He canout reach everything he wants but the bottom line is “they don’t care” They know he is weak and easy to persuade. By the way check the news in Afghanistan, one of ther Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there.Sooner or later he is going to find out that Bush was right.You can’t cut loose those who want to hurt us period.
Posted by: Frank | July 7, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Frank and Pauldia,
Your macho stance without thought or due deliberation has cost this country almost 5000 lives in Iraq. Only bullies are too cowardly to use unnecessary force and militarism. The Greatness of America comes from its constitution, and the democratic ideals a model for the world. The military might is but a cap on the crown not to be misused for misadventures.
Posted by: Bill | July 7, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
“one of ther Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there.Sooner or later he is going to find out that Bush was right.”
If this guy was released ‘last year’, wouldn’t he have been released under Bush himself? So that makes Bush right? I don’t get it, Bush releases someone who becomes a leader of the Taliban and this somehow makes Bush right?
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Paraphrasing from “the news”, Obama says the leaders can agree but the people also have to agree. Doesn’t he know that the people have no say in Russia? And we’re having less of a say here too!
And if the people did have a say, do you think they would care about us? They’ve got more on their minds than a bunch of navel-gazing hand-wringers from the U.S.
“Obama’s address Tuesday to graduates of an elite Moscow university, part of a generation eager to see Russia’s power and influence restored, touched on Russians’ suffering in the post-Soviet world and painted a picture of a democratic future.”
“Democratic future”! What kind of communist talk is that!
one of their Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there Posted by: Frank | Jul 7, 2009 9:09:06 PM
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Probably had to release him because of all the pressure from the left-wing, navel-gazing, hand-wringing crybabies. If it was up to Bush, they’d all still be sitting in Gitmo. But of course, forces that know better than POTUS felt they were getting a raw deal.
Danita- you should credit Associated Press Writers DOUGLAS BIRCH and CATRINA STEWART. Even with quotation marks, posting without citing the source is plagarism.
If Bush released this man who turned into a Taliban leader he should be man enough to admit it and not blame it on somebody else. Posted by: danita | Jul 7, 2009 10:51:34 PM
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I don’t think Bush posts on this blog so I have no clue what you’re talking about. If you’re going to counter EVERYTHING I post, at least try to make sense.
If Bush released this man who turned into a Taliban leader he WOULD (hopefully) be man enough to admit it and not blame it on somebody else – like you did for him, Timmy.
Yes, I’m sure TOTUS gave a great speech. The point of most of my Russian visit posts is that the people of Russia don’t like us, they blame us for the economic collapse and an eloquent speech won’t matter in the long run. You get a thrill but their lives continue as is. Not surprisingly you ignore all those posts and pick the “meddling” one so you can portray me as you like.
I suggest you go listen to some of Reagan’s speeches including his “tear down this wall” speech.
And I would never be on your team. Ever.
If Bush released this man who turned into a Taliban leader he WOULD (hopefully) be man enough to admit it and not blame it on somebody else – like you did for him, Timmy. Posted by: danita | Jul 7, 2009 10:59:32 PM
You mean like how Obama took responsibility for his relationship with William Ayers and his spiritual mentor Reverend Wright? He’s thrown everyone under the bus including his grandmother. I’m sure you were in the front lines making excuses for him, danita.
Danita,
It is odd to hear him talk about ‘a democratic future’, when he is currently being held hostage to his Iranian policy by a corrupt regime that cares not a wit about ‘a democratic future’.
America held hostage….again.
Posted by: J House | July 7, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Timmy . ..
Couldn’t face up to it heh?
“one of ther Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there.Sooner or later he is going to find out that Bush was right.”
Posted by: Frank | Jul 7, 2009 9:09:06 PM
If this guy was released ‘last year’, wouldn’t he have been released under Bush himself? So that makes Bush right? I don’t get it, Bush releases someone who becomes a leader of the Taliban and this somehow makes Bush right?
“he is currently being held hostage to his Iranian policy by a corrupt regime”
Posted by: J House | Jul 7, 2009 11:14:26 PM
J House, President Obama is attempting to get international support against Iran (including the support of Russia) and negotiate Iran away from pursuing nuclear weapons so he doesn’t have to use the alternative of ‘bombing them back into the stone age’ which would kill many innocent civilians.
Having just seen the Bush administration and his neo-con think tankers kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, I think every tactic short of bombing them is worth pursuing.
J. House . . ..
If you were paying attention you also noticed President Obama in two separate addresses from Turkey and Egypt speak directly to the Islamic populations including those in Iran and speaking strongly for the common person, democracy and families, for acceptance and understanding – and against extremism and terrorism of all kinds.
It is a truly exceptional step.
The Russian economic students were less than impressed with Obama’s teleprompter speech. Even the Russians (and Europeans)have warning us that we’re spending too much money. It’s the road to self destruction.
from AP . . ..
“His words appeared to have a strong impact on the likely future leaders at the New Economic School.
“He speaks in such a way that he doesn’t hide the problems behind the words,” said Mikhail Filkin, a 20-something graduate of the school, founded in the early 1990s. “He was very persuasive.”
“Even the Russians (and Europeans)have warning us that we’re spending too much money.”
The war in Afghanistan bankrupted the Russians, just as George Bush’s war against Iraq drove the United States further and further into debt and bankrupted the country to China.
The global economic collapse was probably not because of this spending, but the collapse did happen during at the end of all the Bush spending – and it was worldwide.
Every country in the world is now wrestling with layoffs, unemployed people, factory closures, layoffs in the primary resource industries and so on.
The question becomes – can a society based on gross consumption be sustained or do we have to move to cleaner power, smarter use of resources and less greed, consumption and waste?
That’s wonderful advice coming from Russia – a country with their own mafia, black market for arms, drugs, women… Yes, we need to listen to them. They’re like totally enlightened and ethical.
More dribble from the land of the unicorns.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 1:13 am 1:13 am
“That’s wonderful advice coming from Russia – a country with their own mafia, black market for arms, drugs, women…”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2
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You got something against women Timmy?
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Obama reminds me of a slick used car salesmen trying to sell you a junker and telling you what a great car it is, the only folks he is convincing are the blind following Obamacrats and those that do not have a clue as how to make it on their own without government assistance.
Posted by: Talsimmons | July 8, 2009, 6:21 am 6:21 am
So this time the annointed one apologizes by agreeing to unilateral disarmament. You pretty much know if Obama is overseas he is doing something bad for America.
Posted by: TxBoB | July 8, 2009, 7:40 am 7:40 am
It’s interesting. Obama is once again following in Bush’s footsteps and relabeling it.
Posted by: drjohn | July 8, 2009, 7:43 am 7:43 am
TxBob, Obama was elected by the voters of the US in a fair election. He was not annointed. It was Bush in 2000 who was annointed, so to speak, by the Supreme Court.
Posted by: BachisBest | July 8, 2009, 8:07 am 8:07 am
There are a couple of aspects of the, um, “discussions” and “debates” in these comment areas for articles around the Internet that has become crystal clear, if disappointingly so. That is, some people — but not all, thank goodness, or I wouldn’t waste my time with tripe — on both sides of these questions aren’t the least bit interested in calm discussion and reasoned debate. Each has the Received Truth, in Holy Writ, and anyone who disagrees is an instrument of evil . . . and, in the Holder’s of the Received Truth vision, downright stupid. Another aspect that often borders on the astonishing is the many prejudices that arise. I know two Caucasian Americans who work abroad, and each is seeking citizenship in another country — and, if they succeed in that quest, each has said he plans to legally renounce his US citizenship. Why? Both are quite open about it, and though they don’t know each other, they share the reason: Neither can STAND the idea of a “X-” President. Other friends think Bush should be tried, convicted, and at the very least imprisoned for life, because they claim he did absolutely nothing good. What about his vastly increasing medical aid to Africa? That, at the very least, counts with most of us. I enjoy and learn from the thoughtful comments one can find, though it’s too bad to have to dig through diatribes to find them. “As they say, “My mind’s made UP! Don’t confuse me with the FACTS!” Sigh . . .
Posted by: Mekhong Kurt | July 8, 2009, 10:09 am 10:09 am
“That’s wonderful advice coming from Russia – a country with their own mafia, black market for arms, drugs, women…” Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 1:13:38 AM
You got something against women Timmy?
Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 2:49:34 AM
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Whatever your remark means, human trafficking is a serious problem and Russia is heavily involved. The sex slave trade is a horrendous affront to all women and is for the most part ignored by the enlightened liberals.
I would strongly suggest the the First Lady consider championing the fight against human trafficking if she can break a way from her world tour and her vegetable garden. Time’s a wasting. It’s been almost 6 months and she still has not taken up a cause. Seems that she would have had plenty of time to think about what to do being on a paid leave of absence and campaigning with her husband for 2 years before the Inauguration.
Anyway, if you have an actual response to my post about why we would follow the advice of Russia, I’d love to hear it.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am
The question becomes – can a society based on gross consumption be sustained or do we have to move to cleaner power, smarter use of resources and less greed, consumption and waste? Posted by: danita | Jul 7, 2009 11:56:48 PM
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Tampa Bay Times
July 08, 2009
Wind goes out of T. Boone Pickens’ Texas-size wind-farm plan
Two years ago onetime Texas oil baron T. Boone Pickens unveiled plans to build a 4,000-megawatt wind farm big enough to power 1.3 million homes. The projected cost: $10 billion. Last year he ordered 667 wind turbines for the farm. It was all part of his ambitious “Pickens Plan” to wean the nation from foreign oil.
Then the economic slump hit, and Pickens’ hedge funds lost billions of dollars. Still Pickens “spent a good six months insisting the effort would still move forward, albeit with significant delays,” Reuters notes.
Not anymore. Turns out building the wind farm was one thing, but hooking it up to the grid was another. Picken’s company, Mesa Power was “unable to borrow $2 billion for transmission lines to link the wind farm to the Texas grid,” the Washington Post reports.
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Bummer.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am
I hope T. Boone called Pelosi and told her not to quit her day job…
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 10:34 am 10:34 am
And, who did T. Boone Pickens buy the wind turbines from? No other than GE, The GE of NBC “green week”, MSNBC “our job is to help Obama succeed”, The Weather Channel “forecasts mixed with Global Warming propaganda” and more media and entertainment outlets.
The same GE who fervently backed the scurrilous “Cap and Trade” bill which will heavily tax average Americans and fill GE’s coffers.
I hope T. Boone looses his shirt on this “green” folly.
Posted by: danilo | July 8, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Posted by: danilo | Jul 8, 2009 10:56:29 AM
As always… follow the money.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am
danilo-
Don’t forget the GE with Jeffrey Immelt as CEO, the same Immelt who is on President Obama’s Economic Advisory Panel (though I’m unsure if that panel has ever met or anything).
Posted by: MayBee | July 8, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Don’t forget the GE with Jeffrey Immelt as CEO, the same Immelt who is on President Obama’s Economic Advisory Panel (though I’m unsure if that panel has ever met or anything). Posted by: MayBee | Jul 8, 2009 11:26:34 AM
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Oh sure they have.
Obama: So how’s the economy, Jeff?
Immelt: It stinks, Mr. President.
Obama: Alrighty then. Who wants ice cream!
I hope T. Boone looses his shirt on this “green” folly. Posted by: danilo | Jul 8, 2009 10:56:29 AM
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I think he’s already lost his shirt. It’s his pants he’s trying to hang onto!
If it gets any worse, Pelosi’s gonna have to cut down on botox.
Danita,
The President gave his speech in one of the most corrupt, autocratic regimes in the Mid-East…Egypt. While at the same time, he continues to prop it up with a yearly $3 billion bribe that has continued since the Carter admin.
exceptional? hardly.
Posted by: J House | July 8, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
The President gave his speech in one of the most corrupt, autocratic regimes in the Mid-East…Egypt. While at the same time, he continues to prop it up with a yearly $3 billion bribe that has continued since the Carter admin. Posted by: J House | Jul 8, 2009 12:14:56 PM
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Come on! It’s only been A FEW SHORT MONTHS! Timmy (the Tax Cheat) Geitner hasn’t had time to cancel the direct deposit yet. Obama is still exceptional AND enlightened.
Yes, President Obama’s speeches directly to the people of the Islamic world were exceptional even if you’re too full up of your own ideology to see it.
Reaching out directly to the people, the moderates, the families and speaking out against the extremists and the terrorists was brilliant. And so much more effective and helpful than Bush’s ‘us or them’ alienating idiocy.
Sad you’re unable to see it. Fortunately the United States is comprised of many thoughtful and decent people, and not a majority of ranting, bitter ideologues.
Reaching out directly to the people, the moderates, the families and speaking out against the extremists and the terrorists was brilliant. Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 12:41:46 PM
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Yes, and where are these religion of peace leaders who should be speaking out against extremists?
And what about these families and moderates? Oh that’s right, they are busy honor-killing their wives and children (in some cases right here in the good ol’ USA), killing their neighbor because he welched on a deal offering the 14 year old daughter for some goats and cash. Who exactly is Onama speaking to? Brilliant or listening to himself talk?
Do you think any of these people would care about Americans if we weren’t sending them billions in aid and buying their oil?
It’s a fool’s paradise in which you live. You can’t make people sing “we are the world” in case you haven’t figured that out yet.
“And what about these families and moderates? Oh that’s right, they are busy honor-killing their wives and children”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 1:32:51 PM
What a detailed understanding you have of contemporary Islamic culture Timmy.
That’s right all the normal families and moderates are busy killing their wives and children.
You really should educate yourself beyond your cliches.
Religious extremists are whack cases whether Islamic, Jewish or Christian. Guess what – you seem to fit into one of those slots.
President Obama’s speeches directly to the common people, the families and the moderates of the Islamic world was brilliant. They are not evil people Timmy. You need to deprogram yourself.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Iran and Syria want meetings with no preconditions. What a surprise. I was castigated for suggesting that BHO is a mental midget. It looks like the bad guys have been watching his first 6 mons like the Indians on the hillsides watched the Battle of the Little Bighorn. Custer was like BHO, young, good looking, aggressive, arrogant, short sighted and stupid leading his charges into disaster. Just remember as you are hiding under your bed like all the other cowardly liberal democraps when “the one’s” homeland security allows the bad guys in for a repeat of 9/11 that, President G. W. Bush that you insult so freely kept your cowardly butts safe for both of his terms in office
Posted by: consrv | July 8, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
BTW, danita, my comments concern Islam in the Middle East – not “contemporary Islam” in general. The original comment from J. House concerned Egypt and the Middle East, which you conveniently generalize to include the Muslim world so you could make your point. I only brought it back to the original intent. I doubt you’ll find much flexibility within those countries concerning human rights, especially with Muslim women.
They are not evil people Timmy. Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 1:40:37 PM
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They are indeed not evil people (your words, not mine). However, evil resides within all of us, danita. We are not inherintly good. Laws and justice keep us in check. When the scales are tilted in favor of men in a society, you end up with injustice – even in “normal” families. And I am reasonable sure that normal Islamic families are victims of abuse daily. Fathers, husbands, brothers are all doing bad things to the women of these countries. And it is not about religion. That’s the justification.
“President G. W. Bush that you insult so freely kept your cowardly butts safe for both of his terms in office”
Except for 9/11.
Ya know that thing that happened in his first term that killed 3000 Americans.
Also in his first term he decided to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 resulting is the international community backing away from cooperating with us on the war on terror and the deaths of 4000+ American soldiers and counting.
Hooray for cowardly idiocy!
Posted by: Ryan C | July 8, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
“Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 10:28:57 AM”
I stopped trusting T.Boone Pickens are the shenanigans he pulled here in CA with a ballot proposition.
It was a naked grab at money.
Basically the prop called for utilities in CA to achieve a very high percentage of renewal energy. Sounded sort of green in its wording and intentionally so. But the standard called for was absurd (like 40%)
If the utilities did not meet that standard the state would be required to purchase alternative power from out of state companies.
Guess who has wind farms out of state?
Posted by: Ryan C | July 8, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
“BTW, danita, my comments concern Islam in the Middle East – not “contemporary Islam” in general. The original comment from J. House concerned Egypt and the Middle East”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 2:12:31 PM
Timmy . . . my comments were originally -and continued to be – about President Obama’s two brilliant speeches to the people of the Islamic world, in which he communicated directly to the common people, families and moderates of Islam – and spoke strongly against the extremists and the terrorists.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Traffic Cop Timmy—our society has still not completely embraced the equality of women itself. so we shouldn’t cast stones at glass houses. also women throughout Muslim societies are treated differently. your post(s) imply there is a homogeneity throughout the Muslim world and that all women in the Muslim world are abused. you might want to do some anthropological research when making broad, seeping statements of others’ cultures. Muslim women in America, Iran, Palestine are all treated differently than women in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Paul Wall | July 8, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jul 8, 2009 3:43:43 PM
Thank you Paul. Agree with the glass house remark, which is why I’m trying to point out that we all have evil within us – we are not inherently good – and that is why we have laws and punishment.
Would you say that not all Islam’s problems in this area are due to “religious extremists” or “whack cases”? That in seemingly normal and peaceful Muslim families this goes on. That seems to me to be as much of a generalization as anything. I was awkwardly trying to point this out.
Back to the treaty.
Obama called the treaty a “legally binding agreement.” According to the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Senate would need to ratify the arms-control treaty to make it binding, legally or otherwise.
Why are we standing down to Russia on nuclear warheads and missiles at the same time Iran and North Korea are escalating their arms races? Back to Carter’s “hug it out” diplomacy…
Posted by: Danilo | July 8, 2009, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
I love the American right.
Attack everybody! Attack Iran! Attack Korea! Attack Russia! Attack the G-8! Attack the environment! Attack the unemployed! Attack those without healthcare! Attack EVERYBODY!
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
p.s. those are real bodies pal
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
p.s. those are real bodies pal Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 8:00:13 PM
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As opposed to all the innocent bodies left throughout history by the blessed leaders of untold numbers of tyrannical leaders you hold in such high esteem?
And the innocent bodies tortured and killed by Saddam and his sons and minions while the U.N. did nothing because they did not want to mess up their sweet deal doing business with Saddam?
And the innocent, defenseless bodies President Obama fights against because it is “above his pay grade?”
Those real bodies?
“the blessed leaders of untold numbers of tyrannical leaders you hold in such high esteem?”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 8:24:31 PM
oh yes, I have supported ‘untold numbers of tyrannical leaders’ in my life Timmy, just like you say.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
oh yes, I have supported ‘untold numbers of tyrannical leaders’ in my life Timmy, just like you say.
Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 9:11:24 PM
Glad we agree.
You did realise that didn’t you Timmy? That there is $288 BILLION in tax benefits in the Recovery and Reinvestment plan? That’s almost like – how shall i put this – REDUCING taxes isn’t it?
$288 BILLION in tax benefits in the Recovery plan.
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Posted by: pauldia | July 7, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
He canout reach everything he wants but the bottom line is “they don’t care” They know he is weak and easy to persuade. By the way check the news in Afghanistan, one of ther Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there.Sooner or later he is going to find out that Bush was right.You can’t cut loose those who want to hurt us period.
Posted by: Frank | July 7, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Frank and Pauldia,
Your macho stance without thought or due deliberation has cost this country almost 5000 lives in Iraq. Only bullies are too cowardly to use unnecessary force and militarism. The Greatness of America comes from its constitution, and the democratic ideals a model for the world. The military might is but a cap on the crown not to be misused for misadventures.
Posted by: Bill | July 7, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
“one of ther Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there.Sooner or later he is going to find out that Bush was right.”
If this guy was released ‘last year’, wouldn’t he have been released under Bush himself? So that makes Bush right? I don’t get it, Bush releases someone who becomes a leader of the Taliban and this somehow makes Bush right?
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Paraphrasing from “the news”, Obama says the leaders can agree but the people also have to agree. Doesn’t he know that the people have no say in Russia? And we’re having less of a say here too!
And if the people did have a say, do you think they would care about us? They’ve got more on their minds than a bunch of navel-gazing hand-wringers from the U.S.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 7, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
“Obama’s address Tuesday to graduates of an elite Moscow university, part of a generation eager to see Russia’s power and influence restored, touched on Russians’ suffering in the post-Soviet world and painted a picture of a democratic future.”
“Democratic future”! What kind of communist talk is that!
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Even in Michael Jackson’s death, Mr. Obama is still being political. Mr. Obama, please care more than your own family and political future.
Posted by: young_voter | July 7, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
“painted a picture of a democratic future”
Selective meddling again from the man with five faces.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 7, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
one of their Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there Posted by: Frank | Jul 7, 2009 9:09:06 PM
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Probably had to release him because of all the pressure from the left-wing, navel-gazing, hand-wringing crybabies. If it was up to Bush, they’d all still be sitting in Gitmo. But of course, forces that know better than POTUS felt they were getting a raw deal.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 7, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Timmy .. .
If Bush released this man who turned into a Taliban leader he should be man enough to admit it and not blame it on somebody else.
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Danita- you should credit Associated Press Writers DOUGLAS BIRCH and CATRINA STEWART. Even with quotation marks, posting without citing the source is plagarism.
Posted by: Danilo | July 7, 2009, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
If Bush released this man who turned into a Taliban leader he should be man enough to admit it and not blame it on somebody else. Posted by: danita | Jul 7, 2009 10:51:34 PM
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I don’t think Bush posts on this blog so I have no clue what you’re talking about. If you’re going to counter EVERYTHING I post, at least try to make sense.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 7, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
If Bush released this man who turned into a Taliban leader he WOULD (hopefully) be man enough to admit it and not blame it on somebody else – like you did for him, Timmy.
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Yes, I’m sure TOTUS gave a great speech. The point of most of my Russian visit posts is that the people of Russia don’t like us, they blame us for the economic collapse and an eloquent speech won’t matter in the long run. You get a thrill but their lives continue as is. Not surprisingly you ignore all those posts and pick the “meddling” one so you can portray me as you like.
I suggest you go listen to some of Reagan’s speeches including his “tear down this wall” speech.
And I would never be on your team. Ever.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 7, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
If Bush released this man who turned into a Taliban leader he WOULD (hopefully) be man enough to admit it and not blame it on somebody else – like you did for him, Timmy. Posted by: danita | Jul 7, 2009 10:59:32 PM
You mean like how Obama took responsibility for his relationship with William Ayers and his spiritual mentor Reverend Wright? He’s thrown everyone under the bus including his grandmother. I’m sure you were in the front lines making excuses for him, danita.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 7, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Danita,
It is odd to hear him talk about ‘a democratic future’, when he is currently being held hostage to his Iranian policy by a corrupt regime that cares not a wit about ‘a democratic future’.
America held hostage….again.
Posted by: J House | July 7, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Timmy . ..
Couldn’t face up to it heh?
“one of ther Guantanamo detainees released last year is the head leader of the Taliban fighting our guys there.Sooner or later he is going to find out that Bush was right.”
Posted by: Frank | Jul 7, 2009 9:09:06 PM
If this guy was released ‘last year’, wouldn’t he have been released under Bush himself? So that makes Bush right? I don’t get it, Bush releases someone who becomes a leader of the Taliban and this somehow makes Bush right?
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
“he is currently being held hostage to his Iranian policy by a corrupt regime”
Posted by: J House | Jul 7, 2009 11:14:26 PM
J House, President Obama is attempting to get international support against Iran (including the support of Russia) and negotiate Iran away from pursuing nuclear weapons so he doesn’t have to use the alternative of ‘bombing them back into the stone age’ which would kill many innocent civilians.
Having just seen the Bush administration and his neo-con think tankers kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, I think every tactic short of bombing them is worth pursuing.
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
my mistake . .. tens of thousands of Iraqis – many civilians – and thousands of our own.
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
J. House . . ..
If you were paying attention you also noticed President Obama in two separate addresses from Turkey and Egypt speak directly to the Islamic populations including those in Iran and speaking strongly for the common person, democracy and families, for acceptance and understanding – and against extremism and terrorism of all kinds.
It is a truly exceptional step.
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
The Russian economic students were less than impressed with Obama’s teleprompter speech. Even the Russians (and Europeans)have warning us that we’re spending too much money. It’s the road to self destruction.
Posted by: Denise | July 7, 2009, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
nah, I was just using one of your awesomely awesome techniques, danita
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 7, 2009, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
from AP . . ..
“His words appeared to have a strong impact on the likely future leaders at the New Economic School.
“He speaks in such a way that he doesn’t hide the problems behind the words,” said Mikhail Filkin, a 20-something graduate of the school, founded in the early 1990s. “He was very persuasive.”
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
“Even the Russians (and Europeans)have warning us that we’re spending too much money.”
The war in Afghanistan bankrupted the Russians, just as George Bush’s war against Iraq drove the United States further and further into debt and bankrupted the country to China.
The global economic collapse was probably not because of this spending, but the collapse did happen during at the end of all the Bush spending – and it was worldwide.
Every country in the world is now wrestling with layoffs, unemployed people, factory closures, layoffs in the primary resource industries and so on.
The question becomes – can a society based on gross consumption be sustained or do we have to move to cleaner power, smarter use of resources and less greed, consumption and waste?
Posted by: danita | July 7, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
That’s wonderful advice coming from Russia – a country with their own mafia, black market for arms, drugs, women… Yes, we need to listen to them. They’re like totally enlightened and ethical.
More dribble from the land of the unicorns.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 1:13 am 1:13 am
“That’s wonderful advice coming from Russia – a country with their own mafia, black market for arms, drugs, women…”
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You got something against women Timmy?
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Obama reminds me of a slick used car salesmen trying to sell you a junker and telling you what a great car it is, the only folks he is convincing are the blind following Obamacrats and those that do not have a clue as how to make it on their own without government assistance.
Posted by: Talsimmons | July 8, 2009, 6:21 am 6:21 am
So this time the annointed one apologizes by agreeing to unilateral disarmament. You pretty much know if Obama is overseas he is doing something bad for America.
Posted by: TxBoB | July 8, 2009, 7:40 am 7:40 am
It’s interesting. Obama is once again following in Bush’s footsteps and relabeling it.
Posted by: drjohn | July 8, 2009, 7:43 am 7:43 am
TxBob, Obama was elected by the voters of the US in a fair election. He was not annointed. It was Bush in 2000 who was annointed, so to speak, by the Supreme Court.
Posted by: BachisBest | July 8, 2009, 8:07 am 8:07 am
There are a couple of aspects of the, um, “discussions” and “debates” in these comment areas for articles around the Internet that has become crystal clear, if disappointingly so. That is, some people — but not all, thank goodness, or I wouldn’t waste my time with tripe — on both sides of these questions aren’t the least bit interested in calm discussion and reasoned debate. Each has the Received Truth, in Holy Writ, and anyone who disagrees is an instrument of evil . . . and, in the Holder’s of the Received Truth vision, downright stupid. Another aspect that often borders on the astonishing is the many prejudices that arise. I know two Caucasian Americans who work abroad, and each is seeking citizenship in another country — and, if they succeed in that quest, each has said he plans to legally renounce his US citizenship. Why? Both are quite open about it, and though they don’t know each other, they share the reason: Neither can STAND the idea of a “X-” President. Other friends think Bush should be tried, convicted, and at the very least imprisoned for life, because they claim he did absolutely nothing good. What about his vastly increasing medical aid to Africa? That, at the very least, counts with most of us. I enjoy and learn from the thoughtful comments one can find, though it’s too bad to have to dig through diatribes to find them. “As they say, “My mind’s made UP! Don’t confuse me with the FACTS!” Sigh . . .
Posted by: Mekhong Kurt | July 8, 2009, 10:09 am 10:09 am
“That’s wonderful advice coming from Russia – a country with their own mafia, black market for arms, drugs, women…” Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 1:13:38 AM
You got something against women Timmy?
Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 2:49:34 AM
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Whatever your remark means, human trafficking is a serious problem and Russia is heavily involved. The sex slave trade is a horrendous affront to all women and is for the most part ignored by the enlightened liberals.
I would strongly suggest the the First Lady consider championing the fight against human trafficking if she can break a way from her world tour and her vegetable garden. Time’s a wasting. It’s been almost 6 months and she still has not taken up a cause. Seems that she would have had plenty of time to think about what to do being on a paid leave of absence and campaigning with her husband for 2 years before the Inauguration.
Anyway, if you have an actual response to my post about why we would follow the advice of Russia, I’d love to hear it.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am
The question becomes – can a society based on gross consumption be sustained or do we have to move to cleaner power, smarter use of resources and less greed, consumption and waste? Posted by: danita | Jul 7, 2009 11:56:48 PM
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Tampa Bay Times
July 08, 2009
Wind goes out of T. Boone Pickens’ Texas-size wind-farm plan
Two years ago onetime Texas oil baron T. Boone Pickens unveiled plans to build a 4,000-megawatt wind farm big enough to power 1.3 million homes. The projected cost: $10 billion. Last year he ordered 667 wind turbines for the farm. It was all part of his ambitious “Pickens Plan” to wean the nation from foreign oil.
Then the economic slump hit, and Pickens’ hedge funds lost billions of dollars. Still Pickens “spent a good six months insisting the effort would still move forward, albeit with significant delays,” Reuters notes.
Not anymore. Turns out building the wind farm was one thing, but hooking it up to the grid was another. Picken’s company, Mesa Power was “unable to borrow $2 billion for transmission lines to link the wind farm to the Texas grid,” the Washington Post reports.
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Bummer.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am
I hope T. Boone called Pelosi and told her not to quit her day job…
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 10:34 am 10:34 am
And, who did T. Boone Pickens buy the wind turbines from? No other than GE, The GE of NBC “green week”, MSNBC “our job is to help Obama succeed”, The Weather Channel “forecasts mixed with Global Warming propaganda” and more media and entertainment outlets.
The same GE who fervently backed the scurrilous “Cap and Trade” bill which will heavily tax average Americans and fill GE’s coffers.
I hope T. Boone looses his shirt on this “green” folly.
Posted by: danilo | July 8, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Posted by: danilo | Jul 8, 2009 10:56:29 AM
As always… follow the money.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am
danilo-
Don’t forget the GE with Jeffrey Immelt as CEO, the same Immelt who is on President Obama’s Economic Advisory Panel (though I’m unsure if that panel has ever met or anything).
Posted by: MayBee | July 8, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Don’t forget the GE with Jeffrey Immelt as CEO, the same Immelt who is on President Obama’s Economic Advisory Panel (though I’m unsure if that panel has ever met or anything). Posted by: MayBee | Jul 8, 2009 11:26:34 AM
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Oh sure they have.
Obama: So how’s the economy, Jeff?
Immelt: It stinks, Mr. President.
Obama: Alrighty then. Who wants ice cream!
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
I hope T. Boone looses his shirt on this “green” folly. Posted by: danilo | Jul 8, 2009 10:56:29 AM
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I think he’s already lost his shirt. It’s his pants he’s trying to hang onto!
If it gets any worse, Pelosi’s gonna have to cut down on botox.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Danita,
The President gave his speech in one of the most corrupt, autocratic regimes in the Mid-East…Egypt. While at the same time, he continues to prop it up with a yearly $3 billion bribe that has continued since the Carter admin.
exceptional? hardly.
Posted by: J House | July 8, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
The President gave his speech in one of the most corrupt, autocratic regimes in the Mid-East…Egypt. While at the same time, he continues to prop it up with a yearly $3 billion bribe that has continued since the Carter admin. Posted by: J House | Jul 8, 2009 12:14:56 PM
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Come on! It’s only been A FEW SHORT MONTHS! Timmy (the Tax Cheat) Geitner hasn’t had time to cancel the direct deposit yet. Obama is still exceptional AND enlightened.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Yes, President Obama’s speeches directly to the people of the Islamic world were exceptional even if you’re too full up of your own ideology to see it.
Reaching out directly to the people, the moderates, the families and speaking out against the extremists and the terrorists was brilliant. And so much more effective and helpful than Bush’s ‘us or them’ alienating idiocy.
Sad you’re unable to see it. Fortunately the United States is comprised of many thoughtful and decent people, and not a majority of ranting, bitter ideologues.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Reaching out directly to the people, the moderates, the families and speaking out against the extremists and the terrorists was brilliant. Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 12:41:46 PM
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Yes, and where are these religion of peace leaders who should be speaking out against extremists?
And what about these families and moderates? Oh that’s right, they are busy honor-killing their wives and children (in some cases right here in the good ol’ USA), killing their neighbor because he welched on a deal offering the 14 year old daughter for some goats and cash. Who exactly is Onama speaking to? Brilliant or listening to himself talk?
Do you think any of these people would care about Americans if we weren’t sending them billions in aid and buying their oil?
It’s a fool’s paradise in which you live. You can’t make people sing “we are the world” in case you haven’t figured that out yet.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
“And what about these families and moderates? Oh that’s right, they are busy honor-killing their wives and children”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 1:32:51 PM
What a detailed understanding you have of contemporary Islamic culture Timmy.
That’s right all the normal families and moderates are busy killing their wives and children.
You really should educate yourself beyond your cliches.
Religious extremists are whack cases whether Islamic, Jewish or Christian. Guess what – you seem to fit into one of those slots.
President Obama’s speeches directly to the common people, the families and the moderates of the Islamic world was brilliant. They are not evil people Timmy. You need to deprogram yourself.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Iran and Syria want meetings with no preconditions. What a surprise. I was castigated for suggesting that BHO is a mental midget. It looks like the bad guys have been watching his first 6 mons like the Indians on the hillsides watched the Battle of the Little Bighorn. Custer was like BHO, young, good looking, aggressive, arrogant, short sighted and stupid leading his charges into disaster. Just remember as you are hiding under your bed like all the other cowardly liberal democraps when “the one’s” homeland security allows the bad guys in for a repeat of 9/11 that, President G. W. Bush that you insult so freely kept your cowardly butts safe for both of his terms in office
Posted by: consrv | July 8, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
BTW, danita, my comments concern Islam in the Middle East – not “contemporary Islam” in general. The original comment from J. House concerned Egypt and the Middle East, which you conveniently generalize to include the Muslim world so you could make your point. I only brought it back to the original intent. I doubt you’ll find much flexibility within those countries concerning human rights, especially with Muslim women.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
They are not evil people Timmy. Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 1:40:37 PM
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They are indeed not evil people (your words, not mine). However, evil resides within all of us, danita. We are not inherintly good. Laws and justice keep us in check. When the scales are tilted in favor of men in a society, you end up with injustice – even in “normal” families. And I am reasonable sure that normal Islamic families are victims of abuse daily. Fathers, husbands, brothers are all doing bad things to the women of these countries. And it is not about religion. That’s the justification.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
“President G. W. Bush that you insult so freely kept your cowardly butts safe for both of his terms in office”
Except for 9/11.
Ya know that thing that happened in his first term that killed 3000 Americans.
Also in his first term he decided to invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 resulting is the international community backing away from cooperating with us on the war on terror and the deaths of 4000+ American soldiers and counting.
Hooray for cowardly idiocy!
Posted by: Ryan C | July 8, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
“Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 10:28:57 AM”
I stopped trusting T.Boone Pickens are the shenanigans he pulled here in CA with a ballot proposition.
It was a naked grab at money.
Basically the prop called for utilities in CA to achieve a very high percentage of renewal energy. Sounded sort of green in its wording and intentionally so. But the standard called for was absurd (like 40%)
If the utilities did not meet that standard the state would be required to purchase alternative power from out of state companies.
Guess who has wind farms out of state?
Posted by: Ryan C | July 8, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
“BTW, danita, my comments concern Islam in the Middle East – not “contemporary Islam” in general. The original comment from J. House concerned Egypt and the Middle East”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 2:12:31 PM
Timmy . . . my comments were originally -and continued to be – about President Obama’s two brilliant speeches to the people of the Islamic world, in which he communicated directly to the common people, families and moderates of Islam – and spoke strongly against the extremists and the terrorists.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Traffic Cop Timmy—our society has still not completely embraced the equality of women itself. so we shouldn’t cast stones at glass houses. also women throughout Muslim societies are treated differently. your post(s) imply there is a homogeneity throughout the Muslim world and that all women in the Muslim world are abused. you might want to do some anthropological research when making broad, seeping statements of others’ cultures. Muslim women in America, Iran, Palestine are all treated differently than women in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Paul Wall | July 8, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jul 8, 2009 3:43:43 PM
Thank you Paul. Agree with the glass house remark, which is why I’m trying to point out that we all have evil within us – we are not inherently good – and that is why we have laws and punishment.
Would you say that not all Islam’s problems in this area are due to “religious extremists” or “whack cases”? That in seemingly normal and peaceful Muslim families this goes on. That seems to me to be as much of a generalization as anything. I was awkwardly trying to point this out.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Back to the treaty.
Obama called the treaty a “legally binding agreement.” According to the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Senate would need to ratify the arms-control treaty to make it binding, legally or otherwise.
Why are we standing down to Russia on nuclear warheads and missiles at the same time Iran and North Korea are escalating their arms races? Back to Carter’s “hug it out” diplomacy…
Posted by: Danilo | July 8, 2009, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
I love the American right.
Attack everybody! Attack Iran! Attack Korea! Attack Russia! Attack the G-8! Attack the environment! Attack the unemployed! Attack those without healthcare! Attack EVERYBODY!
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
p.s. those are real bodies pal
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
p.s. those are real bodies pal Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 8:00:13 PM
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As opposed to all the innocent bodies left throughout history by the blessed leaders of untold numbers of tyrannical leaders you hold in such high esteem?
And the innocent bodies tortured and killed by Saddam and his sons and minions while the U.N. did nothing because they did not want to mess up their sweet deal doing business with Saddam?
And the innocent, defenseless bodies President Obama fights against because it is “above his pay grade?”
Those real bodies?
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
“the blessed leaders of untold numbers of tyrannical leaders you hold in such high esteem?”
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | Jul 8, 2009 8:24:31 PM
oh yes, I have supported ‘untold numbers of tyrannical leaders’ in my life Timmy, just like you say.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
oh yes, I have supported ‘untold numbers of tyrannical leaders’ in my life Timmy, just like you say.
Posted by: danita | Jul 8, 2009 9:11:24 PM
Glad we agree.
Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 8, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
You did realise that didn’t you Timmy? That there is $288 BILLION in tax benefits in the Recovery and Reinvestment plan? That’s almost like – how shall i put this – REDUCING taxes isn’t it?
$288 BILLION in tax benefits in the Recovery plan.
Posted by: danita | July 8, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm