Holder to Appoint Prosecutor to Investigate CIA Terror Interrogations
ABC News’ Jason Ryan reports: Attorney General Eric Holder is set to name a veteran federal prosecutor to investigate CIA terror interrogations, sources tell ABC News. John Durham, who has been investigating the destruction of the CIA waterboarding tapes, will be charged with reviewing and investigating whether CIA interrogators and contractors violated U.S. torture statutes. The decision comes as the Obama administration releases a 2004 report by the CIA’s then-inspector general into harsh interrogation tactics employed under the Bush administration. Durham is a long time federal prosecutor who is counsel to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Connecticut. Holder said this will be a preliminary investigation and acknowledged in a written statement that it is likely to cause a good deal of controversy. “Assistant United States Attorney John Durham was appointed in 2008 by then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey to investigate the destruction of CIA videotapes of detainee interrogations. During the course of that investigation, Mr. Durham has gained great familiarity with much of the information that is relevant to the matter at hand. Accordingly, I have decided to expand his mandate to encompass this related review," the attorney general said, adding that Durham will "recommend to me whether there is sufficient predication for a full investigation into whether the law was violated in connection with the interrogation of certain detainees." “I fully realize that my decision to commence this preliminary review will be controversial. As Attorney General, my duty is to examine the facts and to follow the law. In this case, given all of the information currently available, it is clear to me that this review is the only responsible course of action for me to take," Holder said. The White House said in a statement that, "The president has said repeatedly that he wants to look forward, not back, and the president agrees with the attorney general that those who acted in good faith and within the scope of legal guidance should not be prosecuted. Ultimately, determinations about whether someone broke the law are made independently by the attorney general." The ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., called the move a vote of no confidence in the CIA and its director Leon Panetta. “First the White House usurps control over terrorist interrogations, signaling to the world they have lost confidence in Leon Panetta and our intelligence community, and now the Obama Justice Department launches a witch-hunt targeting the terror-fighters who have kept us safe since 9-11," Bond told ABC News in a written statement. "With a criminal investigation hanging over the agency’s head, every CIA terror fighter will be in CYA mode. With things heating up in Afghanistan and Iraq, this looking back and unwarranted 'redo' of prior Justice Department decisions couldn’t come at a worse time for the safety of our troops in harm’s way and our nation.” Most Americans oppose the appointment of a special prosecutor and an investigation into the treatment of terrorism suspects during the Bush presidency. An ABC News/Washington Post poll in July found that 54 percent of Americans oppose such an investigation, up from 47 percent in April.

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The democrats seem to be having more success against the CIA than Al Qaeda.
Posted by: tony | August 24, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
They need to let this die a quick death, not the slow one we are all suffering from. It was a war. We are handcuffed into doing the right thing, while their people are decapitating our soldiers. Give me a break
Posted by: julie gonteski | August 24, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
this administration is a bunch of morons god help us all. your completely right tony they do mote apologizing to other countrys then backing up ours this guys a 1 term president
Posted by: natale from mass. | August 24, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
That’s pointless. Nothing but a political move against the GOP, which will simply waste a lot of taxpayer dollars, for nothing.
The Dems are desperate for something to sway public opinion their way.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | August 24, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
What will this prove!!!
That the CIA threatened ‘terrorist’s’ so that we could be safe from terror!? So flipping what!!!! The CIA had its marching orders to find / stop another incident on US soil, and in my opinion they have had great success. Now some in DC want to punish those that did their job in protecting America? If those in ‘office’ would do a quarter of the job that the CIA and the military has done in protecting this country, I think there would not be any problems in this country! I know this… If any of my states ‘elected officials’ are part of this…. well they were elected into office, and they can be elected out of office!
Posted by: Mike | August 24, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Didn’t Obama say he wants to move on from this and he has no intention of prosecuting? Obama is out of touch with his own party. Pelosi, Reid, Panetta and now this guy. Health care falling apart, unemployment, CIA, Gitmo. Pick anything and there is no good coming from it. He needs to let the CIA do their thing. They are covert for a reason whether the public likes what they do or not.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Holder is a complete jerk. A waste of time and money. I am beginning to believe it is to take our minds off the healthcare mess – I couldn’t comprehend before that an administration would put the country at risk and individuals from the CIA at risk for purely political reasons. I was wrong.
Posted by: cam | August 24, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
tony –That was freekin’ funny!
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
This is the guy who let the Man off “scott free”, that intimidated voters at the polling place in Philadelphia, Pa last year. This should be a real circus.
Posted by: mojo | August 24, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
This is unbelievable. This whole administration seems to be willing to put anything on the line to improve what is their spiraling downfall in popularity–including our safety. What the heck is this country going to look like in 4 years. I’m terribly frightened. this is not the change I voted for.
Posted by: Bunzer | August 24, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
April 23rd 2009 “”"”Obama held a private meeting with CIA Director Leon Panetta and about 50 agents, assuring them once again that there will be no prosecutions or investigations directed at CIA officials.”"”"”
I thought I heard this before. What is this idiot trying to do now? He just allowed a terrorist out and now this? What a freekin’ idiot.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
This is ridiculous. It seems to me that this administration is doing everything they can to turn the American citizens of both political parties against them. When will they learn that most Americans do not support this waste of time and government funds to try to punish people for doing their jobs. If anyone is ultimately charged, I will take to the streets and protest for the first time in my life (if I don’t do it before then over my concerns about Obamacare.
Posted by: JudyA | August 24, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors. And then there’s the CIA. You Holder, you’re about to enter the world of the unemployed…just like your boss…”The One.”
Even IF Bush told them to do it, you can’t prosecute…Executive Priviledge, numbnuts. But go ahead, see what the umployment pay is for a FORMER AG
Posted by: Lee | August 24, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Another complete lie by our president, “”"”"Obama reiterated in strong terms that not only will his administration not investigate torture, it will protect the agents who carried it out. “We will protect your identities and your security as you vigorously pursue your missions,” he said.
“I understand that it’s hard when you are asked to protect the American people against people who have no scruples, and would willingly and gladly kill innocents,” Obama continued. “Al-Qaida’s not constrained by a constitution. Many of our adversaries are not constrained by a belief in freedom of speech or representation in court or rule of law.”
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
hang in there Gitmo’s, and all other terrorists, you have a friend in the White House.
Posted by: johnthemon | August 24, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Brandon ——— I am an independent, but did you bother to read the GOP health care plan? Did you know they wanted more stimulus money for the small business? Do you know how much our small businesses contribute to our economy? Before you start your partisan rhetoric, make sure you get informed for both sides. It doesn’t appear your messiah’s plan is going over well either. Ask yourself why the Dems are not just going to ram it through. If they did, who would be to blame if it goes wrong?
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Torture doen’t work that’s why we don’t use it unless you are republicans trying to scare people. Al Qaeda hit us and killed 3,000 people during Republican rule. Our soldiers will tell you we don’t do that cuz were better than they are. The truth is conservatives are just like Al Qaeda…scared, insecure and religious.
Posted by: dave | August 24, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
They will destroy us from within….they have a friend in the Whitehouse now….and the DOJ!!!! God help us!!!!
Posted by: Kathy in Pa. | August 24, 2009, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Are you people serious? Baby Bush and the GOP got it wrong when they deployed my military brothers and sisters to go into harms way because of a lie. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraqi! Now you’re going to defend the CIA for war crimes against the enemy? The Geneva Conventions applies to all government agencies in the US. If you have ever served in the US Armed Services, you would know that there is a code of conduct we MUST all follow. If we do not, this makes us no better than our enemies.
Posted by: ExSoldier | August 24, 2009, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
The Republicans always say, “If you commit no crime, you have nothing to worry about.” So Bush officials shouldn’t worry about anything.
Posted by: bobfelsing | August 24, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
THIS ADMINISTRATION IS THE BIGGEST BUNCH OF IDIOTS I HAVE EVER SEEN. Unfortunatly we the people will end up paying the price for stupidity.
Posted by: billy bob | August 24, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
BBC News April 17th 2009 “CIA agents who used harsh interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects during the Bush era will not be prosecuted, US President Barack Obama has said.”
I wonder who offered Holder enough to make this happen. C’mon Obama, let’s see your first firing.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Democrat witch hunt. When you take them to trial, you’ll have to declassify the information gathered from the torture (yeah, yeah, info gathered from torture is unreliable, so it won’t hurt to tell us what the terrorist said during the torture) If I were lock-step GOP, I’d believe this to be good news, because next time, the terrorist won’t live to whine to the next democrat elected.
Posted by: Ozarkess | August 24, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
ObamaCare and economy going badly so…
Holder checks into torture
War in Afghanistan going badly
Swine flu concerns
Nice to have some well-timed “blame Bush” headlines to move the dismal failure of the Obama administration off the front page.
Posted by: Don | August 24, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
I am supportive of this action. We need to have this issue closed and if we need an investigation to do it…..DO IT! …………..I feel for all of you intelligent Americans who distort the statements of our President and others that he has appointed.
Posted by: Hanan | August 24, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Posted by: dave “”"”Al Qaeda hit us and killed 3,000 people during Republican rule “”"”"
That’s like blaming this economy on this administration. 911 happened because of 2 different administrations and a flawed immigration policy. Planning and training for 4 years prior to the attack. But it sounds much better for you to slam others doesn’t it. Do you really think this is going to ensure the CIA can keep us any safer? If all this is released, there won’t be an agency in the world sharing information with us. How long did you serve in the military? Why did you get out?
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
This guy Holder and his ilk are a disaster. The irresponsible bleeding heart mentality will further make the US weak and vulnerable.I wonder if Obama is really running things or was he just a front man for the Chicago mob who want to steer the country towards a socialist defeated nation. For me, the Bush / Cheney boys, are beginning to look good.
Posted by: Freedtoo | August 24, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
And how much is this investigation going to cost the American taxpayers? Can we not use our tax dollars to take care of Americans at this point, not worry about the rights of terrorists?
Posted by: btalking | August 24, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Posted by: Hanan”"”"”"”"”We need to have this issue closed and if we need an investigation to do it”"”"”"” Did you not read the reports I have posted? Do you realize the CIA is supposed to be a covert operation and has been permanently damaged by this action? Do you not realize this should never have been an issue except the Dems are looking for any reason for a witch hunt? If those are distortions of the truth, please point out where these statements are incorrect and I will certainly explain them further to you.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Hanan, this won’t make our determined enemy ‘go away’. This is what you, and others like you, think. Democrats with their stellar record on women’s rights, alone, places you directly in Al Qaeda cross-hairs. This is why Al Qaeda planned 911 thru the last years of the Clinton administration. It wasn’t Clinton’s fault, and it wasn’t Bush’s fault. We just have a determined and common enemy.
Posted by: Old_Blood_N_Guts | August 24, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Is this really something that I want to spend my tax dollars on at this time?? NO!!! Who is going to pay for this ridiculous witchhunt?? Also, what type of tactics do you think that the crazy terrorists would use against us? Has anyone read about the recent massacre that occurred in Iraq at the Mulhadeen Iranian camps?? We are dealing with beasts here that intend to kill every last “infidel” they can (that means us people)!!! WE DON’T WANT TO USE OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR THIS INVESTIGATION!!! It is pointless!!!
Posted by: fairpolitics2009 | August 24, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Hanan—-Obama stated, “I think that we should be looking forward and not backwards. I do worry about this getting so politicized that we cannot function effectively, and it hampers our ability to carry out critical national security operations.”
Do you think it is hampering? Obama was actually right on this one and Holder is just going to disregard that.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Unbelievable. All you posting here that we should just ignore the mandates of the Constitution and established law and let the CIA do whatever they want when it comes to interrogating SUSPECTS. Then in the next breath, you wing nuts complain about so-called “activist” judges who ignore the Constitution. It’s hard to believe that any true American would actually condone even the threat of rape of an innocent human being. This is more about protecting the idiots you elected into office than it is about protecting the citizens of this country. Hypocrites, the whole lot of you are.
Posted by: libertyrulz | August 24, 2009, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Dave, you’re missing the point, The CIA committed war crimes plain and simple. Read the Third Geneva Convention. I can care less for the Dems or Reps. I was once a soldier who upheld the law. I didn’t agree with some of my missions, but I took an oath to defend this Country from all enemies foreign and domestic and did so honorably and with great integrity. So did other GOOD soldier before me. Let’s stop bashing each other and see this for what it is – “A Crime”.
Posted by: ExSoldier | August 24, 2009, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Empty GITMO…!
Free al Qaeda..!
Jail the CIA…!
Change you can believe in. At least 61 released GITMO detainees have returned to the jihad. The CIA caught terrorists and made them afraid that something bad might happen to them. Then nothing bad happened to them. Oh, the shame. Boo-hoo.
Did you see that Iran is going to spend $20 million investigating possible “violations of human rights” by the U.S.? (As defined by radical Islamic terrorist sponsors.) Once again, the democrats and the radical ayatollahs are on the same page. I think they should pool their resources, since they have the same goals. It’d be thrifty of them. I’m on our side. On whose side are you? It takes a lot of work to get the reputation the democrats have on national security. But they’ve earned it. In war, they always choose the other side. Moscow or Mecca, it makes no difference to them. They’re against us. They’re for the enemy. And it’s always because they are better than everyone else.
Posted by: Crusher | August 24, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
I think they should re-investigate the Anthrax crime. I know in my heart that Rumsfeld was involved.
Posted by: tom | August 24, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Republicans are often quick to point to the US as a shining beacon of democracy and as an example to the world of decency and respect for human rights. That is, until they’re afraid. Then they have no problem stooping to the depths of those they criticize.
Posted by: plantain_11 | August 24, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
I feel sorry for anyone in service to our country during a democrat administration. I grew up in a working class democratic family and used to know what it meant to be a democrat. The bad apples are now spoiling the whole barrel. This all by itself hurts America.
Posted by: teri | August 24, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
all BO has accomplished is to spend our money and name “czars” and special prosecutors. when is this administration going to do something productive that really improves things and reduces my tax bill???? I guess I need to get back on my meds for expecting something like that last statement.
Posted by: fctex | August 24, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
would all of you like to have what was done to some of these prisoners.The thing is some of these people had nothing to do with 9/11 and this makes one wonder where cheney and rove will hide and what tactics they will use to cya.If we had gone after the people who did the terrorising it would be a different thing instead we went after a lie about wmd and look where it got us no where.
Posted by: hellian | August 24, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
When you have lost political clout, on health care, then you resort to dirty politics, in a witch hunt to try and soil the Republicans.
Disgusting political tripe. Mr. Holder should be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | August 24, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
libertyrulz and ExSoldier———- As I stated, the CIA is supposed to be a covert operation which has been successfully taken down by this administration. ANY information, intelligence or operations previously shared with other institutions will be no more. Freedom is a dirty job and you would give rights to people who would just slice your throat. Go hug a tree and leave our CIA alone. It will take years for them to function without the fear of prosecution. You do realize that since the CIA was started, they have carried out thousands of such missions to keep us safe? Wake up and get into reality and out of your dream perfect world.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Democrats define loud music as “torture.”
I wonder what they’re listening to.
Posted by: Crusher | August 24, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Frichar, yeah, that’s it. We really got that Bin Laden guy. Kinda like the Russians “got him” when they “forced him to live in a cave.” Hilarious. No wonder Glenn Beck has an audience. Some people will believe whatever you tell them. We made him live in a cave!!! MIssion Accomplished!!!
Posted by: REality Check | August 24, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Every time we turn our back to the Rule of Law and decide to let a government agency do what they will, and not only what the law allows, it brings us one step closer to anarchy.
Posted by: Jaylah | August 24, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
lfrichar: so then the economic mess is Bush’s fault? you admit it?
Posted by: JustWondering | August 24, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
plantain_11 —– Both reps and dems were in charge since the CIA ws founded. You make it sound like they just started this type of behavior. We have the CIA for a reason, covert ops. Well, we had. Thank you Mr, Holder for weakening our country even further.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
The constitution’s seperation of powers states that Congress makes the laws; and while the President has veto powers, he has no business promoting any new laws. New laws are made by congress, carried out by the executive branch,and ajudicated by the judical branch. The President’s job is to enforece the laws we already have, keep our country safe, keep illegal intruders (immigrats) out of our country and to run the government within the budget he and Congress have approved. How’s he doing on these tasks? I’d give him an F, or impeach him or both. He has no business promoting things like public health care or any other socialist program he and his posse have dreamed up. It’s time for him to start performing the real job or the President of the United States of America. By the way: Who’s in charge while he is on vacation? Joe Biden ? Heaven help us.
Posted by: Dick | August 24, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
hellian — First of all, live for today and from here on. You are still dwelling on the past. In the USAF I was waterboarded, do you know why? It wasn’t to break me, it was to show me a small part of what our enemy would do to us if captured. Luckily, I wasn’t captured and I will tell you those techniques will get results much more than name, rank and serial number. Every country has their covert operations that will do much worse, but now, we have lost ours. We can’t expect the CIA to be nearly as effective with the marching orders they have today. That is a fact.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
America is a set of values and ideals that we are always striving to protect. As soon as we abandon our values, we cease to be Americans.
If you truly love your country, you will not tolerate torture.
Posted by: EJay | August 24, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
The democrats seem to be having more success against the CIA than Al Qaeda.
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Hmmm….seems to me the Bush administration didn’t have much success for 8 years in spite of some semi-legal investigation techniques…I am not for looking backwards…..but seems to me if the Bush administration had done things completely above board it would be a non-issue…
Posted by: indy_voter | August 24, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Healthcare reform is in the crapper and the gov’t reps are taking it on the chin in their home districts while Obama is on vacay. AG Eric Holder chooses today as the best time for this announcement. Something seems fishy and it’s the stink of this administration’s distraction tactics!!!WE DON’T WANT OUR TAX MONEY USED FOR THIS WITCHHUNT!!!!
Posted by: fairpolitics2009 | August 24, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
So, we, as a nation, should be immune from the consequenses of committing war crimes? Is that a standard that we’d be willing to prevail if and when our peole are being interrogated while in captivity? We need to think long and hard about how to handle this as it seems Mr. Holder is willing to do. Some of you, with your simplistic, knee-jerk solutions are only looking at the short view of what we’re dealing with. Besides, some people’s ideas vary depending on which party was in power when the alledged actions were taking place.
Posted by: Mike In Carolina | August 24, 2009, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Hey Gwilsing – The Justice Department is NOT part of the Judicial branch, it is part of the Executive branch, a cabinet of the President’s administration. The Attorney General reports to the President, not the Supreme Court.
Read the Constitution and refrain from lying to make your political points.
Posted by: Nevets101 | August 24, 2009, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
All the covert CIA guys should just come in and sit around in Langley. They follow orders and then they get nailed for that. How can anyone in the CIA ever follow orders again if they are going to have to get an attorney every time they do? Morale has to be at rock bottom within the CIA ranks. I think this Administration is slowly trying to dismantle the America we all know whether it is business, the armed services or the intelligence community. They are more dangerous to America than our foreign enemies.
Posted by: Amazing | August 24, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
“Tom” knows is his heart that Donald Rumsfeld is behind the anthrax attacks. My God. Look what the Left has done to America. And they’re just getting warmed up. Tom, your are but pawn in game of life. Like Mongo. But you have been used by extremists who have confused you. You are a sad dupe in the unwitting service of slave drivers who lead a hate cult called The Left. 100 million dead, and growing…
Posted by: Crusher | August 24, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
lfrichar – Remember this word – Integrity! For it is the word that use to define our nation. Hopefully God will empower our leaders to stave to have this word define our nation again. No more comments from ExSoldier…
Posted by: ExSoldier | August 24, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
JustWondering ———- Economic mess is the fault of our government and some greedy rich. Congress and the WH were fighting about things and not doing it. Here is something sure to upset you: J. Carter, Community Reinvestment Act. B. Clinton and J Reno, threatened banks with legal action if they did not extend housing loans to lower income. F. Raines was put in charge of Fannie May and bought up bad loans. He then falsified reports and then collected $90 million in 5 years from it. C. Dodd, suppressed efforts by Bush and republicans to rein in corruption at Fannie and Freddie after he received campaign contributions by both. B Franks, also suppressed evidence of corruption from congress and senate and WH. B Obama as an attorney filed law suits against banks on behalf of ACORN in order to force banks to give lower income loans. As a senator, he also suppressed efforts by the reps and Bush to investigate Fannie and Freddie.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Cheap political move. More evidence Barak is power thirsty, politically shameless, and unworthy of respect. This move, I believe, is calculated to distract attention from his many recent blunders, appease his left fringe soul-mates, and overwhelm his opposition with many issue to counteract all at once.
Posted by: keys2truth | August 24, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
There is absolutely nothing that surprises me about how everything that comes out of these Republicans is worthless garbage. If laws were broken, then we have a legal and moral obligation to prosecute wrongdoing. If it were up to these nutjobs, you would have serial killers hiding under their covers, all in the name of “national security”. I would love to see how willing they are forgive anyone who tortures them or their families. Pathetic nut jobs.
Posted by: jake | August 24, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
INDY_VOTER YOU ARE LOOKING BACK LOOK WHATS IN FRONT OF YOU NOW THE PRESIDENT IS JUST DOING THIS BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE PUBLIC PLAN IS NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS WAY IF HE DOES THIS IT
Posted by: natale from mass. | August 24, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
indy_voter —– According to your simple thought, Clinton must have been a foreign policy failure. We haven’t had any attacks post 911. Would you rather we did? Me neither.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Hahaha The Bush Administration is getting busted and no one likes it. ahahaha Reality Check has it right.
Posted by: Andrea | August 24, 2009, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
You libs don’t get it!
The law is NOT supposed to apply to republican voting, gun carrying, bible thumbing “patriots.
This country needs another Bush in office so we can start looking the other way again!
Posted by: Rush Limbaugh Zombie | August 24, 2009, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Steve and Jake—- You apparently have no idea of the need for our CIA. Obama has rendered them even less effective than the FBI at the moment so why have them? Freedom is a dirty job, but somebody has to do it. While you both appear to be of good moral standards, that is not true reality when someone would walk up to you, ask for directions and then promptly press a button for you and your coworkers to enjoy a close up 20 pound explosion of TNT. So, this is your reality check, the world isn’t moral and we need someone equal to or greater than they are. Why have the greatest military ever? So the other guys won’t come after you. It seems to work very well.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
The more we learn about the Bush Administration the dirtier it is. So far all the investigations have been warranted. I’m glad to see Holder appoint a Special Prosecutor. We are a nation of laws. If you don’t enforce them you might as well not have them.
Posted by: Mark S | August 24, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
What a complete waste of taxpayer dollars. Cap and Trade, Health Care, Needless investigatons, it never ends. I hope America is proud of who they elected. Obama is going to destroy what made America great. Then again that probably is his plan
Posted by: Joe | August 24, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
We are a nation of laws. If you don’t enforce them you might as well not have them.
Posted by: Mark S
Then please Mark, explain to me why we killed 3 Somali pirates by shooting them directly in the head execution style? You people simply don’t want to admit that it is a dangerous world out there and you are only living in here. I want them and need them on that wall! Sound familiar? People going around with bombs strapped to them don’t have any morals. The mere fact they do it in the name of religion should clue you in to that. Wake up!
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
If I were a CIA operative now, I would make sure we had shoot to kill orders before custody orders. They can’t trust their own employer anymore.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 24, 2009, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Holder is a complete jerk. A waste of time and money. I am beginning to believe it is to take our minds off the healthcare mess – I couldn’t comprehend before that an administration would put the country at risk and individuals from the CIA at risk for purely political reasons. I was wrong. –Cam
Cam does Valerie Plame ring a bell? Scooter Libby–Robert Novak. Work on your comprehension.
Posted by: Kenneth | August 24, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Many people in the US don’t think much of the rule of law.
Posted by: Kenneth | August 24, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
We should gather up these bleeding heart liberals and send them to Afghanistan so they can join their terrorist brothers. And as for Obama’s destruction of this country; why are we so shocked? This guy needs to step down. We need to Step him down.
Posted by: cherriepie | August 24, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
This administration is turning into a BIGGER JOKE then the Bush administration.
I wonder how MUCH money we going to waste on this one? AND GET NOTHING DONE!
Posted by: ajax659 | August 24, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
America has an Attorney General. It’s his call, and if there is a crime, against the very Geneva Convention agreement…… that AMERICA intiated, then why not bring out the TRUTH and let the chips fall where they may. The prior administration was a “rogue” administration…. if that’s OK with some of the Angry Maroons, then where is Your TRUTH?
Posted by: tychisum | August 24, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
If the CIA agents broke the law then they should go to jail. Are we not nation of laws? Or is is just laws that we agree with
Posted by: pat | August 24, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Everyone blaming the admin for this haven’t been paying attention or only want to hear what they believe – not reality. This effort is coming from the pros at the Justice Dept., not the WH.
The JD doesn’t get their marching orders from the Oval Office anymore.
Posted by: OB-Wan222 | August 24, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Now that the White House has set up a “special interrogaton unit” that reports directly to the White House, it has set itself up for future investigations into misdoing by any interrogators.
The CIA has been demoted to “key player” in interrogating terror suspects.
Interesting how Bush was accused of being power hungry but Obama’s the one concentrating more and more power into the executive branch.
Posted by: MizFW | August 24, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
“…explain to me why we killed 3 Somali pirates by shooting them directly in the head execution style?”
Eh, because they were holding hostages, maybe? Not because someone pointed a finger at them to get the reward money – which in many cases, ended up in dragging in people that had nothing to do with terrorists or crime.
“I want them and need them on that wall! Sound familiar?”
Yes, its from a Hollywood fantasy. Don’t tell me that you now think that Hollywood is a source of good ideas for society? America is different from other countries. It was founded on a different idea – revolution against a monarch. It was established with different ideas – equality and freedom. And it tries to live up to the different ideas – liberty and justice FOR ALL.
“People going around with bombs strapped to them don’t have any morals.”
And we do – that’s what makes us different. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t defend morality by being immoral.
Posted by: OB-Wan222 | August 24, 2009, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Kenneth “Many people in the US don’t think much of the rule of law”______The soldier/pilot who operates and pulls the trigger on those (Obama Ordered )drones – which invade Pakistani air space, – are operating as: Judge, Jury, and most importantly EXECUTIONER! And you’re right, I do not wish to apply one single law to Al Qaeda members, or the people who harbor them. Obama’s drone pilots can rest assured that a future republican will not prosecute them
Posted by: Ozarkess | August 24, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Just want we need to spend more time and money upon and hope we cna get some one for obstruction of justice with confusing their stories.
We are losing the war in Afghanistan and letting the taliban regroup. We need to focus our efforts and resources on winning over there. this is not the way to do it to have everyone involved needing to hire attorneys.
It will put lots of lawyers to work.
Posted by: scott jeffries | August 24, 2009, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Yes – let’s divert the attention away from a floundering administration, the economy and health care. Make sure you get to the truth – Geitener, Rangel and Dodd could help with the integrity issues.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | August 24, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
“Obama’s drone pilots can rest assured that a future republican will not prosecute them.”
Those pilots are soldiers and like me they were instructed in boot camp that there are two kinds of orders – legal ones and illegal ones.
That’s why we have RULES of engagement, so a soldier knows that when he’s told to shoot a bound prisoner in the head or massacre a village that that is an illegal order.
That’s why cover has been given to those that followed orders that were in operation at the time. In case you didn’t read the article it refers to those that exceeded even those RULES and made up their own.
Posted by: OB-Wan222 | August 24, 2009, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
The same general group of people that whine incessantly about judges legislating from the bench hardly change the tone of their whine when those responsible for enforcing (legislated) laws and presidential directives do their duty.
Posted by: Kenneth | August 24, 2009, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
OB-Wann, you could understand the confusion though. During the past 8 years, the “justice” department was simply a political extension of the White House. Bush flacks don’t understand why anyone would run things differently.
Posted by: Reality Check | August 24, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
A full investigation of the CIA and the contractors involved is the right thing to do. No one is above the law. The worst thing imaginable that could happen is for high ranking government and military officials to do is to break the law and get away with it by placing the blame lower ranking subordinates who follow orders. Get the facts.
Posted by: ronnie | August 24, 2009, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
I see from many comments here that a lot of people want to put this garbage under the rug.I guess that they are afraid of the consequences of learning the truth. Many of the so called terrorists were in fact not terrorists at all and we killed by their captors. the cia and blackwater contractors are the real terrorists and should be jailed for “murder”. America has an “army” and ONLY the US Army should be involved in “war”.I would personally feel more safe if there was no CIA!
Posted by: john copeland | August 24, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Oh come on Ozarkess, he just pointed out the reason why you were wrong. Take you medicine like an adult and try to come back smarter. Give it the ole sixth grade try!
Posted by: Kenneth | August 24, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
I’m with you John Copeland on not using mercenaries. I’d like to making sure elected leaders keep the CIA under conrol-but some one coulda slipped me some LSD.
Posted by: Kenneth | August 24, 2009, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Any one have an idea on where John McCain stands on torture? He was almost the president.
Any one care what Palin can see from where she stands?
Posted by: Kenneth | August 24, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Kenneth – “I’d like to making sure elected leaders keep the CIA under conrol-but some one coulda slipped me some LSD”_____I was going to reason with you, until I read that post, .. . .
Posted by: Ozarkess | August 24, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Nevets101 , the job is an executive appointment. But it duties are Judicial… you need to get a clue… Law enforcement is a component of the Judicial Branch… ALSO… NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW… NO ONE…
Posted by: Gwilsing | August 24, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Nevets101 LIES ARE WHAT REPUBLICAN DO WHEN THE TRUTH MAKES THEMSELVE LOOK LIKE THE EXTREMIST THEY ARE QUICKLY BECOMING… YOU PROMOTE AMERICAN DEATH PURSUANT TO A POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY… THAT EXTREMISM… STOP KILLING THE AMERICAN DREAM WITH YOUR CONTINUED FAILED BELIEFS. LOOK AT YOUR HISTORY OF CONTROLLING CONGRESS AND SEE HOW OUR SYSTEM DIES A SLOW REPUBLICAN DEATH…
Posted by: Gwilsing | August 24, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
What a waste of time, anything to distract from the health care issue and keep MSM busy. Perhaps Holder could investigate Janet Reno and his actions at Waco.
Posted by: Downwithsocialism | August 24, 2009, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Wow..seems as if most of the Bush lap dog Republicans claim that such an investigation ‘will destroy us from within.” Duh, yeah! Bush starts a phony war…taps our phones…lets Cheny, Rove, Rumsfeld break laws….has spent blllions and billions with open budgets with private contractors like a dunken, welll…idiot…. while Americans lost their jobs…income, homes et al and in 8 years the “great decider” – who made A L L the decisions that caused this mess – stumbles around making speeches to rich, white, conservative millionaires re: that history will soon acknowledhe his “greatness!” Yeah..right….no one should be respponsible and held accountable for this on going tragedy, right? Blame Obama…it’s his fault right? WE give a football player and year in the slammer for shooting himself in the leg at a bar…..Bush is responsible for torture, lying, and untold THOUSANDS of civilian and military death, destruction, breaking laws..and he is not held responsible??!! M A D N E S S ! ! ! !
BUSH HAS ALREADY DESTROYED MORE ILLEGALLY THAN ANY LEGAL GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATIONS WILL “DESTROY!!
Posted by: hwoodude | August 24, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
We’ve become a country that considers meaningless threats torture. God help our children and grandchildren.
Posted by: Joan | August 25, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am
So far, the torturers have been given a free pass. As long as this continues, the USA has zero credibility when it criticizes human rights violations in other countries. Indeed, many dictatorships are following our lead and using the “threat of terrorism” as a justification for torture.
Many of the republicans who whine about following the constitution, would be the first to beg for their human rights if they were tortured.
Posted by: Law&Order | August 25, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am
This is absolutely nuts! Did we get the info we need Did we stop another assault on our people. They should hire Jack.
Posted by: mikey | August 25, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Obama can’t go soon enough….IMPEACH HIM. I hope when so many corrupt politicians are forced out next election,that the first thing the new Congress does is launch impeachment proceding against Obama..and then jail him and his marxist fascist crooked terrorist buddies.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | August 25, 2009, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Some would like to sweep it all under the rug and pretend it never happened. This is quite understandable; it is hard to face the ugly truth.
Until the torturers are prosecuted, the USA simply has no moral authority in the world.
I am hopeful that justice will prevail.
Posted by: Law&Order | August 25, 2009, 12:52 am 12:52 am
I wonder who the next Torture CZAR is gonna’ be, another acquaintance from the hood in Chicago….? ? ?
Will he be in charge of Panetta
Posted by: Igor | August 25, 2009, 1:28 am 1:28 am
It is sad that “conservatives,” of all people, have let terrorists bully them into abandoning the rule of American law. Real conservatives– and someday we will see them again in this country– have the moral courage to stand by our civil liberties and our human obligations even when this is unpleasant, and maybe dangerous to do. They are also loyal enough to this country to accept the government that its majority chooses. Clearly, not everyone is strong enough to that today. But we will see the return of those with “the right stuff.”
Posted by: goldwater | August 25, 2009, 2:15 am 2:15 am
I don’t want to hear the President disagrees with him, If the President of the United States does not want his attorney general to do something all he must do is say NO. It’s just that Obama wants to appear to be against this but give the go ahead behind closed doors.
Chicago Style!!!
Posted by: hkdakota | August 25, 2009, 6:19 am 6:19 am
Regardless of the justifications used by the Bush administration, torture is and remains os, illegal. Those responsible should be held accountable and that includes Mr. Cheney, who most likely participated. The Bush administration seized unprecedented presidential powers, in this area and others, that steered us away from a democracy. It should be reversed and steps taken to make sure no other president, Democrat or Republican, can ever do this again.
Posted by: DaveM | August 25, 2009, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda and Taliban
soulmates must be laughing their
butts off at President Obama and his
nitwitted administration!
The president and his clueless
Attorney General appear to be
“hell bent” on insuring another
terrorist attack on our soil.
Is Partisan Political Gain Worth
Risking The Lives of Our Citizens?
2010 and 2012 can’t come soon enough!
You are So Out of Here!
Posted by: reaganfan | August 25, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am
I may agree that those who broke the law should be punished, that said Obama is trying to have it both ways.I want a President who will stand up for what he believes not what he thinks will get him votes!!!
Posted by: hkdakota | August 25, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Mr President, do your cabinet appointees consult you prior to announcing their agendas? The majority of the American public will not support this type of investigation. This whole investigation is ridiculous!! We were at WAR and still are. Is there any common sense out there??????
Posted by: tangledweb | August 25, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Exsoldier: Question: When Chemical Ali killed thousands of Kurds with chemical weapons, is that not called weapons of mass destruction, or do Kurds not count???
Posted by: Lizzie | August 25, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Obama needs to keep Rambo and Van Jones busy!
In the USSR, if you were a contra to the regime, you were anti-communist! Now, if you are against Pres. Obama’s regime, you are a racist!
Americans took Americans to the Totalitarian regime that we live in..CIA investigations are just the beginning,wait for the Elite White House Special Forces that are going to descend upon us. He picked Abraham Lincoln on his innagural address because he invisions a new civil war. The left has a hate of country that will ultimately win because radicals will destroy the “Imperialistic US”, de-develop the country and population control(us killing eachother) will be implemented. Even LaRouche is against Obama and he is a Marxist-Lenninlist.
Posted by: ELCHE | August 25, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
I wonder if the people inflicting the “strong means of interrogation” would be so much in favor if they were the ones undergoing it. Torture is wrong, there is no excuse for lapsing into barbarity just because the opponent has done wrong.We are either a civilized nation or we are not. Which is it?
Posted by: Leigh Fraser | August 25, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
It seems that the CIA will get the blame no matter what and then when they can not get people to work for them it is the American people that will pay for it. Look at the large amount of money that we will be asked to lay out now they want to have the people done harm by this action. It will make no differnce how it comes out the CIA will get a black eye.
Posted by: Bondsman | August 25, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
How do you stop the far-right and Republicans from their compulsive lying?…they do this even though they know we can all see right through them.
I’ve pondered this for years now. Then it came me out of the blue…I guess from listening to the reasons for their enthusiastic support for torture.
We need to physically torture them until they stop lying!…Nay, they would only say what we wanted them to say to get us to stop the torture. Well, what is wrong with that?…It would stop their lying…and prove that the torture was a good thing to do to them!
Yes, that’s what we need to do to the Republicans…for the good of the country!
For the far-right, after they stop their lying, immediately air-drop them on the Taliban…they really need to be with their own kind!
Posted by: ErnestNM | August 26, 2009, 12:41 am 12:41 am
They will destroy us from within….they have a friend in the Whitehouse now….and the DOJ!!!! God help us!!!!
Posted by: Kathy in Pa. | Aug 24, 2009 4:12:01 PM
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breaking news Kathy, we had an election, Bush is no longer in the White House……..
Posted by: dk | August 26, 2009, 2:12 am 2:12 am
And how much is this investigation going to cost the American taxpayers? Can we not use our tax dollars to take care of Americans at this point, not worry about the rights of terrorists?
Posted by: btalking | Aug 24, 2009 4:23:59 PM
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funny, I didn’t hear you screaming when we were wasting millions regarding a stain on a blue dress but somehow that was more justified than breaking the Geneva Conventions? Interesting how that works. I wish someone could please explain that to us sensibly…..
Posted by: dk | August 26, 2009, 2:17 am 2:17 am
“…that is not true reality when someone would walk up to you, ask for directions and then promptly press a button for you and your coworkers to enjoy a close up 20 pound explosion of TNT.”——————because that happens so often in the US. If you people are so afraid to go through everyday life then please feel free to get out of my country. It’ll be a much better and safer place without all of your hatred and the weapons that come with it……don’t let the door hit ya..
Posted by: dk | August 26, 2009, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Apparently the AG doing the job he has sworn to do upsets the right. Holder is bound by the laws of this land and the Constitution, many of you love to misquote. So when he see’s these laws and international law have been broken you want him to ignore it? Or is that just when it involves a Republican admin?
Posted by: Try the truth | August 26, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am