President Obama Ups the Rhetoric on Iran – But Doesn’t Rescind the Invitations to Talk
President Obama amped up his rhetoric about the Iranian government crackdown on protestors Tuesday afternoon, expressing concerns about the death of a young woman who’s become an icon of the protests – Neda Agha-Soltan — but also not indicating any policy shift towards the Islamic Republic.
“The United States and the international community have been appalled and outraged by the threats, the beatings and imprisonments of the last few days,” the president said at the top of his press conference. “I strongly condemn these unjust actions, and I join with the American people in mourning each and every innocent life that is lost.”
The president was non-committal about future steps with the rogue regime, which he has repeatedly suggested should engage in diplomacy with the West.
“We are going to monitor and see how this plays itself out before we make any judgments about how we proceed,” Mr. Obama said. “But to reiterate, there is a path available to Iran in which their sovereignty is respected, their traditions, their culture, their faith is respected, but one in which they are part of a larger community that has responsibilities and operates according to norms and international rules that are universal. “
The president said that “in 2009, no iron fist is strong enough to shut off the world from bearing witness to peaceful protests of justice. Despite the Iranian government’s efforts to expel journalists and isolate itself, powerful images and poignant words have made their way to us through cell phones and computers. “
He paid homage to the “timeless dignity of tens of thousands of Iranians marching in silence” and “people of all ages risk everything to insist that their votes are counted and that their voices are heard. Above all, we’ve seen courageous women stand up to the brutality and threats, and we’ve experienced the searing image of a woman bleeding to death on the streets.”
The latter reference was to Agha-Soltan, about whose death the president later said, “it’s heartbreaking. It’s — it’s heartbreaking. And I think that anybody who sees it knows that there’s something fundamentally unjust about that.”
But while the president said it “it’s important for us to make sure that…we let the Iranian people know that we are watching what’s happening, that they are not alone in this process,” he underlined that “ultimately, though, what’s going to be most important is what happens in Iran. “
The president refused to judge the legitimacy of the elections, saying “we didn’t have international observers on the ground. We can’t say definitively what exactly happened at polling places throughout the country.”
And asked if Iranian diplomats still had standing invitations to US Embassies to celebrate the 4th of July, the president suggested that the invitation remains. “We don’t have formal diplomatic relations with Iran,” he said. “I think that we have said that if Iran chooses a path that abides by international norms and principles, then we are interested in healing some of the wounds of 30 years in terms of U.S.-Iranian relations. But that is a choice that the Iranians are going to have to make.”
The president rebutted charges made by Iranian leaders that US operatives have played a role in fomenting dissent, saying “the United States respects the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic of Iran and is not interfering with Iran’s affairs. …The Iranian people are trying to have a debate about their future…. Some in the Iranian government, in particular, are trying to avoid that debate by accusing the United States and others in the West of instigating protests over the elections. These accusations are patently false. They’re an obvious attempt to distract people from what is truly taking place within Iran’s borders. This tired strategy of using old tensions to scapegoat other countries won’t work anymore in Iran. This is not about the United States or the West; this is about the people of Iran and the future that they — and only they — will choose.”
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Obama’s rhetoric is inversely related to the events in Iran. Under pressure, he gradually amps up his limp rhetoric, while more time passes and the Iranian government gets a tighter grip on those protesting — in otherwords as it seems to be dying down and people are losing their fight, he comes in like he’s some kind of strong heroic figure.
Like the guy who’s full of big talk the next day about how he would have cleaned someone else’s clock the night before…long after he’s safely home and out of actual harm’s way. Lame.
Posted by: paul | June 23, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Paul, you are wrong. You mistake bluster up front for courage. The Iranians are the ones having this fight… and any symbolic intervention by the President will not improve their chances of success.
I was listening to an interview today with an Iranian activist… and he just skewered McCain’s bluster as counter-productive and disingenuous… and ultimately dangerous.
The fact is that we need a direct line to the Iranian leadership now more than ever. The goal here is that the protesters will get their wishes with as little bloodshed as possible. And US State Department is in a very good position to help make this happen.
Posted by: borneo | June 23, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Contrary to the claims of many liberals, at least some of Iran’s anti-government protesters are anxious for Barack Obama to lend American support to their cause. An Iranian student interviewed on CNN’s American Morning on Monday pleaded for the world, and President Obama by name, to become more active in assisting the protests against the Islamic regime in Tehran: “International community….especially, I ask President Barack Obama directly…this government is a huge threat to global peace….We need your help international community. Don’t leave us alone.”
Posted by: jaj | June 23, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Debate?
Since when did debates include killing people who hold opposing views?
Posted by: Sadie | June 23, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Cowboy, shoot first and ask later, diplomacy is finally over…..thank God
Posted by: iraq vet | June 23, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
“Like the guy who’s full of big talk the next day about how he would have cleaned someone else’s clock the night before”
President Bush said Wednesday that American troops under fire in Iraq aren’t about to pull out, and he challenged those tempted to attack U.S. forces, “Bring them on.”
Posted by: Ryan C | June 23, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
The President cannot forsake his resolve to negotiate because his entire policy with Iran rests on it.
If he criticizes the regime too harshly now, they may not hold out a carrot…he is now held hostage to his own policy position.
Posted by: J House | June 23, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
“But Doesn’t Rescind the Invitations to Talk”
Reminds me of the junior high kid who will do anything in order to be liked by the ‘popular’ kids. He throws away any sense of right/wrong in order to gain entrance to the party.
Posted by: Sadie | June 23, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
The President also said this year in his speech in Trinidad, the U.S. would practice a policy of ‘non-interference’ in the affairs of another country.
He is only practicing what he preaches.
Posted by: J House | June 23, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Iranian student activist Ahmad Betebi was sentenced to death by the evil regime in Iran after the student protests of 1999. He was severely tortured for years in the notorious Evin Prison in Iran. Last year Ahmad Batabi arrived safely in the United States.
During a break from prison, Batebi fled Iran traveling through a free Iraq to Austria and finally arriving in Washington DC.
Here is Ahmad Batebi on Obama:
“His (Obama) lack of response will not be regarded lightly. We will watch for how much his response will help the people or the regime. We will know more this week… Obama can hold talks with the regime in Iran if he wants. Is it morally correct for Obama to support the regime? Does he actually believe the people of Iran will appreciate that? The social movement requires support. If the world really wants the advent of terrorism to disappear in the Middle East, if they want peace with the Palestinians and Israel, if they want nuclear techhology to be developed for peaceful things and not nuclear weapons… They only need to support the people of Iran right now. This regime has the most dangerous of ideologies. They’re killing the opposition.
Posted by: jaj | June 23, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
The Iranian regime is expert in the fine art of kidnapping Americans for ransom the last 30 yrs.
It appears they have another one…
The President and his policy position.
Posted by: J House | June 23, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Obama is a walking contradiction. He’s says he doesn’t want to meddle, but continues to partially cave to critics by continue to talk about Iran. If you don’t want to “meddle,” stop talking about Iran.
Personally, I find it abhorent that the President will entertain a dictatorship in America, on our nation’s birthday no less, who just last month killed in cold-blood their own citizens in the streets. Hopefully, flashbacks of Neda dying in the street won’t interfere with his diplomatic efforts. Then again, he doesn’t seem to mind now. Truthfully, I don’t know how he will be able to stand being in the same room with them for a second.
Posted by: Anonymous | June 23, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
“Nico, I know you and all across the Internet, we’ve been seeing a lot of reports coming out of Iran. I know there may actually be questions from people in Iran who are communicating through the Internet. Do you have a question?”
“I wanted to use this opportunity to ask you a question directly from an Iranian.”
Sounds like the President and the HuffPro reporter practiced this in advance.
Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | June 23, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
well Obama and his Buddy Ahmadinjad are invited to participate in the tea party protest planned on July 4th. Obama will teach Ahmadinjad how to say “I won, get over it” and Ahmadinjad will teach Obama how to use the Acorn “community organizers” how to oppress the protesters, so i guess Obama is excited about July 4th!
Posted by: crazy4obama | June 23, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Obama and his cronies/handlers probably are envious of the Mullahocracy and their ability to squelch free speech and criticism of voting fraud. Consider their desire for the mis-named “Fairness Doctrine” and non-prosecution of ACORN thuggery and voting fraud in the recent election.
Posted by: bronc | June 23, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
“President Bush said Wednesday that American troops under fire in Iraq aren’t about to pull out, and he challenged those tempted to attack U.S. forces, “Bring them on.”"
Yeah, and last time I checked Bush was still a complete moron. So by constantly comparing Obama with Bush, is that your way of telling the world that Obama is an idiot also, and that that George Bush is the gold standard by which he should be judged.
I mean, I agree with that, but I’m just surprised that you feel that way.
Posted by: paul | June 23, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
BRONC,
I knew it would happen.
The GOP would start conflating Obama and Ahmedinijad… claiming that OUR election was faked just like the Iranian election.
I cannot believe that AMERICANS would be so quick to disparage our own system of government just because they lost an election. Nevermind that Bush was unpopular and Democratic party identification is up rather significantly. Nope… Obama did not win. The ELECTION was rigged, they claim. And not just rigged, but rigged by someone like Ahmedinajad… someone evil and unamerican.
The implications of this line of thinking are scary… dangerous. And I wish that you’d take these kinds of reckless statements back. Such urgent paranoid fantasies feed the delusions of sick people….
You really should be ashamed of yourself. These kinds of statements transgress dissent or critique… and crossover into militant hysteria.
Posted by: borneo | June 23, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
“Consider their desire for the mis-named “Fairness Doctrine””
Feb: “The Senate approved an amendment Thursday that would outlaw the so-called “Fairness Doctrine,” an off-the-books policy that once required broadcasters to air opposing viewpoints on controversial issues.
Republican Sen. Jim DeMint’s amendment passed by a wide margin of 87-to-11.”
Around that time: “As the president stated during the campaign, he does not believe the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated,” White House spokesman Ben LaBolt told FOXNews.com.”
Posted by: Ryan C | June 23, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“Yeah, and last time I checked Bush was still a complete moron”
If so, one wonders why you cheered him on to the end and defend his policies to this day.
But I do find it hilarious that right wingers think comparing Bush and Obama is an insult to Obama!
Posted by: Ryan C | June 23, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
“If so, one wonders why you cheered him on to the end and defend his policies to this day. ”
Uh, who do you think you’re talking to? I know it’s difficult for all the widdle Democrats and Republicans to deal with, but we Independents are becoming the majority now. Your rote attacks don’t work on us. :(
“But I do find it hilarious that right wingers think comparing Bush and Obama is an insult to Obama! ”
Do they? I’ll take your word on that, as a highly trained partisan operative, you would know all about your opponants on the far right.
I wouldn’t want to be associated with either of them in any way, fyi.
Posted by: paul | June 23, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
“Uh, who do you think you’re talking to? I know it’s difficult for all the widdle Democrats and Republicans to deal with, but we Independents are becoming the majority now”
Yes another independent, who just happens to parrot Rush.
I understand that no one wants to admit being a right wingers these days but have some pride.
Posted by: Ryan C | June 23, 2009, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Obama didn’t “amp up” anything. He’s basically sat on his hands for two weeks, and today he was more critical of the health care industry in this country than he was of the leaders of Iran, and he basically told the Iranian protesters, “You’re on your own”. The only words he’s said of the leaders is words of congratulations to Ahmadinejad even before a recount was demanded by the opposition party.
Geez Louise, it sure doesn’t take long for the sycophant suck-up media to start cleaning up all the messes Obama creates.
Posted by: BigSky | June 23, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
“Uh, who do you think you’re talking to? I know it’s difficult for all the widdle Democrats and Republicans to deal with, but we Independents are becoming the majority now. Your rote attacks don’t work on us. :(”
If you have to whine and cry and claim your a “moderate” or “independent”, it’s because you’re not. Senator Bernie Sanders of VT wears an independent label, but he’ll admit to being a Marxist and he’s not afraid to admit that.
Posted by: BigSky | June 23, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
“Yes another independent, who just happens to parrot Rush. ”
Do they play his show at the Acorn offices? You’d have to tell me what he says, because I don’t listen to the radio.
“I understand that no one wants to admit being a right wingers these days but have some pride. ”
I understand that both parties are running scared because they’re losing their control over the majority of Americans, but please step outside your big ole’ box of denial. The two-party back-and-forth quid pro quo is on its last legs, and you and your buddy Rush will be left in the cold.
Posted by: paul | June 23, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
“I cannot believe that AMERICANS would be so quick to disparage our own system of government just because they lost an election. Nevermind that Bush was unpopular and Democratic party identification is up rather significantly. Nope… Obama did not win. The ELECTION was rigged, they claim. And not just rigged, but rigged by someone like Ahmedinajad… someone evil and unamerican.”
Nobody has claimed the 2008 election in this country was rigged. Who the hell are you kidding?
Posted by: BigSky | June 23, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
“The President also said this year in his speech in Trinidad, the U.S. would practice a policy of ‘non-interference’ in the affairs of another country.”
No he’s not. He’s stated before then that he would negotiate with Iran and it’s leaders. So, in essence, his speech in Trinidad is a departure from his rhetoric on the campaign trail and his speech in Cairo where he’s accused of meddling in the affairs of the Iranian elections, a charge he’s never confirmed or denied.
Posted by: BigSky | June 23, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Big Sky,
Scroll down and read Bronc’s comment. And the one before it. Both are about election fraud by ACORN.
Posted by: borneo | June 23, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
“Nobody has claimed the 2008 election in this country was rigged. Who the hell are you kidding?”
Obama and his cronies/handlers probably are envious of the Mullahocracy and their ability to squelch free speech and criticism of voting fraud. Consider their desire for the mis-named “Fairness Doctrine” and non-prosecution of ACORN thuggery and voting fraud in the recent election.
Posted by: bronc | Jun 23, 2009 3:38:51 PM
Posted by: Ryan C | June 23, 2009, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
“If you have to whine and cry and claim your a “moderate” or “independent”, it’s because you’re not. Senator Bernie Sanders of VT wears an independent label, but he’ll admit to being a Marxist and he’s not afraid to admit that. ”
If you visualize whining and crying when you read that, that would be as a result of you projecting your own personality traits onto others. :(
I’ve been a registered Independent since I was 18. Boo hoo hoo….it makes me so sad to not be in one of the two dying parties….whaaaah
Posted by: paul | June 23, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
At least President Bush had the guts to “calls-’em-as-he-see’s-’em” with regards to Iran. There was no question his posistion on the Iranian regime. They were and are a spoke in the Axis of Evil. Critics be damned, it is what it is.
Posted by: BigSky | June 23, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
“I’ve been a registered Independent since I was 18. Boo hoo hoo….it makes me so sad to not be in one of the two dying parties….whaaaah”
I was born a Conservative, and have been one for nearly forty years, so I have no sympathy for you or either the Republicans or the Democrats. They’re largely indifferent.
Posted by: BigSky | June 23, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
“Nico, I know you and all across the Internet, we’ve been seeing a lot of reports coming out of Iran. I know there may actually be questions from people in Iran who are communicating through the Internet. Do you have a question?”
“I wanted to use this opportunity to ask you a question directly from an Iranian.”
Sounds like the President and the HuffPro reporter practiced this in advance.
Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | Jun 23, 2009 3:28:44 PM
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All politicians will use planted questions from time to time, his problem is he dodged that planted question with a non-answer.
Posted by: BigSky | June 23, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
“Yes another independent, who just happens to parrot Rush.”
LOL, amazing how you seem to know everything Rush Limbaugh says. If the right is dead, and not relevant, why do all you lefties seem to have such an emotional attachment to Limbaugh?
Most of us dont listen to him. I would say based on the hate speech and fanatical obsession here, that more of you lefties listen to him than the “righties”…LOL
Posted by: Mike_C | June 23, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
borneo:”Both are about election fraud by ACORN.”
Since the most recent guilty verdict for election fraud was Mark Jacoby, the owner of Young Political Majors who headed up the California REPUBLICAN Party’s 2008 voter registration efforts, the absurd noise making about ACORN has gone from an annoying exageration to just flat out funny.
Posted by: jhw539 | June 23, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
BigSky:”At least President Bush had the guts to “calls-’em-as-he-see’s-’em” with regards to Iran. There was no question his posistion on the Iranian regime.”
A position widely credited with hurting the 2003 protests and revolts in Iran (if you recall, no members of the establishment dared join the protesters that time after the evil West so eagerly climbed on their backs).
Posted by: jhw539 | June 23, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
“LOL, amazing how you seem to know everything Rush Limbaugh says. If the right is dead, and not relevant, why do all you lefties seem to have such an emotional attachment to Limbaugh?”
Its an educated guess.
Since right wingers are such lemmings who need to be told what to be angry about, claiming they heard it from Rush or Hannity or FoxNews and you have an excellent chance of being correct.
Posted by: Ryan C | June 23, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
“A position widely credited with hurting the 2003 protests and revolts in Iran”
“TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) — Members of parliament in Iran, including many reformists, have condemned a statement made by U.S. President George Bush last week in support of the anti-government demonstrations.
“The recent position of the White House and … the statement [by] the U.S. president is a clear interference in the internal affairs of Iran,” said a statement signed by 217parliamentarians — a vast majority in the 273 member reformist-dominated parliament.”
Posted by: Ryan C | June 23, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Obama said: “The United States respects the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic of Iran”.
Who ever knew Obama was an insensitive person who would befriend fundamentalists above human rights. In the name of human rights Carter asked a US ally the shah to leave and now the tyrants he was replaced by not only have our blessing… but have earned our respect. I think it would be factually correct to say the USA is betraying Freedom in Iran.
Posted by: Alex S | June 23, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
“How many teenage girls do the holocaust deniers have to kill before Obama no longer wants to have high tea with them?”
Obama doesn’t want to have tea with them now, but he has to negotiate with them about ending their nuclear development. Of course right-wingers will probably say that we should just cut off relations with Iran and attack them instead. But considering how few of them volunteered to go fight the last war they started I think we should ignore them this time.
Posted by: Skip | June 23, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
I was disgusted by this President’s casual speech about the atrocities in Iran. I’ve heard more passion when he talks about basketball!! WTG, Obummer!
Posted by: Sunnyr | June 23, 2009, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
“Since right wingers are such lemmings who need to be told what to be angry about, claiming they heard it from Rush or Hannity or FoxNews and you have an excellent chance of being correct.”
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The hate spammers are very easy to see. They use juvenile name calling as a tactic and will often times reference Limbaugh, Gingrich, Hannity, and Fox News.
Posted by: Ms Trish | June 23, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Mr. Obama be smart don’t let them set you up with this Iran issue, stay out of it and let Iran handle their mess.
There are forces out there that want to set you up for the fall so beware.
Posted by: SJ | June 23, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
President Obama’s foreign policy aka
Blah, Blah, Blah continues!
Yielding No Positive Results for the
U.S.!
But he did sign an anti-tobacco bill.
Then again he hasn’t quit smoking.
No inconsistency here.
This guy makes Jimmy Carter look good!
Posted by: reaganfan | June 23, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Obama is very unhappy. He does not like that the Iranian people want to throw off their oppressors. Their heroic struggle takes him out of the limelight and shows him clearly for all to see — all over the world — as an enemy of freedom.
Folks, an armed-to-the-teeth enemy of freedom sits in the White House.
Are you sleeping well at night knowing that he resents that his lack of hope, lack of leadership, lack of common decency, and lack of any sense of American responsibility to the world has been exposed?
Posted by: tanarg | June 24, 2009, 2:47 am 2:47 am
I dunno…several of our Presidents on both sides of the aisle have been pretty wimpy when it came to other similar situations, especially the Budapest and Prague uprisings.
We sacrifice tens of thousands of our citizens in wars fighting oppression, but often won’t just say a few words against it because of politics.
That doesn’t excuse Barry any more than his do-nothing predecessors though.
Posted by: Red Leg | June 24, 2009, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Go to American Thinker and read The little president who wasn’t there By James Lewis.
Posted by: tanarg | June 24, 2009, 4:02 am 4:02 am