Jewish Groups Assail Nazi Comparisons Made by Conservatives in Health Care Debate

A rose called by any name is still a rose

Yeah,yeah…Oblahblah isn’t smart enought to be compared to Hitler….and the Dem-witts don’t have the guts to be nazi’s….remeber…we out here in the heartland are the ones clinging to our guns and religion…..Obama is just a slick talkin’ con artist who has been dolling out money to the rabble who elected him…Acorn, Moveon.org, Fannie & Freddie, Unions, do I need to go on…

If they would have condemned Pelosi and Limbaugh, I would agree with them. Just Limbaugh? That doesn’t make sense.

The GOP has really stepped in it when they get slammed by Foxman…

Pillosee!!!Astro turf isn’t real grass, it doesn’t die and go away!Our fore fathers have died and gone away, yet that astro turf is their spirt, the spirt of REAL amricans.

ACORN enforcers @ the polls in Nov. 08,
in para military gear look like the bad guy’s to me, and of course bring up obamas desire to create a civilian security force, are more lies and attempts to foul his nest. And of course all of his public statements about a well funded CSF to equal our military, were all taken out of context.

Did the media spend a lot of time explaining and defending legislation that came out Bush White House? Did they advocate for him, were they even handed or did they oppose his agenda?

It is more than apparent that the left is trying to shut down all dialogue with regards to health care.
They have unleashed union thugs to intimidate and cause violence in heretofor passionate but peaceful meetings.
Wake up and listen, Dems, don’t shut up your neighbors, families and co-workers.

“GOP Hate Rallies worked for Sarah Palin. It’s the new wave of communication for the Republican Party.”
I wouldn’t say they worked.
They probably did more to push undecideds towards Obama than rally the insane elements of the base.

Eventually someone will get seriously hurt. It is only a matter of time.

The Nazi image carries its power because of the image inside the circle, not because of its form. Comparing two American symbols such as the greek symbol of medicine, and Obama’s “O’ logo is near hilarity. And I say that as someone who is not a democrat. This kind of foolishness entertains people and turns us more into barking dogs that humans willing to focus on the real problems at hand. My opinion is you stop pressuring the president to rid his programs of common symbols and put the heat on for him to begin working on the welfare of our country.

Nancy Pelosi is a conservative?

RUSH IS RIGHT!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!

The Nazis were socialists (National Socialist German Worker’s Party)….
Liberals are nazis identical twins (they both HATE capitalism and they both want gov’t to control EVERYTHING), and somehow the constitution-loving conservatives are labeled as carrying swastikas?
It seems saul alinsky’s pupil, barry obama, has learned quite well the art of distraction to take control by any means necessary.
ACORN members are the modern day brownshirts, and we have just elected their leader ernst rohm to the white house.

Where was the ADL when the left compared Bush to Hitler? They are not really concerned about Nazi Comparisons. They are just a bunch of hacks

The only hate I saw was the Violence against conservatives by Obama Union Thugs.

“The Nazi party introduced Socialized Medicine to Germany. This is a true fact that cannot be disputed.”
They also introduced the highway system, the combined use of air and ground forces and Hitler loved dogs.
Any other non sequitars you care to post.

“Where was the ADL when the left compared Bush to Hitler? They are not really concerned about Nazi Comparisons. They are just a bunch of hacks”
From the article:
“Liberal Salon columnist Glenn Greenwald, pointing out how many conservatives and Jewish groups condemned MoveOn.org in 2004 for two video ad submissions that compared President George W. Bush to Hitler, has challenged the same groups and individuals to condemn Limbaugh.”
The right wing

Sorry, Foxman and the ADL don’t own “Hitler”. When the White House sets up a snitch email address, they’ve begun their descent. Spin it any way you like, but that type of activity is evil. Hitler is evil. Thus the connection.
I have a shot from the Colbert repot on my site right now, mocking the flag email address. No one can logically support that behavior. Only emotionally. But the enemy of their enemy, in this case, is NOT their friend. Yeah, Bush was a retard. But will “Dreams of my Father” go down as the 21st Century version of “Mein Kampf”? “My Struggle”, the English translation, sounds much less menacing – no?

The Nazi party introduced Socialized Medicine to Germany. This is a true fact that cannot be disputed.
Posted by: Dennis D | Aug 7, 2009 4:06:43 PM
Do you have elderly parents on Social Security or Medicaid??? If so, they ARE ON A GOVERNMENT RUN ‘SOCIAL’ PROGRAM!!! Under your view – they shouldn’t be – nor should any other elderly American – according to YOU and people who think like you – all elderly Americans should have to pay for their own private HEALTH INSURANCE OR have no coverage – period!!! Then they would be forced to use the emergency room like all other non-insured Americans and basically bankrupt this country – because those unpaid emergency room expenses would force hospitals to shut down or force ALL taxpayers to pay higher taxes so our government can pay back those hospitals for taken care of the millions of elderly Americans who have lost their ‘social’ benefits because of people who think like you!!!

From Wikipedia (you know, the EASIEST place to find basic information):
“Nazism is often considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both left and right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the right. The Nazis were one of several historical groups that used the term National Socialism to describe themselves, and in the 1920s they became the largest such group. The Nazi Party presented its program in the 25 point National Socialist Program in 1920. Among the key elements of Nazism were anti-parliamentarism, Pan-Germanism, racism, collectivism, eugenics, antisemitism, anti-communism, totalitarianism and opposition to economic liberalism and political liberalism.”
So, a real quick summary for you historical dullards.
Nazism/Fascism = Right-wing totalitarianism
Soviet Communism = Left-wing totalitarianism
If you’re planning to make ad hominem attacks on a leftist, and you wish to base your strawman argument on a 20th-century political party, at least pick the right one, for pete’s sake!

The Nazi comparison is accurate. When Hitler came to power the majority of the country loved him. The genocide did not start until some time later. What we are experiencing now is the same kind of change that Germany experienced under the beginning of Hitler – the question is – when will the similarities end? The confrontations during the protests were disturbing – where are our rights now? Changed under Obama?

obama is a socialist. he hates capitalism and indivual freedom. he feels the state should provide everything for everyone and everyone should work for the greater good (this is pretty much the OPPOSITE of what America’s founders intended).

“The Nazi comparison is accurate. When Hitler came to power the majority of the country loved him. The genocide did not start until some time later.”
In 1945 the majority of Germany still loved him.
And while the genocide may not have started in earnest right away, the restrictive laws on Jews began almost immediately.
If anyone is interested in a fascinating first hand account a German literature professor diary from that time has been translated.
It is called I will bear witness.

The Nazi comparison is accurate. When Hitler came to power the majority of the country loved him. The genocide did not start until some time later. What we are experiencing now is the same kind of change that Germany experienced under the beginning of Hitler – the question is – when will the similarities end? The confrontations during the protests were disturbing – where are our rights now? Changed under Obama?
Posted by: Maybe | Aug 7, 2009 4:21:29 PM
You can’t be serious… Did you even READ the proposed legislation??? All it does is cover the expense of having a patient and his/her own DOCTOR create a living will – “IF” they want one!!!! Which – BTW – every American should have!!!!

Hi Jake – the White House blog entry and “flag” email address are still active. Thank you for helping to bring this issue to light – but do your colleagues actually find this acceptable? Forget fathead Limbaugh – this is just completely anti-American. Absolutely awful and evil. Forget the Jews and Hitler – we obviously have a MUCH bigger problem on our hands at this very moment. Please press your colleagues to do their jobs. This is actually scary. We can have honest discourse without this type of intrusion by our government. The White House represents us all, regardless of our views on Health Care. Please make them stop before it’s too late.

Let’s see. Paragraph after paragraph of context about Rush’s statement. How much context did you offer when you got the big ‘scoop’ on that one post on Move On’s web site that called Bush a Nazi? Congrats on that by the way. Excellent career move. Which come to think of it was the context.

Do all AMERICANS a favor if you believe the BS that you do… Write a letter to the Social Security Department and Medicare – and GIVE UP ANY AND ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO ANY BENEFIT FROM THESE SO-CALLED ‘SOCIALIST PROGRAMS’ YOU HATE SO MUCH!!!!!!
I’d gladly give up all my “social programs” – Just return my 45 years of payments WITH INTEREST. I never wanted in this stupid program. IT WAS MANDITORY – JUST LIKE OBAMA WANTS TO MAKE GOVT HEALTHCARE!

Sorry
but the current protests by conservatives has an eerie look of the pogroms used by another far right group in the mid to late 30s in a nation of Europe.
Remember Kristallnacht in Germany in 1938?
The current hate and rants of the far right in the USA look very similar.
Also national health care in Germany goes back to the 1870′s. So it was not the Nazi’s who began the program. The Nazi’s however limited free health care to only those of Aryan background- sounds the same as today in the USA.

geecee… You can keep your current plan, IF it is still available or IF you can afford it. The problem here is Government will compete with private enterprise. The fines levied on private businesses will likely force them into government-run plans.

Geecee
Believing that people will have the option to keep their health plan once the gov’t takes over is about as ridiculous as believing BO when he said “i had no idea rev wright was saying those things”.
Spit out the koolaid.

“I’d gladly give up all my “social programs” – Just return my 45 years of payments WITH INTEREST. I never wanted in this stupid program. IT WAS MANDITORY – JUST LIKE OBAMA WANTS TO MAKE GOVT HEALTHCARE!”
Very well said!

“Let’s face the truth. No matter which side you base your politics. Nancy Pelosi is the poster child for everything that is wrong in America. Isn’t she up for re-election in 2010?”
Members of the House are up every 2 years.
Pelosi won her safe district with 70% of the vote.
Cindy Sheehan beat the GOP challenger by about 7%.

I hope Pelosi keeps talking. It only gets better and better. Her sock puppets Obama and Reid needs to be part of the act.

The similarity between nazism and communism is that they have both produced MILLIONS of murders (over 100 million est) because the governments became too powerful. BO is all for making the gov’t bigger because he is a socialist. His belief in governmental control vs. individual liberty is what makes him toxic for our country.

His belief in governmental control vs. individual liberty is what makes him toxic for our country.
Posted by: Liberalsaresocialists | Aug 7, 2009 4:59:27 PM
What planet do you live on??? Why SHOULDN’T all American taxpayers have access to an AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE PLAN???
Posted by: Melanie | Aug 7, 2009 5:02:18 PM
Typo correct above…

Did these same jewish community assail liberals for doing the same thing? Maybe this is just the left wing portion of the Jewish community. Jake, your headline needs to read “Left wing Jewish group assials comparison to Nazi’s made by conservatives..”
Because that’s what this article comes down to, left vs. right, not a concerned Jewish community. Because if they were so outraged they would have assailed liberal in CONGRESS calling the protesters brown shirts. Wheres the outcry? Partisan hacks.

–What planet do you live on??? Why should all American taxpayers have access to an AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE PLAN???–
Can gov’t pay my rent too?

Melanie
Have you ever experienced “affordable healthcare” abroad? I have.
It was terrible and the only way I got better was paying $1,000 to see a private physician for 20 minutes (and this was in London). I waited in a line for 4 hours to see a nurse who suggested aspirin for what was later diagnosed as salmonella food poisoning.
I agree we need to reform our healthcare, but not socialize it. The gov’t screws up everything it touches. You honestly believe that barney frank, nancy pelosi, and harry reid know whats best for you?
Have you heard of the young charismatic speaker from cuba in the 50′s who also took power promising “affordable healthcare”?
Now pregnant women under fidel’s utopia are dying in rafts trying to get to the USA vs. having their babies born in the “free healthcare system”.

“The fist step to fixing health care is by tort reform” – Universal coverage would achieve tort reform by reducing the part of the jury award that does to victims to pay for future injury-related health costs. This should reduce malpractice premiums.

So you paid a $1000 for some Pepto Bismol?
Ryan it is obvious that you have never been to England or had Samonella posioning. When it comes to health care, both are deadly!

Ryan C
No, actually I paid 500 pounds for the drugs needed to kill the salmonella in my body and for the physician to come to my flat.
However, if you believe that pepto bismal is sufficient to treat salmonella, i can definately see how you fell for the “hope and change” slogans.

“Ryan it is obvious that you have never been to England or had Samonella posioning. When it comes to health care, both are deadly!”
I’ve had samonella.
Treatment is Pepto or Imodium, plenty of fluids and bed rest.

I welcome all comments from the right. That their voices should be heard on this issue and loudly is why we have a Democracy. It is pertinent that they are as threatened by health care reform as they would be by fascism. This is an issue that should not be ignored.

“Deny working Americans affordable insurance because you rather spend $10 billion a month on two wars…”
Tell Obama.

And I agree, they are too well-funded to call them a grassroots effort, just as were the Fox-sponsored “tea parties”. Who do they think they are fooling? No one but themselves, same as in the 2008 election.

“Deny working Americans affordable insurance because you rather spend $10 billion a month on two wars…”
Tell Obama.
Posted by: Peace Now | Aug 7, 2009 5:33:25 PM
He is doing his best… troops from Iraq should be home by next year according to the time table signed by Bush last December… Afgan… that is a entirely different story… and a totally different problem… We will be there for a long time to come… last 7 years BEFORE Obama was a total waste as an appropriate PLAN was never achieved there… and the RIGHT about of soldiers and material was never sent UNTIL now…

“No, why did they only single out someone from one political spectrum and not the other, whos guilty of doing the exact same thing?”
Keep attacking the ADL while defending Rush’s offensive comments.
And you got angry when I talked about racism and the right wing.

Posted by: Peace Now | Aug 7, 2009 5:45:02 PM
Working on that too but the FEAR mongers on Fox and in the RNC convinced stupid Congressmen to pull the funding to transfer those prisoners to Max security prisons in our country because they feared they would escape and be among ‘us’…. Like they are not already…
So Obama will just make deals with other countries and move them there and the rest will probably be sent back to the US controlled airport prison in Afgan…
GITMO will close the timing just might be a bit later than most people would like…

GITMO will close the timing just might be a bit later than most people would like…
That sounds like a Bush excuse. Another broken promise.

That sounds like a Bush excuse. Another broken promise.
Posted by: Same Old | Aug 7, 2009 6:01:13 PM
Only in Repubs minds… as they hate him no matter what he does… See your reflection in the mirror???

Only in Repubs minds… as they hate him no matter what he does… See your reflection in the mirror???
Great comeback: You must be a Republican! Whatever works for you i guess. Listen, Bush is no longer President, Thank God. I had actually thought for a minute that Obama would maybe reverse this horrid policy and do the right thing. Fool me once…

Humana Net Rises 34% on Medicare gains.
Medicare D a blue dog gift to the business.
No wonder Health Insurance corporations want to write health care reform.

Nancy Pelosi is the one that needs to apologize to us. She is the one who made the statement. She is the lowest of the low.

If Pelosi is wrong and Rush is right..where does that leave the rest of us?

Posted by: Same Old | Aug 7, 2009 6:13:35 PM
Hey – Obama didn’t want those pictures released because they show AMERICAN soldiers raping and abusing Iraqi prisoners during the Bush Administration… At least Obama, realized that releasing those pictures might harm current and innocent American soldiers now overseas…
BTW – you are a drone….

I’m amazed at the sheer arrogance of these politicians. When informed citizens show up and demonstrate knowledge and begin to question their motives, the politicians figure that these people are obviously too stupid to think for themselves, so it’s the Republicans fault.
If this were simply a small fringe minority of protesters hired to demonstrate at town hall meetings, then support for the Democrats would continue to climb. The problem with that illogical argument is that these demonstrations are taking place all over the country. Many of these people are leaving their families and sacrificing their lives to stand out in 100 degree heat to have their voices heard. It doesn’t sound like anyone’s pretending to be mad. These people are ordinary citizens that are BOILING mad about what the Democrats are doing to our country.
I have a good answer at why people don’t want to debate. Look at it this way. Would you want to debate with a con artist about his scheme AFTER his scam has already been exposed??
What’s there to debate about? The media have exposed the intentions of the Democrats from as far back as 2007. Obama talks about taking back the house, senate and whitehouse, then makes a detailed statement of gradually phasing out private insurance for a single payer system. This healthcare bill is crafted to do just that. Is it a coincidence that Obama will only sign a plan with a government run system that undercuts the private industry by as much as 30%? We can’t allow the government to gain complete control of one seventh of our economy. They’re too corrupt as it is.

As a Jewish Holocaust survivor myself, I am also outraged at the GOP for comparing UHC to Nazism.
I have not voted for the GOP in years because of their exploitation of Israel and their hostility to progress.

“…Is it a coincidence that Obama will only sign a plan with a government run system that undercuts the private industry by as much as 30%? We can’t allow the government to gain complete control of one seventh of our economy. They’re too corrupt as it is.”
Posted by: Michael | Aug 7, 2009 6:36:24 PM
You must work for an health insurance company because your are re-writing down right lies and repeating RNC/FOXNews talking pointing funded and paid for by private healthcare lobbyists! HOW MUCH PROFIT SHOULD A PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANY THAT PICKS AND CHOOSES WHO IT WILL COVER AND DROPS THOSE THEY DEEM RISKY – HOW MUCH???? THEY MADE RECORD PROFITS AGAIN JUST LAST QUARTER!!!! Their top executives make millions a year!!! DO YOU BELIEVE THAT AMERICANS SHOULD MAKE A RECORD BREAKING PROFIT OFF OF THE HEALTH AND ‘SICKNESS’ OF OTHER AMERICANS??!!!

The full name for the Nazi party was “National Socialist.” Thru their regulatory and tax power, they harrassed and took over private companies. They surpressed dialog. They calculated the $ contribution of the sick and eliminated many of them. They mandated national service. Another government, the Southern Confederacy of the Civil War also leaned on business and individuals. Businesses who resisted had their employees conscripted. At the end of the Civil War, almost all of the manufacturing was controlled by the national Confederate goverment. If anything, what we see today could be called NSO, “National Socialist Obama.”

LMAO! at those who called these lunatics “informed.” If they were intelligent as you claim, they would be able to form complete sentences and have a civil conversation about why they diasgree with the health care proposals. The townhalls are a place where these disagreements are to be aired but I have not heard one disagreement, all I’ve heard was “grown” people acticting like idiots and screaming. You say it’s ginuine, but I have a hard time believing that beacuse none of this is new. Foreclosures didn’t just started happening, deficits didn’t just start happening, health care hasn’t just started to become almost unobtainable for a growing number of Americans. These issues have been going on for years and many started during the past eight, so these “protesters” had plenty to protest about for years and wjere were they. I believe that their motives are a bit more nefarious than they state. I don’t see this as patriotism or even civil discourse, this is hate, ignorance and fear mongering. Unfortunately, those have become the calling card as of late with the republican party. It’s “white voter” sother strategy may good for exciting the base but I think reasonable Americans will turn on this, as they did during the elections.

okay, so you are saying it is bad to tax those without “acceptable” health care coverage? In particular, you are concerned over who will determine what coverage qualifies as “acceptable”?

nikkikgu, i think the anti-health care side have a very strong sense of freedom as they routinely quote an ideal that “the problem isn’t with the government, the problem is the government”. Any additional regulation, laws or government controls are refuted because they are socialist. I like your post of similies. There was a time when a fella with an illness could start a business and still reach for the american dream. Instead, he has to choose between going broke to have medicaid cover health costs or trying to increase wealth without treatment. I wish the GOP would come up with a competitive plan to solve the problem rather than deny a problem exists or use american, free-enterprise as their solve-all.

sign seeker 17: great post. I agree. One of the most unamerican acts is to bully ideas by getting folks spun-up with dramatic euphamisms. It is not logical but is too often true in politics.

Where were these groups or fancy Nancy when our former President was quite often represented as Hitler in addition to Satan?
Who is quoted as saying when they push, push back harder or if they bring a knife, bring a gun?
I have not seen pictures of anyone wearing nazi uniforms, perhaps there has been some but acorn and other group attend these too so could it be that someone is playing tricks? The pictures I saw were lots of older people or people with kids that were severly disabled.
No doubt some of this is childish but with our Governments irresponsibilty at other social adventures I would be wary of them trying to syncronize redlights in a two traffic light town let alone my healthcare.

What I don’t understand is why in hell do we need to give health care to ILLEGAL ALIENS and to be expected to pay the bill for them??? I don’t blame the people for being mad as hell, these politicians are clearly not listening to the people.

“Americans should be able to disagree on the issues without coloring it with Nazi imagery and comparisons to Hitler. This is not where the debate should be at all.”
The debate should be on valid points:
1. What is the constitutionality of the WH request to forward all “fishy” arguments against Obamacare?
2. When the president says in a speech in VA that his opponents should stop talking because they caused the problem and we can’t look to them to fix it, is he forgetting that democrats had large majorities in congress for the past 2 and a half years?
3. Why is it wrong for conservative opponents of Obamacare to organize on even a local level, but it is perfectly ok for liberal proponents to get direction nationally from their union leadership to “get out the purple army” (referring to the SEIU president’s conference call yesterday)
4. What makes sense about the argument that the government will run health care cheaper and with better results than a private system? Do we forget the VA, the military medical system, or the IHS (native american health system) where the government has a mandate to cover everyone, but they always seem to run out of money and thus have to ration care?
5. Is it fair that our representatives who are elected by us, but are not otherwise any different or better than us, will not have to give up their premium, high cost federal insurance? (this applies to all federal employees)
6. This plan won’t be fully implemented until 2013 so why is there such an urgency to skip national debate and pass this now if the largest aspect won’t start for four years. (meanwhile the taxes increase in 2011 to help pay for this, but we still have to pay for our current plans on top of the increase in taxes)
7. Do you really want the same quality of care that they get in Britain and Canada? The wait time is so long for dentists in Britain that some people resort to self dentistry. Pulling your own teeth with pliers sounds like a pretty good way to save money for the government, right?
8. If you insist on saying that we are not going to have a British or Canadian style system, then what is the point of getting government more involved? The flaw with Obamacare is it touts increased care and at the same time reduced costs.

Who want to give the health cafe lobbyist more money please raise your hand?
if they don’t like government run health care so bad why the lobbyists did not wanted to get rid of Medicare? Of course not, Medicare is public (aka government). Public runs health care will prevent them from raising price.
this is America. Free enterprise and competition are at best. Nothing is wrong with public option. If you don’t like public option then pick a private one instead.

ObamaCare for Seniors: The Final Solution

Pelosi started the comparison, Limbaugh responded. It is logical to criticize both because the Nazi movement was horrific. The protesters at the town hall meetings resemble colonial Americans that started our country not Nazis. The democrats are deceptive and manipulative on a grand scale frequently using lawyer like tactics to confuse the issue. Democrats and leftists are the ones who organize special interests to show up at town halls. Democrats and leftists are the ones who manufacture protests. And the democrats accuse others of doing exactly what they actually do and that does resemble the Nazi strategy. Limbaugh should have been careful not to go over board with his comparison. Pelosi started it, and other democrats and leftists in the past also called Bush a Nazi.

The most foolish outrage in this report is that from the American Jewish Congress, objecting to the comparison of Obama [and Polisi] to Hitler as offensive and intolerable. Objecting because they only appear to consider Hitler’s end resulting assault against humanity, including the Jews. Hitler, in first six months of office, did not take single Jew into a concentration camp. He took power gradually, as he first won the hearts and minds of the people, including those of many Jews. Hitler could never have perpetrated his evil deeds without first, the support of the people through deceptive means. It is the same today, Obama and the democrats in general, driven by their liberal agenda, have worked at winning the hearts and minds of the people, and as the liberal succeed more, they will get to the point of killing millions of humans. Killing humans while advocating the protection of animal, bird and tree life. Many, many Jews playing along, until again, the liberals will turn fully against Israel and work at destroying it from the map. All because of an inherent hatred with anything pertaining to the Most High God and His Christ.

will shure,
“What I don’t understand is why in hell do we need to give health care to ILLEGAL ALIENS and to be expected to pay the bill for them???”
You ALREADY are paying for those who do not have coverage!
Why do you think our Medical Bills are so high? They charge us so much to make up for those who have no coverage.
Why do you think that while in a hospital the medication they give you costs ten times the amount you would pay outside? Or why they will charge you $60 for a box of tissues?
They are now overcharging people to cover those without insurance!
If everyone is covered it means that the costs for everyone will go down.

What you “Shills” and “Trolls” do not get is that people have obviously “Had it!” The people do not want to “converse” with the Politicians and hear more of the same. People are tired of listening (mainly to outright lies, deceptions, half-truth and semantics) people want to be HEARD and LISTENED too. Stop telling U.S. that you’re going to do what is best for us, rather than what we want you to do FOR U.S., our wishes, your constituents as our “Duly Elected Representative.”

Not that I endorse the GOP, but they do have their own plan for reducing health cost and increasing benefits under insurance to include pre-existing conditions, but Pelosi locked every single republican out of all “health” care planning meetings… The Dems and Obama want this plan for more government control over your lives – nothing else. Read the plan yourself. Don’t listen to the lies they spew from their mouths read the death plan yourself and you come up with your own conclusions.

I don’t listen to Rush, either, because at best, he’s a loudmouth bully; at worst, he is a vile, vicious, hate monger extraordinaire.

You gotta love the Jews. They listen as Obama plunges the knife into Israel’s back, then defend him and his shills in Congress with blind loyalty. Wonder what they will say when they find themselves betrayed again? Docility is not conducive to longevity or freedom when the wolf is at the door. Speak up, shout, yell, silence the liars and then vote them out.

And be sure to read The Declaration of Independence!
“This was the object of the Declaration of Independence. Not to find out new principles, or new arguments, never before thought of, not merely to say things which had never been said before; but to place before mankind the common sense of the subject, in terms so plain and so firm as to command their assent, and to justify ourselves in the independent stand we are compelled to take.” Thomas Jefferson

Bush gets all the blame–he messed up our country, and when Sarah Palin becomes president, since America is stuck on dividing it self, she will finish us all. Ah… America, I knew you will.

Nancy started it – nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah! And YET, most news organizations fail to indicate this fact – yet nobody is upset about that! There are no pictures of people carrying swastikas or wearing swastikas at these meetings – so there she goes again – lying. These people can’t be trusted with what they say, let alone, with our health care. We have a right to speak out, and it is frustrating because the members of congress have NOT been listening – they voted for TARP, the stimulus, cap and trade – they fail to heed the majority of Americans just look at the polls.

There is a grave and sinister tone to the discussions on how America should be run. We do live in a democracy where freedom of speech and public discourse on the solutions are civic responsibilities, what trouble’s me most is the hateful and beligerent liars such as Limbaugh, Beck and others. They are hell bent to the point of inciting mob violence and supported by some of most violent groups. I think the majority of Americans would like to have the Towns Hall, remain a format of civil, rational discussion as opposed to a forum of belligerence akin to Mob rule! And for a small few such as the birthers, they need to accept that yes a black man is sitting in the White House and get over their insecurities!

I’ve seen pictures of signs with Nazi symbols at these mob gatherings. One showed a baby in a carriage with a Nazi symbol. I’m not sure, but suspect Pelosi didn’t call those people Nazis. She was saying through their signs and symbols the mob was applying the term to their political enemies.

Corporate propaganda. The spin – “health care”, “conservative”, “jewish”.
Truth – America is becoming more fascist everyday. This is not about right, left, or any special interest. This is about our former freedom. People who get all fired up about what other people think or say, are the same type who would commit the same fascist controlling measures upon others, just in a different way. The government’s role in society is spelled out clearly in the constitution? Those who believe absurdities, WILL commit attrosities.

So is it that they don’t teach history in American schools or is it that they teach Americanized history in schools?
I beg of you all to please, please pick up a history book and read about Hitler and the Nazi’s… so many of you are mistaken, I understand it’s not your fault but the fault of Fox News and their hate.
I’d like to point out that in Canada there is public health care and no one is ever ‘putdown’, nor do you receive a bill for your health care services. You can go to any doctor you’d like and all people are treated as equals. There are no extensive wait times and it seems to work very well and has for a very long time. In regards to talk about ‘death panels’ and such nonsense I leave you with an example:
Republican’s claim that based on “Canadian-style health care” those who are too old or sick will not receive the treatment they require because they are no longer a viable/productive member of society. Recently an 89 year old Canadian man took a fall and was rushed to the hospital. It turns out he needed to have his knee replaced. He met with a specialist and they discussed the procedure and requested that they provide him with his living will so that if there was a problem with the surgery or something drastic happened to him, they would know and honor his wishes. 6 weeks later he entered the hospital and had his knee replaced – no problem, no medical bills and he certainly wasn’t put down. He is now working with a physical therapist to get him back on his feet and expects to be walking around in no time.
I don’t see why you would all be so against this type of treatment… Odd really.
I am 31 years old and I’ve had the discussion about my ‘end of life plans’. For anyone who has parents, siblings, children or friends this is the responsible thing to do. If you were in a serious accident and left brain dead for example, why would you be so selfish as to ask your family to make a tough decision during an already tough time?!?!? To me that is just insensitive. Every single person should have the opportunity to layout their emergency plan and make decisions for their care. Not doing so is just plain ignorant.