There’s a Tear in My Beer

PLEASE, Sgt Crowley – don’t go until you have an official apology from Uncle Barry. I hope you realize you’re only going to get used as a photo-op and nothing else.
Release the video and the 911 tapes – we’ll see who’s the racist (Big O and Gates).

Doesn’t Gates have another Harvard paid junket to go on?

Terry,
It is time to Move On. The Professor himself said so. We must heed the advice of such a learned and accomplished man.

“I’d hope they’d arrest me if I refused to prove ownership of a home I was breaking into. It’s that simple.”
Oddly enough, Gates doesn’t own the home. Harvard does.

Conservatives will surely accuse the president of encouraging public drunkenness by inviting these two to share a beer at the White House…

I’m with Tim the traffic cop…..
“Where are those shovel ready / leaning jobs now that the summer is almost over?
Lies, Lies and most important….more Lies!!

Jake, any word on “the release in the coming days” from your 7/20/09 question to Gibbs?
TAPPER: OK. And then, if I could just ask one other question, on April 20th — I know you remember when the president said that he’d asked all the Cabinet secretaries to identify at least $100 million in additional cuts to their administrative budgets, separate and apart from the work Orszag and the rest of the team did. And they were required to report back with their savings at the end of 90 days. So that was 91 days ago, and I’m wondering if you guys have any list of the spending cuts.
GIBBS: The — those are being reviewed now, and we’ll release something in the coming days.
TAPPER: OK, thank you.

“The man was (if you believe the police description) upset and yelling. The police officer invited the man to step outside if he wanted to continue the exchange. The man stepped outside and then the police officer then arrested the man.”
The other cops on the scene and photos corroborate Crowley. Gates now wants to Move On. I guess we’ll have to wait to hear him speak Truth to Power. Or something…

Posted by: danita | Jul 27, 2009 1:31:33 PM
Tell it to the judge. It is Mass. law. Don’t like it? Write your Congressman.

I vote with the officer on the choice of beers– Blue Moon rules. And I applaud the WH for not stocking foreign beers, although my children (adult) were disappointed. Guess they figure they’ll be showing up at some White House function soon and are bummed to learn they won’t be treated to Beck’s.

–Yelling at a police officer is not illegal in Mass. The man was arrested for something that is not illegal.–
You might want to do a bit of research. That would require you spending your time somewhere other than here, so I’m not expecting much. But still, I’m hopeful…Maybe someone else at the DNC/ACORN office can help.

“You might want to do a bit of research. That would require you spending your time somewhere other than here, so I’m not expecting much.”
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Done lots of research on it, and yelling at a police officer is not illegal in Mass.
When the officer invited this yelling and upset man to come outside his home, and the man continued yelling – the man was doing nothing illegal.
That’s why charges were dropped. Nothing illegal had taken place.

“Gates may not have broken the law but, can we at least all agree that Henry Louis Gates is an arrogant elitist?”
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You think you can judge and condemn the man with the little bit of media information you have? We need you on a jury.

I cant wait to hear these 911 and officer tapes, and then watch Obama have to go before those cameras and microphones and APPOLOGIZE!
He should have done it on Friday, but instead he had to try to drop his @ss right on that fence. Trying to make it look like both sides over-reacted.
He has seen fit to appologize over & over to the world for 300 million of us for our country’s so-called past sins. I would have thought a simple one-on-one appology to a man with record and background such as this officer’s would have been easy for a former community organizer!

Gates and OB are piggy backing off this incident to frame it as a racial incident. If Sgt. Crowley accepts the assumption upon which this little meeting is to take place, that’s an injustice to good police officers everywhere. We have just made their jobs harder. Now, some minorities will have an automatic out if they want to get out of a ticket, or have a dispute with a cop. Throw out the “historical wrongs” card, and you’re homefree.
Can women pull that shtick, too? We’ve been playing second fiddle since the beginning of time, after all. You want to talk oppression…
It will be a symbolic acceptance that no matter how fair-minded, no matter how far you bend over backwards to show racial sensitivity, you can always be accused of racism, and there’s nothing you can do about it if you are white.
For African Americans still in the chains of “historical wrongs”, that might be satisfying turn-about-fair play, but the resulting bitter polarization will be Obama’s legacy. What a shame.
As a biracial citizen interested in moving forward, the only apologizing should be from Gates/Obama to Sgt. Crowley. Gibbs and Axelrod keep saying they want to “move forward”, here’s a way to do it.
Then, since this is now crony Chicago politics, make Sgt. Crowley chief of Homeland Security as a reward for pulling their nuts out of the fire.
This whole thing has been a major injustice to Crowley, and a regressive and destructive move on Obama’s part.

Mike_C . .
I don’t know where you got your idea of justice, but a police report is not by any means considered all of the evidence.
You have jumped the gun and condemned the man without all of the evidence being in . .. I’m surprised you do not have a better sense of justice.
It seems to me it is YOUR agenda to discredit people before all the facts are in . . . you are the one prejudging.

“Done lots of research on it, and yelling at a police officer is not illegal in Mass. When the officer invited this yelling and upset man to come outside his home, and the man continued yelling – the man was doing nothing illegal. That’s why charges were dropped. Nothing illegal had taken place
Posted by: danita | Jul 27, 2009 2:03:51 PM
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OK Danita, lets say we met and had a couple beers together to forget our differences.
We then went walking down the street where President Obama’s motorcade is coming in 3 minutes.
The officer tells us to stop. He doesn’t even explain why. We’re feeling good so we tell him its a public sidewalk, so blank off.
One more time, stop, or I will detain you. Its for your own safety and public security
“Forget you” we say.
He then does something strange and talks into his coat lapel, 15 seconds later we’re on the ground.
I have no doubt the police and Secret Service will find us harmless and let us go.
But just where do get off saying that a policeman cannot arrest someone making a nuisance of himself and getting in the way of his duty.

robetb . ..
You do not judge a man on hypothetical situations, you judge a man on ALL the FACTS of the case.
And you don’t judge or condemn a man until all those facts are in and have been presented fairly.
Why does the right so easily abandon proper justice for citizens and condemn this man? Take a wild guess.

Why does the right so easily abandon proper justice for citizens and condemn this man? Take a wild guess
Posted by: danita | Jul 27, 2009 3:41:45 PM
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Part 1
My driver and I carried several bags up to the porch, and we fiddled with the door and it was jammed. .. So I walked back to the kitchen porch, unlocked the door and came into the house. And I unlatched the door, but it was still jammed.
( He had another WAY to get in!! How badly did they FIDDLE with it and how LONG before Gates remembered he MUST have gone out the other door and left the FRONT door latched. Did THEY break it or what? We’ll never know)
My driver is a large black man. But from afar you and I would not have seen he was black. (As the 9/11 call points out, initial call did not indicate race)
He has black hair and was dressed in a two-piece black suit, and I was dressed in a navy blue blazer with gray trousers and, you know, my shoes.
(What is this fashion report?)
And I love that the 911 report said that two big black men were trying to break in with backpacks on. Now that is the worst racial profiling I’ve ever heard of in my life. (Laughs.) I’m not exactly a big black man. I thought that was hilarious when I found that out…
(He was told then an incorrect tale of the 9/11 report. And who is doing this nonexistent profiling – not the police but a citizen briefly trying to relate a possible crime in progress)
It looked like someone’s footprint was there. So it’s possible that the door had been jimmied, that someone had tried to get in while I was in China. But for whatever reason, the lock was damaged. My driver hit the door with his shoulder and the door popped open. But the lock was permanently disfigured.
(So maybe there was a previous attempted breakin, but some of the evidence was destroyed by HIS incompetence)
My home is owned by Harvard University, and so any kind of repair work that’s needed, Harvard will come and do it. I called this person, and she was, in fact, on the line while all of this was going on. (So whether HE and his driver broke it or not, our fearless professor is going to get someone ELSE to take care of it)

Mike_C . ..
I’m not at all convinced at this point the President did make a mistake in saying what he did. I am withholding judgement on that till I have more of the facts.
We HAVE been told a couple of things FROM THE POLICE REPORT only.
The man was in his own home, provided ID, was upset and yelling, was invited to step outside by the policeman and was then arrested for yelling outside.
From what we’ve now been told about Mass. law, there is nothing illegal in what the man did – so his arrest for doing nothing illegal might well be considered ‘stupid’. Which is what the President called it.
We might learn more about this situation which might tip it one way or the other.
The President then moved into a GENERAL statement about racial profiling – which certainly has been an issue in the U.S. and one that the President chose to highlight. Was he right in highlighting this issue? Perhaps. It certainly has provoked a lot of talk about racial profiling and placed the issue squarely on the agenda. If that was his desire, it seems to have been effective.
As far as the overall impact of this incident, time will tell.

I think the officer was insulted, had a big ego, thought he KNEW IT ALL about race since chosen to teach about it to other officers. Yes, he was showing an old black guy up as well as a man clearly richer and better educated than himself ala the TOWN GOWN Harvard jealousy. He popped his cork and played the system against Gates in order to take him down a peg.
It was HUGE HUGE HUGE racism.
The fact that it cannot be admitted and seen by so many who are in the nattering media groups is creepy.
I am a 62 year old white woman in Washington State who worked in criminal justice and graduated from a criminal justice academy. I have seen many of the Crowley’s of this world work the system to their personal advantage against citizens. Now we see the “poor me pout and wrinkled brow” of Crowley in media photos. The media backfired the whole situation in his face. He never thought of that one! He will always be remembered by thousands for his racism even after Obama smoothes this over. And that is the way it should be. This is racism exposed…deep and shameful and flagrant in the police departments of this land and the cocky cowboys who run them. Of course they dropped the charges, of course there will be no “investigation” of the officer. But this time, in spite of the unions, friends of Crowley and a beer in the White House, Crowley will always be remembered for exactly who he is-a cocky cop showing up an old black guy who is richer & better educated when he did not need to but because his big ego needed another boost.
Amanda

New Rules…Descriptions of possible offenders will now be known as “bi-pedal” species but not before ascertaining weather subject is plant…animal…mineral….

Could we possibly, please hear from people who actually know something about this incident? Like for example a few eyewitnesses? Since it is now clearly established that the woman who reported the possible break-in did not even say the men were Black, there is clearly no racial element there. Was Gates really obstreperous to the point of creating a disturbance? Who knows, nobody seems to have any facts. Facts please. Facts please.

Why are you blaming Gates? He’s not the one who made up stuff for the police report. Crowley did that and the police recording released today prove it. Gates committed no crime and officer Crowley should be fired or suspended and retrained.