By Caitlin Taylor

Jul 8, 2009 7:58am

The Note: Economies of Sale — Obama Agenda Threatened by Economy

By RICK KLEIN Look what’s back. It took a trip abroad, a few Republicans to make some other news, and maybe even one of those once-a-decade funerals that double as international events, but the economy is the big issue again. It’s never really gone away — though $787 billion in stimulus cash was supposed to have turned things around by now. But it hasn’t, and here we are. Give us a jobs report, a sliding Dow, a vice-presidential admission, and a presidential certainty that everything was handled right, and we’ve got a fresh dose of the issue that’s always been here — and that’s closer than ever to belonging to the Democrats alone. (If the domestic divisions weren’t enough, let’s go international: The economy will be a main focus at Wednesday’s G-8 sessions, in Italy, where President Obama spends his day after wrapping up the Russia portion of his trip.)
(And while he’s been away — maybe a bit too much playing by his top aides? So far, President Obama has had to tidy up some mixed messaging coming from his vice president and his chief of staff; it’s only Wednesday.) On the economy — this time, it’s not as easy to blame the predecessors. This time, the pressure to change course comes from the left and the right. This time, there’s an ambitious domestic agenda that’s at risk of getting sidetracked. Now, it’s the president himself on the line. “There are political warning lights flashing,” Dan Balz writes in The Washington Post.  “It seems hard to square an assessment that the administration underestimated the severity of the recession and the assertion that the White House wouldn't have done anything differently had it known how bad things really were,” Balz writes. “Concerns about whether the stimulus package is working, or will, are the last thing Obama needs at this moment.” (This may be why Vice President Joe Biden is headed to Ohio Thursday to tout the stimulus: “In the past two months, Obama's overall approval rating in the state dropped from 62 percent to 49 percent. His economic approval rating also fell, from 57 percent to 46 percent. Most significant was the sharp decline among independents. Obama's economic approval rating among these critically important voters plummeted from 51 percent to 33 percent. His overall approval dropped from 59 percent to 38 percent.”) Nate Silver, at FiveThirtyEight.com: “Obama's approval ratings have declined nationwide by perhaps 3-5 points since early May. I have little doubt that this has mostly to do with the flagging economy. Each day, a few more voters are going to blame Obama for the economic troubles that we're in.”  What of the rest of the agenda? “The jobs report last week opened a long gash beneath the waterline of President Obama's legislative agenda. Few realize it, but a scramble for lifeboats is about to begin,” Michael Gerson writes in his column. “By the time the health-care debate begins in earnest, these [fiscal] challenges at the federal level will be unavoidable. . . . Or maybe the captain could wake the passengers, end their dreams and announce the obvious: Because the economy has not improved, ambitious health reform must wait.”  Is the president convinced enough has been done? “Yes,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters aboard Air Force Once, en route to Italy. “But, again, we're going to — we continue to watch what's going on. The reason I say we don't rule it out or rule it in is — I mean, I think the bottom line for the president is, if there are steps that he thinks and his team thinks need to be taken to improve our economy, we won't hesitate to do that.” A little more open: “We need to be open to whether or not we need additional action” to stimulate the economy, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., told reporters, per Bloomberg’s James Rowley and Brian Faler.  “Democrats are all over the map on the stimulus and the possibility of a sequel, and it’s not hard to see why: When it comes to a second stimulus, they may be damned if they do and damned if they don’t,” Politico’s Victoria McGrane reports.  The thing about the urgency around quick action: “The Obama administration made its work harder by fostering unrealistic expectations. It projected in February a far rosier economic outlook than private analysts did,” McClatchy’s Kevin G. Hall and David Lightman report. “Obama's stimulus was designed to create 3.5 million jobs. That would replace only about half the jobs lost since the recession began.”  Need more proof that the economy is back as the issue? “U.S. stocks fell to their lowest level in 10 weeks on Tuesday as talk of a second government stimulus plan heightened fears that the economy is not yet on the path to recovery and that the corporate earnings season starting this week will be weak,” Reuters’ Edward Krudy reports.  (And what happens if unemployment reaches 14 percent –as predicted by Louis Woodhill, at RealClearMarkets?)  About those jobs: “Leading economists agree that the most powerful effects of the stimulus package have yet to be felt. But even if the measure lives up to Obama's expectations, it would barely offset the 433,000 jobs the nation lost last month alone, and the resulting employment would represent a drop in the bucket compared with the 6.5 million jobs lost since the recession began in December 2007,” Lori Montgomery writes in The Washington Post.  A counterpoint, from Bob Shrum in The Week: “For the GOP, it's another case of buying short-term press at the expense of coherent strategy. The party again reinforced the sense that it has no answers of its own; Republicans came across as transparently eager for a continuing or deepening recession that they can blame on Obama,” Shrum writes. “The GOP will pay a heavy political price if the economy does turn around.”   Unless: “the GOP's spectral rhetoric could spook congressional Democrats into a self-destructive period of doubt and disarray,” Shrum continues. “The casualties would be health reform, the energy bill that still has to pass the Senate, and conceivably a second stimulus package — which Vice President Biden just refused to rule out because it may be needed. The other casualties would be the Democrats themselves; instead of changing the country, the outcome would be a change in the balance of political power.” Firing back: The DNC is releasing a new Web video taking on House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, for his contention that the stimulus has brought no actual Ohio infrastructure projects. “His own state’s newspaper found that Boehner was flat wrong,” the narrator says.    (Look for more ads like it, as Democrats serve notice that the political fight over the stimulus flows both ways.) Biden is back on the road Wednesday to tout the stimulus. But another new Government Accountability Office report questions the impact: “The Obama administration hoped spending $787 billion in stimulus would jump-start the economy, build new schools and usher in an era of education reform. So far, government auditors say, many states are setting aside such grand plans and simply trying to stay afloat,” the AP’s Kimberly Hefling reports. “But investigators found repeated examples in which, either out of desperation or convenience, states favored short-term spending over long-term efforts such as education reform.”  “The report says that as of mid-June, states had received about $29 billion of the estimated $49 billion in stimulus funding they are scheduled to get before the federal budget year ends Sept. 30,” per USA Today’s Matt Kelley. “More than 90% of the money given to the states so far is for Medicaid and a fund meant to prop up states' budgets for schools and other basic services such as public safety.”  The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform has a hearing Wednesday on the stimulus — where Republicans will press governors as well as representatives of the GAO and OMB. Biden hits the road, in Ohio and New York State, to make the case on the stimulus Thursday. But first, “Vice President Biden will be in Washington, DC. At 10:30 AM EDT, Vice President Biden, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Chairman of the Senate Committee on Finance Max Baucus and representatives of the hospital industry will make a major health care announcement.” Just behind these announcements: “In each case, the Obama administration hailed the agreements as historic. But what has been little discussed is what the industry groups will be getting in return for their cooperation, whether or not the promised savings ever materialize,” David M. Herszenhorn and Sheryl Gay Stolberg report in The New York Times. “Some lawmakers said the deals, while seemingly helpful, could raise false expectations by obscuring how much the industry is demanding for its concessions.”  President Obama is in L'Aquila, Italy, with G-8 meetings marking the day. The economy follows him there, too: “Britain and the United States may see room for more stimulus. Germany is worried that it has done too much already,” per the AP’s Colleen Barry and Jane Wardell. “The leaders of the Group of Eight nations — united in their desire to work together to combat the worst economic crisis since the Depression, but still divided on how much longer they need to keep the stimulus going — will discuss on Wednesday ways to coordinate their exit strategies once their economies are stable enough.”  “As President Obama heads for his second economic summit in three months, lingering skepticism about U.S. leadership threatens to produce a policy stalemate that could undercut prospects for recovery at home and abroad,” the Los Angeles Times’ Don Lee reports. “Behind a veil of traditional diplomatic courtesy, leaders of the other wealthy economies are all but certain to resist any major new steps to stimulate global economic activity. That reality is reflected in Obama's announced intention to emphasize initiatives on food security instead of more crucial issues like stimulus spending or jobs.”  On health care — a split to get things going. This time it’s MoveOn.org taking on White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. ABC’s Jake Tapper: “Rahm Emanuel's remarks in [Tuesday's] Wall Street Journal — in which he argued that a government-run public health care plan isn't as important as the need for competition driving down insurance costs — has resulted in the liberal group MoveOn.org rallying its base to tell President Obama to resist Emanuel's views. . . . This afternoon, MoveOn sent out an email to its more than 3 million members saying that ‘Emanuel signaled support for a “trigger” provision — a proposal that would undermine the public option, and put off real reform for years.’ “  Not just off the Hill: “Congressional liberals on Tuesday stressed their willingness to vote down a health care overhaul that lacks a robust government insurance plan, after White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel suggested such a plan could be delayed,” Roll Call’s Steven T. Dennis and Keith Koffler report. “Emanuel’s comments effectively poked a sharp stick into the thorniest philosophical divide among Democrats. House liberals have repeatedly threatened to vote down any bill that includes a trigger, while Blue Dog Democrats strongly support a trigger and may not support a bill without one.”  Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.: “I have never heard that they were for the trigger, OK? So that came as a surprise to me.”  With the president issuing a clarification stating his continued support for a public option, Slate’s John Dickerson calls it the “Obama/Emanuel two-step.” “It merely reflects the strategic ambiguity Obama has been trying to achieve throughout this process. Yes, he's for a public plan — but he's not specific, which means his support can mean all things to all people. This ambiguity gives the president room to make deals, and it doesn't impinge on Congress's prerogatives. But it also creates explosive moments of confusion.” From the sausage factory: “Senators are cooling to a proposal that would impose a first-ever tax on employer-provided health insurance and are giving renewed attention to taxes on the wealthy to pay for a sweeping health-care overhaul,” Greg Hitt and Janet Adamy write in The Wall Street Journal. “Senate negotiators are considering a wider range of ways to pay for expanding health coverage, including President Barack Obama's proposal to limit tax deductions for the wealthy and another proposal to impose an income surtax on the wealthy, people familiar with the matter said.”  “Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Tuesday ordered Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) to drop a proposal to tax health benefits and stop chasing Republican votes on a massive health care reform bill,” Roll Call’s David M. Drucker and Emily Pierce report.  Your daily dose of Gov. Sarah Palin, R-Alaska: Her attorney, Thomas V. Van Flein, writes an open letter on The Wall Street Journal’s law blog explaining her legal bills — and concluding thusly: “The Governor has created a new political reality and is changing the battlefield to pursue her goals of energy independence for America, rational tax policies, improved national security and more efficient and smaller government. I suspect you may see her in the future.”  Charlie Cook sees something resembling a plan: “Palin's decision to step down earlier seems totally reasonable, even if badly executed. The widespread negative reaction among the political press seems to be a combination of shock that a presidential contender was doing something outside the box (she actually gives up power — how extraordinary! — and puts all her chips on a presidential bid earlier than they are accustomed to), and a disdain that many in the press have for her and anything she does — as she reciprocally seems to have for them.”  Want her to campaign for you? That’s a solid maybe: “I don't know how this recent announcement — which I still don't fully understand, I only know what I've read in the media — how that fully plays out, and whether she's going to just prefer a private life or whether she still wants to stay actively involved,” said gubernatorial candidate Bob McDonnell, R-Va., on ABCNews.com’s “Top Line.” “I think she'd be a good spokesman.”  Republicans get their top recruit in New Hampshire: “Attorney General Kelly Ayotte yesterday announced she will resign as the state's chief law enforcement official effective July 17 to consider starting a political career,” per the Union Leader. “Ayotte, who has been viewed as a rising star in New Hampshire Republican politics since she became attorney general in 2004, has long been considered interested in a political career and has long been encouraged by Republicans to run for office.”  Democrats don’t get their top recruit in South Dakota: “U.S. Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin will run for re-election to the House, her office announced in an email,” per the Argus Leader. “There had been speculation that Herseth Sandlin might run for governor of South Dakota. But her statement today indicates that she will be on the ballot for the U.S. House race in 2010.”  Getting flashbacks? “Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove was deposed Tuesday by attorneys for the House Judiciary Committee, according to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), the panel’s chairman,” Politico’s John Bresnahan and Josh Gerstein report. “Rove’s deposition began at 10 a.m. and ended around 6:30 p.m, with several breaks, Conyers said.”  The Chicago Sun-Times’ Lynn Sweet writes up Kal Penn’s first day at work at the White House: “I brushed my teeth, I did floss, used mouthwash . . . took the bus to work, the same thing everybody does,” Penn — now again going by Kalpen Modi — said. 
The Kicker: “I don’t know if anybody else will meet their future wife or husband in class like I did, but I’m sure you’ll all going to have wonderful careers.” — President Obama, who actually met his wife in Chicago in 1989 — after Michelle Obama had graduated from Harvard Law. 
  “I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at this, the things we have been charged with, and automatically throw them out, not make somebody hire their own personal attorney to get out there and fight.” — Gov. Sarah Palin, R-Alaska, hopeful that she could leave the “political blood sport” back in Alaska. 
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User Comments

I wish you could get the Ames Iowa ABC to find the guy Sent Grassley pu down over the 4th at a town hall meeting.Do an interview with him about hving no insurance and having Grassley smart off to him in public.

Posted by: Peter Gatliff | July 8, 2009, 8:44 am 8:44 am

“$787 billion in stimulus was supposed to have turned tings around by now.” Besides the anti-Obama media, who ever set this timeline for national benefits from the stimulus? Certainly not the Obama administration.
The stimulus was a fool-proof method to shoe up the economy, stop the country from teetering over the edge of depression and be the beginning of the hard road to recovery. It was never advertised as the perfect solution to all of the economy’s ailments.

Posted by: matt | July 8, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am

“though $787 billion in stimulus cash was supposed to have turned things around by now.
But it hasn’t, and here we are.”
I thought it would work this way. The only people who benefited were those who despite their incompetance, got the government (taxpayer) to keep their gravy train on track.

Posted by: LongT | July 8, 2009, 9:03 am 9:03 am

I can say it!
Told ya so! :)

Posted by: ajax | July 8, 2009, 9:08 am 9:08 am

There is a growing feeling that Team Obama does not have a clue!! They have obligated tax payer money to enhance their personal power (AIG, Financial Institutions, GM, Chrysler, turning the once strong energy sector on its ear, and now attempting to take control of the best health care system in the world).
During the 4th of July weekend, experienced a ‘Tea Party’. I was shocked to witness the disdain folks have developed for their government and the politicians running it. The politicians have lost credibility, respect, and trust with the people they are supposed to be serving. I am not sure what all of this means for this country’s future, but the direction Team Obama is taking the Country IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE MASSES!

Posted by: PappyHappy | July 8, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Everything ties to the economy even the swine flu. If you had read all my posts here before, you should have noticed that I was opposed to the Obama stimulation from the beginning. The reason is simple becauce the idea behind that stimulation was naiive and had been proven not workable by the Bush experience and the FDR experience. It does not matter at this point who created the mess originally. You can blame it on G. W. Bush, or you can blame it on Clinton or all the way back to Bush’s father and Reagan. The bottom line is that Obama ran on the platform of fixing this economy for us. If the economy is still not improving at this time, he should come up with some fresh ideas. The problem is if he couldn’t even know how to deal with a smaller crisis like the swine flu, how can I have any confidence in him on fixing this very complex economy?

Posted by: DelegateMath | July 8, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am

BO makes George W Bush look like George Washington. Both Biden and the Dear leader are clowns at best, elections have consequences.

Posted by: Darthgator | July 8, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am

“…$787 billion in stimulus cash was supposed to have turned things around by now.”
Gee, Rick Klein, you forget to tell us which major economists expected a turnaround by the first half of 2009.
Oh, that’s right! There are any who did, were there.
Oh my, that makes you what, a misleading disseminator of false information?
And how about:
“The Kicker:
“I don’t know if anybody else will meet their future wife or husband in class like I did, but I’m sure you’ll all going to have wonderful careers.” — President Obama, who actually met his wife in Chicago in 1989 — after Michelle Obama had graduated from Harvard Law.
Yes, he met her at a mentoring CLASS in Chicago in 1989. Believe it or not, some of us take additional classes after college.
You should try it. The “class” would surely help you.

Posted by: The_Mick | July 8, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am

hey charles gibson how come there is no reporting on the huge rallys against chavez and cnn. used to be news networks ate these storys up. how about getting out of obamas pocket.

Posted by: xl500 | July 8, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Dems, we’ll be reminding you daily about the stimulus failing in 2010/2012. Keep up the good work! You’re providing us all the material we need to send you socialists packing.

Posted by: afkbrad | July 8, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am

The Note: Economies of Sale — Obama Agenda Threatened by Economy
ABC has it backwards. The economy is threatened by Obama’s agenda.

Posted by: betsy | July 8, 2009, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Having followed this administration’s efforts concerning economic recovery, toward affordable energy solutions, toward immigration control, toward affordable healthcare, toward ending the wars and controlling nuclear proliferation, toward redistribution of wealth, the term “fumblebums” comes to mind. There’s no apparent direction for the party in power. Our leadership is all over the board on support of it’s own party’s agenda. Many points of the party agenda are unpopular with a huge segment of the population as our president tries to sell us on having been given a mandate for reform. But the biggest problem we face is the economy. Even while (what?), only 5% of the first stimulus money has been spent at this time, our leaders are setting the stage for appropriation for a second stimulus package. Must be a comfort to the government spending machine to have such deep pockets. Too bad we the people have holes in our pockets. So far, the only things that have been accomplished are the destruction of our manufacturing base, America’s primary industry that provided both jobs for the people and income for the government, and assured increases in national debt that assures higher taxes.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | July 8, 2009, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Obama has lost three points on his approval rating? Oh my goodness, maybe he should resign, step down, throw in the towel, this job is just sooo hard, what with blogggers criticizing him, and constituents complaining and the media ready to ridicule his every gaffe, if he ever makes one, and surely one of these days his family will crack and do something embarrassing the comedians will have a field day with and that will be upsetting, maybe Obama should just hand it over to Biden now, cause the Presidency work is just going to get more boring from here on out.

Posted by: Amy B Maine | July 8, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am

The economy sucks. Job loss is still out there. But let’s go back to when all of this started – December 2007. That’s 19 months ago. 19. I guess I’m the only person in the US who took Obama and his team literally when they said the recession would get worse before it got better. It’s been 6 months since Obama took office. Not even a full 6 months as of today. I don’t understand how people think he could have possibly turned our country around in 6 months. He might never make it happen, but to expect him to do it in 6 months? I guess those that want to pick and call him the Messiah must really believe he is if they think he can turn this mess around that quickly. Brace yourselves people. The problems that exist in our country right now, won’t be going any where in the very near future. We now know that companies are using the economy as an excuse to cut head count, even when they’re turning a profit. The problem is, they want to turn MORE profit. Seems to me, the best companies in the world know how to ride out financial storms, and understand that some years, breaking even isn’t a bad thing. But yet here we are, in the 21st century. A century so far defined by the US creating an unnecessary ware in Iraq, and Greed. And greed is what’s causing the economy to fail right now. Not politicians. Greed.

Posted by: WeaponX | July 8, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Amy B Maine; When someone is put in charge because of promises they made we expect results. Do you have a problem with candid scrutiny of his performance?

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | July 8, 2009, 10:33 am 10:33 am

WHAAAAAT Say it aint so. Someone dare to question King Obamabubble’s economic policy????? Is the MSM fish starting to wake up???? How funny.

Posted by: BILLY BOB | July 8, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

WeaponX | The point here is that what Obama has don has actually hurt the economy. How bad does it have to get before you understand that???

Posted by: BILLY BOB | July 8, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am

This is what happens when the people elect a political neophyte with a God complex as POTUS. I did not vote for this one or the last one, and hopefully the people will wake up and find us a quality president, since we can not count on either party to nominate one.

Posted by: Alex | July 8, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am

The stimulus is being used to fill the wish list of states, counties, and cities for equipment purchases. This results in NO direct jobs created and very few secondary jobs. More stimulus of this type just won’t work.

Posted by: Jeff | July 8, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

The hype is wearing off quickly. It has become clear that most of the pre-election criticisms of H are true. He has no experience and has no clue. He is a narcissist that loves to hear his own voice. He sweet talked and hoodwinked just enough sheep to get himself elected. Now he doesn’t even remember half of the outrageous promises he made and doesn’t plan on keeping the other half. To quote H “I have a gift”. Yes he does a gift only the blind can see.

Posted by: pops | July 8, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Yeah well the blame bush card has pretty much worn out its use. I can tell you one thing…if the dems suggest another stimulus when they have botched this first one up with earmarks and useless spending I can guarantee in 2010 a serious shift in power. I mean it already in many right now to stop this runaway train. People are so fed up with the economy right now and then on top of that this administration wants to push healthcare which will cost a crapload and cap and trade which will tax everyone. Write your reps and voice your concern. That is the only way to get your popint across and not on a comment board!

Posted by: JMW1824 | July 8, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am

mmonroeliveson
I was being sarcastic. (Why does that never translate online?) Making fun of Palin, can’t resist. Obama can take your criticisms, he’s a strong, capable, engaged and responsible leader. Are we to believe things would have been better under McCain? I am well pleased with Obama, he’s doing a great job and I doubt the economy would be any better under any other leadership.

Posted by: Amy B Maine | July 8, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am

So… You know that most of the stimulus is going to be spent in 2010 when the debates for re-election are going on right? Are this power hunger idiots going to fool you again? That’s what their banking on. I have little faith in the American people. I think most of you will be fooled, you’ll will keep them in office and live to regret it.. again and again and again, who are the idiots? Obama voters!

Posted by: worriedmom | July 8, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Obama’s stimulus, like Bush’s stimulus, failed to stimulate because it wasn’t a stimulus bill, rather, a handout to Bush and Obama’s cronies, special interest groups, big business, donors, and Wall Street.
Maybe had they given the stimulus money to, oh I don’t know, the American people, then this wouldn’t have happened, no?

Posted by: DKJamal | July 8, 2009, 11:46 am 11:46 am

“”"”"”"”"”"The stimulus was a fool-proof method to shoe up the economy, stop the country from teetering over the edge of depression and be the beginning of the hard road to recovery. It was never advertised as the perfect solution to all of the economy’s ailments. Posted by: matt “”"”"”"”"”"”"
Matt, Obama promised the stimulus would create or save 3 million jobs and many were “shovel ready”. He promised passing it would keep unemployment under 8%. Those were his main points and neither, after 5 months have come even close to his predictions.

Posted by: lfrichar | July 8, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am

I wonder if all the brilliant minds have any idea of when this mess started. Ask yourselves, what you would do in the position of president. It doesn’t seem to matter to many, what caused the crisis, as it is easier to disparage what effort has been tried to avoid a complete economic meltdown. The problems of yesterday and today will pale in significance to those of tomorrow if we don’t start now. Do I agree with all the plicies of the Administration, HELL NO! but then again I don’t have the problem trying to run blindfolded through a minefield of problems with critics yelling directions to run. God help us all if our politicians can’t determine ways to avoid creating more problems. American can’t afford too much more of the bipatisianship jerks. For once it would be a miracle if they could really work together to solve the mess they have helped make.

Posted by: Mike Morrison | July 8, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

While I don’t know for sure whether the Obama administration offered a timeline, I do know that he promised that unemployment would not go above eight percent if the stimulus package was passed for “shovel ready” projects. I also know that he promised that anyone making less than $250,000 a year would not see a tax increase “of any kind”. Now less than 10% of the money has been spent because the projects are not shovel ready and the money was back loaded in the bill anyway, so as not to stimulate the economy or provide any immediate relief to the economy! But for all of that, the religious ferver around the man points the finger at others in a blame storming session instead of the Obama administration owning up to its dismal failures. George Bush is not our president any longer! Obama is steering this ship. I will start thinking outside of the box after I see that this current administration can think inside of the box! Leniar thinking is required for simple economic equations – not rationalizations explaining the complexities of making one plus one equal two. Some of us don’t find any justification for presuming that a tree doesn’t make a noise when no one else is around to hear it, and we don’t want that kind of religion shoved down our throats. The shameful optimistic and favorable repeating and reporting what the Obama administration wants said, while ignoring the simplicity of hard facts is stifling to say the least. That means there is nowhere for much of the population to be informed outside of the main channels of communication and disinformation.

Posted by: dalosophy | July 8, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Mike,
Actually most everyone does indeed understand how got where we are today.
Hint…It is NOT all Bush’s doing!
Blame can be spread on both parties over many years!
The point being made is not which politician did what at a specific point in time, but rather HOW do we gather data on the current plan from THIS President. Wether we agree or not with his policies and choices, the fact remanins it is HIS plan that is in place with 787 Billion of our dollars!
THIS President PROMISED transparency and HIS administration did indeed make statements about what this plan would do. Remember the phrase “we risk turing a crisis into a catastrophe”….
There were indeed many “shovel-ready” projects throughout the country. The question is at this moment in time, how much money has gone to those projects AND how many workers were hired as a result of companies performing on these projects?
Right now, the Recovery Act website is still showing the 2 year prjections for new jobs. No real data has shown up there.
Now, this job data is critical is determining IF this “Stimulator” has been successful or not!

Posted by: Mike_C | July 8, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

my brother and sister are both unemployed due to layoffs. they both refuse to take what amounts to a 20% paycut to be employed and say that under obama they dont need to take a subpar job for at least 18 months. they honestly believe that its better to be unemployed than work as the govt pay is enough to keep them from working

Posted by: catman | July 8, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

General Dwight D. Eisenhower – Today would he be to the extreme Left?
What are the odds of him declaring a Great Civil War and spend a Trillion Dollars the Interstate, Bridges, Levees, Dams, etc. And saying: “We cannot let are children suffer because we are too arrogant to build and to repair.”

Posted by: paofpa | July 8, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

rassmussen and san fran examiner say obama is TANKING in the polls. 70% against another stimulas. he is now down to 52%. i liked as a person but i knew his agenda was pie in the sky. i am an independent and smart enough to know fact from fiction. this party may, fortunately, be coming to an end.

Posted by: catman | July 8, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

WeaponX: The politicians ARE to blame…the greedy ones, with Obama and Biden being two of them. I swear, our government must think that money grows on trees planted in the backyards of every American worker who pays taxes, and now they’re coming to get what they think is rightfully theirs. Hold on to your wallets!

Posted by: Lisa | July 8, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

lame.

Posted by: dinka | July 8, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

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Posted by: Maura | July 8, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Of course these plans are gonna fail. They are planss concocted by Democrats! They didnt even read the whole plan before stuffing in their own pork laden agendas into it. Whoever didnt see this coming was quite foolish and naive about democrats in general. All they ever do is tax and spend and make excuses. Just like a bad corporate manager who doesnt know how to do anything but throw money and people at a problem.

Posted by: guesswhaturwrong | July 8, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

I would legalize and end the prohibition of marijuana if I was President WAY before I passed any kind of second stimulus. Doing so would cut the profits of Mexican drug cartels by about 50% and also help to create millions of legitimate jobs in America. Farmers, dispensary operators, shippers, recievers, transportation, manufacturing and retail jobs would be created and benefit from such a move. It took the end of alcohol prohibition to move us out of the great depression. Under Obama what we have now is a “Great Recession” and we need a springboard out of this mess I might even make regular cigarettes illegal instead in the TRUE interest of healthcare. Not just to tax us to death. Congress forgets that July the 4th isnt about fireworks and BBQ’s its about how we went to war over unjust taxation and overbearing government and WON!!!

Posted by: guesswhaturwrong | July 8, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Did you know that before income tax was created 1/3 of the USA’s tax revenues came from the sale of alcohol?
So check it out maybe congress will make marijuana legal and tax it when they realize this April they may lose as much as 15% in income tax revenue (from all the unemployed people) dont you think unemployment will reach 15% by April 2010? I do! Maybe they will wake up because by 2011 at the current rate unemployment may hit 30% and 45% by 2012!!!
Despite pleas throughout the 1920s by journalist H.L. Mencken and a tiny handful of other sensible people to end Prohibition, Congress gave no hint that it would repeal this folly. Alcohol Prohibition appeared to be here to stay — until income-tax revenues nose-dived in the early 1930s.
From 1930 to 1931, income-tax revenues fell by 15 percent.
In 1932 they fell another 37 percent; 1932 income-tax revenues were 46 percent lower than just two years earlier. And by 1933 they were fully 60 percent lower than in 1930.
With no end of the Depression in sight, Washington got anxious for a substitute source of revenue.
That source was liquor sales.

Posted by: guesswhaturwrong | July 8, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

“The stimulus was a fool-proof method to shoe up the economy, stop the country from teetering over the edge of depression and be the beginning of the hard road to recovery. It was never advertised as the perfect solution to all of the economy’s ailments”
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LOL…are you insane?
The word fool-proof NEVER EVER belongs in a sentence that also has the word economy in it!
There is ZERO imperical evidence that says if the there had been no 787 Billion dollar “Stimulator” that we would have gone into a depression. There are opinions, yes, but no hard facts!
Your right that is was not advertised as the “perfect” solution, but it sure was advertised as a solution.
What I want to see is the real data that we can get now. The whole idea of transparency is for US, the people, to be able to see what is really happening. Also it gives the public a chance to decide if pressure should be brought forth on the government to stop spending on things that are not working!

Posted by: Mike_C | July 8, 2009, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Well, Obamabots, have you got buyer’s remorse yet? My company just had its worst sales month ever in June. So if you think things are getting better, think again. Bam Bam is ruining this economy and this country. Time to start looking for real estate in Europe.

Posted by: Anita Baker | July 8, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Amy B Maine and if his ratings continue to slide 5% a month, that means his ratings will be down to Bush’s ratings after 8 years in less than one year. He is going to have to raise more taxes breaking even more promises. Now thats impressive

Posted by: Boxcar | July 8, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Watch out, America. They are now whispering about a 2ND stimulus package. They are just putting it out there right now until we get use to hearing about it and THEN they will give us another huge debt. O’Bama needs to be in touch with smarter people than the ones around him. They are doing SUCH a horrible job of this. We are going to be as broke as California if this keeps up!!!

Posted by: M. Summer | July 8, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Bravo, Pops!
Bravo. What a magnificent and eloquent way to state the obvious – Obama was a used car salesman who hustled America.
The Chicago Way. :)

Posted by: Sam Adams | July 8, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Obama is such a compulsive liar it is absolutely shocking. Not so shocking as the utter morons who continue to defend the Marxist Socialist who CANNOT PROVIDE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Obama will go down in history as the greatest phony of all time, NOT the smartest guy, like the media told us.
Too bad, dummycats.

Posted by: Sam Adams | July 8, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

More like Obama was hustled by the slickest used-car salesmen of all: GM and Chrysler who realized when they saw Obama doling out billions to banks who cried broke that they could also do the same after all both banks and car companies write loans. Only an idiot would believe that car companies and banks are broke and not hiding the money. Of course they can blame unions and this and cost but bottom line is Obama was swindled for money. So he took the country along with him.

Posted by: guesswhaturwrong | July 8, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

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