GOPers Criticize Food Items in Recovery.Gov

Recovery.gov: “Spilling the beans on pork!”

Recovery.gov is found to show paying $1,444,100 to fix a door? We’ll see if these examples are transparency, sloppy accounting, corruption or what.
How many jobs were created /saved?
I imagine there will be a lot of page caching this week in case anything gets “scrubbed.”

Agree with the GOP, lots of waste and pork there.
Government has been issuing educational research grants for such foolishness as a “better catsup”, and a “better pickle” for years, to the tune of millions of dollars……just to pad the revenue for higher education.
Not something that makes very much sense.
Food manufacturers should be responsible for such research…..not higher education.

That is all Republicans are good for….to snipe at others solutions since do not have any of their own. If you look hard at government, any major corporation, any military program, any political party organization you will find situations where money appears to be not spent wisely. Pointing these situations out with the intent of improving them is one thing….pointing them out simply for political gain and simply to snipe is another…and that is the only thing Republicans are good for right now…sniping

Why is the most transparent President in history refusing to release his budget report until next month–a month late?
Another reason why he must hurry and get health care passed NOW!!!
Plus there are those pesky polls showing BO is tanking fast.

Republicans are good for right now…sniping Posted by: indy_voter | Jul 20, 2009 10:55:39 AM
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That’s what you do when you are out of power. You remember sniping don’t you? Liberals sniped for 8 years and now all of a sudden, politics should be a gentelemen’s game? Not likely. Better thicken your skin and get used to it. You’ve got 3 1/2 more years of sniping.

“If you look hard at government, any major corporation, any military program, any political party organization you will find situations where money appears to be not spent wisely.”
Three of the four entities you mentioned are politically or government driven. The fourth – “major corporations” – (at least the better ones) use a deliberate process to analyze the projected financial return of proposed investments. Given limited budgets, the best project (those with highest projected return) are selected.
This process did not occur when the “stimulus” was crammed through by Obama and the Democrats. These “projects” (or expenditures) are examples of why the cost per job “created” is measured in the hundreds of thousands or even millions. To compare the waste generated by this legislation vs. processes corporations use to select investment options is disingenuous.
It appears your goal is to “shoot the messenger” because you do not like the message. The expenditures (while perhaps worthy) do nothing to create jobs (the stated purpose – by Obama, Reid, and Pelosi – of the “stimulus”).

Obama is a typical tax and spend Democrat–but on steroids.
And they say the Republicans are out of ideas.

Didn’t Recovery.org cost $18million?
More of our money wasted.
BO spends money and passes bills like someone that realizes time is running out.
Is he already a lame duck?

So for less than the price of a cluster bomb we gave half a million pounds of food to hungry families? Well done!

It was supposed to be the place Americans could go to see how our money is being spent, right?
Posted by: MayBee | Jul 20, 2009 11:10:27 AM
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Well I certainly remember ONE SPECIFIC COMMENTER pushed it pretty hard! ;-)

Sorry, but despite the warm & fuzzies of using stimulus money to send food to food banks, this is an activity that is NOT stimulating to the economy and it is something that is Constitutionally-mandated as being an individual state’s responsibility. Nowhere does it say that because one state is having problems the people in other states are required to bail them out.
Certainly, if people want to donate to organizations helping those in “tough times” areas, that is their perogative and I’d imagine that generous Americans would do just that. But to pad an economic stimulus bill with forced charitable contributions is simply wrong.
No matter how you slice the ham or the cheese.

Republicans in congress are becoming more worthless every day. They spend all their complaining & looking for hot button issues to soap box on. I divorced for less worthless bickering.

I’d like to see a specific breakdown of where this stuff went and to whom. We learn today that Porkulus went to those who needed it least – so I wouldn’t be surprised if he sent the ham to a pig farm.

Obama, February 23rd, 2009:
“‘In 2008 alone we paid $250 billion in interest on our debt – 1 in every 10 taxpayer dollars. That is more than three times what we spent on education that year,’ he said.
“‘That’s why today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office.’”
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I believe the deficit was around $10.4 trillion when Obama took the Oath. So far 2009 shows $1.01 trillion added with 3-1/2 years to go, we’re moving in the wrong direction.
U.S. Debt Clock spins on!
2.19 billion spent in 201 days!
1.01 deficit spending in 201 days!
Not to worry! It’s all Bush’s fault!

So the stimulus is being used to pay recurring entitlement expenses.

“If it is so well done, why on earth wasn’t it well done in the open without being buried in a ‘stimulus’ bill?”
They didn’t use invisible ink to write it. The text is public record, as open as it gets. And buying food sends a little boost of stimulus all the way down the food supply chain.
Suppliers benefit, hungry people benefit, seems like a high-upside, low-downside expenditure to me. Well done.

“Using hunger and domestic food banks as a cheap sneer”
There’s nothing cheap about the porkulus plan – as your grand children will attest when they grow up and have to pay for this.
Do we really have to point out that it’s not about the food – it’s about the deliberate hypocrisy of selling this plan as a jobs bill when it was not?

Now that’s pork we can believe in.

I have no problem helping out those in need, but to pitch the ‘Recovery’ bill as a ‘stimulus’ package that will generate economic activity and produce jobs when it was clearly an opportunity to avoid going through the correct appropriations channels bothers me tremendously. As far as I’m concerned, the Administration and Congress did themselves a disservice by pitching something to the public that most of us knew wouldn’t have the results the Administration and Congress claimed would be the outcome. If they had been smart, they would have pitched a bill that actually did something to stimulate the economy and then another to help those in need. Putting the two together and passing the bill all too quickly could very well be their undoing. The plan has not worked as intended and now we are faced with more ‘rushed’ legislation. Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. Congress and the Administration is living up to this definition beautifully.

I think the admin has some explaining to do either way. Either they paid too much for the pork or they paid too much for Recovery.gov as the site doesn’t explain clearly how much food is being bought.

===There’s no proof that these projects will trickle down to anyone other than have a modest affect on a few chosen people.===
…that voted for Obama.

I suppose it boils down to which sector of the economy you want to stimulate; American agriculture and food processing, or Brooks Brothers.

Axey | Jul 20, 2009 12:39:18 PM – There’s no proof that these projects will trickle down to anyone other than have a modest affect on a few chosen people …that voted for Obama.—– Maybe it’s just about feeding hungry people. What is wrong with that? Have you given to your local food bank lately? The one thing that we should not have in this country is hunger! It’s sad that it’s ok with Republicans.

Traffic Cop Timmy:”Do we really have to point out that it’s not about the food – it’s about the deliberate hypocrisy of selling this plan as a jobs bill when it was not? ”
You’re making up history. It was NEVER sold as ONLY a jobs bill. It was sold as a stimulus in response to a very deed recession. Heck, the Republican amendment for a tax cut to the upper middle class that makes up almost 10% of the total spending has never been called a job stimulator, even by its Republican sponser.
Please cite where the stimulus was ‘sold’ as ONLY a jobs bill (not spun by a partisan talking head), unless you are completely lying just to set up a strawman.

And that is the sad thing. Keep people poor so that they rely on the government more so that they will vote for you so that you will get more handouts because you are still poor so you will vote for them, so you can get more handouts because you are still poor so you will vote for me………Hey, wasn;t that a cocaine commercial back in the 90′s? How are those jobs panning out-wait, what about those 250,000 summer jobs—LOL, yup, those haven’t even panned out have they. Hence why they added $123 BILLION to the food stamps portion of the ag bill, add Billions more to unemployment–but hey, that stimuluspackage worked right away like Obama and his crew said it would! WOW……unfrigginbelievable!

“set our economy on a firmer foundation.”
By…..
“But today marks the beginning of the end, the beginning of what WE NEED TO DO TO CREATE JOBS for Americans scrambling in the way of playoffs.”
February 17, 2009 Obama’s comments upon signing the stimulus bill…

“Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime………JOBS

You’re making up history. It was NEVER sold as ONLY a jobs bill. Posted by: jhw539 | Jul 20, 2009 1:04:41 PM
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I never said it was sold as a jobs ONLY bills. You said ONLY. I said it was sold as a jobs bill. Barack Hussein Obama said himself in his January 16, 2009 speech from the east Room of the White House “the first job of my Administration is to put people back to work and get our economy working again.”
What does “The first job of my Administration is to put people back to work” mean to you? Does it mean spending money on ham? Is ham a shovel-ready project?
You can say ONLY if you want but if you were true to the intention of his speech, you know it’s about jobs. You’re defending his misleading statements and his failure to deliver to the point of absurdity.

Posted by: kmday | Jul 20, 2009 1:11:51 PM
It’s an in-depth, 1200 word, legitimate article written by Fox News’ John Lott, in which he appropriately says “The spending data come from two reliable sources: the Wall Street Journal and the Federal government’s Recovery.gov.”
Nothing tricky to understand there – but you spin it any way you want.

“It’s an in-depth, 1200 word, legitimate article written by Fox News’ John Lott, in which he appropriately says “The spending data come from two reliable sources: the Wall Street Journal and the Federal government’s Recovery.gov.”"
Foxnews relying upon the WSJ.
Convenient to have 1 lying course confirm another.
FoxNews analysts have in the last two weeks hoped for a major terrorist attack on a US city and the death of the solider currently being held in Afghanistan

Now GOPers are criticizing food for the poor?

Shovel-ready food, no doubt. How does that stimulate the economy? Why don’t these kids’ parents use their taxpayer-provided food stamps to feed them?

The Republicans whine in sympathy with all the people losing their jobs – but actually help them with food? Heavens no! Let them suffer!

“When will the President confirm he is a U.S. citizen?
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 20, 2009 2:18:30 PM”
Timmy’s a bither?
Why did I waste my time with a lunatic.

“Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 20, 2009 2:18:30 PM”
Name jack?

Foxnews relying upon the WSJ.
Convenient to have 1 lying course confirm another.
FoxNews analysts have in the last two weeks hoped for a major terrorist attack on a US city and the death of the solider currently being held in Afghanistan
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Ryan C,
Care to provide back-up for that?

“No, GOPers are criticizing non-economic spending hidden within “stimulus” legislation that was supposed to create jobs.” Posted by: tjp612 | Jul 20, 2009 2:55:07 PM
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The Recovery and Reinvestment plan had blocks of money specifically targeted to assist people losing their jobs and hurting during this massive economic downturn.
Those funds were there from the beginning and were designed to shore up unemployment assistance and health care support for those losing work and/or vulnerable.
Republicans whine in sympathy with people losing their jobs – but actually help feed them? Heavens no! Let them suffer!

“they … allowed him to put into place his signature Bush Tax Cuts”
Posted by: jhw539 | Jul 20, 2009 11:44:31 AM
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They “allowed” him? Well that WAS gracious since they didn’t have enough votes to stop him.
YEAs 58
NAYs 33
Present 2
Not Voting 7
And I was really talking more about liberals in general – not necessarily politicians. Liberals were totally viscious for 8 years. And they were worse towards McCain/Palin. So you can get off your little soap box about how accommodating Liberals are.