Jul 9, 2009 8:50am

Is the Stimulus Working?

The president today will chair the Major Economies Forum to discuss the state of the global economy from Europe to Indonesia. But back home a rising chorus is wondering if the economic plan for the U.S. is working… and if it’s enough.


The jobless claims for the month of June bring unemployment close to an astounding 10 percent, while the stock market this week has plunged to its lowest since April 30th.


It’s been five months since the colossal $787 billion dollar stimulus package was signed, with only about $56 billion of it having been distributed.


We took a look at this question on GMA this morning:

– jpt

User Comments

I am still laughing about this topic. Of course it isn’t working. You can’t throw money on a burning pile and expect it to be worth anything.It’s all about issuing in socialism into our lives and making people dependent on the government. It’s all about power.

Posted by: pwtala | July 9, 2009, 9:32 am 9:32 am

if Stimulus means taxation without representation, putting the country in debt that can never be paid, socialization of the bank, health care and auto industries, increasing the size and scope of government and of course promising that everyone will get everything they want except those dirty heartless rich people (excluding the current elite in government) then yes, its working. Next a rewrite of the constitution and brown shirts for the promised youth corp.

Posted by: Tom | July 9, 2009, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Poll numbers for the president are down even more today. It ain’t working.

Posted by: jennifert7 | July 9, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Productive ones taxed
Non-productive reap rewards
Stimulus? Won’t work!

Posted by: Terry | July 9, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am

6 months Obama, times up! Let’s put the republicans back in charge.

Posted by: watching | July 9, 2009, 9:47 am 9:47 am

The “real” unemployment rate (unemployed+underemployed) now stands at 16.5%, a 26-year high, and is moving quickly toward 20%. In fact, unemployment accelerated in June. I think that speaks volumes about the “success” of the stimulus package.

Posted by: Jenn | July 9, 2009, 9:50 am 9:50 am

How’s that “Hope and Change, Change and Hope” woring out for you?
Obama called this recession the “worst since the Great Depression” to get elected. How can the administration now say they did not know how bad things really are?
The stimulus was a huge waste as it had nothing to do with immediate measures. It was to spend for the sake of spending. Look to whom he delegated it, Nancy Pelosi. She’s oblivious. Good choice.

Posted by: Anthony | July 9, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am

This is all about stimulating the government and nothing to do with helping the workers of America.

Posted by: mtheory | July 9, 2009, 9:57 am 9:57 am

The answer to this hostile question is in your silly piece, Tapper. A fraction of stimulus money has been spent, but more is quickly being distributed.

Posted by: matt | July 9, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Long ago right here I predicted this result. The bulk of the spending is for expansion of welfare and unemployment. Only 14% is for infrastructure.
The plurality of the spending comes next year- an election year. This “stimulus” was never anything other than a Democrat re-election trinket package.
“The worst economy since the Great Depression” and the “misread” that? What a load of manure.
America, now you pay for your gullibility in electing a charlatan.

Posted by: drjohn | July 9, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Concerned: just read that on the DrudgeReport Michelle carrying a $6000 purse.. plus yesterday photos of her in that yellow dress..You can tell she’s eating good on our tax dollars with the way she’s spreading out
50 Black teens attack a white family that is enjoying the 4th of july. Teens screaming “THIS IS BLACK AMERICA” this hate crime not reported by ABC CBS NBC
White Teenage girl attacked on Train by 7 black youths.. Agian not reported by media..If 50 whites had attacked a black family you BET it would be on the news..With Race baiter Al sharpthen leading the way… Hows that stimulus working? Got jobs? is DeputyDawg Biden still tracking every dollar spent LMAO Stand up Chuck ..Stand up

Posted by: Obamas brownnosing media network | July 9, 2009, 11:03 am 11:03 am

During the campaign…Obama stated over and over, that the way to fix the econmy was not from the top, down. But from the bottom, up.
He ignored that statement and only helped, wall street, the banks other huge companies.
Foreclosures are still rising, bank fees are even higher, banks are not lending money and CEO bonuses are bigger than ever.
What is wrong with this scenario?
Obama ignored his campaign pledge to help the lower and middle class, and went directly to helping the elitists.
Obama is naive and inexperienced.
He wants a touchy, feel-good world, which will never happen.

Posted by: not buying the bull | July 9, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am

matt says: “The answer to this hostile question is in your silly piece, Tapper. A fraction of stimulus money has been spent, but more is quickly being distributed.”
Huh. This is a hostile question? “Is the stimulus working?” You seem pretty defensive Matt. Wasn’t the stimulus supposed to be all about jobs? Why has most of the money that’s been distributed not gone to infrastructure projects, like repairing bridges, etc… instead of going to AIG and GM (among others)? They didn’t save any jobs at either place, it was just corporate welfare. Seems like a reasonable question to me.

Posted by: Jason | July 9, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am

re: M-Bam’s purse:
“The White House flatly denies that Obama bought such a high-priced accessory, and says that she was carrying a patent clutch that retails for $875.”
Oh well, since it was only $875, that’s different! This is getting to be like “The Jeffersons.”
When is M-Bam going to choose a cause to actually work on. How about the sex trafficking into the U.S. from all these glorious countries she is visiting. There are plenty of organizations struggling to be heard on this. Lending her voice to this would be terrific. It’s been almost 6 months. What is she waiting for?

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am

IT IS WORKING. The Democrat-Communist Party wants to destroy our economic system and to put all business control in the hands of the federal government. They’re succeeding.

Posted by: Ron | July 9, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Where do I sign up for “The Willing Suspension of Disbelief?”

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am

What is wrong with this scenario? Posted by: not buying the bull | Jul 9, 2009 11:09:31 AM
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Oh, I don’t know… how about “I never got a job from a poor person?”
He’s making the same mistake with the housing crisis. He’s bailing out all the wrong people. I was ready to downsize for retirement but could not. I have a job, good credit and pay my mtg and bills on time. If I could have got a tax credit to move, I would have. Now it is too late. I’m under water by 30 grand and don’t qualify because I’m overqualified. If Obama had rescued me and others like me when we moved, home sales would have picked up stimulating durable goods purchases. Not that I wanted the bailout anyway but at least he would have been bailing out the right people.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

“But back home a rising chorus is wondering if the economic plan for the U.S. is working… and if it’s enough.”
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These are two different tunes and possibly two different choruses. Is the media singing their tune because they are concerned for the public or because they hope to drum up support for a second stimulus to help what they think will get the President the helped elect out of a jam?
Jake?

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am

I am getting an uncomfortable feeling when I see the current First Family “go Hollywood” by flaunting high end items such as expensive Hawaiian vacations, given as a gift, expensive clothes and accessories, that even a family on 6 figure salary would not purchase I know from experience, expensive pet, given as a gift…who knows what else….when I see people around me who have lost their jobs and can’t afford to make rent or utilities..It demonstrates an arrogant attitude, poor judgment and taste for ANY elected official, who makes the rules that we all have to follow, to behave in such a manner in these troubled times..This is suppose to be a Democracy not a Monarch…

Posted by: Parallex View | July 9, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Oh, I don’t know… how about “I never got a job from a poor person?”
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‘Cept Obama did get his job(s) from poor people. They’re the ones he promises pie to so they show up to vote for him–with ACORN’s help and our money.

Posted by: jennifert7 | July 9, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Is it working?
Go ask some of those 400,000+ who lost their jobs last month!

Posted by: Mike_C | July 9, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

You’re exactly right, Parallex View. It also looks like she is wearing 2 ct. diamond earrings. Even if they do have the money for it, it is in extremely bad taste given the dire economic situation we’re all in right now. Trips, clothing, full time hair and make up, expensive “date nights”, weekly coctail parties. It’s disgusting and, yes, arrogant.

Posted by: jennifert7 | July 9, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am

The ‘stimulus’ was nothing more than a goody bag of programs Congress wanted yrs ago but was threatened with a Bush veto.
Obama is Carter redux.

Posted by: J House | July 9, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Talk about more spending, and the price tag that will come with it, will keep the upper middle and middle class people from spending money.
Someone is going to have to pay for all of this, and thoughts of an even higher tax bill is daunting.

Posted by: MayBee | July 9, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Regarding Michelle’s $6,000 purse:
The Obamas have the right to spend as much of their own own money as they want on whatever they choose.

Posted by: mad | July 9, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Is the stimulus working? Depends on what its intent was. If it was about expanding government and destrying the private sector, it is a roaring success. If it was about getting the economy going and the private sector back on its feet, not so much.

Posted by: bmm | July 9, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Regarding Michelle’s $6,000 purse:
The Obamas have the right to spend as much of their own own money as they want on whatever they choose.
Posted by: mad | Jul 9, 2009 12:30:23 PM
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Absolutely, and the press has the right to report on it. And the talk show hosts should bring her on their show – after all, they brought her on and made a big deal about her JCrew outfit during the campaign. They should now bring her back so she can talk about her expensive purse. Fair is fair.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

“It’s been five months since the colossal $787 billion dollar stimulus package was signed, with only about $56 billion of it having been distributed.”
Hang on – are the Republicans whining about the “waste of money” AND it not being spent fast enough?
Also it seems to be fundamentally dishonest to say it was a $787 billion stimulus but only count “distributions” – the tax breaks that make up about 30% of the cost don’t count in the distribution.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 9, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

I am getting an uncomfortable feeling when I see the current First Family “go Hollywood” by flaunting high end items
Posted by: Parallex View | Jul 9, 2009 11:36:39 AM
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Search for L.E. Ikenga and read…

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Absolutely right, Traffic Cop Timmy, but don’t hold your breath waiting for those interviews.

Posted by: mad | July 9, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

I am getting an uncomfortable feeling when I see the current First Family “go Hollywood” by flaunting high end items
Posted by: Parallex View | Jul 9, 2009 11:36:39 AM
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Search for L.E. Ikenga and read…
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 9, 2009 12:54:48 PM
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People make such a big deal about Obama having a motorcade, about Obama wearing suits, about his kids wearing nice clothes, about them going on dates, etc.
It’s disgusting that when past Presidents do these things… nobody bats an eye.
But when Obama does it, it’s considered “flashy” and “excessive” and “above his station.”
Why is it wrong for him and his family to dress like past occupants of the White House?
It’s a sickening double standard. But it says everything about the deep-seated biases of many Obama critics.
We have a long way to go as a country.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

If you are a radical right winger, it doesn’t matter how much the purse cost or even if the Obamas bought it themselves…
They have so much baggage to carry around themselves, that they ASSUME it was gotten through illicit means.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

It’s disgusting that when past Presidents do these things… nobody bats an eye.
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Oh, people have been batting eyes for half a century at least.

Posted by: MayBee | July 9, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Just because the Obamas have the means and the right to flash extravegant possessions doesn’t mean it’s smart to do so while urging sacrifice and service on a population increasingly out of work and underemployed.

Posted by: mad | July 9, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

It’s a sickening double standard. But it says everything about the deep-seated biases of many Obama critics. Posted by: borneo | Jul 9, 2009 1:26:14 PM
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The Obamas campaigned on being part of “the common people” and “feeling our pain.” Truth is they are not. Some of this came out when Michelle Obama made statements like sacrificing to her was deciding if her kids should have piano lessons or not. Of course, it was covered up by the fawning media.
The media also made a big deal about her “affordable fashions” she wore but now that the campaign is over and she is in the WH, the expensive stuff is making its way out. And the perception with the clothes, the date nights and all that stuff is that they are above it all while the country suffers.
They are hypocrites.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

And borneo, what President goes into the Oval Office and puts his feet up on a 200 year old piece of history like it’s a barrel or something?
Truth is he has no respect for this country and what it stands for. Obama sees this country as flawed because it was founded around the slavery issue is out to change it. Democrats take all the credit for Civil Rights and hang the slavery issue around necks of Republicans.
If it doesn’t have any “control” advantage, he’s not interested in it or cares if he flip-flops on it. All this foreign policy, apology stuff is just to keep the rest of the world at arms length while he is remaking the country (H/T Mark Steyne).

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

You can try to gin it up into some sort phony populist outrage…. but the fact is that Republicans haven’t cared about the common people for years. My whole life the GOP has stood in favor of outsourcing, the rights of businesses over their workers, and tax cuts for rich people.
Obama is someone who worked very hard to achieve great things. Of course he is rich, now. When was the last time we elected someone who WASN’T rich?
It’s the way our political system is. If you want to live in a country where more ordinary people have the opportunity to thrive, improve themselves, and get into politics… you have to support candidates who support poor and working people.
Sure, I’d love to elect some hobo off the streets to work in Washington. And, I bet most hobos would do better than the people we have in Washington right now.
But for the time being, our political choices are limited to rich people who despise poor people and rich people who care about poor people.
In your worldview, the only good candidate would be the rich guy who hated poor people… because at least he wouldn’t be a hypocrite.
But I would much rather have a rich hypocrite who loved poor people, because at this point, it is the best shot that poor people have at making things better.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

I suppose it was fortunate that Bush never even pretended to like poor people. By some standards, it would make him “perfect.”
A rich guy who likes other rich guys and runs the country for their benefit.
Ralph Waldo Emerson said it best: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.”

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

Traffic Cop Timmy:”And borneo, what President goes into the Oval Office and puts his feet up on a 200 year old piece of history like it’s a barrel or something? ”
Actually sounds like a classic Reagan move.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 9, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

borneo, you can think what you want about Republicans. I won’t try to change your mind.
“In your worldview, the only good candidate would be the rich guy who hated poor people… because at least he wouldn’t be a hypocrite.”
I actually prefer a person like Ronald Reagan and he did not hate poor people. I like Sarah Palin too because she is a hard working middle class person.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

People put their feet up on desks all the time.
You USE furniture. It’s a piece of furniture. It’s not a museum piece. I’m quite certain that other people have put their feet on that desk. I’ve certainly seen pictures of children playing under it. It’s not the Shroud of Turin.
It is so strange that you would get so hung up on the sacred aura surrounding an object. It’s a congenital flaw in the conservative worldview… you worship the symbols as quasi-mystical things… But when it comes to actually living out the principles that make those things sacred you fail miserably.
Your leaders pass laws to protect marriage, but in practice, do not LIVE good marriages.
Your leaders pass laws to protect the Ten Commandments, but in practice, break those commandments religiously.
Your leaders pass laws protecting the flag, effectively nullifying the very radical freedom that the flag itself represents.
Your leaders want “constitutionalist” judges, but pass laws that diminish the various freedoms spelled out in the bill of rights.
Your leaders praise Jesus, but ignore his teachings by getting hung up on a loveless, rigid, and ultimately cruel fascination with the letter of the law in the Old Testament.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Actually sounds like a classic Reagan move. Posted by: jhw539 | Jul 9, 2009 2:10:20 PM
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Ooh, I may have to take that one back. Thanks for making me look bad in a respectful way. :-) I’m not afraid to admit when I’m wrong and I admit I fall victim to Republican propaganda, but I try not to. Actually, I think I thought that one up on my own after seing the picture of Obama and hearing about him sending back the bust of Churchill.
I’ll trust but verify on Reagan. But if he did it, he still respected the history of the desk while he was doing it. (That’s my spin and I’m sticking to it.)
PS: How’s the bid going? Shouldn’t you be working on it instead of making me look bad?

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

By the way, George W. Bush and Gerald Ford have both been photographed with their feet on the desk in the Oval Office.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

But, both Ford and Bush have different background….
So I am guessing that your outrage has more to do with “who” has their feet on the desk.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

borneo: “a congenital flaw in the conservative worldview”?
I can’t even read the rest of this. Sorry I even mentioned furniture. If we “worship the symbols as quasi-mystical things”, why are there so many museums throughout the world? Good grief! Think of it more as a talking point. You’ll sleep better at night.
Shouldn’t you be working or something?

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Alright! Enough about the desk. I surrender! Could we talk about the other part of my posts?
Truth is he has no respect for this country and what it stands for. Obama sees this country as flawed because it was founded around the slavery issue is out to change it. Democrats take all the credit for Civil Rights and hang the slavery issue around necks of Republicans.
If it doesn’t have any “control” advantage, he’s not interested in it or cares if he flip-flops on it. All this foreign policy, apology stuff is just to keep the rest of the world at arms length while he is remaking the country (H/T Mark Steyne).

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Based on what? What makes you think that Obama doesn’t care about this country?
People said the same thing about Bush.
It doesn’t make it right.
The fact is that Obama is actually in line with some well-established American traditions.
He walks softly… Who knows if he carries a big stick. Certainly, the right was unhappy with his talk about the pirates, but I must say, he managed to wield the stick pretty effectively there.
He’s treading softly with Iraq and Afghanistan, but his policies, apparently, are far too aggressive for the pacifist left. So, who knows.
The future is yet to be written with Iran and N. Korea. So far, he’s walking softly.
As far as the deficit. It’s a good point. He is a big government kind of guy. But on the other hand, his fiscal policies and those of his predecessor are not as far apart as people like to imagine. Certainly, the socialist are totally disappointed by Obama’s policies.
The guy is a moderate. You can try to trump the whole thing up into some “sky is falling, Obama is Hitler” hysteria… but you’d just be engaging in self-indulgent and hollow rage based on some superficial quality… rather than some existential threat to America.
It’s no different than carping about Obama’s feet on the desk… in most respects, he’s a pretty typical, middle of the road politician…. puts his feet on the desk like the other guys, too.
I’m not going to freak out and act like America is doomed based on some fraudulent email forwards and some hyperventilating radio rants generated by people paid to shill for the GOP.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Even Sarah Palin went nuts with the spending… and she wasn’t using her personal money to do it (she was using campaign funds!).
The fact is that middle class people, when faced with the chance to have something nice, are often inclined to try it.
The Obama’s evidently, are a lot like the Palins, in this regard. Although, relatively, their spending seems much more constrained.
Maybe it makes the Obamas and the Palins hypocrites. But you know what, I would rather have a hypocrite in the White House, provided they were hypocritical in a way that was favorable to the common good (ie. Being rich, but favoring poor people.)
And, you are right about Reagan… but he was an exception… and I think his legacy has been tarnished by all the people who have ridden his coattails to Washington.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

It’s interesting how the comments on most article completely go off subject, not discussing Mr Obama and his stimulous plan, but flogging dead horses, such as the subjects of Bush and Palin etc.

Posted by: tx281 | July 9, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Timmy…
I’m sorry for getting so amped up. I get really mad when people say Obama is acting to big for his britches. It’s a very peculiar criticism to direct at the President of the United States, especially when the last President was such a hard-core advocate for a strong, unitary executive branch. And when it is interspersed with random news flashes about black on white crime, it really sets me off.
I used to be a Republican. I even have done some writing for a very conservative Republican congressional candidate. But I found that the people I was around lived in this insulated bubble… and sometimes were acting on information from extremely biased sources. Even though, I myself had not been raised to be bigoted, I found that surrounding myself with such limited types of information had the effect of skewing my worldview.
I tend to be a conservative guy, particularly in terms of issues like gun ownership, education, and most social issues… but there is something really sinister happening to the GOP right now. And, like toads being boiled in the pan, lots of really good folks don’t even realize where they are heading.
I think things will get so bad in the GOP that the fringe is going to pretty much discredit the entire party, if the rank and file don’t start acting like rational people. And then who is going to balance out the Democratic Party? there won’t even be an alternative.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

jhw539 asks: “Hang on – are the Republicans whining about the “waste of money” AND it not being spent fast enough?”
No, I am completely opposed to the stimulus, and I will point out the waste of money that the whole thing is while at the same time pointing out that the intent was to save or create jobs. The only way to save or create jobs right now so unemployment doesn’t get even worse than what they projected it would if there was no stimulus at all is to spend a lot of money right now on things like road construction and bridge repair. The sad part about the stimulus is of the $56,000,000,000,000 spent is that most of that went to AIG and GM, neither of which has saved any of the middle class and lower class jobs that are disappearing.

Posted by: Jason | July 9, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

I know the desk thing has been flogged to death already, but you missed the point of the outrage most of us had in regards to that picture. The context was that Obama was talking to Netanyahu on the phone at the time the picture was taken, and the WH made sure that this picture was released as a message. It is very insulting in the middle east to show the bottom of your sole to anyone and this was an insult that the muslim world picked up on and was happy to see. Obama is the master of the put down, remember the middle finger he gave to Hillary in the debates, and this was another not so subtle put down of Netanyahu. Who cares who put their feet on the desk, I mean Clinton got a BJ in the oval office, so I think that tops any of the feet on the desk criticisms.

Posted by: Jason | July 9, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

I don’t know. It’s a moot point to talk about GM now, because GM didn’t vanish and millions of auto-parts suppliers haven’t lost their jobs.
It’s easy to sit around and say we would be better off if we hadn’t saved GM.
But it is hard for me to imagine what WOULD have happened had we just let it go belly up. It is true that other companies would have filled the void. Notably, KIA has been increasing its market share very rapidly.
In the grand scheme of global capitalism, red in tooth and claw, it would be “good” to let GM die and let growing companies like KIA and Tata rise to fill the void. And if the auto parts suppliers in the US were to go bankrupt, it would have created a killer opportunity for Asian auto parts suppliers.
So in this sense, the federal intervention in GM is “unnatural” and “anti-capitalistic.”
But, on the other hand, a precipitous decimation of the U.S. auto and related industries would have had potentially catastrophic social effects (I’m talking about riots and possible insurrections) and would have also had some really profound geo-political effects as well… rapidly lifting asian economies and plunging the U.S. economy even further down than it is already. Consolidating a major part of the world’s industrial capacity in a region that, in my opinion, is already emerging as a potential obstacle to US dominance.
With Obama’s policies, we are trading some future prosperity for security…. but it is the kind of security that is worthwhile.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Here we have the downside of a microwave society.

Posted by: Omentum | July 9, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

I read all of the comments above and I am amazed at all of the bashing, and pettiness. Who cares if the guy smokes, puts his feet on the desk and what clothes anyone is wearing?
Jeez, what do you expect in any President elect? If we are to gain any kind of control of America, remember, it was all of the historical events and plus’ and minus’ that made this country what it is!
If there was any one message that defined the Obama campaign from the beginning, it was his promise to rise above the petty politics of division and unite the country. But now comes reality. The newly elected Congress will be left of center, particularly the old liberal bulls that chair committees and form much of the leadership of the House and Senate.
If we are to come together as a nation once again, conceived in the thought of liberty, then let the man do his job, stop the pettiness and let congress back him up!

Posted by: Danielle Watson | July 9, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

No worries, borneo. I deserved it about the desk. I’ll read through the rest of your stuff in a bit. I appreciate your input.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Folks it is not going to get better we are tipping the falls of the actual cost of the New Deal government has promised more than it can deliver or tax. At full employment most European countries see 10% unemployment as a goal or full employment. And this group we elected just wants to spend more fire meet gasoline. Glad I live in Texas. Eric

Posted by: Eric | July 9, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Danielle says: “If there was any one message that defined the Obama campaign from the beginning, it was his promise to rise above the petty politics of division and unite the country.”
Yeah, how is that unity working out? Not very well when Obama calls anyone who disagrees with him an ideologue. One of the first things he did after being inaugurated was to start funding for federal funds to go towards abortions in other countries, which of course is a very divisive issue. His supreme court nominee is no moderate either and that is divisive. For all his campaign speeches you would have thought we elected a moderate, but instead we elected one of the most liberal presidents in our history. The divisions will only deepen as he tries to push more of his agenda that is out of step with the majority of the US. I guess he really is another one of those politicians who break campaign promises like it’s no skin off his back.

Posted by: Jason | July 9, 2009, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Obama on the ecomney: I defer to Nancy Pelosi..Got Jobs? anyone anyone
Obama 1 word: antibusiness

Posted by: Obamas brownnosing media network | July 9, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

I certainly didn’t see it as an offense to Israel.
But if Netanyahu wants to insist that everyone walk on eggshells… even the President of the United States… he should extend the same courtesy to others.
Today, he called Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod “self-hating Jews.” On top of that, he won’t go along with the U.S. on the issue of the settlements.
So I think the whole outrage about his feet on the desk is just mean-spirited people looking for something to criticize… and, shockingly, being unable to find actual principled points of criticism. And, knowing that a certain segment of the population is pre-disposed to seeing Obama through biased eyes.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

He is the worst president I have ever seen. He messed up the stimulus and now all he does is travel around the world at taxpayer’s expense.
Dumb limousine liberals stuck us with this loser when we could have had Hillary.

Posted by: bubbles | July 9, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Sotomayor is a pretty moderate judge. Appointed by a Republican to the appeals court, she has a very high record of success for an appeals court judge (meaning, her rulings tend to be backed by the Supreme Court more often than her peers in the appeals).
I heard a guy from a conservative special interest group saying that Sotomayor has spent her life trying to get nominated to the Supreme Court, and that her moderate record is the result of a decade-long deception… but that once approved she will drop the mask.
It’s an unlikely and paranoid theory. It would mean that she would have spent her entire career hoping that out of millions of people, she would be in a position to not only make the short list, but be chosen as the nominee.
But it kind of refutes the claim that she is a left-wing judge if conservative lobbyists are trying to push the idea that her moderate record is just a cover for her liberal agenda.

Posted by: borneo | July 9, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

Borneo, of course I took notice when you wrote, of President Obama of all people, “The guy is a moderate.” That’s the funniest thing I have heard all day. You made me laugh. Thanks!
you weren’t serious, were you? You can make an argument that the president is a pragmatist. You make make an argument that he is a realist. But you cannot make a serious argument that he is a moderate.

Posted by: moderate | July 9, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Pelosi, Rahm, Axelrod, Obama are doing
their best to crush opposition to their
delusions of grandeur. The MSM are
willing participants. The GOP squawks
occasionally, but has no coherence.
The wild card in this unprecedented
power-grab is the American prople. They
are slow to anger but powerful when
they think they’ve been “had”. The early
Dem bravado is crumbling. My God,
even the cable shows are hinting that
all is not well in Obamaland! People
are starting to look for REAL hope
and change. The harder the Dems push
the more resistance they will meet.
It’s the way of politics.

Posted by: Trajan | July 9, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

THIS IS THE “NEW DEAL” ALL OVER AGAIN – DEALING ALL OF US POOR SLOBS OUT THE THE LOOP WHILE MR. WONDERFUL CAN JAM THROUGH HIS “FEEL GOOD” PROGRAMS THAT HAVE PROVED A DISASTER IN EUROPE.

Posted by: Jimbo | July 9, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

“You can make an argument that the president is a pragmatist. You make make an argument that he is a realist. But you cannot make a serious argument that he is a moderate.”
posted by the phony moderate . ..
Well in fact Borneo did make that very argument and provided some context.

Posted by: danita | July 9, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

THE ONLY WAY ANY STIMULUS PACKAGE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IS TO STIMULATE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE. IT IS ONLY PRIVATE ENTERPRISE THAT CAN CREATE ECONOMIC VALUE WHILE PULLING THE CART THAT ALMOST EVERYBODY ELSE IS RIDING IN.(The cart keeps getting a lot fuller with each additional government program).
THROWING MONEY AT MAKE WOK JOBS AND PROPPING UP STATE GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IRRESPONSIBLE IS JUST BLOWING INTO THE WIND AND WILL ONLY SADDLE OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WITH TRILLIONS IN DEBT.

Posted by: Jimbo | July 9, 2009, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Is the Stimulus Working?
Is this a trick question??
;-)

Posted by: drjohn | July 9, 2009, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Danita, I think Borneo makes a good argument that Obama is a pragmatist. However, Obama is a pragmatic liberal. Is there something wrong with that?
To say Obama is not a liberal is to ignore much of his foreign policy emphasis (nuclear disarmament, for example) and his approach to domestic economic policy (throw government money at it) and to social problems (get the government more involved).

Posted by: moderate | July 9, 2009, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

If there was any one message that defined the Obama campaign from the beginning, it was his promise to rise above the petty politics of division and unite the country. … If we are to come together as a nation once again, conceived in the thought of liberty, then let the man do his job, stop the pettiness and let congress back him up!
Posted by: Danielle Watson | Jul 9, 2009 3:59:34 PM
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Interesting that NOW you are concerned about bipartisanship and letting him do his job. You (meaning liberals) railed against us and Bush for 8 years!
If the campaign was all about reaching across the aisle, why aren’t Danita and Ryan_C reaching across the aisle to us. They have called me liar, questioned my intelligence, and worse. Where is their bipartisanship? They won, remember? Since when does the loser reach across the aisle?
The two parties are political opposites. They will never agree on major issues. The Democrats are in control of the congress and the WH. It is up to them to offer the hand of bipartisanship. I won’t hold my breath.
And if Obama is so concerned with this, why does he cut the Republicans out of the process every chance he gets.
I do not want President Obama to do his job. I don’t agree with his policies and methods and I don’t trust him. I will fight him all the way in what little ways I can. And I won’t vote for him.
Interesting that it seems the President is being more moderate in some of his decisions that don’t advance his control goals, like most of his foreign policy. And I’ve come to conclude that his “apology tour” was more of an appeasement tour so he could come home and continue to dismantle this country undisturbed.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 9, 2009, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Timmy . ..
You insult the President and his family at every occasion, you come here day in and day out to ridicule and attack the man day out, you do not take a fair nor balanced approach pointing out good points and bad, you simply smear and attack, and you spout extreme right wing garble non-stop without a second thought. Nice reaching out. Again – you live in a fantasy world if you think this is how bridges are built.
You create your own world.

Posted by: danita | July 10, 2009, 12:38 am 12:38 am

While I don’t agree with Traffic Cop completely – Obama is our president and I hope he provides wise leadership, I must say the Traffic Cop is spot on, on his analysis of Obama. Obama is a globalist and socialist and has no understanding or appreciation of what has made this country the most productive, prosperous and generous country in the world. Democracy, capitalism and the Judeo/Christian ethic are three major factors present. Obama is destroying this great nation. I think that it is through his ignorance rather than intent. I could change my mind on that.

Posted by: Jimbo | July 10, 2009, 6:05 am 6:05 am

I HAVE BEEN IN ACADEMIC SETTINGS WHERE THERE WERE LOTS OF “OBAMAS.” VERY NICE PEOPLE WITH GOOD FEELINGS AND INTENTIONS TOWARDS OTHERS. PROBLEM WAS THAT THEY NEVER GOT BEYOND ACADEMIA IN THEIR BELIEFS. MOST PEOPLE EVENTUALLY ACQUIRE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WORKS, HOW IT WORKS – AND WHAT DOESN’T WORK. SOME DON’T ACQUIRE THAT UNDERSTANDING AND I HAVE TO PUT OBAMA IN THAT GROUP.

Posted by: Jimbo | July 10, 2009, 6:22 am 6:22 am

Danita, no offense but when you write “…you do not take a fair nor balanced approach pointing out good points and bad, you simply smear and attack…,” you actually describe your own comments towards President Bush.
History will certainly be a lot kinder to President Bush than how the Left continues to portray him. Ironically, President Obama has seen some of “the light” and has continued some of the Bush policies that he (then candidate Obama) and the Left railed against.

Posted by: James Danley | July 10, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Nice reaching out. Again – you live in a fantasy world if you think this is how bridges are built. You create your own world. Posted by: danita | Jul 10, 2009 12:38:33 AM
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Actually, danita, if you could find my first few posts you would find that they were fairly tame. Then I experienced the likes of you, jhm and Ryan_C piling on so I struck back thinking “ok, if this is how it’s gonna be on this site, I’ll act like they accuse me of.”
I might have reacted differently if you had responded to my first few posts by “reaching across the aisle” – as Obama would want you to. borneo for example, and some others, have been relatively decent and I have tried to react in kind and apologize when I am wrong.
As far as my view/comments about Obama, I share many of the same opinions about him as others. You react the way you do because you disagree with me and you and others like Ryan_C are determined to drive opposing opinions off this site. I know you say you are fighting the lies and smears but that is only part of it.
My opinions cannot ALL be wrong or misguided but you attack every one of them. You literally search me out on this blog to ridicule me with your sarcasm. So I have responded to you in kind.
I’m sure you think you know all about me but none of us on this blog really no anything about each other – just what we choose to reveal. I’ve revealed a few things about myself that are actually true. But you have already formed your opinion of me so you are blind to these. Your constant harping on me about “tell me more about the rapture” is one example. Until the moderators started removing your taunts, you did it every chance you got. You assumed I was some sort of religious extremist or something because of one off-handed remark I made weeks before. This was your version of an honest and open discussion?
I still say that “your team won” and it was up to you to make the first effort. You did not. Because of others, you made assumptions about me and the rest is history. In my opinions, you are a poor example of Obama’s Hope and Change.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Truth is he has no respect for this country and what it stands for.Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 9, 2009 1:59:59 PM
What makes you think that Obama doesn’t care about this country? Posted by: borneo | Jul 9, 2009 2:50:28 PM
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borneo, I’m going to try to express my views of President Obama. Obama grew up in an entirely different world than I did. It appears to me that he never got a sense of the “good” history of this country, other than what he read. His experiences are understandably viewed through a different lens than mine. I’m not sure he has ever tried to “see” the America that I and many others know. He is almost apathetic about it. For him, it’s just a place to live – just another country among many. I never see him express any passion for it.
I don’t think Obama wants to experience the America I know. He is comfortable with what he knows and doesn’t want to upset his ideology. He’s got us all compartmentalized and doesn’t care to disrupt that. This may be conscious or not. I don’t know.
Obama has made up his mind that these wrongs need to be made right. He wants to level the playing field and redistribute wealth. He assumes that they don’t deserve their wealth, they have more than they need anyway, and they probably screwed someone somewhare to get it. So it’s “only right.” At times, it is good to level the playing field – many injustices need to be addressed. The problem with wealth is you can’t just give people things. They won’t appreciate it and will most likely squander it away. If people work hard to earn their wealth, it will mean much more to them and they will be much more vigilant about how they spend it.
So I guess that’s some of what I mean when I say he doesn’t respect America. I hope I have expressed this clearly and I hope you read this and respond.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am

To add to what Traffic Cop Timmy stated, I would not consider someone who was mentored for 5 years as a teenager by Frank Marshall Davis (a known Communist); who later studied under the principles of Saul D. Alinski (a known Communist); and then spent 20 years listening to and being mentored by the radical Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., a moderate.

Posted by: James Danley | July 10, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Ironically, President Obama has seen some of “the light” and has continued some of the Bush policies that he (then candidate Obama) and the Left railed against. Posted by: James Danley | Jul 10, 2009 10:38:59 AM
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Interestingly, Mark Steyne has his own take on this. Obama could care less about any of the policies that do not specifically give him control of the country. He doesn’t care if he supports them or not, breaks a promise or continues Bush policy. And he ignores any blowback that may occur.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

I think Obama is doing a real good job.
He refuses to allow my nation to be held hostage by big oil and corporations who have enjoyed tax breaks and failed to provide job growth.
President Bush had a 1% growth rate after catering to the wealthy, making a bigger divide between classes than at any time in my country’s history.
He’s made mistakes and he’ll make more during the next seven and one half years.
He did a good job with th apology tour, after Bush turned the world against us with the ignorance that is Iraq.
President Obama was not saying he was sorry for America, he was telling the world that he was sorry that we had a policy and administration like lil Bush’ that nearly crushed our economy and and tried world division.
Wow, I am glad to see a prez who actually thinks America has a future.
And, I’m glad to see the moaning and crying from the republican party.
I hope that during each of President Obama’s eight budgets that he’ll continue to raise taxes on the top 1 and top five percent of earners.
I suggest that we make fat-cat raises mandatory.
I like to hear the crying republicans, I really do.

Posted by: vanhoopcoach | July 10, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

You fat-cats go get ya checkbook!

Posted by: vanhoopcoach | July 10, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Vanhoopcoach wrote: “I hope that during each of President Obama’s eight budgets that he’ll continue to raise taxes on the top 1 and top five percent of earners.”
First of all, based on the latest IRS statistics–2006–the top 5% of the nations wage earners are those making at least $153,542. So to raise taxes on the top 5% would (again) break President Obama’s promise that those making less than $250,000 would have no tax increases–”not any of your taxes.”
The wealthy changed their spending habits due to then candidate Obama’s rhetoric. And look at how many jobs were lost because of that rhetoric. When Congress actually raises the income tax on those making at least $250,000 even more jobs will be lost. So will it really please you to have consistent job losses for the next eight years? Punishing the wealthy will actually hurt the middle class and the poor even more. If you continue to overtax those making over $250,000, eventually many will chose to no longer make over $250,000. That will result in even less revenue for the federal government, which will in turn mean less benefits for the poor.

Posted by: James Danley | July 10, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Is VP Joe Biden a foreign policy expert?
The answer to both questions is a
Resounding No!
This disasterous bill which was rushed
through Congress without giving anyone
a chance to read it five months later
is a failure.
Unemployment has gone from 8 percent
before the stimulus to 9.5 percent and
climbing.
Hardly any of the 787 billion dollars
have been spent.
What happened to the “shovel ready”
projects?

Posted by: reaganfan | July 11, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

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