President Obama Threatens to Veto Intelligence Bill

Obama can veto whatever bill he pleases. Why the worried speculation?

Thanks for calling this to our attention. This administration lives in the closet and would never admit fault. We all should continue to put pressure on them..

Obama has seen the writing on the wall–Democrats want to go after Bush and everyone who gave legal advice on treatment and interrogation of detainees. He wants to make sure no one comes after him that way. How’s that for “transparency in government”? He already takes only pre-approved questions from pre-approved individuals. He already imposed a gag rule on health insurance companies, explicitly telling them “If you mount any sort of PR campaign against the government plan for healthcare, we will not work with you at all on it.” Not pretty stuff. But hey, he’s a cool guy and a great speaker so we’ll just ignore the rest.

“top Repiblican”…come on, start over…

Obama has seen the writing on the wall–Democrats want to go after Bush and everyone who gave legal advice on treatment and interrogation of detainees. He wants to make sure no one comes after him that way. How’s that for “transparency in government”? He already takes only pre-approved questions from pre-approved individuals. He already imposed a gag rule on health insurance companies, explicitly telling them “If you mount any sort of PR campaign against the government plan for healthcare, we will not work with you at all on it.” Not pretty stuff. But hey, he’s a cool guy and a great speaker so we’ll just ignore the rest.
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What was it he did last week, something about not making public the logs that show who’s running in and out of the White House? He’s probably got his Bilderberg buddies in there discussing policy.

Translation: Obama wants to make sure he doesn’t have to answer to anyone. What we should expect from a communist dictator.

If this provision results in the planning and reasoning behind the Iraq war under Bush the Repubs must be heaving a huge sigh of relief that Obama is taking this stance.

Bad English, abcnews.com. This is the second article I have read that contains typographical errors. Not professional at all.

Are you guys not able to read? This story is about the National Security Act of 1947. That’s 1947 folks. 60 years ago.
Obama has already signed several executive orders rescinding provisions his predecessor decreed in order to keep his (Bush’s) activities a secret.
And Obama is NOT talking about instituting new policies to keep secrets.
But there always have been, and always will be, things regarding our national security that cannot be general knowledge. How effective do you think the A-bomb on Hiroshima would have been had the Japanese known about it 6 months in advance? How effective do you think the anti-terrorist provisions we have in place would be if Al Quaida had access to them?
A lot of things in our government operate on a “need to know” basis. Transparency in government doesn’t mean that the American public needs to know every detail about every thing. We elect office holders with the understanding that we don’t micro-manage them. If they exploit our trust in them, they don’t get elected next time.
The President of the United States, whether that’s Barack Obama or any other president, has a duty to keep some things to himself.

Posted by: Hemi | Jul 8, 2009 9:47:00 PM
Just continued Chicago thuggery from the experts. After all these years, it’s second nature. Besides, when you spend your whole political career running for the next elected office, and never actually accomplish anything, you have plenty of time to practice your “dirty tricks.”
And Bill Ayers was “just a guy in the neighborhood.”

Yeah I can understand why you wouldnt want people in general to know what the executive branch is doing but WHY NOT CONGRESS. Something is up people!! You watch! I smell a scandal!!!

“President Obama Threatens to Veto Intelligence”

Ole BO is at it again.. the ole do as I say not as I do routine… BO is one BIG liar…….

Does Obama live in the same America as everyone else? The country is hemmoraging 500,000 jobs a month. We are in “The Great Recession”. Companies are scared to death of hiring anyone because of the threat of ‘cap and trade’ (thanks Obama) and that they will be taxed and forced to pay for all employees health care (again thanks a lot Obama). Having been a consultant for 10 years I know this is supposed to be the ‘busy time’ when companies hire (before letting everyone go at Christmas laying them off). Well guess what they arent hiring and there will still be a huge Christmas layoff. When no one is buying stuff (real estate, cars, retail products in general) in January February 2010…what do you think will happen to the stock market? Unemployed people will max out the credit card to give junior & sis a decent christmas. Then what? When April 2010 comes and we are at 15% unemployment what do you think Uncle Sam will do to recoup his missing income tax revenue. All I can say is save every dime you have and be very thrifty we are in for a heck of a downturn, massive tax increases and inflation by then.

guesswhaturwrong, what does any of your last post have to do with this article?
(Or maybe you think that “executive privilege” means Obama can somehow just poop jobs?)

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Nation,why print and worry what this idiot we have does every day.Lets have him empeached,as he is ruining the great USA.

guesswhaturwrong, yes, I did read your posts. Did you read mine where I said that most things in our government are based on a “need to know” basis?
There are currently 535 members in the United States Congress. There are some things 535 people don’t need to know, particularly when they are just at the “advisement” stage.
Currently, the president is only required to report on some matters of national security to the “Gang of Eight” – the Speaker of the House, the House Minority Leader, the Senate Democratic and Republican Leaders, and the top Democrat and top Repiblican in both the House and Senate Intelligence Committee. NOT the entire congress. (Because there are some national security concerns that don’t need to be spread around to 535 people.
What Obama is objecting to is having to disclose “legal advice and deliberations” to the “Gang of Eight.” (Again, not the entire congress.)
If you had actually read the article, you would also see that it specifically says, “Administrations of both political parties have long recognized the importance of protecting the confidentiality of the Executive Branch’s legal advice and deliberations.”
That means that if Obama is just thinking about something — hasn’t decided about any of it but it just thinking about it — and he wants to bring in some legal experts to tell him whether what he’s thinking about is even possible or practical, he doesn’t have to share his thoughts yet.
For example, let’s say that Obama was wondering what, if anything, the US could LEGALLY do about this situation with the coup in Honduras. He could talk to his legal advisers and ask them, without having to share his thoughts with anyone else. Only if he decided that he actually wanted to DO anything about it, would he need to go to the “Gang of Eight” first, and then get congressional approval before implementing a plan.
Basically, guesswhaturwrong, what it means is that there are certain THOUGHTS that every president can have that don’t have to be shared with anybody he doesn’t want to share them with.
Which is as it should be.

guesswhaturwrong, what does any of your last post have to do with this article? Posted by: Jaylah | Jul 8, 2009 11:25:36 PM
Nothing wrong with posting whatever you want. It’s done all the time here and Jake & Company don’t seem to mind. It’s hard when only a small amount of topics are posted each day and there is no Open Thread. Are you new?

Traffic Cop Timmy and guesswhaturwrong, if you want to bash Obama and the current government, head over to the story about “$18M Being Spent to Redesign Recovery.gov Web Site” and I’ll join you. :)

Even MSNBC, Obama’s admirer, during his election run, are realizing that he’s a very good liar,
“WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama promised to fix health care and trim the federal budget deficit, all without raising taxes on anyone but the wealthiest Americans. It’s a promise he’s already broken and will likely have to break again.”

What happened to Obama’s “transparency” promise??
Oh yeah, that was when he was on the campaign trail, lying to ALL of us.
Why does it NOT surprise me that Obama has threatened to use his veto authority to 1) any bill that authorizes the no-strings-attached expenditure of tax revenues (keep us dependent), and 2) any bill with the word “intelligence” in it (keep us stupid)?

I love it. The Obambots are seeing just how much their vote is destroying America. Good job sheep.

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More of same ole same ole Bush or is it really the Council on Foreign Relations which has infiltrated Repub and now Dem parties with intent to subvert the country and Constitution? Obama’s brain is Zbigniew Brzezinski who is a warmonger and started the CFR and Trilateral for his master Rockafella. They hate democracy and work to destroy the politics and economy all the while playing the American People as fools.
Are we fools or have we been played by secret cults that infiltrated the Government and planted treasonous people on both sides of the political ticket while disabling the Justice Department and Courts the reason we have no law enforcement for War Crimes, Torture, Financial Crimes, etc.?
To stop the cults is simple which would try for treason anyone involved in cults with oaths to destroy democracy such as CFR (Cheney, Obama & almost every other candidate from last election except Ron Paul and Mike Gravel), Skull and Bones (both Bush & Kerry), Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergers. Try and Fry is the way to prevent them from committing these crimes against hard working Americans, as fear from hanging is a good deterrent, as always nooses free
We are in the midst of a coup on the US that began with the Business Plot and since the failure there they have been plotting and planning their demented scheme, note all the players of that Coup are the same families and companies involved in destroying our country in the last years. Obama and his wife are CFR, Zbigniew well his father is credited with starting WWII and if you watch MSNBC his daughter Mika spews his garbrage out daily attempting to start war with Iran as the Iraq war did not go so well (unless you are Rockafella and oil prices surged or Haliburton of Dubia). Zbigniew now appears weekly on his Propaganda channel and Richard Haas pres of CFR visits once a week with Austan Dean Goolsbee (Skull & Bones) Obama Economic Advisor to brainwash the American Sheep. Turn these tv bobbleheads off, what does Mika have in journalistic integrity, nothing.
Wake up America your government has become a joke, demand justice and accountability, force the cults to the light, fear not these greed and warmongers taking our country into the abyss in their delusions of grandeur. Try them, demand true justice, not truth commissions but war crime trials or you have surrendered the Democracy to Nazism and your children will pay the price. Where’s Eric Holder, where’s justice to Wall Street Crimes, where’s Justice to “too big to fail” (this would be called Antitrust and breaking up too big), these spoiled rotten New World Order freaks need to tried for the crimes called Treason and Hung at Dawn.
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I’m glad to see Obama is willing to use his veto pen more than Bush did. I think signing anything that landed on his desk hurt Bush in the long run.
And I think this is a matter where Obama is right. Yes, we are all for transparency, but then again, some things need to remain private in order for people to do their jobs properly. I have no problem with Obama resisting attempts to give the Gang of 8 even more information on internal matters. Security info is one thing, internal debates on policy is another.
See, sometimes I agree with the prez!

I agree with Obama on this. However, he had better look into our Homeland Security after several GAO workers were able to penetrate so-called “security” in a Federal Building no less. Our National Security is at risk right here in our own Capitol. Homeland Security is a joke now since GWB combined every department and no one knows what the hay they are doing now.

Homeland Security is a joke now since GWB combined every department and no one knows what the hay they are doing now. Posted by: Ron | Jul 9, 2009 9:52:17 AM
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So when they were all separate no one knew what they were doing and when they were combined no one knew what they were doing. That tell you anything about the govt?
So let’s apply what we’ve learned here and create universal health care run by the govt! What could go wrong?

I still think its wrong that President Obama demanded 100% government transparency from G.W. Bush and government and now that Congress wants to know what the executive branch is doing he wants a veto of the bill. I am sorry but you’re still wrong. Why shoudnt congress be aware of all national security issues? Otherwise why do we even have a congress if they are clueless.

I heard something on the radio about the CIA admitting the have lied over the years. Not sure what the context was. It was just a teaser on the radio.

Traffic Cop Timmy and guesswhaturwrong, if you want to bash Obama and the current government, head over to the story about “$18M Being Spent to Redesign Recovery.gov Web Site” and I’ll join you. :) Posted by: Jaylah | Jul 9, 2009 12:06:44 AM
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Unprecedented Transparency 2.0:
“ABC reports this morning that the Maryland firm Smartronix has won what seems like an enormous $18 million contract to re-design the Recovery.gov website. Approximately $9.5 million would be spent by January in order to make “Recovery 2.0″ out of the site that is at least supposed track the spending of federal stimulus funds in detail.
“Smartronix, a medium-sized Maryland-based firm (over 500 employees) founded in 1995, boasts a large number of government clients, mostly military. The company appears to have just one important political connection: according to FEC records, Smartronix president, Mohammed Javaid, vice president Alan Parris, and partner John Parris have together given $19,000 to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D) since 1999.”

The only branch of government I trust less than the Executive Branch is the Legislative Branch. Neither has acted in ways that earn the trust and confidence placed in them by the American people. With the ascension of Sotomayor to the Judicial Branch, it looks like that branch too is going the way of all flesh.