Notes from the Suds Summit
The media was cordoned off approximately 45 feet away from the patio furniture where the beers were being quaffed, so we have no idea what was being said.
President Obama and Vice President Biden appeared to be doing what they could to keep the mood light, wearing just shirt sleeves and appearing more relaxed than the professor and the policeman, who were in suits and more rigid.
In the less than two minutes that we were out there, Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Sgt. Jim Crowley did almost all of the talking. It didn’t appear chummy, but then again Gates has said Crowley racially profiled him, falsified a police report about him, and owes him an apology. Crowley says he did nothing wrong, resents being portrayed as a racist, and has said he came here with the understanding that he and Gates had agreed to disagree.
So one might not expect them to be re-enacting a Lowenbrau commercial.
The President and Vice President spent much of the time we were out there snacking on the peanuts and pretzels on the table. In frosty mugs, the four men had their beers of choice. For the president it was Bud Light, a beer company once headquartered in swing state Missouri now owned by a Belgian conglomerate.)Vice President Biden, who doesn’t drink alcoholic beverages, had a non-alcoholic Buckler, brewed by Dutch Heineken. Crowley had a Blue Moon Ale, brewed by Toronto, Canada’s Molson Coors Brewing Company. Gates opted for a Sam Adams Light – the only truly American beer in the lot.
Both Gates and Crowley brought their families to the White House and they toured the East Wing together before the sit-down. Gates brought his kids, fiancé and father. Crowley brought his wife and kids.
The men met with President Obama in the Oval Office before moving out to the Rose Garden. During their sit-down, their family members were given a tour of the West Wing.
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Thank got Joe The Biden was there. Nobody could handle such a tension-fraught situation with tact, aplomb, finesse, and diplomacy. Plus, I bet nobody else got a word in.
Posted by: mesquito | July 30, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Any mention of Mr. Obama considering an apology for his ill-informed comments following the arrest?
Posted by: Mark Osborne | July 30, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
How about someone asking the reporter, Lynn Sweet, that started all of this nonsense to apologize? Asking questions about something that had nothing to do with the topic of healthcare.
Posted by: runningmom1 | July 30, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
They grabbed Biden at the last minute. Heck without him the imagery would be two black guys ganging up on a white guy. Crowley would have gotten nervous, and called for backup… ha ha, seriosly that whole deal was whacked – no one at fault, no one right….
Posted by: Timbo | July 30, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
This bud’s for you. Today,i hope that the men was more civil towards each other than they were a few weeks ago. Try to understand that it was an unfortunate incident that probably could have happened to any of us under those circumstances and try to learn from it. We must make this melting pot work because we Americans do have a common enemy that we must defeat.
Posted by: johnnylee | July 30, 2009, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
there are so many rumors and insinuations about Obama’s allegiance and view of the USA it is indeed a shame that he didn’t take this opportunity to drink an AMERICAN brew! Pabst Brewing Company, Sam Adams, or many “micro-brews” are owned, brewed, and distributed here in the USA. Why not chose them? For example: from Pabst Brewing they could’ve chose a beer for any of their tastes: PBR, Schlitz (the original is back!), Country Club, Lonestar, Champale, St.Ides, etc. I think that all involved in this “summit” could have found a brew that would fit with their preference. Drink, and BUY, AMERICAN Obama!
Posted by: Ed | July 30, 2009, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
“Sometimes you want to go … where everybody knows your name, and they’re always glad you came … You wanna be where you can see, our troubles are all the same…”
Posted by: Mark from atlanta | July 30, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I think it’s a refreshing approach to an issue that STILL seems to be a problem in this country for both blacks and whites. Anything that promotes civil dialogue and an effort to evolve gets my 2 thumbs up. It’s been awhile since we’ve had a President who had thoughtful ideas to social problems. Smart PR, good common sense diplomacy. He’s a class act.
Posted by: MaryMary | July 30, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Who cares!
Posted by: Irishrose | July 30, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Unbelievable that people even care what kind of bear the Prez drank or where it’s made. If we only bought American products the country would come to a standstill in shock at what we couldn’t buy.
Posted by: Viking | July 30, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
HI SERENA REPORTING.
WHY ARE THEY NOT HAVING A YUENGLING.
LAGER BEER, BY AMERICA’S OLDEST BREWERY.
SINCE 1829.
BEST REGARDS
Posted by: Serena4141 | July 30, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
This is what our tax dollars get us. Disgusting.
Posted by: Holy Visage | July 30, 2009, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Irishrose…I hope you’re referring to the brand of beer they drank, because I agree it’s a stupid detail to harp on.
Seriously, if you live in America you SHOULD care that race, sexuality and religion create huge social problems and though this particular story has exploded we can certainly try to use it to our advantage. Look beyond the minutae. We can learn from it.
Posted by: MaryMary | July 30, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Obama is doing the right thing here, end of story. Now maybe we can move on…
Posted by: jb | July 30, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
OMG!!! These people came from Mass. at their expense for a beer and peanuts??? The White House should be ashamed for not feeding these people…
Posted by: FS | July 30, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I can’t believe people are up in arms over what kind of beer the President had. I don’t care for the man, but why should he drink a beer not to his liking just because it’s brewed in the U.S. Do all of you who are complaining drink things you don’ like?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | July 30, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
This Main Stream Corporate Conservative Media is certainly a sad lot. This story is a perfect example of why our priorities in this Country are so screwed up.
Posted by: Mark | July 30, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
This is not the last we have heard of it, despite the White House’s wishes for it to go away once and for all. Gates wants to stretch out his 15 minutes of fame and will continue to manipulate the president to draw attention to his agenda where “law and order” is labeled racist. Gates will be back to calling the police racist in no time. He wants to advance his career as an “expert” on racial relations by appearing on TV talk shows, writing articles and books in the publish or parish world of acedemia and giving speeches where he alleges it is not about him, it is about the racism in the treatment of black men by the police. He’ll secure his professorship in liberal acedemia and make lots of money. Gates has his own agenda. He is an agitator and makes money by aggrevating racial relations. He wanted to be arrested or beaten up or abused by the police so he could raise the issue on the national stage. Otherwise,he had no story. So, he pushed the policeman until he got arrested. He does not care if he ruins a good officer’s livelihood or subjects the caller and officer to threats or exposed Obama’s racial prejudices to a predominately white electorate causing his poll numbers to go down. Gates will do what is good for Gates which is to stay in the spotlight. Gates is alot like Rev. Wright. Obama needs some new friends. With friends like Rev. Wright and Gates, he does not need enemies. Gates will make sure that Obama’s effort at diplomacy will fail. Time to put away my crystal ball.
Posted by: Dawn | July 30, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
See a picture perfect Black & White moment. Let just forget the US is also made up of all types of people of different colors and genders. But it all comes down to Black and White “male’s only” club. If you are any other type of race instead of sitting down with them, they have the “OTHER” races serving them. but they will not show that picture.
This is a slap on all american’s of all race, and color.
Posted by: ray | July 30, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
It’s really funny that some people are complaining about The President isn’t drinking a “True American beer”.
Budweiser an American beer until mid 2008 when the company was sold to the InBev company. Cindy McCain made tons of money from the sale. Considering that she held of a million dollars worth of stock in Anheuser-Busch which Upon her father’s death in 2000, she inherited majority control and became chair of Hensley & Co., one of the largest Anheuser-Busch beer distributors in the United States.
So the wife of the former republican presidential candidate, help sell Americas #1 beer to a foreign country… and Obama is the one who is being chided for drinking what used to be America’s #1 beer.
What a strange world…
Cindy held over a million dollars worth of stock that she got to sell for in the sale of this once great American company.
Posted by: foldor | July 30, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Gates makes me sick with his grandstanding, playing the victim, and manipulation. Obama needs to put some distance between himself and this turkey, otherwise he’ll end up looking just as ridiculous as Gates.
Posted by: Elizabetta | July 30, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
We were told that the White House will only serve american beers, that is what the dust-up is. Although, for a icy blue moon with an orange slice, I would change traditions and history too.
Posted by: Rod | July 30, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I agree with MaryMary:
I think it’s a refreshing approach to an issue that STILL seems to be a problem in this country for both blacks and whites. Anything that promotes civil dialogue and an effort to evolve gets my 2 thumbs up.
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I’ve been watching some of the coverage and video of the meeting, and it looks rather cordial and lovely. While I do think mistakes were made all around, everyone has bad days. I respect the graciousness of both Officer Crowley and Professor Gates. Given some of the wingnuttery’s reax, I can just imagine someone not as classy as Crowley, more like Joe (or was it Sam?) the Plumber, making country album deals and what not, and really exploiting the situation.
Well done. Now, let’s move on. Please?
Posted by: Alyson | July 30, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
I hope Crowley had the opportunity to give Obama and Gates a class on race sensitivity. They both seem somewhat lacking in that area.
Posted by: ceeLeelee | July 30, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
This was nothing more than a dog and pony show. The elites looking down on the cop for the benefit of the media. Cop didn’t even rate A/C in August. Obama should have just put on his big boy pants and apologized for voicing an opinion without knowing the facts. He never said that his frind acted stupidly.
Posted by: Judy | July 30, 2009, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Crowley needs to learn what their so call phrase “protect and serve” means. Although Gates could have conducted himself better, that doesn’t mean he should of been arrested. Many professionals (e.g., teachers, lawyers, customer service representatives) have to sometimes put up with unruly clients or students. That doesn’t mean as PROFESSIONALS they go off half cocked. There is something to maintaining your professional dignity in spite of rude behavior from others. Crowley is a poor excuse for an officer and did NOT conduct himself professionally.
Posted by: Lori | July 30, 2009, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Hey Ed…Budwiser was American… Until Cindy McCain sold it. Which cost alot of Americans thier jobs… But she made tons of money on it.
Posted by: foldor | July 30, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
The thing is now Sgt. Crowley can write a community book on “How to Arrest A Minority Without Handcuffs”. And Prof. Gates can offer a new College Lecture on “How to Break in Your Own Home Without Being Caught.” As for Mr. Obama, he will have a small chapter in his Presidential Memoir, entitled, “Stupidly”.
Posted by: young_voter | July 30, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
I guess Obama thinks he has escaped another disaster like he did with Rev Wright.
A speech on race to educate the poor ignorant morons, or spin his dumb comment into a wonderful teaching moment.
He wants to lecture us about everything.
Someone should tell him he’s not a professor anymore–he has to actually lead now.
He’s not a Senator that can simply vote present on the hard decisions.
Obama seems quite content to lecture, make speeches, and turn the tough decisions over to Pelosi and Reid.
Maybe beer will help him get a spine.
Posted by: jack | July 30, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever witnessed a president take part in. It’s downright embarrassing. We’re all supposed to be in suspense over what happened when the president drank a beer with some cop and a belligerent race card player in order to smooth out his own ignorant and inflammatory comments? This beer is supposed to be symbolic in some way?? You’ve got to be kidding me.
Posted by: spread that wealth | July 30, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Although Gates could have conducted himself better, that doesn’t mean he should of been arrested.
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So just how far would you let Gates go. Crowley was leaving…Gates continued to go on & on. He WAS NOT arrested in his home, he came out and continued to berate the police EVEN after he was wraned that was becoming disorderly.
Were the officers just supposed to leave with a man in an aggiated state and people gathering to watch the “spectacle”?
What would all you liberal fools be saying about the police if they had left and Gates continued to go on & on?
Their job is to protect & serve the community, not to ignore an highly aggitated hateful man and leave the people in the neighborhood to deal with him.
What evidence is there at all that Crowley did or said anything to Gates that deserved the hate speech that Gates spewed?
Did he call him the “n-word” ?
Did he knock him to the ground and slap him around at all ?
EXACTLY WHAT did Crowley do ?
He introduced himself, explained why he was there & asked Gates for ID.
Obviously these things were done just to set Gates off !
Posted by: Mike_C | July 30, 2009, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Will many of the critics finally grow up and realize that no one is perfect and we all make mistakes ,but how do you react to the mistakes and learn from them. We need change in this world and new ideals. So, respect that at least the three involved can sit and talk and move on.
Many of you that criticize this President’s every move need to be reminded of the last 8 years and how it’s ruined this country and offered no dialogue between people of different races.
Posted by: John Hinson | July 30, 2009, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
“Gates had the only truly American beer…”
Yeah – cuz he read/heard everyone talking about the beers chosen. He had chosen RED STRIPE – also a non-American
brew … at least until the blogs began buzzin.
Teachable moment, right there.
Posted by: Terika | July 30, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Waste of news space
Posted by: Bob | July 30, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Whomever made the comment about Cindy McCain selling Budweiser to the Belgians was incorrect. Cindy McCain’s Company is a wholesaler for Budweiser products, not the actual company that makes the beer.
Anheuser-Busch was sold to InBev by its shareholders, not one person. Cindy McCain may hold some stock in A-B, but she certainly didn’t have anywhere near a controlling percentage.
With regard to the comment in the article about Sam Adams being the only “true American” beer in the lot, that’s disingenuous at best.
Blue Moon is brewed by MillerCoors (no longer Molson Coors, as the article says), but Coors (and Miller were once in the position of A-B as an American company which was bought out by foreign investors. But, like A-B, all of their products are still made the same way in the same places they have been for decades.
So, yes, they’re not owned by American companies anymore, but 80% of the beer we drink in America are those beers. The so-called “Macrobreweries” are all owned by foreign companies. And all that’s only happened in the last 15 years.
Why is this news, again?
Posted by: Peter | July 30, 2009, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
foldor, honey lamb, Cindy McCain did not sell Budweiser to the Belgians. Her vast fortune was built on bud, to be sure, but not by owning the brewing company. Instead, her dad built one of the largest beer DISTRIBUTION companies in the country, and she inherited a fortune as a result. She did own millions of dollars of Budweiser stock, but she did not have a controlling interest in that huge corporation. Nice try, though. Couldn’t come up with a Bush angle, had to settle for a McCain one?
Posted by: moderate | July 30, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Man with all the education that Gates is supposed to have he sure acts like an idiot. It seems to me that when the press was filming them all sitting at the table he was angry and making an argument for his innocence. I can’t believe that he thinks that he deserves an apology. Some nerve he has but then when the president comes out and says that the police department the arreseted him was stupid what’s he supposed to think? Gates momma sure didn’t raise him to well. I don’t care what color you are you don’t act like amoron when the police are talking to you. Because one things for sure. Black, white , yellow and any other color you can think of you act like Gates did and you are going to be ARRESTED! It doesn’t take a Harverd education to figure that one out. Well unless your Gates and think that your someone special. Which he is not.
Posted by: ..darkfall | July 30, 2009, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Sgt Crowley proved to be a class act.
Gates and Obama proved that they are two cowardly men who, if they had any courage at all, would have stood accountable for their actions and rash, hurtful words in this debacle.
If Gates and Obama had an ounce of integrity they each would have offered a sincere apology to Crowley for slandering him and in turn, all law enforcement officers. Gates also owe Crowley’s mother and Ms. Whalen an apology.
Instead, they tried to play it off as a “teachable” moment. After behaving as they did, just exactly what did Obama and “Skippy” think they could teach Crowley or any other American about racial relations?
I wonder what MLK would say if he was here.
Posted by: ceeLeelee | July 30, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
“Sgt Crowley proved to be a class act.”
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That depends, according to Ms. Whelan, Crowley falsified his police report to state she had told him there were “2 black men” breaking in.
Ms. Whelan says she told him nothing of the sort. Certainly from the 911 call we can hear she does not identify the men as ‘black’ when directly asked. She says one ‘might’ be hispanic.
This casts Crowley’s report in a less than stellar light . .. so this needs to be investigated further before the ‘class act’ label gets applied with the certainly you seem to have.
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“Gates and Obama proved that they are two cowardly men”
That is your opinion based on facts you don’t quite have right (see above). Your opinion is suspect.
Posted by: danita | July 30, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
You should have seen the look on Obama’s face when Biden showed up with his beer bong.
Posted by: spread that wealth | July 30, 2009, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
“You should have seen the look on Obama’s face when Biden showed up with his beer bong.”
OMG! Lol. That is the best line of the night.
LMAO! :D
Posted by: ceeLeelee | July 30, 2009, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
The idea of a meeting over beer at the White House was suggested by Crowley when Obama first called him. Now Obama is promoting himself as the great healer having turned the idea into a beer powwow by inviting Gates also to the get-together.
Obama’s support of Gates who is a good-for-nothing race-monger and his snickering remark that the police acted stupidly will be hard for him to overcome.
Posted by: anon | July 31, 2009, 1:23 am 1:23 am
This has got to be the most pathetic excuse of a President of the United States to act. He thinks after he berated the police department in general and Officer Crowley that sitting down with suit and ties to have a beer is going to undo his stupidity. He wouldn’t have gotten envolved if it had been a white man, which proves who the racist is.
I wish Crowley hadn’t gone for Obama’s dog and pony show. Just another example of what we have to look forward to.
Posted by: Pat Stephens | July 31, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Let’s see, BO gives his “stupid” biased opinion of a local case on the national stage, even though he admittedly didn’t have the facts, a major mistake that nobody but a community organizer would make. Then he lectures US about race, saying this is a “teachable moment”?
Remember when he came back from his latest world apology tour and scolded us that he had heard there had been a lot of “chatter” about Obamacare while he was gone? We’re not supposed to speak?
BO must think he’s the wise teacher, and we’re the naughty children – how insulting! There are millions of people in this country far wiser than he is.
Posted by: SweetAlmondVerbena | July 31, 2009, 9:09 am 9:09 am
It is ironic that a ‘constitutional law professor’, now POTUS, does not have the sense to refrain from speaking about a case when he freely admits he does not hold all of the facts.
Yet, he has the power to select federal judges. Let’s hope he holds them to a higher standard than his own, when it comes to speaking out about racially sensitive cases in which they know little about.
Posted by: J House | July 31, 2009, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Let’s take a different approach to Gates behavior.
What do you think Gates would do if a student in one of his classes acted as he did that night?
Right, he would have calmed down the student and coached him/her on the finer things in life…if you believe that I have some water front land in Louisiana for you.
What Gates would have done is berated the student and then tossed them out on their ear from his class.
Get a life Libs, Gates was totally out of control and he’s lucky Crowley had the sense to simply arrest him vs working him over with a baton like some cops would have done.
Posted by: Mick | July 31, 2009, 9:46 am 9:46 am
What an odd spectacle. The staff members runs over with one beer each and then they grumble at each other. And Gates brings his lawyer with him!?
Anyone else disappointed that Joe doesn’t drink? It seem like he would be the type to bust out a joke about a “black and a cop walking into a bar” after two at most.
Posted by: BertieW | July 31, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Teachable moment: 1. Act like an #### to the police and get a trip to the WH and share a beer with the prez. 2. Takes sides with a man that threw out a racial term without knowing any facts and not apologize for anything. 3. Do your job and you get a trip to the WH and a beer with the prez. 4. Bite your tongue after having a beer with 2 elitists .
Posted by: lfrichar | July 31, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Danita,
Since you like facts so much. Gates, “I’ll go outside with your mama”, “why, cause I am a black man in America?”, “do you know who I am?”.
Obama, “The police acted stupidly”. Judging from these answers, Crowley must have asked Gates these questions:
Sir, do you want to go outside with me or my mama?
Sir, Why did you have to break into your own home?
Without your ID, I don’t know who you are, can you give me a hint?
And Obama this question:
Mr. Prez, can you give us your intelligent opinion on the way the police acted while not knowing any facts?
Either that or Obama and Gates acted like children. Would you ever treat the police in the manner gates did? Obama pulled something worse than even Bush could do. It’s pathetic neither of the 2 could be man enough to own up and apologize. Those are uncontested facts and not the way any normal human being should act.
Posted by: lfrichar | July 31, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Obama was right the policeman acted stupidly.The professor was in his own house.The policeman should have left after esatablishing that fact, not mishandle the case.I find it absurd that he teaches a course on”racial profiling”.From time immemorial, black people have been treated like criminals by the law enforcement community.I bet if the professor was white he would have recieved a defferential treatment that whites are so found of given each other at the expense of other people.Even in colleges, white professors will favor dumb white kids over brilliant black ones.But times are changing,attitudes are changing especially after the unmitigated disaster that was the last eight years rule.The old Lou Dobbs mindset type is finding that they have no audience to listen to their drivel in these modern times.59 million Americans could never be wrong.
Posted by: modernsage | July 31, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am
The photo op fizzled because the cop wouldn’t apologize. And, Obama had nothing else that he wanted. So, he gave the press their “photo op” without sound. Making the press look like idiots.
As to “stupidly,” it looks like it brought down the house of cards. I guess there was a joker in the deck, after all?
Cop didn’t apologize. Obama’s “beer fest around some lawn furniture” fell flat. Name another president, in recent times, who would have gone through with this? And, guess what Obama must be like to his staff these days?
Posted by: Carol Herman | July 31, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
The comments I read here are exactly what I have come to learn about those on the right, they are always right. There is no teachable moment here and we may as well forget this, and handle the next situation the same way or how it used to be. My only problem with this is the truth will never come out. Why did they drop the charges??
Posted by: Paul Hammond | July 31, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am
The whole entire thing is such a joke and anyone who can’t see through it is a moron. And what about the poor woman who made the 911 call- how come she didn’t get an apology from anyone.
Crowley seems a little too cozy with Obama, etc. for my taste, in this whole affair. He saved BO’s butt. I’ve come to not like anyone included in this whole ridiculous scenario. And I’m so sick of seeing BO everywhere- by the time next year comes around, we’ll be wearier than h— of these people in this administration. And also, Biden probably had/has a drinking problem and can’t take the chance of chatter about his likely past alocoholism. JUST MY OPINION….What the media let this administration get away with is just unbelievable and so transparent! What about all our soldiers being killed now in Afghanistan!! Anything to get that bit of news off the front page!! DISGRACEFUL!!!
Posted by: Susanne | July 31, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am
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This Whitehouse Beer bash caused more damage to race relations.
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If you ignore color but instead, as MLK would suggest, look at content of character, it’s clear that Gates behaved like he was above the law and had no obligation to respect law enforcement. The outcome of this beer bash proves, not only that Gates still thinks he has a right to disrespect law enforcement, but that Obama did not take the position of respecting law enforcement.
Posted by: N Waff | July 31, 2009, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Suzanne, Joe does not drink because many family members of his were alcoholics but never drank himself.
I think both Gates and Crowley profiled each other and both acted irrationally.
Now its time to move on to more important things like the economy and health care. The media is so idiotic sometimes.
Posted by: jennifer | August 3, 2009, 3:04 am 3:04 am