POTUS Honors LGBT Pride Month by Not Supporting Same Sex Marriage, While Cheney Disagrees

I don’t believe Obama on this. He could easily end the prosecution of gay and lesbian military personnel without changing the law. And as for his “civil unions” … if civil unions are as good as marriage why not propose civil unions for everyone?

The spin from you Tapper has me dizzy.
Cheney was an elected official for EIGHT YEARS and did nothing to convince President Bush to repeal DADT or anything close. I don’t remember any inspiring speeches on his views re: gay marriage. I guess being free from accountability now has got his lips loose, and you all in the media are eating it up. You’re all willing pawns.
This media food fight you all have is great for your locker room banter that we witness during press conferences, but it’s not going to help ONE gay person looking for justice. You’re playing politics with people’s lives.
Nasty.

This shows the difference between a conservative and a liberal. Conservatives believe the people should be free to decide on issues themselves while liberals believe that whatever they want should be rammed down everyone elses throat. If that takes a judges decision so be it!

For half a second I really wondered if he’d fight for people like me, like the GLBT community.
Then I saw all of this and remembered what I said so many times during the election.
“I vote for the candidate I’d rather protest against.”
As the days go by Mr. President, I find I have less hope because of your silence and inaction. I find it harder to be proud of this country, and I find moving to certain places overseas Europe to be more appealing and deserving of my patriotism. I find it hard not to feel ashamed of the willful ignorance American people, and worse, I find it hard to ignore people who are proud of being hateful, bigoted or ignorant. I can’t help but lump you Mr. President, into the category of people who are just waiting for the 18,000 couples who will get to stay married in CA to die, so that their love and commitments can be forgotten.
I lump my president into the category of people who want to oppress me, keep me in a separate class of people, and pretend I don’t exist. This is almost worse than if you attacked me, physically, to my face, because at least then I would know fully and completely that I should run away, and that America is an evil nation that lies when they say claim they want equality for all. As it stands, I don’t know how to feel about the country of my birth and the man we have chosen to lead us, and this makes me very sad and very anxious.

On the state level, let states change wording from marriage to union and identify what will defines a union. Committed union between one man/one woman, one man/one man or one woman/one woman. Then let the individual religious institutions decide who they marry. Thus religion and government will be separated. Could it work? I think it could. To clarify, I am a Republican who believes in state’s rights and personal liberty.

When Obama took his oath of office both times, he was not including all Americans, only the people he agreed with, approved or accepted, just like the rest of the tyrannical majority. If he was actually for unconditional constitutional equality, the Second Amendment right to join a well organized militia would be upheld. The right to freedom of association guaranteed in the First Amendment would be upheld. The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment rights to life, liberty, property and constitutional equality would be upheld. But American rule of law is based not on unconditional equality but on the tyrannical majority rules for those they approve of, agree with and accept, and rules for those they do not. Until that changes, gay and lesbian Americans will never have equal rights under any administration. Prop Hate was passed by Obama supporters. Heterosupremacists are of every color and political preference.

When Obama took his oath of office both times, he was not including all Americans, only the people he agreed with, approved or accepted, just like the rest of the tyrannical majority. If he was actually for unconditional constitutional equality, the Second Amendment right to join a well organized militia would be upheld. The right to freedom of association guaranteed in the First Amendment would be upheld. The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment rights to life, liberty, property and constitutional equality would be upheld. But American rule of law is based not on unconditional equality but on the tyrannical majority rules for those they approve of, agree with and accept, and rules for those they do not. Until that changes, gay and lesbian Americans will never have equal rights under any administration. Prop Hate was passed by Obama supporters. Heterosupremacists are of every color and political preference.

Obama has been rapidly losing the support of the GLBT community. He was all promises and “change” when he was campaigning, and has been all Rick Warren since being elected.
It would be nice if he actually did something to help overturn DADT and DOMA but just issuing proclamations doesn’t please anyone.

Wait…ABC News… and…you’re sane!?
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
Great piece… You give me a little hope…

I don’t think Obama is the first President to appoint an openly gay person to office regardless of his claims.

Cheney is a Statesman.
Obama is a Statist.

Patience patience. Lincoln couldn’t come out completely against slavery right away. He knew he had to wait until the time was just right. I’m thinking that sometime early in his second term Obama will make his move on this.

Gosh, wrong again. President Obama according to Tapper and the posters here seems to flawed or wrong on every single issue! Astounding . . .

Oh yeah white homosexuals benifited from the privilges of the white american male whole heartly and did not go thur half as african americans have to endure and the differences is they were not trying to marry the same-sex, they were doing something a little rightious and solid not just trying to be seen and yes there where whites against this .

loflyer – is that a Senate-confirmed position? I don’t think it is, and that’s what Obama specified.
Hmm, someone bashing Obama when in fact they are mistaken. Gee, imagine that.

Actually both sides are forgetting one important fact here. In this country, all marriages are civil unions no matter who performs the ceremony. You need a license to marry in the United States in every state in the union. As such, that makes marriage a matter of a legal contract which should not be proscribed by the religious faith of one group or another.

“Hmm, someone bashing Obama when in fact they are mistaken. Gee, imagine that.”
And we all know Obama-supporters are never, ever wrong when they bash people are they?

is that a Senate-confirmed position? I don’t think it is, and that’s what Obama specified.
Yes it was a Senate confirmed position, happy now?

“Patience patience. Lincoln couldn’t come out completely against slavery right away. He knew he had to wait until the time was just right. I’m thinking that sometime early in his second term Obama will make his move on this”
And you need to open a history book genius. Lincoln came out against history years before he was elected president. Ever heard of the Lincoln-Douglas debates? Why do you think the Confederate States seceded when he was elected? Because his anti-slavery views were so well known.

I have to say loflyer appears to be right on Roberta Achtenberg . . .
Whether she is right that President Obama is ‘lying’ or whether his researchers just plain got it wrong is a different question.

“I am very impressed with the new progressive agenda of the formerly homophobic,..demanding
immediate and unconditional equal rights for ‘gay’ Americans”
Are you as impressed with the suppposedly “progressive” politicians saying one thing during a campaign and then doing the exact opposite when elected?
Probably not, because, as with all Obamatons, you absolutely refuse to criticize the person who is actually in power now and can do something. The only people to blame are the ones long out of office. Barack Obama is not responsible for anything, right?

Cheney says marriage should be left to the states “as it always has been”.
Ummm, didn’t the supreme court intervene on interracial marriages??

Look, many (not all) socialist people initially support homosexuals or other categories because the most fundamental institution that needs to be eliminated is the family (or at least as traditionally defined). “Dear Leader” or “Father” cannot be around when there are traditional family relationships because those also lends themselves to acceptance of normalcy and traditional community structure. This is why all of Obama’s likely heroes (considering his mentors and college reading) quickly legalized divorce, etc. Only a few people took the destory-family logic to the ultimate level (PolPot and certain African despots) and REALLY forced family division. However, it is important for the LGBTs etc to realize that the issue isn’t about who they are screwing or how they dress but about economics. You are an end. Eventually Stalin, Hitler, etc ends up screwing you also. You are the means to an end. Not that Barak will ever go that far, or ever would mean to, but his goal isnt LGBT, BLT, or whatever- but a certain economic national socialist doctrine, with an anti-Western bent, not seen in some decades. Think Mugabe, Tito, or The Kims without the stylized proclaimations.

Looks like poor Eminem kicked off the celebration early.

Maybe we should ask the Republicans what they think? After all, they will gripe and whine about whichever one he does? On the other hand, maybe they’re too busy celebrating pro-life murders right now.

Amen! Bryan!

” Waking up every morning and reading another group whine a” Most of the whine merchants I’ve seen lately are the same Republicans who were whining about him before the election, and whining before that that they were democrats who would vote for Hillary. Not one of your finest moments guys.

So Republicans are supporting gay marriage now? WAY TO GO REPUBLICANS !!!
As if.

No Comment!!!!!!
Let the whinning continue. The Party of Nay is also the party of whinners. Did I mention any name?

This is an outrage i dear say !!

Ed- I completely agree with your assessment. I am the strongest proponent of protecting and promoting marriage. But it cannot be denied, that LGTB individuals and culture does exist, in many cases they do form pairs, either as an immitation or natural response to their situation, they raise children, either after divorces or pregnancies or adoptions, and that they are no less human beings and deserve a lawful institution that includes them on lawful, rather than denying them on religious, grounds. Even if there is an opinion that every case is a perversion, and not a natural condition, to deny them a respectful term under the law would be like to denying the sale of alcohol to an alcoholic. The law is nothing more than a system for recording history and making contractual arrangements through the definition of terms. I know their contention is that they want to be considered equal with married couples and the contention for married couples is that married culture is an institution with ancient legal history, even setting aside the religious history. Both of these are reasonable enough contentions. I’m not sure that ‘civil union’ is respectful enough in the current environment, but to call a domestic pair of two adults, without reference to male or female a ‘lawful Union’, to call such pairs ‘United’ and ‘espoused’ would be more respectful and would serve to strengthen the republic rather than continue to weaken it. Particular issues could then be addressed using the legal terms ‘Unions’ and ‘Marriages’ to address and debate any differences in the law of localities. I would consider it a sign of an unhealthy republic when there are many Unions and fewer Marriages, but that doesn’t change the fact that these situations exist and we must make the best of that without hurting the individuals so disposed and without hurting the ancient insitution of marriage for those of us who choose it or who are naturally so constituted.

What’s funny is reading all of the nasty comments from individuals against Republicans. You guys are taking a page from the administration’s playbook. DO YOU REALIZE HOW DIVIDED OUR PRESIDENT IS MAKING US RIGHT NOW?? Look, both parties have some good ideas and some bad ideas. I usually play it down the middle, but it really is disheartening to read all of the nastiness coming from the left. Please ask yourself, would you say what you wrote in person.

The perfect time for Obama the “fierce gay advocate” to explain why he once supported gay marriage then flip-flopped.
And why doesn’t he repeal DADT?
He has no courage.

I guess that when he (POTUS) is openly promoting openly gay military leaders that are married to same sex partners..
then, that will be a first…
Cheney… really got out ahead on this.. he is hilarious..
Obama’s worse nightmare…

Time for the President to show some courage and deliver on some of his promises.
I hope Obama is not just another politician…………but things are not looking so good.

Sammy……you think?

I wonder how Obama is going to provide marriage equality through civil unions and not violate the 14th ammendment.

I’m proud of both these men. Equality under the law is the foundation of this country. The separation of church and state has been a rule of law since written by Thomas Jefferson in 1801 in the Danbury letter.