Robert Gibbs Is The Zodiac Killer.com

Stranger and stranger — Gates’ celebrity DNA mission to China was on Inkwell.
“Inkwell was started by Gates in 2005 … It reported no activities until 2007, when it raised $205,543 and spent $27,600, state and federal filings show. The payments to Kendall and Wolf were among the foundation’s largest — only four of 23 Inkwell grants exceeded $500.”

I agree…..just show the full length birth certificate, your pass port documents and your college transcripts and be done with it.
This story would rest, except for the small % of die hard people who just refuse to get it.
The more he keeps hiding this information the more “guilty” he looks. Just show the information so this story can move on. You are giving people to much ammunition to use against you by purposly refusing to show it.

This is an example more of Obama’s slickness than his arrogance.
He’s very slick to use his own arrogance to let there be another distraction just like pulling the race card and cause a stir to take away attention to his healthcare agenda that in his head will make him remembered as making history. He doesn’t care about race relations or anyone’s health. He only cares about him.

I like how even though the news has shown his birth certificate on several occasion nobody believes he is still a natural citizen. Tell me how he can prove he citizenship?

Made up fictional nonsense.
A perfect description of Obama’s campaign.
He promised everything and has delivered nothing.
Officer Crowley deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for indirectly exposing Obama for who he really is–Rev Wright’s
star student.

that’s hilarious…but gibbs isn’t smart enough to have been the zodiac killer.

When Obama came out here to visit his Grandmother before she died, the Governor Linda Lingle was busy sealing all his records. Why?

How did Obama got to Pakistan on a US Passport? When he went you could not travel to Pakistan with a US passport. How did he do it?

Obama doesn’t need to show anything! Stop the insanity people. If you don’t like it then move to another country. You are wasting valuable time!! This is utter nonsense. Go back to hiding under your beds!
Or, keep it coming and show the world just how stupidly Americans act. It’s no wonder you cling to your guns and bibles.

As far as I can tell, the GOP has reduced itself to insanity and utter nonsense. We need an alternative party that talks sense and raises real and sensible, not fictitious issues and arguments. But clearly, a party that is dominated by folks like Limbaugh, Palin, Boener, and Gingrich is doomed.

How did he get an Indonesian passport?

“When Obama came out here to visit his Grandmother before she died, the Governor Linda Lingle was busy sealing all his records. Why?”
Nope.
Those are privacy laws that protect anyone’s records including Obama’s.
The Republican Governor had nothing to do with it.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

“Or… there could be embarassing information on the birth certificate such as daddy ain’t who we’ve been saying he is. (Imagine how Obama’s publisher would react to that.”
ROFLMAO!
The COLB validated by the State has Obama’s father’s name on it!

The idiots talk about a birth certificate, while families are homeless, people are losing their jobs, kids are hungry, all right here in America. Go do something constructive! President Obama is the real deal, get over it.
Your hate and racism are getting on the nation’s last nerve!

Let me ask the nitwits on here that think this is a real story… If you mother was on vacation in Europe, South America…where ever she might have been when she gave birth to you…would you not be a natural born citizen of the US? YES YOU WOULD. Hence John McCain was considered a citizen and he was born in Panama. How do I know this? I was born in Germany to American parents and held two passports and birth certificates. The US birth certificate was only a “Souvenir” and not official because the hospital issued a German certificate. To this day my German certificate is my primary certificate but I’m still a natural born American. I served in the Marine Corps for over 10 years as an American citizen and had a DOD passport issued to me with my German birth certificate being used as proof I was American. I have two friends that are now living in London. They had a child two years ago. Is she not American because they were over there at the time of birth? No…she is. Regardless of where Obama was born, his mother was a US citizen and hence he is by proxy.

Wonder if the “idiots” who talk about a birth certificate are doing so while an unvetted, possibly illegitimate, “president” rushes through policies and legislation that contribute to families losing their homes, people losing their jobs, and kids going hungry, all right here in America?
This president and his aides are all about taking political advantage of crises.

Devil Mutt – but the key distinction is this: only one of Obama’s parents was a citizen — if he was born in his father’s homeland, that would give him dual citizenship – that’s a bit different from automatic natural born citizen status. Dual citizen children usually have to claim a country of citizenship by the time they turn 18 (but rules vary by country). If he had been born in Kenya, Obama would have been a citizen of both the US and Kenya during his childhood.
Growing up in Maine, near the Canadian border – I knew a lot of dual citizen kids who had one parent who was a Candian citizen and another who was a US citizen. Usually these kids were born in the US but retained their Canadian citizenship (which entitled them to certain benefits) throughout their childhood.
I agree that Obama was most likely born in Hawaii and is a natural born citizen, but using the analogy of an American being born on a military base is not appropriate in this case – it’s like comparing peanuts to mangoes.

Gibbs says for $15. you can get a site and say anything you want…like he is disgusted or detests it…I guess freedom of speech is only relevant when he spews his propoganda

“This is a non-issue to me, but when signing my kids up for a Social Security number and later, Little League and Soccer, a “Certificate of Live Birth” was not allowed – only a “Birth Certificate”. Don’t know if this state (Nevada) makes an exception for someone born in the state of Hawaii, though”
Hmmm that is quite odd.
From the Little League website regarding tournament play (which they take even more seriously)
“All tournament participants are required to provide a government-issued birth document certifying the participant’s date of birth. The issue date (or record date, registration date, file date, etc.) of the original birth registration document must be within 30 days of the date of birth”
From the Social Security Administration:
“We can accept only certain documents as proof of U.S. citizenship. These include a U.S. birth certificate, U.S. consular report of birth, U.S. passport, Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship.”
The COLB issued by Hawaii is the only birth certificate issued by Hawaii since 2001.
Are you really trying to claim that no one from Hawaii has signed up for Social Security since then?
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Well Gibbs said it and posted some fake birth certificate so we should just listen and accept it…Folks he is the Manchurian candidate and if you watch him carefully every now and then he slips up and the true Obama comes out unscripted…everyone is having buyers remorse believe me he is in over his head here

Anyone see the gallup polls? The widely poll toted by Gibbs and WH? It’s six points off Rasmussen but still 54% approval rating. People are beginning to wake up and see reality. Through all of this, the end result remains to be seen and taht will be when he runs for re-election. It may be a Carter era and one term if he continues down the path he is. If he does great, well, we all somehow must have benefitted, right? We can TRY to have a little faith w/ our eyes wide open. I’m SOOO tired of hate and anger. It solves nothing…

“Obama’s half sister, who was born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian “certificate of Live Birth”. There is no question she was not born here, yet she has the same certificate. What’s up with that?”
Nope that was a photoshop job posted by TechDude to supposedly prove Obama forged his COLB.
Birthers lie so much even their photshopped COLBs are being passed around as evidence.

why does obama’s sister, who was born in Indonesia, have a Hawaiian “certificate of live birth”?

“why does obama’s sister, who was born in Indonesia, have a Hawaiian “certificate of live birth”?”
–> Don’t ask, don’t tell . . .
Maybe it was Obama’s Mama’s Ford Foundation connection?

“Folks he is the Manchurian candidate and if you watch him carefully every now and then he slips up and the true Obama comes out unscripted”
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Oh those EVIL Democrats! How insidious! How corrupt! How evil!
And Obama – the devil’s spawn!
Taking over the country!
Evil!

Here’s an idea for all you “birthers” out there–order a copy of your own birth certificate and see what you get. You’ll get a Certificate of Live Birth. I’m 50, born in Maryland, and last year I had to order a copy of mine–I received a Certificate of Live Birth. I had to order a copy of my daughter’s–28 and born in Texas. I received a Certificate of Live Birth. Try it yourself and see.

“Ryan…. I am looking at my children’s birth certificates from the state of Texas in 2004 (they were born in ’99 & ’99), which was the last time I purchased their birth certificates.”
I am looking on line and Texas says they offer a short form birth certificate and a long form one.
You claimed Texas only accepts the long form.
If so, why would they even offer a short form?
“Public schools and sports leagues REQUIRE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATES!!!!!!”
Little league only requires a government issued birth certificate.
According to Texas Education Association on their official website, this is what is acceptable for proof of age to attend kindergarten.
The documents considered acceptable for proof of identification and age are:
1. Birth certificate;
2. Passport;
3. School ID card, records, or report card;
4. Military ID;
5. Hospital birth record;
6. Adoption records;
7. Church baptismal record; or
8. Any other legal document that establishes identity.
Nothing there about long vs short form.

Jake….hot news flash….both Ann Coulter and the new leader of the GOP….gosh…forgot his name….you know, the guy on the radio…convinced me! Obama came down to earth on a cloud…when the GOP speaks, a few listen.

All’s he or anyone else need do to read real investigative detail on The Great 0′s ineligibility is to visit the World Net Daily website. Not only will he not produce any real BC, he won’t produce even school or medical records – Nothing that would validate his eligibility.
If she takes stock in the Hono Advertiser’s birth posts, let me add that we lived there many years and HI is much more corrupt than NJ or Chicago. They are very Asian, and very anti-white, too. I remember when they were discussing the legislation on the COLB process, some thought it a good idea because fellow, poor, cheaply-paid immigrant Filipino sugar cane workers could thusly avail themselves of social services & entitlements. But then when it was brought up that such could potentially allow some foreign & hostile agent to become President, they all passed it in a rush.
To post ads in a newspaper is as old as espionage craft gets. That such is being touted merely shows the length that has been gone to to create this “Legend” for his supposed past. That hordes of ACORN types are on the net humiliating and harassing conservatives who want to know should tell you something. (They ALWAYS attack a person’s “Mental State,” and use buzz words like “Birther.” Pure PSYOPS like the CHICOMS pay similar hordes to do so on their internet.)
But for me, personally, I’m burdened with knowing what I know about some high-ranking corrupt & that I was ordered to ground with. And yet nothing keeps happening. Again, signifying how successful the CHICOMS have been in infiltrating at the top, and controlling open speech and media.
Yet, I can tell you the CIA knew in ’77 that the young Barry Soetono was being groomed for this position, and this agenda, as an “Economic Manchurian Candidate.” That they would be waging economic and every other kind of war on us in then coming decades, and have. That they would decimate our military’s ability to defend our borders by bleeding our economy to death in 1000 small cuts, exactly as Congress has done.
Then, again, that’s why the CIA let him in, for in that it’ll be so easy to take him out: Ineligibility. What the Dir. told me back then, was, “How do you lure ALL the moles out?” In your usual pre-war spy ring clean-ups?
“Simple,” he said with a smile. “Just hoist a Barry Soetono up the flagpole & see who salutes.”
And the way to flush Congress out is equally easy and immanent: Bring me forth as witness to Gary Condit’s 33-year-long “Sexual Political Disposal Service” he’s provided to the high-ranking corrupt, and infiltrated Congress, himself that way.
I’ve got to rewrite My Life In Espionage to read more well, but the gems of truth still glitter in the haystack for any competent investigator to find at
“Telling the truth during times of universal deceit will be a revolutionary act.” George Orwell, “1984″

Ryand and Jenny. I was born in Texas in 1974. I retrieve my birth certificate in 1992 and it has all of the iformation on it that my childrens have, they were born in 1998 and 1999. I retrieve their birth certificates again in 2004 so that I could enroll them in public schools and what I got was the long length version.
Again, there are two you can get: the short version or the long version. If you get the short it takes about 2 hours the long version takes 1-3 days.
Do not feed people the BS that the long versions cannot be produced, because they can.
1962 documents are NOT destroyed. If they are sent to microfilm, I would imagine the information of what doctor deliverd you, what hospital you were born in, your date of birth, time of birth, city, state, etc..etc.. is still on there!

Ryan, you should not assume I am a right winger. Just because I do not agree with Obama and his shady politics does not mean I am a ” right winger”.
I began questioning his legitimacy because he is REFUSING to show the full length form (Yes, even Hawaii can produce this info if necessary), when he refused to release his pass port info and refused to release hi college transcripts.
Again, because one does not agree with Obama does not make them a right winger or a racist.
There are many who are Independents and Democrats who do not care for or believe in Obama!

“Fact: Texas and California, I know first hand, require a Certified Birth Certificate (long form)or a Certification of Report of Birth of a United States Citizen issued by the Department of State with raised seal as legal proof of citizenship….Short form is just that a quick link if you will of a long form, not good enough to get you a passport nor SS benefits nor other government benefits, gotta have a certified copy of your original to get a California drivers license.”
California does not offer a long or short form.
They offer an official copy or an informational copy.
“If you cannot obtain an authorized copy under California law(they are referring to who is qualified to request an official copy), you can obtain an informational copy. An informational copy contains the same information as an authorized copy, but will have a legend across the face with the statement “INFORMATIONAL, NOT A VALID DOCUMENT TO ESTABLISH IDENTITY.” Authorized and informational copies are both “certified copies.”
For a driver’s license, CA requires
Only the original or a certified copy of one of the following documents is acceptable:
* US Birth Certificate
So if one was from Hawaii and had their COLB issued by Hawaii, they could get a CA driver’s license.
The site even has each state’s record office numbers to assist one in ordering the paperwork.

“McCain had to go through and ENTIRE CONGRESSIONAL process to prove he was a natural born citizen even though he was born to TWO American Citizens while his Admiral Navy Father served in Panama Canal.”
What Congressional process?
There was a single question by Leahy to the Homeland Security chief then they passed a resolution.

“ryan c…DUH half the state of Texas and California are illegal, students,….However, if you want to WORK within a Governemnt facility..gotta have the docs to show legal status…If you want to show legal citizenship gotta have the legal docs”
And the short form issued by Texas is a legal document. The “informational” copy of one’s CA BC is not.
The claim one needs a long form BC for Little League is blown up by a quick visit to their official website.
The claim that one needs to long form for public school in TX is blown up by their own website.
All of which denies the fact that the COLB issued by Hawaii is acceptable to their government and is acceptable for passport use by the Feds.
Since Hawaii has only been issuing COLB since 2001, are you really saying that no Hawaiian has gotten a passport since then?

“Ryan, you should not assume I am a right winger. Just because I do not agree with Obama and his shady politics does not mean I am a ” right winger”.”
Talks like a duck, walks like a duck.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jul 29, 2009 2:45:07 PM==============================not that I owe you an explanation, but I am a registered Independent! I do not believe in big government, i do not care if gays get married and I think abortion should be legal up to 16 weeks. Late term abortion is cruel and abortion should not be used as a means of BIRTH CONTROL.
I also do not believe tax payers should foot the bill for abortion either-the person requesting an abortion should pay for this 100% unless a doctor orders it for health reasons-then isurance should cover it.
I do not believe illegal aliens should be allowed to stay in our country and milk the system they pay little into-but again, this is not a Republican issue as a good amount of Americans regardless of party affiliation feel the same way.
I think wars are awful, but also believe that they are unfortunatly necessary because most TERRORIST do not understand anything else-little talks over tea do NOT WORK!
I believe in helping those who cannot help themselves, but I do not believe we should be giving to those unwilling to help themselves when they can.
Welfare should be offered in all states and maxed out in 5 years total. Meaning, you can only recieve government assistance for a total of five years of your entire life.
Now, I am pretty sure that at least half of what I have said would make most die hard Republicans think I am a Democrat and the other half of what I said would make Democrats think I am a Republican.
The one thing I am die hard about: The Goverment already has too much control, they DO NOT NEED ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan C.: “So they are lying on their official websites?
Are you really claiming they would not accept a COLB from Hawaii when that is the only birth certificate document issued by Hawaii?”
No, I don’t think they are lying on their official website (although I don’t believe everything I read, either.) What I think, now that you finally bothered to ask, is that many agencies (Little League, Social Security, etc.) are run by people who don’t know the rules, people who are told by their supervisors what they can and can’t except and pass on that misinformation to you and I. I never once said Long Forms were the only thing accepted everywhere – I said in Nevada, my experience has been that they were the only form accepted. You put words into my mouth (or onto my post) that weren’t mine, they were yours so you could blast me as a right winger. Read the original post and you will see what I’m talking about.

“From what I have gathered, this all started with a videotaped eyewitness testimony by Obama’s African relatives that Obama, The President of the United States, was born at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa Kenya and mom immedately flew Junior home to the States and got him a Certificate of Live Birth?????”
ROFLMAO!
You can’t even quote the birth’s supposed evidence without hugely embellishing.
The audio recording (not video) cuts off after Obama’s grandmother is tricked into saying Obama was born in Kenya (note his father has the same name), the transcript of that recording has the same grandmother immediately after that statement stating repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii.
The audio recording says nothing about Obama’s mom flying back to Hawaii to get a COLB.
But I know where you are going with this because I am obviously familiar with many of the birth lies.
The law birthers cite as making the registration of a birth taking place elsewhere and for one to get a COLB (which would state where they were born and it would not be Hawaii) was not even enacted until 1982.

Sorry Ryan C..Upon request, Hawaii will issue a Certified Copy of your original Birth Certificate via scanned image of original before destroyed in later part of 1990′s…
This is not going away, no matter how much the Obama administration jokes or makes fun of people, birthers I guess…I was not even remotely interested in this until Army Maj. Cook got himself a lawyer refused his deployment orders to Afghanistan based upon Obama’s legitiment status as President…His deployment orders were rescinded without explanation…Now I am from a military family proud and true, but when I read that knowing that the military just does not rescind deployment orders during war time…will…I WANT THIS TO GO AWAY IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY..SATISFY THOSE RIGHT WING WEIRDOS AND PRODUCE YOUR CBC…AND LET’S GET ON WITH BUILDING THIS COUNTRY……

Football is coming up and fall softball. Called both organizations and claimed I was enrolling both kids for the first time.
Ready……wait for it…………….
Both stated I had to HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE for the kids and proof of where I live because they only allow kids in certain zip codes to play in their leagues.
WOW…….Ryan, guess your accusation of me lying is….WRONG!!!!!

Again Ryan from “What I gathered.” I don’t know…I really don’t know what the true facts are, but I do know that this could be put to rest with just a call to the Hawaii State Dept of Health with a request for release of a CBC to someone in the Government who will then verify it to the American public…He Won’t…Curious indeed…

“Your HAVE TO HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE for your child, shot records must be up to date, electric/water/gas bill proving YOU live in the zoned area and a vaild id proving you are who you say you are.”
So the person you spoke with echoed the website which makes no distinction between long or short form BC. Posted by: Ryan C | Jul 29, 2009 3:27:36 PM===========================She echoed the website huh? She did not say I could bring in the hospital copy of the birth certificate, she did not say I could use a passport, she did not say I could use a church christianing certificate, she did not say I could use military ID. She said I HAD TO bring in her birth certificate.
So no, she did not echo the website you were citing.

OK Kim “I also do not believe tax payers should foot the bill for abortion either-the person requesting an abortion should pay for this 100% unless a doctor orders it for health reasons-then isurance should cover it.”
Who is more than likely gonna support the kid for the rest of its life in some form? You my friend the taxpayer. Congrats.Posted by: jenny | Jul 29, 2009 3:32:30 PM========================= Jenny, that is not a vaild argumen. You cannot tell me I should pay for someones abortion because I might have to pay out in welfare.
You cannot say for an exact certainty that all abortions if not provided will end in a welfare state. If you can prove this, I want to be your new best friend MS See into the Future with your bad self!
Abortions are elective, for the most part, and should be paid for by the person wishing to have the abortion-period!

“Ryan C If what you state is the truth and not opinion or rumor placed out there by some left-wing weirdos( goes both ways), I would agree”
He prob won’t go to the stockade.
I would say its far likely he just gets pushed out of the reserves in a forced retirement.
Apparently he got his security clearance yanked and that caused him to lose his defense contractor job.

Gibbs: “If I had some DNA it wouldn’t assuage those who don’t believe he was born here”
Right . . . because DNA doesn’t tell anyone anything about where someone was born. Good one, Gibbs. You really showed those wacky conservatives.
“Why does it keep coming up?”
If Obama really wanted to put this to rest, he would remove the primary argument of his critics and just order the release of the long-form birth certificate. You know, the one that lists the hospital he was born in and the doctor that delivered him. The one Hawaiian officials continue to claim exists and could be released if Obama simply requested it.
Obama hypocritically enables this conspiracy by withholding his original, long-form birth certificate. Maybe that’s the point — keep the conspiracy alive and stir the conspiratorial pot whenever Obama would like a distraction from his other failures (failing economy and stimulus, failing health care reform, his and Biden’s continuous gaffes, etc.). Not only that, then they can attempt to portray conservatives as wacky conspiracy theorist when all they want is what’s afforded to them in the constitution — proof their President is a US citizen. At the end of the day, Obama’s long-form birth certificate is worth more to him sealed away than available for all to see.

Sorry that would not stop these lunatic right wingers.
He posted a copy of his COLB which is the only thing Hawaii has issued since 2001, birthers called it a fake.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jul 29, 2009 4:45:02 PM===============================
Ryan, again, it will not stop the people who are conspiracy theorist or who are he$$ bent on believing Obama is illegitimate.
But it will put the issue to rest for the VAST MAJORITY of people who question a person that is refusing to produce and is doing everything he can to keep from producing a long form copy of his birth certificate, his pass port information and his college transcripts.
All he has to do is show them and be done with it, but by refusing to show ANY of the information, he is leaving nothing but room for speculation and accusations.
In principle it is like the Gates issue and the refusal to show proper id. After the third request to show his ID, he gave them his Harvard ID. Cambridge Police had to call in Harvard PD to validate the Harvard ID. Gates ended up showing his drivers license.
My point: just show the information and be done with it. You will still have some who will question whether or not the info is legit, but for the most part the issue will be dead.
I draw my skeptism not because I am a “birther” or a “right wingnut”, but rather because of his down right refusal and at any cost of showing the documents in question.

Thia whole birth certificate thing is such a stupid non-issue. Give it up folks. I am one of Obama’s biggest critics as Ryan, Danita, and jhw539 can tell you, but this is just plain stupid. His mom was born in Kansas and was a U.S. citizen, so even if he was born in Kenya or somewhere else, I think there would be a good argument that he was still deserving of U.S. citizenship at birth. Either way, all evidence says he was born in Honolulu, there are two newspaper announcements regarding his birth which would be awfully hard to explain away.

For Jenny as I did not see your post to the legal question earlier:
“Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child”
Key words are One Us Citizen and One Alien Parent in “wedlock”.
“For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child”
If Obama was born in Kenya (I am playing devils advocate here), Obama’s father and mother were NOT married, Obama’s father was NOT an American Citizen and Obama’s mother did NOT give birth to Obama when she was at least 19 years of age or older.
Therefore LEGALLY he can NOT be a natural born citizen IF he was born in Kenya.

To Ryan and others who are “rolling on the floor” in laughter, the problem with the evidence that has been put forth so far as proof of Obama’s mysterious birth certificate is that (1) the ORIGINAL typed, signed, stamped birth certificate, the piece of paper that was allegedly created a few days after Obama’s birth, has not been disclosed; (2) the few people who are saying they have seen the original certificate are people with a big conflict of interest problem, thus many do not trust them as witnesses. In case you don’t know, the pictures of birth certificates that Gibbs and others point to as “being on the internet” are printouts of records stored in a computer. They are transcriptions of some alphanumeric data plunked down on a form that was designed long after Obama’s birth. They are not images… they are not photocopies… of the original. All of this “evidence” referred to mockingly by Gibbs and others is obfuscation. In the Obama administration when you don’t have good answers you mock, you demean, you demonize and dissemble and then leave it to the sycophants to continue the charade. Welcome to the world of Obama. Isn’t it strange that no one will come forward with the original document to put an end to all the speculation? Isn’t it strange that this has been festering for at least a year?

“That’s what all the anti-birthers say — it won’t stop the conspiracies.”
He released his COLB and birthers called it a fake.
Fact Check reviews it. Politifact reviews it.
Birthers claim they are partisan.
The head of the Dept of Health states they have his BC and he is a natural born citizen.
Birther ignore it.
” Like I said, not releasing the long-form is what primarily keeps this conspiracy alive.”
No what keeps this alive is the unhinged nature of people who hate Obama so much that they are willing to accept any scenario painting him in a negative light.
Now I will agree that there will be hardcore crazies regardless but to say releasing the long form will end this is not likely based on past experience.

Yep, Ryan, all those truth seekers are racists.

“By Obama REFUSING to show any of the information and instead doing everything in his power to KEEP IN UNDER WRAPS, he is doing nothing more than continuing the sagga of “Is he or Isn’t He a Natural Born Citizen”.”
Obama posted his COLB.
Are you now denying he did that?
By the way I love how the birthers are now blaming Obama for the conspiracy they keep alive.

I have a question. How many hardcore “birthers” are there? Next Question. How many hardcore “truthers” are there? The insanely large number of fools who think there is a 9/11 conspiracy far outweighs the fools who are making an issue of the COLB. Most conservatives are like myself, reasonable and not prone to hysterics or conspiracy theories. I don’t think the same can be said about liberals.

Out of curiosity, how many of you voted for him and are disappointed and will not do so again or know how many others who are regretting their vote? Let’s get to this guys agenda and put that in front of others. This distraction is helping push this horrible health care bill through and Emanual WANTS ALL OF YOU FOCUSED ON THIS INSTEAD OF THAT!!!

“Ryan…..everyone keeps saying they have seen the longform birth certificate and he is a natural born citizen.”
I’ve seen his COLB not his long form. Thought Hawaiian officials have repeatedly stated they have viewed his BC and that the COLB he posted is valid.
Based on that he is a natural born citizen because he was a citizen at birth.
“Is Obama COB is legitimate? That is a good question.”
Why is it a good question?
Do you you not believe the Dept of Health, Fact Check, or Poltiifact?
Do you instead believe Ron Poalrik anonymous freeper with made up credentials?
“He is doing everything in his power to hide all other documents, why?”
Let’s see privacy laws protect virtually everything he is supposedly going out of his way to hide.
So why do people accuse him of sealing his records?

To ALL the LEFTIES, it’s NOT always about race! Only you w/ MASSIVE guilt issues would think that. My closest friend is black and one of the biggest Obama supporters and sees this is NOT a race issue. Was it a race issue when all the Lefties said Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks? Get over it already. Go volunteer yourselves as a doormat and be done w/ it!

Ryan C: “He released his COLB and birthers called it a fake.”
Wrong. I’m in favor of seeing Obama’s long-form birth certificate, yet I accept the COLB as real.

“The fact that Hawaii went electronic in 2001 is irrelevant, Ryan. Hawaiian officials have already confirmed they would release his original, long-form birth certificate, if Obama requested it.”
Provide a quote for that because Hawaiian officials have said otherwise.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.
And, it’s only available in electronic form.
Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.
“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.
Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.
“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.
Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”
“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.
Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”
She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”

Ryan C: “And yes I believe the motive behind the birthers has more to do with Obama’s skin color than his paperwork.”
If there’s one constant that I’ve observed here, it’s that Ryan C finds race to be a motive in anyone that would disagree with him or his beloved Obama. It’s kind of like the little boy that cried wolf . . .

“If there’s one constant that I’ve observed here, it’s that Ryan C finds race to be a motive in anyone that would disagree with him or his beloved Obama. It’s kind of like the little boy that cried wolf .”
If there’s one constant to the birther drum beat its “Obama is not one of us”.
That’s the heart of racism.

Ryan C: “If there’s one constant to the birther drum beat its “Obama is not one of us”.
That’s the heart of racism.”
The heart of the so-called “birther” movement is the release of Obama’s original, long-form birth certificate. Evidence of eligibility for President of the United States isn’t racist, it’s a piece of paper. Again, you’ve lost your credibility to judge racism long ago.

Anonymous: “Wrong. I’m in favor of seeing Obama’s long-form birth certificate, yet I accept the COLB as real.”
Ryan C: “I am curious as to why?”
Now that questions have been raised, why not? He’s President of the United States. Citizens have every right to satisfy whatever curiosities or insecurities they may have regarding the eligibility of any President.

Gotta ask ryan c just who pays your salary to sit nearly 12 hours out of the day to defend Obama…curious..btw…cert. of live birth and a dime will get you a cup of coffee…not good for any government benefit programs such as passports, driver’s license, soc sec benefits, etc… but keep those denials coming pays the rent right…

JV: “Anonymous, stop the copy and paste tactics from your favorite Daddy Limbaugh website and go back to your finger painting.”
All of my comments are 100% original. Search for yourself. That you thought I would plagiarize others to express my opinion here speaks more to your standards than mine.

both my parents are US citizens and both were born in joisey. but they were over in italy visiting relatives (my grandparents etc) for a few years when i popped out.
under current law i would be an american regardless, but in 1961 (same as BHO) i was considered an italian national and had to be “naturalized” at age 16!
i do not advertize this fact. i’m a yank, my parents are yanks, we are all “from” jersey, more or less. it almost feels like a technicality to me that i lost my birthright while my mother’s womb was over scoping the vineyards of palermo.
my passport even has “Birthplace: Trenton” on it, due to the sloppiness of record-keeping in those days.
so while i suspect barry-boy WAS born in honolulu, the idea that he WASN’T is not so preposterous as some would have u believe. it is exactly my case!

I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii but is it moot “…children of citizens (NB: plural, i.e. two parents) of the United States…shall be considered as natural born citizens of the United States; Provided That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident in the United States…” (FIRST CONGRESS Sess. II Ch.4 1790, Approved March 26, 1790, pp. 103-104. Document margin note: “Their children residing here, deemed citizens.” Document margin note: “Also, children of citizens born beyond sea, & c. Exceptions.”) See Attachment B.

We had 8 years of a pompous arrogant frat boy and now someone else is in office and it upsets the Hell out of you.
Who’s the “Decider” now?
He’s the President… get over yourselves.

If obama would have just produced the birth certificate from the beginning none of this would have happened. He fans the flames of division. He has no personal history, no relatives, he was educated outside the US during childhood, he has relatives all over the world and has illegal alien relatives. The whole thing makes one wonder if the guy is really an American Then you have him running all over the world talking like a foreigner blaming the USA for everything. Never once giving us credit for letting his dad come here and get educated and then go off and hate the country.

If you guys held it in your hands you would say it was a fake. You are into this because you want to have that out there flapping and making some folks afraid that he really isn’t an American. I think I would have liked this type of thing to have come up on Bush JR. I would have riden it right into the ground. All I had was his lack of smarts and no proof he ever really did go to University or get out of the guard with honor. I really do get why this keeps going on I wish so much I had had it to use against Bush.

“If he would just show us the proof.”
“I did.”
“But if he would just show us the documentation.”
“I posted it online.”
“But if he would just get an ‘official’ statement.”
“I did.”
“But if he would just have in impartial judge…”
NOTHING… I mean NOTHING will convince those who simply WANT to disbelieve. Perhaps the silver lining here is that having this fantasy to defend is sapping energy from the Morris-Gish-DeYoung-Vardiman-Austin young-Earth creationist camp – and even the anti-Global-Warming camp: there seems to be a sort of limit on just how many things people can willfully disbelieve all at once!

“Gibbs has once again shown his stupidity with his DNA remark. He could have all the DNA in the world but it would have nothing to do with where Obama was born”
Gibbs’ quip had to do with the certainty of DNA in “solving” cases.
Of course birthers being the geniuses they are take him literally.

“ryan c…Supreme Court decision of the Wong Kim case, where it states that the CLB meets all requirements of Federal…….Would that be the requirements in 1898 or present day???? LOL”
Here’s your hero Parallex.
From those noted liberals at Stars & Stripes
“Army Maj. Stefan Cook sought out a notorious lawyer in February, formally volunteered for an Afghan deployment in May and was granted orders to deploy in June.
But the Army reservist’s intention appeared not so much to fight for America as to fight against President Barack Obama, in furtherance of a bizarre conspiracy theory.”
Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, a spokeswoman for SOCCENT, said the Army couldn’t let Cook’s critical engineer billet be hijacked by further legal wrangling. Cook was scheduled to deploy on July 15, and his position cannot sit empty.
The officer Cook was supposed to replace “is going to have to remain in Afghanistan a while longer,” Silkman said, noting the Army is seeking a replacement. “No one has been identified yet, but it is a priority fill, so we’re working on it and expect to fill it soon. Engineers are in high demand.””

I think the vault copy lis ts a different
father – or no “father Unknown” ! Question of Whose his Daddy!! Then everyone will know “Dreams of My Father
was a fictional work. Thats why he is
spending 1 million to keep it under wraps!

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, Obama isn’t even Naturalized as far as I can tell. I would guess he is still an illegal alien waiting to get his new Communist Government Health Care while they spread the wealth around. Good try, I know you guys are running out of comebacks. Must be tough to get judged on how well you defend this man when the truth is gaining popularity so quickly. Hang in there, you can always come over to the ‘right” side.

“Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, Obama isn’t even Naturalized as far as I can tell”
You are very correct that he is not naturalized.
He is a natural born citizen by virtue of his birth in Hawaii.

“Ummmm sounds like lazy way of saying I really don’t know how to respond to a point well made;”
What well made point?
Are you claiming the the spokesperson was citing the Wong Kim case as validation of the COLB?
“insofar as, how does one use an 1898 decision on Federal requirements for proof of birth for legal documentation too defend today’s Federal standards and hide the fact that the Supreme Court decision they are citing is based upon an 1898 decision…naughty naughty.”
Huh?
Again are you claiming that the spokesperson from the Dept of Health is citing Wong Kim?

Now Obama’s own Myspace page says he is 52 years of age. That would mean he was born in 1957, not 1961 as the fake Factcheck COLB says.
The questions won’t go away until obama releases his hidden records. All he has to do is make the following official public statement,
“I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file.”
That’s it. Issue over. But he won’t because he’s a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What and why is he hiding?
And maybe more disturbing is why don’t BHO’s supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there’s a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States? The answer is that Obama’s very own supporters also know he’s a fraud!
OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US YOUR LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND OTHER RECORDS!!!!!

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