Note: ‘It’s Time’ — Leadership Critical in Health Care Debate
By RICK KLEIN Consider us educated — since we’ve been taking notes. We’ve learned that settled law looks different depending on where you sit. We’ve learned that nobody really wants racial and ethnic politics to air out on national television for a week. We’ve learned that there’s no way to ask too many questions about two words in an old speech — and no way to really explain what those words meant, anyway. And we’ve learned to be skeptical of signs of legislative progress — even when they’re pre-cooked for media consumption. (There’s always that danger of falling flat.) This is moving the ball, but whether or not we can just blame the camera work, it’s hard to see where it’s going to land: Health care is advancing on the Hill, but that’s not necessarily the same as progressing. The House bill now exists (with holes, and questions about price tags that Blue Dogs will still answer). One Senate version of the bill will get out of committee Wednesday (though the other, more controversial portion is still to come). It sets up a critical phase in the health care debate. Democrats have sought to use the illusion of momentum — agreements with stakeholders, white papers and reports, press conferences and press releases — to move toward the real deal. Now they’re starting to pass some legislative marking points: committee votes, actual bills, real details. If this doesn’t produce consensus toward the votes that count, what will? The Democratic National Committee is among the entities that doesn’t want to find out. Organizing for America is picking up its lobbying efforts — and, in a strategic shift, focusing on moderate Democrats in a new round of TV ads, even more than potential Republican pick-ups. “It’s time,” declares the new ad that urges viewers to contact their senators (particularly if those senators include on-the-fence Democrats). “We’d like to do it with the votes of members of both parties,” White House senior adviser David Axelrod tells Bloomberg’s Ed Chen. “But the worst result would be to not get health-care reform done.” (And will he get more active in the details? “I can’t guarantee whether his sleeves will be rolled up or not,” said Axelrod.) Time for a stronger hand? The Washington Post’s Steven Pearlstein dials 911: “There are moments in the life of any important policy debate when things hit a dead end. There aren’t any easy answers, any options that don’t involve real political risk. And it’s at those moments when you discover who the real leaders are. We are at just such a moment with health-care reform.” President Obama seeks to keep the momentum going with remarks on health care from the Rose Garden around 1 pm ET, part of the White House strategy to encourage (without bullying) allies on the Hill. It must be time for TV interviews, too: ABC News Medical Editor Dr. Timothy Johnson is among those interviewing the president at the White House Wednesday to talk health care reform. (The interview will air on “World News with Charles Gibson” and on Thursday’s “Good Morning America”; look for additional clips at ABCNews.com and on other ABC platforms.) Judge Sonia Sotomayor returns to her hot seat (plus her notepad) at 9:30 am ET. Plus, it’s a big Hillary day: a 1 pm ET speech at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington. Meet the new, new Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. Think this rolls up the sleeves of the other side? “House Democrats on Tuesday unveiled sweeping health-care legislation that would hit all but the smallest businesses with a penalty equal to 8% of payroll if they fail to provide health insurance to workers,” Janet Adamy and Laura Meckler report in The Wall Street Journal. “The House bill, which also would impose new taxes on the wealthy estimated to bring in more than $544 billion over a decade, came as lawmakers in the Senate raced against a self-imposed deadline of this week to introduce a bill in time for action this summer.” “To help pay for the new plan, the bill would slap a new surtax of up to 5.4 percent on those with incomes of more than $400,000 a year,” per ABC’s Jonathan Karl, Avery Miller and Sadie Bass. “ABC News has learned Senate Democrats are considering something entirely different — new taxes on health insurance and pharmaceutical companies. The new taxes could bring in more than $100 billion, but were hotly opposed by the health industry.” “A majority of Americans, 58%, supported increasing income taxes on the wealthy to pay for health care, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll found this week, but some experts say a less popular but broader tax tied to health care spending could be more sustainable over time,” per USA Today’s John Fritze. Cue the moderate D’s: “Tax is a four-letter word” with voters, said Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., per The Washington Post’s Lori Montgomery and Ceci Connolly. “I don’t think it’s going to go anywhere in the Senate,” said Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., per the Los Angeles Times’ Noam M. Levey. Cue the editorials: “Pretending that ‘the rich’ alone can fund government, let alone the kind of activist government that the president and Congress envision, is bad policy any way you look at it,” The Washington Post editorial reads. Cue the president: “We’re out of money,” President Obama told the Fox broadcasters last night (in reference to a proposed bailout of the National League, but in a quote that’s easy enough to apply to another context). (The NL still hasn’t won one since before Obama was a state senator.) Timeline: “Senior Democrats in Congress and the White House said they are growing less concerned about passing a bill before the break, and argued that Senate Finance Committee approval would send a strong signal that health-care reform can be achieved this year,” the Post’s Montgomery and Connolly write. If not now . . . “I won’t say it isn’t going to happen. But it will be awhile before the stars are in proper constellation again,” Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., who knows a thing or two about how long this can take, said on ABCNews.com’s “Top Line” Tuesday. What could stop it? “Party leaders have a long way to go — in a very short time — before Pelosi, Dingell and the rest can say they’ve achieved this long-sought legislative landmark,” Politico’s Patrick O’Connor, Carrie Budoff Brown, and Chris Frates report. “The Congressional Budget Office threw up a barrier almost as soon as the bill was introduced Tuesday, estimating its cost at more than $1 trillion.” “The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), the trade group of the pharmaceutical industry, said it won’t support the bill because of changes in the Medicare Part D benefit, which it said would constitute a tax increase on seniors,” per the Washington Times’ Jennifer Haberkorn. House Republican leaders rally opposition: At 10 am ET, Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas, ranking Republican on the Joint Economic Committee, will give a presentation for GOP leaders on the structure of the House Democrats’ health care plan. The chart they’re trying to make famous on the House floor and their districts is HERE. Outside action: Health Care for America Now today is releasing a new ad campaign to thank members of Congress — including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn. — for “being champions of real health care reform.” Also being thanked, in print ads: Representatives Bruce Braley (IA-1), David Price (NC-4), Mike Michaud (ME-2), Chris Murphy (CT-5), Allison Schwartz (PA-13), Adam Schiff (CA-29), Jane Harman (CA-36), and Loretta Sanchez (CA-47). Sotomayor answers her critics: it was a “rhetorical flourish,” it was a “bad idea,” it “fell flat” — and one wise Latina knew how to cop to it. She’s no Chief Justice John Roberts, and the day was a little rougher than her handlers expected or wanted. But with a vote margin like this, she doesn’t have to perfect. “During her enforced silence, Judge Sonia Sotomayor has been portrayed as a woman of passion. Her speeches, endlessly dissected in the weeks since President Obama nominated her to the Supreme Court, reveal a fiery Latino pride. Her colleagues say she runs a ‘hot bench,’ ” Sheryl Gay Stolbert writes in The New York Times. “That was not the woman on display here Tuesday.” Is she a “terror on the bench”? “Sotomayor explained that she gives lawyers appearing in her court ‘an opportunity to explain their positions on both sides and to persuade me that they’re right,’ and noted that the judges on her court, the U.S. District Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, have a reputation for peppering lawyers with questions,” ABC’s Ariane de Vogue and Theresa Cook report. “During the line of questioning, Sotomayor, 55, responded in measured tones and frequently looked down to her table to take notes.” “Whatever Sonia Sotomayor does to reward herself — a glass of wine, an ice cream sundae, a bubble bath — surely she must be giving herself a small pat on the back after surviving her first day of cross-examination by the Senate Judiciary Committee without any kind of gaffe,” Time’s Jay Newton-Small writes. “A wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not know that a gaggle of white Republican men afraid of extinction are out to trip her up,” Maureen Dowd writes in her New York Times column. “If anything, actually, Sotomayor has shown herself to be even more conciliatory toward the Republicans going after her than is the pragmatic president who nominated her,” Salon’s Mike Madden writes. “For the most part, though, the very nature of a Supreme Court confirmation hearing keeps anything too substantive from being discussed. . . . If her patient, unruffled testimony Tuesday is any indication, Sotomayor appears to play that game as well as any of her predecessors.” “The nominee and her questioners know that her confirmation is a sure thing unless she makes a dreadful mistake during the hearings — and the cautious Sotomayor was in no danger of doing that yesterday,” Dana Milbank writes in The Washington Post. “The street-smart Supreme Court nominee served up each personal memory to put a human face on her record through the first day of questioning — a largely gentle probe of her views on the hottest controversies in the law, from guns to abortion,” James Gordon Meek writes in the New York Daily News. “Confession is good for the soul — and for your chances of being confirmed,” Newsweek’s Howard Fineman writes. Working at (and in) the margins: “Republican aides worked through the night, Tuesday into Wednesday, studying the 108-page transcript from Tuesday’s hearing. They believe Sotomayor told a variety of stories, none of them entirely truthful, to explain her series of infamous ‘wise Latina’ speeches,” Byron York writes for the Washington Examiner. “And they question her efforts to distance herself from the work of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, on whose board she served for twelve years in the 1980s and early 1990s.” Finding meaning: “Something broader and less obvious is going on as well: Republicans also are using the Sotomayor nomination to advance the broader indictment they are developing against President Barack Obama, which is that he and his administration are much further to the left than they claim to be,” Gerald F. Seib writes in his Wall Street Journal column. Curtain-raising Secretary Clinton: “Eclipsed by a globe-trotting president, a foreign policy-savvy vice president and a bevy of special envoys, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is struggling to re-emerge this week as the Obama administration’s diplomatic heavyweight,” the AP’s Matthew Lee writes. “Clinton was set to deliver what aides billed as a major policy address at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington on Wednesday. A day later, she heads off on an around-the-world trip.” The Washington Post’s Al Kamen: “Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton kicks off her worldwide ‘I’m Ba-aack’ tour today, starting with what’s being billed as a ‘major policy address’ at the Council on Foreign Relations here. She’s then off tomorrow on a week-long trip to India and Thailand.” Watching those relations with Congress: “With $108 billion in International Monetary Fund loan guarantees in jeopardy last month, White House economic officials begged, cajoled and cut deals with Democrats to secure passage of legislation boosting the fund’s power. Days later, President Barack Obama announced he wasn’t bound by any of the agreement,” Jonathan Weisman writes in The Wall Street Journal. “The ensuing flap over the president’s June 24 signing statement is the latest in a series of clashes between the White House and Congress over an issue Mr. Obama once fought against himself: presidential fiat.” House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass.: “It’s outrageous. It’s exactly what the Bush people did.” On the stimulus — now it’s a problem if money is spent too fast? “Community groups and agencies could be overwhelmed as they receive millions of dollars from a $5 billion stimulus program to make low-income households more energy efficient, some state officials and members of Congress warn. Some of the groups have been faulted in the past for mismanaging thousands of dollars a year in federal aid,” per USA Today’s Matt Kelley. In New York, waiting on Andrew Cuomo’s numbers: “Gov. David A. Paterson’s campaign pulled in at least $2.3 million during the first half of the year, a slowdown from the pace he reported in January, a campaign spokeswoman said Tuesday, who added that the Senate stalemate led him to cancel nearly a dozen fund-raising events,” The New York Times’ Danny Hakim writes. “On Wednesday, when official results are filed, political observers will be comparing Mr. Paterson’s filings with those of Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, who many Democrats believe will run for governor in next year’s election.” Tracy Sefl, a Paterson campaign spokeswoman: “With the Senate crisis hopefully behind us, or at least abated, he’s eager to return to a full fund-raising schedule. . . . He wasn’t in the position to wake up every morning and do a fund-raising breakfast.” It’s Congresswoman-elect Judy Chu in California, set to become the first Chinese-American woman to serve in Congress. “Since the May primary, when Judy Chu defeated Gil Cedillo for the Democratic nomination, she has been considered the heavy favorite. Tuesday’s vote counts mimicked voter registration in the district, in which Democrats outnumber Republicans more than 2 to 1,” per the Pasadena Star-News’ Rebecca Kimitch.
The Kicker: “People always say I have the ability to turn people on.” — Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, as a protestor was hauled away during Day Two of the Sotomayor hearings. “Congratulations, I’ve been a big fan for a long time.” — President Obama, to Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter, who allowed that he’s also been a fan of the president.
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With 9%+ and rising unemployment, how does adding to the cost of employment with these new healthcare mandates encourage job creation? Does Congress and the administration just not see the big picture or do they just not care?
Posted by: bct | July 15, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Yeah you would think they would want to get a better handle on the economy before adding more debt but hey… we can always print more money.
Posted by: JMW1824 | July 15, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am
On the healthcare deal – It’s fine for those fat cats in Washington (and that’s as nice as I can say it) to say we need this health care – it’s like comparing the chicken and the egg to the pig and ham….When they say they will vote for this but they’re not getting the health care themselves? Why not? I don’t see how we, as the American public can let them do that. When they are ready to go on the health care plan(and this includes the Presdient and his group) – well then – bring it on. And while we’re at it why can’t they get Social Security like we do? At least we don’t screw up the country like they have…
Posted by: artinthewild | July 15, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Obama’s program is a sure way to make our first class medical into a third class system. The costs will go out of control just like MEDICARE. This is a Socialist plan that is a disaster waiting to happen.
Posted by: Byron | July 15, 2009, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Doctors think they have the right to be rich. Hospitals have too much duplication of high priced equipment and pop med facilities. Medical care cost have skyrocketed because of the same prevailing culture of greed that brokers, bankers and boards had tanking our economy. Get real, congress is a part of the problem not the solution. Throw the rascals out and elect real people that have the courage to do what must be done to give all the people equal and adequate medical care.
Jimmy Mac
Posted by: jmczzz | July 15, 2009, 9:17 am 9:17 am
wake up folks, each of us are already paying for the healthcare of the uninsured, in addition to paying double the cost of with half the health care coverage of any developed country… talk about a bum deal…get some perspective folks.
Posted by: indithinker | July 15, 2009, 9:19 am 9:19 am
It’s insane to suggest that “socialized” medicine is “a disaster waiting to happen”, when every western European country that has it (which is every western European country) has a longer life expectancy and lower costs than we do.
Posted by: gary | July 15, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am
think about it…when you add up what you pay per month in income tax, soc sec tax, state and local tax, property tax and then what you pay for health insurance (and yes that is a tax as well – cause you are paying to cover the uninsured)….we pay far more taxes than any western country! so who are the socialists – and what exacty does “socialist” mean?
Posted by: indithinker | July 15, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Kudos to Byron for his comment. I agree fully with it. My prayer is that all the people that want socialized medicine so badly (socialized medicine is what it is no matter what pretty label you put on it) go live in countries where socialized medicine exists and live there for a year or two then compare the two systems. Then these people could at least talk more intelligently about it effects. The government has proven through Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security that it can’t handle government running socialized medicine. We’ll all be broke and don’t look to the liberal democrats to admit they did anything wrong, they’ll just blame President Bush, Christians, Conservatives, and republicans for their mess like they usually do. Lawyers, Senators, Congresspeople, and Accounts have no business governing healthcare. I just can’t beleive that we’re living in a time where socialized medicine is even being given any discussion whatsoever. Government run medicine is the furthest from what our forefathers were wanting for our country. They knew back then the people, especially lawyers and politicians, were naturally shady. We have got to get these dumb dumbs out of office before they bankrupt us all.
Posted by: john | July 15, 2009, 9:31 am 9:31 am
If health care reform is supposed to save money adn fix a broken system, why is it costing $2Trillion?
Obama told everyone in the campaign that the expiration of the bush tax cuts would pay for health care reform and his other programs. We are spending the increase in tax revenue and adding another tax on top of that?
We are penalzing small businesses in this country with higher taxes. The house definitions of small would fit two to 4 person firms. a small retail store or restaurant would be taxed out of business.
individuals would have to pay for health, at 2.5% of income PER PERSON in their household. I doubt that the average American realizes they will be paying thousands more per year to support the government.
the house plan does nothing for the high priced litigation and malpractice premimums that health care providers have to pay.
If the government is so intent on fixing health care, then why cannot they not fix Medicare, Medicaid, and theVA system. all of them are runnign huge deficits and outcomes are deadly in many cases as found at the VA system.
Posted by: scott jeffries | July 15, 2009, 9:32 am 9:32 am
I have a question for the president.
If unemployment is expected by some members of his administration to reach 13%, wouldn’t having businesses ensure that every employee be covered by health benefits and adding taxes to small businesses be counterproductive to stopping the escalation of unemployment? Small businesses will need to cut back their work forces more so that they can afford only necessary workers while more workers will be added to unemployment thus becoming more of taxpayers’ burdens.
Posted by: mccollegemom | July 15, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Another humangus bill being pushed through without any Republican input and no one seams to have read it. What’s wrong with this picture?
Posted by: Platypus | July 15, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Do not tell me our healthcare system is good. It isn’t. We are spending tons of money on a system that doesn’t work. The Republicans have no answer and during the Bush years did nothing. Healthcare costs is a huge part of what is hurting the economy. And perhaps if we took all the money these politicians use for campaigns that would help pay for it!
Posted by: Barb | July 15, 2009, 10:07 am 10:07 am
indithinker….bravo!….You speak the reality of average hard working folks.
Posted by: watching | July 15, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
“Another humangus bill being pushed through without any Republican input”
Get real…NO is not input…and tax cuts for the rich is a lame dog hunting
Posted by: say what | July 15, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am
OBAMA IS A JOKE
Posted by: GORDON HENDRICKS | July 15, 2009, 10:26 am 10:26 am
The public option proposal concerning healthcare reform would put private insurance companies out of business. People would opt out of existing coverage in favor of the lower cost taxpayer supported gov’t sponsored insurance. The Democratic leaders are telling us it would serve to set up competition between the public and private sectors and the people would benefit. What’s the real bottom line? As one wise man put it, when the government competes with the private sector it’s like an alligator competing with a duck, the duck gets gobbled up every time. So what we end up with is nationalized healthcare, the funding for which will be on the backs of individuals and businesses. Is this increase of tax burden really a wise thing to do as we try to recover from an economic crisis, soaring inflation, out of control national debt, benchmark unemployment figures expected to increase in the upcoming months, and we’re funding a war in Afghanistan. What’s more important, economic recovery or nationalized healthcare? Our president would have us believe healthcare reform is essential for future economic strength, and he wants a public option. So if it passes the recession deepens, national debt increases, the government grows and the people will have to pay more taxes to support the new entitlement program and we can blame the current administration who will blame the Republicans for whatever concessions are made to get the legislation pushed through. If it doesn’t pass the recession deepens, we’ll have a lesser increase in national debt, it won’t be necessary to increase individual and business taxes, the economy has a better chance of stabilizing accordingly, the Democrats will continue to squander taxpayer dollars on pet projects for their home states calling it economic stimulus, the president will blame the continued economic crisis on failure to pass his healthcare reform and the Republicans will get the blame for the ongoing recession.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | July 15, 2009, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Right, so none of you Palin/Plumber types out there are willing to go add up your Fed/State/Local and property taxes together with your healthcare coverage….? you all going to stick the the tired GOP talking points about “socialism” and “waiting lists”….blah blah blah – (despite the fact that you have not been to UK or Sweden and experienced their systems)
Go on, who is going to do the math, and see that you are paying more taxes for HALF the coverage than any western country……talk about a BUM DEAL…come on folks apply some intellectual rigor and truth ….your brains are rotting…
Posted by: indithinker | July 15, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am
I beleive before they talk about health care they should look into why the cost are so high now,and try to fix that first. Example Pharmacy costs,they have a pill stop smoking,works,however the cost of 30 day supply is 150.00.Why,certain prescriptions are beyond reach for the oddinary person,yet this is permitted.The illegal immigrants given our health care in emergency rooms ? Our insurance companies making a huge profit on health care .I beleive and can go on and on fix what we have now then start a healt care system.Then it would be lower for us and the government.This President needs to start thinking rather then spend spend spend just to get votes its sad.Yes we need something done but lets start at bottom and fix the problems and take it from there .
Posted by: Joeray | July 15, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Why does government health care have to be nationalized by the federal government? If you want a government healthcare start with your county, community or locality. Say your county has 10,000 people you have to fork up the money to hire general medical services you want through taxes from people and business in your county. You control and oversee on how many doctors you per patients, cost and medicines and services. The state picks up major medical service. Your local and state taxes will be higher, nothing is free. In my opinion the tax system is backwards along with services government provides.
Services Provided and tax structure:
(1) Local Provides Most of Services and Tax on you is Greater Than State and Federal
(2) State is next
(3) Federal is last
To me its easier to control a budget and services on say 10,000 people than 300,000,000 people. The only thing the federal government should do is set up a general guideline, thats it. And if you get hurt in a different state or county from where you reside your county and state pays for it. Can you imagine the nightmare if the federal government takes up the lead role. Name me one program the federal government oversees without cost overruns or horrible red tape.
Posted by: JW | July 15, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am
A trillion for the wars, a trillion for “health care”, a few trillions for the bankers… Hey Brother O, can you spare a DIME for ME!!!
Posted by: hmn | July 15, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Get off the blogs and start e mailing your congress people and representitives. If this bill is voted on with out debate and no one reading it as the porkulus bill was then tell them they will be voted out!
Posted by: Todd | July 15, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am
No to health care, no to crap and trade, no to harry ,no to nancy, no to chris, no to barney,no to liberqal dems and above all no to obama’s socialist world
Posted by: john | July 15, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Obama is destroying the United States so I guess it will cut down on all the people trying to get here to get ahead in life and those who come here for good healthcare from countries that have National Healthcare. Isn’t that interesting. Why would they want to come here when they could get it at home for free.
Posted by: Linda Snyder | July 15, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
A “Health Insurance Whistle-Blower?”, see Bill Moyers Journal, July 10, 2009. William Potter, Ex CIGNA Executive – Spokesperson: Testimony, Senate Committee on Commerce, Science & Transportation – 7/10/09. (A snippet) “I know from personal experience that members of Congress and the public have good reason to question the honesty and trustworthiness of the insurance industry. Insurers make promises they have no intention of keeping, they flout regulations designed to protect consumers, and they make it nearly impossible to understand — or even to obtain — information we need. As you hold hearings and discuss legislative proposals over the coming weeks, I encourage you to look very closely at the role for-profit insurance companies play in making our health care system both the most expensive and one of the most dysfunctional in the world. I hope you get a real sense of what life would be like for most of us if the kind of so-called reform the insurers are lobbying for is enacted.” FOR MORE INFORMATION; see Bill Moyers Journal, July 10, 2009.
Posted by: bobj72 | July 15, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Taxpayer may already be paying for the uninsured through general taxes but by shifting the cost officially onto employers, the administration is killing job creation by increasing the cost of employment. How we will have more people insured if there are fewer jobs?
Posted by: bct | July 15, 2009, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
“Doctors think they have the right to be rich”
I think anyone who dedicate 12 years of their life after high school (including a grueling residency) to becoming a doctor should be entitled to think anything they want in regards to how they are compensated for their services!
How many of us would do that and then sit back and say…”I’m not going to take market value for my services?”
Posted by: Mike_C | July 15, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Bobj72; What do you make of all the controversy surrounding Goldman Sachs, AIG, Bank of America concerning the bailout money they received, the record profits they’re reporting and the bonuses Goldman Sachs is about to pay it’s executives? And what do you think about Chicago based Goldman being named the broker for cap and trade transfers? Why aren’t they investing the profits in economic recovery as advertised? There’s some serious redistribution of wealth going on. But will the senate investigate those goings on? Change we can believe in? I believe….a different group of influential people are now lining their pockets with government dollars, taxpayer money.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | July 15, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
So the Health Care Program will save 500 Billion over the next 10 years. Well do you believe any of “OUR LEADERS” are going to pass along any savings of any kind to the American People. They will find some place to spend that money and the American Public will never see a savings of any kind. How do you think our Country got in the position we are in now. It has always been the reckless politicians,who, have put us where we are at. We are supporting half of the world and we don’t have any money to help the people who are paying for all of this. Once prosperous working people at least had a place to live. Now they are living in tents.At what point do they enter the yet 20 Million Illegals that they want to go on our rolls for Aid and Health Care. We are being sold right down the drain and they could care less.
Posted by: Don Park | July 15, 2009, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm