Today’s Qs for O’s WH – 6/26/2009

Jake,
Since there is already wall to wall MJ coverage, can we get back to important subjects like NK and Iran?
Could you ask the President, if he believes ballistic missle defense ‘doesn’t work’, why is he putting US anti-ballistic missile assets in place off Hawaii to potentially shoot a NK missile out of the sky?

Barack Obama speaking honestly on January 17, 2008 to the San Francisco Chronicle. This is pie in the sky liberal academia mixing with big government politics. It is good background information on how our President thinks:
“Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”
Necessarily? That doesn’t sound so good for families who earn under $250,000/year.
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”
Bankrupt? That doesn’t create jobs or help the economy but it sure would raise a lot of money. Why does the government always want more and more of our money? Why can’t they cut back as most families I know have cut back?
What about shared sacrifice? How much money could be saved if all federal employees took a 5% pay cut and all budgets from Representatives office budgets to Cabinet and Czar offices all the way up to the Presidential office cut their budgets by 5%.
The cost to Americans to fund this feel-good folly is too great.

I suggest all liberals and conservatives take turns not breathing for 24 hours. I just flipped a coin. We’ll start with the liberals.
(borneo said dark humor was a good thing, or something.)
Anyone think they are just trying to make us feel guilty for being greedy, unfeeling Americans like they do for everything else? Doesn’t seem to bother most of the rest of the world like India or China.

J House:”Could you ask the President, if he believes ballistic missle defense ‘doesn’t work’, why is he putting US anti-ballistic missile assets in place off Hawaii to potentially shoot a NK missile out of the sky?”
Well by your all-ballistic-missile-protection-systems-must-be-the-same logic, clearly Obama’s desire to cut development funding is meaningless. According to your grasp of the systems (oops – system – clearly there is only one), it is all done and ready to go.

President Obama is doing pretty much exactly what he said he would during the election campaign. Posted by: danita | Jun 26, 2009 4:20:21 PM
Please provide the date of the promise made and the date it was fulfilled. I want to check these out.

The polar bears survived when Greenland was…well, green.
And they will survive long after Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi’s children pass away.
They need to get a new religion that is happier than this doom and gloom one they continue to preach.
Have you noticed there is not one single positive aspect or by-product of ‘global warming’ put forth by its adherents?
That in itself proves it is a religion and ideology, not ‘science’.

I agree with a meteorologist at CNN in an article written by Jeff Poor of the
Business & Media Institute:
“You know, to think that we could affect weather all that much is pretty arrogant,” meteorologist Chad Myers said. “Mother Nature is so big, the world is so big, the oceans are so big – I think we’re going to die from a lack of fresh water or we’re going to die from ocean acidification before we die from global warming, for sure.”
Myers is the second CNN meteorologist to challenge the global warming conventions common in the media. He also said trying to determine patterns occurring in the climate would be difficult based on such a short span.
“But this is like, you know you said – in your career – my career has been 22 years long,” Myers said. “That’s a good career in TV, but talking about climate – it’s like having a car for three days and saying, ‘This is a great car.’ Well, yeah – it was for three days, but maybe in days five, six and seven it won’t be so good. And that’s what we’re doing here.”
“We have 100 years worth of data, not millions of years that the world’s been around,” Myers continued.
Dr. Jay Lehr, an expert on environmental policy, told “Lou Dobbs Tonight” viewers you can detect subtle patterns over recorded history, but that dates back to the 13th Century.
“If we go back really, in recorded human history, in the 13th Century, we were probably 7 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than we are now and it was a very prosperous time for mankind,” Lehr said. “If go back to the Revolutionary War 300 years ago, it was very, very cold. We’ve been warming out of that cold spell from the Revolutionary War period and now we’re back into a cooling cycle.”
Lehr suggested the earth is presently entering a cooling cycle – a result of nature, not man.
“The last 10 years have been quite cool,” Lehr continued. “And right now, I think we’re going into cooling rather than warming and that should be a much greater concern for humankind. But, all we can do is adapt. It is the sun that does it, not man.”

I guess Greenpeace can’t compete with the interest groups when lobbying the White House and congress anymore.
Please ask Gibbs why the “trillions” of dollars that will be made by cap-and-trade will not be paid for by taxpayers, but will be paid by only the “polluters”. Logic says that I am a polluter, if I use energy from a polluting energy source. So as a polluter, I will be taxed as defined by Obama.
Since at the very most 10% of energy comes from “green” sources of energy, that makes 90% of the country polluters.

Mike . …
Americans are polluters? What sacrilege!

The Cap and Tax is a tax on the poor. The poor may pay no income tax but this will raise prices on everything they purchase. Unfortunately they are not focused on the details of what is going on in Washington, and the “fourth estate” has gone to sleep.

Well, smother and destroy (aka cap and trade) passed in Congress. Notwithstanding all the idiot democrats that voted for this economy killing legislation, the following Republicans are now listed for removal in 2010:
Bono Mack
Castle
Kirk
Lance
LoBiondo
McHugh
Reichert
Smith (NJ)
Not one cent, traitorous scumbags.
Moving on…
So long, American Economy.
Congress in all its “wisdom” has decided that in order to save you, you must be burned to the ground.

“Danita”…..Michael is waiting for you.
Walk toward the light.

And through no fault of their own, the poor will be disproportionately affected, because they spend a higher percentage of their income on goods and services and particularly on energy.
Posted by: moderate
really doesn’t matter at all…. , like we saw last year with oil, if someone wants to bid up the price, nothing we can do about it….
like ENRON, want to bankrupt California, go for it…just ignore the men behind the curtain

notanobamafan . . .
Have you ever heard of taxation by income done by the federal government?
Good, I thought so.

In fact, this isn’t really any tax at all – the money collected is basically through fines levied on polluters – same as big industry might have to pay fines if they spew oil all over fresh water.
And yes, the costs of an oil company getting fined get passed onto consumers of oil. That does not mean oil companies should be allowed to pollute fresh water, nor that they shouldn’t be fined.
This is fairly straight forward.

Danita, you responded to my criticism of the bill by saying, “You are of course forgetting the entire proactive end of this bill regarding the encouragement and proliferation of clean energy business, income and technology.” I am not forgetting that aspect, actually. I am just not giving it the rosy interpretation you and the president want me to.
The bill encourages “clean energy” while ignoring the best possible clean energy source we have in America– nuclear energy. Is this bill encouraging the licensing and building of nuclear power plants? No. Is it providing financial incentives for nuclear power? No. Is it reducing red tape to fasttrack new permits for nuclear power stations? No. Nuclear power provides green energy, as well as high paying jobs. If those are the two goals of this bill, as the president says, then why ignore nuclear?
Now for your “positives”– the “encouragement” of alternative energy. The main encouragement provided is making power generated by solar or wind more economically viable by hobbling the “competition,” traditional energy sources. This bill will cause carbon-emitting power sources to become much more expensive, so that wind and solar, etc. can come closer to competing on price. Making all energy more expensive is not a solution I celebrate.
Finally, along with the “creation” of jobs in green energy jobs, we will have concomitant “destruction” of other jobs. Create a wind turbine technician position and eliminate two coal mining jobs. Create ten jobs building solar panels and destroy fifteen jobs in other manufacturing plants that use a lot of energy. Create a dozen jobs in Montana at a wind farm and destroy twenty jobs in Pennsylvania in a steel plant or an oil refinery. You call that progress?
Sorry, I’m not persuaded.

It seems to me during the election President Obama promised action on climate change and that is what he is delivering.

It seems to me during the election President Obama promised action on climate change and that is what he is delivering. Posted by: danita | Jun 27, 2009 2:17:13 PM
Actually, we are glad to see him break his promises because it is usually something that conservatives support, like his Gitmo decision yesterday. So even though we chastise him for breaking the promise, this is for his supporters’ benefit – that they will see he is just like any other politician.
The ones we fight against are the ones we disagree with.

Good lord, Danita … have you been living on a different planet than Earth for the past 16 years?

danita says: “This Cap and Trade arrangement isn’t really a tax at all – the money collected is basically through fines levied on polluters – same as big industry might have to pay fines if they spew oil all over fresh water.
And yes, the costs of an oil company getting fined get passed onto consumers of oil. That does not mean oil companies should be allowed to pollute fresh water, nor that they shouldn’t be fined.”
Wow again. This really shows the ignorance of the average Obama supporter. Cap and trade is theoretically supposed to regulate carbon emissions into the AIR. This bill is not something targeted at fining polluters. This bill is about trying to punish users of energy. Users of energy include you and I every time we use the computer, turn on a light, use the heat in the winter and a/c in the summer. We users of energy will be hit a lot harder than any energy producer under this bill. The people that will be profiting are those who hold stock in “clean energy” companies like the natural gas company that Pelosi holds stock in and if this takes effect she stands to make a lot of money. The billionaire T. Boone Pickens will also make a lot of money on his wind farm in west Texas. You and I will lose anywhere between the administrations estimate of $200 per year to some more realistic estimates of $2000 per year.