By Gorman Gorman

Jun 19, 2009 8:17am

The Note, 6/19/2009: Price Tags: Health care costs rise — for the president, too

ABC News’ RICK KLEIN reports: It's been an expensive week — and we're not just talking health care.This has been the start of something huge — though it also may have been the beginning of the end of something that might have been even bigger.The hard part has certainly begun. Surprise: Health care is expensive. The ways to pay for it are unpopular. The nation is essentially broke. People tend to like their health insurance. Congressional action is achingly slow.(And might President Obama have done too good a job convincing people that fiscal responsibility matters? Did he want the public to actually take his message to heart at the moment that he's seeking to spend $1 trillion-plus on health care?)A new House draft of health care reform out Friday will be another target for critics. As for the Senate — tune in again next month.At the current rate, the latest salvo from the president may not require a response: "For those who simply criticize without offering new ideas of their own, I have to ask — what's your answer?" Obama said last night at a party fundraising dinner, per ABC's Sunlen Miller. "Don't tell me that we're going to tinker around the edges and that nothing's going to change." (What if both of those things happen? Who takes the biggest political hit if health care reform doesn't do it all?)"It's so predictable," the president said of the criticism. It's time for some of that patented Obama cool. This president and this White House are often at their best when the swirl of conventional wisdom tells them that they're stumbling.Yet this is more than straw men and caricatures: "President Obama's hopes for quick action on comprehensive health-care reform ran headlong this week into the realities of Congress, as lawmakers searching for the money to pay for a broad expansion of coverage discovered that it wasn't easy to find and descended into partisan — and intraparty — bickering," Ceci Connolly writes in The Washington Post. "In a high-level meeting at the White House yesterday, Obama conveyed his concern over early pronouncements by the Congressional Budget Office that a bill drafted by the Senate health committee would cover just 16 million additional people at a cost of $1 trillion, said one official with knowledge of the session who was not permitted to talk to reporters and so spoke on the condition of anonymity," Connolly writes."That is not his idea of good, affordable, universal coverage," said this adviser. (Well, what is it, then?)(Delay: "House Democratic leaders, meanwhile, said they will wait until next month to unveil plans for financing their bill," Connolly writes. DeLay? "My goal is not bipartisanship," said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.)Among the president's many obstacles: The path toward fiscal restraint is also the path toward incrementalism.As long as this is about spending, can it be about anything else?"The solid armor of President Barack Obama's popularity may have a crack — a nearly $2 trillion-sized one," the AP's Jennifer Loven and Liz Sidoti report. "There's continued and considerable public restiveness over eye-popping federal budget deficits, a potential danger for both Obama's ambitious agenda and his political fortunes. . . . Obama has greatly expanded the government's reach — and, polls say, stoked people's concerns." Cue the cost-cutting: "The high cost of securing health insurance for all Americans, the top domestic priority of President Obama, has Congressional Democrats scrambling to scale back their proposals or find ways to trim tens of billions of dollars a year from existing health programs," Robert Pear writes in The New York Times. Do they want to wake up seniors in this fight?"A key Senate committee, pressed to find ways to pay for a health-care expansion, is considering cuts in Medicare that would kick in automatically if other efforts to trim spending in the program fail," Laura Meckler and Greg Hitt write for The Wall Street Journal. "In the past, Congress has been reluctant to make politically difficult cuts to Medicare spending due to protests from industry and patients." Wasn't the idea to cover more people? "U.S. senators seeking to lower the price tag of a health-care overhaul below a $1.6 trillion estimate are cutting back proposed subsidies to help low-income Americans buy insurance," Bloomberg's Laura Litvan and Ryan Donmoyer report."Sources say that it's a major scale-back of the outline they had before," The Washington Post's Ezra Klein reports on the Senate Finance Committee draft. "Specifically, subsidies have dropped from 400 percent of the poverty line to 300 percent. Medicaid eligibility has been tightened to 133 percent of poverty for children and pregnant women and 100 percent of poverty for parents and childless adults." Is the public option done already? "A draft proposal in the Senate to overhaul the nation's health-care system would require most people to buy health insurance, authorize an expansion of Medicaid coverage and create consumer-owned cooperative plans instead of the government coverage that President Obama is seeking," Lori Montgomery and Shailagh Murray write in The Washington Post. Nobody told House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: "We will have a public option in the House that will be real. If it's not real, it's no use doing. And if we don't do a public option, I'm not sure we have as effective a public health care reform as we wish," said Pelosi, D-Calif., per ABC's Dean Norland. House Ways and Means Democrats are looking to release their draft Friday — but will any of this help the politics along? "House Democrats have lots of potential targets for higher taxes as they aim to expand health care coverage, from wealthy Americans and the nation's employers to anyone who pops the top on a soft drink," the AP's Erica Werner reports. "Also under consideration are higher alcohol taxes, increases to the Medicare payroll tax and a value-added tax, a sort of national sales tax, of up to 1.5 percent or more.A victory lap (almost) from The Wall Street Journal editorial page: "This was supposed to be a red-letter week for national health care, as Democrats started the process of hustling a quarter-baked bill through Congress to reorganize one-sixth of the economy on a partisan vote. Instead it was a fiasco." Chins up in the White House (but seriously?): "In their heart of hearts, few in the Obama administration would have predicted late last year that they would be this well positioned by June to achieve a major victory on health care," Kevin Sack writes in The New York Times. New from the ad wars: Health Care for America is launching a $1.1 million television advertising campaign aimed at senators in 10 states: Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, and Washington. Says the ad: "You'd have health care between you and your doctor — that's the president's plan. Keep the coverage you have now. Or choose from a range of plans — including a public health insurance option to lower costs and keep insurance companies honest." New pressure coming Friday on Iran: Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., is teaming up with House Foreign Affairs Chairman Howard Berman, D-Calif., to force a vote on a resolution in support of the Iranian dissidents."Both Pence and Berman had expressed concern and admiration for the supporters of Mir Hussein Moussavi, who was defeated by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in an election on June 12 that many international observers worry was illegitimate," Roll Call's Jackie Kucinich writes. "The non-binding bill, the subject of day-long talks, is meant to nudge the Obama administration towards a tougher position without being so harsh it drives a new wedge between Washington and Teheran," Politico's Glenn Thrush reports. Some rhetorical back-up, from Charles Krauthammer: "Where is our president? Afraid of ‘meddling.' Afraid to take sides between the head-breaking, women-shackling exporters of terror — and the people in the street yearning to breathe free. This from a president who fancies himself the restorer of America's moral standing in the world." Is that tougher position the right one? Peggy Noonan thinks not: "John McCain and others went quite crazy insisting President Obama declare whose side America was on, as if the world doesn't know whose side America is on," Noonan writes in her Wall Street Journal column. "This was Aggressive Political Solipsism at work: Always exploit events to show you love freedom more than the other guy, always make someone else's delicate drama your excuse for a thumping curtain speech." Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., has Obama's back: More involvement in Iran's election means "more of an excuse to make America the target and America the excuse for their actions," Kerry said, per The Boston Globe's Joe Williams. On financial reform — is the president doing enough?"Mr. Obama has a clear vision of what went wrong, but aside from regulating shadow banking — no small thing, to be sure — his plan basically punts on the question of how to keep it from happening all over again, pushing the hard decisions off to future regulators," Paul Krugman writes in his New York Times column. "To live up to its own analysis, the Obama administration needs to come down harder on the rating agencies and, even more important, get much more specific about reforming the way bankers are paid." Arianna Huffington: "In just a few months, we've gone from saving the banks in order to save the economy to just saving the banks. It's the opposite of mission creep," she writes. "The larger problem continues to be the administration's habit of conflating the health of the Wall Street economy with the health of the real economy — when, in fact, the two economies have become decoupled." Steven Pearlstein: "By deciding to contort and trim their proposal to accommodate the objections from powerful interest groups and key members of Congress, members of the Obama team have now made it politically acceptable for everyone to treat this as just another special-interest free-for-all of the sort that helped cause the crisis in the first place," he writes in his Washington Post column. Uniting critics on left and right: "President Obama's plan to increase the authority of the Federal Reserve is emerging as a major stumbling block to congressional approval of his overhaul of financial industry regulations," Jim Puzzanghera reports in the Los Angeles Times. From the annals of oversight — new pressure over TARP watchdogs: "The lone sitting Republican member of Congress on the Congressional Oversight Panel [Thursday night] dubbed the Treasury Department's challenge of the independence of bailout watchdog Neil Barofsky ‘outrageous,' ‘unprecedented,' and ‘disturbing,' and he called on the Panel to launch an immediate investigation," ABC's Matthew Jaffe reports. "It's highly outrageous and highly irregular and we are going to get to the bottom of it," Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, told Jaffe.The gripe: "Officials of the Treasury Department admitted late Thursday that they have asked the Justice Department to weigh in on how much power they have over the Special Inspector General for the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program," ABC's Jake Tapper and Matthew Jaffe report. Remember when the big fight was going to be over cap-and-trade? Time for a new label, already: "Democrats like to talk about green jobs and cap-and-trade. A new strategy memo says they need to ditch those phrases, play down global warming and fight back on what their plans will cost Americans if they want to prevail in the high-stakes energy debate about to erupt on Capitol Hill," Jill Lawrence reports for Politics Daily. The latest "This Week" spotlight profile: Education Secretary Arne Duncan. "The tremendous challenge and opportunity is to use these resources to drive change and drive reform in ways that will live for decades long beyond when the last dollar's been spent," Duncan tells ABC's Jennifer Parker. Coming Sunday on "This Week": Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S. C., debating foreign relations, banking, and health care. The roundtable: George Will, Cokie Roberts, Sam Donaldson, Robert Reich, and Bill Keller of The New York Times. ABC is soliciting questions for next week's health care forum — partnering with Digg.com. Tweet your way through the Radio and Television Correspondents Dinner Friday night. Your hashtag, per Ana Marie Cox: #nerdprom2The Kicker:"Thank you for calling me ‘senator' and not ‘sir.' " — Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in a dig at Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., on "Hannity." "Here I am shooting hoops again. And it's because of him. If I ever have an opportunity to play with him, I want to be able to halfway get around that court well enough." — Rep. Baron Hill, D-Ind., admitting that he's brushing up his hoops game in the hopes of a hardwood meeting with the president.

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User Comments

Pelosi is either stupid or she is posturing again for political purposes. She knows full well that if the government gets into the health care business it’s only a matter of time before the private sector goes the way of the dinosaurs. Good or bad, that’s what will happen. But that’s what she’s always been comfortable with; a nanny state. That’s it Nancy, try to appear inclusive. Nothing to lose on this one huh sweetie.

Posted by: LongT | June 19, 2009, 8:36 am 8:36 am

Congress is a privileged elite. They have an excellent public plan of health insurance for themselves and their families. But they believe ordinary people, the peons below them, should settle for less.
In regard to the middle class, the health care solution in simple–let us buy into what congress already has and then deal with the rest of the problems from there.

Posted by: JAB | June 19, 2009, 8:41 am 8:41 am

I don’t care for Pelosi, but that’s a moot point. My argument is that if there is no public plan, the private insurers can not be held in check. As late as this week they have warned everyone of another large double digit (for employees) raise in premiums. That will make it 27% over the last three years. Where’s the incentive for them to stop? The U.S. Post Office still competes with FED EX and UPS and have not even come close to driving them out of business. And you can’t argue that that is because the USPS is so inefficient, they are unable to drive the competition out because they are still competitive. This may all be moot because within a few years there may be 200 million uninsured and only the rich and priviledged will be able to afford private coverage.

Posted by: CitizenMikeM | June 19, 2009, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Lets try the new health plan, that the President and Democrates have in mind, in a pilot program with federal employees for a year. The President, Congress, Supreme Court will have to part of this, no exclusions. Then we, the average Americans will have some actual data to base our yes or no on.

Posted by: afloatinasea | June 19, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am

This is such a crock, if they really want to pay for this they need to cut out all the BS spending on illegal aliens. Congress don’t care about the people that they work for, they have the best insurance possible. That’s not even counting the 1.6 trillion to cover only about 33% of the uninsured. I busted my ass getting to the posistion I am in now, and we should have to pay for this. Maybe the goverment should stop meddeling in private business and stick to running the country into the ground

Posted by: Steve | June 19, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am

It all comes down to how do you pay for the people who dont have insurance. It would be great to be able to do this but the reality is always “money” or lack of. Where did Obama think this “money” was going to come from??? Until you get medical cost under control “tort reform” you do not have a chance of sucess for Health Care. Obama told the AMA he was aginst medical mal pratice caps and that was the end of his health care plan.

Posted by: billy bob | June 19, 2009, 9:32 am 9:32 am

We have roughly 300 million Americans. The claim is that there are 45 million — 15% — with no health insurance. This leaves approximately 255 million Americans, or 85%, with health insurance.
According to a 2006 ABC News-Kaiser Family Foundation-USA Today survey. It was found that 89% of Americans were satisfied with the quality of their own health care.
Don’t need a public option, the federal government needs to demonstrate to the public that they can sucessfully operate Medicare which they never have in all of the years they have been funding it. Once this is shown and we can get an idea of the true cost (I don’t believe it is anywhere near what the folks in Congress are telling us, way higher) then a informed decision can be made.

Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | June 19, 2009, 9:52 am 9:52 am

A national health care plan will shift the cost of health care off of our nation’s businesses and onto the government. When they talk about a $1 trillion price tag, they also need to talk about how that will free our country’s businesses from paying a $2 trillion bill (that comes out of your paycheck and our export competitiveness). Every other first world nation has a health care system that works, spends half as much per person (or less), and results in equal or longer life expectancies (and nationalize health care is not keeping people alive an extra year on machines to pad the stat). There is a reason even WalMart wants to see health care reform.

Posted by: jhw539 | June 19, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am

LETS WAKE UP AMERICA. THIS HEALTHCARE IS ANOTHER WAY FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO GET BIGGER AND CONTROL MORE OF OUR LIVES. THEY CONTROL WALL STREET, THE BANKS, AND THE CAR COMPANIES. THEY WANT TO CONTROL OUR HEALTHCARE, ENERGY, THE MEDIA AND OUR GUNS. THIS IS COMMUNISM. EVEN THE RUSSIANS CANNOT BELEIVE WHAT AMERICA IS DOING. SOME IN THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT ARE WARNING US NOT TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD. PLEASE WAKE UP AMERICA. WE HAVE TO STOP THIS OUT OF CONTROL POWER HUNGRY GOVERNMENT. OUR COUNTRY IS SLIPPING AWAY SOON IT WILL BE TO LATE. DO YOU NOT WANT TO BE FREE. I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND FREEDOMS. OUR TAXES WILL GO WAY UP. OUR ENERGY BILL WILL GO WAY UP. WE ARE TURNING INTO EUROPE AND RUSSIA. PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES. LEARN ABOUT OUR HISTORY AND HOW OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE FREE. THE MEDIA IS TOTALLY IN BED WITH THE GOVERNMENT. THEY KNOW WERE THE MONEY AND POWER IS. GE IS IN BED WITH OUR GOVERNMENT. THEY WILL MAKE BILLIONS OFF OF THIS GOVERNMENT. IT IS ALL MONEY AND POWER AND NOT THE PEOPLE ANYMORE.

Posted by: Sherri Khan | June 19, 2009, 10:18 am 10:18 am

“if the government gets into the health care business it’s only a matter of time before the private sector goes the way of the dinosaurs” – America has lower life expectancies and a higher infant death rate than any technologically advanced country and we pay more per capita. If our current system goes the way of the dinosaurs its bacause it is a 19th century system trying to meet 21st century problems.

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | June 19, 2009, 10:20 am 10:20 am

47 million uninsured, that’s what they tell us. I would like a breakdown of just who those 47 million people are. Are there an estimated 10 million illegal aliens in that number, as I have heard? Are there another 17 million who have access to health insurance but choose to opt out and play Russion roulette with their health so they can spend their money on other things that the rest of us put on hold to protect our families? Let’s be honest with the number of people who really can’t afford insurance first, shall we, and go on from there.

Posted by: babs | June 19, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am

if they pass this health care…watch your wallets and watch inflation increase up to 50%….we are in trouble with this democRAT congress and president,,,,this is the carter administration only tripled inflation coming…BEWARE

Posted by: frquarter | June 19, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

The Republican Health Care Plan? I contributed to it this morning. I put pocket change in a can at the corner store. Great natiion! This is a common scene in America. Thank you Republican for the feree oportunity to place my public assistance can for health care for my children.

Posted by: T-bone from Kentucky | June 19, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am

It’s good that we’re letting the Iranians sort out what kind of leadership they will have. Every nation should be allowed to settle their own border disputes, have their own revolutions, and hold elections. Our nation has interfered with the internal operations of other nations too long. As for healthcare reform, I say not at a price of one trillion dollars or more. Instead we should impose a fat tax on all Americans to fund medical care for indigents, encourage improvement of the public’s overall health and fund the treatment of ailments not related to self destructive eating and slothfulness. Reinstating a program of exercise in our school systems would be most helpful in reducing the incidence of obesity. We should legalize, control and tax marijuana sales to help fund healthcare. Tort reform is essential to reduction of healthcare expenses. If we use the trillion dollars proposed to be used to fund national healthcare reform to purge our nation of its illegal residents there will be minimal need for healthcare reform. The long term escalating expense of healthcare would be likewise thwarted if our population growth is brought unde control. The growth is from the immigrant sector of our population. Traditional American families aren’t proliferating their numbers like the illegal immigrant population. No prejudice. Just facts.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | June 19, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am

afloatinasea:”Lets try the new health plan, that the President and Democrates have in mind, in a pilot program with federal employees for a year. The President, Congress, Supreme Court will have to part of this, no exclusions. Then we, the average Americans will have some actual data to base our yes or no on. ”
Uh, they ALREADY ARE on the government healthcare plan. You are advocating the earliest idea Obama floated, which was indeed to simply open up membership in this plan to everyone. This IS the “socialist” public plan that Republicans are bitterly opposed to.

Posted by: jhw539 | June 19, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Steve:”This is such a crock, if they really want to pay for this they need to cut out all the BS spending on illegal aliens.”
That’s nonsense. Unless you’re talking about eliminating the costs of immigration enforcement and border control, “all the BS spending on illegal aliens” covers just a fraction of the cost of health care.

Posted by: jhw539 | June 19, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am

jhw539 – You said “Uh, they ALREADY ARE on the government healthcare plan. You are advocating the earliest idea Obama floated, which was indeed to simply open up membership in this plan to everyone. This IS the “socialist” public plan that Republicans are bitterly opposed to.”
This is not true, all federal employees (including Congress since passage of the Civil Service Reform Act of 1983) are covered under the Federal Employees Health Benefits (FEHB) which is not one plan but access to several different plans from which they can choose. All of these plans are private plans not a government plan. The government’s involvement in these plans is negotiate the benefits and cost for covered employees, this means in some cases that some plans are dropped for several reasons (cost, benefits, etc.) and new plans are added. The plans run from basic coverage and on up, the employee makes the decision as to which plan they desire based on benefits and cost of the plan. The government pays a portion of the premium for the employee just like many employers as part of the benefit package used to entice the employee to work for them. If you desire information of the plans available just Google FEHB.

Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | June 19, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am

So Congress wants to put the Nation in more debt by up to 1.6 trillion dollars or more, cut Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement to hospitals and providers by over 400 billion AND raise another 700 billion in taxes in order to put through a government run health care plan which will destroy our current health care system? All so only a fraction of the 15% of the uninsured population can have free health insurance. Sounds like a really great idea! To heck with the other 85% Congress has exempted itself from the plan but the rest of us will be forced to fall in line with socialized medicine like the failed Medicaid which is causing States like New York and California to go bankrupt.
Meanwhile the government run plan will outbid and thus drive private care out of the market entirely. Then EVERYONE will have coverage but fewer doctors to take care of the millions of additional people being forced into a plan by the government because without any “skin in the game” aka profit, the doctors will just leave the game or bail out due to pure exhaustion.
It”ll be so great. Shortages of providers, long long waiting lists, cuts in basic care, denials of basic care, preventative care and medicines. Life and death decisions on who gets what health care will be made by government bureaucrats based on political favoritism and who the government deems of “worth” to society. Sounds like hell to me.
A few questions Congress should be asking before going forward with another failed government run program that will raise the deficit and taxes all so only a fraction of the uninsured can be covered:
The CBO has determined that the government option is going to result in 1 to 3 trillion dollars of extra debt yet only cover a third of the uninsured. Is this an acceptable price to pay for so little return?
A lot of economists are saying that the higher deficits that this plan represents will cause inflation to rise making the dollar worth half its current value. Is this ok with you?
Many are predicting that there will be a shortage of doctors available to meet the rising demands of millions of more people who would be insured under the plan and that some physicians will retire rather than receive the lower compensation this plan calls for to pay for their services. Is this ok with you?
Will your plan result in the government rationing of health care for start of life, end of life, and chronic medical conditions?
Another government run health care plan, Medicaid, is causing States like New York and California to go broke, how do you plan to prevent another even bigger government health care plan from bankrupting America?

Posted by: Henry | June 19, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

WELCOME TO GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE. It has been reported that the government run Veterans Admin healthcare facilities have not been cleaning the tubes used in colonoscopies from patient to patient since 2003. What that means is that after Patient “A” received a coloscopy, unsuspecting Patient “B” was infected with what ever disease Patient “A” had. At this point , over 10,000 patients have been potentially exposed to HIV, Hepatitis, etc. As of last week, 6 patients have been diagnosed with HIV, 34 with Heapatitis C, and 13 with Hepatitis B. A recent audit found that 57% of the 153 VA healthcare facilites did not have standard operating procedures. IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE GOVERNMENT WILL RUN OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, SIMPLY LOOK AT THE HEALTHCARE PROGRAMS THEY ALREADY RUN…

Posted by: DoctorBID | June 19, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

How do the Democrats plan on paying for this cradle to grave dependency they plan for us. SS is facing shorfalls, medicare is broke, education is a bottomles pit, now state health care. The only way out is to flood the country with a billion people then we can live like China. We all have to strt thinking past the now and into the future. We do not DESERVE to spend our childrens future prosperity as much as we’d like to thinkwe do.

Posted by: Gregory | June 19, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

The only thing the government can run is their collective mouths.(except Biden) Other then that they can’t run anything correctly. The choice between Gov. health care and a veterinarian I’ll take the Vet.

Posted by: hkdakota | June 19, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Just talk to a Canadian if you want to see our future. There system is terrible and the good doctors have either retired or left the country. The Canadins I talked to all said you wait in long lines (sometimes all day) to see a doctor who really does not care about his job. They also say if you are really ill, go to the United States.

Posted by: billy bob | June 19, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Stop illegal aliens for all kinds of reasons, safety, breaking the law and thinking we owe them everything, medicaid, insurance, licenses, jobs,and transporting drugs, etc. They should all come the lawful way.
Stop all the illegal immigration. Then work on the health care problem.
I think first things first.

Posted by: jdeldin | June 19, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Dear sir:
For those of us who are Progressives, Obama, thus far receives a C- grade. If he wants to gain an A, he must heavily Tax the outsourcing American Publicly Traded Companies, bail out the poor with job creation at the lower to middle income levels, Nullify the Patriot Act, the Military Commission’s Act of 2006, stops Big Pharma’s from public advertising, give Lawyers more leeway to bring PI cases into Federal courts, Cap oil as did Jimmy Carter, and add a retroactive $1.3 trillion Windfall Profits tax, and then do as did FDR and RECOVER 80% of war profiteering contractors No-Bid Contracts, Prosecute the Bush Cheney war crimes and if convicted exile them both and their followers.
Gas prices are again rising to double what they were when Obama took office and he doesn’t even mention them, and though I voted for him, I and most of my colleagues are unhappy so far with his lack of momentum for the working classes.
America needs Jobs and the Avarice/greed loaded Outsourcing Criminals, they, the Outsourcers are subtle traitors to our nation and they MUST be taxed.
MY ADVICE IN HEALTH CARE, IS NOT TO use Insurance Companies for Health care. I have a cheaper ROAD, by trillion$.

Posted by: PROFESSOREMERITUS PETE BAGNOLO | June 19, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Look at how great the IRS, the Post Office, Congress, FDA, the Veterans Administration, and other Federal Government agencies run and their efficiency, and then imagine a Government health plan run by people who can’t run anything, and then figure if you want a Government health plan. A health plan needs private doctors, and how does Obama and Congress expect to get doctors to work for far less than they get now, especially if tort reform isn’t passed to lessen insurance costs to doctors. Of course, the Congress will expempt government plan doctors from lawsuits just as it exempts itself from the plans and legals costs available to us peons. We are just sources of money for the Democrats and Obama. What will happen when no industries and small businesses offer health plans and the only plans are Government plans? If you love the IRS, then you will fall head over heals with Obamacare. If you want to know the future, look at how California is going bankrupt with illegals and other state plans and taxes. Isn’t that Pelosi country? If you love bankruptcy, you’ll love the Obama and Pelosi world we are being forced into. Bill in Knoxville

Posted by: Bill in Knoxville | June 19, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

The AP’s Jennifer Loven and Liz Sidoti: “There’s continued and considerable public restiveness over eye-popping federal budget deficits”.
Someone should tell the AP’s Jennifer Loven and Liz Sidoti that there is also considerable public restiveness in support of the public option being part of health care reform as this very recent poll shows….
NBC/Wall Street Journal Survey
“In any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance––extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?”
Extremely important – 41%
Quite important – 35%
Not that important – 12%
Not at all important – 8%
Not sure – 4%

Posted by: Glenn | June 19, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Gregory: the government already has started to pay for the healthcare tru taxes, on everything thats bad for you.
But remember that Pres. Obama said 95% will have their taxers reduced. ($13.00)

Posted by: Lizzie | June 19, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

“Sounds like hell to me.” – No, hell is working for company for 20 years, getting laid off with no job and no insurance. It is paying premiums for decades and getting dropped by your insurer as soon as you get really sick because you can’t work to pay any more. Hell is having a child who is diagnosed with cancer and not being able to get insurance because of a pre-existing condition. Walk a mile in those shoes and you will know what real suffering is.

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | June 19, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

billy bob – The reason why some Canadians come to the U.S. for healthcare is because our system works great FOR THE HIGHEST BIDDERS. If you dont fit into the upper class our system stinks.

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | June 19, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

NEED TO IMPEACH THE OBAMA AND HILLARY ADMINISTRATION BEFOR OBAMA AND HILLARY TAKES ALL YOUR RIGHTS AWAY

Posted by: RAMBOW99 | June 19, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

impeach obama and hillary

Posted by: RAMBOW99 | June 19, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

The Facists are in full speed ahead mode. Yes the Obama Democrats are Facists – just a simple fact. And its going to get worse. Imagine using ACORN to collect census data – any chance of corruption here?? The Obama nightmare is materializing more quickly than I ever imagined.

Posted by: Jack Frost | June 19, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

This is BS. We are broke people, we are broke and this administration is driving us into a deeper hole . It feels like they want this country broken for good. Is it hate the driving force behind all of this ? The boat is sinking and the Captain is saying is saying everything is fine and let’s keep going into the uncharter waters.Is it me the only one that feels this way ? or America is composed of stupid sheep taken to the slaughter house instead of citizens concerned for the future of what we fought so hard to achieve being destroyed ?

Posted by: Frank | June 19, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Keep health care reform simple and it will produce the greatest economic stimulus ever for our country.
Health care reform must be paid for.
The cheapest way to collect the money is through a national sales tax not by forcing people and companies to purchase questionable insurance to pay for services in a system that has failed so many.
The cheapest, most efficient, best outcome producing, delivery system would be through government owned and operated hospitals and clinics, operated as a civilian VA style system, that would deliver all government funded health care and medications free to everyone choosing to use government care, no restrictions period.
Businesses that choose public care for their employees will have no financial obligations or any other responsibilities concerning health care.
A robust private health care industry could thrive serving patients, who would prefer and could afford to pay for private care, in a private system that would no longer be burdened with subsidizing indigent, pre existing condition, and endless government mandated services.
Ask OMB; how much this dual choice, public or private system, would save annually from the $2.5 trillion now spent for care, what will this combination health care and stimulus package do for individuals, businesses and the US economy?

Posted by: Bill Watson | June 19, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Bill Watson – You said “The cheapest, most efficient, best outcome producing, delivery system would be through government owned and operated hospitals and clinics, operated as a civilian VA style system, that would deliver all government funded health care and medications free to everyone choosing to use government care, no restrictions period.”
Have you ever been in a VA facility? They are not the model that I would want for healthcare with all of the bad reports over the past few years about conditions in their facilities and reusing supplies between patients thus transmitting diseases such as HIV. There is no way that the government can fund anything resembling healthcare 100% free to the public. If they did then don’t expect to see any state of the art equipment or testing, You would see a person who could prescribe medications and that would be it. Good medical care costs money and there is no way with our aging population that a government run free healthcare option would be self sustaining over the years. The government has not proven in 35+ years that theyare capable of running a healthcare system, just look at the condition of Medicare and Medicaid.

Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | June 19, 2009, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

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