Kyl: ‘No Chance’ Health Reform By August

The Republicans do not want reform. They want a system which will put the most possible money into the pockets of the health, insurance and drug companies. Looked at the Medicare Drug Plan they passed under Bush. It had a big donut hole and insurance and drug prices skyrocketed after the first year. It was written by the industry.
Reform will provide good health insurance for the uninsured and under insured. It will deal with people who are excluded because of pre-existing illness. It will deal with rescissions, cutting off paid-up plans when someone gets an expensive illness. I was just reading about another example of that on the KC Star editorial page today.
Congress has the best public option health insurance plan available. Why don’t they just vote to let all of us but into that. To do otherwise is to treat their constituents as dirt.

As usual the republicans will do anything to keep the health insurence companies and drug company CEO and boards of directors get there 12 million a year saleries and there by keep the republicans that have there wives on these boards getting the kick backs. Im not just ranting either do some research yo will find out that the republicans are getting millions in there pockets to keep things just the way they are. After all the people that voted them into office cant make them rich.

“the longer it hangs out there, the more the American people are skeptical” – Yes, I agree. The longer the Republicans put this off the more skeptical I am that the GOP will do the right thing for the American people. Why are the Democrats bothering with trying to negotiate with the them? I am no Democrat, but the longer the GOP leadership plays politics with this crucial issue – the better the worse they look.

i can see why some people would be skeptical of a national program. The current medicare program is 50 trillion dollars in debt and they take a nice chunk out of my paycheck. (thank god its not attached to our national real debt) If people think this national program is going to be free, i laugh at them. Its going to come out of all of our paychecks just like medicare.

“emotional venting is repugnant and, if done at all, is best done in private.” – If anything folks havent gotten emotional enough. America has the lowest life expectancy and infant mortality rates among technologically advanced countries. People are dying because of our healthcare system doesnt that make you angry? Instead we have politicians playing ideological games. Sure we got to make the numbers work but what about throwing a little compassion into the mix too?

Correction on my last post: I meant to say the U.S. has the highest infant mortality rate among technologically advanced countries (I guess I was getting a little too emotional!).

One of the false analogies that republicans like to indulge themselves in as far as universal signle payer healthcare; the fact that they would essentially be trading their current private healthcare premiums in for payments on universal single payer healthcare and, if implemented as in Canada and Britain, no bill when they leave the hospital.

“Socialized care is practiced in Canada and hence they have a much higher death rate for things like Breast and Prostate Cancer” – Where do you get your stats? According to the CDC and thw WHO the Canadians have higher life spans and lower infant death rates than we do. Those stats correlate with good quality, accessible primary care. Primary care detects and treats heart disease, diabetes and other preventable illnesses. If fewer folks are dying of the preventable conditions that means more live to succumb to illnesses that often do not respond to treatment, such as cancer. Epidemiology is a complicated field. I appreciate your attempt to use data, but its important to analyse the data before cherry picking “facts” to back up your arguements.

I love how Kyl’s so sure about himself, as if the GOP had anything left. Power, credibility, potential. Their party is a laughing stock.

I don’t believe this should be rushed. But we do need healthcare reform. Absolutely.
3 out of 5 bankruptcies are caused by medical bills. Thousands who do not have insurance clog our emergency rooms to get care for minor issues.
Don’t people realize that we are already paying for those people with increased premiums?
This needs to get done and a robust public option needs to be part of the plan.

Most Republicans are better off than Dems financially…Essentially they have rather good health care THEY CAN AFFORD IT….Moreover, if they own stock with Empire, or US Healthcare, or HIP etc they get a dividend off the government as is, since those companies make most of their money off MEDICAID AND MEDICARE….so for Republicans there is really no point in moving on…even if the health care system does collapse for the rest of us, the way they see it, they save on taxes, and when the weak amongst us dies, they get to hire the stronger for less than they paid the guy who died. You see the ordinary people of our nation must begin to understand that the REPUBLICANS SIMPLY CARE FOR THE UPPER CLASSES, THE PRIVILEGED…the rest of us are LOSERS AND SO WE MUST PAY FOR OUR LOSSES WITH OUR VERY LIVES. TO THE REPUBLICANS LIFE IS A LOTTERY..THE WINNER GETS EVERYTHING, THE LOSER GETS NOTHING….THIS REALLY IS THEIR PHILOSOPHY…

You cant just give a free total package to all Americans. Not only is it a recipe for financial disaster, it encourages the welfare-state kind of mindset that we have gotten way too involved in already.
What I feel we need to do is very much like France has done. We need to provide some basic-level of services to everyone. To go beyond that, you either need to pay on your own (either out-of-pocket or with supplemental insurance). Those who cannot afford anything would of course get federal subsidies. We then add to this – a large dose of health industry regulation. Insurers have to take everyone at the same costs, and keep those costs down by capping their profits. The health industry itself could be forced to cap billing rates at certain levels, etc. To counter that, we would increase our support of medical school expenses, etc.
What I don’t want to see is a system where there are people scrambling to get something for nothing that they have the means to pay for. That has become the “American way” in the past 30-40 years and has got to stop. You can’t pay for everyone’s coverage if they can afford to pay for it themselves. Its just wrong. Conversely, you cannot expect a small group of individuals to pay for everyone else’s coverage either.
This is a complex issue and needs far more time for debate and thought that Obama wants it to have. Like everything else, he wants this done “fast and dirty”. Well, the American people deserve better than that. It takes time to overhaul a system. I am totally clueless as to why Congress doesn’t opt for incremental reform each year. Why they have to design everything from scratch all at once is beyond me!

“REPUBLICANS SIMPLY CARE FOR THE UPPER CLASSES” – I share your frustration, but I think most Republicans are good folks who are just trying to do what they think is best for their families and their country (remember that half of all Republicans support a public option). Now the GOP leadership is a different story. From what I have seen in regards to this healthcare reform debate the GOP politicians seem to be putting narrow ideology above the health of men, women and children. Its very sad.

“I am totally clueless as to why Congress doesn’t opt for incremental reform each year. Why they have to design everything from scratch” – Actually they are suggesting incremental change. If they were to take your suggestion and have a French model of nationalized healthcare, that would probably take starting from scratch. What they are currently proposing is very modest, but the corporations and their proxies in Congress are so intent on keeping their profit margins high they oppose even small changes. Who loses in all this? The folks who are literally dying to get medical care.

Lets see here.. Durbin says that 3/4′s of Americans are covered by a PUBLIC PLAN already and wondered on TW why everyone cannot have that choice.
The Medicare Trustee released a report this year that Medicare will go BANKRUPT in 2017 if not sooner. Medicaid is hitting state budgets big time. Do we really think the Government can run a public plan. If so, they shoudl first fix Medicare to make it solvent and introduce their cost savings with IT and outcome procedures in Medicare first.
Many of the best doctors do not accept medicare. My parents found this out when they joined Medicare and had to find other doctors.
The public plan is wrong and is not needed at this time.

What are the other ways of introducing more competition to the insurance market? How come Congress has not explored these?
It seems that the congressinoal leadership and White House came with the idea that health care reform is a single payer big governmetn burecracy.
This does nto sound like what Obama promised when he was going to extend coverage to many and allow those that are happy with what they have to mainatin it.
This is not the CHANGE we need!

“Many of the best doctors do not accept medicare” – Unless your private plan is one of those high premium, “boutique” plans your private plan also limits which doctors you can see. As far as Medicaid effecting states financially – in this economy EVERYTHING is effecting state budgets whether its the prison systems, parks or highway construction. This is a good reason why we need a national health plan so your healthcare is not dependent on which state you happen to live in.

Impeach Kyl – his is evi to the core

The citizens have really got to keep the heat on our elected representatives to keep this alive. This issue needs to stay on the front burner. I saw a Bill Moyers program on this issue Friday and it was a real eye-opener. The private insurance companies really need to be confronted. They are actively working to sabotage what is happening. Sen. Kyle’s comments are parroting of insurance company memos on the type of language (‘rationing”, “bureaucrats making health care decisions” ) they are using to frame this debate.
I also think the people have to realize that we are all going to have to pay something to make this work. Ideas of pushing to whole expense onto the wealthy are absurd. If all the people benefit from something, all should be willing to contribute a fair share to make it happen.
Be sure to write or call your legislators and the President to let them know where you stand on this issue.

“No, Republicans like Kyl do not want reform. They belong in the company of those who wish to see the Obama agenda fail. It’s time we see them for what they are–obstructionists, period.”
LOL! Obstructionists? Democrats control the executive and legislative branches. They have the numbers to ram through whatever they want. Seems to me the real problem is the PARTY OF YES.
Oh, and Obama will definitely fail, but it’ll have nothing to do with Republicans. It’ll have more to do with mind-numbingly stupid liberal economic policies that are currently accelerating job losses. Enjoy the Change!

i have a question.since when did health care become a right? when did it become the responsibility of the govt to provide healthcare? nowhere in the constitution is it indicated.

Compassion and empathy are simply not profitable for American Health insurance companies.. Companies that do not meet profit expectation will lose investment capital. These companies, therefore, drop folks who are not profitable if at all possible. Excessive scrutiny which may reveal unreported cases of acne can result in dropped policies. Required self reporting puts consumers into the role of expert testifiers. Miss a detail and your health and very life may, can, and will be put at risk. Tobacco executives testimony before congress was on display this week in the guise of health insurance company executives. Just put on the invisivision glasses and poof…all the images of sick and dying Americans just disappear. No concern. Darwinism, “survival of the fittest” in action.

“when did it become the responsibility of the govt to provide healthcare?” – Good point, but please realize that the constitution also does not give you the right to drink clean water or breathe clean air. Most Americans believe the government has a role in insuring those rights, just like the right to health care.

SBA said: “3 out of 5 bankruptcies are caused by medical bills.”
Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is highly doubtful. I’ve been a bankruptcy attorney for over 12 years and maybe 10% of my cases involve bankruptcies due to medical bills. The vast majority are credit card-related (huge amounts of overspending for their income), but I’m now seeing a lot who are dealing with Option ARM loans resetting and the larger payments are putting them under (even when they’re still employed).
Very few of my clients ever have a budget or emergency savings. When these folks are hit by some financial shock like a job loss and can no longer get credit to pay their bills, they come to me. Financial education might have helped them but health reform? Not so much.

By watching the GOP over the last 7 months, I am convinced that they really don’t care if we get real comprehensive healthcare reform by August or even in the next year… The longer they can hold it off, the better for them, or so they think.
Keep in mind that Health care to the GOP mind set is not a right, it is a Privilege for the privileged…
Look at the way the GOP has performed since this last election. They have taken a definite stance of opposition to anything and everything the President has promised.
They care only about themselves and the lobbyists that support them… not the average working stiff that can no longer get insurance through their employer and couldn’t afford to use it when they had it…
Its up to the Democrats to pass a comprehensive healthcare reform they will have to take up the slack and get the job done…

“Name ONE government program that is well-managed.” – OK, the CDC, the U.S. Public Health Service and the Coast Guard. Now try this one: Name one national private insurance company that provides good quality coverage to folks with pre-existing conditions at a reasonable price.

AS REAGAN ONCE SAID “GOVERNMENT CANNOT SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS – GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM.” CONTRARY TO MUCH LIB BELIEF, THERE ARE MILLIONS OF US REPUBLICANS WHO ARE NEITHER FAT CATS OR BUSINESS OWNERS, WHO TRULY BELIEVE THAT OLD SAYING “THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS LEAST, GOVERNS BEST.” THIS GUIDES OUR POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY.

Funny…what do we need insurance for???? Just give health care to anyone who needs it…including illegal aliens…deadbeats who live unhealthy lifestyles and fat stupid lazy people who sit on the couch eating junk food…
insurance isn’t necessary if you are going to provide healthcare…in fact, just cut out insurers altogether, and the money saved would go a long way to help taxpayers bear the burden of free healthcare to all….this is what it really means…reform…Obama just wants to liberalize it for the trailer park trash who refuse to work….hope this stirs up you liberals who think govt. should provide everything from the cradle to the grave….might as well, they already have to give home loans to those who can’t afford them…GM autos will be next…free food would help too…

Obama and the Democrats do not want real reform. The insurance companies have proven they can’t be trusted with our health, yet Obama’s agenda keeps these companies in control of the system, and would even force consumers to buy their product (the so-called “mandate”). Maybe, if we’re lucky, the Democrats and their insurance industry backers will throw us a few crumbs in the form of the ill-defined “public option.” What a disgrace that Obama is squandering his historic mandate by capitulating to this unscrupulous industry.

Kyl is clearly looking at the obstructionist calendar…The congress, UNDER DEMOCRATIC CONTROL, does NOT function by this demagogue’s schedule any more.
Kyl and his buddy Cornyn have nothing better to do than try to raise money by selling republican LIES, then it’s time they retired since they bring NOTHING to the table.

Anyone who thinks that conservatives are in favor of a public option is delusional.

The republicans say they want health care reform ONLY because the Democrats are pushing it. The republicans will do everything in their power to keep things the way they are. Health care for the rich only is their view.

Democrats want reform….they want to reform everything. Start with taxing the rich into the middle class. Distribute that wealth to the poor and bring them up into the middle class and then the government can regulate the lives of everyone since we will all be “equal.”
today and tomorrow it may be nice to tax the wealthy to pay the costs of the poor, but one day they won’t be able to get anything out of the rich and then they won’t have the money to pay the bills of the poor….What happens then?

Oh, and before I get reamed by everyone for being a conservative nut, I voted for Obama. I had hopes he could pull our country together and get things settled in Iraq, but his spending is way out of control. Why can’t his administration look at countries that over spent and over taxed their citizens and see what happened. It does not work. We need to hold off on any sort of healthcare reform until our economy stabilizes. Let’s be responsible and reasonable is all I am asking.

IF WE CAN ONLY LEARN from looking at current models, we have Medicare going broke, and Medicaid and Schip which are free care subsidized by tax payers. They cost billions in fraud and abuse and are run inefficiently. A government option will dictate reimbursements to providers, (which is already being reduced again in Medicare) so possibly providers whose patient loads are primarily covered by Medicare and/or Medicaid need to see as many patients (or ration) as they can to stay afloat. And now we want to create another government entity like that? The costs projections are not absolute, and the government option cannot guarantee even with the astronomical costs that it will cover all the uninsured. Has anyone talked about reform to the insurance companies? Restructing so that they compete better to drive costs down without the government option? Mandate they cannot cancel anyone after illnesses, refuse anyone with pre-existing conditions, and cover the folks who fall through the cracks. The government could give the insurance companies tax incentives to cover this uninsured group. There is room for reform, but a government option will be another large subsidized black hole in our economy. And the first thing the white house, senate and congress should do is automatically sign up for any public option they ask us to pay for – mandate nothing for the people you will not mandate for yourself.

Kyl does not represent the average American, so what he is really saying is there is no way it will be done by August if any of his wealthy constituents will be required to cough up .01% of their millions to do it. He’s a typical Arizona corporate tool and, unfortunately, my Senator.
Gauston in DC,
That would be a concern if this really was a ‘rush.’ Plans for healthcare reform have been in the works for decades. It’s not the careful planning that is lacking, it’s the political will to actually implement a plan.
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You do not represent the average American either. You represent the lazy people that do not want to work and just looking for a free ride. You need to spend a year in England and a year in Canada under their plan and then you will see what Obama wants for you.

It’s time to end the phony baloney parasitic republican created HMO markets. They eat up almost almost half the money spent on healthcare pushing billing. GOP will suffer big time for standing in the way of fixing healthcare The good news is, 18 more republican senate seats on the ballot in 2010. The bad news is we have to wait until November of 2010 to send more of them packing.

“Republicans very much want reform but not on the backs of the American people with the kind of taxes and potential rationing of care that would result,” (Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz)
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I would have to agree with Senator Kyl (Republican from AZ)…. LOL.
Let’s finance Health Reform the same way the Republicans financed everything else during the past 8 years of Bush/Cheney…. by borrowing to pay for it and increasing our National Debt even more.
The National Debt increased during the Bush/Cheney years from $5 TRILLION to $10 TRILLION, and we ONLY paid $451 Billion in INTEREST ONLY on the National Debt during FY 2008….. (almost equivalent to the annual Department of Defense Budget).
We can surely afford to tack on more to our National Debt, just like the Republicans did during the past 8 years. What’s another $50 Billion in interest payments this year…. not a problem!

“We all know that privatized insurance has been an abject failure too and you make a good argument for why we need a national health plan – the states cant handle it either.”
Mark from atlanta,
Are you on dope? Who is “we”? Hell, we would all love to pay $100 or less per month for complete coverage anywhere in the country. No decudtibles, no limits on treatments or anything. It’s a great DREAM, but thats all.
While what we have may not be the best system, it is the only one I know of that has provided for the vast majority of Americans. It has hardly been an “abject failure”. The number varies around the 87-88 %. That means over 300 MILLION people are part of it. Is it perfect, Hell no. But what on earth makes any rational person think that turning this over to the gov’t is REALLY going to give us a better system? Lower costs…EXACTLY HOW? no pie in the sky pipe dreams…but details..PLEASE!!!!
You libbies were out here crying for years about no exit strategy in ?Iraq. How about a DETAILED ENTRY strategy if we think we are gonig to turn over healthcare to the gov’t?
Dems, are whining…whining…and whining even more. Shut Up already! …If the Dems & libs had the b@lls, they can make this thing happen without a single Republican vote. So, the real question is , if this thing is the “answer” to all our healthcare issues, WHY dont the Dems just PASS IT ALREADY???
Answer… BECAUSE ITS NOT !!!! AND THEY ALL KNOW IT!!!
ALL…and I do mean ALL the rrhetoric from anyone…Left, Rehight & Center is useless without the details! Simply passing some Blob healthcare bill only passes the problem onto some foolish committee where the people will have no idea what the final outcome will be.
Force the Congress to produce a plan that results in a sheet of paper with coverages and premiums that each and everyone of us can use to compare with our current insurance or any other plan currently available.
If we do not do this, the only absolute about this plan will be that we the Taxpayers will get hosed AGAIN!

What President Obama needs to do is take away health insurance coverage for ALL our representatives and start them from the bottom…….where we are now, and see how fast health care gets fixed. We should have the same health care that our representatives have PERIOD!

Thank you for your input. I wasn’t necessarily saying that we should have the same heath plan congress has now. We all should be under the same umbrella, everything being equal. Maybe I should have made that more clear. If congress were on the same level that most americans are on health care wise, the bickering would be at a minimum and everybody would be covered at an affordable rate. If that includes public option, so be it.

js45601 – I think that Congress is on the “same level” (as you call it) as most Americans. Their employer (the federal government) pays a portion of their health insurance as a benifit of their employment. You will find that the larger the employer the healthcare offered is ususally less costly to the employee. This is primarly due to the fact that the employer is able to get a better package for the employee due to the larger pool of employees who will be covered. In the case of the Federal Government due to its size they are able to offer a range of plans to their employees.
I don’t look at the Congress as having any better healthcare package than any other American as it is through the employer who through the sheer number of employees is able to offer several packages to choose from.

Let us look at this issue rationally: there simply is no constitutional support for the notion of taking money from one group of citizens and forcing them to pay for medical insurance for another group. Just try to imagine the reaction of our founding fathers to that proposition during the Constitutional Convention.
The idea of yet again attacking those who have greater earnings may be politically easy, but it is a form of tyranny. Taxation ought only be used insofar as is necessary to provide for the common defense of our nation or to support those elements of society which directly contribute to us all (roads, schools, etc.) and which require a national effort because of the scale of the project. Medical care, however, is a personal, one-on-one relationship that requires no such national effort.
Make no mistake, what is being proposed is greed and envy, no different than street theft, a forced tax payment from some to give a benefit to others which they could equally provide for themselves if they worked for it and if they planned their futures as carefully as we have.
For those who feel it is appropriate, feel free to contribute from your own pocket, but for me and my family we only want to be left alone and we will provide for ourselves.
You likely can predict this, but I could care less what you think of me, that is if you think I am “hard hearted” or selfish. I actually think I am supremely fair minded and it is those of you on the left who are playing selfish games. Leave me out of this nightmare.

Unless your private plan is one of those high premium, “boutique” plans your private plan also limits which doctors you can see. — posted by Mark.
On the contrary, insurance companies can not stop you from seeing the doctor of your choice. If your doctor is not covered by their plan, you can still go to that doctor, but the insurance company will only pay their allowed amount (say $45 for an office visit, but your doctor charges $70 for each visit) — the patient simply pays the difference.
In our current system, cash is still accepted at doctor’s offices and hospitals (that may end soon) and lots of people do use cash to fill in those areas that insurance does not cover. Medical savings accounts allow people to set money aside tax-free for medical care.

so, Senator Kyle,you would prefer to keep the status quo: millions of Americans die because they can’t get a private plan due to pre-existing conditions and/or cost. You would rather them all die of their illness than fix the system. I just want to be clear.

am burke:
The issue is who pays for this. There is absolutely no justice in forcing me to pay for your insurance. Pay your own way and stop mooching.

I want healthcare reform and need it because I don’t have healthcare. It is crazy, just crazy to think that it could happen by August. I want good, solid healthcare that benefits all of us, not reform that just benefits Obama.

I just wanted to express a few thoughts about Health Insurance:
1.) No More DEBT: Any insurance program must be 100% PAID for. We cannot afford to put America in any more debt.
2.) Proper Funding: Any insurance program must be properly funded. Any time the American govt. plans a program it is ALWAYS underfunded. The savings that were planned are never realized (just look at Medicare and Medicaid). We must properly fund the system.
3.) How to Make Insurance Affordable: One of the biggest issues is how to make it affordable. We should create a public program for the chronically ill people. IT is the chronically ill people that are increasing costs for everyone else. If we take them out of the system…the other 90% of people can afford the new and much lower rates. (Insurance companies must agree to lower rates dramatically, especially since their costs will drop dramatically without the chronically ill people in their system.) We’ll just have to face that we will have to pay for this group of people for the rest of their lives.
4.) No Compete Clause: By having only the chronically ill people in the govt. program, there is no competition between a public program and the private insurance programs. We need to preserve the capitalistic system we have…public programs don’t work! The capitalistic system is the best in the world, that is why everyone comes here, the questions is how to make it affordable.
5.) Simplify the Type of Programs: Insurance companies have to create separate companies and policies for each state, because each state has different requirements of what needs to be covered. This is a waste of money. Make 4 or 5 simple NATIONAL programs that cover everything.
6.) Punish Irresponsible Parents/People: Every state has low cost insurance for children etc., yet parents don’t enroll their children. People will buy cell phones and cable TV and $5.00 coffees, yet they won’t buy insurance. People who are not responsible need to be penalized (Just LOOK how many people weren’t ready for the TV conversion!! Even though…they had OVER ONE YEAR to get ready…people still weren’t ready. People like this need to be pushed into doing what is right.)
7. Reward Good Behavior: Car Insurance rates are affected by your behavior…why not health insurance? If you smoke, are overweight or don’t go for your yearly check ups….you should pay more because these are preventable. (I would not add too many things to list except these simple preventable items.)

This is beginning to remind me of the small child who keeps bugging his or her parents for ice creame only to get it to find it was the wrong flavor. We need the correct flavor, lets slow down and get it right the first time. Mr. President how long did it take you to get a dog????? Some of us will die in the mean time and that is Ok because or children and grandchildren will have a better medical life plan. Also please tell them when it will really go into effect.

People are worried about the stability of dollars, i.e. high inflation, high tax, as a result of over one trillion dollar federal annual budget deficit and tens trillion dollars national debt due to years of overspending by government.

I would like to see a list of all the things we could agree on.
It hurts me to think there are people who will not or cannot go to the doctor or hospital because they do not have insurance. Especially children. For all the people who argue about health care reform, I want to know how many are ok with children, poor people, and non employed people not having access to medical care.
The real first question is should the people of this United States that are born to a contract called the The Constitution of the United States expect something in return? You are law abiding even if you do not work or have high intelligence or ambition. It makes me more comfortable knowing that law abiding people get the minimum needs for health and survival. It’s better for all of us.
I wish Democrats and Republicans would cut to the chase and not argue about who screwed what. Or how it’s going to be paid or who is in charge. First admit what seems morally right. Are you OK with people who deserve health coverage not having it? OK, thats probably 20 Million. Is it OK that if you are not covered with a health plan because you do not have a job or cannot afford it that you may lose everything you own and your quality of life. My guess is a lot of people who are scared of socialized medicine, and big gov or taxes might actually agree on the core concepts. Maybe not, but that’s what I want to hear. What is it you believe? I want more people to be healthy and happy around me. Even if my taxes are used for it. Especially if my taxes are used for it. We need to set our priorities and expect our taxes to be managed. Who cares if the roads are free of pot holes and the illegals are invading if you are sick and your children are sick and your friends are sick. Health trumps all.

Republicans simply don’t want to loose the lobby money they get from health care. It is a myth to insist that a private option will have the government making health decisions for us and not our doctors. Who do you think makes those decisions now? The big insurance companies. We won’t be losing control of our health care, we will be making it available to all like any other civilized nation does. We are the only ones who have to suffer this way. Thanks GOP!

As for the earlier comment by proud conservatives related to liberals. How do you explain giving the people who can most afford to pay taxes the biggest tax breaks. Explain that to me! It sure made no sense to offer tax incentives to ship jobs overseas. All that helped was the wealthy, not the country. Maybe I don’t get it. Sure would like an explanation.

You people and your LIBS vs Rep….they are all the same. Each and every one of them has an agenda with people in the back pocket waiting for payoffs…they vote the way they do to GAIN themselves or GAIN for the people who gave him the most money or helped get him elected…anyone who does not see this is out of touch. The whole lot of them would stab you and I in the back if it served them well.
I am a conservative. I disagree with SOME Liberal CITIZENS and what I believe to be lazy..”what can America do for me??” attitudes..and their desire to save whales before human lives…That is where my LINE is drawn…Not in politics…
We should question everything coming out of the mouths of these double talkers…

Healthcare reform is not Republicans vs. Democrats issue. It is what it is “partisan bickering”. Meaningful reform must not impede on the principals of our Constitution. Congress and every American should take the time to read the Constitution and consider the advice of our Founding Fathers. Then reconvene to state our opinions.

Let us all STOP THIS – and TALK SOLUTIONS.
1. TORT REFORM, 2. REFORM/FIX MEDICARE, 3. REFORM/FIX MEDICAID, 4. ENFORCE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION LAWS ON BOOKS, 5. STOP NAFTA, 6. STOP CAP & TRADE.
OUR PRIORITY SHOULD BE JOBS. LET’S HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO – BUY AMERICAN – THIS WILL BUILD AMERICA.
SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN 1 YEAR – REMEMBER THE ‘BAILOUT’ – HASTE MAKES WASTE.