Obama Marks Katrina Anniversary and Plans Trip to the Big Easy This Year
From ABC News’ Sarah Tobianski and Sunlen Miller:
President Obama devoted his weekly address to today’s fourth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina and announced he will visit New Orleans by the end of the year.
The nation, he said, must learn from Katrina’s lessons in order to be “resilient” in the face of any danger.
“On this anniversary, we are focused on the threat from hurricanes,” the president said. “But we must also be prepared for a broad range of dangers – from wildfires and earthquakes, to terrorist attacks and pandemic disease.”
Concern has risen sharply recently over what effect the pandemic H1N1 virus will have as the fall season approaches and school begins. But, the president said, he is working with local, state and international governments to prepare for its risks.
President Obama pointed to work accomplished by his administration on Katrina recovery to ease concerns of his ability to handle crises.
“Since taking office in January, my administration has focused on helping citizens finish the work of rebuilding their lives and communities, while taking steps to prevent similar catastrophes going forward,” President Obama said. “Our approach is simple: Government must keep its responsibility to the people, so that Americans have the opportunity to take responsibility for their future.”
The president said that in the wake of Katrina, “many Americans questioned whether government could fulfill its responsibility to respond in a crisis,” but continued that he will no longer tolerate bureaucratic red tape or financial waste.
“Government must be a partner – not an opponent – in getting things done,” the president said. “That is why we have put in place innovative review and dispute resolution programs to expedite recovery efforts, and have freed up hundreds of millions of dollars of federal assistance that had not been distributed.”
This, along with the help of noble volunteers, is allowing the region to move forward in terms of schools, roads, health and safety, the president said, but there is still work to be done.
“That means continuing to rebuild hundreds of miles of levees and floodwalls around New Orleans, and working to strengthen the wetlands and barrier islands that are the Gulf Coast’s first line of defense,” President Obama said. “In Washington, that means a focus on competence and accountability. … And across the country, that means improving coordination among different agencies, modernizing our emergency communications, and helping families plan for a crisis.”
The president noted the 25 years of experience his FEMA administrator, Albert Sligh, Jr., has in disaster management – a value Obama played up on the campaign trail when frequently lambasting President Bush’s director, Michael Brown.
-Sarah Tobianski and Sunlen Miller
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“The nation must be resiliant in the face of any dangers…..”
“But we must be prepared for a broad range of dangers …..”
Like socialism, screwy health reforms, enormous budget deficits, uncontroled spending, fiscal irresponsibility, big gov’t., inexperienced amateurs making foreign policy, etc.
I guess he just forgot to mention those dangers.
Posted by: Terry | August 29, 2009, 6:44 am 6:44 am
The man is ALL mouth. This is just an excuse for another trip.
Posted by: MadeInUSA | August 29, 2009, 7:04 am 7:04 am
Among the dangers not mentioned is the Iranian nuclear program, nearing completion while Obama is still talking about ”reaching out” to the religious crazies that rule Iran, wasting time while they complete a nuclear device with BS talk about ineffective sanctions & ”tough” diplomacy.
I guess he doesn’t think a nuclear-armed Iran is dangerous. Personally, I think that someone who doesn’t think Iran is dangerous is dangerous.
Posted by: Terry | August 29, 2009, 7:20 am 7:20 am
I see some trends here:
America should STOP looking back to 9/11 , it’s time to forget about all that and look FORWARD and make 9/11 a day of service.
Not so much with Katrina.
Posted by: mjishernameo | August 29, 2009, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Another White House press release. Thanks ABC!
Posted by: BH | August 29, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Even more wasted taxpayer money. Obama must realize that the government HAS no money; it belongs to the people. Why are we putting a cent into an area that shouldn’t have been built in the first place. Totally insane. Totally racist. I venture that the only reason why he would throw around our money like confetti is because of the high proportion of African people that live in the area. There isn’t any RATIONAL reason !
Posted by: gjdagis | August 29, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am
I really do not want to see Mr. Obama in action when his reelection is approaching closer in 2012. I will be embarassed by his fake actions. He is so afraid to be known as a one-term Black President, instead of the first Black President.
Posted by: young_voter | August 29, 2009, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Too little, too late. He should have gotten his tail here today, the fourth anniversary of the tragedy. Instead, he does what this country always does, says a few nice words on the anniversary, makes a few promises that may ot may not happen, and them forgets us. The Gulf South is rebuilding with VERY little help from their own government on any level. USA? What is that?
Posted by: doctorj2u | August 29, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am
@gjdagis
So when Bush was throwing money around in Florida (alot more money and alot faster) your theory is that its only because its white people?
Get over the racist nonsense, its so twentieth century.
Posted by: Flash Override | August 29, 2009, 10:05 am 10:05 am
really do not want to see Mr. Obama in action when his reelection is approaching closer in 2012. I will be embarassed by his fake actions. He is so afraid to be known as a one-term Black President, instead of the first Black President.
Posted by: young_voter | Aug 29, 2009 9:19:26 AM
Correction the 1st bi-racial president
Posted by: 'Un-American' | August 29, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am
President Obama: “Our approach is simple: Government must keep its responsibility to the people, so that Americans have the opportunity to take responsibility for their future.”
Notice President Obama didn’t say to take responsibility for their OWN future. No! President Obama wants the American people to take responsibility for their COLLECTIVE future by giving the federal government the apparatus necessary to turn the nation into a nanny state.
Posted by: James Danley | August 29, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
“President Obama wants the American people to take responsibility for their COLLECTIVE future by giving the federal government the apparatus necessary to turn the nation into a nanny state.”
James did you have a domineering manipulative mother? You seem a bit neurotic about this.
President Obama has spoken strongly and repeatedly about the need for parents to take responsibility for involvement with their children, for individuals to take responsibility for themselves and for involvement with their communities and for people to get involved in the political processes to make those processes more accountable. Perhaps you need to listen.
Posted by: julieterra | August 29, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Listen?
You mean like when President Obama stated: “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”
Why do we need a civilian national security force that is over 1 million strong with a budget of over $500 billion? What are the national security objectives that they’ve set that our current law enforcement agencies are unable to handle? Who will make up this civilian national security force? Who poses the domestic threat that requires this civilian national security force?
Posted by: James Danley | August 29, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“in the wake of Katrina”
Actually, our outfall canal floodwalls fell down without even being overtopped (at less than half their design loads) because of negligent engineering in the design of those floodwalls’ foundations by engineers employed with the US Army Corps of Engineers as reported in the official levee failure investigation reports and reported to Congress by Corps leadership in June of 2006 and as decided by US District Judge S. Duval in 2006.
The levees did not fail because they were ‘overwhelmed’. Federal engineers made lots of big stupid mistakes. Our disaster was the worst engineering catastrophe in the history of North America and the engineers that designed and built and were responsible for those failed levees are the same engineers tasked to rebuild our storm surge protection system. And, the federal government gives us no choice (and never did), but to accept the Corps’ work.
Did you know that 90% of the metro area evacuated before the storm? It was the most successful evacuation of a metropolitan area in this country’s history. Did you know FEMA doesn’t let cities use un-air-conditioned school busses without seat belts for evacuations?
Did you know that the Lower Ninth Ward is but only 2 of the 140 square miles (in just Orleans Parish) that flooded when flood control structures fell down.
Did you know that 70% of New Orleans home owners had flood insurance? – a rate higher than almost anywhere else in the country.
Did you know that the flood, proportionally, killed just as many rich, middle class and poor as well as black, white, Hispanic and Asian New Orleanians? The only demographic that suffered more than the rest were our elderly who suffered the worst, by far. Did you know many thousands of New Orleanians died in the months after the storm from stress and depression, and are still dying?
The levee failures and subsequent flooding were NOT because of our corrupt local levee boards and politicians or because of weak soil, barges, wind, rain, land elevation, budgets, democrats, republicans, violent crime, an act of God, school busses, our culture, environmentalists, neighborhood groups. It wasn’t even caused by FEMA, our Sewage and Water Board or our state’s Department of Transportation, or our culture, poverty, lack of education or any of the other red herring issues very successfully promoted by so many. It was not the fault of flood victims.
Did you know that 50% of New Orleans is above sea level? Did you know ships must travel 96 miles upriver from the Gulf to reach New Orleans? – we are not a ‘coastal’ city. Did you know the Corps is mostly responsible for the losses of our wetlands that use to serve as a storm surge buffer?
Did you know that New Orleans has a higher percentage of residents that remain lifelong residents of their home town than any other major metropolitan area in the US?
My family home marinated in salt water up to the ceiling fan blades for weeks. It took us 27 months, but we rebuilt our home elevated above the Katrina flood line. My neighborhood is 60% re-inhabited. We keep life jackets on the coat rack and a pirogue on the porch. My family moved here from Nova Scotia in 1765 and will live here for another 250 years. I feel like a fish out of water anywhere else. I’d be willing to live on a houseboat if necessary. This is the only place I own property and cannot afford to move elsewhere even if I wanted to. My work is here. My life is here. We ain’t leaving.
Make no mistake, the USACE caused our losses. We do not trust the Corps’ competence, honesty or reliability.
Posted by: CrescentCityRay | August 29, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
“President Obama wants the American people to take responsibility for their COLLECTIVE future by giving the federal government the apparatus necessary to turn the nation into a nanny state.”
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James, are you claiming there isn’t already a so-called “nanny state” for the rich? Have you ever read Dean Baker’s book, *The Conservative Nanny State, How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer*?
think about bankruptcy reform, patent and copyright laws, the much-desired-by-neocons tort reform, and strict controls to limit the extent to which highly paid professionals
must face foreign competition. These restrictions take a variety of forms, but Baker’s key point in his book is that not everyone’s labor is placed in international competition. Those at the top of the wage ladder get to enjoy protected labor markets.
There are all kinds of government intervention that the right wing loves, loves, loves. I agree with Baker that cons love the nanny state as long as its designed to moving money upwards. The problem with liberals and Democrats is that they believe in fairness and equal opportunity.
The whole government intervention/nanny state thing is a canard. It’s the TYPE of intervention and who it benefits that gets cons goat.
Posted by: Alyson | August 29, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Alyson wrote: “I agree with Baker that cons love the nanny state as long as its designed to moving money upwards. The problem with liberals and Democrats is that they believe in fairness and equal opportunity.”
Liberals and Democrats believe in fairness and equal opportunity? That’s their rhetoric, but who has controlled the nation’s largest urban school districts over the past 50 years? They talk a great game, but only to keep the issue for the next election. They would rather talk about education reform for 50 years and continue to get re-elected rather than actually improve the education of their students. THUS these students are not given an equal opportunity as students in private schools.
Vouchers are not the solution to public education. HOWEVER they are the answer for those parents who want to get their children out of a school that is failing to educate their children and do not have the money to pay for private schooling. Vouchers give HOPE to students who want a better education–and an equal opportunity to the American Dream.
YET, it’s the Liberals and Democrats who oppose vouchers!
Posted by: James Danley | August 29, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
“According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, 76% of the money handed out for Arizona’s voucher program has gone to children already in private schools.”
The voucher program is largely a hand-out to the already privileged – and thus a failure.
Posted by: julieterra | August 29, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
The “Big Easy” qualifies as a microcosm of Obama’s vision for the U.S. and the globe. Everything government and on the edge of destruction.
Posted by: Reflect09 | August 29, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Julieterra, try telling the Washington D. C. parents whose children took advantage of vouchers that the program was a failure.
Posted by: James Danley | August 29, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Handing out vouchers to the privileged is a failure.
Posted by: julieterra | August 29, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Alyson, why do you conflate the wealthy and conservatives? I was poor and conservative as a young man and worked my way to a comfortable middle class life (not wealthy). Just because the wealthy may have co-opted the conservative message, you should not impugn the values of millions of hard-working conservatives. Maybe it is the Republican party you are thinking of.
Posted by: VincentAquilae | August 30, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am
It’s the TYPE of intervention and who it benefits that gets repub/cons goat.
Posted by: Alyson
excellent point Alyson, shame that the ‘media’ doesn’t show how this actually works in america..
Jake….. there’s a whole 1/2 hour show for you to spend illuminating Alyson’s point
Posted by: Don't shoot the wolf | August 30, 2009, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Julieterra, I am curiuous! If handing out some vouchers to the privileged means the voucher program is a failure does that mean handing out stimulus money to the privileged means that Obama’s stimulus program is a failure?
Posted by: James Danley | August 30, 2009, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Maybe it is the Republican party you are thinking of.
Posted by: VincentAquilae | Aug 30, 2009 1:19:01 AM
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If you’re a conservative libertarian and don’t vote for Republicans and their government interventions, then it wouldn’t apply to you and I’d see more of an ideological consistency, sure.
Posted by: Alyson | August 30, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 29, 2009 4:17:32 PM
Nice cherry picking of which point to argue. Worry about the speck in your party’s eye, dude. Defend that and then I’ll point out what’s wrong with vouchers, as julieterra did. (psssst. . . overall, it tends to move money upwards, which is why Repubs love it!)
Posted by: Alyson | August 30, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am
“As president, Barack Obama will ensure that New Orleans has a levee and pumping system to protect the city
against a 100-year storm by 2011, with the ultimate goal of protecting the entire city from a Category 5 storm.
Obama will also direct revenues from offshore oil and gas drilling to increased coastal hurricane protection.”
- from Obama ’08
Posted by: drjohn | August 30, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Julieterra, did the National Conference of State Legislatures provide the financial status of all of the parents of the 76% of the children who were already in private schools? Did the NCSL even provide the financial eligibility requirements for receiving vouchers in Arizona?
I know a single mother who raised her five children on Social Security survivor benefits and welfare. Yet due to scholarships and a student work program all five of her children went to Catholic school. Would you consider this single mother as being “privileged?”
What if parents with a combined income of $50,000 were able to scrape up the $6,000 necessary to place their daughter into a private school? Would you consider them privilged?
Just because students were already in private school doesn’t necessarily mean that the students come from a wealthy family.
Posted by: James Danley | August 30, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Alyson wrote: “Nice cherry picking of which point to argue.”
Well wasn’t Julieterra cherry picking in singling out Arizona to “prove” that the voucher program is a failure?
Posted by: James Danley | August 30, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Alyson wrote: “…overall, it tends to move money upwards, which is why Repubs love it!”
Actually we Conservatives love programs that move money downwards. Create the jobs; then the new employees will spend; which will create even more jobs; which these new employees will spend; creating even more jobs…on and on and on!!! THAT’s how you stimulate the economy!
Posted by: James Danley | August 30, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
THAT’s how you stimulate the economy!
Posted by: James Danley | Aug 30, 2009 10:47:52 AM
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heh, heh. James, everything you’ve supported on these boards has been of the trickle down-ilk, a theory which has been shown to shrink the middle class. As you told me once, you’re a self-proclaimed member of the vast right wing conspiracy. Let’s start with something simple. Who created more jobs, Clinton or Bush?
Posted by: Alyson | August 30, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
“Actually we Conservatives love programs that move money downwards”
It’s an odd characteristic of conservatives then that they complain bitterly about things they love. For instance they tried to blame the entire financial collapse on programs to fairly structure mortgages so low income people could afford to buy homes, and regularly use the word welfare as a synonym for delinquency. It must be a complex love-hate relationship only conservatives claim to understand.
Posted by: Skip | August 30, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Obama flies all over the country campaigning for government-run health care, and to NYC on date night.
He can’t go to New Orleans on the 4th anniversary of Katrina?
Posted by: bailey | August 30, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Reason #2388 not to believe Obama:
“Despite Obama’s promises that the stimulus plan would be transparent and free of politics, the government is handing out $720 million for border upgrades under a process that is both secretive and susceptible to political influence. This allowed low-priority projects such as the checkpoint in Whitetail, Mont., to skip ahead of more pressing concerns, according to documents revealed to The Associated Press.”
Posted by: drjohn | August 30, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Obama should have gone to New Orleans by now. He certainly should be in New Orleans to mark Katrina’s anniversary.
Obama is such a major disappointment.
Hillary 2012.
Posted by: R | August 30, 2009, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
“He can’t go to New Orleans on the 4th anniversary of Katrina?”
Can’t break into His all-important serial vacations, maybe.
Worse yet: if He goes to NOLA, He’ll have to deal with black people. POOR black people. LOTS of them.
When even James Carville’s twitting Him on Sunday teevee — as happened today — you’d think … but noooo.
Obama seems to have taken over the MAD magazine Alfred E. Newman persona — What, Me Worry?” — from Bush. Along with a lot of other stuff.
Posted by: Bet Noir | August 30, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
“Hillary 2012.”
Nonono: Dr. Howard Dean in 2012.
Posted by: Bet Noir | August 30, 2009, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
“Just because students were already in private school doesn’t necessarily mean that the students come from a wealthy family.”
Neither does it mean the tax payer or the government should subsidize them to step out of the public school system.
Posted by: julieterra | August 30, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
“He can’t go to New Orleans on the 4th anniversary of Katrina?”
But … New Orleans is uncomfortably warm in August. Besides, there might be a, you know, storm or something.
Maybe for Christmas, when it’s cold in DC.
Posted by: Bet Noir | August 30, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
It must be a complex love-hate relationship only conservatives claim to understand.
Posted by: Skip | Aug 30, 2009 11:42:07 AM
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:>)
Posted by: Alyson | August 30, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Alyson wrote: “Who created more jobs. Clinton or Bush?”
The last six years of the Clinton Administration Congress was lead by the Republicans. AND they had a surplus! During the Bush Administration from Sept 2003 to Dec 2007, 5 million jobs were created due to the Bush tax cuts. Nearly two million jobs were lost during the last year of the Bush Administration when Congress was controlled by the Democrats.
Posted by: James Danley | August 30, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Let’s just admit it, please James. The economy performed very, very badly under Bush– and it was due to HIS policies, Republican policies. It’s disingenuous to blame the Democratic Congress, which took over the majority in January of 2007. The gallant efforts of Bush’s cheerleaders can’t change the data–
As Bruce Bartlett points out,between the fourth quarter of 1992 and the fourth quarter of 2000, real GDP grew 34.7 percent. Between the fourth quarter of 2000 and the fourth quarter of 2008, it grew 15.9 percent, less than half as much.
Between the fourth quarter of 1992 and the fourth quarter of 2000, real gross private domestic investment almost doubled. By the fourth quarter of 2008, real investment was 6.5 percent lower than it was when Bush was elected.
Between December 1992 and December 2000, payroll employment increased by more than 23 million jobs, an increase of 21.1 percent. Between December 2000 and December 2008, it rose by a little more than 2.5 million, an increase of 1.9 percent. (IOW about 10 percent as many jobs were created on Bush’s watch as were created on Clinton’s– it’s not even close, even if you add in two million jobs which likely wouldn’t have been lost if not for Bush’s dismal and horrid economic policies.)
Between December 1992 and December 2000, the S&P 500 Index more than doubled. Between December 2000 and December 2008, it fell 34 percent. “People would have been better off putting all their investments into cash under a mattress the day Bush took office.”
Please look at the jobs created overall and per year in office for past presidents. Seriously. You have no idea what you’re talking about. How anyone can suggest that Republicans are more committed to and/or credible about job creation is a mystery– and very, very dishonest or misinformed.
Posted by: Alyson | August 30, 2009, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
So it’s just a coincidence that President Clinton’s forecasts of deficits as far as the eye could see in 1993, were turned around with surpluses in 1999 and 2000, while the Republican held majorities in both houses from January 1994 through December 2000! And the Democrats had no effect of the economy in 2007 and 2008!
If the Democrats had made the Bush 2001 and 2003 tax cuts permanent in 2007, we could have avoided much of the crash that took place during 2008. THAT crash, while due mostly to the flexible subprime mortgage fiasco, was exacerbated by the Democratic campaign rhetoric of raising taxes on the wealthy, raising capital gains taxes and letting the Bush tax cuts expire for those making over $250,000. THAT caused the wealthy to change their spending habits–including pulling their money out of the stockmarket–which resulted in the loss of nearly 2 million jobs in 2008.
Just compare the unemployment rise and the stockmarket drop during the 2008 campaign.
GDP grew the first two quarters of 2008. With the unemployment rate holding between 4.9% and 5.0% until May 2008 when it rose to 5.5%–DJIA was 13,058.20 on May 2, 2008 and was 12,390.48 on Jun 4, 2008. It was not a coincidence that Hillary Clinton dropped out of the presidential race in May.
Then in August and September 2008 the unemployment rose to 6.2%–DJIA was 11,715.18 on Aug 28, 2008 (the day Sen. Obama won the nomination). The assurance of and the eventual nomination of Barack Obama was not a coincidence.
THEN as the election of Barack Obama became more likely the unemployment continued to rise to 6.6% in October 2008–DJIA was 8,175.77 on Oct. 27, 2008.
The continued rise of the unemployment following the election of Barack Obama was not a coincidence: 6.8% in November 2008–DJIA was 9,625.28 on Nov 4, 2008 (Election Day) and 7,552,29 on Nov 20, 2008.
There was a substantial DJIA gain between Nov 20, 2008 and Nov 26, 2008 (a 4-business day gain of 1,174.32 points).
The unemployment rate was 7.2% in December 2008;
The unemployment rate was 7.6% in January 2009–the DJIA was 9,034.69 on Jan 2, 2009; and 8,281.22 on Jan 16, 2009; and 7,949.09 on Jan 20, 2009 (a one day loss of 332,13 points)–Inauguration Day.
THIS can all be traced to Obama’s rhetoric of wealth redistribution and his massive spending programs during the campaign. From May 2008 to Election Day, Nov 4, 2008 the unemployment rate rose from 5.5% to 6.8%. The DJIA dropped during the same time period from 13,058.20 to 9,625.28.
Posted by: James Danley | August 30, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Sorry, I meant to say the Republicans held majorities in both houses from January 1995 through December 2000.
Posted by: James Danley | August 30, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
James Danley – sorry but Alyson’s detailed facts far outweigh your ‘theory’ that Democratic campaign rhetoric caused all the greedy, rich people to start firing people, sell off all their stocks, drive their businesses into bankruptcy, crash banking, financial and auto industries and crash the entire global economy.
Posted by: julieterra | August 30, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
James, James, James.
When President Bush took over control of the White House with a Republican Congress they inherited the largest budget surplus in American History and preceded to pick it clean. Why the big change in responsible fiscal policy IF, as you allege (surely in jest or in an attempt to mislead) the Republican Congress was responsible for the economic success and job creation of the Clinton years?
President Clinton ran a unified budget surplus of $236 billion. Budget surpluses were expected to continue for another TEN YEARS when President Bush took office. Unfortunately, under the Republican’s watch BOTH IN THE WH AND CONGRESS, the federal budget plunged back into deficit, reaching record levels. Why didn’t the Republican Congress save Bush, praytell, why if they supposedly saved Clinton? And why were Republicans such as yourself mysteriously mum as George W. Bush and the Republican Congress raised the debt limit seven times? Bush’s tax cuts weren’t even what supply-side economics would recommend. The vast bulk of his tax cuts involved tax rebates—which failed in 2001 and again in 2008. Are you gonna blame the 2001 fail on Dems too?
We don’t want to hear it, frankly. Republicans are hypocrites. They use their own failures in promoting fiscal responsibility to argue that middle and lower class Americans and small businesses do not deserve relief from rising health care costs and premiums because of the deficit they themselves have created in their misguided attempts to “starve the beast” and repeal the New Deal.
Again quoting Bruce Bartlett:
“Conservatives delude themselves that the Bush tax cuts worked and that the best medicine for America’s economic woes is more tax cuts; at a minimum, any tax increase would be economic poison. They forget that Ronald Reagan worked hard to pass one of the largest tax increases in American history in September 1982, the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act, even though the nation was still in a recession that didn’t end until November of that year. Indeed, one could easily argue that the enactment of that legislation was a critical prerequisite to recovery because it led to a decline in interest rates. The same could be said of Clinton’s 1993 tax increase, which many conservatives predicted would cause a recession but led to one of the biggest economic booms in history.
According to the CBO, federal taxes will amount to just 15.5 percent of GDP this year. That’s 2.2 percent of GDP less than last year, 3.3 percent less than in 2007, and 1.8 percent less than the lowest percentage recorded during the Reagan years. If conservatives really believe their own rhetoric, they should be congratulating Obama for being one of the greatest tax cutters in history.”
And from the Center for American Progress:
“Those asking for more permanent tax cuts continue to justify the cost, claiming tax cuts create jobs.
But their analysis ignores what actually happened during the economic cycle that began in March 2001 and ended in December of 2007—which almost exactly coincides with the Bush presidency and the implementation of the Bush tax cuts. This period registered the weakest jobs and income growth in the post-war period. Overall monthly job growth was the worst of any cycle since at least February 1945, and household income growth was negative for the first cycle since tracking began in 1967. Women reversed employment gains of previous cycles. And for African Americans, the worst job growth on record was matched by an unprecedented increase in poverty.
Given this incredibly weak record, it is astounding that some conservative members of Congress held up—and eventually voted against—the Obama administration’s economic stimulus and recovery package because it did not contain additional permanent tax cuts. The anemic Bush economic cycle directly contradicts the idea that those tax cuts delivered broad-based economic growth and job creation—never mind the promise of long-term economic growth so quickly squelched by the onset of the recession beginning in December 2007.”
And let’s talk about this: Adding to the havoc wreaked by Bush and the Republican Congress was their wildly irresponsible political decision to fund the Iraq war off budget, using funds borrowed from foreign countries. To top that dumb decision off,the funds were squandered with carelessness, incompetence and an unprecedented lack of accountability. Aaaaaargh! Just going through it all makes my skin crawl.
Posted by: Alyson | August 30, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
James Danley – sorry but Alyson’s detailed facts far outweigh your ‘theory’ that Democratic campaign rhetoric caused all the greedy, rich people to start firing people, sell off all their stocks, drive their businesses into bankruptcy, crash banking, financial and auto industries and crash the entire global economy.
Posted by: julieterra | Aug 30, 2009 8:00:05 PM
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But you have to admit, Julie, that he has a very good imagination. Wow. I’ve said before that he should write movies– horror flicks.
Posted by: Alyson | August 30, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
“I’ve said before that he should write movies– horror flicks.”
No, I just can’t see James in the entertainment business as clerically fastidious as he is. He’s going to re-write the history books. There’s a good market–most of the red states aren’t happy with the books they have now.
Posted by: Skip | August 30, 2009, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Alyson, first of all President Bush inherited a recession when he took office (the Dot Com bubble burst of 2000-01). The Bush 2001 tax cuts were just taking affect when the attacks of 9/11 jolted our economy. The 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts limited the economic effects of 9/11. In case you don’t recall, all air travel was halted for three days. Even when air traffic resumed the American people greatly changed their travel plans and that nearly killed the tourist industry. And then we began the War on Terrorism. You can argue all you want about why we went to war–Afghanistan in October 2001 and Iraq in March 2003. But the fact is we did go to war–and still are at war.
Yet in spite of the war our economy was booming from Sept 2003 through December 2007–contrary to the claims by the Democrats and Liberals and some in the media. There were 52 consecutive months of job growth–5 million jobs created. The Dow Jones Industrial Average climbed from 7,591.93 on July 1, 2002 to 14,164.53 on Oct 9, 2007. Federal revenues reached all-time record highs. GDP was up 7.2% in the 3rd Quarter of 2003; up 4.0% in the 4th Quarter of 2003; up 3.1% for all of 2004; up 4.4% for all of 2005; up 3.2% for all of 2006;
In spite of the continued war; in spite of the downturn in the housing market in 2007; in spite of the skyrocketing energy prices in 2007; GDP was up 3.2% for all of 2007. And GDP grew during the first six months on 2008–up .09% in the 1st Quarter of 2008; and up 3.3% in the 2nd Quarter of 2008.
THOSE ARE GREAT ECONOMIC NUMBERS! Could they have been better? Absolutely! The Republicans failed to continue the retraint they had during the six years they controlled both Houses during the Clinton Administration. The Republicans abandoned their Conservative principles. Many of us were furious with both the Republicans in Congress and President Bush for not cutting federal spending. In fact, had the Democrats nominated a moderate in 2004, a candidate who believed in FIGHTING the War on Terror (like Sen. Lieberman) instead of one advocating defeat by arbitrarily pulling out of Iraq, many Conservatives would have stayed away from the polls in November 2004. And Bush would have been a one-term president. Instead the fear of what Sen. Kerry might do in the White House attracted just enough Conservatives to defeat Sen. Kerry.
Then in 2006, many Conservatives DID stay away from the polls. Their disgust with the Republicans in Congress gave control of both Houses of Congress back to the Democrats. NOTE: My disgust with the Republicans didn’t keep me away from the polls. Because I knew that pro-spending Republicans were still better than tax-and-spend Democrats.
Posted by: James Danley | August 31, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Correction, GDP was up 0.9% for the 1st Quarter of 2008
Posted by: James Danley | August 31, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Pssssst. I’d add many economists to the list of Dems, libs, and some in the media who rightly saw what an economic disaster the Bush years were. I’d also thrown in my stock portfolio, and business costs. But hey, those things don’t really matter, so bygones.
Posted by: Alyson | August 31, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Alyson wrote: “You’re data doesn’t hold up..”
Deny the numbers all you want. That’s nothing new! The Democrats and the Liberals denied the numbers at the time!
Had the Republicans in 2005-06 heeded the Bush Administration warnings regarding the state of the financial industry we might have averted the financial collapse in 2008. Had the Democrats heeded these warnings in 2007, we might have averted the financial collapse in 2008. If the wealthy had not changed their spending habits in the middle of 2008, the flexible subprime mortgage fiasco might have been delayed long enough for someone in Congress to pay attention to the warnings and corrected the problem BEFORE it blew up in our faces. Instead, the wealthy DID change their spending habits, the stock market plunged and as job losses mounted, the problems with the financial industry–specifically related to the flexible subprime mortgages–DID blow up in our faces! THAT turned what could have been a mild recession into the worst recession since the Great Depression.
Posted by: James Danley | August 31, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Also, James, as you know, I’d point you back to Bruce Bartletts piece regarding the GOP’s misplaced rage and recommend books by Dean Baker and Paul Krugman.
Posted by: Alyson | August 31, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm