RNC Radio Ad: Blue Dogs ‘Rolled Over,’ ‘Folded Like a Lawn Chair’
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: The conservative Democrats who are supporting House leaders’ health care plans are about to get another earful — courtesy of the Republican National Committee.
The RNC today is launching a new radio ad targeting four “Blue Dog” Democrats who voted for the health care plan in the House Energy and Commerce Committee last week.
The nearly identical ads — targeting Rep. Bart Gordon, D-Tenn.; Rep. Zack Space, D-Ohio; Rep. Baron Hill, D-Ind.; and Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark. — accuse the Democrats of supporting “Nancy Pelosi’s liberal agenda,” and of flip-flopping by supporting the bill in the key House committee.
In a statement announcing the release of the ad, RNC Chairman Michael Steele says: “By voting ‘yes’ on the House’s dangerous government-run health care experiment, these Blue Dog Democrats acted more like Nancy Pelosi’s lap dogs than fiscal conservatives. Talk is cheap, and their vote proves that their previous concerns were exactly that — just talk.”
Listen to the ad targeting Gordon HERE.
The ad script follows:
Comic Voice: “He folded like a lawn chair.”
Voice: “[Congressman NAME].”
Comic Voice: “He threw in the towel.”
Voice: “[Congressman NAME] did exactly what Nancy Pelosi wanted him to do.”
Comic Voice: “He caved in. He buckled.”
Voice: “[Congressman NAME] was one of just four congressmen who cast the deciding votes to advance Nancy Pelosi’s radical big government health care plan…[Congressman NAME] backed a plan that will cost taxpayers billions … just days after talking like he wouldn’t.”
Comic Voice: “He flipped. He flopped. He rolled over.”
Voice: “[Congressman NAME] could have stopped the expensive Obama-Pelosi health care plan dead in its tracks. [Congressman NAME] held a vote that counted. But instead of using that vote to help taxpayers, [Congressman NAME] used it to help Obama and Pelosi.”
Voice: “It’s big government. It’s big money. And it’ll hit you where it hurts.”
Comic Voice: “Ouch!”
Voice: “Call [Congressman NAME] at 202-225-3121. Tell him to stop voting with Nancy Pelosi.”
Disclaimer: “The Republican National Committee is responsible for the content of this advertising. Paid for by the Republican National Committee. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee. www.GOP.com.”
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Posted by: matt | August 6, 2009, 7:55 am 7:55 am
The American public is angry over this fraudulent “health care” plan with good reason. Obama has a single payer agenda as demonstrated by his clear statement recorded on a video. Obama now want Democrats to send him the names of people who disagree with him? I hope people realize what a monster they have elected.
Posted by: brian | August 6, 2009, 8:10 am 8:10 am
It is absolutely amazing how many people have been suckred in the the health care industry, especially the insurance companies. They will tell any lie, spread any rumor to defeat anything that will restrict their ability to raise health care premiums to higher and higher levels, to continue to deny people coverage they think they have. But the suckers will believe every word of it.
Posted by: Herb Gray | August 6, 2009, 8:26 am 8:26 am
brian, take a breather from your Rush-induced delusion. nobody’s trying to take away your healthcare (or your guns or your “freedom” etc). at some point, you may wake up and realize that massive changes have to be made to the system in place or anyone under 45 is going to have HUGE BILLS to pay and there won’t be ANY choice then. if you’re getting paid by insurance co’s or the RNC for your post, congrats. if not, you’re just the latest sucker shill.
Posted by: Bill | August 6, 2009, 8:34 am 8:34 am
Herb, it is rather amusing to read your opinion of those of us against the health care reform bills. You call us “suckers” and say we will believe whatever we are told. Do you not see the irony of your words? We are NOT dissatisfied with our current insurance policies. I have great health care, and I know of very few people who are truly dissatisfied with their plans. We KNOW what we have, and we want to keep it. And you, on the other hand, are willing to let your congress pass a bill that you know absolutely nothing about, that none of the congressmen or women have even read, that may very well take away the policies that the MAJORITY (73% are satisfied with their health care), and may destroy the innovativeness that has kept our country producing the best doctors, medications, and care in the world. All we are asking for is the the bill be transparent, that our lawmakers read and understand it before voting it into law. You are willing to have a bill passed that you have not even read, yet you say WE are the ‘suckers’?? How absurd is that. You guys are the ones that are taking the self-serving lawmakers at their word and swallowing their lies hook, line and sinker.
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 8:39 am 8:39 am
NCPilot, stop being disingenuous. “All” you’re asking for is NOT that your lawmakers read and understand before voting into law. Try that on someone who doesn’t know the game. And the silly fear-mongering of “they’re going to take your healthcare away” is just that: fear-mongering. It’s the same garbage that drug us into Iraq and kept us there for a bill that’s now over $1 trillion. An amount that could solve the healthcare issue.
Posted by: Bill | August 6, 2009, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Reality check…maybe you should take a clue from your screen name and do a reality check of your own. The folks that are visiting the town hall meetings are doing so at the behest of their congressmen and women. The latest story was of the DEMOCRATS who attended a town hall meeting for a DEMOCRATIC junior congressman at HIS phone request and told him that THEY, the democratic constituency, are against the health care reform bill. Now, explain again how the GOP organized this? I submit, sir, that YOU are the shill with your head buried so far up Obama’s behind that you can’t even see the light of truth: Obama is lying to the American people about the “dire need” for IMMEDIATE health care reform…so dire that the reform bills must be kept secret from the common citizens. So, reality check…how’s the air up there in that rectal cavity?
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Bill, take a breather from your MSM indused delusion. Yes your messiah is trying to take away your liberties and my guns and a lot of other rights that this country was founded on. But you just keep on believing that this is “for your own good” and leave it to the thinking Americans to stop this train wreck.
Posted by: billy bob | August 6, 2009, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Bill, you have not clue as to what “all” i’m asking for, so how dare you make that assumption? You seem to be so much like the typical liberal: Someone disagrees with your view, and you go immediately on the attack. You (typically) use vague statements as fact as if to try to prove you point. Silly fear mongering? What do you call it when your president states that if we do not pass this bill, our economy will fail? Same strategy as when he wanted the Stimulus bill passed….hurry hurry hurry. Are you so blind that you cannot see the reason for his hurry? 2010 will come and he will not have the majority he needs for hsi agenda. And for the record: IF the congress brings forth a bill that will truly improve health care, then i will be for it. But I will NEVER be for buying a pig in a poke. I will NEVER be for allowing my elected representatives and senators to blindly pass bills simply for the sake of passing a bill
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Let’s all remember that this plan is giving health care to people who DON’T HAVE IT! If you have insurance you will not notice a change! Do I totally trust the Govt. No But it is time we start taking care of our own. In the long run just with peventitive care, we will save billions. I don’t hear anybody who does not have insurance saying that this is a bad idea! Remember that could be you some day!!! If you think the the insurance industry is going to let the system change then you’re a fool, things will remain the same and the insurance companies will capitalize one way or anothe off this reform.
Posted by: Steve | August 6, 2009, 8:56 am 8:56 am
By the way bill: How do you know that this health reform bill will NOT take away my rights to private insurance?? You seem so venomously outraged that someone with a thinking brain and relatively high IQ would question the bill, and you breathlessly state that there is nothing in the bill to be worried about. How do you know? Why are YOU against the transparent government that you voted for? Also, how about telling me one thing that Rush has said that is not true about this bill? You and your ilk of finger pointing, name calling, childish behaving clan continuously whine about Rush, Sean, et al. Yet you can never come right out and give examples of their faults, except that you have been told to dislike them.
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Steve, we are all for health care reform but you are wrong in saying people who have insurance will not be affected. You have no idea what is being proposed and until this process become bi-partisan and not shoved down our throats i will not support it, period. The Govt. cannot run medicare and medicaid now, why do you think that they will do a better job running a national health care plan??? Call your congressman and tell them you want a bi-partisan health care plan.
Posted by: billy bob | August 6, 2009, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Steve, first of all, if this plan were simply to provide insurance for those too poor to buy it themselves, I would be for it. But it does not take 1100 + pages to simply buy insurance for the poor. It does not take a complete overhaul of a good system to provide for a small minority of our population. There were sections (page 16 of the original bill) that would essentially phase out private health care companies (a clause that even Obama admitted that he didn’t know was in the original bill). I don’t know whether that clause has been removed or not because the bill is being kept secret. There are clauses that will allow the government to make decisions about your health care depending upon your “probability of returning to the status of a ‘contributing’ citizen”. What about the doctor-patient privacy laws? And you talk about saving money? If the government would propose a COBRA like plan that would cover those without insurance and leave the rest alone, it would be BILLIONS of dollars cheaper than this boondoggle that is being proposed. Add the poor to a specially funded program. Leave the rest, the majority, alone.
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am
I received an email from a friend (it had about 3 rounds of forwards) detailing what someone thought were the most concerning points about the proposed health care bill with PDF attached. I have read portions of it (at 1000+ pages, it is a weighty tome!) in order to understand what our elected officials are trying to do for us… er… to us. The bill basically reads like an employer health plan document, only a little more complicated. As I went through the points that this email was concerned about, it became apparent that the originator was less than honest in their assessment, and EXTREMELY paranoid. But what the originator FAILED to point out was that this sucker is gonna be EXPENSIVE. As an engineer we used to have a saying when costing a machine to a customer – $100 for every drilled hole, $200 if we thread it. Following the same logic, socialized medicine is going to cost us $3 million per page, $6 million per page when it becomes the only option. And that is reason enough to reject this BLOATED socialist package.
Posted by: Disgusted1 | August 6, 2009, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Nobody That has health care wants government health care. Those who do not have health care, want anything they think the government will give them. The problem is the government screws up everthing it touches period and I don’t want them deciding whats best for me when they who make the decision choose not to participate and will have the best any care at Walter Reed only a Helicopter ride away 24/7.
Posted by: Bill | August 6, 2009, 9:12 am 9:12 am
billy bob, yes, I know, you’ve been told that if it’s not on Fox or Rush, it’s “MSM” and therefore wrong. keep shilling for insurance; they appreciate it. and they don’t even have to pay you because you’re been so hoodwinked. Remember: if you don’t hear it from the clowns on Fox and Friends, then it’s “drive-by and biased.”
Posted by: Bill | August 6, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am
This bill is intended to do exactly what Obama wants. If you change jobs or try to chnage coverage your only option will be the Gov. Ins. and in 10 to 15 years we will have a single payer health care. If you read the bill you will see all of this. They will have access to all your financial accounts so they can make you pay for insurance and additional health costs.
The most telling of all is that congress is exempt from all these provisions.
Posted by: dsimms | August 6, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Bill, i’m quite sure that I would prefer that someone who is so easily influenced by the MSM to NOT be my wing man. So thanks for declining. You are absolutely right that I am hoping for stall, question, and stall and question. That is my exact point. I will continue to ask for stalling and questioning until this bill has time to see the light of day. And I see nothing wrong with that. As far as my being unhinged? I’m not sure why you see any unhinging on my part, except for the fact that you seem unable to handle the fact that some will just not march in lock step with you and the others that are demanding a bill be passed without even knowing what is in it. IF you think for yourself, you’ll be able to tell me what it is that has your panties in such a wad concerning statements by Rush, Sean. You condemn them, yet when called on it, you have nothing to show. See, I think for myself also. Often, I think that Sean goes overboard. But I get my news from many sources, including this liberal site (ABCNews) AND Foxnews. I can see the slant of both. I read both. And then I decide. I am just pointing out that i am thinking that you do not do that. I am thinking that you take the liberal view as gospel, then try to spread it. So, sir, again, i appreciate you not flying as my wing…since i do believe we are going in different directions.
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Do you really want a government who pays millionaire land owners not to plant crops to try and reduce spending in the medical field???????? Plus NONE of these politicians will be on the plan they force on US.
Posted by: Bill | August 6, 2009, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Bill, you really are cluless as to how i think. I am a small business owner and I pay a small fortune every year to insurance companies. I rank them on the same level as attorneys. As far as where I get my news from it ios from multible sources including Fox and you should do the same instead of just deamonizing them because they might disagree with your pre concived notions. Use your brain that is why God gave it to you.
Posted by: billy bob | August 6, 2009, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Republican don’t want any change to health care with all those health care stocks they have. They want the companies to make more money not less. To speak to the other Democrats(conservative) like that shows their desperation and frustation to keep their money growing. Republicans don’t care about working people. Haven’t we learned anything! The reason for the ads is simple and clear. They know health care will change under Obama/Pelosi and THEY ARE SHAKING IN THEIR SHOES.
Posted by: lowes4321 | August 6, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am
In every aspect of everything I do that involves spending money, when there is competition, the consumer (me) gets to choose what best suits me. For something as important as the health of my family, I reject the monopoly system that currently exists. Hospitals, insurance companies and big pharmaceutical control everything right now because they can. They have investors and executives that must be paid so the average person has to settle for the crumbs they give us while accepting higher and higher fees for diminishing results. Lets have a VA-like government run plan compete for our healthcare dollars. If we can provide the best care to our brave and dedicated soldiers as well as the best care to our Congress and other government workers, why can’t the average American have the choice of opting into such a plan? Why? Because that would break up the monopolies. Why are average Americans defending the status quo knowing they are defending outrageous executive pay and profits for investors? Because the lobbyists are delivering them by the buss-load to make it appears as though Americans just need to say “No” to reform. I can’t afford to have my family be without coverage and health care so I want my representatives to come up with a plan that guarantees everyone has access and there is competition in the marketplace. Americans LOVE competition in everything else so why would we settle for a monopoly on our most precious possession… our health?
Posted by: Coleen | August 6, 2009, 9:37 am 9:37 am
NCPilot, so because I questioned you, I’m suddenly an unthinking MSM sucker blindly advancing the liberal agenda. Interesting. No, fascinating. No, hilarious. You have no idea who I am or what I watch or listen to. But because I happen to believe that we need some healthcare reform so that I’m not paying 50 cents of every dollar on my income 20 years from now (long after I’ve forgotten the difference between Lift, Weight, Thrust, & Drag), I’m just a sucker for the MSM. Hilarious. I’ll be my own PIC, thanks.
Posted by: Bill | August 6, 2009, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Bill, maybe you should go back and read all of the posts between you and me. And while you are at it, check out the post between you and the other intelligent folks in here that you posted. I think that you will find that it is YOU that instigated the issues about blindly following and “Shilling” (that was your word, right?). And now you are here acting all offended that you have been called on your blatherings. And are using, almost, the exact words that I sent to you concerning your blind attack on me and others. I do appreciate that since imitation is the highest form of flattery. And now it does seem that you got my message and the meaning of my words. Thank you.
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 9:49 am 9:49 am
…and what makes you think that you will be paying 50% of your pay on insurance? Where did THAT number come from? And if 50% of your earnings is too much to pay, how do you justify the taxation that this plan will result in? My home state just raised sales tax to 8.75 (democratic congress and governor). My property taxes are close to 4000 dollars a year. My State income tax is about 9% (and the Democratic congress and governor are proposing a ‘surtax’ on my income tax). My federal income tax is in the 28% bracket after adjustments. Add to that the “taxes” that are not taxes called Social Security and Old Age taxes. Oh, and let’s not forget the fees for driving my car to earn a living (gasoline taxes, license tags, emission inspections, etc). Can’t you see that we, the American citizen’s are being overwhelmed by taxes just to live?And you think, somehow, that this healt care reform bill will bring your costs DOWN????
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am
NCP, not offended at all. More amused. Go back and read the posts yourself. Perhaps you’ll recognize your glass house. BTW, 50% was a rhetorical tool intended to make the point that if we don’t fix the healthcare system, anybody who is younger than 45 now will be paying a huge tax bill 25 years from now. Who knows what % of our income it will be. But it will be huge. Look, the bottom line is the resistance to meaningful reform now (including the introduction of MORE competition through a public option) is being resisted by the entrenched interests of existing insurance companies and pharma. The cries of “don’t touch my healthcare” or the fear-mongering of “you’ll lose your healthcare” are being advanced by those who don’t realize whose bidding they’re unwittingly doing.
Posted by: Bill | August 6, 2009, 10:09 am 10:09 am
I’m flabbergasted at those of you who think you’ve got good health coverage and want to keep it just as it is. Are you so stupid as to think you can? I had good health coverage five years ago. Then the premiums went up, so my employer reduced benefits. Then the premiums went up again, and my employer increased the deductible. Then the premiums went up again, and my employer took away the drug benefit. Then the premiums went up again, and my employer dropped the coverage. This didn’t happen just to me. It is happening to 14000 people every day — EVERY DAY!!! Your day is coming.
Posted by: hang | August 6, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Bill, one cannot ‘unwittingly’ do the bidding of one’s own beliefs. My firm belief is, and has been, “do not allow a bill of this magnitude to be passed in the dark of the night. Do NOT do it behind closed doors. Let the citizen’s see and understand what the impact will be. Do not ask me to “trust” you since you have proven yourselves to be self serving and untrustworthy (both parties).” So, Bill, the bidding that i’m doing is my own. It is something that i fervently believe in: OPEN GOVERNMENT. Is that so wrong? Now, you and the poster below you (hang) talk about fear mongering by those of us who wish to actually see the bill before it is passed. Yet it is YOU that are doing the fear mongering (My insurance rates will go un-affordable, the economy will tank if we don’t pass this particular bill (Obama’s words), you will eventually lose your insurance coverage (paraphrased words of the above poster). I DID read the clause in the bill that will deny you private coverage if you change jobs. I know it’s there (or was). That is not fear mongering. It is exposing the truth that the secret government will not willingly let see the light of day. I heard with my own ears an administration official state that older people may be denied, say, hip joint replacement surgery, if they have little or no chance of returning to the status of “contributing citizen”. That is not fear mongering. It is searching out the truth. You claim to be a man that likes to think for himself, yet you take Obama and his cronies at their word that the health care reform bill is perfect and will cause no harm. I, one of a growing majority, refuse to take him at his word. SHOW US THE BILL BEFORE YOU PASS IT. Prove to us that you are not trying to take over the 7th largest private industry in the country the way you tried to take over the banking industry and the auto industry. Heck, it is the request of the majority of the people they represent. Is it not their job to represent all of us?
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 10:26 am 10:26 am
and, yes, hang, i reckon that i am so stupid to believe that my health care policy is safe. At least safe until the government takes over health care. Then, i don’t know. I am covered by BCBS of NC. When my wife retired (she was a nurse for over 30 years), she lost her coverage, but was picked up by in insurance policy. Although she had had a bout with cancer just 3 years prior, there was no question or denial of coverage. BCBSNC immediately continued her medical care and the drug insurance company assumed responsibility for her (very expensive) cancer drugs. So, yeah, I have faith and confidence in my coverage. And yeah, my portion of the premiums has gone up. My daughter’s child hood friend recently had to have a heart valve replaced. We live close to Charlotte, NC, but the best heart surgeon (in HIS doctor’s opinion) was in Raleigh at Duke. He was sent there for the surgery and it was totally paid for by his insurance company (i don’t know who his carrier is, but they paid it). So you have a long uphill battle to try to convince me that insurance companies that we have now would be better to be replaced by a government run organization mandated by a law that remains secret.
Posted by: NCPilot09 | August 6, 2009, 10:33 am 10:33 am
The Blue Dogs did fold and in some cases they may answer to voters for it. The health care reform issue is the billion-dollar corporations vs. ordinary people who know they will lose their insurnance as soon as they get an expensive illness. If the billion-dollar corporations are not part of the problem with their high costs and rescission, they would welcome the public plan. They could compete with it. But they can’t compete with the public plan while their CEOs continue to make more than twelve million a year and get seventy-three million dollar golden parachutes as does the CEO of Cigna. To compete with the public plan, they would have to reign in their cherry-picking and canceling insurance of the sick, as well as huge increases way over the amount of inflation. Enact a public option plan (such as congress enjoyes) and let the big corporations compete with it.
Posted by: JAB | August 6, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
If ALL Americans should be covered by this government run health care plan that means “NO ILLEGALS” WHAT PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE DO THESE PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND? AND IF “BAD BEHAVIOR” IS A CONCERN WITH THESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHAT PART OF HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX DO THEY THINK IS GOOD BEHAVIOR WHEN ABORTION WOULD BE PAID BY TAXPAYERS WHO DO PRACTICE “GOOD BEHAVIOR”!!
Posted by: Ross | August 6, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Posted by: Steve —–
Let’s all remember that this plan is giving health care to people who DON’T HAVE IT! If you have insurance you will not notice a change! —————Maybe you don’t understand. I pay for my health care and do not want my hard earned taxes to pay for someone else’s. The govt money used to pay for this is ours. Call me selfish, but I spend alot of money in taxes every year and this will be even more.
Posted by: lfrichar | August 6, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Bill- Are you so naive that you think this isn’t a dem plan to have single payer. Obama, Barney Frank and Nancy have all sais so.
Plus if you think about it logically instead of just listen to MR. Ed on PMSNBC all day you would see the facts.
Facts: I work for a hospital, I have the premium health plan. If a govt option is started and my employer decides to go with that, I would lose my current coverage, which im happy with. So it isn’t my choice at all. It would be the president of the hospitals choice which would effect 1000s of people who worked there so saying that “If you like your health plan you can keep it” is a total LIE!
2: I love how the dems are trying to use a capitalist argument to promote a govt takeover.
If there are two stores and one store (which is govt run) doesn’t have to make a profit. They can then afford to pay their employees more so they would get better employees. they can sell their product for cheaper thus taking business from the other store. Also they would be playing by different rules then the private run store. Eventually the private run store would go out of business.
That is what would happen to private insurance. This whole thing is a joke. WAKE UP BOB AND TURN OFF PMSNBC
Posted by: jon | August 6, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
It appears that there is alot of emotion involving the Health Care debate. I believe this is good when the outcome involves understanding and produces greater insight into the choices before us. There is no doubt Health Care Reform is an issue that many Presidents have attempted with very limited success. FDR wanted Health Care but was not successful but instead got SOcial Security. Lydon Johnson also was unsuccessful but instead got MedCare. Looking at the individuals involved in this group – one would think that its the 2008 Election all over again. Those who opposed President Obama are opposing him every step of the way on this. Our President campagned on this and he is attempting to make good on what he said he would do. If this was a sporting event it would be a somewhat even match – which is amazing considering what has happened with Health Care in the Past. I’m Retired Military – so I have a Great Insurance Plan – Government Run at that – but, I think Health Care Reform is needed and a Public Option is critical. I respect others who voted against the President in the past and still is not in favor of this policy. It’s a Great debate either way and as an American appreciate the fact that we’re having it.
Posted by: Kim | August 6, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am
All you have to do is listen to Pres. Obama speak on TAPE of the remaking of america, and read his book. Then maybe you wake up.
Posted by: Lizzie | August 6, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
What we need is ‘health cost’ reform. Not health ‘care’. If this bill doesn’t address tort law, it ain’t worth spit.
Posted by: LongT | August 6, 2009, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Why do we have to listen to the same people who brought us economic collapse, 11 trillion war and tax cut and TARP debt and 30 years of stymied, badly needed reforms? Why do we have to listen to these same failures and why does the mainstream media keep consulting them AS IF they knew what they are doing? They put us in the poor house and ruined our country, so why does their opinion matter so much now?
Posted by: JL | August 6, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Billy Bob, I highly suggest you read page 16 of the House version. It specifically points out, once the bill becomes law…..”ALL NEW SUBSCRIBERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO SIGN ONTO THE GOVERNMENT PLAN.” What do you think eventually will happen to private insurers in the future if they no longer can sign up new subscribers? I am soon to retire and have no interest what so ever to be forced onto the government plan if my company decides it can no longer afford the higher rates, or my present insurance company goes out of business. You people who favor this Socialized medicine proposal being rammed down our throats had better read the bill….and…..WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: gtessex | August 6, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
What he is really saying is these guys are democrats! Way to go guys! Now lets vote for public healthcare.
Posted by: rightbehind | August 6, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
You folks all know dang good and well that come 2012, everybody will have to be yanked out of office. Some of them WILL NOT GO QUIETLY. Then; after we get some folks who have brains and content between the ears; they’ll have to go through all this mess and repeal most of it. They will have to undo most of it in order to even begin a hope of repairing the financial damage in this country.
Posted by: J Kline | August 6, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
You guys are some piece of work. Instead of griping about the bill, go read it for yourself and quit depending on Rush, Sean, and Olberman. Quit assuming what will happen, if it is in the bill it will happen, if not it won’t. The bill is written like a bill, it will not be easy as 1, 2, 3, I give you that, but all you guys want to do is call Obama a thug and etc. Read the bill, quote the bill or shut up and quit writting on this blog. If you are afraid to read send me your complaint and I will tell you where it is written in the bill or if the bill does not say something about it, other than that, SHUT UP ALREADY!!!!!
Posted by: Frank Ben | August 6, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Attack ads from the GOP. Seems to me that kind of crap was what got them thrown out of office not once, but twice. And with that thought, I say to the GOP, “Yeah, baby! Bring on some more”. Hmm, what the definition of insanity again? Something about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result…
Posted by: DaveM | August 6, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Company’s should not have to insure their employees if they are not unionized. If people cannot buy insurance so be it. Taxpayer’s are going to be paying for other people’s insurance and this health care plan is a farce. Senior citizens who are on medicare should also be given a medicaid card that pays only 20% of what medicare doesn’t pay and they wouldn’t have to worry about insurance. The public should know exactly what this insurance covers and how much it would cost the taxpayer’s. Don’t be fooled by congress and Obama stating its free.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | August 6, 2009, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
well america, you get what you asked for!! don’t complain next year when the tax bill comes!! all these politicians do is lie and bait n switch!!! republicans, democrats… doesn’t matter! and you all fall for it EVERY time!! lol
Posted by: ruserious | August 6, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Blue dogs are cowards that put their
tails between their legs when their
master Pelosi calls. They will be in
office only until they go out next time
around with Pelosi and Reed. Vote them
out of office if they can’t stand up
to what the people want.
Posted by: jim | August 6, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Health care linked to employment is silly. We don’t work forever….
Posted by: Kenneth | August 6, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
This is not a bill about health. This is a bill for the government to take control over your life and privacy. Please vote no for this bad bill.
Posted by: m vale | August 6, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
How many times do people change jobs these days?
How often do they change health insurance?
Posted by: Kenneth | August 6, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Get sick can’t work? You’ll need some health care…
Posted by: Kenneth | August 6, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Let’s take the tax rebate of citizens with low incomes and buy them some health insurance. End of problem or is this too simple? I think many people are saying that it is unfair to raise taxes on working Americans to pay for health care for illegal people here in the USA.
Posted by: m vale | August 6, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Have you tried to read this bill? It’s too complicated and hard to understand. Who wrote it? Why are they making it so confusing? How can they pass something that no one understands? And it’s a matter of life and death to many.
Posted by: m vale | August 6, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Obama has closed his records to the public yet he wants all our medical records on a big government computer for all to see. What happened to personal privacy?
Posted by: m vale | August 6, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
If you work and pay taxes you now are paying for a singlepayer government run health care system, Medicare.
Posted by: don fowler | August 6, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
“he wants all our medical records on a big government computer for all to see” – Computerized records are being proposed so that if you have an accident in Kansas, your ER docs can access your North Carolina records to find out what allergies you have, pre-existing conditions, current meds, etc. Your paranoia is getting the best of you. Get a grip.
Posted by: Mark from atlanta | August 6, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
“Blue dogs are cowards that put their
tails between their legs when their
master Pelosi calls” – Substitute the words “insurance companies” for Pelosi and we can agree.
Posted by: Mark from atlanta | August 6, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
What I am reading here is alot of hypocrisy. PPl in one breath will boast that America is the greatist but then turn right around and say that the American system of Government cannot create a health plan for all Americans?
Do you not belive in great things that America can achieve? You want to trust health care to for-profit companies?
Why dont you explain how a for profit health care comapny is any different from AIG or other wallstreet comapnies?Do you really have no compassion or concern for people that cannot get health insurance from these companies?
Wow…I would think that all Americans ( who are proud to be Americans) would want a system that helps everyone in our society. America is the people…not the insurance companies.
Please tell us….the majority of Americans who want a good health care system…what is your plan that will help everyone instead of name calling?
You have no plan accept to do nothing.
I think your just only concerned about your own selves and not the common good of all American ppl. If you love America so much then why don’t you offer some help in making America a better place for all Americans. Nah…you cant do that because you want everyone elses slice of the American dream for a better life. You could care less if the American Dream lives or dies….as long as everything is all good for you.
Posted by: TheAmericanDream? | August 6, 2009, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
blue dogs are less than dust- they are tools of their insurance companies and are only cncerned with their own financial situation – have no interest in the well being of their constituents. That becomes more and more apparant every day = blue dogs have become red dogs – they have become republicans -
Posted by: 1369 | August 6, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
I find it shocking that the FEW people who still have any form of healthcare, but who have no idea how much longer they will have it, don’t care if other people have any at all. You had best begin to care about someone other than yourselves, because what’s going to happen is that sooner or later your will be tagged with the bill ANYWAY, so you might as well make it more affordable for everybody NOW. Because when all is said and done, the insurance companies and their clients/your employer won’t have enough to put into the pot, and you will be saddled with the ENTIRE bill. Collectively, we all pay less, but when only a few have it, YOUR costs continue to rise. Wake up!
And another thing, we the people need to step up to the plate a protest those in public office who sit on the boards of these insurance companies. I’ll bet this is the reason for the opposition to national healthcare — they fear hefty pay cuts, since not only do they sit on the boards, but they also have stock in the pharmaceutical companies, and fear having their dividends plummet. This would be most members of the GOP (and some Democrats), who ALWAYS go for the money — at least their own, while not caring if the rest of us breathe!
Posted by: SierraBW | August 6, 2009, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
It is an excellent program to get rid of old car, generally the cars in poor condition. It not only saves energy but also gives clean environment. It is good for the nation and good for the people in need of new car. Whatever Obama does, he does it for the future. Another excellent program is health care reform. The health insurance companies will not be able to cheat the people in future once it is implemented. The senate members and the congress will not get money from the private run health insurance companies. The CEO’s of the private run companies cannot swindle people’s money. The insurance premium will go down. The insurance companies cannot deprive needed treatment.
Posted by: jimjus99 | August 6, 2009, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
“he wants all our medical records on a big government computer for all to see”
The records will be kept on a smart card, similar to a flash drive, that will be kept in your possession. When you go to the doctor they will read the information and return it to you.
What else you got? Black helicopters, Area 51, Bigfoot…?
Posted by: OB-Wan222 | August 6, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm