Jul 10, 2009 8:05am

‘My Cousin In Kenya Can’t Get a Job Without Paying a Bribe’: Obama Tells African Leaders to Get Their Houses in Order

ABC News’ Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report:


L’AQUILA, ITALY — In a meeting this morning with the leaders of Egypt, Algeria, Senegal, Nigeria, Libya and Ethiopia, President Obama spoke about his personal connections to both Africa and poverty, and according to a top White House aide, “you could have heard a pin drop.”


After describing a food security initiative that the president and other G-8 leaders have been working on, the president talked about development and the importance of governance.


“He shared a personal story,” said deputy National Security Adviser Michael Froman. “Everyone knows that his father was from Kenya, that he still has relatives living in poverty, and that while he’s President of the United States he feels poverty in a very personal way because of this of his family situation.”

Froman recounted that the president shared that when his father, Barack Obama Sr., came to the United States from Kenya, Kenya’s GDP was higher than Korea’s.


“Obviously much has happened since then and he wanted to make it clear that the problems that Africans face weren’t just a product of colonialism or past history,” Froman said, “that this partnership — whether it’s over food security or other development ideas — require local governments to take responsibility seriously. This wasn’t a time to make excuses. And that it was important to join together in a clear-eyed way.”


As the president put it, Froman went on, “his cousin in Kenya cant find a job without paying a bribe, and that’s not the fault of the G-8. And when companies can’t operate without paying, in some parts of Africa, without paying the 25 percent fee off the top in bribes, that’s not colonialism.”


The president said, Froman said, recounting from his contemporaneous notes, “that it is important to think about people on the ground who are focused not about who’s at fault on how to survive in Africa’s situation but are focused on how to survive and succeed and provide for their families and in that context he emphasized the importance of transparency, openness, and efficiency.”


It’s important, the president told the African leaders, that development programs are implemented so they “reach people who really need them, that the assistance actually gets to the farmers and the farmers benefit from this. That was the point he made. You could have heard a pin drop in the room. Several following speakers noting that they thought it was a very moving remark and thanked him for sharing his personal story with them. And I think it helped define the seriousness of the discussion and the importance of the subject.”


In a press conference following the meeting, President Obama acknowledged the remarks. “The point I was making was that my father traveled to the United States a mere 50 years ago yet now I have family members who live in villages, they themselves are not going hungry but they live in villages where hunger is real. And so this is something that I understand in very personal terms. And if you talk to people on the ground in Africa, certainly in Kenya, they will say that part of the issue here is the institutions aren’t working for ordinary people and so governance is a vital concern that has to be addressed.”


By bringing up the example of South Korea, the president said, he was trying to make the point that “the South Korean government working with the private sector and civil society was able to create a set of institutions that provided transparency and accountability and efficiency that allowed for extraordinary economic progress. And that there was no reason why many African countries could not do the same.”


– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

Stop meddlin, Mr. President.

Posted by: Scary Caterpillar | July 10, 2009, 8:16 am 8:16 am

and Obama says Bush was arrogant!!!

Posted by: mj | July 10, 2009, 8:24 am 8:24 am

And Pres. Obama is doing such a GREAT job with Americas’ “house in order”?

Posted by: Mphilly | July 10, 2009, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Now there’s the pot calling the kettle, “black!” Maybe his cousin was applying for an open Senate seat.

Posted by: inked | July 10, 2009, 8:33 am 8:33 am

all of the above comments are just plain and i think all of them have never set foot outside their towns obama is not meddling that is where his father is from Kenya so he has part of kenya in him so he has a right to discuss it if he feels the need to I love him for remembering where he is from cause most hypocrites would have distanced themselves from where they from so to all u fake people get a passport and travel see the world and I dont mean from your comcast cable.

Posted by: sheila | July 10, 2009, 8:35 am 8:35 am

Ever hear of a period (.) or a sentence? What about grammar and spelling? Thank your liberal, Democrat, public school educators for that.
Waive your flag of ignorance all you want, it shows the true colors of Obama supporters.

Posted by: inked | July 10, 2009, 8:39 am 8:39 am

I think he’s saying something honest.
I think this is a very smart way to point out that corruption is normal in Africa.
At least it seems he cares — In the past, we just let people starve, and die.

Posted by: Sam | July 10, 2009, 8:41 am 8:41 am

In the U.S. we call making a bribe to get a job “union dues”.

Posted by: dennis | July 10, 2009, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Obama is totally right on this. Im from Kenya (living in USA) and a majority of our leaders have totally failed us. Corruption, Nepotism, Ethnocentricity, poor governance etc, Africa has vast resources and a large educated and young labor base and all these are not harnessed due to poor governance. what a waste!!!!!

Posted by: Joseph | July 10, 2009, 8:42 am 8:42 am

“And Pres. Obama is doing such a GREAT job with Americas’ “house in order”?” Hey Mphilly – the discussion was about helping people other than yourselves – sure we’re not perfect but that doesn’t preclude us from helping those in need.
“and Obama says Bush was arrogant!!!” – MJ – it’s not arrogant to speak of his family – if you had a relative in a bad situation would you turn your back on them? Sounds like YOU’RE the arrogant one to me.
“Stop meddlin, Mr. President.” – to you Scary Caterpillar – stop “meddlin” in what? stop helping people? or only help the people that look like YOU do? or stop being charitable to those less fortunate? stop giving? boy, you’re a real warm hearted person aren’t you.
the POINT of the G8 is to get everyone to do their part – the alternative is to just go it alone – like Bush did when he decided we should invade Iraq. there’s your arrogance, that’s part of the reason our “house” isn’t in order, and that is pretty much the pinnacle of “meddlin”, isn’t it?

Posted by: Iowan | July 10, 2009, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Obama spoke the truth; the problems with Africa stem from government-sanctioned bribes against their own people and against outside agencies and businesses trying to help them. The emotional thing is to blame all the woes on colonialism but they are in charge of their own destinies now and there is no excuse. It’s going to take time to root out the corruption and oppression perpetuated by those who claim to govern but it has to begin now.

Posted by: David Adams | July 10, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am

The whole world knows that the African continent is very rich in minerals etc. Then why are these countries so poor and their people subjected to such sub-standard living. The word is ‘corruption’, mas corruption to the highest level and poor leadership. These leaders should bow their head in shame instead of wasting money on attending submits etc. Nothing wull hepl them.

Posted by: lj | July 10, 2009, 8:55 am 8:55 am

“…his [Obama's]cousin in Kenya can’t find a job without paying a bribe,…”?
That’s nothing new but that’s the Obama way to get a and hold a job in the US. He and his pondents are using that very same system by rewarding the union workers for their bibes.
Give me a break. Moronic talk is Obama’s trade mark.

Posted by: Werner Strasser | July 10, 2009, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Obama was right, but never will he tell European countries the same. He is a punk and always picks on weaker nations.

Posted by: nubiangent08 | July 10, 2009, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Big O spoke the truth. In one year these African leaders will see Obama not as a black US President but just another US President.

Posted by: afloatinasea | July 10, 2009, 8:59 am 8:59 am

You don’t “feel” poverty Mr. Obama, you live it. So you have relatives living in poverty in Africa? I have relatives living in poverty right here in the U.S. who have lost their jobs due to the falling economy and can’t find new ones. Telling other nations to “Get their houses in order” sounds so ridiculous coming from the someone who can’t stay home and iron out his own nation’s problems, who surrounds himself with people who don’t have a clue and who evidently is totally classless when it comes to living in the White House. The Obamas may be educated, but obviously have no common sense.

Posted by: anna wu | July 10, 2009, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Speak loudly and hide that very small stick.

Posted by: LongEz | July 10, 2009, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Sam, you’re starting to make me cry.

Posted by: LongEz | July 10, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Nice that he is objective…good start to solve problems…his trip to Ghana is a great start…India, the worlds largest democracy is doing well now, still a way to go (population explosion)but the resources of the people as far as brain power is enormous…dedication and hard work to education…Ghana may or can achieve that same level of success…

Posted by: phallon | July 10, 2009, 9:08 am 9:08 am

I am so happy to be able to have the President of my country speak with intelligence, passion, heart and soul as he travels abroad or at home.
The whiners will always whine and continue to amuze me with their asinine comments that only confirm that their head is so far up their arse.
We are a leader once again of the free World!

Posted by: NickO | July 10, 2009, 9:12 am 9:12 am

What a guy, talking so tough and not being able to
change conditions that were created in this administration. All those sob stories coming out as needed! And bribes being taken in Kenya to get a job?
Not much different from here is it, either you promise retribution or you hire relatives and friends ( even though totally inexperienced)

Posted by: 2smart4u | July 10, 2009, 9:16 am 9:16 am

“…his cousin in Kenya can’t find a job without paying a bribe”
“Maybe his cousin was applying for an open Senate seat.”
I actually thought a Union or upper level ACORN job.

Posted by: Chi-town Hustler | July 10, 2009, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Iowan: Obama DID turn his back on is relatives. Where have you been the last year and a half? He’s not being “charitable to those less fortunate”, he’s just being his usual “do as I say, not as I do” self. If he was truly so interested in helping his poor family members, then why has a man who was, and may still be, worth millions, just now gotten around to being concerned about his dear cousin in Kenya who lives in a hut??!!?? Furthermore, there’s an old saying that goes, “Charity begins at home.” Maybe that’s where he should’ve started from the very beginning.

Posted by: Aaron | July 10, 2009, 9:20 am 9:20 am

I live in Buffalo NY and have worked at City Hall for 3 decades and you don’t get anywhere unless you pay here too!

Posted by: tom | July 10, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Obama’s cousin in Kenya can’t find a job without paying a bribe?
This tells me how this sensitive president feels for and cares about his relatives and what his obligations should be. He should be ashamed. It’s easy to feed the public sab storries to avoid using his own money to aliviate this condition.
If one feels the regressive “progressive agenda” needs to be advanced nothing prevents one from spending their own money. Using public funding does not reflect Obama as being honest but as selfish.

Posted by: west129 | July 10, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Wait a second. I thought Obama’s “cousin” Odinga had a pretty cushy job! It is his brother who was living in the slum and fighting daily for survival (at least as reported by British newspapers.) Now I know that after visiting Odinga (even sort of campaigning for him) that Obama now says that Odinga is not his cousin (though Odinga claims it) due to the ethnic violence after his campaign, so what cousin is Obama talking about? And why can’t Obama let this cousin live with his dear auntie Zuminga in the USA?

Posted by: Ed | July 10, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am

===and that while he’s President of the United States he feels poverty in a very personal way because of this of his family situation.”===
Someone ask Obama how that school is coming along that he promised to help build where his relatives live. He feels the poverty in a personal way because why? What exactly has he done personally to help his poor relatives? Tell Michelle to forego the $500 sneakers and send the money to a poor relative.

Posted by: Axey | July 10, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am

The Chinese entrepreneurs in Africa may be a smart model for others to follow.
Some of us simply do not have that courage necessary to start something on our own.

Posted by: warren currier | July 10, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am

This is especially ironic since Obama comes from the cesspool of Chicago politics where pay to play is business as usual. Is he completely tone deaf or just clueless about how this comes across to the many people who spend all day, everyday applying for work here in the United States, only to be told that no one is hiring. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious.

Posted by: Batly | July 10, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am

My Uncle wanted to apply for a Post Office job in a certain small town and was told to re-register as a Republican if he wanted to get it.
People in my county, between Baltimore and Annapolis, often campaign for politicians so they can get a hard-to-get job with the fire or police departments.
What’s new?

Posted by: The_Mick | July 10, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Many of you seem confused about the purpose of the G-8 Summit. It’s a time for the world’s leaders to address global issues. And government corruption in Africa (as well as in Mexico and many other places) is an issue that matters to all of us. Most of the nations of Africa (like Mexico) are blessed with incredible wealth in natural resources. Yet they are poor due to corrupt governance. That is an issue that can be fixed. Look at the difference between the economies of North and South Korea. You can’t even compare the standard of living between the two. It can be fixed. Governments must adhere to the rule of law, stop tolerating corruption, and concentrate on providing education and governing for the benefit of the population, not for personal gain.

Posted by: Wanda | July 10, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Gee, just like trying to do business in New Mexico.

Posted by: ken | July 10, 2009, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Why doesn’t Obama just give the poor cousin in Kenya five bucks a day out of his many millions???

Posted by: Smurfys Law | July 10, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am

I think now more American are becoming fools than wise me, i guess the era America produce more wise youths are gone as i read from this blog i notice that we Africans are now more intelligent that average American. i am a Nigerian but i suffer in oversee country today because of the corruption cause by our ex military president Ibrahim Babangida and his former friend ex president Olusegun Obasanjo who organise the world record worst presidential election in history of mankind, today i can agree that Nigeria can produce over 30 million internet scammers just because we lost our way as a nation due to bad corrupt leader. i am also a scammer out of hunger and fustration

Posted by: Iloghalu peter | July 10, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am

I think now more American are becoming fools than wise people, i guess the era America produce more wise youths are gone as i read from this blog i notice that we Africans are now more intelligent than average American. i am a Nigerian but i suffer in oversee country today because of the corruption cause by our ex military president Ibrahim Babangida and his former friend ex president Olusegun Obasanjo who organise the world record worst presidential election in history of mankind, today i can agree that Nigeria can produce over 30 million internet scammers just because we lost our way as a nation due to bad corrupt leader. i am also a scammer out of hunger and fustration

Posted by: Iloghalu Peter | July 10, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

I come from Africa and what President Obama said is true. But someone to suggest that President Obama is telling other nations to “”Get their houses in order” sounds so ridiculous and that he is someone who can’t stay home and iron out his own nation’s problems, and that he surrounds himself with people who don’t have a clue and who evidently is totally classless when it comes to living in the White House; and finally, that the Obamas may be educated, but obviously have no common sense – Posted by: anna wu”" is THE MOST RIDICULOUS and INSENSITIVE so far. First of all, you cannot and should NEVER compare Africa’s poverty with the U.S. READ what President Obama said first, pose and understand it before JUMPING to make stupid comments and very disrespectful comments about your president! Even non-believers know that we all have to respect our leaders even if we DO NOT LIKE them! Americans should change their attitude if they truly want their ECONOMY to reverse! The way you say things arrogantly will affect (and is affecting) generations and generations to come. When you think of how much animosity you have towards other nationalities (including your own President) especially immigrants, I am sure this must have angered the good Lord (after all, he created the world and everything therein) that he decided to reduce the flow of honey in the land of honey and milk!!! Remember non will live forever!

Posted by: KEW | July 10, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am

How do you think Obama got where he is?

Posted by: OHIOGAL | July 10, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am

I guess I’m not understanding why the African leaders- people who live in Africa – would be so moved by Obama’s “personal” story about how he’s visited Africa *twice*.

Posted by: MayBee | July 10, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

“his cousin in Kenya can’t find a job without paying a bribe, and that’s not the fault of the G-8. And when companies can’t operate without paying, in some parts of Africa, without paying the 25 percent fee off the top in bribes…”
The UAW (United Auto Workers Union) drove up the American car industy’s labor costs $30 per hour more than Japanese companies. The figure includes pension and health care costs for hundreds of thousands of retirees.
“As defined by the current United Auto Worker contract negotiated with the ‘Big Five’ (GM, Ford, Chrysler, and top parts makers Delphi and Visteon), an auto ‘production worker’ is a job description that covers anything from mowing grass to cleaning the toilets. In the real world, these jobs would be outsourced to $8 an hour, no-benefit wage earners, but on Planet Big Five, these jobs get the same wages as any auto line-worker: an average $26 an hour ($60,000 a year) plus benefits that bring the company’s total cost per worker to a staggering $65 an hour.
“But at least the grass cutters are working for their pay. The UAW contract also guarantees that 12,000 autoworkers get full wage for doing nothing.” StrategyWorld

Posted by: Same old, same old | July 10, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Those Kenyans should seek the advice of the campaign contributors who got posh ambassadorships for their bribes… I meant *investments*, whoops I meant ‘bribes’.

Posted by: Shaun | July 10, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am

“his cousin in Kenya cant find a job without paying a bribe, and that’s not the fault of the G-8″ aide’s paraphrase
“…the South Korean government working with the private sector and civil society was able to create a set of institutions that provided transparency and accountability and efficiency that allowed for extraordinary economic progress. And that there was no reason why many African countries could not do the same.” Obama
Where are the folks who are so fond of crowing about Obama’s “apology tours”? I guess even Rush can’t parse out the context of these comments enough to fabricate something for the two minute hate.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 10, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

KEW:”When you think of how much animosity you have towards other nationalities (including your own President) especially immigrants,”
? The US is among the most diverse nation on the planet. There is a loud racist fringe, but they hold no power and the merest whiff of association with them will hamper or even scuttle any politician’s career beyond local mayor.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 10, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

MayBee:”would be so moved by Obama’s “personal” story about how he’s visited Africa *twice*.”
Did you read the blog? His visits to Africa were in no way his story, he didn’t even mention them. Is there some other article you are referencing?
His story (framing actually, his thesis and supporting arguments revolved around the comparison of Africa with other nations and accusations of rampant corruption/bribery) was that his father came from Kenya and that he has family still living there. Many people respect that having family living in a different culture, even distant family, provides a more candid and accurate understanding of that culture and situation.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 10, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am

. Many people respect that having family living in a different culture, even distant family, provides a more candid and accurate understanding of that culture and situation.
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For some reason, I suspect the African leaders have a more candid and accurate understanding of their culture and situation, and don’t need a guy who has distant relatives on their continent to explain to them what’s what.
It’s the over-gushing white house aide I’m chuckling at, here. There’s a bit of a “some of his best friends are Kenyan!” air to this story.

Posted by: MayBee | July 10, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

The President blames Kenya’s problems with economic progress relative to S. Korea’s on ‘colonialism’…incredible.
Yet, what did the world witness in Kenya recently? Tribal violence between Kenyans.
You see, it is all the West’s fault.
The President continues his ‘apology’ tour’.

Posted by: J House | July 10, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

So what’s the difference between african leaders and Obama? Do you see any? I don’t.

Posted by: Mineko | July 10, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Perhaps the President is unaware Korea was under Japanese domination for nearly 40 yrs in the last century.
I’d say they have done pretty well under America’s security umbrella and a democratic govt….free from N. Korean and Chinese tyranny.
Kenya has been independent for 50 yrs…yet according to the President, it is all ‘western colonialism’s’ fault.
The same old leftist pith.

Posted by: J House | July 10, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

It’s important, the president told the African leaders, that development programs are implemented so they “reach people who really need them, that the assistance actually gets to the farmers and the farmers benefit from this. That was the point he made. You could have heard a pin drop in the room.
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He *could* have tried relating by telling stories about his friend Tony Rezko and his housing projects.

Posted by: MayBee | July 10, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

thr notion of obama lecturing african leaders is laughable. especially on corruption. there is a joke there, i’m just laughing so hard right now i can’t think of it.

Posted by: jim | July 10, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Sheila, I must respectfully take issue with your rant that people who criticize the president on this topic are narrow-minded provincials who have never traveled outside their own towns. At least, that was the gist of your comment, as I understand it. Your conclusion was “to all u fake people get a passport and travel see the world and I dont mean from your comcast cable.”
As it happens, because I am an academic, I have traveled extensively. However, I know lots of very intelligent, insightful, articulate people who have never traveled more than 500 miles from home. I do not disparage their opinions on Russia simply because they have not personally visited Red Square, nor do I think they have no right to an opinion on Bolivia’s lithium trade because they have never visited South America. Yes, travel can be broadening, but so can a good education, reading, watching enriching television programming and other media, even, dare I say it, judicious web-surfing.
I doubt that you have traveled to all corners of the world yourself. I know I have not. I have particular expertise on certain areas where I have spent more time. However, I know a great deal about some places I have not visited. And it has always been my contention that one cannot get a real measure of a place or its people simply by looking at current conditions. A solid knowledge of history is essential as well, and that can be obtained without world travel.
The president seems to share your vision, and I do fault him for that. He is right to say that he has empathy for the poor of Africa because he has relatives in that situation. However, it is not necessary to have experienced something or to know someone personally who has experienced it to recognize that it is wrong or to have an idea of how and why it should be corrected. For example, George Bush has been widely praised for the massive increases in HIV/AIDS funding for Africa during his administration. He recognized the problem and sought to help even though he had no particular personal ties to Africa. It was simply the right thing to do.
I think an overemphasis on personal experience can have unintended consequences. It should be balanced with other types of arguments in support of whatever position one espouses.

Posted by: moderate | July 10, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

J House:”Kenya has been independent for 50 yrs…yet according to the President, it is all ‘western colonialism’s’ fault.”
What? Seriously, did you even read the post?? Obama NEVER said anything about it being western colonialism’s fault, in fact he EXPLICITLY rejected that notion. You are blatantly lying about the documented facts of Obama’s position.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 10, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

bravo, moderate. bravo.

Posted by: MayBee | July 10, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

“… he wanted to make it clear that the problems that Africans face WEREN’T just a product of colonialism or past history,”

Posted by: jhw539 | July 10, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Sam wrote, “I think this is a very smart way to point out that corruption is normal in Africa.” Yes, I think he is saying some important and useful things about the culture of corruption that exists in some African nations. I was also impressed with his interview with an African newspaper in which he said that current AFrican leaders cannot blame all their problems on colonialism at this stage of the game.
But then you added, “At least it seems he cares — In the past, we just let people starve, and die.” I am not sure of the “we” to whom you refer. I assume you mean the U.S. I am sorry to see you have fallen into that maddening “obama as year one” thinking. Yes, Obama sincerely cares about the people of Africa. I have no doubt on that score. However, American leaders have often shown a similar concern. Think George Bush and the AIDS treatment funding. Think Bill Clinton and his groundbreaking trip to Africa, increased food and economic aid.
Yes, starvation is a perennial problem in Africa, and elsewhere in the world, but Americans have historically been quick to help when alerted to a particular problem– a severe drought, a natural disaster. We have provided tons of food and other aid over the years. Yes, it is good that Obama is concerned about AFrica and wants to help, but it is not necessary to imply that in contrast, Americans in the past have not been equally concerned and eager to help.

Posted by: moderate | July 10, 2009, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

The whiners will always whine and continue to amuze me with their asinine comments that only confirm that their head is so far up their arse.
Posted by: NickO | Jul 10, 2009 9:12:59 AM
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You are obviously talking about 2000-2008, right?

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

“He *could* have tried relating by telling stories about his friend Tony Rezko and his housing projects.”
Hey ABC! Whatever happened to Tony Rezko? On December 16, 2008, a federal judge indefinitely postponed Rezko’s January 6, 2009 sentencing. Is he rotting in a jail somewhere in Illinois?

Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | July 10, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

“J House:”Kenya has been independent for 50 yrs…yet according to the President, it is all ‘western colonialism’s’ fault.”
What? Seriously, did you even read the post?? Obama NEVER said anything about it being western colonialism’s fault, in fact he EXPLICITLY rejected that notion. You are blatantly lying about the documented facts of Obama’s position.”
Posted by: jhw539 | Jul 10, 2009 12:44:48 PM
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Well noted jhw and absolutely correct.

Posted by: danita | July 10, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Obama’s Cousin wouldnt have to bribe for a Kenyan job if the G8 allowed free and fair trade.Limited opportunities due to unbalanced trade. We can not keep talking about democracy and corruption when we talk about africa. The united Kingdom is more corrupt than Kenya.Africa needs free and fair trade not speeches on governance.

Posted by: joe | July 10, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Does his cousin know that he talks about him, like he talked about his uncle and D-Day only to find out, they never spoke to each other.

Posted by: Lizzie | July 10, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Does his cousin know that he talks about him, like he talked about his uncle and D-Day only to find out, they never spoke to each other.

Posted by: Lizzie | July 10, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

On the GDP issue .Maybe if kenya enjoyed the same trade agreements that Korea enjoys with the united states our GDP would still be ahead of Korea. Obama should not compare apples to Oranges. I am sure 50 years ago the US economy was better than Japans.But now its not.Could it be poor governance and fat cats in America are to blame

Posted by: joe | July 10, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

J House, I won’t call you a liar, as JHW did, but I will point out that you are factually incorrect, as she noted, about where President Obama identified the blame lies for problems in Kenya. As she said, not only does he not buy the “it’s all evil colonialists” fault argument, he explicitly rejected it in an interview with an African newspaper. I suggest you google or bing it and find out what he said. You did indeed get this one wrong, although I for one do not immediately assume you did so deliberately and maliciously.

Posted by: moderate | July 10, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

“there was no reason why many African countries could not do the same”
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Isn’t is more difficult to do this in Africa because of the “tribal” issue? Wouldn’t they have to abandon their tribal roots to accomplish this and become a cohesive unit? Same in Afghanistan? To my knowledge, South Korea is a solid unit.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

“Everyone knows that his father was from Kenya, that he still has relatives living in poverty, and that while he’s President of the United States he feels poverty in a very personal way because of this of his family situation.” maybe that’s why mechelle can’t afford anything more expensive that $400 Tennis Shoes and $6000 purses

Posted by: S Hunt | July 10, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

“The president said, Froman said, recounting from his contemporaneous notes”
Man, is the paraphrasing in this article annoying. It’s presumably because the article is essentially a transcript of some ABC News broadcast segment, where they had this Froman guy presented in the role of
“Our reporter who was on the scene just now giving us his right-there-on-the-scene impression of what Obama just said (did we mention we have a correspondent on the scene? In AFRICA? Woo, go us!)”
The networks love to needlessly put a journalist’s face on the screen just to show off they have someone of their own at the scene, and it looks even dumber in print.

Posted by: Jack | July 10, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

jw,
I’m not lying…watch his news conference…he was suggesting the difference between progress in S. Korea vs. Kenya was what he said it was….colonialism’s fault.
It is tribalsim, and Obama knows it…he is from there (ask his Grandmother)

Posted by: J House | July 10, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

I know he talks about transparency, accountability and efficiency in Italy but why does he forgets that his administration broke promises of the above three after he took office. It is nice to see that what I say is more important than what I do.

Posted by: ak331 | July 10, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

No wait a minute – this is the guy who keeps putting out those misspelled press releases from the White House.

Posted by: Grace | July 10, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

If he is so worried about his poor cousin that can’t find a job – why don’t he give him some of the $ Miss Michelle is spending on sneakers and purses?

Posted by: Grace | July 10, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

I’d like to point out that Korea is hardly a bribe-free economy.
Former President Roh Moo-hyun just committed suicide because he was dogged by a bribery scandal. Samsung has been under investigations for bribes.
Former President Kim Dae Jung’s “Sunshine Policy” was fueled by billions of dollars of bribes being funneled to Kim Jong Il.
Yes, its economy has been very successful, but it isn’t really the shining example of a “clean” economy.

Posted by: MayBee | July 10, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

I know he talks about transparency, accountability and efficiency Posted by: ak331 | Jul 10, 2009 2:39:44 PM
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Just because you say something doesn’t make it so. There are obvious instances where he is not open and transparent – and is just another politician. To tell the truth I wish he had never mentioned it – I’m enough of a realist to know it’s an unnatural trait for a politician.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Better yet, pay off the bribe for his cousin with the $$ she would have spent on her fall wardrobe….

Posted by: Jenny | July 10, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

I don’t know what he is complaining about. Here in Chicago you can’t get a city job without the bribe either. BHO should know that.

Posted by: Former Democrat | July 10, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

He talks about his cousin,cousin here is abstract.any african in the continent-that is,.am in kenya and citizen of the country-its true corruption is very widespread,but america wont end corruption in kenya or elsewhere in africa until they start dealing decisively with the corrupt politicians!in kenya they are buying limo’s for politicians while there are no libraries-we have to do bookdrives in america to get some reading materials for our children.all in all the president is on the right track.

Posted by: William kimathi | July 10, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

The President certainly focused on corruption and bribes as being systemic in Africa and a root cause of the failure of progress vs. S Korea…he should be applauded for it.
Be he can’t help but mention ‘that others’ said colonialism was a factor, which he won’t take exception to…
just as he did in Trinidad.
And I agree, S. Korea has plenty of bribery and corruption, as does the U.S.
If that is the case, what are the real causes of the lack of progress in Kenya?
The President knows it is tribalism, but he won’t say it.
That goes for Iraq and Afghanistan as well.

Posted by: J House | July 10, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

To moderate and jw,
I don’t comment here to spread lies,mis-quote the President…I stand corrected..he did not focus on colonialsim as the problem, he focused on corruption…but he did use that straw man in his statement, and that is a fact…
And I quote-
“…there have been some talk about the legacy of colonialism and policies of other nations and without diminishing it…”
He cannot miss the oopurtunity to remind us all of our ‘colonial legacy’, nor ‘diminish’ its importance to the suffering of the developing world.

Posted by: J House | July 10, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

There is no defending the corruption in Africa whatever levels of corruption exist elsewhere- it is where the problem is (along with tribalism and inequitable wealth distribution by the state). Kenya just released an annual budget which equates to about 280 USD per capita. Jeff Sachs and his colleagues are already showing in many Millennium Villages across Africa that an investment of USD 100 per capita in science-backed interventions can dramatically improve lives. The government has all this money and invests USD 13 per capita per year on health. What is all the rest of the money for?

Posted by: James, Kenya | July 10, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

To BradT8:
Why don’t you go and do some reading, and educate yourself about the history of Africa and the role the US and Europe has played all across the continent for hundreds of years. At that point, you may be able to answer your own question.

Posted by: pz | July 10, 2009, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

There is no defending the corruption in Africa whatever levels of corruption exist elsewhere
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No, there is no defending it, although some will by saying it is a remnant of colonialism.
But it isn’t as if African leaders don’t know there is corruption, and it isn’t as if the African people don’t know there is corruption, and it isn’t as if Americans don’t know there is corruption in Africa. Surely President Obama didn’t tell anyone in that room anything they didn’t know and hadn’t heard.
So what is the answer?

Posted by: MayBee | July 10, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Funny how Obama’s cousin cant get a job without bribery but Obama’s other cousin is prime minister Odinga.

Posted by: james opio | July 10, 2009, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

He cannot miss the oopurtunity to remind us all of our ‘colonial legacy’, nor ‘diminish’ its importance to the suffering of the developing world.
Posted by: J House | Jul 10, 2009 4:00:10 PM
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Which is why he sent the bust of Churchill back to England. I suspect it’s also why he gave the Queen copies of his speeches. He can’t resist lecturing everyone. (I bet she never listened to ‘em.)
And IMO, it’s why he is apathetic about America. It’s just another one of “those countries.” Because slavery existed in America, everything else good doesn’t matter. He sure likes to take for granted the good things that came out of it though.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

To MayBee
I am not so inclined, I’m just tired of all the problems we seem to be concerned with in Africa. Have you looked around to see the number of jobless people in this country? There are people here who cannot get a job even with a bribe. Focus on our own people. I care less about the role the US and Europe has played for hundreds of years

Posted by: BradT8 | July 10, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

BradT8 – I believe you meant to address that to pz. The little arrow thingie points to the name of the commenter, kind of like a word bubble.

Posted by: MayBee | July 10, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

JHouse, point well taken. The president does love his straw man arguments. “Some say” followed by some statement no reasonable and rational critic of whatever he wants to do would make is one of his favorite rhetorical constructs– like “some say we should do nothing about health care” (I paraphrase rather than claim to be actually quoting a specific line in a specific statement, before someone jumps on me for “lying” about what the president actually said”). Then he rambles on about how that is the wrong approach and he insists we do the exact opposite of whatever it is he claims “some” are “saying.” He does not actually address the real arguments of real opponents of his plan in these cases.
It’s right up there with his predilection for “as I have said before.”

Posted by: moderate | July 10, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

“Some say” Posted by: moderate | Jul 10, 2009 5:47:00 PM
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I believe that is how the “rates would necessarily skyrocket” controversy. It is difficult to say if he was doing a “some say” or “saying it himself.” Add in al the er’s and uh’s and you’ve got yourself a really fractured statement.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 10, 2009, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

He could improve his cousin’s financial situation 250% just by sending the $500 they spent on designer sneakers to him and telling Michelle to wear Walmart sneakers.
The mind can’t comprehend how much better off this cousin would be if they sent him the money they spent on that alligator clutch!

Posted by: MissButterfly | July 10, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

I believe Obama, Keep up with your hard line on African leaders. We Africans cannot continuosly blame our lack of progress on the past, when most of our countries have had political freedom for over 30 year. I believe the development of a country is influenced to some extend by the past governance, but with the global awareness of the tools required to make some advancement in our countries, we should make a difference by striving to install leaders who love their countries and are not narcissists and also have institutions that can allow some level of functionality that will pull us out from the quagmire that we have been stuck in for decades.

Posted by: mimi | July 10, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Well, why did Obama snub Nigerian journalists? He kept them out of a team of African journalists to vet thousands of SMS comments and questions from Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa and Senegal. Instead, Prez Obama chose journalists from the other nations and left out Nigeria.
Does he have any problem with Nigerian journalists? We need to know.

Posted by: mypunchblog | July 10, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Obama should do something for his cousin in Kenya by talking directly to the nation’s leaders. He should put pressure on African leaders to sit up or………. get out power!

Posted by: mypunchblog | July 10, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

How President Obama achieve what he want is beyond me…
But HE GETS IT and he feels IT

Posted by: Dunga | July 10, 2009, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Talk about corruption – our congress passes a bill in which 300 pages are written at 3:00 AM and no one reads it before they vote on it. That’s corruption, plain and simple.

Posted by: m vale | July 10, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

“without paying a bribe”. I hope that
Kenya doesn’t sink down to the level
of Chicago, Ill., “home” of Obama,
Rezco, Daley. Let’s hope Kenya sees
the light, and rejects Obamaism and
the political swamp that was his
playground.

Posted by: Trajan | July 10, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Also not a time to take “globalism” scams seriously. Put Americans back to work and end H1B/L1 visas. Show African how it is done and help them prosper like we used to do before the H1B and L1 visa programs forced Americans out of work and into foreclosures.

Posted by: Common Sense | July 10, 2009, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

There they may be called “bribes”, here, they’re “attachments” to a spending bill.

Posted by: Fishsnot | July 10, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Why is it that the press does not want to challenge whatever Obama says? Any High School student should be able to tell why South Korea is ahead of Kenya. The reason is simple – South Korea is very important to America and the west for security reasons. Americans have real interests in that country and the aid and assistance is quite substantial.
When will the press in America learn to scutinize Obama’s comments?

Posted by: JohnBMal | July 10, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

“The whole situation surrounding Mr. Obama’s birth certificate is starting to break loose.”
Well, something is breaking loose, but I think it is the Republicans’ moorings.

Posted by: jock59801 | July 10, 2009, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

The President is hitting the right tone. I was born in Africa and I know exactly what he is talking about. Thanks God we have a President who understands the issues.

Posted by: Carl | July 10, 2009, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

Time to hold African leaders accountable for their action and make sure they respect the rule of law and the right of the citizens including the right to elect their leaders.
I have no doubt the fresh breath Obama has brought to Africa will help asher the begining of a new Africa, a free democractic,and prosperious Africa.

Posted by: Ethio Tesfa | July 11, 2009, 12:52 am 12:52 am

His cousin can’t get a job without paying a bribe and he’s giving Africa advice to get their act together. He should be telling Chicago, Ill. to get it’s act together first. What a sanctimonious hipocrit.

Posted by: Callie | July 11, 2009, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Posted by: Carl | Jul 10, 2009 11:53:17 PM=======hey Carl. You would understand more if you had been born in Chicago, the heart of corruption in politics. They wrote the book.

Posted by: Callie | July 11, 2009, 1:26 am 1:26 am

im the same way if u can not fix starvation in America they what makes them think they can fix africa we been thier died thier helping remember when they pulled our soldiers be hind the vehicles i can thye made a movie of it remember people they care not for us let them fix thier own country good luck to them we got big problems here And may god help us all and i mean all of man kind cause if we dont change our way’s no one needs to worry do they.

Posted by: goose | July 11, 2009, 7:07 am 7:07 am

I wonder why he discussed his “Cousin In Kenya” and not his half-brother who is reportedly living on $1 per month in a shack. The President has said that “Charity begins at home…” I wonder why he doesn’t send a couple of bucks to his family in Kenya…

Posted by: Terry | July 11, 2009, 10:02 am 10:02 am

‘My Cousin In Kenya Can’t Get a Job Without Paying a Bribe’: Obama Tells African Leaders to Get Their Houses in Order
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Hey, isn’t that how a bunch of current ambassadors got theirs (not to mention all the others in Obamaworld?

Posted by: tanarg | July 11, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am

KEW:
You need not respect rotten, selfish leaders in Africa or in the United States.
Obama is a corrupt thug. I do not respect him as a person. I am not required to do so. I respect the office he occupies.

Posted by: tanarg | July 11, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Talk about bribes. What were the congresspeople promised to pass the cap and trade? How come more stiumulus money went to the areas that voted for Obama? Who will be given the energy “grants” and the healthcare “grants?” Grants is another word for bribe. Let’s clean up our own backyard before telling others how to run their countries.

Posted by: m vale | July 11, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Awww, isn’t that too bad? I bet o’l Cuz could make him a Czar of something.

Posted by: amybeth | July 11, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

President Obama is not really aware about conditions in Africa, having never lived there. In my country and probably in most African countries, bribery and corruption at the highest echelon of government is endemic, but that is not even the worst of the ills. Let me list a few key grievances: the suppression of human rights, lack of freedom to express oneself, write or demonstrate; absence of the rule of law; and, under the pretext of transparency and accountability, civil society institutions have been undermined through new repressive laws, which international human rights organizations and multilateral and bilateral donor agencies have condemned.

Posted by: zenash | July 11, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Some one here connecting H1B/L1 visa with foreclosures and calling it common sense. The reason whole world is in recession is because American banks did way too much with sub prime mortgages becoz of sheer greediness. This has nothing to do with H1B/L1 visas, on the other hand if the H1B candidates are not harassed by USCIS with their uncertainty of processing times and policies, they can stimulate the economy by spending on housing market.

Posted by: Common Nonsense | July 11, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Seems like his friend from Chicago Tony Rezko couldn’t get a job without a bribe either. But after he helped the Obamas buy that house, the work came pouring in.

Posted by: Terry | July 11, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

The H-1b visa is the called the “outsourcing” visa by high government officials in India. The H-1b visa is being used by Indian IT outsourcing companies to remove whole departments to India, thereby removing millions of U.S. jobs.
Indian IT companies are practicing discrimination, because they are not even looking for U.S. engineering candidates to fill jobs on U.S. soil, unless pressured by Congress. These companies have U.S. based workforces that are 90% Indian citizens, yet these companies say they need more H-1b visa. Ridiculous, is this so they can run more H-1b-only job ads, U.S. citizens need not apply to a job on U.S. soil?
More than 1-in-5 h-1b visa applicants are here fraudulently, they are not qualified and they are stealing a job from a U.S. citizen.
We need to stop and reform the H-1b visa program, a program that is used by foreign companies to remove millions of U.S. jobs and allow massive open discrimination to occur against U.S. citizens for jobs on U.S. soil.

Posted by: jerry yang | July 11, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Obama wouldn’t have a job either, had a LOT of people not been bribed.

Posted by: Gotterdammerung | July 12, 2009, 8:34 am 8:34 am

I’m from Kenya and i found the “My cousin in Kenya can’t get a job without Bribing comment ” really lame. I’m really tired of the lame Kenya bashing by Obama, Ghanaians and the news media. I’m from Kenya and have never bribed anyone to get a job. I mean Obama’s been to Egypt and now Ghana. Really are these two countries the best examples of democratic countries in Africa?
I mean before Kenya had the election fracas, we supposedly had many things going well for us. Ghana had a military Junta for many years. Egypt is basically a dictatorship. All along Kenya has had peaceful elections.
Ghanas GDP is slightly more than half Kenyas GDP. You can’t compare Kenya and Ghana. Ghana will probably improve with the newly discovered oil, but history has proved otherwise, especially with money hungry western companies now converging on Ghana.
Kenyan citizens both peasants and the huge Kenyan middle class should be praised for not allowing Kibaki to get away with his election theft. The killings that happened were mostly instigated by the government. Govt soldier shot at innocent citizens demonstrating the election theft. How is the assertiveness displayed by Kenyan citizens a bad thing?
Don’t get me wrong guys killings happened which were wrong, but they were instigated mostly by the government soldiers and govt sponsored gangs shooting at innocent citizens. Revenge killings were mostly done by bitter citizens who were mad at the govt killing their tribal members especially Luos and Kalenjins.
I also believe avoiding Africa’s most important countries and visiting Ghana only wasn’t wise for him. Why avoid problems or problem states( Nigeria, Kenya or South Africa), which by the way some of the most important African countries?

Posted by: Al | July 12, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Americans already have their jobs back! HB1 visa holders have had to leave/those who are eligible and are highly qualified are finding it impossible to get any employer to hire them due to the backlash and TARP. So, if Americans are unable to find new employment, as much as I feel for them, they need to find some solution rather than find another scapegoat.
However, this is what I have to say: If Americans want all foreign workers out of their country the same should apply to Americans living in foreign countries. Companies in Singapore, Tokyo, Hong Kong, mainland China and London should all revisit the Americans on their payroll. Most locals in these countries working in IT or in financial institutions are all highly educated from the best schools in the world and have comparable skills to Americans. Furthermore, for the countries where a second language is necessary many Americans have not learned the local language whether it is Japanese or Chinese. (I have yet to hear of a H1B visa holder who cannot speak, read or write English). Job offers extended for Americans in all those countries should be rescinded. Americans can all go home back to America and then take the jobs that have been vacated by the H1B visa holders. Unfortunately there are thousands of Americans working in the countries above so the positions vacated by the H1B visas will not be sufficient to cover them. I am sure all the Americans in America who are clamoring for the H1B visa program to be terminated can clearly explain the logic to their fellow Americans coming home. It should not be a one way street. If Americans treat foreign nationals in a certain way the way the respective foreign nations treat Americans when they are in a foreign country should be along the same lines. America is a great place to work for an ambitious person but so is the rest of the world and what seems to escape most Americans is that there are thousands of Americans living and working in a foreign county on a work visa granted to them.

Posted by: hb1 | July 12, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Rather than commenting on jobs taken by Indians by IT companies, Americans should make a self assessment. Is you current generation or youth capable just now of filling up the positions that Indians work. Current American generation is struggling just to learn calculus and math, how can a employer give them jobs when you have a better option and that to at less cost. At last companies look at their profits. I would also like to say that does these H1 people don’t pay taxes to US government, No IT companies has a dream to come to this country and setup their offices here but are your engineers capable enough to maintain the products that you buy from India.
E.g. If xyz bank buys “Finacle” which is a financial software product by a renowned IT company in India and after the product is purchased the banks don’t even know to or have engineers that can make a proper setup of core banking then its obvious this IT company from India have to support the bank for which they will need Visa to send their people to US. These companies send them via L1 visa or get H1 if the project is going to take more time.
After All this the Workers in US are so DUMB that they don’t even know how to operate this software’s which in India even a school kid can use. For this they need tech support, These Dumb people call call Centers in India and after this US people will say Call Centers are shifted to India and We should stop Outsourcing. Its a common saying in India a 26 years old American is same a 6 years old kid in India. They both have the same intellectual power.

Posted by: Kaps | July 13, 2009, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

Sounds like Illinois, Mr President!LOL!

Posted by: reaganfan | July 13, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

I am Kenyan. Its about time Africa is not judged by what is happening but by how far we have come. Fact; Congo has never had peace because the only stable president it ever had was assassinated by the CIA (President Patrice Lumumba). Africa was left to burn look at Rwanda, Sudan….even intervention of apartheid was delayed & the USA just became interested in Africa after it was China was really interested. Bottom line UN Human Development indicators are improving for most African counties and that is an improvement. We still have a long way but we are heading the right way democracy is improving, corruption is decreasing and US help to Africa is not detectable. China have genuine help and we have faith we will prevail.

Posted by: Kenkinax | July 13, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

H1B and L1 Visa holders suck the american economy. These folks need to be banned in america. Instead they should open more doctors from other countries to enter into us.
H1B and L1 Visa holders don’t buy any american products either. They just buy every thing from the Indian Stores. from Soaps to Groceries.
These people sleep on the floor. Outwardly they come dressed nicely to work. But Inward if you go their apartments they live like 8 folks in one apartment. Never clean apartments. Their apartments stick. As no body like to spend money on any thing. The sleep on the floors. All the momey they make they transfer to india
The money they make is completely transferred to india. and most likely be invested in indian rea estate.
The people fool americans by posting messages like ” without h1b folks america is into dungeon”

Posted by: A US Citizen | July 14, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

ban all H1b and L1 Visa holders from the Governent contracts. Most of the IT jobs in federal Government are filled by these folks. Which the senators disagree.
All federal Goverment agencies need to reveal how many h1b and l1 visa’s they hold including sub contracts.
The OPM(Office of Personnel Management) does not want to reveal the H1b and L1 Visa holders as they are afriad that Americans very be mad.

Posted by: A US Citizen | July 14, 2009, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Yes that’s right Indians do live on floor because these is a scientific reason for that. Sleeping on plain floor will never cause back pain. You dumb Americans you will never know this and that’s the reasons you have worlds most disables(Please check it). Secondly, We live 8 people in one apartment because one reason is Indians are not raise to live Introverts like Americans. We would never like to be sick and take medical help just because of being alone. Check that most of your citizens get a pet just so that they don’t feel alone in homes.
We do transfer money back to India because that is our right to do it, after We pay taxes as much as your government demands from our work money/salary. First of all your employers hire us just because we are oke to work on low salary. After that your government asks for taxes(Still its ok), now you have problem with us sending money back to our country. What does your country wants then? Slaves? We Indians are the people who live with pride and not like beggars and so we save money for rainy days. American live on Credit and this is the main reason you are facing such recession. Have you ever heard of Indian company affected or firing employees due to recession. That’s called best economic strategy. Your senators do know the impact on USA not having Indian IT workers or workforce. Tell me honestly what does USA produce on your own? Beer? or prostitutes? We Indians are self independent for the basic things like Food, Shelter and clothing we don’t need USA for that. But think of the recessions you had in USA before, there were problems getting a single bread for US citizens.
See how many times you have been hit by recession and how many more times you will be having recession just because of dumb Americans. Now check if India is in Debt of USA or viceversa
We all other countries are paying you guyz money so that you can party hard on weekends, but things are not going to be same always.
Some facts: 2020 India will be the youngest country in the world, that means India will have the majority of its population between 20-35 years of age. With each Individual learned the best knowledge in the world including Business,tech, science, agri anything. This will increase the productivity of India much more times than any country has ever seen in the world till now. Major Work will be in Technology, IT, Medicine. But still we Indians(according to our good culture and upbringing) do not consider others inferior or our self superior and will strive for the best of mankind be it working for NASA or ISRO we will have our people go places just for good of the world.

Posted by: Kaps | July 15, 2009, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Indian companies are bribing the US Senators to keep the H1B.
H1B Folks stealing US Projects into India. Especially people working for
Cognizant, Satyam, Infosys, TCS, Wipro
These companies must be banned from doing business in US. Most of the federal Government Agencies are filled with H1B IT Folks. These people from a differnt country should be working in our Government. H1B Folks Steal confidential data as OPM Does not clear them properly as most of these folks have fake experiences. OPM does not verify experiences posted in india. Most of them are fake any way. This whole H1B program and L1B programs should be banned from our society

Posted by: A US CITIZEN | July 17, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

H1B folks steal confidential US projects into India.

Posted by: A US CITIZEN | July 17, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

There are over 3,500 operatives in the US masquerading as students or on H1B visas [special work visas] for the sole purpose of getting jobs in American manufacturing or defense industries for the sole purpose of stealing secrets

Posted by: US Citizen | July 17, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Look, most of the Kenyans I know are very hard working people. They have done the very best to make sure that their kids go to school and get the best out of nothing. I come from the Rift-Valley. The land is very fertile and accessible to all farmers. The problem in Kenya is not the common fox, it is the politicians that have just distroyed the country. The fameres in my area wont plant enough groups anymore to sell in the open markets because the government regulates the prices and the farmer does not break even at the end of the year. It cost about $50 to buy a bag of fertilizer but the end result,the farmer will sell his harvest for less that $50.
There is no drought in Kenya, the politicians are using it because they want the money to missused.

Posted by: sammy | July 22, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Seems like his friend from Chicago Tony Rezko couldn’t get a job without a bribe either. But after he helped the Obamas buy that house, the work came pouring in.

Posted by: philippine call center | May 6, 2010, 3:47 am 3:47 am

Sounds like a fantastic idea. I am willing to pay any HR person out there $10 grand to make sure I get hired (and not fired) for at least two years. I am going to start putting it at the top of my resume.
As Al Capone said “You can get a lot further with a smile and a gun, than you can with just a smile.”

Posted by: Pigbitin Mad | November 18, 2010, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

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