The Note: The Legacy — How Kennedy’s memory could impact fate of final quest
By RICK KLEIN What would Teddy do? That depends on which lessons one might draw from the life and career of Sen. Ted Kennedy, here in this brief period where his passing has allowed a rare moment of reflection in the debate he never saw come to a close. There’s Kennedy the deal-maker, the one whom Republicans are pining for now, and who always wished he’d taken a half-measure on universal health coverage back when he had that fleeting chance. And there’s Kennedy the true-believer, the man whom liberals are, well, lionizing as they fight to preserve a health care reform bill they think Kennedy himself would have proudly championed. It’s these aspects of the towering Kennedy legacy — neither less true than the other — that now shape the health care debate. As that sorts itself out, three days of services and ceremonies start Thursday. After a noon ET private family Mass, the motorcade carrying the senator’s remains will leave the Kennedy compound around 1 pm ET. In Boston, it will pass some landmarks of his life — through the North End, the Rose Kennedy Greenway, and past Faneuil Hall and the State House — before arriving at the John F. Kennedy Library around 4 pm. Friday is for public viewing an evening memorial service. President Obama will speak at the funeral Saturday in Boston, before Kennedy reaches his final resting place, alongside his brothers at Arlington National Cemetery. In remembering a life and a legacy, that unfinished piece looms large: “Edward M. Kennedy filled two seemingly contradictory roles during his years in the Senate: He was known as the chamber’s most liberal member and as the Democrat with an uncanny ability to reach across to conservative Republicans and reach compromises,” Michael Kranish and Lisa Wangsness report in The Boston Globe. “The question is whether Kennedy’s death paradoxically might shift power farther to the left as other Democrats seek to solidify their base.” “The death of Senator Edward M. Kennedy has quickly become a rallying point for Democratic advocates of a broad health care overhaul, a signature Kennedy issue that became mired in partisanship while he fought his illness away from the Capitol,” Carl Hulse and Katharine Q. Seelye report in The New York Times. “It seemed unlikely that Republicans would suddenly soften their firm opposition in the aftermath of Mr. Kennedy’s death or that Democrats would relent on their push for substantial change, especially for a government-run insurance plan, which Mr. Kennedy endorsed.” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., to ABC’s Diane Sawyer on “Good Morning America” Thursday: “I would hope that his example of working together, coming together in the spirit of compromise, for the sake and the good of the American people, would have some effect.” Can it be both of these things? “Some lawmakers said Tuesday the current stalemate is the result of Kennedy’s absence for the past few, crucial months. Some hope to rescue the embattled legislation as his legacy,” the AP’s Laurie Kellman reports. The health care debate is missing a key player, but has a key source of inspiration. “You’ve heard of ‘win one for the Gipper’? There is going to be an atmosphere of ‘win one for Teddy,’ ” Ralph G. Neas, the CEO of the National Coalition on Health Care, told ABC’s Teddy Davis. Davis reports: “Democratic officials hope that invoking Kennedy’s passion for the issue will counter slippage in support for health care reform. . . . To infuse Kennedy into the health-care debate, Democrats are planning to affix the former senator’s name to the health-care legislation that emerges from Congress.” Politico’s Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin: “Kennedy’s death will frame the central struggle of Obama’s young presidency, the charge to drive health care legislation through the Senate. The loss of his vote and his deal-making prowess are a profound blow to the bill’s prospects, but his allies hope his memory will carry it through.” Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.: “If temperatures can cool, maybe Teddy’s passing will remind people that we’re there to get a job done.” “Will Sen. Edward Kennedy’s death be the catalyst for finally achieving what he called the cause of his life, health care for all?” Jill Lawrence writes for Politics Daily. “There are some differences even Kennedy wouldn’t have been able to bridge. At this juncture, with a strong ally in the White House and Democratic majorities in Congress, maybe he wouldn’t have been inclined to.” No one will pick up this mantle: “Throughout, there never has been a politician who brought more of that rare combination of commitment, passion and exuberance to the profession; he loved politics and understood better than anyone that it’s a human business,” Bloomberg’s Al Hunt recalls. “That’s why he was the best.” “The loss of Sen. Ted Kennedy to brain cancer has produced an outpouring of praise and affection from across the political spectrum — a reaction that in its own way only raises a profound question: Where have all the deal makers like him gone?” Gerald F. Seib writes in his Wall Street Journal column. Regarding the missteps, “He did more than outlive them — he made up for them. Teddy Kennedy constantly improved. Teddy Kennedy constantly got better,” Vice President Joe Biden told ABC’s Chris Cuomo, on “Good Morning America” Thursday. “He was one hell of a man.” What might be critical, depending on the deal that’s cut: “There is no Democrat — not even President Obama — who commands so much automatic respect on the party’s left,” Doyle MacManus writes for the Los Angeles Times. ”The biggest impact of Kennedy’s death . . . could be on his fellow Democrats who are divided over whether to create a public option to compete with private insurance, expand regional health insurance cooperatives, resist both because of concerns about spending and the impact on the private sector or hold out for a single-payer system that Obama himself doesn’t support,” McClatchy’s David Lightman and Margaret Talev write. Maybe getting through this period of Kennedy nostalgia during recess is the best timing Republicans could imagine. “When the veteran lawmaker died Tuesday night of brain cancer, the cause he long championed stood at a dangerous crossroads,” The Washington Post’s Shailagh Murray reports. “With Congress’s August recess nearing its end, the window is closing for opponents of a health-care overhaul to further undercut its public support before lawmakers resume working on the bill. Meanwhile, Kennedy’s memorial services and burial are likely to draw more public attention to his political career, and to the issues he held dear — including universal health insurance, which he once called ‘the cause of my life.’ “ Then there’s math: “Democrats quickly tried to turn the death of Massachusetts Sen. Edward M. Kennedy into a new spur for their stalled health-care overhaul effort. But the liberal icon’s passing could as well hobble the campaign, by depriving the majority party of a key vote at a critical juncture in the debate,” Neil King Jr. and Jonathan Weisman write in The Wall Street Journal. When you have majorities like these, sometimes you get to make your own math. “Governor Deval L. Patrick, breaking his silence on the future of Edward M. Kennedy’s Senate seat, yesterday embraced Kennedy’s request that the governor be given the power to appoint someone to the seat until voters can choose a permanent successor in a special election,” Frank Phillips reports in The Boston Globe. “Patrick’s public statements add to growing momentum for Kennedy’s plea, which he made last week in a poignant letter to the governor and legislative leaders.” “I’d like the Legislature to take up the bill quickly and get it to my desk and I will sign it,” Patrick told the Globe. On succession: “The race in the heavily Democratic state will be a five-month sprint that may pit some of the Bay State’s most prominent politicians and political families against each other.” ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, on “Good Morning America” Thursday: “Vicki Kennedy has really ruled herself out.” Former Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy II, D-Mass., “hasn’t completely ruled out going for this seat.” The last Kennedy… Per ABC’s Troy McMullen: “The death of Edward Kennedy late Tuesday after a yearlong struggle with brain cancer, and Eunice Kennedy Shriver, who died two weeks earlier after suffering a series of strokes in recent years, leaves just one remaining child born to Joseph and Rose Kennedy: Jean Kennedy Smith. The 81-year-old former ambassador to Ireland has long maintained a much lower profile than some other members of the extended Kennedy family. She skipped the funeral mass for her sister Eunice Kennedy Shriver to stay with her ailing brother, and has been seen in public very little in recent years.” Kind of a ridiculous day to try to break through with this maneuver: “Gov. Mark Sanford said Wednesday he won’t be ‘railroaded’ out of office, rejecting the latest request that he resign. Sanford spoke after Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer became the highest ranking Republican to ask the embattled GOP governor to quit,” The State’s Gina Smith and John O’Connor report. Final cease-fire in the card-check wars? “We have too many other things on our plate,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce, per Jennifer Robison of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. This sound familiar? “Organizers of an Anchorage event that has been billing Sarah Palin for weeks as a star speaker were left scrambling Wednesday after learning that the former governor won’t be there for tonight’s event and claims to have never been asked,” Sean Cockerham and Erika Bolstad write for The Anchorage Daily News. “It would be at least the fourth time in recent months that an anticipated Palin speech has fallen through after Palin and her camp disputed they had ever confirmed it.” “This is the first we have ever heard of a speech,” said Palin spokeswoman Meg Stapleton.
The Kicker: “The truth is he had expressed to his family that he did want to go, he did want to go to Heaven. . . . There was a certain peace there that was absolutely beautiful. It’s what life is all about and you would envy that kind of peace.” — Rev. Patrick Tarrant, to ABC affiliate WCVB-TV in Boston, on Sen. Kennedy’s final moments at his bedside.
“We will never see the likes of him again.” — Vice President Joe Biden, tearing up in remembrance.
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Hopefully we will soon be able to get on with the things that really matter, those being double digit unemployment, mounting national debt, deficit spending, inflation, diminishing GNP, foreign trade deficit, escalating foreign war commitment with a foe that brought Russia to her knees, the upcoming credit card financial crisis, home foreclosures, and hopefully our leaders will realize that the ramrodding of healthcare reform in the interest of providing affordable healthcare to people who can’t afford healthcare would add another burden equal to or even greater than the failed effort to provide affordable housing to people who couldn’t afford mortgages. Those people the legislations were targeted to help, now foreclosure victims, have lost their hope to own a home forever. If the healthcare reform is pushed through as our majority leaders envision it, only the wealthy will be able to secure quality healthcare in the future, and the hope for financial freedom will be lost for the middle class forever.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am
mmonroeliveson: ” hopefully our leaders will realize that the ramrodding of healthcare reform in the interest of providing affordable healthcare to people ”
The FACT is that if the United States paid the average of what every other first world nation pays per person for health care, it would save Americans a TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. The deficit could be gone (would require tax changes to pull that trillion dollars out of citizen’s pockets though, and it may be better to let that windfall create jobs), Medicare would be fully funded, and the national debt could be paid off in a decade – even at the current levels of spending.
It is simply ignorant of the budget reality to think that dealing with our out of control and grossly overpriced health care system is somehow unrelated to dealing with the nations budget problems.
FACT: The US pays over $2.2 trillion a year for healthcare.
FACT: The US spends (public and private combined) over twice as much as the average health care costs of all other first world countries.
FACT: The US’s life expectancy is not better than the average first world nation (we do have a lower rate of smoking).
FACT: The US would save between $500 billion and $1000 billion A YEAR if we got our health care spending down to just the average of other first world nations.
What do you think around a trillion dollars a year could do to deal with all those problems you listed?
Posted by: jhw539 | August 27, 2009, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Monroe – I’m always puzzled by people who think that our current private insurance standing between us and our doctor is a good thing. I was diagnosed with a rare cancer syndrome 9 years ago. I’m grateful to have government protected employer provided private insurance but for the last 8 years it’s been changed 4 times. That means 4 times to learn the new approval/authorization/permission process and which doctors/facilities are allowed.
Get cancer and require treatment? you will quickly learn that the administrative process with private insurance is a nightmare. It’s non standard and poorly controlled. as a patient you have to honcho all your payment processes thru the gauntlet. Lost claims, misfiled, rejected, miscoded… etc. And I have in mind a particular ring in Dante’s Inferno for this industry that uses’ voice response units – generated listening/responding – that can often be defective and hang up on you.
What is the plan for the uninsured woman who needs a mammogram? they don’t provide those via the emergency room the right touts as the health care answer.
Posted by: trueblue | August 27, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am
jhw539;Your speculation that by spending less for healthcare, much of which is patient out of pocket expenditures, will lower the national budget deficit is quite flawed reasoning. The only way the national budget deficit will be decreased is if more money is being contributed to the federal government by the private sector. That can only happen through tax increases or increased earnings by private businesses. Of course the government could spend less and that would diminish the budget deficit as well, but we all know that’s not going to happen. The only way the government gets money to spend is taking it away from the private sector or printing more and that’s the bottom line. Neither of those options benefits the private citizen.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
All right the man isn’t Jesus or God. Sorry that he is gone. However can we keep this real… Let’s treat him as the man is was. Just a man.. Nix the God like figure… Thank-You…
Posted by: Gregory | August 27, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am
What would Teddy do indeed.
Posted by: Gregory | August 27, 2009, 10:11 am 10:11 am
trueblue; Healthcare is not a right. Sorry you have health problems, but sounds like insurance helped take care of the expenses. I’m also glad to hear that your employer entertains competitive bids for your company’s insurance coverage. We need more competition between insurance companies. What we need to do is find ways to get your premiums down, decrease, not increase your co-payments, and streamline the paperwork associated with claim processing. Some tort reform as promised during the last presidential campaign would go along way toward lowering the expense of delivering healthcare. We have the best healthcare system in the entire world. Every breath you take is a testimony to that fact. The idea of paying less when every aspect of health care is for profit demands a decrease in quality.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 10:16 am 10:16 am
moronliveson
We have the Best Healthcare in the World 37th percent? stop with the Fox Lies! anyway google Glen Beck after his Surgery and see what he says about our healthcare funny everything you mentioned in your Post President Obama is trying to do Tort form is not the only way to do it!
Posted by: Angie in Pa | August 27, 2009, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Yes Amie, we do need to get the costs down. But why is it you always go back to accusations about Bush or Fox news. People come here from all over the world to secure healthcare unavailable to them in their home countries. Yes it’s expensive. Anything of quality is expensive. We need to find ways to make it less expensive. All aspects of healthcare have become for profit endeavors. There’s no way to give away healthcare without the providers compensating by charging more to those who don’t get it for free. If the profits aren’t there no one will be interested in becoming doctors, medical R&D will come to a screeching halt, hospitals will fold, you won’t be able to call an ambulance for emergency treatment and transportation etc. etc. etc. It’s simply a matter of supply and demand. There’s an extreme demand relative to the available resources and this is an ever increasing deficit situation as the baby boomers age and immigrants populate our nation, and American citizens irresponsibly procreate. No mean spirited demeanor here. I’m simply stating the facts. No amount of scheming and dreaming or rationalization will change the facts.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Section 431(a) of the bill says that the IRS must divulge taxpayer identity information, including the filing status, the modified adjusted gross income, the number of dependents, and “other information as is prescribed by” regulation. That information will be provided to the new Health Choices Commissioner and state health programs and used to determine who qualifies for “affordability credits.”
Section 245(b)(2)(A) says the IRS must divulge tax return details — there’s no specified limit on what’s available or unavailable — to the Health Choices Commissioner. The purpose, again, is to verify “affordability credits.”
Section 1801(a) says that the Social Security Administration can obtain tax return data on anyone who may be eligible for a “low-income prescription drug subsidy” but has not applied for it.
privacy issues anyone???? identity theft by disgruntled workers?
Obama and his self professed commie advisors wont get away with this.
Posted by: stardate: 2732.5 | August 27, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am
“Healthcare is not a right”
Let’s here it for mmonroeliveson and all Republicans: If you are uninsured and sick with cancer YOU SHOULD DIE QUIETLY.
According to his logic, an uninsured hit and run victim should be left in the street like a squirrel.
Vote for the PRO-DEATH Republican party!
Of course, besides failing as a human being, mmonroeliveson seems to have failed math.
As another person noted, THIS COUNTRY WOULD HAVE $1 TRILLION A YEAR to spend on education or fighting terrorism or eliminating the debt if we spent the same much as the average of the top 20 industrialized countries, who have as good OR BETTER life expectancy as the U.S.A.
Vote! Vote! Vote!
Posted by: Walter | August 27, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am
mmonroeliveson NEEDS to do some reading. People are going FROM THE U.S. to India for life saving operations.
I remember one gentlemen on the radio. He was self-employed with a landscaping company. When business slowed down, he dropped his health insurance because he could no longer afford it. Then he found he had cancer.
The same radio story included people who were given thousands of dollars in cash to get treatment overseas, and of course, save the insurance company money!
Posted by: Walter | August 27, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am
mmonroeliveson “But why is it you always go back to accusations about Bush or Fox news?”
Fox “News” is in the propaganda business. It is not an objective source for news, they are pushing an agenda, and manipulating viewers to do it.
Surveys show that FOX viewers are three times as likely to believe healthcare reform myths, such as that the health care reform bill sets up death panels.
My God, disagree on policy if you wish, but don’t use LIES to argue your case. THat’s what makes me crazy about the right: misinformation, slander and lies are how they campaign.
Posted by: Amy in Maine | August 27, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am
stick to common sense reasoning. there’s no reason why compromises can’t be reached. I don’t watch Fox news I listen to NPR because there I get to hear all aspects, all points of view of what’s going on. NPR doesn’t lean toward commentary either. I assess the facts and form my own opinions. You don’t hear me spouting the doom and gloom from either extreme point of view. And furthermore, unlike you who either volunteers to be ablogger or else is being paid to promote the liberal point of view, I work and pay taxes and have served my country and have witnessed the fall of our government into being a provider rather than a protector. I have witnessed the fall of our population into being dependents rather than self supporters and contributors other than being contributors to our problems.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Walter; Don’t equate life expectancy with healthcare. No amount of healthcare can compensate for people abusing their only bodies through drugs, alcohol, lack of physical exercise and especially through becoming obese. Our lack of longevity can be directly attributed to our lack of self respect and lack of personal responsibility. It’s always someone elses fault.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Walter; People go to India and Canada and Mexico for medical care not because the quality there is superior. It’s because it’s less expensive for people who can pay out of pocket. U.S. healthcare would likewise be less expensive if healthcare charges were paid out of pocket, if the middlemen are eliminated. And as for your specific examples of people in need of healthcare who didn’t qualify or couldn’t afford it, there will always be case situations that fall through the crack. No one has ever escaped this earth alive. Sooner or later we will all die. Therefore we should all adapt a value system and lifestyle that hedges against financial loss to our families in the event of our demise. Meanwhile we should concentrate on quality of life on this earth which has nothing to do with opulence. If we’re takers we will someday run out of resources to take from. If we are givers the giving is returned many times over.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
TED KENNEDY, the Senator most responsible for the mistreatment of Robert Bork and thereby the invention of the term “Borked” will be tied to Judge Bork for all time and, will always come off second best to Bork. To put it simply, Ted Kennedy’s memory has been “Borked”.
Posted by: Ron | August 27, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
jhw539…plain and simple….tort reform, without the bill stinks of hypocracy. on cnn today a doctor indicated that 200 billion could be saved here. to not have it taints the entire bill. thats the probelem, the nation is not quite as dumb as nancy pelosi thought they were and her motives are less than genuine.
Posted by: catman | August 27, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
jhw539…you keep quoting fact this and fact that. are most facts merely accepted opinions and by whom? kind of like global warming? i want health insurance reform not health care reform and like most people dont want to pay for illegal aliens and those who can pay. we all want to help the truly needy. so why is this so difficult? because is really about a government takeover that most people dont want,
Posted by: catman | August 27, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am
” And as for your specific examples of people in need of healthcare who didn’t qualify or couldn’t afford it, there will always be case situations that fall through the crack. No one has ever escaped this earth alive. Sooner or later we will all die. Therefore we should all adapt a value system and lifestyle that hedges against financial loss to our families in the event of our demise. Meanwhile we should concentrate on quality of life on this earth which has nothing to do with opulence. If we’re takers we will someday run out of resources to take from. If we are givers the giving is returned many times over. ”
People are waiting hours in lines for free clinics. How is that for “Quality of life”?
Large companies are only giving their employees a four-day work week, so they don’t have to provide health care. These are college graduates that don’t smoke or drink or in any way abuse their bodies. The future of our great country… I guess we can’t afford to give them quality of life…..
Posted by: scentsofroses | August 27, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
catman; Yes, and tort reform would be savings that would be perpetual. The rising cost of healthcare in the midst of runaway inflation is likewise perpetual. Attack the causes and cure the problems. We need cures not Band-Aids.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | August 27, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
seems to me that if the govt option is scratched the bill will get done and good changes will be made. so we really are talking only about the govt option because thats whats stopping this bill. because the govt option means i am going to have to pay for your option. when it was prommissed to be tha same health care as congress with no tax increase it sounded TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. thats because its not true.
Posted by: catman | August 27, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
scentsofroses…then create tax incentives to allow employers to pay for health care.right now hiring someone is furthest thing on any businesses mind beacuse of the intangible costs of doing so. we are becoming like france.
Posted by: catman | August 27, 2009, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
“Tort Reform” is actually a concept cooked up in the PR offices of the Phillip Morris company to fight class action suits brought against Big Tobacco.
Typical right wing agenda: convince average people they are threatened by the very folks who sue on their behalf. The lawyers who sue companies that make defective pool drains, or doctors who operate negligently. Yeah! that’s the “enemy”. Those trial lawyers winning big awards for patients who had the wrong foot amputated. Yeah, right, that’s our biggest problem. (You don’t think 8 out 10 medical bills containing errors is a prolem?)
Posted by: Amy in Maine | August 27, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
amy in maine…you are paying for those suits if you pay for health care. your argument is circular. i thought this was about cutting costs? obviously its not. when i am offered the same coverage as a congressman at no additional cost as obama prommissed tahen i will shut up. in the mean time if its too good to be true it isnt.siding with trial lawyers? ah hah.
Posted by: catman | August 27, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Again, I ask the question: Who is going to pay for all of this? We baby boomers are retiring and will have greatly diminshed income. The free ride is over, folks! When my generation is fully retired, there won’t be enough people to fund social security, let alone handle all of these entitlement programs that Obama and company have come up with. While they appear laudable on the surface, let’s get real! I’ve never collected a dime in 43 years + of working, and I did hope that social security would contribute a portion of my retirement income (notice I didn’t say all); but it is looking less and less likely.
Posted by: JWinATL | August 27, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
catman
“Tort Reform” “Tort Reform” the right wing makes it seem like trial lawyers are the reason our healthcare system is so expensive, ignoring the fact hospitals are eating the cost of treating millions of uninsured or under insured people, that cost is being passed on to us too. Furthermore, why are health care costs lower in some towns than others in the same state? Malpractice insurance costs the same, but some places have much higher costs due to mismanaged care, including financial incentives for doctors to order unneeded tests.
Posted by: Amy in Maine | August 27, 2009, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
amy…trial lawyers are not the reason but a reason. as cost savings must occur to omit this one seems like political payback and hypocracy to the average american. credibility is lost as a result. i want insurance reform not health care reform.the govt picks winners and losers. thats wrong
Posted by: catman | August 27, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
amy some places that have higher costs than others stems lack of competition and some areas are more litigious than others. where i live we have higher costs than the rest of the state but we have the highest doctor per capita in the state and the best health care. doctors flock here as we have no managed care and they can get paid what they are worth . i get what i pay for.
Posted by: catman | August 27, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
catman and monroeliveson
Not sure why, but ABC has post my replies to you.
May I simply suggest you go to some non-partisan sites to get some info on healthcare reform that is FACT based.
The right wing is manipulate you, my firends, and NO, Monroeliveson I am NOT a paid blogger. I work two jobs and pay taxes, its just I get my news from less biased sources than you do.
Posted by: Amy in Maine | August 27, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
oh, sure, they post the ones I have typos in.
Posted by: Amy in Maine | August 27, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Only a man’s politics are important. Honesty, integrity and similar traits are of no concern to the Dems.
Posted by: Rasputin3.14 | August 27, 2009, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I recently attended a very informative town hall featuring a panel of local physicians who all adamantly opposed health care reform because of the unrealistic (out of the mainstream) proposals by the liberals. People are “waking up”- other than the 15% of physicians represented by the AMA.
Posted by: aknideas | August 28, 2009, 1:42 am 1:42 am
What would Teddy Do? The real question is what would John Kennedy do? My guess is he would not only vote against this monstrosity, he would actually be considered a conservative in today’s political climate.
Posted by: pauldia | August 28, 2009, 7:34 am 7:34 am