Roundtable: Palin’s Bombshell
What’s going on with Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin?
It was all the talk this morning on our Roundtable where I was joined today by George Will, Cynthia Tucker, Matt Dowd, Todd Purdum and Tony Blankley.
Purdum, the author of a widely circulated Vanity Fair article about Palin this week, reported Palin was deeply unhappy running the government in Alaska. A window perhaps into why she announced she was stepping down this week and wouldn’t run in 2010.
Blankley of the Washington Times’ and former Bush-Cheney strategist Matt Dowd argued Palin has a keen political “intuitive” sense.
But what’s in her future? Her latest Facebook entry suggests she’s looking for a larger national role. Is a 2012 presidential bid on the horizon?
Watch the debate:
What do you think?
–George Stephanopoulos
Email
Rick Santorum Sweeps 3 States
Pentagon to Open Additional Jobs to Women
No doubt God told personally told Palin that she should quit as Governor if she is to be the world’s saviour.
Posted by: John Pete | July 5, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Who cares what Sarah Palin does? And why after the public has already moved on to things that have actual relevance to their daily existence, does the media insist on minute to minute coverage of stuff like this?
Posted by: jan | July 5, 2009, 10:33 am 10:33 am
If Limbaugh is “talent on loan from god”. Where does Sara Palin fit into all this? I thought according to the GOP there already is a messiah and that is President Obama.
Posted by: Proud_Dem | July 5, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am
The woman is dumb as a post. Get over her.
Posted by: becks | July 5, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Because Sarah Palin will be the person that will lead us out of socialism!!!!!!
Posted by: 1bad427LS1 | July 5, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
She has plans far outside any box that the elite leftists OR the Republicans in Name Only are trying to put her in. I’ll wait for her to announce and then support her 100%
Posted by: Susan | July 5, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
If she’s so dumb, they why are all the Dems obsessing over her?!
Posted by: Michael | July 5, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Why is quitting her post as Governor mid term seen as a good thing and a harbinger of future leadership opportunities? If she is “unhappy” governing Alaska how could she handle an ENTIRE COUNTRY? Sarah Palins penchant for playing victim is also a red flag. Sarah Palin will never be able to effectively galvanize and lead anyone until she stops whining and blaming others for her reality.
Posted by: Jessie | July 5, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
She had her Obama moment at the Republican convention and it scares the HELL out of the Dems.
Posted by: Clay freeman | July 5, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am
She has almost a million dollars in legal bill to defend ethics charges from being gov. for less than 3 years, sounds like a perfect GOP presidential candidate. Palin/Stevens 2012
Posted by: richard | July 5, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am
We should really just move on. She clearly has chosen to do the same. Catch her next season on “I’m a Celebrity. Get Me Out of Here.”
Posted by: Jesse juarez | July 5, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Palin is the Chance the Gardener of the GOP. No one could make sense of her ramblings for a reason. Move along…
Posted by: Nancy | July 5, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am
She has plans far outside any box that the elite leftists OR the Republicans in Name Only are trying to put her in. I’ll wait for her to announce and then support her 100% Susan……………………………… Sorry susan, she’s
so far out of the box that she needs a roadmap to find her way around. BTW, I’m against her 100%, gee, sounds like she’s cancelled out, exactly where she belongs
Posted by: spacerook1 | July 5, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am
If she was supposedly the saviour for the GOP during the election cycle why did they get kicked to the curb?
Posted by: Proud_Dem | July 5, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Michael, I just did not mean her I meant the whole GOP. She did nothing for the the other side. Except for them to become the party of no.
Posted by: Proud_Dem | July 5, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am
I guess I still don’t understand why the Dems are so obsessing with her. By the way, isn’t Mayor Berry a Dem?
Posted by: Michael | July 5, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Proud Dem: Seems to me the Reps have been the party of no ever since Speaker Newt’s Contract on America, when they pretended to be for term limits, then voted it down.
Posted by: Michael | July 5, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Karl Rove who successfully guided President Bush to the White House twice, was remarkably cold on Sarah Palin’s decision to resign as governor of Alaska during an appearance on Fox News Sunday.
The former Bush strategist and current Republican commentator argued that it was “not clear” what Palin’s strategy was in resigning just two-and-a-half years into office, adding that the move was risky, left her vulnerable to her critics, and would damage her chances of becoming president.
“I think it hurts,” Rove told host Chris Wallace. “When you’re a sitting governor, you have the tactical advantage if you’re thinking about running for president of turning down a lot of things with an excuse that people will accept. ‘I’ve got a job to do as governor.’ She’s now removed that.
Posted by: Omaar | July 5, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am
I think Sarah Palin wants to fight for the Senate sat from Alaska
Posted by: just a mom | July 5, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Rich Killion, Adviser to Gov. Mitt Romney,
“How can Palin convince a General Election Audience How Quitting on her Constituents is a Good Thing”
Posted by Read It For Yourselves at
Rich Killion: Palin Cannot Convince People that Quitting is a Good Thing
John Weaver:McCain’s Fmr.Adviser..
Palin has ‘No Real Accomplishments as Governor’
John Weaver,a former Senior Strategist for McCain’s Presidential Bids.
“Policy is Politics and Palin Has No Real Accomplishments as Governor”
Posted by: Omaar | July 5, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am
“Blankley of the Washington Times’ and former Bush-Cheney strategist Matt Dowd argued Palin has a keen political “intuitive” sense.”
where.. when? She’s been a dismal failure and an embarressment to a great state which she has now shafted twice by going back on her commitments to that state.
Her only following is a tiny handful of extremests.. and I think, the media.
Posted by: Cleo | July 5, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
I think she saw herself spinning her wheels against absurd ethics attacks and knew there was an onslaught that would not stop no matter how ludicrous the claims were. It is better for her state and free’s her up to get her message across.
Posted by: veronica | July 5, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
she’s stupid and anyone who would vote for her or support her is just as stupid! all you had to do is watch all her interviews and figure this out yourself!
Posted by: Palinisanidot | July 5, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Alaskan Jr. Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski on Palin’s [Resignation]..
“I am Deeply Disappointed that the Governor [Palin] has decided to Abandon the State and Her Constituents Before Her Term has Concluded,”
——————-
Note: Sen.Murkowski has a Much HIGHER Favorable RATING in the state of Alaska than Sarah Palin..FACT
Lisa Murkowski would Demolish Palin in a Senatorial Election. Abandoning her Governorship in 2 1/2 Years Kills her Chances in Alaska Period.
Murkowski has Much More National & International Experience than Sarah Palin, who has Absolutely [NONE]
Lisa Murkowski is an Educated Attorney and law Background.
Palin took 6 Yrs Hopping from College to College, only to Garner a Degree in [Journalism]
Governors have only State Side Experience
Posted by: Omaar | July 5, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Palin will always be a lightening rod for BOTH sides. Yes Barry was a dem Michael. Way to miss the point. Palin is NOT a leader she is a quitter and a whiner. There is really no room for playing the “victim” card in politics ESPECIALLY for a woman. Clinton took heat for using it and now so too Sarah. If Ms Palin was unhappy leading Alaska…so unhappy she felt she had to leave her post mid tern that is NOT keen intuitive sense, that is someone who cannot handle to task. If she cannot handle leading alaska then how could she POSSIBLY handle leading America. If she has been treated unfairly by the media or been unduly attacked in terms of frivolous ethics complaints who on earth would think that THAT would dissipate in a higher office. It will only increase. I hate the cliche about heat and kitchens but it surely fits here. Palin is riding on the fumes of McCains insanity for choosing such a DUBIOUSLY unqualified running mate. She seems to be addicted to the attention and courts it all costs. The bottom line here is that Sarah Palin was NOT qualified to be vice president nor will she be qualified to become president. She may have “star power” but she has yet to exhibit any actual LEADERSHIP power.
Posted by: Jeanette | July 5, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Cleo, What would that message be? Maybe quitting when the going gets tough is always a good thing. Come you can come up with something better than that.
Posted by: Proud_Dem | July 5, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Sarah Palin who epitomizes the GOP, seems to be even more inarticulate and delusional than ever. I am eternally grateful that sufficient numbers of Americans had enough sense of self survival to vote for President Obama and literally save our great country from the economic, social, and moral disaster Palin and her elk (sic) would have brought upon us.
Posted by: Tensai | July 5, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Wow, really amusing to watch a bunch of DC insiders discussing Ms. Palin. They dismiss her as a light weight, but they are obviously so energized by her. They don’t realize there is an enormous mass of people in this country just waiting for a leader. It’s certain that none of the current leaders of the Republicans are going to suffice. If she can tap into the energy of this mass, there will be a tidal change in the nation. Anybody remember 1994? The press did not predict that either. Maybe that’s what scares them…
Posted by: Terry | July 5, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am
so much for freedom of speech!
Posted by: Tensai | July 5, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Sarah Palin’s higher calling: MONEY!!!
Posted by: Michelle | July 5, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am
It is very scary that Palin can take up so much attention. It is scary that they can mention her as a president.John Mcain really did our country a diservce by bringing her in to national attention and the people who would actually vote for her. There really is something wrong with our process ,this is how George W Bush was elected. Is this the end of days?
Posted by: exwber | July 5, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
I think the truth to why Sarah Palin resigned as Gov of Alaska, which is what I heard from the beginning, was simply because she realized that all the frivolous noise the left was making about her, was a distraction from her job. The left and MSM weren’t going to let that up any time soon, so instead of spending her time as Gov, addressing the daily onslaught of babble spewed at her, and a ton of money in defense of the idiotic diatribe being assailed at her, she bit the bullet and did the better thing for her state and resigned.
I’m sure there may be some that will find the need to come up with all kinds of speculation why this isn’t so, but save yourselves some time and bring some facts with you, rather than the half baked assumptions I’m seeing on the threads.
Posted by: Baddawg00 | July 5, 2009, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Palin ,Micheal Jackson? Now i know why Carl Rove thinks americans are dumb. My God the man is a genius he got GW Bush elected for two terms. Our political process is broken ,Our news services right and left are broken. The politicians suck but what about the people who elect them
Posted by: exwber | July 5, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
George Will, you missed a good opportunity to admonish the morbid media and crazy comedians who have made ripping Sarah Palin to shreds into a national sport. She holds no national office yet holds the media’s attention like children gripping their favorite toys. Why? Because she is plain spoken and connects with the common people. She articulates what they are thinking. You, on the other hand, have obviously gone over to the dark side – the nabobs of negatism, the loony left.
Posted by: Don Koza | July 5, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
The criticisms launched by Cynthia Tucker against Palin humorously return upon her own head. We heard the “lock-step” reference to Hitler as she used the word repetitively in her cadence.
“Petty, vindictive, not making sense adequately sums up Cynthia Tucker. The “Head Mistress, Holier-Than-Thou, look with arched eye-brow and jutting lower jaw defines her attitude and insecurities while she attempts to under-cut a real person, Palin, who does not play by the politicians game card.
The fact that she made the same decision many of us had to make, to give up a career to raise our children is being ignored by the perfectionists and elitists, who are disconnected with society. Which is,in fact the result of their own failure to connect deeply with family – who were not available for them.
The “Vanity” Fair guy’s fiction inspired writing was laughable. His sour-grapes attitude is obvious as well as his contempt for those of us who do not reside in the high-gloss world of expensive magazines geared to the wealthy.
We are ready for a new grass roots campaign and it will not involve the political machine, and the media creators. It is going to blow the minds of all the “think tanks” who have it all thought out.
Posted by: DCHope | July 5, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
GREAT SEEING TONY BLANKLEY JOIN THE TEAM …
Posted by: lorraine | July 5, 2009, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
The perfect GOP ticket: The Carribou Barby and Argentinian Casanova–Palin/Sanford in 2012!
Posted by: peter | July 5, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Can someone tell me why all these comments against Palin stepping down as Gov. of Alaska? Liberal media should be jumping for joy. I had to listen to wonderful Tucker, who I was thrilled left Atlanta Journal,be an expert on Palin and yet she has no family or husband of her own to realize this was for Sarah’s family. Palin will outdo Tucker anyday on the being tops on tough meter.
Posted by: Dusty | July 5, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Re: Becks post…..
Lead us out of Socialism?? She can’t even finish her job as govenor….no thanks!
At this point, why not socialism? Look where Capitolism got us!
Posted by: webrider | July 5, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
The irony is that those who bemoan the worshipping of Obama can’t stop for a second and realize they too are worshipping a false prophet in Palin.
Posted by: 1percenter | July 5, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
All I can say is, with Palin out of her personal kingdom, now I can go visit the beautiful state of Alaska without thinking of her! Hurray!
Posted by: Giselle | July 5, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
First, in my humble opinion, there were only two positive comments made by the panel this morning concerning Palin:
Tucker: “quite frankly, women take a lot of that (criticism).” My comment? On the political stage, in the workplace, in the home, in relationships, etc., etc., etc. Yes!
Blankley: Palin is “intuitive…gut sense to talk to American people…doing something right those of us in Washington don’t see.” My comment? You betcha’!
Secondly, there were the negative, reason-why-women-have-not-broken-the-glass-ceiling, comments:
Purdum: “If there is anything that is predictable about her, it’s unpredictability…mental disorder…narcissistic…takes everything personally” — My comment? A male, macho analogy if I ever heard one!!
Dowd: “lack of discipline and focus..discount her ability to advance” her political cause. My comment? Reagan, in his run for the presidency, appeared not to have discipline and focus as evidenced in his first debate, and most political commentators “discounted” him. But he did get elected and in most circles is considered one of the great orators and effective presidents our generation has seen in years.
G. Will: “No!” in answer to Stephanopoulos’ question if Palin stood a chance for a “plausible comeback?” My comment? See above concerning Reagan.
A word to all political commentators: GET YOU HEAD OUT OF THE WASHINGTON DC SAND!!
Posted by: Judy | July 5, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
I am really surprised that Sarah is stepping down, I have my own ideas as to why, and for the media it is a “cool frenzy”. What is this political machine we have, lack of understanding, unacceptable moves unless it has been approved by the “party”, I love her and wish her the best. I think that Obama is out of control, or rather in reality has no control and is being pulled in too many directions and has lost his way.
Posted by: Laura Miller | July 5, 2009, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
This is a governor of a state with a small population and easy economics (high natural resources)– and she is finding the work too difficult to live up to her elected committment — and this is supposed to suggest it is time that she step UP? Her statement was incoherent. Surely, there is a another shoe waiting to drop.
Posted by: Mike | July 5, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
This reminds me of a neighborhood football game, when the kid with the football decides if he can’t win, he will take his football and go home.
Being Governor isn’t “fun” anymore so she’s gonna quit and go home.
fine. Cya at the PTA, maybe the big leagues just aren’t for you Sarah.
Posted by: Sandra | July 5, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
This is a CLASSIC CASE of TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN…palin just got an advance for a book deal of $7 Million, early this week (google it, you’ll find it), and then later that same week, she resigns…she can’t take the criticisms and personal attacks any longer, so she’s doing what probably 90% of us would do if we won the lottery…we’d quit our jobs, and go on a looong vacation called retirement. I’ve never agreed with any of her points-of-view, I don’t like, once again, how she’s hiding the truth behind her facade of chivalry, but I do understand her wish for peace, in passing her 15 minutes of fame on to the next contestant, and taking full benefit from her lottery winnings. Congratulations, Sarah…
Posted by: airborne paratrooper | July 5, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
No one is obsessing over Palin, except the GOP. Palin is totally out of her league. She has too much drama in her personal life and needs to be at home to fix it as well as care for her family.
The majority only sees the superficial (It could not be intelligence, since she is lacking).
Posted by: Jo Alexander | July 5, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Palin was unhappy governing AK because it was, like, actually, WORK. And, she had to face her critics.
Now, she can flit around like the celebrity she is, making millions for giving goofy speeches she doesn’t have to prepare for, in front of crowds that only adore her. She can make millions hogging her own TV show where it’s all about her and no one gives her a hard time.
Posted by: teddy | July 5, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
RE: The Roundtable Discussion
Why is the lady from the Atlanta Journal Constitution allowed to read from a teleprompter? It’s obvious.
Are Blankley, Will et al also reading. If they are it’s not as obvious.
Posted by: Danes Gold | July 5, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
oh how ironic – Palin is going to become one of the reviled community organizers.
come on republicans – we know you are capable of better than this? don’t you see that someone who insults voters that are moderate or college educated or professional women are just turned off by her?
Posted by: citizenvoter | July 5, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Palin stirs hatred in people – something that catches on with the far right – so she has her followers. My guess is Alaska is no longer doing all that great as a state and she didn’t want to be sattled with a failed administration – she got out before the going got tough. Does this woman really have a college degree??
Posted by: Sharon | July 5, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
She has plans far outside any box that the elite leftists OR the Republicans in Name Only are trying to put her in. I’ll wait for her to announce and then support her 100%
==========================================
And that is really sad about this country…I heard folks say that about GWB too. Palin has shown who she really is: a political neophyte, a diva, and someone who cannot hanlde the job she was hired to do when things get tough…My advice is to never support any politician 100%…They will only disappoint…If Palin has not disappointed you as a Republican then your eyes are closed and there is simply no hope for your party..
Posted by: indy_voter | July 5, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Maybe now the wolves are safe from Sarah shooting from her helicopter! Alaska is a great state that doesn’t need any more of Sarah’s environmental destruction. Her policies encourage profits for industry at the expense of the environment.
Will the new governor be welcoming the Separatist Party as Sarah did? The party that her husband belongs to?
What a patriotic American, to encourage leaving the USA that she claims to love!
So glad that the Republican leaders are on to her and don’t support her! One point I support the Republicans on fully!
Posted by: oneofme | July 5, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Omaar: I agree with almost everything you’ve said. One thing, though: when did exhibiting “any LEADERSHIP power” become a prerequisite for becoming president? The lack of it didn’t keep George W. Bush from being elected. Sadly, as an electorate, we Americans continue to prove we are far more influenced by and attracted to STARS than we are to LEADERS.
Posted by: CentralOregonian | July 5, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
My apologies: my previous comment was in response to Jeanette, not Omaar.
Posted by: CentralOregonian | July 5, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
To all the people complaining on here that the media pays too much attention to Palin…well get this…they only write stories they know will be read and clicked on. They can tell who’s reading what by how many clicks each story receives. So if you want to stop hearing about Palin, then stop reading their stories about her. It’s that easy!
Posted by: john | July 5, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
interesting how any comments regarding a positive side toward Palin don’t get posted on ABC. very interesting.
Posted by: john | July 5, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
First term Gov. Palin is Bailin’ and former Gov. Mitt Romney just bought a house in Nevada. Looks like the Senatour de Republican 2010 may be more treacherous than the Tour de France 2009.
Posted by: Julia | July 5, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Does anyone think maybe she resigned due to threats to her family? Does anyone think maybe she resigned due to a health issue? Does anyone think maybe she resigned because she’s fed up with the GOP. She has really been attacked unjustly. Who would want to continue having blatant false accusations and pseudo corrupt lawsuits coming from the corrup dems daily? The cost to her personally is over half a million; to her well-being immeasurable. It may not be a smart move for her political future, but I’m of the opinion politics are not what she’s aspiring to at this point in time.
Posted by: readmylips | July 5, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I am a great grandmother that`s been around for awhile.I am a Sarah Palin fan.She stands for what our great country was founded on.I feel Hillary is the one that should be in the white house.Ladies we should stick together.
Posted by: sharon | July 5, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Some people don’t do things just because they are “unhappy”, Jeanette.
Don’t be simplistic.
I’d personally like her to be able to counter-sue some of the 15 bozo’s that have brought these failed ethics charges against her.
I would also like to see her dump the republican party and help start a much needed third party…of CONSERVATIVES…but I dream.
Posted by: FRED | July 5, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
For those of you who think Palin has made a fatal error, just remember that we (not me personally) as a nation re-elected Bush for a *2nd* term. With an electorate so ignorant, Palin will have a shot.
Posted by: Sj | July 5, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
I really don’t understand the appeal of this woman as a candidate for anything at all. It’s not a republican/democrat thing with me, as I vote for both parties. I think she’s an embarrassment in almost every way, even worse than Bush was, and that was pretty bad.
Posted by: fido | July 5, 2009, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Sorry for the delay. Had to go to the hospital for a relative who had a stroke this morning.
I’m afraid you missed my point, which was that people are spending an inordinate amount of time obsessing about how awful Palin is. You just spent more than a dozen lines in your last post doing so, and one person (see above) was even moved to sign her post as Palinisanidiot.
If Palin has star power it’s because these people have to spend so much time condemning her seven months after the election. Is she that much of a threat? Give it a break!
Posted by: Michael | July 5, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Palin should scare every thinking person. If she ever were to succeed in national political office, we would be in serious trouble. Palin’s speech was incoherent and vacuous – like she is. It is disturbing that Americans – left or right wing – vacuous platitudes from their leaders. I will never understand how anyone like Palin could have been elected to anything, anywhere.
Posted by: MollyW | July 5, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
I meant “It is disturbing that Americans – left or right wing – accept vacuous platitudes from their leaders.”
Posted by: MollyW | July 5, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
I’m an admitted political junkie and blog reader. And it never fails to amaze me that so many of the bloggers and the reporters and those they interview are so very determined to defend their party or trash the other regardless of the circumstances or the transgression and find a way to blame an organization rather than looking at an individual and at that individual’s actions.
I’ve got a secret to share. Most Americans don’t greet a stranger and say, “I’m a democrat.” or “I’m a republican.” Many of us look at a political mess as just that. A mess. Many of us see individuals screw up and think, well, they screwed up.
Should I have a D or an R tattooed on my forehead so that others will know what I think of any given situation? How could party affiliation ever pre-determine a person’s actions? Or pre-determine my expectations? I find this preposterous.
I don’t think Sarah Palin’s unexpected and rather bizarre retirement are a result of her being a republican. I don’t think Mark Sanford’s pecadillos are a result of him being a republican. I don’t think Blagoavich’s abuse of power are the result of him being a democrat.
They are each, on their own, responsible for their own behavior and judgment or lack of it. As am I and everyone else. This attempt to circle the wrong doers in the camp opposite of yours strikes me as silly.
Posted by: Just a Citizen | July 5, 2009, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Why wouldn’t you accept the comment that I just posted? Are you trying to suppress certain points of view? Are you engaging in willful censorship of free expression? Do you have a problem with the expression of certain perfectly rational ideas and reflections about the topic of this discussion? Why do you accept some commentaries but for no apparent reason reject others? If you wish to exclude certain points of view — including views of thoughtful people that are honestly expressed, given in good faith, believed by the writer to be in every way reasonable and appropriate, as well as truthful, and which are intended to contribute to the public good in the sense of helping people to understand the issue at hand — then I think you should advise potential commentators of these facts beforehand, such as by stating as follows: “Expressions of certain points of view are not acceptable and/or will not be considered for posting on this webpage, despite any merits or redeeming qualities that such expression may have. WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE TO ACCEPT ANY POST AT ANY TIME OR FOR ANY REASON WITHOUT FURTHER EXPLANATION. IN OTHER WORDS, WE CENSOR CONTENT. CERTAIN POLITICAL VIEWS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE EXPRESSED.”
May I ask: In what way, or for what reason, did my commentary trigger the response, “This webpage cannot accept this data?” I strongly suggest that if you do reject expression of what would normally be considered perfectly reasonable or rational views, you should keep a permanent record of all such rejected data in an explicitly marked file, for purposes of further analysis. There’s something you may not be understanding correctly.
Posted by: David Ferrell | July 5, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
On Jul 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Michael wrote: “If she’s so dumb, then why are all the Dems obsessing over her?”
——————
Sorry, Michael, but it isn’t the Dems who are obsessing over her. It’s the segment of the GOP that earned the Republicans the title of “God’s Own Party.” What the Dems are concerned about is the unthinking herd-consciousness that the GOP worship of Palin reflects. Palin’s political ideas, to the extent that she really has any, are merely an internalized version of all the foolishness that was programmed into her when she was a child. It appears she is incapable of thinking for herself, which means that her beliefs, ideals, and aspirations — like her thoughts — represent the lowest common denominator of American culture, really a collection of all the potentially stupidest and most out-of-date conceptions. Such ideas and ideals are incorporated into political buzzwords (and symbols) like “patriotism,” “God,” “Country,” “the Flag,” and other such nonsense. Palin is wildly popular among a certain segment in this Country because these kind of empty buzzwords press their buttons. In that sense, they’re robots, like Palin herself. That’s what scares Democrats and other thinking people. The most dangerous kind of leaders achieved and maintained power precisely by their ability (whether consciously directed or not) to press such buttons. Call it an intuitive sense. Those are not the kind of leaders we need, and the 2008 Presidential race took America very close to a situation where we could (by default) have ended up with Palin as President, which would have been a disaster for the Country. Understand???
***********************
On Jul 5, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Clay Freeman wrote: “She had her Obama moment at the Republican convention and it scares the hell out of the Dems.”
—————-
Not so fast, Clay. What scares the Dems is just what I discussed above — her capacity to work a crowd of basically thoughtless people by pressing their buttons. Notice, furthermore, that her “Obama moment” didn’t last long. Even thinking Republicans quickly waked up to the fact that Palin is a lot of show and no substance, and completely unqualified for any national office. She has a strong emotive appeal to many people, as well as (unfortunately) an element of sex appeal. There’s not anything wrong with that as such. But it means that her appeal to those who see her as a viable political candidate is operating at a level below that of rational thought. Of course she’s attractive in many ways, but she lacks the degree of competence and understanding of the world that would have to be considered minimum qualifications for holding national office. It’s actually questionable whether she was fit to be Governor of Alaska or even Mayor of Wasilla. The disturbing thing is that so many Americans today seem not to understand these points. Many people will vote for a candidate based simply on whether that person has a star quality, or an emotional appeal, or an attractive face and form. That’s not what the Presidency is about.
Posted by: David Ferrell | July 5, 2009, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Why does the media give Palin any attention at all? She’s an embarrassment to women, more in love with herself than anything else. Her motivation for resigning midtern will come to light, she is the biggest lame duck of all.
Posted by: Lindy2001 | July 5, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
The bottom line here is that Sarah Palin was NOT qualified to be vice president …and Joe Biden (aka court jester)..is? Whose a bigger buffoon than Joe?
Posted by: JL | July 6, 2009, 12:53 am 12:53 am
She;s stupid because her speeches are not scripted and read from a teleprompter as well as Obama…is that it?? Ok..so Obama has better speech writers..great..that makes him presidential.
Posted by: JL | July 6, 2009, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Whats more stupid than bankrupting the country..? Obama and his admin is doing that…that makes him the most stupid ..I think.
You prefer the polished, sleazy Marxist…or a real person that has conservative principles similar to our founding fathers..
Posted by: JL | July 6, 2009, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Our brilliant president is bankrupting our country, emboldening our enemies, and laying waste to capitalism in America..Im not sure Id making the US into the next banana republic exactly brilliant.
Posted by: JL | July 6, 2009, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Global Warming = another brilliant scheme to raise taxes on everyone and drive our barely recovering economy into the ground..never waste a good crisis…or better yet create one of your own if none is available
Posted by: JL | July 6, 2009, 1:06 am 1:06 am
When I think of credible reporting, I don’t think of Vanity Fair. The liberal democrats have nothing tangible to hate her for, other then that she holds certain convictions they’ll never have.
Secondly, it’s nice to see ACORN finally got their man in the Senate (Al Franken), even though he lost by over 700 votes. Secretary of state of Minnesota (Mark Ritchie – A liberal Democrat) made sure there was a recount, and Franken won. Corruption shall bring more Al Frankens to the Senate. This is the “change” you voted for.
Posted by: Paul | July 6, 2009, 1:20 am 1:20 am
Mrs. Palin has been maligned too much, but apparently not enough for many of these posted comments. Get off her back. She has been accused falsely, spent around a million dollars defending herself against the false accusations, and is fed up with people like that. She is an intelligent, remarkable individual, and she has enough talent to make it to the top with or without the attacks against her. How can she defend herself against this in courts of law and still effectively serve as Governor. She pointed that out, and for the good of Alaska she has stepped down because it is impossible to fight trumped-up court cases and perform duties of governor at the same time. Some of your comments show your own ignorance. Grow upl.
Posted by: Annette | July 6, 2009, 1:27 am 1:27 am
And Obama did?
Posted by: Johnny | July 6, 2009, 4:18 am 4:18 am
She’s know fool like you people think. I hope she sue’s all those who falsely accused her of wrong doing.
BTY – Barry signed a book deal before he was sworn into office.
Posted by: Ramson | July 6, 2009, 8:02 am 8:02 am
She has multimillion dollar book deals and TV offers to go after. That is more important than Alaska to her.
Posted by: xmarks | July 6, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am
The Fascination Of Sarah Palin!
It seems that Sarah is fighting for her political life right now and there is no doubt she is losing. She is too extreme for this country and her actions and behaviors just reinforces both conservatives and liberals, to dismiss her. She is the Paris Hilton of politicians, all smiles and coyness, and no substance.
She is fascinating to so many, and yet most people don’t know why. However isn’t it true that when you come across an accident you slow down, because you just have to take a look? There is something fascinating about a train wreck, a bridge jumper, or a person who is self destructive and doesn’t even know it. We are fascinated by her incredible naïveté, her righteous world view and her over-inflated ego. Her actions are so extreme that they defy common sense and it captures our attention.
The reason why extremists like Sarah Palin are so fascinating to us is because their own understanding of life, has no intelligence which to defend itself. It causes us to stop and stare, shocked with disbelief over statements or actions which make little if no sense.
Extremists like Sarah Palin want so much to be “right” that they render themselves unable to learn anything new. Their reasoning consists of mindless repetition of the same old antiquated beliefs. Even their old bullying tactics no longer work, and they ultimately end up feeling defeated and afraid. This fear drives them to extreme measures without any conscious understanding of the cliff they are about to jump off of. Well, it seems Sarah just jumped off that cliff.
This is not the rise of Sarah Palin or even the extreme right; rather, they are just reacting violently to their own political and social death. Their hatred of anything that challenges their own ignorance is a catalyst for their rage and it spills outwardly in the form of bigotry, intolerance and anger against those they hate and blame the most.
These are the death throes of the extreme right and no matter how clever they believe their plans to be, they are lashing out mindlessly and ineffectively. Sarah Palin is headed to the outer fringes of society where extremism can live quietly, and by the rules of the wild without a political following shocked and awed at her level of ignorance and ineptitude
Posted by: Diana | July 6, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Posted by: Diana
The Fascination Of Sarah Palin!
Well before you give your elitist self a pat on the back, for what I’m sure you think was brilliant, I’d like to remind you the Republicans are the ones that came back from the disgrace of Nixon and have held the WH for over 20 of the years since he left office (if you also count in Ford) so even though I personally would probably get no great joy from them returning to the WH, I would hardly begin to believe the WH won’t be traded back and forth between the two parties (and maybe even a third) long after you and I are both dead. The fact that you don’t fully understand what Palin stands for, (and to some extent me either) and how she connects with many people out there (this I get) doesn’t IMO mean her views are any more extremist than our Presidents. It just depends on your point of view. Many share her views, many don’t, but I do believe she does, (as does Obama) in there own way have the countries interest at heart. It’s the folks like you, that lash out and vilify people that IMO are the extremist.
Posted by: Baddawg00 | July 6, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
The GOP is now gloriously free to run the woman, Ann Coulter.
Posted by: TheGaySwami | July 6, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
I’m just not sure why everyone is surprised at Sarah Palin’s announcement. Cokie Roberts has recently revised her book “We Are Our Mothers Daughters” espousing why there’s a need for women in politics. Unfortunately, Cokie hasn’t taken a clear view of how today’s women in politics are treating up-and comers trying to assimilate into that role. So — Sarah bahaved exactly how Nancy Pelosi and her fellow Dems/women in office have done, albeit w/a much larger dose of class. Called a news conference late Friday afternoon right before a major holiday (while congress wasn’t in town no less) and politely told the media to kiss off, leaving them to speculate and wonder why,why, why???
The answer is simple, dear ladies with dreams of entering the arena: The current barracudas in office will NOT allow those who aspire to be a civil servant room at the table. Doesn’t matter what party you’re in, if you don’t agree with them, they’ll chew you up and throw you out — by any means necessary. And God forbid that you NOT from the East Coast — I mean you KNOW no one with brains or importance lives beyond Iowa(or so the media would have you think)!
You go Sarah — I admire your refusal to play ball with these witches!
And the chickens they will be a comin’ home to rooset.
Posted by: G | July 6, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
All you people are fools. She knows exactly what she’s doing and you people can’t stand it.
Posted by: Ramson | July 6, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
As a Democrat I can not think of anyone I’d rather have the republicans run.
Posted by: John Nance Garner | July 6, 2009, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Hmmm…her detractors are 0 for 15, regarding ethics charges. As a private citizen, it may be time for countersuits. She could probably use some of George Soros’ money if she wins a few settlements…very deep pockets there…the future will be interesting.
Posted by: FRED | July 7, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am
To Cynthia Tucker’s comments re Hiliary Clinton vs Palin and “taking the heat”:
1) Hiliary was blasted while she was the SPOUSE of a President, NOT an officially “elected” candidate.
2) Barack Obamma doen’s have too much of a leg to stand on as far as “experience” is concerned. I suppose you think two yrs in the Senate voting “Present” and 2 yrs travelling around campaigning justifies “discipline?”
3) Intellectualism can “sound” good without meaning too much. Perhaps you should test the waters farther west than Iowa where people are smart but may not “sound” intellectual.
4) Sarah’s decision to make her announcement when she did was a brilliant strategy! If you can’t understand that, you’ve lived East Coast too long!
Posted by: WBGSJ | July 7, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
You asked whom cares about Sara Palin well I do! I’m a Democrat & Hispanic. A Divorse mother of 5, ohh well thats life. She’s a fresh breath of air, I loved Hilary Clinton and I was so sad to see her lose in the primaries. Most of you attact them both with a furry her like they really had a chance. WHEN ARE WE GONNA MAKE OUR CITIZENS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEM SELVES. OH KNOW IT WELL NEVER HAPPEN WE HAVE STIMULASES TO FALL BACK ON. WHERE ARE THE JOB’S? THE ILLEGAL ALEINS HAVE THEM ALL.
Posted by: Bea Alvarez-Esparza | July 7, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I loved Hilary Clinton and I was so sad to see her lose in the primaries. Most of you attact them both with a furry her like they really had a chance.
Posted by: Bea Alvarez-Esparza
I’ve raised this point before, but since you seem to be correlating the two, I’ll bring it up again. The Dem party has attacked Sarah Palin, like they’ve only attacked another woman Hillary Clinton. Two different parties with about the only thing in common is they’re women. The Dems tell us men have been attacked this way for years, but I never remember in the 30+ years I’ve been voting, for any other candidate to be vilified the way these two women have. Even McCain, didn’t receive the horrible treatment Palin did, and he was the one running for President. It has only gotten worse for Palin, and she’s not even running for anything.
The Dem party didn’t even have the decency after Hillary’s loss in the primaries to do what the norm has been in primaries, having her on the ticket to bring the two sides together. Instead they went against that protocol and snubbed Mrs. Clinton. This party apparently now is more than willing to show their sexist side, and then bring a group of paid male political analyst together, pat themselves on the back, telling themselves and the country it isn’t so. Unfortunately our country seems too uninterested to question this or they buy it.
At one time a woman had a chance not only to become vice president of the country, she also had a chance to break the glass ceiling. When Obama picked Biden, that hope was dashed, Until the women of the country rise up and tolerate this misogynistic attitude no longer, I fear the sexist ways of the Dem party will become more prevalent, and women will lose more of what they gained in the women’s lib movement.
Posted by: Baddawg00 | July 7, 2009, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Americans do not like people who cut and run on their responsibilities.
Americans are sick of their alleged leaders putting self interest before the public interest.
Palin’s done.
Posted by: LastRepublicanStandingInMass | July 8, 2009, 2:27 am 2:27 am
To LastRepublicanStandinginMass
I believe your comments better fit our current President. Pray tell how well he represented the constituants of IL during the two years he voted “Present” for two yrs and then hitting the campaign trail for 18 months while ignoring his REAL job?
Posted by: WBGSJ | July 8, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am
I like Sarah Palin…..
Posted by: dkihnley | July 8, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Hey Mr. Farrell,
Lot’s of words in your last post but you are wrong on all counts.
And to many others: If republicans were obsessing on her, who would know about it? At last count (that I saw) the news media was 88% Dem. If only repub’s cared about her, there would be no stories about her on CBS, NBC, MSNBC or ABC… You would have to tune into Rush to hear about her. Who’s done that?…show of hands?…I didn’t think so…I think she is scaring someone.
Or maybe you all get your news from Letterman…
Posted by: FRED | July 9, 2009, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Why should it really matter what we think about Sarah Palin’s decision? It all comes down to what she believes is best for her family and for her constituants. No amount of talk by “others” that have not been through what she has been through is going to change the situation. I have watched David Letterman and seen the mean comments that he continues to make, even after she has stepped out of her offical office. What would he say if his child was poked fun of on national tv nightly? There is comedy and there is sarcasim that is nasty. Anyway, I would rather people would discuss things that are currently affecting our nation and not “gossip” and “speculate” about Sarah Palin or any other offical that has erred in there conduct. There are alot to choose from.
Posted by: dee | July 9, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I think, that is just Media, who cares, what this stupid woman would do.
Who else?
There are not many idiots in this country to support this Idiot-Palin.
So, woman should better go and work, that she never did in her life, but trying managing others.
That did not work: neither for her nor for others.
What a useless creature!
Posted by: Linda,Fl | July 12, 2009, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
I can’t decide which former governor I like better–Palin or Blagojevich!!
Posted by: Liz | July 15, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm