McCain Opposes Both Former CIA Interrogations and Justice Department Review of Them
EmailPresident Obama’s 2008 presidential opponent asserted Sunday that he agrees with former Vice President Cheney in opposing the Justice Department’s review of whether any CIA officers engaged in any actions during interrogations of detainees that didn’t comply with legal advice at the time.
But he also spoke firmly against the enhanced interrogation techniques that Cheney so strongly asserted made the country safer.
“I think it's a mistake,” McCain said of Attorney General Eric Holder’s announcement last week that he would open a preliminary review to see if laws were violated with the use of some interrogation techniques. “I think in the future we'll find that's a mistake.”
McCain told CBS’s Face the Nation that he worries “about the morale and effectiveness of the CIA” and that even thought Holder caution this was a preliminary review, not an investigation, it might get “out of control” and harm the US government’s “ability to carry on the struggle that we're in with radical Islamic extremism.”
That said, McCain said he “was radically opposed” to the enhanced interrogation techniques the CIA used during the Bush administration.
“I think it harmed us,” he said, “I think torturing harmed us.”
McCain went so far as to say some of the interrogations in question violated international law.
They “were in violation of the Geneva Convention against torture that we ratified under President Reagan,” McCain said. “I think that these interrogations, once publicized, helped al Qaeda recruit. I got that from an al Qaeda operative in a prison camp in Iraq who told me that. I think that the ability of us to work with our allies was harmed. And so — and I believe that information according to the FBI and others could have been gained through other methods.”
McCain said he spoke with the formerly high-ranking al Qaeda operative at Camp Bucca in Iraq.
“I said, ‘How did you succeed so well in Iraq after the initial invasions?’” McCain recalled. “He said two things. One, the chaos that existed after the initial invasion, there was no order of any kind. Two, he said ‘Abu Ghraib pictures allowed me and helped me to recruit thousands of young men to our cause.’ Now that's al Qaeda.”
McCain also said, presumably from his first hand experience as a Vietnam War prisoner of war, “if you inflict enough pain on anyone, they'll tell you anything to make the pain stop. So you not only get perhaps right information but you also get a lot of wrong information.”
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“McCain said he spoke with the formerly high-ranking al Qaeda operative at Camp Bucca in Iraq….”
And he thinks this guy told him the truth?
Posted by: Daoud | August 31, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I was and am a McCain supporter and yet I must say I don’t understand his comments – except that he speaks from his own experience 40 years ago and not from what occurred 5 years ago.
I don’t understand the conflation of Abu Gharib and the interrogation of the High Value Al Qaeda operatives. Whatever they were, the pictures of Abu Ghraib do not depict any sort of interrogation, any sort of intelligence operation at all.
We have not seen anything we did to KSM and Abu Zubudayah and however gruesome those caterpillars were and the horror of a drill spinning, I DO NOT CARE.
As far as getting bad intelligence with the good, that is a matter of asking the right questions, starting with ones you already know the answer to, and correlating results.
Torture on the battlefield to gain unfair advantage may or may not backfire in the realm of world opinion.
But failure to extract information from terrorists intent on destruction of American institutions and disruption of our society is a recipe for suicide, and simply cannot be countenanced by any administration.
Posted by: robertb | August 31, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
I think the responsibility lies at the top of the administration that asked for torture to begin by renaming it as “enhanced interrogation techniques”, (even Ronald Regan, called the practice of torture “abhorrent”), is anyone surprised that Cheney is now crying about the investigations.
Posted by: Paul | August 31, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
lets just make all the interrogations public, the ACLU can come in and wipe tears from their faces and America can be made to feel bad in the knowledge that since our inception as a nation WE are the cause of all the problems in the world!
Posted by: Mike_C | August 31, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
What’s done is done. We all know about it, and whether we approve or disprove of it, wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on a political ploy, is irresponsible, and I for one, am getting sick of waste in government.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | August 31, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
No one of good will can deny that the abuses were horrific.
Last week the New York Times reported some of them on its front page: “Excessive physical force was routinely used, resulting in broken bones, shattered teeth, concussions, and dozens of other serious injuries over a period of less than two years, a federal investigation has found. . . . [D]espite rules allowing force only as a last resort. ‘Staff at the facilities routinely used uncontrolled, unsafe applications of force, departing from generally accepted standards…. workers forced one boy, who had glared at a staff member, into a sitting position and secured his arms behind his back with such force that his collarbone was broken.”
Oh, wait–these abuses were not committed by the CIA. They were committed by officials at four juvenile residential detention centers in New York state.
Never mind…
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | August 31, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
“he worries “about the morale and effectiveness of the CIA” and that even thought Holder caution this was a preliminary review, not an investigation, it might get “out of control””
Well, he should keep an eye on it then. By taking a principled rather than political stance on torture, he is among the few Republicans with the credibility to sound the alarm if it gets out of hand.
Posted by: jhw539 | August 31, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Are we going to ‘investigate’ every other conflict we’ve been involved with? The US has always tortured…it did not start with the Bush administration.
Posted by: stdntDrvr | August 31, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
and I for one, am getting sick of waste in
You’ve got no idea what is coming…
Posted by: Wasted | August 31, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Strange that the Republicans would eagerly spend millions spearheading an enquiry into Clinton’s affair with an intern and yet want to avoid an enquiry into their own administration’s conduct regarding the legality of their use of torture.
Posted by: julieterra | August 31, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
By taking a principled rather than political stance on torture, he is among the few Republicans with the credibility to sound the alarm if it gets out of hand.
Posted by: jhw539 |
“I think it’s a mistake,” McCain said
Alarm sounded.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 31, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
So the torture tactics were illegal, but is even worse to investigate those illegal activities? Don’t follow you, Mac.
Posted by: matt | August 31, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Since when does a terrorist inquire into the party affiliation of their victims before striking?? THIS SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT DEMS VS REPUBS otherwise we are simply falling into their traps as in now….
Posted by: Parallex View | August 31, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Alarm sounded.
Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 31, 2009 1:56:09 PM
He “worries” it might get out of control and says “I think it’s a mistake” is sounding the alarm?
Wow, Republicans must positively look for reasons to be afraid every day. I worry my nieces could get run over by a car and let them know that – but they don’t take that as a reason to cower under their beds in fear rather than walk to school.
Posted by: jhw539 | August 31, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
“lets just make all the interrogations public,”
Mike_C | Aug 31, 2009 1:36:08 PM
Obama did write and get into a law requiring all serious interrogations in IL be video taped. Initially opposed by conservatives, they were ultimately convinced and now the video tapes prove exceptionally useful to prosecutors in proving guilt and in shutting down liberal’s ranting “you railroaded this nice kid!” And they do prevent the previous railroading problem to a good extent (we’ve gotta get someone to shut up the press so lets pick up that punk xxxx and get him to take the rap).
An interrogation that cannot be shown to a jury does not meet the moral standards of our nation by definition. I’ve been on a jury for kidnapping and rape. We ultimately threw out all interrogation evidence since it was strictly he said/she said (the police have the same credibility as the accused, particularly in this area). Would’ve been a MUCH shorter case and deliberation if they had recorded the interrogation, and the jury would have no problem with seeing a child rapist get yelled at, threatened, insulted, lied to, etc (standard interrogation techniques).
Posted by: jhw539 | August 31, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
===“if you inflict enough pain on anyone, they’ll tell you anything to make the pain stop. So you not only get perhaps right information but you also get a lot of wrong information.”===
They also lie when you do nothing but ask questions. As the IG report indicated.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
“The Bush administrated was already investigated and cleared.”
Dave | Aug 31, 2009 2:00:45 PM
Citation please.
Posted by: jhw539 | August 31, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
The cigar smoke in their face was the final straw for me. I’m not sure how we can hold our heads up in the international community after that one.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
I’m glad the EIT’s were used. I’m proud of the dedicated professionals who acquired the information needed to break the back of Al Qaeda and prevent further murderous attacks on Americans.
And I am pleased that no one will be convicted of any wrongdoing, and the course the administration has chosen will shed more light on the Obama administration. As with his health care proposal, he is trying to give the American people something they do not want. He thinks he knows better. He will learn that he does not.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | August 31, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
===That said, McCain said he “was radically opposed” to the enhanced interrogation techniques the CIA used during the Bush administration.===
Except under a “ticking bomb scenario”. Then McCain says the president should do what the president should do. I voted for him, but I swear, it was only a vote against Obama, not for McCain.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
He “worries” it might get out of control and says “I think it’s a mistake” is sounding the alarm?
Posted by: jhw539 |
What does he have to do to get your attention? Rub your nose in it?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 31, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
It’s August and we are reminded of 2001 when Bush was on a month’s holiday in Texas when the warnings of an imminent attack on American soil from Al Qaeda were first sounded. Was that holiday cut short? I think not.
Posted by: julieterra | August 31, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Career professionals in the Justice Department reviewed the IG report and concluded that no prosecutable offense had occurred. Now a political appointee has reversed their decision.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | August 31, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
jhw,
I have no issue at all with that. The only thing about it, is the ususal issue of real, true national security. That is anything that would compromise intel sources (under-cover, informants, etc) as well as anything that would disclose intel pipelines between us and other nations. There would be others as I’m sure you are aware of.
I agree with you on the she said/he said problem. I have said for many years now that we should have the ability to record public school classes. It would end the old “not my son/daughter, he/she would never do that” argument. Pop in the tape and watch mom & dad turn red.
I think most people fully understand that there is a fine line that intelligence services must walk in order to to their primary job.
Posted by: Mike_C | August 31, 2009, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
“Strange that the Republicans would eagerly spend millions spearheading an enquiry into Clinton’s affair with an intern…”
Wasn’t it the Clinton Administration that appointed a special prosecutor?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | August 31, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
“Wasn’t it the Clinton Administration that appointed a special prosecutor?”
It was the Republican congress.
Posted by: julieterra | August 31, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
“Was that holiday cut short? I think not.”
Last week we passed a grim milestone as August became the deadliest month in the history of the Afghan War. The president, cavorting in th elitist playgrund of Martha’s Vineyard, appeared not to notice.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | August 31, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
===It was the Republican congress.===
I thought Janet Reno appointed the special prosecutor.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
===warnings of an imminent attack on American soil from Al Qaeda were first sounded===
I suppose you are referring to the infamous August pdb? I would like to know where in that document it said anything about imminent attacks? For that matter, I would like to know where in that document it says anything a liberal says it says.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Seems we were both wrong. Starr was appointed, in August 1994, by a three judge panel to replace Robert Bishop Fiske, Jr. who was appointed in 1993. No republican congress was involved. Nor was Janet Reno.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Well, darn, Janet Reno did choose Fiske. I knew she was in there somewhere.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
“Wasn’t it the Clinton Administration that appointed a special prosecutor?”
It was the Republican congress.
Posted by: julieterra |
No it wasn’t and congress doesn’t appoint special prosecutors.
In August 1994 Starr was appointed by a three-judge panel to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Robert B. Fiske, who had been appointed by the Attorney General prior to the reenactment of the Independent Counsel law.[
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 31, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Republicans didn’t take over congress until January 1995. Just to clear up why a republican congress could not have appointed a special prosecutor, even if they had wanted to.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
“The Bush administrated was already investigated and cleared”
Yep, the Bush admin investigated the Bush admin and found the Bush admin free of charge…wow, that is a surprise.
So…when the Obama admin investigates the Obama admin and finds that the Obama admin did no wrong….will it taste the same to you?
You ignore that the Bush admin gave “legal opinions” that were thrown out by the Supreme Court. You ignore this because it doesn’t fit the meme.
It is pathetic that people would dismiss criminals simply because they were part of the “previous administration”. So…if an administration commits mass murder, survives any attempt to remove them before election, and a new administration takes root…they shouldn’t investigate? Sounds like a banana republic. You shame your own nation with this ridiculous notion.
Posted by: CheneyWatch | August 31, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
“I’m glad the EIT’s were used. I’m proud of the dedicated professionals ”
If you were proud of the professionals, you’d be against EITs. The Professional Interrogation experts have unanimously rejected torture as a tool. It is an insult to their profession.
These interrogations were done by people who were not professional interrogaters.
You are applauding the work of mercenaries who were not professional interrogators. So if you are still proud, so be it, but tell the truth about the story lest you look like a fool.
Posted by: CheneyWatch | August 31, 2009, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
So…when the Obama admin investigates the Obama admin and finds that the Obama admin did no wrong….will it taste the same to you?
Posted by: CheneyWatch |
I’m sure you were outraged last week when an unnamed justice department official ended the investigation into Bill Richardson.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 31, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
And we thought Jimme Carter was a waffler.
Posted by: thomas conn | August 31, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Polling shows 62% of McCain voters think that “the government should stay out of medicare”
Posted by: Flash Override | August 31, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
McCain seem to be divided on what’s right and ethical and what’s political expedient. Come on McCain: which side or you on….?
Posted by: shalom | August 31, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
===Yep, the Bush admin investigated the Bush admin and found the Bush admin free of charge…wow, that is a surprise.===
Actually, career prosecutors, not political appointees, decided there was only one case that should be prosecuted. It was and the person is now in prison.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
McCain seem to be divided on what’s right and ethical and what’s political expedient. Come on McCain: which side or you on….?”
Cut him a little slack.
For a Republican to recognize what’s right and ethical in the first place is a big step.
Posted by: Ryan C | August 31, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Hey, let’s talk about Kennedy making a deal with Andropov to overthrow Reagan.
Posted by: drjohn | August 31, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
For a Republican to recognize what’s right and ethical in the first place is a big step.
Posted by: Ryan C |
I agree. Rush Dumbo called Rod Blago a crook.
Posted by: RePete | August 31, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
“When the law brakes the law then there is no law. All there is left is just a fight for survival.” — Quote from Billy Jack. 99.999% of Politicians are one notch below child molesters so how on earth can you believe a word that comes out of any of these bullcrap rats. The Democrat and Republican party are the main cause of the downfall of our beautiful country. They both want to justify there bullcrap but in the end they are both useless and rotten to the bone. All gov”ts and religions are corrupted and evil. This is not a general statement. This is the truth. “It is better to die standing, than to live on your knees.” — Emiliano Zapata. The world must wake up before it is to late. The big fish are eating all the little fish.
Posted by: cony007 | August 31, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
For a Republican to recognize what’s right and ethical in the first place is a big step.
Posted by: Ryan C
AS ALWAYS – RYAN C AND HIS ONE SIDE OF LIFE!
Hey Maybe you should go ask Chuckie Rangel about ethics & Honesty!!!!
Posted by: Mike_C | August 31, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Pres. Obama has been in office for only 9 months. GIVE HIM A BREAK PEOPLE!!! It took Pres. Bush 8 years to get us into this mess, it will takes years to get us out. All you right wing Christina neo-cons are bringing down the country with you hate filled lies. I am just getting out of college. I can’t wait to vote for Pres. Obama again in 2012.
Posted by: Brandon | August 31, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
About 20-30 years ago the Democrats, encouraged by their left wing friends held congressional hearings on the CIA that destroyed its affectiveness. The result was that twenty years later we had no longer an an effective agent presence on the ground in places like Iran and Iraq, and so the CIA came to the conclusion gleaned from newspapers and spy satellites that Irag had WMD. On that basis the US under Busch attacked Iraq only to find that WMD did not exist. And who complaigned the most; why of course the left wing socialist democratic party that created the problem. Just keep in mind that the definition of a liberal is someone who is so damn smart that they have an obligation to force their opion and way of life on the rest of us.
This latest political trial will hamper the CIA and put us all at risk, but what is the deaths of a few hundred Americans mean as long as left wing principles are upheld. Its time for us to take back the country from the socialist democratic threat. Time to take a stand against those that would deprive us of liberty and freedom. Time to vote democratic socialists out of office.
Posted by: Jim | August 31, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
“When the law brakes the law then there is no law. All there is left is just a fight for survival.” — Quote from Billy Jack.
***
Billy Jack!!!!
One tin soldier rides away. . .
Posted by: Alyson | August 31, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
So how did McCain get that information from an Al Qaida operative that we were in violation of the Geneval convention – did he waterboard the guy? Sounds like a great source!!!
Posted by: PoolPlayer | August 31, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Who cares what grandpa Munster thinks? He’s out of touch, out of line and out of time!
Posted by: zee | August 31, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Cheney admits that it doesn’t matter if the CIA broke the law…… impressive…. any bets how many laws he & Bush have broken.. can’t wait for the investigations into ‘high crimes’ ..
re: Busch attacked Iraq only to find that WMD did not exist. Posted by: Jim
well, you got that part right….
btw; I haven’t had a Busch in a long time, since college I think, they went down pretty easy as I remember….
Posted by: TJ | August 31, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Those detainees are not POW’s and not covered by the Geneva Convention anway.
Posted by: drjohn | August 31, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Those detainees are not POW’s and not covered by the Geneva Convention anyway.
Eric Holder said so.
Posted by: drjohn | August 31, 2009, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
This ought to be a lot of fun.
When the investigation gets rolling, we can ask Holder about why he pardoned Marc Rich but wants to prosecute these guys.
Posted by: drjohn | August 31, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Just think, with the next President we can investigate Holder and Obama!
Posted by: drjohn | August 31, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
“Hey Maybe you should go ask Chuckie Rangel about ethics & Honesty!!!!
Posted by: Mike_C | Aug 31, 2009 4:13:25 PM”
I would ask Congressman Rangel about ethics and honesty before I would ask Senators Vitter and Ensign or Governor Sanford.
Posted by: Ryan C | August 31, 2009, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
.. and so the CIA came to the conclusion gleaned from newspapers and spy satellites that Irag had WMD Posted by: Jim
damn.. I knew it… the CIA got it’s intel from the N.Y. Post & the Enquirer….
Posted by: TJ | August 31, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Alyson– One tin soldior will come again.
Posted by: cony007 | August 31, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
but wants to prosecute these guys.
Posted by: drjohn
‘prosecute’?…. do tell where that was written?
Posted by: Sam I Am | August 31, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
“Those detainees are not POW’s and not covered by the Geneva Convention anyway.
Eric Holder said so.”
CNN Eric Holder:”I can understand the tensions that exist, but I think the way to resolve it is, in fact, the way [then-] Secretary [of State Colin] Powell has proposed, which is to say these are not people who are prisoners of war as that has been defined, but who are entitled to, in our own interests, entitled to be treated in a very humane way and almost consistent with all of the dictates of the Geneva Convention.”
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | August 31, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
=== almost consistent with all of the dictates of the Geneva Convention.”===
Not caring enough to research it, but I do wonder what almost consistent means to him. I know what it means to me. They aren’t covered by the Geneva Convention.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
They aren’t covered by the Geneva Convention or they wouldn’t almost be consistent with it.
Posted by: Axey | August 31, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
“Not caring enough to research it, but I do wonder what almost consistent means to him. I know what it means to me. They aren’t covered by the Geneva Convention.”
Prisoners of war are not the only ones that are covered by the Geneva Conventions.
Posted by: Ryan C | August 31, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Cheney and Limbaugh must have gotten to McCain… there is NO WAY he would approve of this since he himself was a POW. No one better then he understands the rules of conduct from the Geneva Conventions… and no one better then he understands the superiority of a nation following those rules.
We have corrupted ourselves by becoming the enemy.
Posted by: Troy Street | August 31, 2009, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
We never ratified Protocol 1 or 2. The US has never accepted them and Congress never ratified the modified treaty. We are still listed as one of six countries that did not ratify the modified treaty. In 1987 Reagan gave this reason: protecting combatants without uniforms “would endanger civilians among whom terrorists and other irregulars attempt to conceal themselves”. So can McMain explain just when the Senate ratified the modified treaty? A President cannot ratify a treaty.
Posted by: RDH | August 31, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Jim says: ” The result was that twenty years later we had no longer an an effective agent presence on the ground in places like Iran and Iraq, and so the CIA came to the conclusion gleaned from newspapers and spy satellites that Irag had WMD”
You should look up some info there bud. We (R. Reagan) was friends with Iraq because they were a great counter balance to Iran. We’ve played chess with these countries like they were pawns and now we are reaping the rewards. To blame one party or the other is absolutely absurd… I’d sooner blame you, who obviously has a somewhat twisted historical view.
Posted by: Troy Street | August 31, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
This is a witch hunt to placate the far left. Oh, the US needs to be seen as the good guys by the rest of the world, has to be humane and judicious. You think terrorists are like that? And who protects the rest of the world? France?
For Carville to say on Stephanopolous’ Sunday show that the whole military is against waterboarding, etc, is a big fat lie. Special Ops folks are subjected to way more “torture” training that also includes waterboarding. Most are appalled at this attack on the CIA, even though they aren’t best friends. God help America if anyone attacks again, because there will be no CIA.
Posted by: Kermode Bear | August 31, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
The Democrat Zogby now has him at 42% approval. Forty-two percent!
They are looking at these numbers in the White House. And, as with so much else, they have no idea what to do.
Is it the health care fiasco, or is it investigating the heroes who kept us safe while allowing the murderer of 183 Americans to go free withot a peep?
Could be both, couldn’t it?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | August 31, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Alas, John McCain could have been our president instead of the marxist we now have running loose. Sorry John, it wasn’t your fault- apparently 52% of us are suckers.
Posted by: jophis | September 1, 2009, 1:01 am 1:01 am
allowing the murderer of 183 Americans to go free withot a peep? Posted by: Fascist Hyena
Obama’s responsible for that too eh’.. LOL
you guys are so sad
Posted by: Commie Rhino | September 1, 2009, 1:32 am 1:32 am
“John McCain could have been our president instead of the marxist we now have running loose.”
But John McCain came as a package deal with Sarah “Death Panel” Palin. Sitting pretty as VP, Sarah could easily have cooed the virtues of pal Betsy “Mad Doc” McCaughey into McCain’s ear and recommend her for health care advisor. She just wouldn’t tell old man McCain that McCaughey earned a doctorate in history, not medicine. And imagine the positions Sarah could finagle for her best buddies Beck and Limbaugh… I have to stop writing now; I just lost my cookies.
Posted by: WWW | September 1, 2009, 2:23 am 2:23 am
===Prisoners of war are not the only ones that are covered by the Geneva Conventions.===
Yeah, but “almost consistent”. Explain that one.
Posted by: Axey | September 1, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
“The Democrat Zogby now has him at 42% approval. Forty-two percent!”
ROFLMAO!
Zogby Interactive…..basically the least accurate poll out there taken from a self selected group of willing poll takers.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 1, 2009, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Why do they oppose an investigation into what was clearly illegal activities. No one, absolutely no one is above the law. It’s because the perpetrators of this crime were Republicans; specifically a Republican White House. And I would just bet that Cheney personally participated in the crime.
Posted by: DaveM | September 1, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
By aligning himself more closely with the far right McCain stands to gain a bundle on the lecture circuit. He doesn’t sound so mavericky any more.
Posted by: Cassandra | September 1, 2009, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
At least McCain still stands by the courageous truth, “if you inflict enough pain on anyone, they’ll tell you anything to make the pain stop. So you not only get perhaps right information but you also get a lot of wrong information.” Even as he backs keeping illegal actions secret, I’ll remember the man I admired pre-Palin.
Posted by: Cassandra | September 1, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
DaveM ——– Are you good with Pelosi’s knowledge of waterboarding? She knew which means it was illegal for her to allow it to happen?
Posted by: lfrichar | September 2, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am
I do agree with John McCain and Cheny.
Obama who apologized for what American had done to European chountries, the AG, Eric Holder who called American coward, Pelosi which positioned 3rd higest level USA called a true American Unamerican, SS Homeland, Janet Napolitano called attenders of TEA Party Terrorists, these all craps have agreed with reopening of CIA interrogation. If gaining the rights of Terrorists are so precious,importance and rush agenda for the President, AG, and Dem’s Senators of United America, why Obama will increase to send American troops of 30,000 to fight against the Terrorists in Afganistan?
AG Eric Holder said that “No one is above the law….” except members of Congress! Right now Pelosi is sitting on 11 ethics violations (7 Democrat, 4 Republicans) resisting having them sent to the House Ethics Committee! You have a den of thieves throwing bullets at the CIA, Federal Reserve and who knows what else! And the biggest crooks are the ones throwing them! Look at Obama ! He is from Chicago, he knows all about not being “above the law”. That’s why you create facades, like ACORN, to do the dirty work. FIRST, INVESTIGATE ACORN-FRAUDER-VOTERS, AND PELOSI LIE TO CONGRESSMEN.
Posted by: Unhappy w reopen of interrocation | September 2, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
McCain has no ground to say ‘no’ Bush and Cheney are both criminals and got to go to jail for lying, deception, and escalating tension in the world with stupid policies and wasting people taxes. Cheney was behind CIA wrongdoing and now they all are whining and begging for mercy – sleazeballs. Obama is on the right track.
Posted by: AndreyS | September 19, 2009, 8:25 am 8:25 am