Obama Calls Cambridge Police Officer, Invites him for a Beer with Gates at the White House
ABC News' Yunji de Nies, Sunlen Miller and Sarah Tobianski report:
President Obama made his second surprise appearance before press in the briefing room to address what he called the “media frenzy” over his comments on the Skip Gates case.
“The fact that it has garnered so much attention, I think, is a testimony to the fact that these are issues that are still very sensitive here in America,” The President said, “And, you know, so to the extent that my choice of words didn't illuminate, but rather contributed to more media frenzy, I think that was unfortunate.”
At about 2:15 pm today the President spoke on the phone with Sergeant Jim Crowley.
“I have to tell you that, as I said yesterday, my impression of him was that he was a outstanding police officer and a good man, and that was confirmed in the phone conversation. And I told him that.”
Obama took partial blame for the media frenzy over the story, saying that he “helped to continue ratcheting it up” by saying that the Cambridge police “acted stupidly” comments at Wednesday night’s primetime press conference.
“I want to make clear that in my choice of words, I think, I unfortunately, I think, gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police department or Sergeant Crowley specifically. And I could have calibrated those words differently. And I told this to Sergeant Crowley.”
Mr. Obama did not say if he offered Crowley a direct apology and held fast to the notion that there was an overreaction in Professor Gate’s arrest – but admitted that Gates had to take some of the responsibility for the overreaction.
“I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station. I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, that Professor Gates probably overreacted as well.”
The President asked that everyone step back and recognize that these are “two decent” and “good people” in a circumstance in which both would have wanted to be resolved differently, but echoed sentiments in his press conference of the sensitivities that still exist over these issues.
“Be mindful of the fact that because of our history, because of the difficulties of the past, you know, African-Americans are sensitive to these issues,” Obama said, “And even when you've got a police officer who has a fine track record on racial sensitivity, interactions between police officers and the African-American community can sometimes be fraught with misunderstanding.”
President Obama said he hopes this can be a “teachable moment” – where “instead of pumping up the volume” American can focus on how to improve relations between police officers and minority communities.
“Whether I were black or white, I think that me commenting on this and hopefully contributing to constructive, as opposed to negative, understandings about the issue is part of my portfolio.”
Obama said at the end of his conversation with Crowley there was a discussion about Crowley and Professor Gates coming to the White House to have a beer together.
President Obama has not spoken to Gates yet and there is no time yet scheduled for their beer get together, although White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs indicated that the meeting would likely happen.
– Yunji de Nies, Sunlen Miller and Sarah Tobianski
UPDATE: At 3:15 pm the president called and connected with Professor Gates. “They had a positive discussion during which the President told Gates about his call with Sgt. Crowley and statement to the media,” The White House says in a written statement.
The President invited Gates to join him with Sgt. Crowley at the White House “in the near future."
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“I know one way to improve relations between police and minority communities… stop playing the race card and acting like a victim when they’re just there to help.”
This from the guy who flogged the Ashley Todd hoax long after it was debunked.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 24, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
“…And I could have calibrated those words differently. And I told this to Sergeant Crowley.”
That’s an apology?
Posted by: Hmmm... | July 24, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Who’s paying for those beer? The Republican taxpayers probably!
Posted by: danita | July 24, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
===Obama took partial blame for the media frenzy over the story,===
He’s kidding right? Hardly anyone had even heard of this story until Lynn Sweet asked Obama about it.
Posted by: Axey | July 24, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
“The fact that it has garnered so much attention, I think, is a testimony to the fact that these are issues that are still very sensitive here in America,” The President said, “And, you know, so to the extent that my choice of words didn’t illuminate, but rather contributed to more media frenzy, I think that was unfortunate.”
I’m sorry, Mr. President that we were unable to recieve your illumination as you intended. We pledge to do better next time.
“Whether I were black or white, I think that me commenting on this and hopefully contributing to constructive, as opposed to negative, understandings about the issue is part of my portfolio.”
Somehow, it is always about Obama, isn’t it?
Posted by: tjp612 | July 24, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
“Hardly anyone had even heard of this story until Lynn Sweet asked Obama about it.”
Sweet’s question was an obviously set up: The One knew what the question was going to be. Watch the tape.
They’ll ALL be apologizing to Crowley on live teevee, in the Rose Garden, before this is over.
Posted by: Bet | July 24, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Yes, Barry, it can be a teachable moment. Tell the class what YOU learned?
Posted by: Ken | July 24, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Oh, he’s a cop, so he drinks BEER. You don’t think he might enjoy a cocktail, or a glass of wine….
Posted by: M Clarke | July 24, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
” ‘…And I could have calibrated those words differently. And I told this to Sergeant Crowley.’
That’s an apology?”
Posted by: Bet | July 24, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Axey:”He’s kidding right? Hardly anyone had even heard of this story until Lynn Sweet asked Obama about it. ”
Does the right really have no memory at all, or is it just knee-jerk habit to lie about recent history?
Gate’s arrest and the ultimate dropping of charges was national news since the 21st, several days before the press conference. Feel free to look at archived pages of the site of your choice. Your assertion “hardly anyone” had heard about this story is beyond an exageration, it is a flat out lie. Even Foxnews had it in rotation on by the 21st.
Posted by: jhw539 | July 24, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
“Who’s paying for those beer? The Republican taxpayers probably!
Posted by: danita | Jul 24, 2009 3:37:42 PM”
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Ryan C | July 24, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
The One invites Gates for BEER? THAT might not be a great idea.
Posted by: Bet | July 24, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
President Obama said he hopes this can be a “teachable moment” – where “instead of pumping up the volume” American can focus on how to improve relations between police officers and minority communities.
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I see. Now he is the voice of reason?
Earlier it was the press was obsessing.
Now it’s the Americans that are wrong – pumping up the volume because we’re all a bunch of racits I suppose.
When is he going to get around to admitting he never should have gotten involved? And don’t start pasting in quotes from what he did say. Those are excuses and rationalizations.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 24, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Obama just finished traveling the world apologizing for all of Americas sins. But when he needs to apologize for himself he suddenly can’t quite find the right words. “Impression,” “Illuminate,” “Calibrate.” Gee Mr. President, find some more words. A real profile in character.
Posted by: Ken | July 24, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Interesting choice of words:
cal⋅i⋅brate /ˈkæləˌbreɪt/
–verb (used with object), -brat⋅ed, -brat⋅ing.
1. to determine, check, or rectify the graduation of (any instrument giving quantitative measurements).
2. to divide or mark with gradations, graduations, or other indexes of degree, quantity, etc., as on a thermometer, measuring cup, or the like.
3. to determine the correct range for (an artillery gun, mortar, etc.) by observing where the fired projectile hits.
4. to plan or devise (something) carefully so as to have a precise use, application, appeal, etc.: a sales strategy calibrated to rich investors.
Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | July 24, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Obama’s wet behind the ears politics are showing. He, himself, is a racist at heart. He, himself, believes he is a victim as do most Afro Americans. This guy should never have been elected to our nation’s highest office.
Posted by: Jaycee | July 24, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“When is he going to get around to admitting he never should have gotten involved?”
The One’s body language, in the intro to Lynn Sweet’s question, was reminiscent of George Bush’s memorable remarks on “yellowcake … from Africa”.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Bet Noir:”There’s not much “calibration” to be done on “stupid”.”
Well, we know you are lying (misquoting, slandering, bearing false witness, etc) when you claim he said “stupid.” But I’m not entirely sure if your lie should be attributed entirely to malice, or if you just have a poor grasp of English.
Obama said they had “acted stupidly.” According to 6th grade English, Obama was applying the description to the act, not the person doing the act – in the same manner he has said he himself has acted stupidly at times. You have chosen through dishonesty or ignorance of English to falsely quote him as using ‘stupid,’ which in the context would have been a VERY different meaning.
Do you understand? And can you see how indulging in making up stories about what Obama actually said ends up making you look untrustworthy and disconnected from reality?
Posted by: jhw539 | July 24, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Everyone now knows what the POTUS really thinks
in his heart. All the apologizing and drinking beer
together will not erase that comment from anyone’s memory.
Scene in the Principal’s office, after being
caught in a fight:” Now, boys, say sorry and shake
hands”.
Posted by: 2smart4u | July 24, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“Obama said they had ‘acted stupidly.’”
I’m aware of that. “Acted stupidly” means the policeman’s “action was stupid”.
This attempt to calibrate the forms of “stupid” doesn’t really help The One’s case.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
“All the apologizing and drinking beer
together will not erase that comment from anyone’s memory.”
And all the king’s men can’t put The One and Henry Louis Gates back together again.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Obama Calls Cambridge Police Officer, Invites him for a Beer with Gates at the White House
Will Sean Hannity be invited, too?
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 24, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
JWH– thanks for clearing up what the definition of IS is.
ROTFLMAO!
Posted by: Lily | July 24, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Is this like the beer he offered to Sean Hannity? Hannity accepted, but has yet to ever get the beer. He even offered to buy the beer and host the Prez, but no dice.
Posted by: Lightduty | July 24, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Is Obama thumping the podium more than he used to? I’ve been hearing a lot of thumps while he speaks lately.
Posted by: Lightduty | July 24, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
“Is this like the beer he offered to Sean Hannity? Hannity accepted, but has yet to ever get the beer”
Still waiting for Hannity to get waterboarded for charity.
Guess the Bund leader realized what a fiasco that would have been after ManCow did it.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 24, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I had suggested that beer thing too on here.
Posted by: wadyaknow | July 24, 2009, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
The Mayor has hushed the other officers present to keep the Truth from coming to light. If Crowley sued Gates for slander, then the other officers would have to testify and the dispatch recordings would be played in court. Harvard’s smartest black man would have been exposed as a racist idiot. Obama had to head the lawsuit off at the pass.
Posted by: DyersburgTN | July 24, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Teachable moments…
In many cases, I think that blacks are at a disadvantage due to perceived racism. I saw this particularly in the military.
When I would go into a superior officer’s office to provide a briefing or attend a meeting, it didn’t always go as I intended. Sometimes things went very badly indeed, and I would leave with a number of dents in my helmet. I would then examine the situation carefully, hoping to find ways to improve my performance in the future. I was operating from the perspective that I had some control over the situation, and over a long career, it worked out for me.
I noted that in the case of some of my black colleagues, and more particularly in the later years, when the same thing would happen to them, rather than engaging in self examination, they would just assume it was racism on the part of the superior officer. This left them at a disadvantage since they would not go through the process needed to improve their performance. The subsequent poor results would be taken as further evidence of racism.
In my opinion, Prof. Gates was seeing racism where there doesn’t appear to have been any. He should examine his actions so he can do better the next time.
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Obama says: “And I could have calibrated those words differently. And I told this to Sergeant Crowley.”
What does he mean? I have never heard somebody talk about calibrating their words differently. Someone please enlighten me. As to the offer of a beer with Obama and Gates, if I were Crowley I would say, thanks, but no thanks. Crazy that he would even suggest that as something that either Gates or Crowley would want to do. Obama does not impress me at all in his response to this.
Posted by: Jason | July 24, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
He should examine his actions so he can do better the next time.
Posted by: Terry | Jul 24, 2009 4:22:24 PM
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I doubt that will happen “on campus.”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 24, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
“I want to make clear that in my choice of words, I think, I unfortunately, I think, gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police department or Sergeant Crowley specifically.”
Good LUCK on making it clear that accusing the police of “acting stupidly” isn’t “maligning”.
Are we SURE English is a language that The One actually speaks? Funny he’s “friends” with literary critic Gates.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Maybe Gates and Obama could attend Crowley’s racial profiling class for ROOKIES. They might actually learn something.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 24, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
ryan says: “You have chosen through dishonesty or ignorance of English to falsely quote him as using ‘stupid,’ which in the context would have been a VERY different meaning.”
Jason says:
So if I call your comment stupid, that is ok, because I am not calling you stupid?
Posted by: Jason | July 24, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
“‘instead of pumping up the volume’ American can focus on how to improve relations between police officers and minority communities”
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[Al] Sharpton proclaimed, “I’ve heard of driving while black, but I’ve never heard of living in a home while black.” He added, “If they can do this to him [Gates], imagine what they can do to a kid in Roxbury.”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 24, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Posted by: Jason | Jul 24, 2009 4:28:53 PM”
I can’t seem to find the original quote s for this and I did not write who you attributed to ryan.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 24, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
The President drinks beer?
Posted by: jon jay v | July 24, 2009, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Ryan I apologize. I was mistaken, it was JHW539 who said that.
Posted by: Jason | July 24, 2009, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
The RaceBaiter in Chief is taking one hell of a beating on this..Has Rahm Emmanuel called the networks and said ” hey guys lets get this out of the news, don’t talk about it anymore”.
Henry Waxman today.. to Blue dog dems.. we will STEAMROLL over you..Hmmmmm using Obama style politics now huh
Posted by: Obamas media network | July 24, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
“Ryan I apologize. I was mistaken, it was JHW539 who said that.”
No worries.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 24, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
jhw539 says: “You have chosen through dishonesty or ignorance of English to falsely quote him as using ‘stupid,’ which in the context would have been a VERY different meaning.”
So if I call your comment stupid, that is ok, because I am not calling you stupid?
Again, apologies to Ryan for the mistake.
Posted by: Jason | July 24, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
From “THe Hill”
House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were “lied” to by their Democratic leaders.
Well what do you expect from Henry Waxman and Nancy Pelosi
Posted by: Obamas media network | July 24, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
bet noir says: He probably ought not to mix alcohol with his stupid pills. Remember what happened to sort-of-”black” cultural icon Michael Jackson . .
That was a pathetic comment bet noir. It smacks of racism and that is what we are all sick and tired of.
Posted by: Jason | July 24, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
It was 0bama who echoed the phrase “words matter” yet he finds it surprising that his WORDS matter on such incendiary and controversial issues as RACISM (claimed by Gate) and RACIAL-PROFILING (claimed by 0bama)?
What is up with 0bama that he seems to forget who he is now, what position he holds and that what he says MATTERS a great deal in this country?! People who had never voted before came out by the busload, even the dead ones, to vote for him. Seriously, they deserve more than stupidity and divisiveness coming from the person they chose for potus. Or was THAT not part of the CHANGE he promised?
Posted by: Claire | July 24, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
For someone who is suppose to be so bright, it seems impossible that President Obama did not realize exactly what he was doing. How can anyone make such an inflammatory remark and not be considered a rabble-rouser?
Did not President Obama vow to end cronyism? It seems that personal friends get very special treatment from him. Without knowing the facts, he immediately decided that because it is a white policeman, his actions are stupid. I really could not believe what I was seeing. I so regret my support of President Obama, he is much more racist than any of the other candidates were. This has set race relations back decades; this has driven a wedge between whites and blacks. If a white politician had made theses remarks they would never have been forgiven. With everything there is to deal with world-wide, it is unfortunate that he will have to spend so much time trying to back out of his remarks. The only teaching moment this will provide is to teach President Obama to think before he speaks.
Posted by: Linda | July 24, 2009, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Heady start, big hopes …
Summer heat melting the dreams
“This is really hard” …
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
“This has set race relations back decades; this has driven a wedge between whites and blacks.”
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Talk about inflamed rhetoric . .. are you trying to encourage this to come true?
Posted by: danita | July 24, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Let’s see, “change you can believe in” has become the same old tired “white people are all racists” line from the KneeGrow in charge…hope all you sheep that voted for him are quite pleased so far with the record deficits and socialist agenda. I’m just waiting for the reparations bill that will be coming up early in 2010, before the elections. At 36.4 million claiming to be black from the 2000 census, and $250,000 each per Conyers, who will sponsor the bill, that will be 9.1 trillion dollars, based on my quick math. Enjoy!
Posted by: Ken | July 24, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
“If a white politician had made theses remarks they would never have been forgiven.”
Obama, who was raised by white people, is only half “white” — and He’s never going to be forgiven, either.
Still, He IS going to apologize, if He has one little brain left.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
“This has set race relations back decades; this has driven a wedge between whites and blacks.”
“Talk about inflamed rhetoric . .. are you trying to encourage this to come true?”
Stop right now !!! Cant we all get along??
Let’s take the enormity of the lesson to heart and invite Danita over to the White House – well no, the Washington mall – and have a beer.
If ONLY all National Crises could be solved like this!!
Posted by: robertb | July 24, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Obama wants to call Crowley “stupid” to his face.
Posted by: drjohn | July 24, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
It seems to me that if someone says I’ve acted stupidly, that doesn’t mean I am stupid. I am an intelligent person but that doesn’t mean I’ve never acted stupidly. And if anyone honestly looks back at their life, they will find more than a few times when they’ve acted stupidly. Those who say it is the same as calling someone stupid, are not being very accurate with their English.
I like the idea of Gates and Crowley getting together for a beer at the White House. Whenever people have acted badly, and it seems from the report that both parties did, the best way to negate the bad feeling of the experience is to just sit down and talk, after everyone has calmed down a bit. From Crowley’s point of view, a personal visit to the White House will help with the teasing I’m sure he is getting around the station. (Yep, police officers do rib each other when a bad arrest is made, just like at any office or factory when someone messes up.) And from Gates point of view, getting to know the police officer who wrongly arrested him, will help keep him from villifying him in his mind as just another racist man and help Gates see him as a fellow human being, doing a difficult, often thankless, and in my opinion, underpaid job.
Police deserve better compensation but any misuse of power should be quickly dealt with, as it should in any profession where power over people can be misused.
Posted by: Lydia | July 24, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
“And even when you’ve got a police officer who has a fine track record on racial sensitivity, interactions between police officers and the African-American community can sometimes be fraught with misunderstanding.”
Yeah, and when Presidents don’t know squat about the details, they should shut the hell up.
Posted by: drjohn | July 24, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Not sure why the President should think he can tell a local police department how to do their job when he can’t seem to do his own job !!! Seems he is playing the race card before he even knows what he is talking about, very disappointed in our supposedly leader!!
Posted by: barry | July 24, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Where was Mr.Obama hiding at the scene so that he even had a right to comment on what the officer’s who were at the scene were respondong to. I feel certain that Obama got all the “correct” facts from his long time friend Gates. Or maybe there was some reverse racial profiling going on??
Posted by: lenn | July 24, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
“It was 0bama who echoed the phrase ‘words matter’ ”
Yes, in an Axelrod piece first used by Obama prototype Deval Patrick, presently the governor of Massachusetts. Note that Patrick ALSO jumped on the Cambridge cops.
According to AP, “A black police officer who was at Henry Louis Gates Jr.’s home when the black Harvard scholar was arrested says he fully supports how his white fellow officer handled the situation.”
Meanwhile, the ghastly Gibbs today: “I think the Fraternal Order of Police endorsed McCain, if I’m not mistaken.”
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
“Or maybe there was some reverse racial profiling going on??”
Or some class profiling going on — a couple of guys who have drivers, versus a couple of guys who drive police cars?
Or did Gates bring it on deliberately, to attempt to bail out The One’s plummeting popularity with a “race” bonanza — only to have it backfire badly?
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
If Crowley were to sue Obama for defamation, would The One claim some kind of immunity? If he claimed a civil rights violation — he might as well do something: life as he knew it was over — what would the Justice Department do — get a Special Prosecutor? :^|
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Obama should concentrate on HIS job & stop playing Clark Kent.
Would he chastise Sharpton,Jackson & Farrakhan??????
Don’t think so!!!
Posted by: cs | July 24, 2009, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Jake. Check your headline. Crowley asked the President to have a beer and the President thought it was a good idea. I know you were there at the same press conference and heard Gibbs make that statement.
Posted by: dotheresearch | July 24, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
This President is full of himself.
Posted by: KansasGirl | July 24, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Some clarification – Obama started out saying “Officer Crowley, the officer at fault……. This President is an expert at thinking one thing and saying another.
Posted by: Rich | July 24, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
I predict that, like his mentor Wright, Obama will further distance himself from Gates once the tapes and more details of his behavior come to light. Same playbook. First Obama jumps in and backs the race-baiter friend. Then he apologizes and parses his words. Then he explains that he didn’t quite grasp the situation or was misunderstood. Then he blames society and says “use this as an opportunity for dialogue”. Then we won’t return phone calls from his former friend!
Posted by: Ed | July 24, 2009, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
“Some clarification – Obama started out saying “Officer Crowley, the officer at fault……. This President is an expert at thinking one thing and saying another.”
Has Obama now added “clarification” to “calibration”? :^}
G-d help us.
The whole country’s gonna need therapy for anxiety that “race” belly-flopper Obama has control of the nuclear football AND the Treasury — and much of the formerly-”Democratic” Party.
