Obama: Immigration Reform to Start Moving By the End of the Year

The time for Talk is over.
We need to get those millions of undocumented Democrats naturalized and registered to vote by fall 2010!

I hope this time immigration can be tackled in a reasonable way, one that puts the human and civil rights of current American citizens first and foremost. Beyond that, whatever else this country is able to afford to it’s neighbors can be provided.
National security demands that immigration not be “reformed” so much as systematized. If our economy needs the labor, good grief, double or triple the openings for LEGAL immigrants. Why is this so complicated. Let screened, selected workers come in with legal status, and work and live openly. Know who they are, and what they’re doing. Monitor and provide renewals for their presence in this country — within a strict LEGAL framework. Give them that basic dignity, and grievance (and all that goes with it) will be lessened.
Every other country on the planet, including Mexico, has a strictly monitored immigrant program that serves their needs. Why this is so beyond the grasp of the country that was first to get to the moon I have no idea.

This will be the final coffin of the USA, at least as we knew it. Unless I’m drastically mistaken Obama will go for an amnesty bill even worse than the previous bills and attempts. He will not listen to his initial core constituency but instead look to the “new voters” possible under a general amnesty and open borders. Obama, and his ilk, also like ideas of poor, uneducated people who hail from often corrupt and violent nations to move to the USA. They will vote how told, they won’t complain about corrupt politicians, and they accept police/military abuse because it will still be better than most countries they currently live in.

Can’t wait too long—potential voters.
Obama needs someone to replace all the voters that he punked in 2008.
They won’t get fooled again.

2010 is gonna be fun with all these xenophobic right wingers.
If the Hispanic vote hits 10%, the GOP could be done.

We have had a huge wave of immigration over the last 4 decades. It is rightly characterized as a cheap labor anti environment policy. Among the big casualties of the onslaught have been less educated African Americans. Population growth increases the labor pool and pushes down wages. More people require more energy, more food and more water – all of which places strains on the environment. Immigration is responsible for essentially all U.S. population growth over the last four decades. A stable population it is estimated require immigration to fall to a level of around 200,000 a year. All of the Visa program land a typical mix of workers – just average skills. There are not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands among the cohorts of legal immigrants- just the usual mix. Illegal immigrants tend to have very low levels of education and by breaking the law on entry reveal a propensity toward lawlessness.

Can’t wait too long—potential voters.
Obama needs someone to replace all the voters that he punked in 2008.
They won’t get fooled again.
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BRAVO! My sentiments exactly!

Immigration is a card that Western countries are playing in the global chessboard. China gives money and material facilities to developing countries to get their resources. We give them ALSO the opportunity to send some people to our countries. Africans see Rome, Paris, London or New York as a sort of second fatherlands. They don’t see Beijing or Shanghai in the same way… TILL NOW! This is an important advantage of the West in the race for African resources. The same is for South America. Many Latinos see Usa as their second fatherland. Racism and closed borders would just spoil this advantage of the West and help China to grow even more in the global trade. Think about it!

“Racism and closed borders…”
Its not about racism, not sure where your getting this at. We also don’t have closed borders. What we do have is immigration laws. My wife went through the entire naturalization process. Why should she even have to do that and follow the law if we are just going to let people come in illegally and just give them citizenship anyway? Why not just eliminate immigration laws which are designed to prevent infectious diseases, wanted criminals, and just about any other type of social issue from entering the country?
I forget the year, but Cuba emptied its prisons of some of the most dangerous criminals (not political prisoners, rapists, murders, etc) and put them on boats to the US, most of them made it here. Should they be allowed to immigrate or sent back to Cuba?
We need laws, we need them enforced.

If Barry thinks We the People are loud now, wait until the starts with amnesty. Bush tried it and now that Barry is losing popularity, people arern’t charmed by him any longer and are asking questions – loudly! The immigration ‘reform’ bill should be easy and short: Enforce the laws already on the books, period! If they’re here illegally, deport them immediately. Use e-Verify for all jobs and heavily fine employers that employ illegals. Cut off all social services for them and change Amendment 14 that allows illegals born in the US to immediately be US citizens and able to collect welfare until they’re 18. Amendment 14 was passed for slaves and it’s being used to our disadvantage. No amnesty; enforce laws and stop the political bs. We’re awake now and you work for us, Barry!

President Obama said today at a presser in Guadalajara, Mexico, that because he has so much on his legislative plate, and it’s important to “sequence these big initiatives in way a there they don’t all just crash at the same time,” that immigration reform will have to wait next year, yet movement will start rolling in the fall session of Congress this year.
Immigration reform should have been passed FIRST! If you are here illegally then you will deported back to your OWN country and have to enter our country legally just like everyone else.
This will save the state of California $10 billion annually alone (this number was factored AFTER figuring in the close to $2 billion they put into the state-huge discrepancy on what the state forks out for illegals versus what they put into it).

Oh boy. Think how many race cards can get played during THAT debate.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 10, 2009 7:17:29 PM
========================================Oh they have already been flying.
“If you are against illegal aliens getting a fair shake, you are racist”.
trust me, I am here in Houston and that card is thrown around like no ones business.
funny, you are here illegally and breaking our laws. If we break our laws we are arrested but if you do, we are suppose to look the other way and say nothing while we are footing the bill to take care ofyou and your family?
Right-i think not!

No Amnesty for illegals, If democrats pass this reform they will lose another block in thier pary, The loss will be far more staggering in thier voter base then giving illegals amnesty.

“Amnesty will be a big boost to the fact that within 20 years the voting majority in the US will be Muslims. GOD BLESS you all. I’m 69, and probably won’t see the outcome, but feel sorry for the younger generation.”
Huh? Muslims account for about 2% of the electorate.

As I read the comments here I realize once again how ignorant we, Americans, are. Recently we rejoiced over the release of our own journalists from North Korea. They had entered that country illegally. We sought clemency so they did not have to serve the twelve-year sentence.
Several years ago a US marine committed a crime in Mombasa, Kenya (murder) again we cried for mercy for him. Yet here we are: the one people in the world who should be the most compassionate; we sue our political muscle to get from other nations what we are not even willing to give to others. We have so many immigrants who entered illegally, many who just want to leave and go home yet we hold them for years.
We should not expect what we are not willing to give to others. Yes, there are laws. Let’s abide by them but in the meantime what do you do with people who have been in the country for thirty years? Twenty years? Who have US-born children? Who have paid taxes for years and the reason they are out of status is our immigration system?
Politics or otherwise, I say this in all sincerity, my God will resolve this if we do not do it according to His will.
God bless America

Obama, Reid and Pelosi seem to say “fire and American hire an illegal”. Business and farmers want cheap labor (including nannies, gardeners and ground keepers for the county clubs) the extreme left wants open boarders and votes. Limit less immigration does not work well when the governments has large welfare, education, health care programs. Massive illegal immigration is not working well for the environment in California.

Some say the existing immigration law is too difficult to enforce. This is not true. A little work place enforcement would go a long way. The mayors of big cities like Los Angeles and New York have become advocates of violation of immigration law. They indicate that any attempt to assist in enforcement of immigration law will make people unwilling to report other crimes. This same incredible argument might be made about shop lifting, tax evasion drug sales etc. So with hold some federal aid (for say law enforcement) to these rogue cities. Do away with citizenship for children born to anyone in the county that is not a citizens or a legal permanent resident. These three measures and a little border enforcement and the problem will be 80-90% improved.

Sorry immigration.

Let them all stay but don’t give citizenship, rather a right to work and come and go across the border as they wish. Their children will be citizens (if born in the US), but that’s already happening. Make them all pay a $$ fine, back taxes (if applicable) and let’s get them into the tax base. Also, rather than wait for the border to be secured, set a date (if Jann 1, 2008) that they would have to prove their presence in the US – that will stop the flood coming in to qualify for the program. Also, must learn English and not have any felony records ….

Amnesty for all illegals immigrants!
We the people of US were once immigrants too…came from England!!!

Immigrants do deserve the right to be legalized as long as they follow the path required for getting citizenship and prove that they can be an asset to this nation. This is a country whose economy is to a considerable extent supported by the work of millions of people being exploited by the greedy and unscrupulous. Think of all the natives that were assassinated by the invading immigrants who decided to make this land their own, the ancestors of those who now oppose immigration reform. Guess what, it’s payback time!

the only people who can morally expel others from this country are the natives americans – the indians. we all came here by sea, air, or trekked through the desert.