ABC News Exclusive: National Security Adviser Says President Obama Is Having Greater Success Taking Terrorists Out of Commission Than Bush Did

Perhaps if Gen. Jones were not a member of this adminstration, his statements would have more impact…

This is why the liberals have it all wrong. They are fed this propaganda and believe it just as if it were true. Obama is nothing.

Oh, this is the National Security equivalent of jobs saved or created.
Terrorists killed captured or converted. But where are the stats?
“He added that he was not “making a tally sheet saying we are killing more people, capturing more people than they did — that is not the issue.”
But the numbers are going up, he said. “The numbers of high value targets that we are successfully reaching out to ….”

Are you kidding me… Has this guy forgot that we captured Saddam Hussein and his group of thugs and sons.

ABC had to look long and hard to find someone who thought this. I bet he also thinks the health care bill is super-duper fantastic dynamite. Then they thought, hey why not ask the adminstration if they think they are doing a good job!
Please give me a break with this guy…”The former Marine General didn’t provide any specific numbers to back up his claim.”
Well no kidding because its not true. Any idiot can see that.

If he had said anything else, it wouldn’t have made the news… So typical of the Obama crowd. Nothing substantial to back it up… ever… to call it like it is, nothing at all to back it up.

This guy is a political hack or he would not have that job. Gibbs calls it the war on terror again, but only once so how can there be a war on terror when there is no war on terror and anyway: and he said “he was not “making a tally sheet saying we are killing more people, capturing more people than they did — that is not the issue.”” What a moron the man is . That IS THE ISSUE! No wonder the country is less safe the idiots running it don’t have a clue.

ROLFMAO!
Right wingers are furious that the reviled Cheney has to get into a credibility argument with the NSA who is a respected former Marine General!

“a kind of a global coming-together…”
Oh, the Obama “effect” is bringing the world together, “I’d like to teach the world to sing…”
“this is a threat to not only the United States but to the world at-large and the world is moving toward doing something about it.”
Geez, the WORLD didn’t KNOW this BEFORE. I don’t think so, check out the 40 plus countries we’ve had Special Forces do counterinsurgency / counterterror the past few years, check out the ongoing Proliferation Security initiative…
“Because of the dialogue and the tone of the dialogue between us and our friends and allies…the trend line against terrorism is positive…” Geez, gag me.
“I think that we are fashioning global relationships with other countries around the world.”
And those countries will do the torture and information gathering for US????

Bwahahahahahaha!. This administration is getting desperate to spew this sort of non-sense. The American people are not fooled by their actions, so now Obama and his cronies are resorting to flat out lies. Do we really believe a handcuffed CIA and military are doing a better job of protecting Americans? Is that why report after report claims the situation in Afghanistan is getting worse?

tip612…
its the National Security Advisor. Gee, tip612, say it like it is… It.s Obama’s National Security Advisor
Now we can all get that warm-fuzzy feeling. LOL

Jones provides no numbers…nothing, nada.
We are suppose to take this administration at its word. HA!
that is why 46% of Americans now approve of the Obama Administration. I predict that Obama’s approval rating will be in the 30s by late this year or early next year.
HAHAHA!!! “Trust us!” says the Obama administratrion. HAHAHAHA!!!!
Just like 53% of voters trusted you, put you into office believing the patheitc rhetoric of Hope and Change. They sure got change, but hope was thrown out the window.

Wait a minute, Gibbs today kept underplaying the role that the Obama administration has had had in Afghanistan, indicating yet again that for so long the Bush admin is to blame………with that logic then….perhaps they should be lauding the Bush admin…for the success in taking out terrorists….over that same time period!!! Think they can be morally honest and do so? NOT!!!

Gen. Jones is RETIRED!!! So he has no clue! He needs to sit down and shut up!

Why am I not surprised that this article comes from ABC? Once they were given a “news office” in the White House, they have relentlessly carried the water for the Obama administration and become part of the Obama propoganda machine. Revolting.

ABC
All Barrack Channel
I don’t believe anything they report. NOTHING!

“..to discuss things with other rulers to enhance the working relationships with law enforcement agencies – both national and international.”
So terrorism is merely a law-enforcement issue and Barack Hussein Obama considers himself a “ruler”?
Must have elevated himself from President to Czar.

It is sad to see a Marine bring feelings to a fact fight even if it is just a polical battlefield.

“Do leftists only start respecting military personnel when it’s in their interest???”
The Right has no room to complain after how they treated Colin Powell.

Good God ….. now it is verified …..Barry gives ABC an hour and you all become the “Good Dogie”.
You know as well as I do that this is all bunk. Barry is destroying the very service that is providing the services that has our adversaries looking over their shoulders.
Gees guys, whose side are you on anyways?

Pure bovine flatulence!
In a Rasmussen poll today, by a margin of 65-26, the American people believe CIA waterboarding of terrorists elicited valuable intelligence and for good reason. Obama and this doofus, political hack “general” will be run out of Dodge when we are struck again.
“…not making a tally sheet…” “…a kind of a global coming-together…”
You mean you kumbayaed them to death? What drivel.

So, now we have a national security adviser simply playing politics.

Why, yes, it makes sense. Those dirty old initiators of man-made disasters just run right out in front of our missiles when they hear their Miranda warning.

Does Barry read them their Miranda rights and offer a free lawyer before “taking them out?” Does he give them the choice of being waterboarded or blown to smitherines?? Certainly they would chose the later vs the terror of being boarded!! Barry should be tried as a war criminal!!

This General doesn’t have a clue and should stop giving unproven facts. If he thinks they are getting better, maybe its because these agents have had 8 years of making good contacts and snitches to gain info on the bad guys. This will stop once the Obama man starts prosecuting some of these agents, they would be fools to keep gaining valuable info, risking their lives and then go to jail, makes no sense. Torture works…….

Of course this is an “ABC News Exclusive”…no other news organization would touch this “story”, errrr tale.

“We’re a nation of values,” he told ABC News.
No sir. We are a nation of laws.

Well, his name is Jim Jones, afterall – we’re supposed to believe everything he says :)

Definition of a moron: Gen. Jim Jones, Ret

“There are no ‘leftists’ in America. There are only normal Americans and the remnants of the fanatical Republican right.”
So, Nancy Pelosi, Bill Ayres, Van Jones, Henry Waxman, John Holdren, etc. are “normal Americans”…interesting perspective…

Oh good . .. here come the good American citizens who know better than the National Security Adviser.
I’ll be sure to pay attention to your opinions . ..

“Not following you. Powell made the case for invasion at the UN. That makes him a liar to the left.”
I don’t know if I can speak for the entire Left but I felt like Powell was a good soldier doing a dirty assignment, so I never held it completely against him.

ooohh pullllleeeeezzz….is this guy being paid by the word? Get him a teleprompter quick. Jimmy Carter is smiling because now he knows that he will not be known as the worst president in US History.

This is beyond ridiculous. The General should reatin some dignity and quit spouting off this stuff.

Oh for sure, if you say the National Security Adviser is an idiot – he must be! How could you possibly be wrong?

Wow, wouldn’t expect such a complete line of excrement coming from a guy with his credentials. Guess this isn’t the James Jones that people thought they knew.
Obama has built a human intel network in 7 months that is more productive than what was built in the last 7 years? Aside from the urge to laugh, this propaganda will be used by those who want to continue to dismantle our defenses as political cover. And that may be a larger act of treason that simply selling the names of our operatives.
I’ll await Gen Jones to announce that he is ‘correcting’ his statement or claiming that he was ‘taken out of context’ or ‘misunderstood’.
Just like Tom Ridge with his supposed claim that ‘political influence’ was used to get his to raise the threat level. Somehow, political appointees manage to say the damndest things which they would never utter outside of the political universe.

Where in the hell does this administration get their information from?

Not following you. Powell made the case for invasion at the UN. That makes him a liar to the left.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 31, 2009 6:44:37 PM”
I know political amnesia is requirement for being a right wingers but you might remember an argument between Colin Powell and Rush Limbaugh earlier this year.

So who are the big names that Obama has taken out, name them. Until he gets Bin Ladin or his second in command, he does not stack up to Bush! What is this crap I keep hearing about we are a nation of values, we are a nation of laws. Go back to school and learn history. We was all that when we was ruled by the British! Come on, try this on for size, “We are a nation of laws, ruled by the people!” Where was the nation of values when we took the land from the Indians. You want to procecute American’s, then take the stolen land back from the American’s and give it back to the Indian’s. Do you own and land in American, Mr. Gen. Jim Jones? Do you own any stolen property? If you buy stolen property, it’s still stolen property, and is not yours! So what values are you talking about?

So, does this mean the left has abandoned the argument that hunting/killing terrorists on creates more terrorists? It would seem Mr. Jones couldn’t make the case for Obama any other way.

How come Obama hasn’t bagged Osama.
He claimed Bush didn’t do enough to get Osama…WELL!!!

If national security wasn’t such a deadly serious matter, this bombast from Jim Jones would be worth several loud guffaws!

General, In that you were part of the last administration as SACEUR/EUCOM when you were one of three combatant commanders (along with PACOM and CENTCOM) whose primary responsiblity and mission was national defense and counter terriorism, your words ring hollow and show your true colors as a grandstanding political hack; just as you were when on active. Pathetic.

While the Obama administration is having “greater international success with terrorists,” Iran has ramped up its rhetoric against Israel and probably has a nuclear weapon loaded and aimed at Israel; North Korea has launched several test missiles, making Japan mighty nervous; and Scotland has released the terrorist behind one of the greatest terrorist attacks before 9/11; and we just had the deadliest month on record in Afghanistan – not to mention the violence against voters int hat country. Yup. I’m feeling that success.

#1 at taking out terrorists?
Taking them out for $3,500.00 hamburgers, maybe………..

Who’s next in the choir to sing the praises of the empty suit Barack Obama – the Tooth Fairy?
Does any cognitive person really trust Barack Obama or any of his minions to actually speak the TRUTH?
They can fool some of the people some of the time, but they can’t fool all of the people all of the time!

“Because of the dialogue and the tone of the dialogue between us and our friends and allies…the trend line against terrorism is positive…”
Hmmmm… just how many of these friends and allies are helping us in Afganastan? BO says that Afganastan is the center of the war on terror (oops, I mean Human Caused Disaster People).

Looks like those “anit-war” liberals became pro war Neo CONS in record time. How can you excoriate Bush and continue his useless wars that kill Americans and put their familes as well as the rest of us in perpetual debt.
Either stand on principle…or fall for Everything. Bottom line, the liberals and neo cons are addicted to POWER and will kill and impoverish both countries as their international banking elites laugh all the way to the bank… (that steals YOUR MONEY!!!)
Tell me Neo CONS, Neo Libs, how many dead Americans is worth the price of Heroin, cause the only thing that is rising after all of this needless sacrifice is the price of drugs, the deaths of civillians, and the security of America’s borders. (That Obama would like to destroy with illegal immigration and the “North American Community” or Union, if you will.)

Obama better at taking out terrorists? Are you kidding me? These morons, Obama and Bush, have never seen a terrorist in their entire lives, not to mention have anything to do with any of the military operations that take place on the other side of the world. Nice job ABC. Keep spreading the propaganda.

That a senior military leader could make such a unabashed,sycophantic claim is a new low in the history of American military.It makes one wonder why Bush has not discovered this talent for his own use in Iraq.

Oh yeah.Kissing up to the PC socialists in Europe and the leftist thugs in south America is a radical change for the better.Thats why the europeans are not sending anymore troops to afganistan and the terrorists are surrendering themselves because Obama promised them to close GITMO and not to throw water in their faces.To Top that Obama is going after any CIA agent who smacked any terrorist in the face.Interrogations will be conducted by the whitehouse now.Free cookies and signed Obama book for everyone and a free trip to Aruba.Freaking Amazing.

Ya much better but lets not make any kind of Tally sheet. God I wish life worked like that and people will just blindly fallow me if I say with 0 proof that I am doing it better. The is one small thing that seems to differ on this issue, It’s called common sense. Show me proof that your doing a better job and then I might believe you.

General Jones was the hack who hung Tony Zinni out to dry-the same Gen. Zinni who was one of the first general officers to endorse Mr. Obama.I respect Gen. Jones’ service, but to make statements like these are crazy.What high-value targets have we hit since Jan. 20?

I see words, not facts. Empty talk is obama’s stock in trade.

Can’t believe the hacks are attacking a proud and honorable man such as Jim Jones, a man who has served our country with courage and distinction for more years than most of the blatherers have paid taxes. Aren’t these the clowns that go apoplectic whenever somebody dares to even question somebody in uniform?

ABC would have more credibilty if they allowed descenting opinions of Obamas policies.

me again Said: “…Iran has ramped up its rhetoric against Israel and probably has a nuclear weapon loaded and aimed at Israel; North Korea has launched several test missiles…”
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LOL …. what rock have you been under during the past 8 years? Iran has been building up their nuclear capability since Bush took office (remember, “Axes of Evil”). As for Korea, yep, they were thumbing their noses at the Bush/Cheney jokes, and continuing to build their nuclear weapons right in front of us. ….. LMAO…. I guess “me again” thinks that a nation’s Nuclear Program is built in 7 months…. only showing how ignorant you are about engineering, and what it takes to develop this capability.

I wonder why, given Obama’s morre enlightened approach to dealing with foreign governments, the Brits held him in such low regard that they sent a convicted terrorist home to Libya rather than turning him over immediately to the US, which has an outstanding indictment and arrest warrant for him.

this whole left vs. right thing needs to stop if we are to get anywhere..it has gotten out of control

Several hundred terrorists have reportedly died of sheer boredom while listening the Cairo harangue of Barack Obama.General Jones might be referring to this devastating speech.

Difference is that Cheney was there; Jim Jones wasn’t.

and who apointed Jones? so who do you think he will fall on the sword for?

If this is true, then it is due to all the hard work put in by Bush/Cheney/US troops over the past 6+ years. Obama is getting credit for all of their hard work.

I HAVE DISCOVERED THE CURE FOR CANCER, HEART DISEASE AND ALZHEIMER’S. I JUST DON’T HAVE THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS TO BACK UP MY CLAIM.

“to discuss things with other rulers”
Since when did the United States have a “ruler.” Oh, yeah, I forgot. Since Teleprompter Boy got elected.

Listen up, people!
Can anyone name ANY ARMY in the history of the world that has beaten Afghanistan on its home turf? NONE THAT I KNOW OF … and our self-appointed expert of experts on all subjects wants to SEND FINE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OFF TO THE GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES DIE AS GROUND TROOPS … IDIOCY!
Google this: Why is Afghanistan known as “the graveyard of empires”? LEARN from history!
Pull the troops out … let the natives wear their tents … fight from the air … CIA covert operations and bomb bomb bomb!
IN the meantime, BO stands to lose the war in Iraq. NOW, whose priorities are screwed up?

Ryan, the war in Afghanistan is escalating and we initiated it in large part. We’ve sent more troops over to do this, we are NOT being nice to the taliban. Just goes to show that over the top partisan “thinkers” tend to distort out of convenience. They don’t want to or can’t give the other side credit for anything, including in this case, missing the obvious, we are being more aggressive with the taliban AND improving relations with the rest of the world, but not being adversarial and arrogant. (see Cheney’s latest comments for a reminder of this tendency in the former administration). No one ever said that “hunting/killing” terrorist created more terrorists. It was how it was done, with the said arrogance and adversarial tone in which it was done as well as say, overly depending on air strikes, rather than boots on the ground, that increased the likelyhood of civilian deaths.
Another example of partisanship gone bad is the obvious fact that no one, including writers on this post, can give Obama any credit for his efforts in Afghanistan. He can’t get any credit, it has been only 7 mths., yet a month into(and it continues today) his presidency, many conservatives were dying to blame Obama on the economy, reglardless of how the economy really works.
You most certainly can see a change in relations with allies around the world and how people and governments are relating differently to the US. A change to a more cooperative and less adversarial is what was needed. Bush did have to do a lot of the dirty work as comes with war and some of that gets unfairly thrown in the mix. People on the left are still going on about how Afghanistan was about oil and we shouldn’t be there, they still don’t give the US credit, regardless on how you felt about the start of the war in Iraq, with how we worked tirelessly(in both countries actually) to bring services, food and their own version of democracy to both countries. That sort of thing has never been done in history.(the soviets made them puppets and ran their countries into the ground for instance).

So Obama is killing more terrorists than Bush did.
Well, since Obama has become President, terrorists are killing more Americans than they killed under Bush.
SINCE OBAMA HAS BECOME PRESIDENT, AT THE END OF AUGUST, MORE AMERICANS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN THIS YEAR THAN WERE KILLED ANY YEAR SINCE THE WAR BEGAN.
I think I liked the way things were going when Bush was President……how about you Bucky?

I don’t believe the Pope either. Just because someone is in a position of power doesn’t mean what they’re saying is real.

PRETTY AMAZING FEAT FOR A GUY (OBAMA)WHO KEPT TELLING US THAT “WE HAVE LOST IN IRAQ!!” TALK ABOUT A BUNCH OF GOBBLEDEGOOK!!!

Julieterra, you’re right- there is no longer a left vs. right- but you’ve got it backwards.
On the one hand, you’ve got the 75%+ Americans who think that gov’t is too big and intrusive, that the stimulus was bunk, that taxes are too high, that the debt is out of control… you know, the people who believe in the constitution, the idea of limited government, the idea that government is, and always shall be, the problem, not the solution, that free men and women ALWAYS govern themselves better than a distant master in DC, that local solutions fix local problems, that the best way to help the poor, the hungry, etc. is through the most efficient mechanism ever developed… you know, people that believe in freedom…
And on the other hand, you’ve got a) a fringe group of idiotic leftists that defy all history, common sense, and experience and believe that THIS TIME fascism/socialism/communism would work if only the ‘right people’ (ie themselves) implemented it, and b) those that don’t have an iota of interest in government beyond enriching and empowering themselves and their friends at the expense of others.
The irony with the left is, they generally CREATE the problems they claim to want to solve, and in creating them, find justification for doing exactly what they did to create the problem in the first place, and then perpetuate that action… meanwhile, the folks with a real bead on how to solve all those problems are attacked for ‘not caring’ – ie, pressing for the very things that created those problems in the first place.

Wow, thank you I learned a lot from this post…

So Republicans assume Jim Jones is wrong, and Democrats assume Jim Jones is right, and none of them have any clue which is really the case. But hey, let’s all go through the motions anyway, because insulting people we don’t even know makes us feel superior to them.
Next topic?

Its funny how many of you advance the red flag on ABC for being one sided as if this publication is any more equitable in its reporting of current events!!! LOL, if I might go further, let me add that I’m willing to bet the house that many of you get your news from the ALWAYS fair and balanced fox news!!!! Not saying that ABC is one way or the other but when will we stop allowing our bitterness to control our views????
If Jones is carrying water, many of you are no better than he is, as it sounds like most of you are just taking the baton from the left wing mouth pieces as though their redirect has nothing to do with trying to shift the balance of power in this country!! I mean, do any of you listen to yourselves …….lol….what is your theme today??? Does the president have some hidden agenda to destroy the country from within???? REALLY????
If there are signs that the administration’s actions are really making us less safe or vulnerable to attack, do you really think they would continue on such a path with elections to be won in the forefront? And if your under the impression that they are somehow simpleminded then let me tell you I’m VERY impressed as you are able to come to that conclusion having never received a daily intelligence briefing in your life!!!!

Perhaps he is having so called success due to the fact the Taliban assassinated the lady who was running for office in Pakistan? Remember her? And now the “elected ones” in Pakistan have seen the light and decided to actually help. I dam sure wouldn’t give our joker commander in chief any credit for it

I think Jones is probably right, but for the wrong reason. Obama has demonstrated a greater willingness to blow up the terrorists, along with their wives and children while sleeping in their beds, and done far less to capture and interrogate them, stopping fewer plots and attacks on civilians.
It’s much easier to blow up a block of houses than to capture the guy and let his kids live. Besides, dead people can’t complain about how they were treated or appeal to the civilian courts.

Wonder why Obama is not saying he inherited the terrorist fighting system from Bush?
Everything that is set up and in place was by the Bush and Cheney White House.

Why have they not captured Bin Laden yet?

Calie Stephens posted “Well, since Obama has become President, terrorists are killing more Americans than they killed under Bush.”
Let’s look at some numbers, shall we?
Americans killed in Iraq under Bush -
4533, under Obama – 100
Americans killed in Afghanistan under Bush – 630, under Obama -180
Sorry, but it looks like you’re way off on your believes.
You also posted “I think I liked the way things were going when Bush was President……how about you Bucky?”
Bush is the one who got us into Iraq, a NEEDLESS 2nd front. Under Bush 4533 Americans died. And you say you like that?

How’s that national debt going?
does china own us yet?

Just like Obama; this guy talks in platitudes only. He has no fact. The only success I’ve seen is the Drone’s. We’re lucky Obama didn’t ground those when he took office. Until this weekend I didn’t think Obama even knew we had a war in Afganistan; not on the front page of the Post?
As for former Vice-President Cheney; I don’t think he gives a rat’s *** about his legacy (Clinton’s the one worried about that). Mr. Cheney loves the country and his main concern is keeping the country safe.
I am sure that there are thousands of people that work in “Library” building and surrounding area in Los Angeles that are thankful that we used waterboarding and avoided another major attack. Interrogation would have never produced that information.
I trust a man that has been Defense Secretary and Vice President more than a guy that served 175 in the Senate…

When you elect the Messiah as your leader, the miracles (and somehow the lies) just seem to fall from the heavens. I really feel sorry for the “sheep” among us. They will never have a clue.

Jones is either smoking crack or drinking too much of Barry’s KoolAid

My son was wounded Saturday in Afghanistan when a suicide bomber detonated himself 15 feet from my son. These Taliban are not stupid. The suicide bomber, wearing his explosives on the front of himself, walked up to talk to the lieutenant, radioman, afghan interpreter, and another soldier, turned himself to them, and then detonated himself. My son was standing to the side about 15 ft away scanning the area. The blast knocked him off his feet. He crawled/rolled into a ditch not knowing if it was a mortar, rpg, or what the heck happened. As soon as he saw all was clear he charged out to give aid to the wounded, then saw he had blood gushing from his ankle, tied a light tourniquet around is leg, and continued to aid the wounded. Then a sergeant saw he was bleeding from his side, told him to remove his body armor, put clotting powder on his wounds, and slapped some bandages on him. Then my son grabbed a machine gun and held security over the area. He and the other wounded were taken to Kandahar to be treated. He called us from the hospital after coming out of x-ray. My son says his face looks like bad acne from the blast, has shrapnel from head to toe, and has been picking pieces of shrapnel from his arms and leg. He’s partially deaf in one ear…the hearing may or may not come back. He was told they were going to do surgery to remove the piece of shrapnel from his ankle the following morning. Later in the evening we were called by the Dept of the Army and told the hospital in Kandahar had determined he was not seriously injured and returned to duty. The other 3 U.S. soldiers will be sent back to the States for further treatment. I’m not sure where the Afghan interpreter is being sent for further treatment he needs.

The situation in this country NOW is not who got picked first in kickball – it’s division! The terrorists are winning – silently .. they are winning! This country has never been more divided! We’ll lose that way!

“-to discuss things with other rulers…”
So, is Obama our ruler?

“As for former Vice-President Cheney; I don’t think he gives a rat’s *** about his legacy”
Then why is he is adamantly defending policies his own administration later abandoned?
This about the Cheney’s legacy being the great defenders of the US rather than being caught napping on 9/11 and subsequently shaming America by torturing people.

I really think it’s quite amazing that liberals have such a major problem with the “torturing” of terrorists but in this article the national security advisor admits that they are killing terrorists. -BH
We are killing terrorists in battle, we do not consider killing terrorists once they have been taken prisoner.

To Randy: what a closed mind you have. We are fighting where we should have been years ago. Iraq was a war we didnot have to have..no weapons and little by little everyone is realizing this fact. Cheney is a fool to keep saying waterboarding is o.k. First it was against the law, second that means if one of our boys get captured,they can use the same torture…think about this.

“Why have they not captured Bin Laden yet?” Bush and Cheney had 7 years, Obama has had 7 months.
Posted by: julieterra | Aug 31, 2009 7:33:55 PM
Reminds me of apportionment of blame for Bin Laden’s 9/11 – Clinton had 8 years, Bush had 8 months. Oh well, what goes around, comes around.

while I didn’t get to read the whole article that was posted and I’m sure you did not…I can understand why you are upset, but don’t lump all Republicans together because of a couple outliers…get to know average working middleclass Americans like me who happen to have the majority of my views tend toward those of the republican party..while some of my views may be wrong and I realize that is very plausible. not all of us are crazy and the ones that aren’t need to be heard

I find it interesting that Jones admitted that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is smart and can “play out a lie” so what make Jones believe that he told the Red Cross the truth? Huh?

“I trust a man that has been Defense Secretary and Vice President more than a guy that served 175 in the Senate…”
I trust a man who served over 3 decades under Republican and Democrat administrations and is an honorable general (ret.) serving as our current NSA more than a guy who dodge the draft and can’t even shoot a gun straight!

Steven1nc, God bless your son, and your family.

Lockerbie Bomber set free(the UK wouldn’t have dared to do that with Bush as President), Gitmo prisoners being set free, war going badly in Afghanistan, Apology tour around the world, yeah right.

Setting aside party labels, if a larger percentage of this country considers themselves conservative, and if Obama is polling below 50 percent overall, doesn’t that mean that at least a couple of people who voted for him are experiencing a gut-check?
I don’t care what Jim Jones says. He can say anything he wants to – how would we know whether it was true or not?
It’s simple. We have a president who bragged he could do so much better than his predecessor that we have been expecting much better. Ain’t happenin’.

Here’s why Cheney is so desperately on TV every chance he can get: He’s hoping that if he says “we protected the American people for 8 years” enough times, people will forget it was on HIS watch that the most devastating attack in history on Continental US soil took place. It’s the classic Rovian strategy: no matter what it is that you’re saying, if you say it enough times, some people will believe it (witness the 40% of Americans who thought Saddam was behind 9/11).

You can’t have it both ways. If fhe Obama administration wants to blame the poor economy today on actions of the prior administration, it should give also give the prior administration deserved credit for recent anti-terrorist successes. One day (I’m not holding my breath), the President will say, “OK, EVERYTHING, the good, the bad, and the in between are now my responsibility”.

It’s despicable that so many party hacks are on this board attacking a decorated General who served his country with distinction for so many years. General Jim Jones is an American hero and you’ve got a bunch of angry ideologues in their basements screaming at him because they can’t stand to hear the truth of what he’s saying. Whatever happened to “we stand up for our men and women in uniform”? For shame…

Skip said “We are killing terrorists in battle, we do not consider killing terrorists once they have been taken prisoner.” Skip, are you some teenager that didn’t pay attention in school? Killing prisoners is something we have always condemned our enemies of? Now you are saying that is okay for the USA? You need to go back and learn a little out our military past!

Apparently the RETIRED General is looking for a job. There is no way that 8-months in office had detered or captured more than 8 years! A good thing the Media doesn’t ask the General for details and examples or they’d both look stupid for making a story of this.

Hey Cheney: Did you forget that it was under your watch that we were attacked? So I guess they were not too afraid of you and your administration. You are the one making us unsafe implying that we are not up to keeping the country safe. How would you have liked it if someone said that during your years? Truthfully I think your administration did what they thought was right and we are doing the same…doing what we think is right. We are just as safe as you were before the attack so lets get off this and enjoy your retirement.

going to need to keep a cache of this story. gonna be amusing some day. and sad.

I liked the article I had hoped that we were gaining ground in the real world amid this bizarre Cheney play; so it is good to hear. It can be fairly said that we were never safe under Bush/Cheney, and we are working to be safer.

we need VP Biden to resolve this! he always speaks the truth ya know.. Where in the world is JOE BIDEN??

it took bush 37 months to go below 50%

I highly doubt obama has put more terrorists out of commission in his first year than Bush did in 6 to 7 years?! What the General is doing is called damage control. If Obama is even close its only because of the intel, the Bush administration had aquired before Obama changed it all.
That being said, I don’t agree with what Bush has done and most of the tactics he approved. To flat out say Obama has done more in a 10th of the time Bush had is completely absurd

I liked the article I had hoped that we were gaining ground in the real world amid this bizarre Cheney play; so it is good to hear. It can be fairly said that we were never safe under Bush/Cheney, and we are working to be safer.
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let’s hope so…we can’t afford another 9/11 both mentally and financially

Patriotic American,disagreeing with Gen. Jones is not attacking him. Being decorated does not mean that you are incapable of being wrong-as many Obama supporters pointed out about Sen. McCain.He made a foolish statement that he cannot back up with facts-within 24 hours we will see some kind of retraction(if the media reports it at all).

On December 1, 2008 then-President-elect Obama announced Jones as his selection for National Security Advisor. The National Security Advisor is appointed by the President without confirmation by the United States Senate. Jones assumed the post when Obama was sworn into office on January 20, 2009.

Bin Ladin, Bin Ladin… geez, even the Bush administration finally admitted there is ZERO EVIDENCE that Bin Ladin had any direct hand in 9/11. Like Sadam Hussein, he was/is a nasty guy, an enemy in his philosophy to the United States. The Bush administration used him as a tool to incite the country’s wrath after 9/11. Is his destruction critical to our future or an key element in our continued security? Not likely.

probably is classified because if the general public knows, then the terrorists probably know..just using general knowledge here

julieterra | Aug 31, 2009 8:05:21 PM As you know, Bush eventually fell to somewhere around 30% approval rating. President Obama has a long way to go.
++++++++At the rate he is going he will have the third fastest falling approval rating of any president since WWII behind Ford and Carter per Gallup 8/26/09

> “terrorist mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed provided information after being water boarded dozens of times”
Where in the report did it categorize the information KSM provided as pre- or post-torture? And where did it categorize any information he provided as having been elicited explicitly because of torture?
What jpt chooses to ignore is the fact that Bush/Cheney used torture-elicited falsehoods to justify invasion of Iraq (see: al Libi), making non-theoretical the deaths that can be attributed to Bush’s torture regime.
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probably is classified because if the general public knows, then the terrorists probably know..just using general knowledge here

Mr. Obama is a serial liar. Lying is contagious, like SARS. It always flows from the top down. Biden started to lie for, about and with Mr. Obama. Hillary, although she was amazing when she was speaking her mind, started to lie about Mr. Obama. Now it trickled down to the General Jones.

Once again theis administration offers us “words” but no facts to back them up..no statistics, no names, places, nothing..just empty words…show me…prove to me what you say is true…then maybe the American people will believe you….in this short time is office, this foolish President has only proven he is a liar, a non-believer in America, a far left wing politician and believer in government ruling the population….
I don’t think it leads to a victory in 2010 or 2012…1 term, with enormous damage done to America…let’s hope we survive as a Nation….

Al Qaeda attacks on Americans on Bill Clinton’s watch: Khobar Towers; African embassies; WTC 1993; USS Cole. (What have I left out?) And what did Clinton do that bothered Al Qaeda in any way?

Oh, yes. And pigs fly. But when all the secret discussions and memos are made public, perhaps we can make the judgments ourselves, yes? Otherwise, Obama’s “success” in this regard is just a claim made by an appointee who probably fears being investigated by Eric Holderif he doesn’t toe the line.

Cheney and Bush presided over our nation during the only successful attack on our Continental soil in 200 years. Last time we were successfully attacked on our Continental soil was when the British were lobbing rusty cannon balls at us. Based on that metric, their policies were a failure. Cheney has been desperately trying to rewrite history in all these faux-interviews, like the embarrassing fawn-job on Fox yesterday.

Young_voter.
I think its funny how the first word you say is facts and then say the only terrorist attack to happen in America happened under Bush/Cheney. You’ve proven that you’re a young voter because your memory seems to be short. Who was president the first time the World Trade Center was bombed? Bill Clinton. Who was President when the OKC Federal Building was destroyed? Bill Clinton.

There is only one reaction any reasonable person can have to JJ’s (Jim Jones) claim: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA …! Unfortunately it won’t be a laughing matter for long. If JJ doesn’t take his partisan blinders off, we are going to pay dearly for the community organizer’s policies.

Obama has done #@^&*. Run his mouth and fly all over the place playing the roll. America – you have been flim flamed big time.

What else would you expect someone in the Obama cabinet to say? Jeeze, he’s Obama’s security adviser for pete’s sake. It’s like that little, my dad can beat up your dad game kids play. They need to grow up.

As much as this Democrat would like to believe that this administration is doing better……we all know that is a bunch of bs.

Right.
The release of the Lockerbie Bomber by our very close Allies shows a noticeable tightening of bonds between us, now doesn’t it.
And with the President declaring the hero’s welcome in Libya “highly objectionable,” terrorists must be shaking in their boots wondering what Obama is going to say next!
What a joke this Administration is.
The next attack ought to be a doozy!

“Everyone needs to take their blinders off and make intelligent remarks for a change. Every president we have had accomplished some good things for our country and they also all failed in other ways. Say some intelligent instead of making stupid generalizations.”
Couldn’t agree more Mike. Unfortunately there are people who come on here with their own personal political agenda, and it has little to do with facts or reality – it is ideology.

Obama is merely trying to shift the focus off of health care because he is losing so badly on that front. Figure it out Barack…we aint buying what you’re selling! No socialism for America!

Jeremy – it was the Bush administration that cozied up to Libya. Did you not notice?

Jim Jones has drunk the koolaid, and he has shown how naive he is if he really believes all that nonsense. Anyone who thinks we are safer now that we are appeasing state sponsors of terrorism is living in a 1990′s world where the US was attacked directly because the terrorists did not fear us. The only way to ensure peace is to carry a really big stick, use it when necessary, and then the need to use that stick diminishes significantly. Diplomacy has never convinced terrorists to stop trying to kill those whom they hate.

I feel much safer with Barack in Office, don’t you? What an American hero, what with all his vast experience as a community organizer and two years on the campaign trail. He’s a real leader on terrorism, that one. Hang in there, America: Jan. 20, 2013.

USA #1. I’m not going to argue about Bush and Cheney. They and most of our other politicians in this country are underqualified and incompitent but… you are an idiot. The world trade center was attacked in the early nineties. Check your history OR you can just tell the victims of that attack that it was unsuccessful. “Blame Bush in 2012″. Will that slogan still work?

“….to discuss things with other rulers…”
Nice.

“Would it be your assessment, then, that other nations had the ability to combat terrorists but chose not to simply to spite Bush, and now do the opposite simply because they like Obama more?”
Not as simplistic as that. Co-operation is not something you ‘demand’ or ‘coerce’ from others, it’s something that is worked up together.

Gee Whiz!!!What a HERO….not!!!!

Edward claims: “When the the Twin Towers were bombed in 1993 under President Clinton’s watch… he also kept us safe for the next seven years… and he didn’t have to torture anyone to do it.”
Of course, Edward conveniently “forgets” to mention (1) the 1998 Al Qaeda simultaneous attacks on two US embasies and the (2) 2000 Al Qaeda attack on the USS Cole. Apparently we weren’t too safe following the Democrats slap on the wrist against Al Qaeda.

OBAMA is making himself look rather
foolish. He is quoting a guy that
during his talk he said: “….I’m not
saying we are killing more of the enemy
or capturing more….it is just….”
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE MAN SAYING???

more freakin obama lies.
throw the bums out. We can’t have 2 faced LIARS representing the United States of America.

Yeah, there you go BAM…so who will get the credit for the billions of profit on the bailout…any one want to bet!!
This is so like them…anyone here could have guessed the reply on this one.
MSMs go get tough now…

What a tool.

Remember, we are war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eurasia.

It’s amazing how Obama’s followers, live in another planet. These terrorists are killing our precious blood, in front of their face, and they have the gumption to say OB, is doing a better job than Bush. Hello!! Bush is not the commander in chief anymore. During the whole 6 months of Bush advance in Iraq, there were never these many young people killed.More soldiars were killed during the 1st 6 mo. of BO, administration.

Jones assumed the post when Obama was sworn into office on January 20, 2009. Yep, what else is he going to say?

Jone said: ” “The world is coming together on this matter now that President Obama has taken the leadership on it” So where are the additional free world troops to help us in Afghanistan? If our statnding has gone up and we are ridding the world of terrorists – why are we and the Brits the only ones standing a post in the desert? It must be remembered that the ego-driven Jones is trying to replace CIA Station Chiefs with his own people. His ambition and political support of this administration supercedes his role as Security Advisor.

Jason – if your criteria is bombings taking place on foreign soil then Bush and Cheney failed horribly in protecting America. Literally thousands of bombings of Americans took place on foreign soil after 9/11 and literally thousands of Americans were killed.

Come to think of it – Jones looks and sounds a lot like Stansfield Turner – who vigorrously tried to destroy the CIA under Carter.

what people forget is that the USA, was attacked, by these terrorists, now the left is making it seem, that we somehow were to blame for invading them for no reason. They declared war on the USA. by attacking and murdering over 3,000 People in the USA. I wonder how many soldiars will die befor his term is over. And there will be peace in Aphganistan. Bush IFEEL WILL BE ONE OF OUR GREATEST PRESIDENT,because he was responsible for setting those in the middle East free from terrorism.

This administration is like a child (dangerous child) in an argument. Everytime someone brings up Bush the answer is; I know I am but what are you”.
It is more a error of bad comedies rather than a comedy of bad errors.
Both parties are two sides of the same evil, corrupt, crooked coin. Heads I win tails you lose.

Childish perspective. Absolutely Childish.

Thank GOD the years when torture was made legal in the United States of America are over.
Bush and Cheney trampled on the Geneva conventions our Fathers respectfully signed.
We can breathe again.
Proud to be an American, free of torture.

I guess it’s time for Obama to play that “decorated National Security Advisor” trump card. I knew he would come in handy!

drivel.
“I haven’t seen any compelling evidence that would argue because somebody was subjected to enhanced techniques that there was a revelation that we wouldn’t have had,” he said, “but it is very hard to prove the negative on this.”
That has to be one of the most weasel like quotes I’ve ever read. Basically there is no proof at all that he would have given us half the information he did if we hadn’t put him through the ringer. But the former general has to get the thought out there somehow doesn’t he?
This whole exchange is terribly cliche ridden. It looks like it was scripted in a poli sci 101 course.

FTA, 2nd paragraph: “…with other rulers…”? Gen. Jones should know better. Only monarchies and dictatorships have rulers. It’s reassuring to read the comments and see both a knowledge of Orwell and history represented.

Respectfully, the general’s remarks do not pass the straight-face test.
But a Marine being supportive of Marxist Obama? Can’t figure that out.
And making statements to undermine the CIA?
We’re in a worse predicament than I thought.

Gen. Jim Jones is speaking the TRUTH.
With LIES, Bush and Cheney trampled on the Geneva conventions our Fathers respectfully signed.

Doesn’t anyone else smell politics here? I mean Cheney is bitching about Eric Holder’s investigation of the CIA and this guy comes out of the blue?
Yes, I smell politics, and it STINKS!

This is obviously an article promulgated on the left. I can tell because the author doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

“But a Marine being supportive of Marxist Obama?”
Lie.

He actually said ruler:
“The world is coming together on this matter now that President Obama has taken the leadership on it and is approaching it in a slightly different way – actually a radically different way – to discuss things with other rulers ….”
- scary

Huh? Doesn’t Jones have a conflict of interest here? What’s he suppose to say? Obama’s useless? Obama controls this guy’s future… another useless piece by the MSM to prop up this empty suit, who in reality knows not a thing about foreign policy. But he did claim to live in a foreign country… yeah right. If that’s the case, I should be POTUS!

Jim Jones worked for the Bush administration.
He and Secretary Gates are the only Bush holdovers to work for Obama.
So… when a guy of that stature… a guy who even Sean Hannity, of all people, praised as one of the few good Obama appointments back in January… says that Obama’s administration is doing a better job fighting terrorism than Bush’s…
IT MEANS SOMETHING.
The cognitive dissonance of the righwing folks posting here is hilarious.
They can’t even conceive of the idea that Obama is better at this than Bush/Cheney…. even when one of their own tells them so.

hoping for your nation to fail is schizophrenic.
Schizophrenia is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental disorder characterized by abnormalities in the perception or expression of reality.
Think about it.

Obama is having more success at taking ot terrorists? They must mean taking them out to dinner.

Posted by:Thanks Aug 31, 2009 8:52:21PM—I wouldn’t hold my breath.

This coming from a network that won’t air ads critical of ObamaCare, yet holds an hour long infomercial from the WhiteHouse over the same issue – I don’t trust anything you say, you have sold out…

“But the numbers are going up, he said. “The numbers of high value targets that we are successfully reaching out to or identifying through good intelligence”
WE ARE KILLING MORE OF THEIR-AND THEY ARE DEFINITELY KILLING MORE OF OURS. Every soldier in the US military is a high value target to the terrorists. Every terrorist we kill is not Obama pulling the trigger to get them its our soldiers. Obama gets no credit for having his generals claim victory for him-Obama has never even served in the military. He protested the wars and in my eyes-he can never ever claim a military victory on those grounds alone.

General Jones, you have no class. Like your boss. No wonder the enemy laughs at us. What other reaction could they have to fractured leadership?

“The former Marine General didn’t provide any specific numbers to back up his claim”
Shocked, I tell ya, shocked.

That statement proves liberals actually have a sense of humor because the punchline that The One has killed more terrorists than President Bush is a show-stopping side-splitter.

It is ironic the President relies on our military forces to succeed in Iraq/Afghanistan and on CIA to stop the next attack.
Yet, his Justice goes after CIA with an investigation, despite the previous review,and, releases information that tell other govts we cannot be trusted with their secrets.
It is as if JFK, had he not been assassinated, would have been investigated for CIA plans to kill Castro.

How does Jones know they were terrorists? Was there a trial? Besides, I thought the war on terror was over. Obama is killing man made something or others.

Strange!! Republicans concerned about the mounting dead total in Ahganistan. Democrats saying that it is necessary to win in Ahganistan. Could it be that both sides are hippocrits?

Emma posted, “I did not know much about General Jones but have always wondered why a former Marine Corps General officer would want to have anything to do with this administration.”
I served 4 years in the USMC and also don’t know much about Jones. My question about Jones is if he wanted to be useful why didn’t be vocal about the poisoned water at Camp Lejeune NC? Too many cancers, birth defects, etc. I was at CLNC in the 1970′s. They just notified me of ‘possible health effects in 2008. Great! I got cancer in 2001 and 2009.
Keep your mouth shut, get the next star, and screw anyone else. That’s my opinion on Jones and his ilk.
Semper Fi

Wow, what BS is this? Lets go through the book of whose who of terrorists…remember the deck of 50? I do. Remember all but Number 1 were captured or killed? So now tell us…in order for this clown at the NSA to be correct he had to have captured or killed NUMBER 1, the ACE of SPADES…OSAMA BIN LADEN? thats the only terrorist more valuable than those that Bush caught…such BS coming from this administration..wondewr how may readers out there have drank the Jim Jones (Obama flunkie) cool-aid? Sucks when reality gets served up to you on a platter that yer liberals are incompetent at everything they do.

On top of that, perhaps someone should explain to jOnes that Obama has donated millions in Us tax money to terrorists like Hamas to help them “relocate”…here. Now, Obama is attacking the CIA for keeping the terrorists in line. We are so up a chit creek without a paddle that it isn’t even funny. Is it 2012 yet? And exactly how accurate where the Mayans? They say we end in December 2012…you know the supposed end of Obama’s term.

This man: Marine. Cheney: Weaseled out. Who do I believe? (Hint: Not the weasel.)

HaHaHaHa!
Oh – oh my, oh, oooh, that’s rich!!!

Obama = Mental midget

Yeah right . . . we can tell that the war in Afghanistan is really going well. To voice such a proclamation is naive, childish and a telling sign of desperation. Obama is completely lost.

David J – Kennedy had connections to the KGB, just like the Bushs had connections to Bin Laden and Muslem oil cartel. You can find that on the Internet also. Along with Bush being behind the distruction of the World Trade Center. Also, we never landed on the moon. Also, aliens have landed in the US. It is easy to find trash presented as facts on the Internet! Just read this blog if you don’t believe it – 90% of it is distortion of the truth.

Cheney is trying to head off a Whitewater investigation into the shadow government he ran under George Bush. Lies, torture, ignoring the moral values on which America were founded… the legacy of Cheney is the legacy of a coward.

“It is as if JFK, had he not been assassinated, would have been investigated for CIA plans to kill Castro.”
JFK might well have been assassinated because of off-spin of those very plots. It’s serious business.

Actually, Obama is doing a good job of following in Bush’s footsteps when it comes to the war on terror, without the left even knowing it. As with all things Obama, you have to watch his actions instead of listening to his words. Good on him for continuing to kill terrorists. Even getting the left to cheer him while he does it!

I don’t know how many terrorist Obama has quashed, but the hellfire missiles are taking a toll in Pakistan. Is he taking credit for violating Pakistan’s air space?

I hope the general is right, but it appears that his comments are just bs, wishful thinking, and self delusion like so much else coming out of the administration. The general talks a good game but where are the victories?

“American’s biggest foreign threat actually lives in the White House.”
Lie.

I don’t know when Gen. Jones retired? But I do know that he was a commander in Cheif during Bush’s time. So what he is saying is that he didn’t do his job very well!! Interesting that all these prior Generals like to say how screwed up things are after they retire? Kinda like the Senator’s and Congrssmen that have been in office for many terms?

President Bush and Vice President Cheney only went into Afghanistan because they couldn’t convince this country that it was Iraq who attacked us. They were never concerned that the ones who DID attack up were a terrorist group from Afghanistan. The whole Iraq fiasco could have been avoided if we had had decent people in office at the time to take it to the attackers and nothing else. But no, they began a big campaign to scare and fool America into attacking Iraq with their fear mongering lame evidence that Saddam Husein was a great threat to us.

I see Rahm Emanuel has been working overtime.

To say you’re he is having greater success is like comparing apples to oranges. (LOL)
More reason we should not be going after the CIA interogators. After all they were the ones who figured out who needed to be killed.

When Obama get’s back from vacation he will have to thank the general for covering his back.

“The whole Iraq fiasco could have been avoided if we had had decent people in office at the time to take it to the attackers and nothing else. But no, they began a big campaign to scare and fool America into attacking Iraq with their fear mongering lame evidence that Saddam Husein was a great threat to us.”
Couldn’t be more true. An idiotic squandering of money and lives on a neo-con wet dream that had nothing to do with 9/11 or protecting America.
And we’ll pay for it for years.

General the prior administration had zero attacks in our homeland after 9 11.
“Well maybe they did a good job, and
maybe they didn’t”. Now look straight
into the camera general and say “I am
not smarter than a 5th grader.” Oh yes,
you said those who did not break the law
had no worries, you should have added
those who are not breaking the law (including you, have no worries because
their will be another administration after this one and you boys are not going to like hearing payback is a ….

Maybe the men of Washington could all go rent some arena and have some chest beating contest. I think I’m sick of listening to this.

“They have their personal political agenda to smear the President regardless of the issue, the facts or reality.”
Au contraire, my dear – at least in my case. I wanted desperately to give him the respect that the Left never gave to President Bush. It is his policies and his behavior that have turned me against him – day by day.

GeneralJones is so full of it. If Obama is having a greater impact then why the hell was August the deadliest month?? Besides we all know the Bush administration goal was to wipe the terrorist,Janet Napolitano’s and Obamas goal is to fight”Man Made Disastors”

Obviously, someone in the WH, with the President’s knowledge, talked to Gen Jones about making public comments to counter Cheney’s interview remarks on Sunday.
It’s politics…like renaming the GWOT, refusing to call them ‘jihadists’, releasing Iranian terrorists in Iraq that killed our GI’s,and other such nonsense.

Typical Jake Trapper rubbish.

Geez, I’m a Dem and I don’t believe this for a second. Obama was voted in to stop the killing over seas, not out do Bush in randomly killing insurgents

Nobody is “indulging” democrats, because we happen to be the majority! It’s sickening, though, that “we” continue to indulge the fear-filled, yellow Right wing when they’re obviously only out for themselves. Continue to dish out the mindless, unsubstantiated insults at your own peril, because it just reflects how little actual thought you put into your daily life. Conservatives are cowards. They’re afraid to admit that the terrorists scared the heck out of them on 9/11, but it shows clearly in their knee-jerk reactions and impulse toward extreme measures. Try fighting against the terrorists, not with them.

We can safely say that 100% of the terrorist preferred obama over Bush any day of the week.

Republicans can be led to the truth, but they will not believe. Republicans can have facts proven to them, but they will call them lies. Republicans can be educated, but you would never know it with all the lies and hate that pours from them like venom and evil. God did punish America the whole time Bush was in office. Hopefully, now the Lord will forgive us and lead us forward. Our God is not a republican or a democrat. He knows the truth. Do any of you care about the truth?

Cheney thinks he is MacArthur to Obama’s Truman.

I cannot begin to imagine why anyone cares what Cheney says. He is very rich and that, and advancing the causes of corporate America, is all he has ever cared about. As for keeping America safe after 9/11,well, the terrorists wanted to destroy the American economy , and they did not succeed, but Bush and Cheney were great at reaching that goal. Bush/Cheney were the prefect poster children for recruitmen also. In addition, they destroyed the reputation of the US as an advancer of freedom by employing torture, and limiting the freedom of US citizens.Why was America “safe” from the terrorists after 9/11? Simple. The terrorists had Bush/Cheney accomplishing everything for them. They are not stupid. Why mess with perfection?

All in one 30 minute session of ABC Evening News….Jim Jones(where have I heard that name before?)National Security Advisor, toots his little horn that they are doing a better job than the last administration at quashing terrorism. Next segment,General Stanley McChrystal commander of troops in Afghanistan is going to request more troops because they are losing control of that country to the Taliban. I think little Jimmy just lost all credibility.Don’t ya think?

you can bet your last dollar that obama wouldn’t have touched terrorism with a ten foot pole if it hadn’t been for Bush forging the path. In fact if it hadn’t been for Bush pushing ahead on the war on terror obama would be a junior senator…. finishing his first term.

If Brown’s back room deal with Libya, Obama not giving a crap while Iran is funneling the same weapons that killed our troops in Iraq into Afghanistan, and the fact that terrorists in Pakistan are one overthrow away from acquiring nukes are making us safer then I would question their definition of the word safe. Also how do you credit the intelligence with making us safer in one breath and then seek to destroy them in the next, Jones must’ve learned how to talk out of both sides of his mouth from Obama.

This is a retired Marine General guys, not just some random partisan hack!! What does Cheney know?? He never even served in the military one day, and dodged service at all cost!! So are we now saying the man who served in the military many many years is wrong over Evil Master Cheney???? Gawd you know things are REALLY REALLY bad when people are THIS IGNORANT!!!

“NDSue – I don’t understand your reasoning. You are saying Obama is a failure at winning the war in Afganistan in his first six months in office while saying Bush did a better job of not winning the war in Afganistan in the seven years he was President. That is crazy!”
Mike – I didn’t mention anything about Afghanistan. Could you have been addressing another post?

“… In addition, they destroyed the reputation of the US as an advancer of freedom by employing torture, and limiting the freedom of US citizens.”
Posted by: Laurel1181
Hey Laurel1181: go tell the people of Afghan (who recently voted again) that America, as led by Bush, let them down when fighting for their right to vote for representative powers for the first time in the history of their country. Oh wait, they have voted 3 times since 9-11 for poliical representation. That’s more than in the 5,000 history of their land! Idiot. The rest of your post is DNC bullet point nonsense not worth responding to.

They took the bait. Cheney on guard.

It’s interesting to me that people who wouldn’t give a military guy the time of day love to have one on their side. Problem is they still don’t know what they’re talking about. I worked for Jones at NATO. He’s just another politician – just like every other flag officer.

It’s like Calculus, but different.

General is a patriot and a true American.

“to discuss things with other rulers”
I didn’t know the big O was my ruler. I thought he was just another bad liberal president.

Eat your heart out, Cheney. Oops! Cheney has a bad heart—I forgot.

Gen. James is hired help. He may be highly competent commander but he was given the script. Barry is too busy with golf and health care to be concerned about the troops or the what is it? I thought the war on terror was forbidden. Apparently diplomacy is the key to success.I rather doubt it.
Longdrycreek Ranch
Texas Panhandle

“Barry is too busy with golf and health care to be concerned about the troops”
Lie.

Just remember Somalia and how Clinton screwed the pooch there. And of course Jimmy Carter in Iran…these Dems can’t fight a war…they can’t tie their own shoes. That Moron Carter is still trying to create a legacy other than his nut job brother and his misery index. ALl obaqma can do is vacation..he’s a jerk thug from Chicago stealing our money.

“… In addition, they destroyed the reputation of the US as an advancer of freedom by employing torture, and limiting the freedom of US citizens.”
Posted by: Laurel1181
Laurel, the Russians stated that when they were fighting and losing in Afghanistan one technique that was used on their soldiers was they were tied hanging to a tree, the Afghans would slit the skin from the neck to the stomach and literally peel back the flesh forcing the still alive soldier to bake in the sun and be eaten by the insects! NOW, do you still want to talk about OUR torture techniques?

they a bunch of bull. Afghanistan is a lost cause, the head of the joint chiefs, mike mullen said that.
anyone who believes this and the rep/dem nonsense belongs to the sucker party.

This is to Jake Tapper; did you notice Jones said “. . . President Obama has taken the leadership on it and is approaching it in a slightly different way – actually a radically different way – to discuss things with other rulers . . .” and “. . .a law enforcement agency — whether it is the police or FBI or CIA …”?
Obama isn’t a ruler, at least not the last time I checked, the USA is still a democracy and we don’t have rulers. And, since when did the CIA become a law enforcement agency?
Why don’t you push Jones on some specifics and find out if the guy’s comptetent to hold that position?

I am glad they are killing terrorist, but I don’t see this as a contest to out do Bush.

42%…42%…42%…
Extraordinary.

President Obama is the second coming of Jimmy Carter.

does he know them? just curious.

@Robert: how many terrorists did we upset and torture? Do you know? Because the info that has been released to date indicates we have tortured…hold on…3. I bet you were thinking it was hundreds, right? And one of them was Kalhadi Sheik Muhamad, you know the 9-11 mastermind. You’d probably be upset if we tortured OBL wouldn’t you?

Birds of the feather flock together. Obama is doing what terrorist have been trying to do for 30 years to America, trying to destroy it. But he under estimate America as most terrorist do!!! ONE and DONE!!!!

So the “world” wasn’t interested in fighting the threat to the “world” while Bush was prez…but with Obama as prez the “world” cares again about self preservation. Thanks for clearing that up, General Jones. Now if only the imaginary help would materialize in Afghanistan… And when did the CIA become a law enforcement agency?

I tell ya all, its totally embarrassing that this White House has to stop every 5 mins and act like some 6 year old child blaming the former administration. Totally unprofessional and basically what they are saying is they can’t handle the job and here is our never ending excuse for why we are failing! No backbone, no resolve, no guts…that’s the qualifications of the Obama administration. Perhaps if Obama tried apologizing to Afghanistan first! Well we could have had a 72 year old man who at least knew what to do with a military but nooooo, the ladies wanted to elect a community organizer instead. Well don’t cry to hard when your sons and daughters go to Afghanistan! And remember, BUSH didn’t get involved there because he knew NOBODY ever stood a chance against Afghanistan on their home land!

Good, does this mean we get to investigate Joe Biden, all of his advisors and the Czars that have been appointed without constitutional authorization?
Thanks

42% and falling…
How soon can we get rid of the clunker in the white House?

Perhaps id Obama mobilized All the members of ACORN to Afghanistan so they could form a human shield for our troops to get behind! Hmmmmm, that might work!

Duh, of course Obama is doing more, conservatives just don’t get that ‘terrorist = middle america’.
Posted by: RE |
Don’t forget seniors on Medicare. They are terrorists too.

Regarding Afghanistan – it is not possible to “win” there. We may engage in the latest fad in counterinsurgency, attempt to avenge 9/11, and get a lot of good soldiers and Marines killed, but at the end of the day, we will leave the field to the wild people of Afghanistan-Pakistan. What worked in Iraq will not work in a place that could care less about central government, democracy, or whatever we Americans want. These are the wildest people in the world. The will back “the strongest tribe”. They know that we will leave, and they can go back to growing opium poppies and fighting amongst themselves. We are not savage enough to exterminate them (Jesus, we can’t even slap one), so , they will prevail. Our punitive expedition has run long enough. Good job guys, we wacked a lot of ‘em, and we can always come back and wack more.

I hope the White House is not referring to folks like me… If they are not, it seems as though “taking out” the bad guys is a bit like a testosterone policy discussion, as though the present administration is adamant about at least appearing to be the toughest guy on the block, while preparing lawsuits to bring the former tough guys “to justice”. What a curious group. But, alas, I am sure the world that didn’t like America last year feels a lot better about us now. Man, am I relieved!!

“Regarding Afghanistan – it is not possible to “win” there. We may engage in the latest fad in counterinsurgency, attempt to avenge 9/11, and get a lot of good soldiers and Marines killed, but at the end of the day, we will leave the field to the wild people of Afghanistan-Pakistan.”
I believe you may be right Dan.

ceeLeelee | Aug 31, 2009 10:30:40 PM How soon can we get rid of the clunker in the white House?++++I just hope he comes with some sort of rebate.

Remember the throngs of fresh-faced, apple-cheeked youngsters who showed up to roar their approval at every Obama rally? Anybody wonder where they are now? Any of them showing up at townhalls in support of Obamacare?
Are the left-wingers a tad bit troubled by this?
This is going to be great…
42%

Allow me to translate:
“The guy who pays my salary is doing a better job than the guy who didn’t.”
What did you expect him to say?

===“This type of radical fundamentalism or terrorism is a threat not only to the United States but to the global community,”===
Jones is going to get into trouble…he called them terrorists…not man made disasterists…

But now that their power has been removed the CIA now must collect information from terror suspects by threatening to show them pictures of Nancy Pelosi in a string bikini!
Posted by: bz |
Now THAT is torture.

He saved economy. He saved millions of jobs. He saved banking system. He saved GM and Chrisler. He… he….. he….. And now he is a spy-in chief who got more terrosrist in 7 month then the entire CIA in the previous 8 years. O God Obama, o mersiful…….

Oh please. The right invented name calling during Bush, and they’re completley void of facts lately as all they speak is spin off of Fox.

Sandy | Aug 31, 2009 10:42:36 PM Well, Democrats = communists/marxists in this new administration. How else do you explain that Obama appointed Van Jones, a former black panther and a self-avowed communist, to serve as energy czar? +++++++I was reading up on that guy. He has a serious criminal record and is just plain scary.Bo slid that one right on by.Got to love that change and transparency.

LOL…ABC and this guy are bought and paid for by the Marxists in the White House….NBC too!

Let me get this straight. They say they’re having more success in capturing terrorists and killing terrorist leaders than Bush did. Did I miss the news for those captures and kills? I must have because I haven’t seen diddly about it from any news source. In fact the only thing coming out of the news is the casualty list and the need for more troops. Nothing about how we suddenly captured or killed a leading terrorist or captured an insane number of terrorists at all.

The NSA advisor should be tried for treason

This is why I come to ABC news. The comments here are just hilarious!

As usual, the far right responds by sliming a Marine. The top two tactics of the far right: attack and play the victim.

It sounds great that they are capturing more terrorists, but where are they keeping them, the Bahamas,Ritz Carlton?
I know it’s not Guantanamo; he’s closing that down. Where-o-where?

Ruler: a person or thing that rules or governs, as a SOVEREIGN.
Sovereign: The chief of state in a monarchy; a king or queen.

Gerry: the answer to “where o where” is Bagram Air Force base.
It probably wasn’t a serious question, but just in case it was I thought I’d answer.

Chris……. you sure did miss the “News”. At least 2 times a month, a primary Terrorist bigwig is captured or mainly killed. Cheney is defending his criminal acts and really appeared to be hyperventilating in the interview. Thieves and liars almost always do this.

Besides the “revving of a power drill” and the “second hand smoke” techniques the CIA used there were some more lesser known ways to extract information from suspects. In order to increase their stress levels terror suspects were forced to take high school math tests they weren’t prepared for! They were also forced to attend high school reunions in their underwear! And forcer to take endless SAT’s using timers that ran fast! Finally those that didn’t talk were forced to watch 50 non-stop hours of the Golden Girls!

Cheney is defending his criminal acts and really appeared to be hyperventilating in the interview. Thieves and liars almost always do this.
Posted by: sara | Aug 31, 2009 11:06:34 PM
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Is that why Obama has to breath into a paper bag?

To: Fascist Hyena
“Are the left-wingers a tad bit troubled by this?”
Yes, they are a little troubled by the craziness going on on your end of the spectrum, but willing to listen if you can offer valid points instead of talking points.

Cheney has got a lot of nerve finger pointing at other people for not protecting America when 9/11 happened on his watch.
Too bad he couldn’t have delivered protection when it was needed, and not just bragged about it when it was too late.

Can someone please tell me what big terrorist suspect has been captured and tried and actually convicted of anything in this Administration? ABC obviously hasn’t reported this or is it a secret. I love such a long article that says absolutely nothing and yet makes it sound like great things are being done. Just like the health bill. I wonder if the obscure statements about terrorism that this Marine has made can be verified anywhere by ABC. Oh yes that would be reporting wouldn’t it. Not just fairytales from the deep.

I believe a guy who’s seen the intelligence over Cheney who hasn’t, and has been caught in so many lies that no one trusts him anyway.
Cheney says America is less safe. Proof? Put up or shut up. Are you as sure of this as you are that “we know there are links between Saddam and Al Qaeda”?
We’re waiting. In the meantime, I’ll put my trust in the armed forces and not some beaurocrat who said he didn’t do his duty during Vietnam because he had “more important priorities”.

I have slept easier knowing that bush and cheney are gone. The past 8 years were almost like a nightmare for most. That’s probably why voters have been throwing republicans out of office as fast as the election process will allow. Clinging to a failed ideology doesn’t sit well with voters. If I were a republican politician I would be an independent about now.

what planet is jones on? obama admin doesn’t even talk about terrorists- yet alone taking out terrorists. this jones is a real hack! another obama admin liar and deciever. jones is a disgrace to the military- with his lies.

No they were KILLED! Please don’t ask me their names, all of them sound alike. But I watch, read and listens to mainstream news everyday….quietly.

The right attacked Petraeus the same way for saying that torture (not the PC word “enhanced interrogation techniques”, but torture) hurt national security.
Why so many people want to defend Cheney the draft dodger is beyond me.

I believe a guy who’s seen the intelligence over Cheney who hasn’t, and has been caught in so many lies that no one trusts him anyway.
Cheney says America is less safe. Proof? Put up or shut up. Are you as sure of this as you are that “we know there are links between Saddam and Al Qaeda”?
We’re waiting. In the meantime, I’ll put my trust in the armed forces and not some beaurocrat who said he didn’t do his duty during Vietnam because he had “more important priorities”.
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Cheney got it wrong (or lied) on the weapons of mass destruction as well.
Not trustworthy.

bz…..No that’s why Cheney was hyperventilating…….that’s what liars, thieves and criminals do.

So with no numbers he says that Obama is more successful against terrorists. There’s no proof so what’s the point in an Obama appointed person saying Obama’s doing better?

“Do you remember the arrogant stupidity of Bush saying “bring ‘em on” when our sons and daughters were fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?”
True.

Hey abc,
Jones is another American apologist,political appointed hack. Our guys/gals are getting killed and this administration is AWOL.
Link it to HuffPo….they’ll buy this garbage the rest of us see it for what it is hype and spin.

OT and respectfully…..
Where are the jobs Mr. President?
Correction: Where are any jobs at all Mr. President?
Posted by: Tina Ferrer’ | Aug 31, 2009 9:17:32 PM
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All the jobs that Obama has to create after returning to the employment levels at the beginning of his administration is 1 (ONE) to create more than Bush did in 8 years.

“You might hate it, but Bush kept this country safe and the military loved him.”
9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Iraq was an unnecessary attack that killed tens of thousands and thousands of our own. And please don’t presume to speak for ‘the military’.

Jones sounds pretty defensive. As an American I’m delighted enhanced interrogation was used. If Jones doesn’t like it he can believe whatever he wants but we’ll be less safe as a nation. The problem however, is this: it’s not an academic debate. If Jones and Obama are wrong, and I believe they are, thousands of innocent people are going to get hurt.

When this quack provides a list of names I will believe him.
Until then, he is a liar who cannot prove what he says.

He is most definitely a political hack. That’s why he was hired by the Obama admin. Most generals would not have spoken like that. If one studies his face in the clip above, it seems that he is not as serious as one would expect. It sounds like he is trying to save Obama’s neck from Cheney’s accusations.

ABC “news” is the lap dog ,propaganda arm of the Obama White House. I DARE anyone to challenge that

Its funny how whenever someone tries to find or reveal any kind of truth, the Republicans start shouting “SOLDIERS! ARMY! MARINES! AIR FORCE! YOU ARE KILLING THEM”… Thats basically their excuse for everything… Foreign policy, domestic policy, even economics.
If you wanna help the Soldiers then get off your behind and take their place in the Army so they can come back home and see their families… Dont give me the crap about “I support them with my tongue”… Whats your tongue gonna do when he loses his leg to a roadside bomb? Nothing.
“I wanna protect my country, so I’ll send other people to do the job for me!”… Yea… Shutup…

Jones gets paid to invent for the White house and is not to be trusted any more than anyone else in politics. Look up Michael Yon if you want any truth, he reports from Afghanistan every other day and is embedded in actual combat. He has no chip in the game and is not whitewashing anything.

One 9/11 isn’t enough for Cheney. There was a guy on the Glenn Beck show who said “the best thing that could happen to this country would be for Osama bin Laden to deploy a major weapon inside the United States.”
It’s sick.

I was reviewing articles this morning dating from 2001 that contain the phrase, “progress in Afghanistan” and marveling at their number. Turns out the Soviets made lots of progress as well. Obama will perpetuate the path of his predecessors and we’ll have endless war, they’ll call it progress.

“I was reviewing articles this morning dating from 2001 that contain the phrase, “progress in Afghanistan” and marveling at their number. Turns out the Soviets made lots of progress as well.”
I have the same concerns zeroer.

I hope he’s right.
I absolutely hope he is right.

He’s not smart enough to ask Bush/Cheney for advice.
Posted by: drcusmc | Aug 31, 2009 10:36:40 PM
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Slight misconception on your part – He is TOO smart to ask Bush/Cheney for advice.

How absolutely funny! The conservatives here are just writhing with indignation and rage that diplomacy (instead of wars, torturing people, fear mongering and Republican lying) is what really works in the world! All any of you can bother to say is “but, but, but it can’t be true!” Read it and weep!

Nearly every country in the world has flipped Obama off, Great Britain being the most recent and his national security adviser lies to us and tells us we’re safe because everyone loves Obama? As what? A doormat?

So Obama is having greater success taking down terrorists.
Is he starting to fire the hand picked communists he appointed to his cabinet.
Or is he doing us all a favor and resigning.

If Obama is having better success…could it be because the media is not hounding and second-guessing him every minute? Maybe because they aren’t “exposing” programs before they can be used? Odd that there has been NO media criticism of drone strikes and “civilian” casualties.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.
The majority of politicians in America are forgetting what and who it is they are representing. The President included. If this administration is “capturing” and/or “killing” more terrorists than the Bush administration, why in the heck is it, that more and more troops (not just American) are dying? This year has been the bloodiest year ever in Afghanistan. What does it matter if we kill more terrorists? What does it gain us, but more and more terrorists?
We’re on “their” homeland, not ours. How would you react if a nation bombed your family attempting to get terrorists?
Would you be able to forgive?
Some people will not, or can not be stopped. Innocent lives have been lost and families torn apart – On both sides of the fence.
America is the leading country in the world. We are setting an example for the rest of the world. How many counties do you want to follow in our footsteps?
I’m not against wars fought for the right reasons. But what started as a war to kill the terrorists and make a point to the world not to **** with America turned into a disaster.
As for the financial toll, we’re already trillions in the hole with the national debt rising tremendously. I hate to say it, but Obama is flashing the “bling”.
Chew on that for awhile people!

Afghanistan: Obama’s Vietnam. No, I mean Bush’s Vietnam. No…that doesn’t make sense. Vietnam was Nixon, no, I mean…LBJ, oh no, I mean JFK. That’s right JFK. What a war monger. JFK fought the Communists and tried to save the people of North Vietnam. Tell me what the difference is between Vietnam, Cuba, and Iraq, Afghanistan? Oh, I know, Barry is a Communist.

Scott wrote:
Hey Obama voters, would you like to have a do-over?
The country will not look the same after 4 years of this administration.
I sure as H**L hope it’s different. I voted for change – like the rule of law – that’s just one.

ABC news is in the Tank with the O-administration. Can’t believe anything that you read from them. FAIR AND HONEST JOURNALISM PLEASE!!!!!

I would gladly stand alone against this man and his spectacularly ill-advised policies. But I confess to great satisfaction that the majority of the people in our great nation now agree with me.
What we need to do now is hold the line until we can remove him from office as we did withe hapless Carter. And we will. Oh yes, we surely will.

All the bunk about the Bush and Cheney administration kept us safe since 9/11 is pure crap.
It shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Bush is an idiot and Cheney is an alien. Both need to be behind bars for life!

When you fight a war you are not “nicer” then the enemy. You go all out and win the battle. No pussey footing around with talks and make nice speechs. The Geneva convention never saved one American from being tortured.If pouring water on someone’s face or shooting a weapon off in another room gets results then go for it. It is still much better then what the enemy does, beheading and things that made you sick to think about. Come on America shed those yellow strips and get some guts. Our forefathers would never have put up with this and we shouldn’t either. God Bless America and our troops

Come on America shed those yellow strips and get some guts. Posted by: Stormey
and in which branch of the military did you serve?

What “IndependentVoter” meant to say was: “I prefer my news from a network that lies to me but tells me that it’s fair and balanced.”

The fact that this was already investigated by career prosecutors in the justice department and nothing ever came of it seems to also not get mentione Posted by: Jac
oh yeah…. Bushies investigating Bush..
sure .. case closed……

Can anyone spell ‘Socialism’? The total democrat party is in the process of dismantling our country! All who voted for Obama wanted ‘change’. Well, you should have been more specific. Change for the better, or change for the worse? I am 67 yrs. of age and I don’t remember any time in my life where I feared for us all. I think we have Jimmy Carter again. The worst problem is that the country elected the Congress as well as Obama, and now there are no checks or balances. You wanted rid of ‘Bush’, so now you have it! Heaven help us all.

Ha…Ha …Ha..Bush did this and Bush did that…Whaaaaaaa

No presidency in our history has ever failed this fast. An amazing phenomenon, and a joy to behold.

Posted by: NDSue
you might have a point, IF…..
your Republican geniuses hadn’t mistakenly invaded Iraq, bankrupted America, missed Sept 11th, missed Katrina, did’nt get (‘wanted dead or alive’) Bin Laden, oh what’s the use, you’ve already forgotten the last 8 years haven’t you?

Well, I was going to comment about ABC and the Obama administration making up another story about how wonderful the messiah is, but you guys got it covered. Guess the propaganda isn’t working. Say, is ABC still in business?

funny thing is that Cheney admits that people broke he law, and he doesn’t care, that’s republican ‘justice’ for you….
can’t wait to see what the new docs will show about the last 8 years…… the louder they get, the more fear they show….. bring it on… investigations , a tasty treat

Wow…this guy is reaching to try to back Obama. This report is laughable.

“The world is coming together”? Our country is being torn apart like never before.

I don’t understand why everyone keeps yelling “Socialism!” Are we, as a people, THAT brainwashed? We have had socialism for many years. No country on this earth operates a fully capitalistic system. Our blend of socialism/capitalism is similar to many other countries as well. I can keep rambling on, but the point is that before we start yelling random words to inspire fear, maybe we should understand what we are actually yelling about…
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Good points Josh.

The term ‘socialism’ keeps coming up — but ‘true socialism’ is where noone owns title to anything except a select few. The common people have to share an equal share. I certainly would agree to sharing $5 from my paycheck to help a fellow American down the street keep health care, instead of being turned away from the emergency room, while I can still choose if I want an HMO or traditional medical plan from my employer. No way this country will become ‘socialist’ unless those patriots that say all terrorists need to be tortured now classify someone like me as a terrorist because I am opposed to torture, and legally could torture me. That is a never ending spiral downward.

gen7sw,
If only it would cost us $5 from our paycheck. No one is planning to torture you. Enough with the liberal fear tactics!

Obama killed Betalluh Massud. The leader of the Pakistan wing of the Taliban. The man who claimed responsibility for killing Benazir Bhutto. That is success defined. Betalluh Massud could have toppled the Pakistan government, and now he is dead.

Funny thing is Cheney is out there on an island. The only public supporter he has is Lizzy Borden. Maybe Cheney should take up residence with Mark Sanford. These guys are digging holes deep enough for themselves that burying them is only going to be a matter of kicking a little dirt in on top of them. Cheney is a sadist, poor excuse for a human being. He’s trained his daughter to lie at all costs and never accept responsibility. A great man he is.

The point is that all of us are operating out of our own silos. The far left is in their own echo chamber, as is the far right.
The media are not telling the truth, because they are suppressing information that doesn’t fit their agenda. All of the hundreds of posts are just talking past one another, and no one is changing any minds.
The good news, from what I can see here, is that no one has made vile racist statements, and no one has called those who disagree with Obama’s policies a racist. Maybe progress is being made, after all.

The worst thing about the internet is that it gives idiot malcontent racist mouthbreathers a forum. Gin up that hate! Take the country down…
Posted by: beproductive |
Do you not see the irony in your post?

mental he’s was never there?
Who’s mental capacity are you questioning?
Posted by: Charlie C |
I’m thinking it somehow depends on what the meaning of is is.

When I make one, I’ll fess up!

After the successful attacks in Spain, London, India, Pakistan, Iraq, Afgahnistan, Indonesia and the Sudan, with attempts in Saudi. How can anyone argue that no further attacks were ever expected on the US? Even after the release of CIA documented confessions by KSM that they planed attacks that would release anthrax in US population centers that was broken up.
What fantasy world are they living in that reality never enters????

Hobbs — If your questioning General Jones Honor your making a lot of enemys. No better man ever Served his Country. We would follow this man thru hell and back. Many of us have.

The world is coming together now that The Great one has taken leadership on this means that the world was holding back while Bush was running thing maybe cause our congress was making back door deals? No they wouldn’t undermind Bush while he was the Pres (IE saying the war is lost), like they say now that underminding the Pres (IE Like wanting Obama to Fail) is rube & selfish, Who was that who wants a paper to Fail? Reid I think? No the dem’s wouldn’t do that.

Posted by: zeroer | Aug 31, 2009 11:41:43 PM
I was reviewing articles this morning dating from 2001 that contain the phrase, “progress in Afghanistan” and marveling at their number. Turns out the Soviets made lots of progress as well. Obama will perpetuate the path of his predecessors and we’ll have endless war, they’ll call it progress.
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This is exactly why we didn’t go in to Afghanistan with guns blazing from the start, we would have lost, thousands of soldiers and trillions of dollars. It was a smart decision made by the military after seeing what happened to Russia.
The argument that should have been made was that the only thing that will keep us safe is freedom in the middle east and this is exactly what the Bush doctrine proposed. He should have never tried to use the WMD in his argument because that was never the real reason we invaded Iraq, the goals were much broader. Sorry to those that don’t understand that.
A band aid approach will not work, cutting and running will not work. Installing another puppet govt. will not work. This is a long term effort and it might not happen in our lifetime but it is finally the right approach.
Only liberty promotes far-reaching and lasting peace.

Let me get this right, It is better to “Take them out” and kill them then it is to capture them and interogate them. In one case the continue living and one the die.
Which should we investigate, Mr Holder.

It seems that before Obama came along everything was going wrong in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now that the great leader is here everything is going right for a change. The US has come a long way in determining right from wrong and good from bad. From where I sit, I would say Bush had it right all the way. The media gave Bush one hell of a belting and now praise Obama for what?

Posted by: gen7sw | Sep 1, 2009 1:39:30 AM
And that is why Bush took a different course, it was beyond the old ways of doing business, ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ type of thinking.
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‘America identified the lack of freedom in the Middle East as a principal cause of the threats coming from the region. We concluded that if the region continued on the path it was headed — if another generation grew up with no hope for the future, and no outlet to express its views — the Middle East would continue to simmer in resentment and export violence.
To stop this from happening, we resolved to help the region steer itself toward a better course of freedom and dignity and hope. We’re engaged in a battle with the extremists that is broader than a military conflict, and broader than a law enforcement operation. We are engaged in an ideological struggle. And to advance our security interests and moral interests, America is working to advance freedom and democracy as the great alternatives to repression and terror.
As part of this effort, we’re pressing nations across the region — including our friends — to trust their people with greater freedom of speech, and worship, and assembly. We’re giving strong support to young democracies. We’re standing with reformers, and dissidents, and human rights activists across the region. Through new efforts like the Middle East Peace Partnership Initiative and the Broader Middle East and North Africa Initiative, we’re supporting the rise of vibrant civil societies.
We’re also advancing a broader vision that includes economic prosperity, quality health care and education, and women’s rights.’ G.W. Bush
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I repeat.
Only liberty promotes far-reaching and lasting peace.

OK, go back further. Recall the documentary that showed a younger Rumsfeld walking across the stage and shaking the hand of a younger Sadam?? WHY? Because we were building up Iraq’s military to aid their defences against Iran. So the Iraqi’s forgot? OR . . . WE forgot? OR . . .

Posted by: gen7sw
We could have done the same thing again, went in to Saddam and made another back door shady deal, which he wouldn’t have kept or we wouldn’t have kept, all in the name of saying we are going to work together to end terrorism and nothing would ever change. You can see the beginnings of change though, one word of encouragement and Iran could fall, then a domino effect across the whole region. The way I see it, we can either fight there for infinity or we can support a true solution and in my opinion the answer is freedom. Same for Africa, I would invade there too if it was possible.

Posted by: gen7sw
You have a point, we can’t babysit the Iraqi’s forever either, I understand that. They could choose to live in the old ways. Democracy has to be nurtured and protected no matter where it is, even here.

It seems in America, some people just don’t want peace; they crave war/attacks and ultimately benefit from them! Isn’t so disgusting?

Can anyone name one thing Obama has done right since taking office? Can anyone name one real success? Please, make a list.

Not a matter of left/right, Dem/Rep – Obama’s Dept. of Homeland Security considers our own troops potential terrorists. In Afghanistan, this has been our deadliest year yet. Seems to me Obama is hell-bent on destroying our country in every way possible. As for giving Credit to Obama for anything, he can’t keep his word on anything. Everything he promised his own party were lies. So, he deserves credit for stabbing his own people in the back and being so charming they still love him. That is smooth. Heh.

So funny, “we are doing better…because I think so”. What a crock. Why is the press, ABCNEWS, giving Obama such a pass on the military deaths? Remember how the numbers were discussed daily when Bush was in office? August 2009 has already had more deaths than any month since the war on terror began. Why? And why are the press and the same people who were jumping up and down a year ago being so quiet? Was it the actual deaths of our soldiers or that Bush was commander in chief? Where is the commander in chief now? I havent heard a word out of him about the amount of deaths that we have incurred.

Sorry Mr. Jones. I feel way more threatened since Mr. Obama took office. I personally think hs is a coward, a wimp, and with no testicular fortitude. I think that I would trust the sissie from school more than Mr. Obama. I’m sorry that the administration has you so buffalowed, what is it the power, money, greed? Mr. Jones I’m sorry to laugh a you but your not very convincing

Obama’s use of the interrogation investigation to draw attention away from his plummeting popularity is straight out of the Clinton White House playbook, except this is more damaging, because it will basically neuter the CIA and undermine the war on terror!!

Jones is little more than a shameless political hack…that is why he can not provide any facts and figures to back up his baseless claim that Obama is more effective than Bush was in the war on terror!! The mere fact that the Obama administration has banned the use of terms like “war on terror” and “jihad” clearly demonstrates how much they are shackled by their own political correctness…

Had the events of September 11, 2001 occurred prior to Bush having taken office, I would have had no doubt that this catastrophe occurred exactly as it appeared and, further, I would have found any conspiracy theory the invention of the mentally ill. However, given the overall conduct of the George W. Bush and his administration during their tenure, I, like millions of other Americans, am absolutely convinced that there is far more to the story then we are likely to ever know.
Most conspiracy theorists base the reasons for their theories on the assumption that a small and powerful group staged those events to once again impose tyranny on the American people as a whole. Indeed, the extraordinary conduct of George W. Bush and his administration did actually transpire and, with all due respect to Mr. Bush, he has simply never exhibited the intellectual or mental faculties necessary to have achieved such result on his own.
There are billions of dollars that have been stolen from the American people which will seemingly never be accounted for. Virtually every American lost the majority of their life savings to some mysterious and unknown culprit(s). We all still ask, “Where’s the money now?”
During the Bush administration, the country was flooded with cheap labor as the Mexican border was seemingly busted wide open and our government at the time refused to enforce any of our immigration laws. Moreover, virtually every public American corporation during the Bush administration was sued by American stockholders during that period because the boards of directors of those corporations intentionally lied with respect to their earnings so as to inflate stock prices. The stock market then crashed and here we are, all stupefied. Again, the Bush administration and his then U.S. Attorney refused to prosecute and few if any of those directors ever paid a penalty. In fact, most of them are now taking stimulus money, which would appear further insult to injury.
Viewed empirically, the motives of tyranny being imposed on the American people, at least, become far more likely and certainly more believable now, because none of what happened to the American economy could have been possible had it not been for the events of 9/11/01 and most of us are clearly now far more dependent on our government then any of us would have ever fathomed.
Tom Ridge, the Director of Homeland Security during the Bush administration, has now basically testified that the lowering and raising of the terrorist threat levels during that time were purely political. It is, indeed, a fact that Bush’s popularity ratings shot up big after each scare. This in itself would normally be sufficient to indict Bush and those who participated for domestic terrorism. That has not happened, nor does it appear even remotely likely at the moment. However, if such indictments were to occur and subpoena power implemented, there is no doubt that more of the truth would surface.
Being an American citizen, in itself, imposes a duty on each of us to insist on learning the truth. The inconsistencies and secrecy from our own government regarding these events are clearly and extremely disturbing. The United States Internal Revenue Service and national bank records would, under normal circumstances, offer much information on where the money went. However, most American banks have now gone under. Given this, it would now appear impossible to ever know for sure. Either way, it appears to be a colossal and absolutely perfect crime and every American, except those who participated, appear to have been duped and are truly victims. As such, I would think we should want to know and insist on a valid investigation, as it is now also well-settled that the 9/11 Commission Report was grossly flawed and the product of the same persons and entities who are now suspect.
We could all still ask, however, that even if the truth were to actually surface, what good would really come of it? Who would be prosecuted? How would America be recompensed? Could America ever recover from the humiliation of having allowed it to ever happen in the first place? The fact remains that most Americans will need to start from scratch. The life’s work and savings of the average American has been obliterated forever. It is truly sad and quite defeatist to let it ride and ask no questions. Further, a mere few million Americans asking such questions will not do it–ALL Americans would need to step up to the plate.
“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated.”
Thomas Paine
The American Crisis
Common Sense
December 23, 1776

Bwhahahahahahahahaha!!! Obama and friends the comedians. They are good for one thing…a good laugh.

Obama treats Americans like the enemy.
The Bush/Cheney haters cannot see
through their hate.

Ferrari5858,
What an idiotic thing to say.
We don’t kill our daughters for
wearing bluejeans.

I am a service connected disabled Vet and the son of a Korean Was Vet. Why are military personnel in rison for “mistreating” prisoners in Iraq. When politicians who ordered the torture of prisoners are walking the streets. What a slap in the face to every man or woman who has worn a uniform. Once again the politicos treat the military as 2nd class citizens.

I know these facts are hard to swallow.
Supreme Court in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, reaffirm that Geneva Conventions apply to W.O.T. detainees.
UN Convention Against Torture (1988 Reagan)…
Article 1:
1. ”…torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed…”
Article 2
2. “No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.”
The debate on torture efficacy ended when these international treaties were signed and codified in U.S. law. The “opinion” of partisans has no merit or weight in determining the value of torture as a “policy preference.

I still don’t understand how men and women claiming to be patriotic Americans can say that it’s ok to torture another person as long as they aren’t Americans or American allies.
Don’t you people realize that we’re fighting a war AGAINST terror?
Our belief in the necessity of guaranteeing basic human rights is what makes us better than terrorists, remember?
We hate them because they do bad things to people, like imprisoning them indefinitely (that means for as long as we want) without proof of due cause (you know,without any evidence that they’ve done something wrong?), or punishing them for “crimes committed against the state” without a trial- you know, that thing the government has to let us have before they can put us in jail or give us the death penalty?
That is why we hate the terrorists, right? Because they do those things to people?
And they torture people- torture-infliction of great pain and agony- a method used to inspire fear (might I say terror?) in a person to cause them to do as they are asked?
Isn’t this why we hate them?
So how can any true American support torture, for anyone? Would you become what you hate? Would you persecute, punish, torment, and destroy men and women and their families to support what you believe in?
Because if you would, you might as well go over there and join them, we don’t need you here.
Bush and his followers should be prosecuted for war crimes and crimes against humanity, and treason. They’ve smeared blood all over our constitution and put our own freedoms here in jeopardy. Particularly Cheney, he’s smarter than Bush and had more influence. If we let them get away with it in public, they’ll want to get away with it at home.
Anyone, regardless of their political party associations, should receive the same treatment. If Obama felt the need to continue in the Cheney tradition, I’d think he was a damned traitor, too. And I’ll think he’s a coward if he doesn’t go after the two who commanded the CIA.
I’d hate to invoke Godwin’s Law, but slaughtering thousands for the cause of a political agenda is the case here.
It’s like Nuremburg- you get the guys who did as they were told, and the guys that told them to do it.

THOMAS
Terrorists hated us because of our abilities to contradict ourseleves and double standards, we say we stand for democracy and will of the people and yet we support Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudia Arabia, we interfere in their internal affairs on a daily basis and the fact that we have been directly and directly responsible for deaths in their countries. We need to start calling a spade a spade and stop all the hypocrisy. After 9/11 we flew the family of the Saud out, Bush had briefings pre 9/11 and did nothing. The power of oil has meant that we are loosing our morals and principles and these terrorists see through our so called moral high ground.

Terry Moore:
so you think Obama is worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis…. WW2, .. just to name a few
hmmmmm
You forgot WWI and Vietnam and Korea.
WWI and II: When did Germany attack the US? Korea and ‘Nam same thing. We were never attacked but decided to get involved anyway. All under democrat Presidents.

THIS CLAIM WOULD BE A HECK OF A LOT MORE CREDIBLE IF IT WERE ISSUED AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF NO TERRORIST ATTACKS ON OUR HOMELAND – AS WE HAD UNDER BUSH. MORE GOBBLEDEGOOK TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM OBAMA’S FALLING APPROVAL NUMBERS. OBAMA’S ATTACKS ON BUSH ARE GETTING A LITTLE OLD, NO? DUH.

I’m surprised and disappointed that Gen. Jones was a Marine making these comments which are really sad and politically charged. If it wasn’t for the fact that he sold his soul, I’d say he should be ashamed.

National Security Adviser, Gen. Jim Jones (Ret.) could tell us water runs uphill and pigs fly and that would not be true either. Oh these fools who sell their souls for fleeting glory-sad.
“”And what have you done in comparison to guarantee our liberty?”"
Infantry officer US Army? (Ranger/Airborne/taught US Army Infantry School Fort Benning/taught The US Army War College, Carlisle Barracks?) We thank Gen. Jim Jones for his service and are baffled by this ridiculous statement and so it the man with a bad leg who never got to serve. What have you done?

Re: “…the president’s National Security Adviser, Gen. Jim Jones (Ret.), told ABC News in an exclusive interview that actually the reverse is true: President Obama’s greater success with international relations has meant more terrorists put out of commission.”
WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME ONE SUCCESS PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS HAD PUTTING ONE SINGLE TERRORIST OUT OF COMMISSION??? GENERAL, GIVE A TERRORIST NAME!
IF HE HAS PUT ONE TERRORIST OUT OF BUSINESS IT MUST BE A NATIONAL SECRET…
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Obama having better success against terrorism than Bush? Yea right, when pigs fly! This is absurd.
Obama doesn’t even want to call our war against terror a “war against terrorism”. But when the present adminstration’s approval ratings are now at 46% and falling, I suppose you get desperate.

The Real Issues My Fellow Americans in fighting terrorism is how we fight it. Terrorism is war and politics. It is the politics of fear. America has to handle it both ways/ by war and politics. Bush/Cheney handled it by War and fear. The world is beyond that now. We have to handle this by war and the politics of negotiation. This is the era of President Obama who with his leadership will handle this crises with tact and negotiations. Cowboy diplomacy like Cheney promotes will not work now. The politics of fear does not mean anything to anyone but terrorist. Americans must go on with their lives in a cautious careful manner but must remain diligent and mindful of the dangers and deal with them. (i.e. Proper security/ utilizes forces when necessary/ train forces to take out terrorist camps/ promote democracy or independent government in other countries, etc. We are a global society that is interconnected through economics and politics. America is the leader and we must promote our leadership in a way that is an example to the rest of the world.

Amazing how some lies by Democrats just keep turning into more lies. The only thing that can stop it is our vote next year.

How can they say that when the biggest terrorist regarding American values and principles resides in the White House?

how is threating someone torture? how is secondhand smoke torture? Grow-up people. Torture is a horrible thing. but threats and secondhand smoke is NOT torture. Pulling someones fingernails out is torture. Breaking bones is torture. Beating someone is torture. Did we do any of those things? If these tactics kept us safe, threaten away.

I is a greater level of success if your measure is the number of lives that our sons and daughters in Afganistan.

why would he say that? Obama is losing ground with the American people and needs to reinforce his popularity. To do this he is reverting back to his strategy for wining the election by putting the belame on Bush for everything up to and including cancer. As a neofite politician he doesn’t realise it’s not about Bush anymore, Obama is in charge and it’s all about him

LOL!

Man up Obama…I think we should just “move on”, so that you can take responsiblity now. We the People are a little sick of your childish refusal to take any responsibility for anything.

>> Jones said … any detainees who were interrogated using methods President Obama has banned – ones that qualify as torture under international law …
Have you noticed how “reporters” these days slip in some oppinion, stated as fact, then quickly move on to avoid the justification part of their incorrect assumtions?

so everything is Obamas fault, right?
Then lets not forget that 9/11 happened which King George was ruling and Yellow Cheney was holding the strings of the puppet-king.
9/11 happened because they were playing games and politics instead of doing their job.
The deficit is their fault, because they made their personal friends rich and bankrupted the country.
therfore the blame goes to the puppet-kind and his yellow-string-master

I find it interesting that Mr. Obama’s National Security Advisor uses the word “rulers” when speaking of government officials, demonstrating a lack of understanding of the role of the federal government and the principles underlying the Constitution. I suspect that this lack of understanding is common among many in Washington. However, people such as this are only one type of symptom of the disease of “failure by the people to understand the lessons of history” and unfortunately, unless this disease is cured, we are destined to experience even more of the symptoms tyrants tend to inflict on those they rule.

Feds are now raiding garage sales. Climate Change laws in Britain are causing blackouts. Socialized medicine is killing people in other countries with alarming numbers. Obama is thumbing his nose at the Constitution and usurping power at an alarming rate. NOW is th etime to stop him and Soros. Note: If we can cut Soros off, we can separate the head from the beast.

“The former Marine General didn’t provide any specific numbers to back up his claim…” and so it goes. Lies, spin, propaganda, and shadow government positioning. 2010 can’t come soon enough. I miss the grown ups.

MichaelSC , 9-11 happened because you illustrious King William made it illegal for the agencies that could have prevented it from sharing information with each other, and his administration also believed that the bombings that had been happening during his watch be handled like criminal investigations, and that the people involved be treated like common criminals, with Miranda rights, and due process. This administration is doing the same thing, and it will result in the same thing. If they had waterboarded the first bombers of the world trade center, there may not have been a 9-11.

We all see how effective the U.N. is when they pulled their “Peace keeping” force out of Rawanda and watched hundreds of thousands killed with out mercy. How effective they are in stopping the pirates off the coast of Africa and how they were able to convince North Korea to stop their nuclear weapons development.
Just about as effective as The League of Nations were with their negotiations with Hitler before WW11
It’s not about making nice with people around a cocktail party at a hollywood ball.
Nations respond in their own best interests and unless you have some advantatage other than presenting yourself as a “nice person” no one is listening. The US and global affairs is far different than influencing a Chicago ward.

“jobs saved” equals “terrorists thwarted” It’s all a psychological, manipulative, propaganda war against the American people.

And what’s this RULER thing. This admin is so disconnected they’ve forgotten they draw a check written by the people in this country. We hire them. We can sure FIRE them.

Y’all have been watching too much “24″ – in the real world, not only is torture ineffective, but even if it worked, it’d still be illegal. Americans seem to have no problems stooping to the terrorists’ level, and I for one believe that we are a better country than that. I’m sorry to all those that don’t – torture seems to be the new right-wing family value.

In reviewing some of the post above, I am struck by the amount of hipocritical and absolute denial of many of my fellow posters. This positive trend in reducing the threat of world wide terrorism, has indeed been documented via many other sources world wide. It was also predicted to happen with a change in the approach taken by the US. It is welcome news, but no surprise to any who have followed the issue in good faith. However, evidently that cannot be said about those who would degrade this administration with any and all things including the most absurd lies.

Intelligence is about getting ahead. If you simple people remember Clinton dismantled the CIA and exposed their method and guess what happens within months of him leaving. And now you have Obama really dismantling the CIA and guess what is going to happen. The CIA only does illegal stuff…that is it point. So Holder and company will now pick and choose what illegal stuff they do and change the rules afterwards. CIA employees will leave in drove since WHAT THEY DO IS ILLEGAL somewhere. This Jones guy seems to have a limited grasp as to how the world works. There were bad people trying to kill each other long before George Bush…so get over him being the bad guy. The China and Soviets are laughing at us…they don’t want us safe…why do they supply Iran and North Korea… It must be great to be a blind idealist who can’t interpert history. George Bush is not the root of all evil. He did nothing before we were attacked you fools. They attacked us because they hate us and they still hate us Obama or not!

I don’t care about the past, all i know is that we have got a lot of problems in this country that we all need to come together to fix… I blame bush and his boys for the state we are in and the fact that the world now hates us and the fact he sold out the american worker but that wont help… Lets try supporting the new president and we will all come out of this ok… Stop the hatting…

General Jones? In whose army?

“So someone on the Obama payroll says he is doing a better job than Bush? Where is the ‘news’ here?”
Yeah, that’s not nearly as good as the Alaska Personnel Board (comprised of panel members who can be fired by the governor) clearing Governor Palin of wrongdoing in the Troopergate fiasco.

Very Glad to see that Bagdad Bob has landed on his feet..

My fellow Marines and I are embarassed that General Jones was one of us. He has been selling out the Marine Corps for his own personal benefit, now he is selling out America as well. He was one of the worst Commandants in history. The real Marines who have been fighting this war know the truth, President Bush was a million times more effective in putting terrorists on the run. He allowed us to do our job, not play a politacally correct game. Notice how once obama took office, Afghanistan started going down hill? Just like America. He likes to blame President Bush for everything, but it is the dems who took control of congress (who, by the Constitution, control the purse strings of America) in 2006 who led the destruction of the economy through Fannie and Freddie (strange how the media ignores that fact also), not President Bush’s policies that successfully stabilized the economy after the 9/11 terrorist attack. The people of America may be gullible and believe the media lies, but you can’t hide the truth forever. That is why obama’s polls are plummeting. The people are starting to open their eyes and see the socialist agenda he has been hiding.

Jones appears to have a limited grasp of history. Clinton dismantled the CIA ablility and guess what happened within months of him leaving. Terrorist attacked us before George Bush? Clinton oversaw numerous attacks and left us mess…Jones doesn’t seem to be aware of the softly softly aproach didn’t work. He give no credit for all that has happen in preventing and seems to believe his 4 months on the job have completely changed the world. He has a very high opinion of himself if he thinks he has changed the entire US gov in his 4 months or is it BLIND FAITH.

It’s true that in the field of mathematics the concept of “rounding up” is practiced and acceptable in certain applications.
However, in History it’s necessary to be a little more precise.
Okay boys and girls, let’s don our little propeller hats and take out our slide rules, or calculators. This is addition and subtraction, tough stuff, so I apologize in advance if we lose a couple of you.
Bush took office on Jan 20th 2000. FACT
Bush was POTUS for 8 years. FACT
Al Qaeda attacked the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. FACT
Bush did not prevent the USA from being attacked for a total of 8 years. FACT
8 years = 96 months of Bush two terms -
20 months of Bush before 9/11 = 76 months of Bush after 9/11
76 months = 6 1/3 years
Because there were only 6+ years remaining after 9/11 and rounding up is not applicable in this context because it would mean that 9/11 didn’t happen at all, which is really what Cheney wants to obscure – don’t play into it even if you’re a republican Bush/Cheney apologist.

The biggest threat to our freedom resides at 1600 Pennyslvania Avenue, Mr. Facist, Barry Hussein Obama

Please, those of you crying about the “torture” of the last admin. need to grow up and stop being so damned naive. Torture as described by you all is merely something that a person does not “want” or “desire” to experience. IN that light, listening to NOBAMA and his Obamatons is torture for more than half of the country right now. Besides that, any gains in getting terriosts now, are they really called that now?, has been set up by the past actions of our country.

Moneyman I hope someone else counts your money because Bush became President 8 Months before 911 not 20 Months.
It’s true that in the field of mathematics the concept of “rounding up” is practiced and acceptable in certain applications.
However, in History it’s necessary to be a little more precise.
Okay boys and girls, let’s don our little propeller hats and take out our slide rules, or calculators. This is addition and subtraction, tough stuff, so I apologize in advance if we lose a couple of you.
Bush took office on Jan 20th 2000. FACT
Bush was POTUS for 8 years. FACT
Al Qaeda attacked the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. FACT
Bush did not prevent the USA from being attacked for a total of 8 years. FACT
8 years = 96 months of Bush two terms -
20 months of Bush before 9/11 = 76 months of Bush after 9/11
76 months = 6 1/3 years
Because there were only 6+ years remaining after 9/11 and rounding up is not applicable in this context because it would mean that 9/11 didn’t happen at all, which is really what Cheney wants to obscure – don’t play into it even if you’re a republican Bush/Cheney apol

Can I get some of whatever this inbred wild donkey (Gen. Jim Jones) is smoking? Is Dumbobama’s greater success with international relations defined by starting WW3? I swear that you should have to pass a test to vote! Hope and “change” to what??? Idiots!

The world was always envious of us. You think suddenly N Korea and Iran loves us because of Obama? How about Venezuela? Russia? Perhaps the only people who suddenly like us more are Hamas and Hezzbollah because Obama is seen as anti Israel.

torture seems to be the new right-wing family value.
Posted by: Josh | Sep 1, 2009 8:28:28 AM
Interesting, isn’t it? One dude even proclaimed himself a right wing terrorist at a town hall and was blessed by the Republican congressman.

9/11 happened on the Bush/Cheney watch. No one is to blame but them. Not Clinton as the Bush/Cheney brainwashed supporters are always trying to claim. And Afghanistan was going down hill before Obama took office and it is just a matter of time before there is a demand to get out of there.

I keep seeing comments about how those of us that support torture are idiots, and un-American, but I don’t see any comments supporting torture. So what are you babbling about? For the past 8 years this country has been on an aggressive campaign to either find and arrest, or kill those that kill innocent people. If we could take them alive we did, but these are people that blow themselves up along with anyone in the immediate vicinity, so sometimes it’s safer to just hit them with one of our missiles that we can put right down an air vent duct. Have some non targeted individuals been taken out in the process? Sure, you are known by the company you keep, and if you like to hang out with known terrorists and help them make bombs, or cook them some goat burgers while they make bombs and tell terrorist stories, then say hi to Allah if or when you see him. But if someone had my brother, and I knew in the past that person liked to slice off hands and genitilia, and hack off heads with a butcher knife while they stepped on peoples heads, then yeah, I think I would stand in front of his buddy with an electric drill and scare him until he told me where he was. None of these terrorists that were so called tortured, have any physical damage, no broken bones, no missing body parts, no poked out eyes, no children decapitated in front of them. But we simulated drowning by water boarding, scary, but not life threatening. By your standards, many amusement park rides that make you think you’re going over a cliff, or a haunted house where some guy in a zombie suit is hopping out at you could be considered torture. Sheesh

This is not ABC’s shining moment for journalism. The General will not cite specifics, and ABC certainly isn’t asking.
For simple minds, that may give a warm and fuzzy feeling. Sounds like Baghdad Bob to me, as military command in Afganistan is asking for more troops, again.

With all due respect, it seems to me that General Jones forgot that in a constitutional democracy the citizens of our nation elect political officials to lead not to rule.
I believe that while his use of the term “rulers” could easily be written off as misspeaking, it’s actually quite troubling that someone who’s spent many years of his life in the military would make such a verbal blunder.
He knows well the difference in the mind-set of elected political leaders and non-elected, totalitarian rulers. His verbal misspeak may provide insight into what he observes in back room conversations with some of our current elected officials who have forgotten they were elected to serve as “leaders” not “rulers.”

Get your facts straight, Bush was in office 7.5 months when 9-11 happened. He was still trying to find w’s for the computers, trace all the phone lines that were cut, and inventory all the missing property from the white house from when the Clintons and their staff left office.

A true leader would stand on his own merit…
Posted by: Steve | Sep 1, 2009 8:56:06 AM
So you don’t blame the Democratic Congress for the crappy economy Bush’s policies created up to the day he left office, and you don’t blame Clinton for 9/11. Good!! Progress!!

“9/11 happened on the Bush/Cheney watch. No one is to blame but them. Not Clinton as the Bush/Cheney brainwashed supporters are always trying to claim. And Afghanistan was going down hill before Obama took office and it is just a matter of time before there is a demand to get out of there.”
Oh OK so What Clinton didn’t take care of was the next guys fault but what happened duirng Bush’s presidency is not the next guys fault – good logic their you dolt – credibility of your inane statement = 0

This is just another example of the Obama administration’s approach to problems: Say something, no matter how ridiculous, and hope that enough people will swallow the story to make the problem go away.
Their credibility depends on how many are not paying attention to the facts — and on a compliant news media that continues to provide a smokescreen for the blunders and deceptions of this administration.

Remember Clinton sending cruise missles
after some “terrorists” to steal the headlines away from the Lewinsky story? Then the “terrorists” turned out to be civilians working in a factory. If I remember correctly, this was the first unilateral move of his administration (didn’t seek UN approval first). The move was predicatable and transparent but the press gave him cover. Obama may try something similar…we need to keep our eyes open.

Gen Jim Jones Ret. is a political hack for the Obama administration, an anybody that believes this garbage is nuts.

Truman wrote: “…no doubt Obama’s picks, who are actually qualified to hold their jobs…”
You mean appointments like:
VAN JONES as Green Jobs Czar–a self-proclaimed Communist, who in 1994 formed STORM (Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement).
MARK LLOYD as Associate General Counsel and Chief Diversity Officer of the FCC–a Marxist who lamented the fact that non-state-run radio stations prevented Hugo Chavez’s “incredible revolution,” and who stated: “…and came back and had another revolution. And Chavez then started to take the media very seriously in this country.”

Anyone that actually knows a marine would not be so quick as to call them a politcal hack. My brother was a marine and doesn’t put up with BS. He also thinks that the chickenhawks of the previous administration made this country less safe.

9/11 happened on the Bush/Cheney watch. No one is to blame but them. Not Clinton as the Bush/Cheney brainwashed supporters are always trying to claim. And Afghanistan was going down hill before Obama took office and it is just a matter of time before there is a demand to get out of there.
Anne
Anne,
I wish you would quit watching MSM. 9-11 can be blamed mostly on Clinton. Ole Bill had the chance to put Osama Bin Laden in prison (I believe it was Sudan that was willing to extradite OBL to the US under Clinton). This was after Clinton was informed about a possible 9-11 attack. Clinton refused the extradition. Under Clinton we had multiple attacks. Under Bush, we only had one, which was actually more of a byproduct of Clinton gutting the military and intelligence agencies. I’ll bet under Obama we’ll get hit again because, he too, is gutting our infrastructure.

New Zogby poll shows Obama’s approval at 42%.
Ouch. I bet that won’t send a thrill up Chris Matthews’ leg.

oh, dear. Mike, Militaryman. Please see Steve. No blaming on past presidents allowed! Or is only good for the geese?

“It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”—Joseph Stalin (a man who murdered 40 million of his own people under Marxism/Communism) Sounds like a familiar tactic used by Obama’s ACORN thuggery this past November.

Now that is a credible source…ABC?

Obama is putting them on his staff and Czar list, They are on the same team.

Rassmussen just released his numbers….President Obama is down to 45% approval. 45-53. Ouch. You just simply can’t “Rahm” anything through Congress with those numbers. No wonder we had such frantic urgency before the August break. The Administration couldn’t hide their 2 Trillion dollar “accounting error” through the fall as numbers were due during August, and a public they knew was growing more uneasy by the moment would have a chances to (gasp!) read the bills moving through committees on the hill.

Under Bush, we only had one
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Ah. You’re not really keeping track of what happened– let’s see except for the catastrophic events of 9/11, and the anthrax attacks against Americans, and terrorist attacks against U.S. allies, and the terrorist attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failure to capture Osama bin Laden and beginning the Iraq War which inspired more terrorists, and the success terrorists had in exploiting Bush’s policies of torture international unpopularity to recruit more terrorists– yes, yes, except for all that the Bush admin’s record was STELLAR. Never mind the economy, Katrina, and so on, as that’s a different matter.

Many more terrorists? Names, dates, times, by who, how?

hellpig
A sheriff in Texas was sentence to prison for waterboarding a confession out of a suspect. But I guess Texas is a liberal state.

The mentality of the left is to pit MY guy against YOUR guy. Fact is they are both OUR guys. Now, lets look at the facts about how things are NOW and decide for ourselves how they should be interpreted. I think we all now propaganda news when we are willing to open our eyes. For god’s sake, let’s all open our eyes, clear our minds of the bs, stand on our own feet and demand honesty and credible leadsership.

—The Obama administration has been trying out a new policy toward Syria since the day it came to office. The Bush cold shoulder was viewed as a primitive reaction, now to be replaced by sophisticated diplomacy. Outreach would substitute for isolation. Thus there have been six visits to Damascus by high-level administration officials, including two by George Mitchell. Moreover, the administration has signaled that its handling of export license applications for Syria will be more “flexible” than that of the Bush administration, which tried to deny every shipment it could.
Well, the returns are in. Within the past week, Iraq has withdrawn its ambassador from Damascus and accused Syria of involvement in terrorist incidents in Baghdad. Iraqi TV has also aired a confession by an accused al Qaeda terrorist, a Saudi who claimed he had been trained in Syria–by the Asad regime’s intelligence services. Nor is this all. Syria continues to support Hezbollah’s blocking of the formation of a government in Lebanon, backing Hezbollah in its demand for a “blocking third” that would prevent any decisions Hezbollah opposes in any new Cabinet. The Palestinian terrorist groups remain headquartered in Damascus, and under no visible restraints. And on August 19, President Bashar Asad paid a visit to President Ahmadinejad in Tehran, to showcase his support of the latter during the current Iranian political crisis.—

AmericanBelle
What rights have you lost since Obama has taken office? Your whole post is based off that, so it must be happening.

“Simply put Obama is shaping up to be the best president ever.”
LOL. More than 50% of the country don’t believe that he’s the best president now!
The rest of your screed is silly fear mongering and strawmen that no one believes.
But keep dancing around, wearing that partisan tin foil hat. Folks these days could use a laugh or two in the face of fiscal irresponsibility, record deficits that make Bush look like a fiscal genius, and shrill bigotry of liberals that are destroying any chance of convincing independents that they are the party of hope and change.

hellpig
I’ve read history and the worse is considered to be Warren G. Harding. And he was the worse because of the Cabinet he chose not by his ability to be President. Bush is on the lower end of average but definitely not the worse.

*** FLASH *** ABC NEWS EXLUSIVE!!!
“President’s National Security Advisor Says His Boss is Totally Awesome and Much Better Than the Previous Guy”
What a scoop!!!

RDB1011 (6:09am) is right on about the general’s use of the term ruler. It is not a Constitutionally valid way of looking at the role of the President and would be disasterous to our country if that is the way our people began to look at the Presidency. Did not all our servicemen sacrifice so we would not have a ruler? This and several other comments from the General make one wonder how he reached such a high level of command. He must be a lot better at killing the enemey then talking about policy and politics.
Didn’t the Obama camp recently say it would no longer count dead enemy bodies so not to inflame the enemy? So why is the general doing it here. He was obviously told to go out do this interview.
It is sad that liberal Presidential campaign rhetoric has become policy. Obviously Eric Holder did not get the memo. Or like Willy Wonka, Obama, the is feigning his protest.

ABC can’t show you the numbers to support the Administration, nor are they willing to challenge the White House’s “facts.” They swallow the press releases the WH gives them and then pass them on as “news.” Skepticism in the MSM is dead – until another Republican President is elected.
I can’t wait for the media to begin spinning the President’s sub-50% job approval rating. The “Oh, it’s not that bad” puff pieces are bound to hit in about, say, two days or less.

Quick, get Baghdad Bob Gibbs in front of a camera to give the official Minister of Information take one this.

as i recall just reading that aug was the worst month for lossing our troops in afgan since the war began. i think our pres is BHO now not GB. Quit trying to blame everything that you are doing wrong on the past admin. we have had no attacks over here because we have did things right the past 8 years. but you dems always run to “its bushes fault or your racist”. if that all you can come up with, then you have no merit. I fear for our military because of this pres. he gives nothing about our boys and girls that elected to serve this great country. God bless our military..This admin has woken a sleeping giant and everyday more people are seeing how they are trying to destroy our country… your days are numbered washingtion. dems and repubs.. 2010 in or out……

You know the American public taste with revisionist history is still healthy. Whether or not you agree with any administration there are simply in front of us all the facts. Yes former President Clinton tried to kill Osama Bin Laden. Richard Clarke was promoted to chief counter-terrorism adviser on the U.S. National Security Council a position which continued under the GW Bush Presidency but not as a cabinet level position. The Bush presidency was built on a position of “bringing integrity back to the office”, a reference to former President Clinton indiscretions in the oval office. Under President Clinton terror suspects were monitored and tracked to the best ability the US government had seen under any previous president because of the mounting issues related to terrorism and foreign policy. Suspects who were caught were tried and convicted in federal court and today sit behind federal bars (aka in US Soil). Under the GW Bush administration, an administration which once again reflected the GOP affection for a more interventionist foreign policy (although during the 200 campaign Bush talked about being a humble leader), the US intelligence community was asked to re-prioritize and focus on making our military lighter, more aggressive and privatize whatever defense functions which did not directly relate to combat (such as security, supplies and construction, although new revelations regarding a Blackwater assassination squad would add new light) Whatever the case the US government did have intelligence prior to 9-11, read the 9-11 commission, regarding eminent attacks aimed at our shores by Al Queda. The Bush administration found it self as the leader of our country trying to make sense of the 2nd attack in a century on US shores. Whatever your political persuasion the GW Bush administration was ultimately responsible as the leader of the US to protect our nation and on 9-11 we as a nation were let down. The attacks brought our country together in order to help all of those in need, whether it be by donating time or money or joining the military. The stock market was shut down, our airline industry was shut down and our President Bush at the time expressed his sorrow and resolve and then ordered us Americans to go out and shop! Yeah that is right, he asked Americans to sacrifice by shopping (of course many, if not most of our goods are made in China, but that is beside the point). He did not ask us to build a victory garden, he did not ask us to buy war bonds, and he did not ask us to volunteer in the military, he asked us to shop. Our country was already heading into a recession era economy shortly into 2001 but mainly going into 2002 and 2003. And so we were asked to personally stimulate the economy and we as Americans did as we were told. America was right to go into Afghanistan after the Taliban (who harbours terrorist and those that planned 9-11) and Al Queada. The the Bush administration believed that Saddam Hussein provided the next threat to America. During his dad’s Presidency (G H W Bush) it was discovered during the original gulf war upon inspection that Saddam had greater accumulation of weapons and chemical weapons than previous intelligence reports stated. So from the Gulf War going forward through the Clinton and Bush II presidency their were greater restrictions placed on Iraq by the US and UN security council. President GW Bush came multiple times in front of the American people and the people of the world and told us that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat to the US and the world. He said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (WMD’s) and he said there was a connection between Al Queada and Iraq. The 9-11 commission completely rebuts the idea that Saddam had WMD’s and exonerates Saddam as having any substantial/operational ties to Al Queda. So not only does GW Bush have to take responsibility for not protecting America on 9-11, but he is also responsible for leading us into a war based on false conclusion because of poor evidence collection and verification. The GOP’s legacy as a avid military supportee by an measurable standard should be completely questioned if not outright abandoned by Bush’s leadership while commander and chief. Of course I am not even bringing up his leadership failures in Iraq from 2003-2006 or prior to the “Sunni Awakening” and the leadership of Gen Patreus.
No matter what your political persuasion is these are the facts as I see them, these are a few of my recollections and perspective over the last eight years. As for Obama, we are still on track, according to Gen Patreus to exit Iraq by next year, we have expanded our operations in Afghanistan and have successfully handled a pirate kidnapping. The Obama administration has got N Korea talking with the S Koreans, we have rescued two American prisoners from N Korea and have calmed the tensions in Georgia and Russia for now. The Obama administration just passed the best GI bill since its inception and seems committed to health care of its returning veterans and the rest of the American people, rich or poor.
I thank God every day for releasing the American people from the failures of the GW Bush administration.

Maybe O’bama could improve his popularity if he spent more time hanging out with the “A” team. People like Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Schummer, Durbin and Gore. That is a group that puts shiver up your spine.

James Danley
Your logic falls a little flat considering Clinton became President in 1993. And the Congress was Democratic until 1994. You could say the deficit was budgeted from Bush 1 last budget.

Tom
The strongest government is the most oppressive government. Our Democratic Republic is far better then the majority and the alternative is worse.

0bama won’t stop until he has set up him and his merry men up to own it all.
Wake up!
We are NOT safe like we were for the 7 years before 0bama.
He is always on vacation, no matter where he goes. All he has to do is read the speaches that the people pulling his strings wrote. Pretty good gig.
He has no moral compas. He wants his elbow room. More people abort, more people refused medical treatment, more people die in the world. That’s more elbow room for him and his cronys. Sick!

Show me the money! Name names. This is more liberal spin control to cover a plot by some liberal to have the Democrarts take over the economy and implement a one party system like the Furher in the 30′s. Obama is just the puppet. Spare me the “he’s intellegent” commentary. He’s a face a front man. Think about it. He’s almost always scripted on teleprompter and when he’s not he screws up like no president before him. See comments on Pennsylvanians and the police. Obama is a Chicago thug and needs to be stopped now.

Bubba
My comments were a response to someone elses comments on torture. But if you want to misquote I be glad to tell you taking away gun ownership has never been a priority or a goal of Democrat. Taxes come with a elected government, nor have we nationalize any company. Your fears are misplaced.

MM You Wrong
If The Socialist Marxist Obama, fails, The United States of America will survive this regime that needs over throwing Sir!

“nor have we nationalize any company. Your fears are misplaced.”
Tell that to the people who used to own government motors (GM).

“The former Marine General didn’t provide any specific numbers to back up his claim…”
Imagine *that*!

TexasRobert
What country you know of has survive without a leader?

Under the Clinton Admin they managed to arrest suspects and stop huge terrorist operations planned for the the millennium in Seattle at the space needle and LA LAX.
Dubya was warned Al Quada planned attack with airplanes a month beforehand and promptly went on vacation.
He said to the official who told him “now you’ve covered your butt”
FBI identified some of the hijackers prior to 9/11 but were told by higher ups not to act.
The name of those higher ups that suppressed the investigation have never been revealed, no disciplinary action was ever taken for the worst security failure in US history under Bush’s watch.
Dubyas daddy and Osama’s daddy both watched the towers go down together on t.v. at the Carlisle Group Building. Just the latest chapter in the long family relationship between the Bush’s and the Bin Ladens.
But its all Clintons fault right?

Gen Jones isn’t in tune with the times. There are no such things as terrorist anymore, at least not in the middle east or Asia. According to this administration the only terrorists we have to fear are on our own soil and of the right wing variety.

All it will take is just one (1) terror attack on US soil, whether it relates to Obama’s policies or not, for him to be blamed. It is just a matter of waiting, that’s all. It will eventually happen and when it does, the public wrath will come down on Obama and the democrats hard and fast.

We (Obama administration) are having more success taking out terrorists? How can that be when you won’t even call them terrorists? It’s not the administration that is getting better at taking them out it is the military getting better at using the information and technical systems available to the that is getting better at taking them out! Don’t you love liberals who take credit for things they have nothing to do with!

Tom
Anyway you slice it. GM was not nationalized. When country nationalizes an industry there is no part ownership. Canada, the Government, and UAW all own a portion of GM. And this is an especially bad example for you because GM would have collapsed and had 0 workers instead of have 61,000 workers it has now. But I guess you generally miss the position.
I encourage you to examine Mexico’s nationalization of the oil companies to understand the topic better.

It’s not enough just to say “we’re having more success” without examining seriously why that might be. While it’s possible that the Obama administration has suddenly discovered the secret to knocking out AQ, it’s far more likely that this is the natural end-result of the concerted efforts of the CIA et al. over the last eight-nine years. That is, somewhere there’s likely a tipping point or series thereof where people over there become more and more willing to rat out the AQ guys, and we may have reached one of those.
It is in low form for the O-team to grab all the credit.

Gee…no numbers to back up his claims….it reminds me of a dope who went on the Imus show and said that Obama has the highest IQ of any president in history…Imus asked the guest if he knew the actual number…the guest said he didn’t but he imagined it must be the highest….

Two things: first, claiming the world is holding hands and singing kumbaya does not kill terrorists. Second, your response to Cheney’s criticism is the equivalent of a kid saying “nuh uh!” show me some facts.since when are we supposed to just take someones word?

Under the Clinton Admin they managed to arrest suspects and stop huge terrorist operations….
Posted by: calilove | Sep 1, 2009 10:33:07 AM
You mean like:
- The first World Trade Center bombing
- USS Cole
- TWO African embassy bombings
- Khobar Towers

Shawn
All our problems can’t be decided with a barrel of a gun or the precision of our missiles.
The Mid East Problem is that of instability and poverty. Terrorist needs both these conditions to thrive.

Jason Wolfe Sept 1 @ 12:58 AM:
“Obama killed Betalluh Massud.”
I really don’t think Obama killed him.

calilove ‘FBI identified some of the hijackers prior to 9/11 but were told by higher ups not to act.
The name of those higher ups that suppressed the investigation have never been revealed, no disciplinary action was ever taken for the worst security failure in US history under Bush’s watch.’
Are you saying that Bin Laden, et al. planned, organized, trained and acted out there crimes in the nine months that Bush was in office as POTUS? Or are you saying that the Clinton administration was aware of the pending danger and did nothing?
Worse, is it possible that all of the preparation and training took place during Clintons turn at the helm and the people he had working for him knew nothing about it?
Please confirm.

joshquasimoto, that’s funny. “No matter what your political persuasion is these are the facts as I see them, these are a few of my recollections and perspective”. You can have your prespective and your opinions, BUT you do not get to define the facts as you see them. They are either facts or they are not. The biggest problem, and there are many, with the current administration and their peeps is that they play fast and loose with the “facts” while accusing the previous administration of doing the same. They assume that we, and the rest of the world in turn, will be so mesmerized by their “chosen one” saying it is so, that we will have no choice but to believe it is. He could come out and say the sky is green and I guarantee there would be those rushing out to prove that it is so…

Hope they are not counting the murder of the three Somali pirates.

MM, I didn’t catch my error in my original comment. I meant to say: “It was the Republicans controlling both Houses of Congress from January 1995 through December 2000, that balanced the budget.”

Pretty nice retirement gig, eh, General? It seems the only requirement to get your crony status from Obama is that you be willing to lie and mindlessly parrot the democratic party’s socialist propoganda. This tool’s ludicrous statements is a a despicable insult to the good men and women who fought and died for this country and it’s Constitution.

The ultimate measure of success — the only meaningful measurement — is whether the U.S. is attacked or not.

President Obama’s greater success with international relations has meant more terrorists put out of commission.
Is this because he kissed up and made deals with them like he did with the auto makers and banks?

One_American
Yeah it took Bush 7 months before America got massively attack. And it took 8 years for our financial system to collapse. Bush the standard in crash and burn.

And the appeasement continues as America sets out to eat her own, Eric Holder and the Justice Dept. prosecuting the CIA for being mean to terrorists.
Eric Holder has a history of helping terrorists. He PARDONED Marc Rich, once among the FBI’s “ten most wanted” fugitives, stood accused of racketeering, defrauding the Treasury out of tens of millions of dollars, and Trading with our Nation’s enemies—including Iran, which Rich supplied with desperately needed funds while Khomeini’s embargoed regime held American hostages.
Eric Holder PARDONED the FARC Colombian terrorists (who are responsible for kidnapping and murdering thousands of Colombians and Americans alike) so Hillary would get the Hispanic vote when she first ran for Senate in NY.Black Panthers at voting polls with clubs,NOT PROSECUTED. Now, he’s PROSECUTING American heroes who got information out of Islamic barbarians and helped America stay safe. That information helped capture other terrorists and prevented further attacks – DOCUMENTED.
There will be “change”. We just may not survive it.
There’s another (cynical) side to this. They put this story out when President Obama is in hiding in order for the dumbed-down American voter (who hate George Bush) to forget about how they’re trying to take over health care.

blackirishblonde
To bad the majority of those dumb-down voters are college educated latte sipping liberals. LMAO. You guys love to name call.

Bob
GM lost a 3rd of there jobs. And if UAW hadn’t steped in they would have lost 100% of there jobs. But union members often pay more taxes then non-union members so why should your opinion matter.

MM, when presidents submit their annual budget they also include a 10-year forecast. It was this 10-year forecast to which I was referring. Now then, according to the Congressional Budget Office the Clinton actual (as opposed to the original forecast) annual budgets were (fiscal year is Oct 1 – Sept 30):
1994 — $203.2 billion deficit
1995 — $164.0 billion deficit
1996 — $107.4 billion deficit (first budget with Republicans in control of Congress)
1997 — $21.9 billion deficit
1998 — $69.3 billion surplus
1999 — $125.6 billion surplus ($2.6 billion more than my original comment)
2000 — $236.2 billion surplus ($6.2 billion more than my original comment)
2001 — $128.2 billion surplus

Ashley
Bush sucked even with the teleprompter. Reality check every President Since color tv has used a teleprompter.

James Danley
Yeah but the budget deficit was already being reduce before the Republican Congress so to say only Republicans should take credit is ridiculous.

“GM would have collapsed and had 0 workers instead of have 61,000 workers it has now. But I guess you generally miss the position.”
I am not even remotely so sure it would have collapsed. In fact, I don’t believe that at all and I would be willing to bet some intelligent moves by real leadership while facing the realities of the market could have worked wonders. Downsizing yes. Having to sharpen their tools in order to survive in a tight marketplace yes. But collapse? I was born at night but it wasn’t last night. If they did collapse it would be their own fault and it arguably should be that way.
“I encourage you to examine Mexico’s nationalization of the oil companies to understand the topic better.”
I might look into that but I think history taught me all I need to know. Socialism destroys freedom and takes lives. Millions upon millions of lives. I encourage you to examine Germany’s nationalization of pretty much everything they could to understand the topic better.

Clarification: While the Republican’s took control of Congress in 1995 and may have affected the actual 1995 budget. The 1996 budget was the first budget PASSED by the Republicans.

Wee goes the spin machine!!

Interesting, More high value targets captured or killed…….now that the low value targets have been eliminated, the only ones left on the board is the king, rooks and bishops all the pawns are gone… so it must be that Obama is better at this.

They say there are “more captures”. I wonder where they are keeping them? Are they in Guantanamo?

Jones is just being a good little ‘bot…even the Marine Corps occasionally produces a Perfumed Prince of the Pentagon.

To all you people who continue to blame Bush for this countries ills – take note. Obama has spent more money in the first 9 months of office than the last 20 presidents combined. This economy isnt because of anything Bush did but because of Congress starting under Clinton – Congress (dems and repubs) deregulated the housing industry and this can be directly attributed to a democratic plan that was passed (Barney Frank was the founder of that one) to do so and that has been added to every year since then. But Republicans are not blameless. Make no mistake though this country is in the shape it is because of the last 60 years of having a worthless Congress. These people have made careers for themselves instead of doing the job they were hired for. They all need to be fired.

ABC had to search to find this guy – who wasprobably promised something for saying what he says. The military is overwhelmingly Republican because they know that Dmeocrats only care about power, not keeping America safe. Why is it that the three of the four major networks are and have for decades been pro-Democrat when most Americans are conservative? ABC, like NBC and CBS have no credibility and are yesterdays news. With the years of bias against Republicans and for Democrats would believe ANYTHING reported by the traditional three networks? EVERYTHING about the networks is biased – choice of news, story content, everything. Nothing to see here, move on….

Bias bias bias – you can go back William Paely and the radio news of the ’30′s for the beginnings of the bias by the networks in favor of Democrats and against Republicans. THE MAJOR NETWORKS HAVE NO CREDIBILITY – they are one seamless whole with the Democrat party, from which they get much of thier news personnnel. I knew someone who worked at the news division at NBC – they are open about being biased – it’s all a big joke to them. It infects everything about the networks and about public broadcasting as well – ever wonder why in debates the pro-left side are reporters for NPR and the pro-right side is columnists? NPR and the networks thinks Americans in general are stupid sheep, and that they are the elite.

Calilove:
In her testimony to the 9/11 Commission, then National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice, told of more than 40 Presidential Daily Briefings regarding al Qaeda in the first 8 months of the Bush Administration. That 13 of those briefings were in response to questions by President Bush or his top advisers. It was the CIA that stated it was in direct response to several occasions where President Bush wanted to know whether al Qaeda was planning an attack against the United States, that they prepared the August 6, 2001 PDB, “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike In US.”
Yes, President Bush was on vacation in August 2001. But he still received the PDBs and held daily meetings with his staff. The only difference between being in the White House and on the Ranch in Crawford, TX was the geography. The President’s ability to conduct business was never diminished by where he was physically located.
CIA Director George Tenent visited President Bush in Crawford on August 17, 2001. He also participated in the PDBs following President Bush’s return to Washington DC between August 31, 2001 and September 10, 2001. Director Tenent stated that he did not recall any discussions of a domestic threat during that period.
The FBI was very active in investigating tips. The last two paragraphs of the August 6, 2001 PDB state:
“Nevertheless, FBI information since that time (1998) indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
“The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.”
Following the PDB of August 6th, President Bush and the National Security Agency began planning changes that might have actually prevented the attacks had they had a few more weeks to implement the changes. One of the areas looked at was the “wall” that prevented law enforcement from communicating with the intelligence agencies. The PDB mentions that BOTH the CIA and the FBI were investigating the SAME call to our embassy in the UAE. Had they had a joint investigation would that have prevented 9/11? We will never know.
But the main point is that AT NO TIME was there ever a credible warning with specifics of an imminent threat.

According to the Obama administration there are no more terrorists – hence, instant 100% success rate for fighting terrorism.

More Obama administration hot air and symbolic empty rhetoric without fact. How can anyone take these people for their word alone? They have yet to be correct about anything. They miss the budget numbers by 20%. They don’t have death panels but yet they tell us now they some how removed them. They don’t want to nationalize everything but they do. They will keep competition but then raise regulations and cost to do business so high all competition fails. Case in point the bank reserve requirement has doubled under Obama rules since he took over the large banks. It’s like the referee playing in the game. Small banks are failing because they haven’t the capital but government has capital our tax dollars that they are able to funnel to their banks. If you think health care will be any different your nuts. These people are on a course of total destruction of the free market system of this country while telling us they love it. Why would you want to believe people involved in this scam on the American people?

From the article:
The former Marine General didn’t provide any specific numbers…but he said “there is an increasing trend and I think we seen that in different parts of the world over the last few months for sure.” …not “making a tally sheet saying we are killing more people, capturing more people than they did — that is not the issue.”
Ok, lets see if I understand this correctly. He said “I think” there is an increasing trend…that’s “for sure”…but not keeping count because “that is not the issue”.
So he thinks he knows for sure there are increasing insignificant numbers that he’s not keeping track of….so therefore Obama is good; Bush is bad.

Obama went around the world did what? Leaders around the world just sit down and laughed at him how his indecency and stupidity are. What leaders of the world do. Just laugh and give him a middle finger.

So Gen Jones says Obama has killed more terrorists in “overseas contingency operations” then Bush did in the “war on terror”. But of course Gen Jones offers no proof to backup his claims, we’re just supposed to believe him. Like we were supposed to believe that unemployment would not rise above 8% if the Obama stimulus passed.What Americans can believe is that the current President is incompetent and in way over his head.It getting to a point where not even the state run media is able to prop Obama up.

This is the same government that has communists in its ranks, and in the White House.
This is the same government that says the war on terror is over.
This is the same government that says terrorists that are detained must be read the Miranda rights.
Dont believe anything this administration says.

More lies by the Obama regime. They make an outrageous statement without any evidence to back up the statement. They just assume we will all believe what they tell us.
Jim Jones needs to stop drinking the “magic punch.”
You have to assume the opposite is true of what the Obama regime says. If they asay they are doing a better job than Bush, then the reality is that they are doing a worse job and trying to cover it up with lies.

the economy is going great and you will soon have free healthcare too….(NOT!!)C’mon 2010!!

Good interview. I believe we have and will have positive impacts from the Obama administration’s policies and leadership. Finally, we are moving away from the “either you are for us or against us” mentality and into a collaborative effort. Policing the world is the responsibility of all Nations and not just the United States. Cooperation will not only make the US safer but will also spread the financial burden around as well. A fiscal responsibility note for those of you who complain about OBama’s spending.

My grandpa said… when you go walking in the pasture, always know where the BULL is and don’t step in the steamy cow pies..our general? jones… BULL?

Awesome news. Go Obama! He’s got the economy turning around, and he’s showing the terrorists who is boss.

Obama is a terrorist. He has done more damage to America than Al Queda ever has.

Where’s Bin Laden?

Jones is about as honest as Gen. Wesley Clark was during his campaign. Just figure this: The media didn’t really like Bush, yet you still heard about terrorist thugs being killed/captured.
Now Obama is the media darling. What great “catches/kills” can he boast? Really, Gen Jones, just who the heck is paying you to make your stupid statements? Real hard guess there, right?!

Yeah, but Obama thinks taking terrorists out to dinner on commission which is not what President Bush did.

Luther Poach at 12:28, you forgot your “sarc” tags.

Obama has been president for 8 months and all he and his regime can do is still blame Bush. If Bush was dead, Obama would still blame him.
Obama is bad for our nation. They want to “get” our CIA for doing their job. They want to hold hands with terrorists. They say Obama is doing better against terrorists than Bush, yet the Afghan was has been escalating while Obama has been in “charge”.

Explain to me then why the number of casualties in Afghanistan have increased since President Narcissist took office. Just another Stalinist lie by the narcissist. I saved jobs…I am against lobbyists….I am against earmarks…..I am for you keeping your current health care plan….I am going to provide the public with a 5 day public vetting of any bill….I am going to accept public funds in this campaign….I wasn’t aware of any radical speeches made by Rev. Wright….lie lie lie lie lie lie

the Afghan was has been escalating while Obama has been in “charge”.
Posted by: Ken H
General David McKiernan wanted more troops and was fired 4 months ago. This really set us back at a time when he was wanting to go after insurgents. Obama and gates (2 conscripted years of military total) decided they wanted new ideas so they hire McChrystal. How ironic he wants more troops too! Obama and Gates are an embarrasment and they should let the generals determine what they need and Gates and Obama should give them the resources to win. That should be their involvement.

Good Afternoon, All–
So Jones attributes the primary reason for success to be “intelligence.” If this is the case, how can you blame Bush? His administration had to rebuild the intelligence sources after years of neglect and damage by the Clinton administration.
Anybody can look good if your key activity is the inheritance of eight seven years of hard work…..
Have a blessed day–

Anyone even suggesting Obama’s leadership has improved our situation over there should have their head examined. I did 2 tours in Iraq and 7 other tours in the countries surrounding it and can tell you our military is performing well. The inputs from politicians are what’s hampering some of our plans. If you get the chance, read the book “Sole Survivor”. It will show how ruthless our terrorist friends are.

Hahahahaha…that’s rich!…Gen. Jim Jones should try the comedy circuit…

Liberal Mike wrote “”"”"”Wow. It’s like a convention of right wing douchebags here”"”"”"”
Hey Mike, I am an Independent, but even we see complete lies when they are thrown out there. Show us ANY facts to the contrary of what is being said and you might get some credibility.

As a 28 year Army veteran I am ashamed to see my brother Marine prostitute himself for his ego and ambition. I guess that Gen Jones forgot his oath of office so many years ago.

Change you can believe in.

Pay very close attention to the language in this quote of Jones’, “President Obama has taken the leadership on it… to discuss things with OTHER RULERS.”
This suggests that the Mr. Obama and his administration views itself as the RULER of the United States.
Regardless of where we stand on policy, it is dangerous for any administration to view itself as the RULER of the USA.

Regardless of where we stand on policy, it is dangerous for any administration to view itself as the RULER of the USA.
Posted by: Lord Boru
And even worse when a former General bows down in front and back of him! This is the most wishy washy BS with no facts I have ever read.

There’s only one thing Obama is better at than Bush, and that being the rate by which he is destroying the United States of America. With Bush, we were at a leisurely pace. With Obama, we are sprinting towards a Fascist state. For those who get their panties in a twist over that word, get educated instead of being just opinionated.

teacher —- In the military, we have old school and new school generals. This man is clearly new school. Example: Old school would be General Jalwain when he served in Europe. New School is bucking for a political position and does what politics dictate. Trust me when I tell you it is much better fighting under an “old school” general than a weasel like this.

Brainwashing our children day is Sept 8 when Obama goes on TV in our schools like Hitler to brainwash America’s youth. My grandsons will be home that day. What about your children and grandchildren? will they get the state sponsored indoctrination

General Jones may or may not have trouble sleeping nights when he makes obviously questionable statements like those quoted here. That’s for him to know. But, on their face, his remarks are drivel. How do you increase our national security by attacking the CIA, trying to criminalize previous actions that were legally sanctioned, kissing the ring of a Saudi ruler whose country funds terrorists and their activities, kissing Palestinian behinds while dissing our only real ally in the middle east, Israel, deleting ‘war on terror’ from the official dialogue, constantly whining about the Bush administration, and treating Americans who disgree with your policies more like enemies than those who want to kill you and have proven they’ll keep trying? And that doesn’t even touch on all the other lies, misstatements, reversals of promises, and other missteps of this president and his cohorts. The man isn’t just a socialist, he’s bloody incompetent as well. God help the United States if this continues. Fortunately, we have a chance to correct the course somewhat in 2010.

did he really say “– to discuss things with other rulers to enhance ….”
So is this the step in transition from being our president – representing the people of our country to being the RULER of our country?

“when Obama goes on TV in our schools like Hitler to brainwash America’s youth”
More name calling and smear tactics.

mrsharfer
re: ‘muslim in the whitehouse’
as the Prez says….
‘they take pride in their own ignorance’
thank you for proving him correct, yet again
btw: if TARP is “W’s baby, then the crashed economy is also his baby…. ooooh the great ‘decider’, clear some brush will ya ‘W’

number of casualties has risen because there are more troops, there are more engagements and battles and fire fights…
now, that wasn’t so hard.. was it?
Posted by: TJ
That wouild be a great post if there was actually the surge of troops that was supposed to happen. My nephew is still waiting for those orders. So, the problem is Obama and Gates wasted 4 months on this new general only to find what McKiernan asked for in January. What a waste of time. Change huh?

What taking them out on date night? That is more of Obams speed. Or tking them out to apoligize to them?? The Liberal way. sorry teacher but did you really read the article? This reads like it was written by the white house. The MSM is so in O’s pocket we will be broke and wondering what happened to all the money before those fools wake up and relize we were taken for all the we have, plus more than half of what our children and their childern will ever have!

Julieterra: Who is paying you, you just give comments that have no basis and you have been on this thing for 2 days. Obama is a Marxist socialist and is failing as a president. All you have left is to play the victim, your messiah is failing miserably. So we play the victim. Won’t work.

I am a black man from Charlotte, North Carolina who is unafraid to say Barak Obama has already failed as a president as he apparently did as a community organizer. So far nothing has worked and he continues campaigning against George W. Bush. Looking in the rear view mirror is not going to help him, he doesn’t understand that or Emanuel and Axelrod don’t. They need help, they apparently do not have clue what they are doing. In the meantime they need to stop everything and start over and stop trying to change the nation to something worse than it has ever been.

look at barackobama- you have to give a contribution to the “President”. And you do not have to be a US Citizen and you can influence American Politics. The campaign is over but the buffoon is still running. Are these contributions paying Julieterra, or is it George Soros. Are you even a US Citizen Julieterra, or are you some ACORN SCUM that is nothing more than a leech that lives off the producers.

” you some ACORN SCUM that is nothing more than a leech that lives off the producers.”
More name calling and smear tactics. Do you fanatics not have any better tactics at all?

Jeff – apparently reaching out to nations is working as it has worked historically. I shudder to think where we would be now with a president who works unilaterally, alienating the world. No other president has operated like that and no other president has been as great a failure.

How comforting to know that we have a National Security Advisor who lives in his own little world. Great

“apparently reaching out to nations is working as it has worked historically.”
For sure! Ask Neville Chamberlain!

“As of January 2009 its troops number around 55,100 from 26 NATO, 10 partner and 2 non-NATO / non-partner countries, including contributions from Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom, Italy, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Poland and most members of the European Union and NATO also including Australia, New Zealand, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Singapore.”

Joel – Diplomacy will never be a sign of “weakness”. Weakness is defined as the inability to change and unwilling to accept feedback. The diplomat I promote. The other I fire.

President Obama is More succesful then Bush could ever dreame of at least President Obama pays attention unlike Bush when he was told about Bin Laden and him possibly attacking on 911 chose to clear brush off his ranch instead!

After I recommended therapy…

Posted by: Joel Weymouth | Sep 1, 2009 2:06:09 PM
Getting your picture taken while sitting next to Bill Clinton so that you can gain currency and be taken seriously?
PRICELESS!
Kim got exactly what he really wanted.

my military friends read
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oops, I meant recommended after they read it and I read it too.

I smell a big fat lie – just remember that Obama and company define “terrorist” as anyone that opposes his agenda. Any arrest of a tax protester now would qualify as a “terrorist” taken out of action.

Japan is making noises
Posted by: rls
are they ‘grunts’, ‘chirping’ or whistling noises?

“Talks and negotiations have begun again since the Clinton visit to free the Americans.”
You have no idea, do you?

Most of these people were educated in US Public Schools. That is were the bias began. If you indrocinate children at a young age its almost impossible to modify their opinion when they get older (look at the Palestians). Tragic events are needed for that to take place and that may not even change them. To forstall that event liberals realized that a run on the government coffers is required. It will be short lived because you can only take tax money from so many generations in the future. The way the government has been spending in the past decade we will take a loan on the 23rd centuries generation taxable income by next year.

“the Obama Administration’s unilateral disarmament”
Lie.

“North Korea is now back at the table negotiating with South Korea for better relations.”
Would you care to point me to some news article about this?
Let’s see:
North and South Korea begin high-level military talks
Oops, that’s 2007
Official: US, NOrth Korea to begin talks
um, that was 2003
North-South talk resume over reuniting separated families
Well, that was August 2008
Oh, here ya go:
Kim pardons reporters after Clinton ‘apology’
Sydney Morning Herald 8/5/09

The key words here are, “The former Marine General didn’t provide any specific numbers to back up his claim…”
I find it pathetic that the Obama administration simultaneously blames Bush for the current economic situation (while spending us into the ground!), while taking credit for the intelligence and operational capabilities that Bush promoted.
I hope Obama is prepared for change, because it will begin with Congress in 2010!

Did i hear someone invoke europe,africa, asia…..surely u must know that bush and his fellow republicans are apalling 2 the world, along with everything they stand for. Obama is only helping the rest of the world 2 put up with u!

It is neither Bush or Obama to be credited for our successes. It’s the damn military.
Unbelievable!!!

Paragraph two, quote:
Obama…”to discuss things with other rulers…”. America was not setup to have its people “RULED”. Jones gives away the thinking within this president’s circle of advisers. This type of thinking and speech is truly repugnant to all Americans. Obama truly is their Messiah. Kool-Aid on the house…

Dr.John
re: Julia’s Bush built the Coalition of the Coerced for Iraq.
Posted by: julieterra
your copying of the stated Bush goals does nothing to disprove Julia’s point…
sort of like saying that since the Bush justice dept OK’d torture, it must not be a crime because the Bush people said it wasn’t….

Next someone will try to blame Katrina on bush
Posted by: DP
nah, just for ignoring it and playing air-guitar while the city flooded

“A nation of values” Would this include Freedom, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Or the Obama “values” – dependence on government, high taxes, Marxism, the “black value system” of his church and government control of every aspect of your life?

I don’t believe a thing this administration says.

I am dumbfounded by the press (Juan Williams on FNS, being one of many to state) citing the “KSM” has now said he was just lying the the Red Cross when he was waterboarded. What do they think he is going to say?

“the Bush/Cheney framework which kept us safe for 7 years”
Bush and Cheney had control of the security apparatus for 9 months when 9/11 happened. They had numerous warnings about Bin Laden. Bush had been on holiday in Texas for the month leading up to 9/11. They surely were on their toes and did the best they could for America – it just wasn’t good enough.

And unemployment will not rise above 8% (now 16%), I will sign no bill with earmarks (signed stimulus bill with 8,000).
Obama is the LIAR IN CHIEF.

“No one can possibly believe that America is now safer because of the new restrictions on enhanced interrogation”
Enhanced interrogation techniques ended in 2005 with the Detainee Treatment Act.
What kept us safe since then?

One thing Gen Jones did not mention and none of the MSM will ever mention is that the groundwork for most of the “successes” we see now was laid during the Bush administration, using Bush policies…

“the groundwork for most of the “successes” we see now was laid during the Bush administration”
Oh you mean like the robust economy, the spectacular employment rate and the smooth relations with the rest of the world including Iran and Korea?

Apparently you do not believe Obama admin. spokesman Dennis Lockhart who says the real unemplyment rate is 16%. The stimulus bill did have 8000 earmarks.

“no one had a clue we were to be attacked”
Lie.

“Apparently you do not believe Obama admin. spokesman Dennis Lockhart who says the real unemplyment rate is 16%.”{
Yes its called the U6 measurement of unemployment.
Most people when referring to unemployment use the U3 number (what the 8% refers to).
U6 measures those claiming unemployment, those who have given up looking for a job and those who are under employed
The U6 number is a better measurement of unemployment.
Too bad right wingers didn’t like it when Bush’s economy had a U6 in double digits.
But I do like that more people are at least aware of the standard.
“The stimulus bill did have 8000 earmarks.”
Learn what an earmark is. Pork and earmarks are not one in the same not are they mutually exclusive concepts.

“We are 5000 points down from Bush’s high, 4% higher than Bush’s unemployment average”
The Dow opened at 8279 on Jan 20th 2009.
Its now at 9300.
Unemployment in Dec 2008 was 7.2%
“The U.S. economy lost 524,000 jobs in December, the 12th straight month of decline. “Nearly 2.6 million jobs were lost in 2008, with 1.9 million destroyed in just the past four months.” It’s the biggest job loss in any calendar year since 1945.”

julieterra ——– Your comments, presented with facts might sway some in your direction.

Obama has killed or saved more terrorists…oops that’s jobs…sorry

julieterra — Nice cut and paste of facts. Are you so inclined to check on the unemployment from 2009? Anyway, keep blaming Bush and living in the past, but here is one fact for you. It is an amazing coincidence that the rate you speak of and our economic downturn took place just after Congress was taken over by Democrats. You know, Congress with the purse strings. SO, I blame Republicans and Democrats for our downturn while you would pin it only on Bush which would be, well, your favorite term…. a lie.

If you want to know where the jobs went, ask Bush.
“The U.S. economy lost 524,000 jobs in December (of 2008), the 12th straight month of decline. “Nearly 2.6 million jobs were lost in 2008, with 1.9 million destroyed in just the past four months.” It’s the biggest job loss in any calendar year since 1945.”
Posted by: julieterra | Sep 1, 2009 4:06:13 PM
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People who blindly support Republicans and their policies really should take a gander at jobs created overall and per year of presidency for the past sixty years, or at the very least looks at jobs created during the Clinton years versus jobs created during the Bush years, either Bush, but particularly W. (google “Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record”)
There is no magic wand, but Obama, his admin and many members of Congress are making an honest effort to dig us out of the hole. What would be fruitful for those supposedly independent self-motivated and self-directed folks doing so much complaining would be to start a small business, vote for health care reform so you can provide it for your employees and hire people.

Alyson —- Wow, you all certainly stick together with your cut and paste. Our politicians working for the good of us in your opinion, but it is certainly not supported by the health plan right now. If it was so good, congress and the rest of them would agree to it. Can you not agree that if we required our politicians to submit to their health care plan, they would write it differently?

Therefore he was going to immediately ask Congress to make the Bush tax cuts permanent;
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I would advise everyone to google Bruce Bartlett’s piece regarding the GOP’s misplaced rage on the economy. He’s a conservative, supply-side economist who makes many good points.

“Pork and earmarks are not one in the same not are they mutually exclusive concepts.”
These are one and the same. Earmarks are how pork is put on the menu at congress.

Sorry Keif, but giving billions of dollars to the unemployed and the underdeveloped nation of ACORN is not what most would consider a tax break.

Oh, and BTW Keif, the recovery bill was only signed by Obama. He, like most of the idiots in Pelosi’s House of Horrors had no clue what was in the bill. It was actually written by George Soros and the union bosses to help propel America into Obama’s recovery program of Trickle up Poverty.

Alyson—- It is Lone Survivor and it is a good book. It also shows what we are working with on our military ventures. Now I have to go. Have a great day.

All Americans need to have there taxes raised!
You idiots have a Trillion Dollar Deficit, how else do you ever expect to pay it,
Anyone who thinks a tax cut would be a solution to Americas problem needs to get there head examined.
Companies are out sourcing more and more everyday, not just because the work is cheaper, but America can no longer even produce the same results it could in the past.
America is doomed, You guys spend all day arguing your stupid political ideology while the rest of the western world begins passing you by.
What a joke.

Tyler my friend, it’s been proven since the days of JFK, lowering taxes increases federal income and raising taxes drops federal income. Every state in the country that continues to raise taxes is going broke. Look at New York and California’s economies and then try to tell me more taxes will help. The more money the government tries to take from us, the more aggressively we aspire to keep it. The more reasonable taxation is, the easier it is to cough it up. The only way government can get out of debt is for them to realize you can’t cut the throat of the golden goose if you want them to keep laying them golden eggs!

Alyson—- It is Lone Survivor and it is a good book. It also shows what we are working with on our military ventures. Now I have to go. Have a great day.
Posted by: lfrichar | Sep 1, 2009 4:55:24 PM
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Thanks. Have a great day, too.

BUSH WATCH – EIGHT YEARS OF NO ATTACKS ON HOMELAND AFTER 911. OBAMA – JUST APPEASEMENT (WHY CAN’T WE JUST GET ALONG)AND LOTS OF BS INCLUDING THAT FROM SECURITY ADVISER. GOOD DIVERSION FROM OBAMA’S FALLING APPROVAL NUMBERS, NOW LESS THAT FIFTY PERCENT. ISN’T THAT SOME SORT OF RECORD?

“BUSH WATCH – EIGHT YEARS OF NO ATTACKS ON HOMELAND AFTER 911.
OBAMA – JUST APPEASEMENT ”
So to recap
Bush – 1 horrible terrorist attack on the homeland in which 300 people are killed.
Obama – no terrorist attacks on the homeland.
I think Obama wins that one.

ifrichar — didn’t you notice an increase in your paycheck? It’s not a large amount by paycheck, but add it up and it turns into a lot. My paycheck went up 19 dollars sometime in March or april — Obama tax cut. If you add up everybody’s tax cut amount, it adds up to billions.

Obama’s policies will neither bankrupt the country nor make us less safe.
As a matter of FACT — his policies will serve to improve the overall economy, lower the deficit and keep us MUCH more secure within our borders.
My opinion. For all of you who disagree… okay — that is merely your opinion.
Sadly, yours is looking forward with fear, mine is looking forward with hope. I am confident and secure… that alone adds to the truth of security within our borders.
PS — as Alan Simpson said “You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts”.

Elizabeth wrote: “…didn’t you notice an increase in your paycheck? It’s not a large amount by paycheck, but add it up and it turns into a lot. My paycheck went up 19 dollars sometime in March or april — Obama tax cut.”
Actually that was not a tax cut. It was just less withholding from your paycheck. Congress has yet to actually pass a corresponding tax cut. If they fail to do so, then the tax rate will remain the same and you may owe a little more tax (since less was taken out) or your tax refund may be a little less (again, since less was taken out).

“Too many of you people have no idea about war and evil–and some of you do not even think evil exists, preferring to claim people are just “misdirected” or “abused.
I wish all you sophisticated “armchair soldiers” could have spent a few days in VietNam…”
Posted by: Dave T
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I’m with you Dave.
During the first Gulf war, our squad detained this guy who claimed to be a farmer on a desolate road while his wife and kids was sitting in the car car near by. We had a strong suspicion that he had planted an IED meant for the convoy behind us but can’t proved it because he got nothing on him and in his car. So we told him we’ll let him and his family go if he would drive down the road the way that he came from.
He of course refused so we pretend to force his wife with his kids to drive down this road. That’s when he broked down and told us where he planted the explosive.
No one wants to scare the woman and children but in war, sometime ugly things can’t be avoided.
When I hear clueless libs lecturing about what is right and wrong, it makes me want to laugh in his/her face.

AND/OR TO BE ATTACKED
Posted by: Manitu
wow… we get a choice?
OK..I vote NO on future attacks on America, how ’bout you…

Obama Is Having Greater Success Taking Terrorists Out of Commission Than Bush Did?
I can’t stop laughing. Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, woo, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha………Too funny.

I think liberals/democrats are seeing the Great Obama as some kind of king but people listen up NOT ALL IS IN LOVE WITH THAT FOOL! As for terrorist attacks, Please, Bush was in OFFICE 8 YEARS NOT 6 MONTHS AND COMPARING OBAM’S 6 months in office with 8 years of no attacks is a joke! Bush did protect us for 8 years no matter how much liberals hate that fact. About the economy, Bush did bring up the debt but everyone has forgotten the fact that we had a 9/11 attack that shut down this country from one shore to the other and he bailed out the airlines because 9/11 almost destroyed them plus he gave every family memer from 9/11 attacks money, LOTS OF MONEY! The economy was weak already and 9/11 almost destroyed our economy plus we had the worse natural disasters to hit this country in history, one after the other and in each one, hands were out for MONEY! Democrats/ liberals keep forgetting they were the ones with their hands out, I guess it slipped their little minds. The American people have finally decided to wake up and see the real King Obama and real democratic party and people no matter what your great leader say’s or what liberal groups and democrats say WE’RE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY OR SHUT UP, ACCEPT IT BECAUSE WE’RE HERE TO STAY AND WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOUR GREAT LEADER THE SAME RESPECT LIBERALS SHOWED BUSH EVERYDAY HE WAS IN OFFICE, we’ll accept him and support his polices just like democrats did for 8 years, we will LOVE THE GREAT ONE AS MUCH OR MORE THEN DEMOCRATS LOVED BUSH, I’d say we’ll love him even more the democrats loved Bush. And I promise his time in office will be just as joyful as Bush’s 8 years in office, THAT I PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First, Jones makes is sound as though Pres Obama has a chrystal ball.
what Jones doesn’t state is that these intelligence gathering units have been on the ground Intel searching during the Bush Administration. These sort of tasks take time, and cannot glean the data they purport in a mere 5 months.
Secondly, he backs up his comments with no names of these high value targets purportedly apprehended or killed….This is mere Hype at best.
Lastly, “RETIRED” – Rank no exception, is just that. Your classification for security clearance is revoked and one has no further access to sensative data such as this….SO who’s HIS source ?
BOGUS Report…IMO.

lfrichar | Sep 2, 2009 9:07:18 AM – An aweful lot of warnings about the “swine flu” though! Those terror alerts are there for a reason, but Obama believes Bush did EVERYTHING wrong and will probably reverse those too. ———— How dare the World Health Organization, The CDC and President attempt to let people know that there could be a serious epidemic! Would you please reference when President Obama stated “Bush did EVERYTHING wrong”. Also and lastly Mr. Ridge has already stated that the terror alerts many times got raised for political reasons, so any reversal of that would be welcome!

Jones said “It’s very easy to leave office and say, ‘Well, no other disaster happened on the size and scope of 9/11, so we did our job well.’ Well, maybe they did, maybe they didn’t.”
Using the same logic, it is easy to say our rapid stimulus action turned this nation around. Well, maybe it did, maybe it didn’t, maybe it just hit bottom and eventually the only way is up!

The title says: Obama is having greater succes at removing terrorists than Bush.
this is true since obama replaced chainy and gang.
Posted by: John the truthful | Sep 2, 2009 6:40:18 AM
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Interesting: Bush and Chaney take out murdering terrorist and they should be brought up on War Crimes but when Obama does it he is successful and doing a good job?
Someone explain this logic, please!

How dare the World Health Organization, The CDC and President attempt to let people know that there could be a serious epidemic! Would you please reference when President Obama stated “Bush did EVERYTHING wrong”. Also and lastly Mr. Ridge has already stated that the terror alerts many times got raised for political reasons, so any reversal of that would be welcome!
Posted by: Try the truth | Sep 2, 2009 10:02:31 AM
There were also many who were in that same room who have called Ridge a liar….so maybe you can explain that? I can…..book sales=$$$$$
Now……. The CDC estimates that on average 36,000 American die from the “regular” flu annually. Where is the outcry for this? 36,000 is a lot of American lives lost, yet why not rush to deal with this issue?
The Swine Flu is a variation of the “regular” flu virus with the difference that Americans do not have immunity for this type of virus. We have “some” immunity to the “regular” flu because we are constantly exposed to it, which means that if we come down with the flu, the extent will not be as harsh as if we have never been exposed. This is why they are saying older American’s will not have it as rough because they were a one point to exposed to the Swine Flu virus decades ago when the outbreak occurred.
Funny thing (and not in a laughing manner), it is a VIRUS, which means there are NO CURES for viruses because they MUTATE constantly! What are you going to do, lock everyone down until the virus goes dormant again?
The vast majority of those who have died from the Swine Flu thus far had an UNDERLYING health issue already, which we all know increase your risk of becoming more ill or possibly dying.

Angie, just show me one thing Obama has done on his own to make America better, don’t worry I’ll wait……..nothing huh? Bush had more class in his little finger than Obama has or will ever have…the people are awake, and all plans are to take America Back!!

I think that a special prosecutor should be appointed. Just to be fair, I think that EVERY administration should have a special prosecutor appointed to review their actions while in office. If Bush/Cheney is guilty…go to jail! If Obama/Biden is guilty…go to jail!…….I’m afraid we’re going to end up with a LOT of people in jail.

Jake: I would like to refer you to the Atlanta Journal Constituion today sec. B page l where the republicans are planning to amend the state constitution to prevent democrats in Washington from enforcing health care reform in Georgia. They plan to us the 10 ammendment to prevent Georgia from having to participate in any federal reform that passes. They are deciding whether or not we get health care…who gave them that authority? Talk about socialism…this is it in spades. I think democrates need to address this problem and start making noises like the republicans do. It’s time to get off your butts if you want health care.