Too darn bad we don’t have Single Payer — we’re gonna need it.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
“And can you see how indulging in making up stories about what Obama actually said ends up making you look untrustworthy and disconnected from reality?”
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Perhaps you might look into your own statements and realize that arguing semantics and dodging and deflecting the argument, rather than just admitting Obama was wrong makes you appear disconnected from reality.
Posted by: Jen B. | July 24, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
I don’t think Obama intentionally tried to cook up a pot of racial discord, I think he just spoke from his core beliefs. Those very beliefs nurtured and stoked in Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years. i love it when he goes off Teleprompter, extemporaneous ain’t his thing.
Posted by: ConservativeWoman | July 24, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
What I find most annoying is that the mayor, a black woman, the governor, a black man and the president, a black man were so quick to support Gates in his “racist” rants. So, yes Obama is right, this DOES highlight the racial issues of America, in the speed at which blacks will so very quickly try and use the race card. If anyone should apologize, it’s Gates for turning this into the circus it’s become.
Posted by: JR | July 24, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Does Obama drink beer?
Perhaps the President would be more at home sharing some bree and a sip of Bordeaux with the professor and the policeman?
Posted by: NYR | July 24, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
The only racist ones in this picture are the mayor, the governor, and Obama for backing the black Gates with no proof of wrongdoing on the white Police Officers part. To completely blame the arrest on race is a low road for Obama to take.
Why doesn’t Obama back the white fire fighters who were denied a promotion based on race? If they were black fire fighters you bet he would get in the mix.
Obama was supposed to transcend racial barriers but now he is contributing to the invisible racial wall that currently divides our nation.
Inviting the officer to come have a beer instead of apologizing for calling his actions stupid only shows his lack of humility. In order to lead you must serve, but the only serving Obama is doing is to his own agenda, one which obviously has racial overtones.
Posted by: Walter | July 24, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Our president made two mistakes:
1) Intruding into a local matter.
2) Assuming the policeman acted stupidly before he was tried and convicted–the very base of all that is precious in the US.
If he had not made even one of those mistakes he would not be in trouble now. Fuzzy Zeller was nearly taken off the PGA tour for mentioning fried chicken in the same breath with Tiger Woods. Our president has now mispoken TWICE (the Special Olympics correlation to his pitching the first baseball) with no consequences, and not even a REAL apology.
Posted by: Janet | July 24, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
“And can you see how indulging in making up stories about what Obama actually said ends up making you look untrustworthy and disconnected from reality?”
Nobody’s “making up stories about what Obama actually said”. THAT much is perfectly plain to everyone in the electronic universe.
I am the poster who put “stupid” in quotes, in the course of making the point that there’s not a lot of “calibration” or interpretation involved in understanding the meaning of ANY of the various forms of the word “stupid”.
If He’d been speaking as He usually does, Obama’d have used the nasty-nice word “inappropriately”. His use of “acting stupidly” was quite calculated — using ANY form of “stupid” is “fighting words” — to enrage.
If Obama weren’t beyond Himself, he’d have called a press conference this morning and made a statement something like the following:
“Oy, I’m an idiot! I stupidly misspoke. I have jet-lag/ADHD/a hangover/swine flu. I apologize to Sergeant Crowley and other officers involved in detaining Henry Louis Gates for disturbing the peace, and to their Department, and to peace officers everywhere. If I ever do something so stupid again — which I promise I will NOT — I will resign this office and order myself into indefinite detention at Gitmo.”
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
I WOULD HAVE HAD A BEER WITH OBAMA LAST YEAR. BUT NOT NOW. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED HE IS A TRAGEDY IN THE MAKING FOR THIS COUNTRY AND CITIZENS WHO VALUE THOSE INSTITUTIONS THAT HELPED MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT, NEED TO STAND UP AND BE HEARD!! IF OBAMA WERE SHARP HE WOULD REALIZE THAT ALL HE HAS DONE IS TO HAVE AWAKENED A SLEEPING GIANT. HE HAS NO CLUE ABOUT THE POWER OF HIS OPPOSITION.
Posted by: Jimbo | July 24, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Mr. Obama reminds me of a guy who punched me below the belt and says that he’s sorry because he missed hitting my head.
Posted by: young_voter | July 24, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Let’s think about Obama’s first comment–even though I don’t know all the circumstances of the incident, it’s the white man’s fault.
If the circumstance were reversed any other elected official would be working on his/her resignation speech.
Posted by: Jane | July 24, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I believe the apology that should be given by the President should be for jumping the gun the way he did. He admits he’s only hearing things, which means he hasn’t read any reports and most likely doesn’t have full facts. I am unsure whether I want to say this is an issue that the President should be involved in or not because I myself do not know the full details of what happened. However, if this was a situation that the President should have gotten involved in, I believe his words could have been chosen more wisely.
Posted by: Man from St. Paul | July 24, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
WHEN A POLICE OFFICER TELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING “YOU DO IT”, AFTER FIRST, CLOSING YOUR MOUTH. THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME FOR RECRIMINATIONS LATER. THE PROF “WAS” OUT OF LINE AND “STUPID” FOR MOUTHING OFF AND CREATING A DISTURBANCE. THE POLICE OFFICER HAD A “WHOLE LOT MORE” TO CONSIDER THAN THE “FEELINGS” OF THIS LOWLIFE PROFESSOR! AND OBAMA USED VERY POOR JUDGMENT IN CALLING THE POLICE DEPT “STUPID”, BUT, THEN HIS “POOR JUDGMENT” HAS COME IN THE RECENT PAST, NO? I JUST HOPE HE DOESN’T USE POOR JUDGMNT WHEN THE BAD GUYS COME BACK HERE TRYING TO KICK OUR BUTTS.
Posted by: Manitu | July 24, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
“any other elected official would be working on his/her resignation speech.”
From your keyboard to G-d’s ear!
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
“’They had a positive discussion during which the President told Gates about his call with Sgt. Crowley and statement to the media,’ The White House says in a written statement.”
What color is His crayon?
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Even O.J high-priced lawyers are unwilling and unable to defend Obama’s words and actions.
Posted by: No harm All Foul | July 24, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
When the president shoots his mouth off and makes a bad situation worse,then what chance does this country have to ever heal race relations?
Posted by: colleen | July 24, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
For pete sakes, with all the imporant things going on, this is so trival.I’m white(born in the iron triangle)and have seen so much crime from all races that this rates a 0.01 on a ricter scale of imporantence(come on).Although I would’nt mind a beer or two kickin it with the prez!!
Posted by: Chet Hardy | July 24, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Obama is using PopMedia’s megahorn to try to pressure and force this innocent Cop into back-filling Obama’s poll numbers through an appearance…at which Obama will once again become The One.
Posted by: bluecollarbytes | July 24, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
…a “teachable moment”..???? Physician heal THYSELF.
Posted by: bluecollarbytes | July 24, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
“Obama is using PopMedia’s megahorn to try to pressure and force this innocent Cop into back-filling Obama’s poll numbers through an appearance…at which Obama will once again become The One.”
Never again: The One is done. Just another lame duck trying to wear the glass slippers.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
In the U.S.A. it matters not if your white or black or any color in between except if it’s GREEN$$$
Posted by: Chet Hardy | July 24, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“Hey stupid, go fetch us Ivy Leaguers a couple of beers.”
Posted by: Woody | July 24, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
And they called Bush an idiot and moron. Obama stepped right into it, but he will learn. We are going to have a lot of fun over the next 3 1/2 years. Good luck and God Bless America.
Posted by: Freedtoo | July 24, 2009, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
“Hey stupid, go fetch us Ivy Leaguers a couple of beers.”
Sergeant Crowley went to Brandeis.
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Wasn’t this the guy the liberal media
sold to the American people as the
candidate and future president who would
transend race?
I’d say President Obama will be having
a couple of beers with the
Reverend Wright.
Wow they sure put one over on those
clueless sheep who voted for Obama!
2012 can’t come soon enough!
Posted by: reaganfan | July 24, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Lets face it to most of his critics if George Bush had said the same thing about a black cop and a white professor nothing would have been said. It would have been okay. Why do you people continue to discard his full heritage the woman who carried him went through labor and gave birth to him was white. He is not just another black man give his mother some respect and see him as you do every other white person perfect.
Posted by: Lady P | July 24, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
There is a story in the LA Times that says the CNN chief has sent an email to Lou Dobbs’ staff stating the birth certificate story is dead. Apparently he was told by Hawaiian officials that all paper copies of original birth certificates were destroyed in 2000-2001. So the computer generated abstract shown on the Internet is all that is available.
Can that be right? I wonder if before destroying all paper copies, they did not record them on micro-fiche, or scan them into an electronic format for archiving in a system such as documentum.
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
When the President can give the order to launch, the President needs to be someone smart enough to get all his facts right before opening his mouth. This President didn’t do that. He acted “stupidly” instead.
Posted by: Rob | July 24, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
When the President can give the order to launch, the President needs to be someone smart enough to get all his facts right before opening his mouth. This President didn’t do that. He acted “stupidly” instead.
Posted by: Rob | July 24, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
“if George Bush had said the same thing about a black cop and a white professor nothing would have been said.”
Maybe nothing would have been SAID — Cheney and all — but widespread spontaneous urban combustion might have given rise to odd bits of video on teevee …
Posted by: Bet Noir | July 24, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Bet Noir: “Sergeant Crowley went to Brandeis.”
My point exactly. To a Harvard grad (or any of the tradional eight Ivy League schools) Brandeis might as well be East Chapeepee State. Take it from someone who once worked at Brown University.
Posted by: Woody | July 24, 2009, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Forgive me, but weren’t the police officers doing what they are hired to do? Upscale neighborhood, police see someone breaking in a window…. wouldn’t we all have wanted them to intervene? No matter what color anyone was? And refusing to give identification? Oh, I forgot, Gates is so important that EVERYONE should know who he is, so he shouldn’t be required (like the rest of us peons) to give ID. And shouldn’t we all be treated the same way when interfering with the job of a police officer? Who cares what color anyone was? Gates screwed up! He did and said the wrong things, and behaved like a pompous ass, and now he’s going to play the race card. Now tell me who is perpetuating the divide between races? And for Obama to get involved at all was inappropriate. White cops arrest black citizens all over the US, and black cops arrest white citizens all over the US, and the President doesn’t get involved. Gates: admit you were out of line, and let it go! Don’t cheapen your ancestors by claiming that this was about race; it wasn’t.
Posted by: Concerned | July 24, 2009, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Our President had no right to comment on the situation!!!!
Stay in Washington, Help our Troops, Go to Jersey City were a police ofc was shot down!!!
Shut up and do your job!
Posted by: Jennifer Digiovanni | July 24, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
If anybody acted “stupidly,” it’s Obama. Opening his stupid mouth before he has the facts seems to be becoming a trend with this jerk. What I find more insulting, is how he always tries to deflect attention from his idiotic actions by throwing the economy or whatnot in our faces. Fess up to your own stupidity, Obama, and being more careful about who you make “friends” with might not hurt, either. The racist, unscrupulous and arrogant group you seem to hang with says a lot about you.
Posted by: jules | July 24, 2009, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
I think the tapes will tell what really happened. Let’s have the tapes!
Posted by: Terry | July 24, 2009, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Obama should have resigned when he bowed to a king. Utter idiot.
Posted by: tanarg | July 25, 2009, 12:04 am 12:04 am
“Professor Gates then entered his rear door with his key, turned off his alarm, and again attempted to open the front door. With the help of his driver they were able to force the front door open, and then the driver carried Professor Gates’ luggage into his home,” writes Gates’ lawyer.
In other words, if they’d carried the luggage in by the KITCHEN door, rather than breaking down the FRONT door . . .
Posted by: Driving Mr. Gates | July 25, 2009, 12:05 am 12:05 am
This morning I heard over the radio, that you felt you had to retract your comment made at your recent conference regarding the Cambridge Police Department. Personally I feel there are still too many haters,(like my daughter says in this world) and they look for any little things like this to bring attention to. I know you are the President and you need to be careful of what you say and do. But I don’t think you need to apologize. After all there more important issues.
Posted by: Laura Ruiz | July 25, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
I think the cop should tell Barrack O’Sama Bama to stick his beer where the sun doesn’t shine. O’bama was just trying to insite racial controversary where he thought the American people would stick up for him just because he’s the President. He’s failed at three of his promises and about to fail at another… the Healthcare issue… and I am thankful for that.
Posted by: Jeanne | July 25, 2009, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Professor Gates has just now agreed to the beer, as has Sergeant Crowley. Looks like its on!
The Republican taxpayers are getting the first round. I’ll cover it from there on in . ..
Posted by: danita | July 25, 2009, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Listen up you guys. I read the police report and some things don’t make sense. One was that the woman who called the police was told to stand directly in front of Mr. Gates house and she did so during the entire episode. Does this make sense??
And why would someone, especially one with a disability, be arrested on their own property for freedom of speech and taken to the police station.
Last, it is the media that is most likely to want to stir things up just for headlines, ratings and political purposes. They know race is a sticky issue.
Posted by: Karen | July 25, 2009, 1:34 am 1:34 am
I thought he was on track to help the country. If the white and black guys had been reversed, we would have never heard from the prezzzz! The leader of the country wasn’t there but he took the race card and ran with it on national television, against an entire police department that has came under real gunfire from real guns and criminals. I have personally had my life put in jeopardy, through a war, thieves and drug addicts. I would never do a policeman job, but thank god we have someone to do this for far too little pay. They have to size up the situation and make a split second decision, and they better be right, or they get sued or the leader of the country will name call them on national tv. HAS THE PRESIDENT EVER BEEN SHOT AT IN A WAR OR AS A POLICE OFFICER? I don’t know the answer to that one but I would guess he hasn’t. He needs to unite the country not play reverse discrimination!
Calibrate your words carefully Jim Crowley and tell him “hell no” to the beer offer at the White House.
Posted by: jomama | July 25, 2009, 1:55 am 1:55 am
Obama cajoles the cop with a White House trip, an cynical invitation whose acceptance carries with it an implied agreement of overreaction by all involved. Policeman sir, if you go, make sure Obama doesn’t try to put words in your mouth. Enjoy the 15 minutes of fame. Obama won’…cuz it’s his 15 of shame.
Posted by: tim | July 25, 2009, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Who cares about this nonsense anyway? The GOP is making a big deal to draw attention away from health care. The Fox has spoken of little else these last couple days. Ignore it.
Posted by: Olivia | July 25, 2009, 2:41 am 2:41 am
Terry – The birth certificate thing is CRAZY, desperate and a smoke screen to cover all the illegal activities of the last administration. The war was created on lies and, as a result, 5,000 Americans are dead (including my cousin), and thousands of others are maimed for life. Cheney said we went into Iraq to build a democracy. That is not the reason the war was sold to congress or to the country. If he is telling the truth for a change, and there is any truth to the recent stories of all the things they hid from congress – we need a full investigation of their activities. All, this BS being said about Obama cannot compare to what was done by Bush and his crew. I have written to all my representatives demanding a full investigation.
Posted by: Olivia | July 25, 2009, 3:06 am 3:06 am
look at what all of you have expressed as your view of the present state of race relations in this country. has everyone lost sight of the fact that you cant fight hate with hate?
Posted by: jim | July 25, 2009, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Sorry, I meant to add that anyone, no matter what party, who cares about justice, should write their representatives and demand that the actions taken by the last administration, regarding the war, be investigated. We deserve the truth.
Posted by: Olivia | July 25, 2009, 3:12 am 3:12 am
It’s so nice to finally have a president who can speak well. You never would have heard Bush try to weasel his way out of a monumental gaffe on national TV by using a word like “calibrated.”
Posted by: Jim Treacher | July 25, 2009, 3:36 am 3:36 am
And why did the President get involved in this minutia? Well, because the Mr. Gates is his friend! Now, if he is so busy, why is he using our tax-payers’ money (his salary) to handle personal affairs? I call it personal affairs because if I were arrested in this bombastic manner, the President wouldn’t even know about! Mr. Gates probably called him to complain!
Posted by: AGT-R | July 25, 2009, 8:40 am 8:40 am
I think this incident has highlighted a long overdue NEED for some REAL racial awareness. Before we can heal, we need to openly discuss all racial issues; otherwise, the racism will rear it’s ugly head in different, but nonetheless destructive ways.
Posted by: Julia | July 25, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am
AGT-R- Obama knew about it because it was all over the news. And if Bush was in office he would have never made a mistake (we knew about) because he never did more than a handful of press conferences during his whole presidency. The GOP has righteous indignation over everything unless it concerns the illegal activities during the Bush years. Let’s investigate those!
Posted by: Olivia | July 25, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Oh, a beer makes everything O.K. then. The fact that the President didn’t know the facts, but elected to tell our children on national T.V. that law enforcement acted stupidly should be of no concern at all.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | July 25, 2009, 10:26 am 10:26 am
ABC – demand the tapes. Get your lawyers on this, public information, freedom of information and all that. Play the tapes! I’ll have a party, everyone take a drink when the esteemed professor says something pompous.
Posted by: Jim | July 25, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am
And why did the President get involved in this minutia? Well, because the Mr. Gates is his friend!
Posted by: AGT-R
Why did Bush pardon ‘Scooter’ Libby, convicted felon, tried by an American jury and found guilty?
Why were so many Bush administration officials deathly afraid to take the oath and testify?
Posted by: Ripper | July 25, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
It may be a small thing but isn’t it possible that the labels don’t really help racial tensions? Do we really need to discern African American, Asian American, Scandanavian American….etc… Perhaps we should should all decide to be just Americans no matter where our heritage originated.
Posted by: Thomas | July 25, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Obama does alot of things to bring the nation together.Like contacting this officer directly.He still states that Dr.Gates should not have been arrested.I see alot of statements aainst him for saying the Cambridge Police Dept acted stupidly, well they did.He apologized for saying it publicly, but the fact still remains the Police Officer got his blood up and felt like arresting somebody.Obama just sugar coated it a bit.But he also stepped in to resolve it.Publicly.
Posted by: Melissa | July 25, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
The President got involved because he was asked a direct question and he is a very involed President. The people’s problem seems to be this President’s problem. Every citizen should be concerned that you can be arrested in your own home even after you have fully shown ID, and while having a witness to the fact. The picture showed that he was handcuffed coming out his front door. Do I think it was racial? No, I do not. But people need to discuss, listen and respect both the sides. White are quickly call the reverse discrimation card but only a few Whites been abused because of color of the skin. I am not just talking about adults, many black very young children, I know for a fact in the 60′s and 70′s had to run from school to home as the police, white adults and white childrene threaten and called names just because a black kids had to cross over a white neighborhood to get home. The President and many others need to get involved with the healing process that this nation needs. Keep in open mind America. I am proud the President and the two men who are willing to say they over reacted. This is a start. I do not know of a black famiy in America who has not directly faced racism. I believe in America, and I believe for most people attitudes are improving for the best. White people forgetting that The President is White also. Most black have white blood. Review your history and then you will begin to understand why it is hard of so many to forget thier fears or being beaten, rapte and forced to breed within the family, like animals to produce more slaves. They is one reason why people will forever think that are less than equal. The healing process must began but will never start if people are not willing to admit that the nation mindset must change.
Posted by: Mint | July 25, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
As far as I’m concerned it’s over. Gates became nationally known as race baiter, Obama showed he’s not perfect with normal personal biases (but has a tough time admitting it), and everybody understands it if they can get past their personal biases. Let’s move on now. But from everything I’ve heard, I do think Officer Jim Crowley deserves an apology.
Posted by: LongT | July 25, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Obama contacting and inviting Gates and Crowley was the right thing to do.
Posted by: LongT | July 25, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
The resolution is very simple provided all the attempts to rationale any point are dropped and focus on two true facts:
1. Professor Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct, i.e. would not stop his verbal disrespect to the police officer.
2. President Obama’s comment was a public and international comment and therefore his apology must be made public.
Posted by: Phil Collins | July 25, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
The president said it all when he
American people by the Liberal Media as
someone who would transend race.
Now that he has fooled the American
people and is our president his true
feelings are coming out.
President Obama should be having a beer
with the Rev Wright.
After all they have the share the
same philosophy.
2012 can’t come soon enough!stated that he didn’t know all the facts
of the case.
To use his own words he acted
“stupidly” by commenting on something
before knowing all the facts!
This is the man who was sold to the
Posted by: reaganfan | July 25, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
I notice the esteemed Prof. Gates has agreed to a beer so this incident can help out “racial profiling?”. Did it ever occur to this so called intelligent professor that if he had been white the situation would have had the same outcome? He grew belligerent and followed the officer outside when it could have been over and then blames the whole thing on “racial profiling”. How this man can still be respected in his professional capacity is beyond me. Please officer do not accept this invitation. This idiot will obviously use it to lord it over you and try to make you out as a fool.
Posted by: antoinette | July 25, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
I think disappointed best describes how I feel. Disappointed in a president that I had such high hopes of moving this nation past this issue. To watch two highly educated, respectable, law abiding men (Gates and Obama) both respond in the manner they did both amazes and saddens me.
The press conference with the president’s statement showed me that race does matter and clouds good judgment. Sadly the president just proved all the racists correct. The trust and hopes I placed in this president are gone and nothing he can do will ever change that.
Posted by: Cindy | July 25, 2009, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Don’t feel sorry for Gates. he will be a big hero at his meetings for the next 6 months, be a star on Oprah next week, publish his new book in August, and be awarded a Nobel Peac Prize for his work in rece relations by the end of the year. If he dose not make $1 million off this I will be surprised.
Posted by: Harrison | July 26, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am
I hope the good Sgt. won’t be agree to this until both Mr. Obama and Mr. Gate agree to make an unconditional apology. Other wise he cooperates in a moral blurring of the situation. Let’s hear the tapes!
Posted by: Terry | July 26, 2009, 12:25 am 12:25 am
So, Obama spoketh with Sergeant Jim Crowley adn comments, “I have to tell you that, as I said yesterday, my impression of him was that he was a outstanding police officer and a good man, and that was confirmed in the phone conversation. And I told him that.”, but then says that the officer who was making sure his house was safe and not being burglarized came out and verbally attacked him was right and the officer was wrong to have arrested a man whom was by accounts of other officers was out of control, was wrong. Good job Obama. Way to go. Thanks for revealing what you really are more succinctly. Some folks said you were to bring change or were different or mend race relations. Well, nobody mentioned that you would side with obvious race baiters. Well, some people did, but others said these people were wrong and you were not that way, but hahaha…. You proved them wrong. You were exactly the racist we were warned of. When rev Wright was exposed as the white hating racist he was and everyone knew he was your religious mentor, some told us that you are a product of Wright’s two decades of indoctrination in Black Liberation Theology. Others said, “Nah, just because Obama chose to worship this man’s racist religion doesn’t mean Obama believes it!” Wrong. It’s not the coincidence we were told it was. Obama spent half his life being taught in Wright’s church. It shows.
Posted by: TexBork009 | July 26, 2009, 1:20 am 1:20 am
There is no crime described in Crowley’s official version of the way Gates behaved. Crowley says explicitly that he arrested Gates for yelling. Nothing else, not a single threatening movement, just yelling. On the steps of his own home. Yelling is not a crime. Yelling does not meet the definition of disorderly conduct in Massachusetts. Not a single shouted word or action that Crowley has attributed to Gates amounts to disorderly conduct. That is why the charges had to be dropped.
In classically phony police talk, Crowley refers to “[Gates'] continued tumultuous behavior.” When cops write that way, you know they have nothing. What is tumultuous behavior? Here’s what it isn’t: he brandished a knife in a threatening manner, he punched and kicked, he clenched his fist in a threatening manner, he threw a wrench or, in the Gates house, maybe a book. If the subject does any of those things, cops always write it out with precision. When they’ve got nothing, they use phrases that mean nothing. Phrases like tumultuous behavior.
Unless you confess to a crime,or threaten to commit a crime, there is nothing you can say to a cop that makes it legal for him to arrest you. You can tell him he is stupid, you can tell him he is ugly, you can call him racist, you can say anything you might feel like saying about his mother. He has taken an oath to listen to all of that and ignore it. That is the real teachable moment here — cops are paid to be professionals, but even the best of them are human and can make stupid mistakes.
Posted by: danita | July 26, 2009, 2:46 am 2:46 am
This meeting shouldn’t happen unless it’s made perfectly clear that the wrongdoing was on Gates and Obama’s part. They cannot use Sgt. Crowley as a stand-in for historical wrongs. Law enforcement needs to be respected, and the president has already conveyed the idea that it’s understandable for African Americans to be uncooperative with law enforcement, and that he will back them up. He needs to correct that misperception.
An “honest” dialogue on race can’t happen as long as whites are assumed at the outset of being racist, and made to prove they are not. Gates will be lucky if Crowley doesn’t sue his pants off for the defamation.
Posted by: jordan | July 26, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am
How this man can still be respected in his professional capacity is beyond me.
Posted by: antoinette
hey, if the country was able to elect/be selected old ‘W’ for president, anything is possible..
Bush was the least respected man in the world next to Saddam, Kim, and Bin Laden
Posted by: Yo | July 26, 2009, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
It seems that the only professional one out of the three in this situation was the police officer. The rest seem to be flying by the seat of their pants. Get with it you two. We have enough issues without you both creating more.
Posted by: kevin | July 26, 2009, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Ripper SAID “Why did Bush pardon ‘Scooter’ Libby, convicted felon, tried by an American jury and found guilty? Why were so many Bush administration officials deathly afraid to take the oath and testify?”
————————————
You, my friend are right on! Scooter Libby is the tip of the iceburg when it comes to the past administration. I would love to see a full investigation of all their activities. Like Cheney’s comment that we went to Iraq to create a democracy. Isn’t that nation building? I thought we went because there were all those weapons of MD. The truth is coming out and will continue to come out. There never were any weapons. Think about it. Iran is sitting next door working on nuclear capability. All your neighbors hate your guts. Would you not pretend to have weapons so that they would not know you cannot defend yourself? That is exaclty what Saddam Hussein did. He knew he could not win another war with Iran. The big question is did Bush and company know that. I want an investigation to find out. 5,000 dead and thousands maimed is too many not to know what we went to war for.
Posted by: Olivia | July 26, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Totally aside from who was right or wrong between the professor and the policeman, on many different levels it was totally inexcusable for Obama to have commented on the situation as he did. He threw huge amounts of gasoline on what was otherwise a small fire. Not just in calling the police stupid, but also with the ‘joke’ about how he’d get shot if he tried to break into ‘his’ house {news flash, its OURS not his!}.
He is the President of the United States, representing ALL of our citizens, not just his friends, not black vs white. It is totally inappropriate for the president to use the power of his office and the bully pulpit that comes with it to attack private individuals. Its disgraceful and beneath the dignity of the office.
He is supposedly a lawyer – yet he prejudiced an ongoing legal situation. At the time, Gates was threatending lawsuit – how could they possibly find an unbiased jury after Obama injected himself into the situation as he did?
Obama should offer a REAL apology. As trivial as it seems, Kudo’s to McCotter for attempting to use the checks and balances our constitution affords to rein the President in on this one.
Right after Obama said “I don’t have all the facts” the next words should have been “it would be entirely inappropriate for me to comment.” and that would have been that. Coming from the President, his comments were inappropriate, inexcusable, knee-jerk reaction (or agenda based), inflammatory, and racially biased.
As to Gates {Professor} v. Crowley {Sergent/Policeman}. Certainly there are police who abuse their power. There are also those with chips on their shoulders or alterior motives, who are happy to abuse police who are NOT acting inappropriately. It goes both ways.
As to the charges being dismissed. Maybe the police decided it was an over-reaction. However, I gather the majority of those sorts of charges are dismissed, the arrest itself having calmed the situation and ensured it didn’t escalate, and seen as enough of a punishment for a minor incident. Or maybe higher powers forced the dismissal inappropriately. Would be interesting to know which, but who knows. It certainly doesn’t prove Gates case as many have claimed it does.
One might want to seriously consider that Gates has ALREADY talked about doing a documentary on this issue TO INCLUDE IN A LARGER DOCUMENTARY HE IS ALREADY DOING ON RACIAL PROFILING. That was awfully quick. Gates surely had something to be gained were he the victim of racial profiling, before the officer ever arrived. Gee, I wonder if the president of the US commenting on this in a prime time news event might help that documentary along?
Furthermore, its quite interesting that almost immediately after the police department stated that they were considering releasing the 911 call AND recordings from Sgt. Crowley’s keyed mic while he was at the scene, suddenly Gates goes from screaming about racial profiling and threatening lawsuit to “move along, nothing to see here.” Suddenly he thinks this has gotten enough attention and its time to move on. Interesting. Goes a long way towards removing any benefit of the doubt I had extended towards Gates, and increases the benefit of the doubt I give Sgt. Crowley. I hope the police DO publicly release those tapes. I doubt they will, but one can hope.
Further note that one of the people who had congregated at the scene, a neighbor of Gates, has stated on the record that Gates was acting belligerently outside the house prior to the arrest.
Further note that there were police officers there not only from Sgt. Crowley’s department, but also Harvard — and one of the officers with Sgt. Crowley was black, another Hispanic. The black officer has stated, on the record, that he supports Crowleys’ actions 100%, and that Gates was behaving strangely.
Fortunately this one isn’t likely to be a he said vs. he said — or even a he said vs. police said, since the neighbor (a woman) who called in the apparent burglary along with 6 or 7 other neighbors all wound up there and witnessed the arrest.
Oh, and a neighbor sees two people trying to force my front door, calls the cops, and the cops show up suspecting I’m a burglar? Cops suspicious and careful to protect themselves reasonably too? I’m HAPPY. Maybe nervous until the cops are sure that I do belong there, and I’d certainly make sure they saw I was no threat to them, and then I’d explain and it was me forcing my own door and show ID to prove it. For heavens sake, I WANT my neighbors looking out for my property against possible thieves, just as I would for theirs. I sure WANT the police to respond to 911 burglary calls and then making SURE that the people they are talking to belong there and aren’t burglars!! So Obama’s “we’d all be mad if it was in our house” WRONG. Most of us would NOT, we would be GLAD.
Posted by: And Atlas Shrugs Yet Again | July 26, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Someone else’s post below: There is no crime described in Crowley’s official version of the way Gates behaved. Crowley says explicitly that he arrested Gates for yelling. …. — cops are paid to be professionals, but even the best of them are human and can make stupid mistakes.
Is from the time’s article: Viewpoint: The Stupidity of the Gates Arrest
By Lawrence O’Donnell, Jr.
Of course, if you’re going to try that one, you ought to also try the counter point — which I believe has a bit more basis in the law behind disorderly conduct arrests.
Its also times: The Gates Case: When Disorderly Conduct is a Cop’s Judgment Call
By Bonnie Rochman Saturday, Jul. 25, 2009
Posted by: And Atlas Shrugs Yet Again | July 26, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
p.s., Bush refused to pardon Libby. After Libby served something like 4 years for a questionable memory of a single call/conversation that occurred years before, with no crime committed, just a question of whether the conversation did or didn’t occur and Libby having apparently forgotten it in his initial Grand Jury testamony = 4 years of your life in prison, then Bush commuted the remainder of his sentence. That’s a far cry from a pardon.
Posted by: And Atlas Shrugs Yet Again | July 26, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
ABC News deliberately distorted
my post.
The president had it right when he said
that he didn’t know all the facts
of the case!
He acted “stupidly” when he put
himself in the middle of something he
knew little about.
President Obama was sold to the
American People by the Liberal Media
as someone who would transend race.
Well it appears that he should be
having a beer with Rev Wright because
they and their media allies sure
put one over on the American People!
Posted by: reaganfan | July 27, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I just hope that during this “learning moment” that Professor Gates can learn that it’s not acceptable in 21st century America to automatically assume that every white police officer you encounter is racist.
Posted by: dbs | July 28, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
I am sick to death by this event. Professor Gates GROSSLY over-reacts, and we are talking about how we can “learn from this”. They’re holding commissions and investigations.
I can save them a lot of time: Professor Gates made an idiot of himself. A police officer had probable cause to believe that a felony was in progress and asked for identification. Probable cause is all you need–you don’t need a warrant. I think he excersized incredible restraint by keeping his gun holstered.
Professor Gates, here’s a teaching moment for you: when a police officer requests your ID, provide it without talking back. That gets most anyone arrested, black or white.
Then, when presented with a Harvard ID, which does not show address and amounts to little more than a glorified hall pass, Officer Crowley calls the Harvard Police to verify Professor Gates is the authorized resident. Nothing unusual there.
However, yell and threaten a police officer, after he has warned you that your behavior was disorderly, even if he is in your own home (remember, probable cause–he has a reason and a right to be there), and that is by definition disorderly conduct.
Nothing wrong here. Just an over-paid elitist black professor making a total fool of himself.
It’s telling how quickly now Obama and Gates just seem to want this to disappear…
Posted by: dave | July 28, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Law enforcement is over any power from President or professor.
No one has such power or reason can yell or abuse the law enforcement.
This is the hope of this multi-race country and what our tax paid for.
Posted by: Diane Wang | July 28, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
I do think there are far more important business matters that should be at the top of the priorities but the first mistake was for obama to even be involved with it than to use a poor choice of words and use in a professional setting a professional adititude should be used. Remeber that old saying if you cant say anything nice keep your mouth shut. And now we are teaching kids to solve our problems by opening a beer. This is another history maker president offering beer for an apology. Where is the love where is the backbone of integrity. Need I say more. Alot of people die from DUI’s and this is a not so wise choice from the so called leadership. This country was founded on the Bible and we are still a christian nation.
Posted by: Debra Puckett | July 29, 2009, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Come over for a beer? How low brow. What trailer are they going to meet in?
Posted by: Laura | July 29, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
I agree with Laura. What message are the sending to our children? Couldn’t they have a discussion over Coke, Pepsi, etc., or maybe even water.
Posted by: Sandy | July 30, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
i believe that obama is wrong for saying it was the policemans fault. i mean the black man was breaking down his own door to get in and someone called the police. if someone WAS burglarizing his home and the police didnt come at all then he would have been crying that the police dont care about black peoples home. I WONDER if obama gave them old english malt liquor
Posted by: danny | January 1, 2010, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm