By Gorman Gorman

Jul 29, 2009 3:39pm

Two Gitmo Detainees Headed to Ireland

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs announced this morning that Ireland today announced it will accept two Uzbek  detainees transferred from Guantanamo Bay.

“I know they wanted to be helpful, and we appreciate their willingness and ability to do that,” Gibbs said of the offer from the Irish government. “These were detainees that were ruled to be able to be transferred without further detention.”

The two detainees will be transferred in the next couple months.

Irish justice minister Dermot Ahern said in a statement that “In making this decision I am conscious of the intention of the United States to close the center at Guantánamo Bay, in part by transferring detainees, no longer regarded as posing a threat to security but who cannot return to their own countries, to other countries willing to accept them.”

Ahern said his government would “adhere to the norms of official procedure in respecting the rights of the two men to their privacy,”

Though neither the US nor Irish authorities would specific as to which Uzbek detainees headed to Ireland, one is thought to be Oybek Jamoldinivich Jabbarov, whose imprisonment was, according to his attorney “a tragic case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

At the time of his detention by US forces in 2001, Jabbarov, now 31, lived with his pregnant wife, infant son, and mother lived with other Uzbek refugees in northern Afghanistan in 2001 when fighting broke out between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance. 

“Oybek was not captured on the battlefield, nor was he armed,” his attorney Michael Mone testified before Congress in May 2008. “Instead, he accepted a ride from a group of Northern Alliance soldiers he met at a roadside teahouse who said they would give him a ride to Mazar-e-Sharif.  Unfortunately, instead of driving him to Mazar-e-Sharif, the soldiers took Oybek to Bagram Air Base where they handed him over to U.S. forces, undoubtedly in exchange for a sizable bounty.  In a desperately poor, war-torn country, Oybek was an easy mark for soldiers responding to leaflets dropped throughout Afghanistan by the U.S. military offering thousands of dollars in cash rewards to anyone who turned over a Taliban or foreign fighter.”

Before the Combatant Status Review Board, Jabbarov was accused of having “supported the Taliban and al Qaida.” The US government claimed that Jabbarov “admitted that he was a member of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan,” which appears in the United States Department of Homeland Security 'Terrorist Organization Reference Guide,’ and having attended IMU training camps. The government said he “stayed in a safe house owned by the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group,” which also appears on the 'Terrorist Organization Reference Guide,” and “reportedly is used by al Qaida to obtain travel documents.”

“These allegations are not true,” Jabbarov said before the US tribunal. “I served in the national army of Uzbekistan; and I’ve been fighting against the IMU and these Islamic terrorist organizations. I agree that the IMU is a terrorist organization, but I have nothing to do with them. As a soldier in Uzbekistan, I have been fighting against these groups. I took the oath, and I swear it, that I will fight these groups, as a soldier, I took the oath.”

He denied having attended an IMU terrorist camp, having stayed in a safe house owned by the LIFG, never having heard of the LIFG before coming to Guantanamo, or ever even having seen any Arabs before he was brought to Guantanamo. He said he was only in Afghanistan to buy and sell livestock to support his family.

The government asserted that he “made a conscious decision to fight with the Taliban.”

“That’s not true,” Jabbarov said. “I never made that decision. I never supported the Taliban and I’m against their laws and rules.”

The government asserted that he “participated in fighting between the Taliban and the Northern Alliance.”

“So far I haven’t seen any war,” he said. “I never picked up or touched a gun.”

He asked of the woman reading the list of accusations: “where did she get all this information” Does she have any proof?.At least if one of these had evidence, if it was true, people could read.”

-jpt

User Comments

Perhaps they can stay in Chris Dodd’s primary residence.

Posted by: drjohn | July 29, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

It is an embarassment that the US Congress is too cowardly to allow the handful of pretty clearly innocent and harmless men stranded in Gitmo to be allowed to settle on our soil. Our mistake took their freedom from them and in some cases put them in the crosshairs of regimes we don’t much support either, it should be our duty to make it right. And before the right wing goes ranting off on a tangent, I’m only talking about the small handful that everyone agrees are not Al Quaida (including Bush era officials) and yes, I would be fine with them moving into my neighborhood.

Posted by: jhw539 | July 29, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Darnit! I was going to Ireland for my 50th birthday! Exactly when are these “detainees” heading to the Emerald Isle?

Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | July 29, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

What are their names?

Posted by: drjohn | July 29, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

>>The US government claimed that Jabbarov “admitted that he was a member of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan,”<<
Innocent, my arse.

Posted by: Ronnie Van Zant | July 29, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Whatever works, and thanks to those willing to help solve the problem.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | July 29, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock….

Posted by: tjp612 | July 29, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Ahhh…the luck of the Irish!
And how soon will they have them on a plane back to their home country?

Posted by: sally j | July 29, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Wait until PRC military intelligence grabs these guys. They’ll be skinned alive.

Posted by: Chang | July 29, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

>>The US government claimed that Jabbarov “admitted that he was a member of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan,”<<
Innocent, my arse.
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How could he possibly be innocent – he's a foreigner. We judge them sight unseen.

Posted by: danita | July 29, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

“How could he possibly be innocent – he’s a foreigner. We judge them sight unseen.”
You need to read comment threads from the beginning, you know…

Posted by: He Admitted It... | July 29, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Posted by: danita | Jul 29, 2009 7:09:18 PM
I’m not sure how your comment makes any kind of sense.

Posted by: B3 | July 29, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

“I served in the national army of Uzbekistan; and I’ve been fighting against the IMU and these Islamic terrorist organizations.”
“I never picked up or touched a gun.”
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No soup for you! One year!

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 29, 2009, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Ed . . .
Ireland just isn’t as smart as you, and they surely haven’t done as much research on these two individuals as you have. You would surely know better.

Posted by: danita | July 29, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

@jhw530, its worse than you think. How about the Saudi guys who tried to assassinate Bin Laden, were captured by the Taliban, and then ended up detained endlessly by the US? They should have been treated as international heroes!

Posted by: Flash Override | July 29, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

Wow. Some unbelievable comments. The only good thing I can say is that “hoping for the best” has always been what keeps humankind going. There’s no end to the hoping, wishing, and “positive thoughts” we can all talk ourselves into to make even the worst thing seem okay.
The people in GITMO were not innocent. If you have no problem with them moving into their neighborhood, golly, why not offer them a job babysitting your kids? They’re innocent, right?
Good thing ya’ll aren’t in charge of keeping us safe.
Look, there are varying degrees of guilt, and I do believe for example, that the Uighurs sent to Bermuda have a good 70% chance of avoiding trouble. But let’s not start rewriting history to make ourselves feel better because we’ve boxed ourselves into a corner on GITMO policy.
These were guilty people, which three years ago Democrats and Republicans alike told us were the “worst of the worst”. Suddenly, they’re all innocent goat herders who were only out for shish-ka-bobs and a late movie.
Honest, I don’t know how I got into that Tora Bora terrorist training camp that you need GPS, six pack mules and three weeks to get to. Just woke up, and there I was! Send me to Bermuda!
And meanwhile, the bad guys are our own leadership, the U.S. military killing themselves to keep your worthless carcass safe, and the guards who have to accept personal risk now so libs can feel noble. Nuts.
It’ll be a miracle if America survives.

Posted by: mj | July 30, 2009, 8:23 am 8:23 am

“It is an embarassment that the US Congress is too cowardly to allow the handful of pretty clearly innocent and harmless men stranded in Gitmo to be allowed to settle on our soil.”
What do you mean when you say “pretty clearly innocent and harmless’? How can you make such a judgment without seeing all the evidence or having the case files? Did you say that about others that were released previously and who came back to fight against us again?

Posted by: Sigmonde | July 30, 2009, 8:32 am 8:32 am

“At the time of his detention by US forces in 2001, Jabbarov, now 31, lived with his pregnant wife, infant son, and mother lived with other Uzbek refugees in northern Afghanistan in 2001…”
What does this mean? There were no refugees from Uzbekistan in northern Afghanistan in 2001.

Posted by: JDO | July 30, 2009, 8:42 am 8:42 am

“Ireland just isn’t as smart as you, and they surely haven’t done as much research on these two individuals as you have. You would surely know better.”
Yeah, I bet the Irish gov’t is doing it out of the kindness of their heart…$$$. Why can’t they sleep on your couch? I can’t think of a better way of educating all the horrible people around here about the true spirit of charity.

Posted by: Harping Bard | July 30, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am

“Ireland just isn’t as smart as you, and they surely haven’t done as much research on these two individuals as you have. You would surely know better.”
Yeah, I bet the Irish gov’t is doing it out of the kindness of their heart…$$$. Why can’t they sleep on your couch? I can’t think of a better way of educating all the horrible people around here about the true spirit of charity.

Posted by: Harping Bard | July 30, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am

In the Age of Obama, all we have are our hopes and prayers. So lets hope this works out ok for Ireland, bless their hearts.

Posted by: pbeez | July 30, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am

If the Irish put these guys in the care of the Irish Catholic Church’s Foster Care System, these guys would probably be better off at Gitmo.

Posted by: Sammy | July 30, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

What do you mean when you say “pretty clearly innocent and harmless’? How can you make such a judgment without seeing all the evidence or having the case files?
Posted by: Sigmonde | Jul 30, 2009 8:32:55 AM
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It’s pretty easy actually. You just access the Internet, go to a blog and type it in. It then becomes reality and others can refer to it as proof.
If you’re really ambitious, you can browse a view internet pages and find some “expert” who has also never seen the evidence or case files. There’s really no need to see the evidence because it’s all Bush/Cheney’s fault anyway. Facts just cloud the issue.

Posted by: Traffic Cop Timmy | July 30, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

“Facts just cloud the issue.”
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The King of ‘facts’ has spoken.

Posted by: danita | July 30, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

I am an Uncle of Michael who spent over three years to gain the release of this poor man who was declared years ago a non-combatant by the Bush (Cheney) regime. I am also a lawyer and Purple Heart and Bronze Star veteran of Vietnam who despises both war and the abrogation of due process by the Bush Administration. This effort make lawyers who do pro bono hold their heads higher.

Posted by: Peter Mone | July 30, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

two poor uzbeks are products of the Karimov feudal regime in uzbekistan

Posted by: Fred | August 7, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am

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