Throw Down: Geithner Blasts Government Regulators for Criticizing Administration’s Financial Reform Measures
ABC News’ Matt Jaffe reports: The Obama administration’s sweeping financial regulatory reform proposals have been met by criticism from lawmakers and the financial industry, but dissent from fellow federal regulatory agency heads was too much for Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to take. Last Friday, Geithner said enough is enough, using a meeting at the Treasury to throw down the gauntlet to officials from other agencies. “We planned this meeting as a venue to deliver a tough message to regulators that we should work together to get reform done – and focus less on protecting turf,” said Treasury spokesman Andrew Williams. As reported by the Wall Street Journal, Geithner directed an expletive-laden critique at the heads of the Federal Reserve, the FDIC, the SEC, and other agencies. One source familiar with the meeting said, “It was a sh*t storm." In recent weeks, Fed chief Ben Bernanke, FDIC chair Sheila Bair, and SEC boss Mary Schapiro have all expressed reservations about various parts of the administration’s plans, which would shift responsibilities among the agencies – some would gain power, some would lose power, and some would gain power in certain areas but lose in others. In public, Geithner has downplayed the differences between the agencies, taking a far more moderate tone. At a House Financial Services Committee hearing on July 24, Geithner told lawmakers, “They are doing what they should, which is to defend the traditional prerogatives of their agencies.” But in private, judging by the tone of last Friday’s meeting, Geithner left no doubt that the time for the agencies to air their views had run out. In a calculated attempt to silence the dissenters, the Treasury chief made it clear that the in-fighting had to stop. Whether it will or not is another matter, but the first sign may come this morning before another congressional hearing. Representatives from some of these regulatory agencies – including Bair from the FDIC – are testifying at a Senate Banking Committee hearing on the regulatory reform overhaul. — Matt Jaffe

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Geithner just needs to remember to pay his taxes and hand the reigns over to Peter Schiff.
Posted by: Huh | August 4, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am
By reform they mean centralizing decisions under the president.
Posted by: robert verdi | August 4, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Looks like somebody’s unraveling…can’t hide a socialist hijacking even when the clowns run the entire country.
Posted by: Diane Suffern | August 4, 2009, 11:03 am 11:03 am
So much for being independent agencies…
It’s the Chicago way.
Posted by: ThomasD | August 4, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
They will all meet in the back of the White House for a beer and even Joe Biden will show up.
Posted by: sandra | August 4, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am
The Obama administration is a top-to-bottom mess.
Unfortunately, Americans are going to continue suffering due to The Obama Buffoon’s arrogance, narcissism and incompetence.
Obama is a bad, bad news for America.
Posted by: Derrick | August 4, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Remember drones, Chicago Jesus inherited Geithner from EVIL BUSH!
Posted by: John | August 4, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am
If all three are objecting to the reform, how is Tim the one who is “right” or “correct”? I can understand maybe one, or two, but all three plus the financial sector, plus members of congress, and Tim is an appointee… something doesn’t jive here.
Posted by: KR | August 4, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am
PAY YOUR TAXES, TIMMY.
Amateur hour in the Administration again.
Helluva job, Barry and Co.
Posted by: Good Lt | August 4, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Boy, Obama and his cronies are real Jokers!!!!!!
Posted by: Jody from NYC | August 4, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Looks like Timmy is acting his age.
Posted by: Aaron | August 4, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
My My – Tax Cheat Timmy goes Postal!! Not surprising. They HATED him at the IMF. He’s an angry little man and you can see it in his eyes. He can’t get past the reality that some people have more money than he does (or ever will) and he’s getting his revenge now.
He still owes the IRS penalties and interest……….!!! Would any other tax-payer be able to just NOT PAY???
God help us if we don’t throw these power maniacs over board and GET THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Why so serious?
Posted by: Nick Danger | August 4, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Does Geithner have any support staff yet or is he still coming up with this stuff himself?
Posted by: robtron12 | August 4, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am
It won’t be long before the “heads of the Federal Reserve, the FDIC, the SEC, and other agencies” are labeled as right wing extremists. How dare they oppose the administration’s policies?
Posted by: mbs | August 4, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Where did you get the Geithner came from Bush? I wasn’t in Bush’s cabinet. He worked for the Fed.
Posted by: Jaimo | August 4, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Had I been there, my response would have been as follows:
“Calm down, Tim. We all know that this is a TAXING subject. But at the end of the day, we need to PAY strict attention to the economic realities that are facing this country and not simply DODGE the hard questions. After all, it’s our job to protect rank and FILE Americans, isn’t it?”
Posted by: rvasta | August 4, 2009, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Turbo Tax was unavailable for comment.
Posted by: crushliberalism | August 4, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Why so Socialist?
Posted by: Eric | August 4, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Geithner is the biggest mistake Obama has made… he never should have been given a job.
His own people have no faith in him and for sure the american people do not trust him.
He needs to go
Posted by: lm | August 4, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
This is exactly the type of “professionalism” I have come to expect from the Obama white house.
Posted by: angienc | August 4, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Wow I am sure a nice little threat against these peoples family was included. Thugocracy!!!! We all know we are in big trouble but we are almost helpless to do anything before it’s to late. This man is not incompetant!!! We have to stop thinking that. Every move me makes is calculated. Maybe not by him but calculated. Every bill he has passed and those proposed are giant welfare schemes to take money from one group and give it to another of his choosing. I don’t have a answer to stop it but I think it is time to start a counter alinsky group. We need to fight for our rights and not lose this great country. We don’t have the luxury of swimming to a country that is the greatest in the world. Once this country is a nanny state joke like EU then what. Well take comfort it won’t be long before a iranian bomb takes us out. Policys of appeasment always meet a fist!!!
Posted by: Shannon | August 4, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Nicely done rvasta!!!
Timmy was probably the last pick in gym class for teams and this is his PAY BACK to all of us – so he’s sure he gets those who didn’t pick him.
Did you see the photos of his house that won’t sell……..the blue tile bathroom???!!! YIKES!
This would all make a very funny TV show but the horrific part about this is that it’s reality. The damage being done is in some situations irreversible.
But not surprising when the Keynesian Economists start rolling in – the Free Market and the American Dream are flattened.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Geithner represents trickle-down STREET-PUNK politics at it’s best.
Posted by: JKR | August 4, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Even Bernie Madoff said the “regulators” turned their heads. Geithner is right. It’s the old school regulators these Obama haters should hate on! What do you think McCain/Palin would have done by now?
Posted by: Gerald | August 4, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Gerald, this is about power and not about regulation.
Name an instance where federal regulators have ever caught someone before they had a financial meltdown?
We’ll be waiting.
Posted by: Nick Danger | August 4, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Hey it gets worse. The FannieMae/FreddieMac free-for-all with Barney Franks as Drum Leader isn’t over. He’s back at it again pushing for the banks to lend to people who shouldn’t be borrowing and may not even be able to fill out the paperwork!! I guess he must have a new boyfriend employed at one of these agencies who is in line for a big bonus.
WHO ELECTS THIS MAN TO OFFICE?? Or is it like the old saying in CHICAGO – Vote Early and Often??!!
All at our expense.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Little Green Elf Attacks!
This is the worst administration in history. Where is Code Pink demanding our soldiers get out of Afghanistan! Worst month since the war started, and not a peep about casualties. Now, the ABC New/Politico/Linda Douglass Cabal is sliming anyone who dares to voice dissent against the Administration as racists paid for by the insurance industry. So voters who disagree with Obama are on the take — so says ABC News.
I guess this is what Rahm TELLS them to say in those conference calls.
Posted by: karen | August 4, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am
trying to protct turf is one thing, trying to enact some sense into the financial system. What bothers me about Tim is that he was HMFIC in the NY branch of the fed and should have known what was going on years ago. And to the guy who thinks Barney has a new “friend” in line for bonuses. Mr. Frank does know about business, he learned from his boyfriend who was trunning the call service from his basement.
Posted by: david | August 4, 2009, 11:47 am 11:47 am
*What do you think McCain/Palin would have done by now?*
Irrelevant. ONLY thing that matters is what the current acting president does.
Posted by: Matt | August 4, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
=== What do you think McCain/Palin would have done by now?===
Whatever McCain wanted them to do. Just as Biden isn’t making decisions in the Obama administration, Palin wouldn’t have made decisions in a McCain administration. One thing we know McCain tends to keep his word, so for starters, you could go back and look at his campaign rhetoric and see what he said he would be doing.
Posted by: Axey | August 4, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am
-Does Geithner have any support staff yet or is he still coming up with this stuff himself?-
For some crazy reason, people don’t want to work at Treasury. I can’t imagine why…
Posted by: Tom | August 4, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am
“Last month, Goldman said it set aside a nice round $11.36 billion for employee compensation and benefits through the first half of 2009, which includes salaries and annual bonuses. That averages to about $386,429 for each of the company’s 29,400 employees, consultants and temporary workers.”
Posted by: Bet Noir | August 4, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am
–Worst month since the war started, and not a peep about casualties.–
Rocket attack in Kabul last night.
Posted by: Katyusha | August 4, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Obama doesn’t appear to CARE about the people in the military. When the soldier was shot at the recruiting station – Our current Commander and Chief – made no comment.
He did have time to get into the Cambridge issue – falling on his sword in the process. Beers with Biden in the Rose Garden takes precedence over casualties in Afghanistan.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
The media is quiet about the war because George Bush is out of office. They dont care now what’s going on in the war. They did all they could to discredit every effort Bush made in the war. So we know Obama will never come in for criticism whether on the war or some other front.
Posted by: Swamp Fox Of Va | August 4, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Mr. Geithner is right that it is past time for others to complain. The new regulations have to be enacted to protect us and the system.
While I would hope that in the future Mr. Geithner would find better ways of dealing with this frustration I can understand why the outburst happened. He downplayed all the criticisms for so long and the others just kept pushing his buttons. That does not excuse the behavior but does make it understandable. I forgive him and do trust him.
Posted by: Judy | August 4, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Can we call them totalitarians yet?
An F bomb tirade, the true mark of a man in control of his team and his emotions.
America, this will not be pleasant. you will not enjoy this.
Posted by: jukin | August 4, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
“He did have time to get into the Cambridge issue – falling on his sword in the process. Beers with Biden in the Rose Garden takes precedence over casualties in Afghanistan.”
Helping Harvard pals takes precedence.
Posted by: Tom | August 4, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
2010 — Kick the Dems out and reduce Obama’s power!
Posted by: JournoInHiding | August 4, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Despite the program’s popularity, cash for clunkers is bad medicine for the U.S. economy.
The first problem is that under the terms of the program, any used car that is traded in must be scrapped, and key parts like the engine and drive train destroyed. Thus the program pays people to junk cars that still have economic value. A good friend, for example, is planning to trade in a car that is in good working order. Before the program, he had planned to use the car for another couple of years.
How can it make any sense for policy to encourage the destruction of working cars? Proponents of the program offer two rationales: that the higher fuel efficiency of new cars will reduce the use of fossil fuel, and that the increased demand for new cars will rescue the failing auto industry. Neither of these defenses passes muster.
Cash for clunkers will have a minor impact, at best, on the use of fossil fuel. Many people who trade in clunkers would have upgraded to more fuel-efficient vehicles within a year or two anyway. Thus the program might hasten the adoption of more fuel-efficient cars and trucks, but this is a modest, one-off effect.
Worse, cash for clunkers might cause more driving, since new cars are more fun to drive, and more fuel-efficient cars are less costly to operate. Plus, it takes energy to scrap old vehicles and produce new ones, so the net effect of the program might even increase the use of fossil fuel.
Posted by: People's Republic of Obama | August 4, 2009, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
I just saw this: “Seven southern states now have double-digit unemployment rates, an unusual concentration in a country with a national rate in June of 9.5 percent. The list includes Florida, which two years earlier had one of the lowest jobless rates, at 4 percent.” Wouldn’t it be nice if the folks in these seven southern states could bottle Geithner’s outrage with government regulators and his Keynesian Economic theories, take them to the supermarket and trade the bottles of “outrage and theory” for a cart filled with food. Only then will I offer praise to this Administration.
Posted by: Percy | August 4, 2009, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Maybe what’s got Geithner so testy is the dropping dollar and the fact that the Chinese aren’t buying his obvious lies about being able to keep it propped up.
Look at the 5-day profile of DXY. You’ll note that Friday it fell steeply and the bottom is nowhere in sight.
Posted by: SnowCrash | August 4, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Hello Judy – if the EXISTING REGULATIONS had been enforced much of this downturn would not have happened. FOLLOW THE MONEY and take off the rose colored glasses.
The Wall Street Journal was waving red flags for 10 years and the Congress was following the yellow brick road and mainstream press were trying to load every failure on George Bush.
Tim Geitner scares me and I’m not so sure his anger shouldn’t be directed at his BOSS who has made promises that are just not financially possible. Printing money isn’t a cure and the debt is like lead sand-bags on a hot air balloon.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
“I forgive him and do trust him.”
Judy, I’ve got a bridge I want to sell you. Historic, great neighborhood, fantastic shape, best views…
Posted by: Bensonhurst | August 4, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
“I forgive him and do trust him.”
Judy, I’ve got a bridge I want to sell you. Historic, great neighborhood, fantastic shape, best views…
Posted by: Bensonhurst | August 4, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Hey people, Timmy, Paulson, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan, Bernakie, they are all from GOLDMAN SACKS. Figure.
Posted by: Carol in Alabama | August 4, 2009, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Cash for Clunkers – that was a fast spin on the slot machines – wasn’t it?
We all took on debt to pay other people to turn in cars they cannot maintain to get a new care (most of them were made outside the USA) – that they probably won’t be able to maintain and make the payments!!
Added plus – we scrapped cars that could have been donated to charities who depend heavily on these donations but Obama pulled the rug out on them with no heads-up.
And another completely inane proposal he is planning. Cap charitable contributions for high income earners. That’s REALLY brilliant – I can just see all the Charities and Universities having strokes over this concept.
But it’s not surprising folks – this administration keeps BELIEVING that what they think is PERFECT. They ignore and apparantely don’t ever consider the ongoing impact of these proposals. If teaching institutions see a huge drop in endowments or contributions – and with all those dead-head tenured professors to pay – end results tuition costs rise significantly. SUPER IDEA? ….NO …STUPID IDEA.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Timmy, Larry Summers, Greenspan, Paulson,John Thain, Bernakie boy, they all came from Goldman Sacks, They call them”Goldmanite’s”.
Posted by: Carol in Alabama | August 4, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
“And another completely inane proposal he is planning. Cap charitable contributions for high income earners.”
C’mon, it’s not like the gov’t has no use for it! Goldman Sachs has bonuses to pay.
Posted by: Win/Win | August 4, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Excuse me Axey: You are totally wrong, I think that Palin would have had a lot to say. She forgot even during the campaign that she was running for v.p. and never mentioned Mc Cain only herself. Mc Cain does not keep his word as he has not fought for the veterans he so often talks about. What has he achieved for them? He didnt even fight for good hospitals for them. Bob Woodward brought that to light, not Mc Cain. At least this administration has made it possible for them to get an education when the leave the service and that reverts to their children should they not return. I would think that an American such as Mc Cain would be fighting for veterans rights even during the Bush administration but he wasn’t. He also said he would never resort to the same tactics which were used on him when he ran against Bush but he forgot that and did the same to Obama as was done to him, misquotes, lies, misconceptions, etc. You forget Bush even knocked Mc Cain’s war hero record..I remember because I wanted to vote for Mc Cain and I was enraged by these tactics. However, when he ran, the swift boat tactics came into play.
It became politics as usual.
Posted by: talmag | August 4, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
The Fed(Federal Reserve) is supposed
to be an Independent Agency apart from
the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial
Branches of our government!
Although the president appoints it’s
Chairman they have traditionally been a
bi-partisan group(the fed governors).
Since when does Geithner as Treasury
Secretary get to tell the Fed what to
do? Has the Fed been politicized?
Is Geithner behind this bogus
stock market rally we’ve been
experiencing? This is no logical
explanation for the rally.
Unemployment remains high, GDP continues
to be negative, home sales are up but at
significantly lower prices.
More than 85 percent of the stimulus
money has not been spent.
Posted by: reaganfan | August 4, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Dear Mr. Geithner: Please pay your taxes on time, or zip it! Who are you to lecture anyone on anything!!
Posted by: Obama, the Second Coming | August 4, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
“He didnt even fight for good hospitals for them. Bob Woodward brought that to light, not Mc Cain. At least this administration has made it possible for them to get an education when the leave the service and that reverts to their children should they not return.”
This is truely distorted. McCain was fighting to turn the Disabled Vet system into an insurance program and close down the VA hospitals which are horrible. They aren’t horrible because of lack of funding, they are horrible because they are run by the government. I know, I’m a disabled vet, live next to the best VA hospital in the country, and I refuse to go there.
Also, Obama wasn’t responsible for this bill you love so much. It was signed into law last year by Bush. Obama was one of 42 co-sponsors, not a sponsor of the bill and literally had nothing to do with its forming. It just went into affect and he took credit for it. You obviously believed he did it. Who is the one with their head in the sand here?
Posted by: KR | August 4, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
“Also, Obama wasn’t responsible for this bill you love so much. It was signed into law last year by Bush.”
Then the bill must be bad. Bush signed it. Bush is bad. Obama is good!
Posted by: Stakanovite | August 4, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
The right wing is swarming way too early.
The next important elections are a full year away, and by then the Obama administrations approaches are going to look brilliant as the Recovery and Reinvestment plan comes fully on stream, the world economy continues to recover, health care is passed and the fear and smear fades away, Guantanamo is successfully closed, a possible decent peace truce is coming to fruition in Israel/Palestine and so on.
I suppose the right knows this is the only time to attack, but its too early and the jism will be blown by 2010.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I’m always so intriqued by this “magic” of closing Guantanemo Bay – as though it magically makes terrorism end. The headlines from Australia today should be a harbinger that terrorism is ongoing and spreading and expanding. And as far as the prisoners. I lost friends at Ground Zero – I would volunteer to fly to G.B. (and so would many of my friends) to waterboard anyone who had ANY information that would save ONE INNOCENT LIFE.
Recover and Reinvestment – HAH! With higher and higher taxes and more new taxes looming – as I’m typing this people with wealth are looking to move offshore or put it all in tax free bonds and go on vacation for 3 1/2 more years. There will be more than a few countries who realize our loss could be their big gain and they will WOO investment money to a tax free zone and WOOSH – the money goes somewhere.
And as far as PEACE in the Middle East – I don’t know what Kool-Aide you are drinking or what your age is but my honest opinion is that it has the highest probability of NEVER HAPPENING. The players change and the world turns. We also have Korea to contend with – or even look at CHINA. The men under 30 years of age in China outnumber the women by a head count EQUAL TO THE POPULATION OF CANADA. You honestly think all these men are going to be happy to go through life as bachelors with no partner??? History shows that countries have invaded other countries for reasons like this one.
I can just see all the Trophy Generation members sitting in waiting rooms for Health Care with their ear buds and cell phones. Lost in a sea of music and texting as they wait MONTHS to get an appointment to see a Doctor under a Federal Health Care plan. But it will actually give them something to do because, as the recent college graduates are finding out, THEY WILL HAVE NO JOBS.
Good paying jobs and industries will have left the country and gone to safe havens and those countries with a younger generation that DOES study math, science and actually speak English better than the average young person here in the USA.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
“Geithner Blasts Government Regulators for Criticizing Administration’s Financial Reform Measures”
Read what isn’t said. He isn’t saying they are right or wrong only that they shouldn’t CRITICIZE the administration. How fascist will this administration turn out to be?
Dems? Libs? Leftists? Is dissent still patriotic?
Posted by: Blue Skies | August 4, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
How dare those government regulators criticize our Dear Leader and his administration!? They better be careful or Rahm might show ‘em how they exact revenge in Chicago!
Posted by: SweetAlmondVerbena | August 4, 2009, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Maybe… Timmy G got called on the carpet about saying that the middle class will get a tax increase and Obama will break his promise.
Timmy gets yelled at by Obama (or worse, Rahm), Timmy then yells at his fellow federal regulatory agency heads. They in turn yell at their spouses. Their spouses yell at their kids and their kids yell at their dogs.
Obama/Timmy = pet abuse.
Posted by: Blue Skies | August 4, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
We need input from Joe Biden and the financial czar, whomever that might be. Then we will know where we stand.
Posted by: moron | August 4, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Danita – I’m LIVING THE AMERICAN DREAM. I’m the grand-daughter of men and women who escaped Eastern Europe to come to this country – which they loved – for freedom. My blue collor family WORKED for everything they had and taught us to do the same and we did. We TOOK NO HANDOUTS. We benefited from NOT spending more than we made and always making sure we helped those who needed help. My grandparents saw what TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL MEANT. The village my maternal grandmother grew up in disappeared under Communism.
My father and my husband fought in WWII and Vietnam and most of the men & some of the women have been proud to wear the uniform and protect and defend the freedoms of this nation.
I can see that all these actions by the current Administration have just in these few months already ROBBED THE NEXT TWO GENERATIONS OF THE AMERICAN DREAM – and I’m standing up to stop them from affecting future generations.
If people didn’t have enough sense to make their lives DEBT FREE during the past boom – they can’t blame anyone but themselves. Instead the spent money like drunken sailors, borrowed and lived beyond their income and gave their children a lifestyle that was rife with overindulgence to the point of beint vulgar.
And now – Obama wants to take MORE MONEY FROM ME to make life easier for those who truly believed they could live beyond their means FOREVER.
NO THANKS.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Unfortunately Mr. Geithner represents the thugs on Wall Street who are sucking the middle class (of all partisan stripes) in this country dry.
It started with Paulson and it continues with Geithner. I truly wish organizations like ABC would investigate what is truly happening. The reforms that are being discussed won’t help the average reader here or the nightly viewers.
While this comment is no place to expound on the problems, suffice it to say that Bernard Madoff himself was asked how he was able to “pull it off.” He didn’t say reform was needed—he pointedly said the SEC was asleep.
Honest brokers, investors, and businesses continue to play by the rules and a few gangsters continue to terrorize our economy.
Posted by: Terry | August 4, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
BRAVO TERRY -
And the SEC and oversight from CONGRESS looked the other way over and over again. Someone should FOLLOW THE MONEY and the relationships and “free passes” would be obvious. In BOTH the private and public sectors. Maddof can’t be the only crook in town.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
will the next 2 billion last another 2 weeks where were these people during math class. well obama lies everyday I thought he attended a christian church where was he the day thay taught about lieing. where will he be on the day america gets attacked again playing hookie. god help america
Posted by: jim bradford | August 4, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
–Timmy gets yelled at by Obama (or worse, Rahm), Timmy then yells at his fellow federal regulatory agency heads. They in turn yell at their spouses. Their spouses yell at their kids and their kids yell at their dogs.–
I think Geithner was the only one yelling. (Obama is too busy getting uptight over the Joker posters popping up in LA). I bet people at that meeting had to stifle laughs. I know I would have been. When they got home they probably cracked up. Tim has his knickers in a twist because nobody respects him (they shouldn’t) and he can’t play with all the toys in the sandbox like he wants to.
Rahm got smacked by Issa over some letters too. Called out big time. The cracks are showing and it ain’t pretty. But it sure is funny.
As for the $ for Clunkers, the gov’t won’t release data about it. Why ever not?
Posted by: Wiggy | August 4, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
The Obama administration is REFUSING TO RELEASE GOVERNMENT RECORDS on its “cash-for-clunkers” rebate program that would substantiate—or undercut—White House claims of the program’s success, even as the president presses the Senate for a quick vote for $2 billion to boost car sales.
Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said Sunday the government would release electronic records about the program, and President Barack Obama has pledged greater transparency for his administration. But the Transportation Department, which has collected details about 157,000 rebate requests, WON’T RELEASE SALES DATA that dealers provided showing how much U.S. car manufacturers are benefiting from the $1 billion initially pumped into the program.
The Associated Press has sought release of the data since last week. But the public and Senate Republicans demanding more information will have to wait for details because federal officials running the program don’t have time to turn over data delivered by car dealers, said Rae Tyson, spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
If the program has been such a success, why stonewall the AP, not exactly known for its hostility to the Obama administration? Perhaps because earlier administration claims about the program will be exposed as lies or exaggerations. For instance, LaHood claimed that the program most benefited Ford and their Focus. However, the AP has seen data that shows that the domestic automakers aren’t benefiting nearly as much as the White House claims — and that six of the top ten models sold in the program come from Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai.
Obama wants billions of dollars more in taxpayer subsidies for clunkers. Taxpayers have a right to know how their money already got spent in this program. Indeed, that data belongs to the public, and we certainly should review it before Obama spends billions of dollars more on it. That’s what transparency is all about.
And if Obama stonewalls on how money gets spent on Cash for Clunkers, imagine how he’ll react to demands for the records on ObamaCare.
Posted by: We'll decide what you need to know | August 4, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Read what isn’t said. He isn’t saying they are right or wrong only that they shouldn’t CRITICIZE the administration. How fascist will this administration turn out to be?
Dems? Libs? Leftists? Is dissent still patriotic?
Posted by: Blue Skies | Aug 4, 2009 2:05:17 PM
__________________________________
Post of the day! Exactly! Who knows, these regulators could even be wrong, but it’s their right to speak out against it should they feel the need to. Only in communist nations to they squash dissent! Everyone, left, right, center should be afraid of what this administration is capable in this regard!
Posted by: Obama, the Second Coming | August 4, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Tiny Tim’s going down.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | August 4, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
“the current Administration have just in these few months already ROBBED THE NEXT TWO GENERATIONS OF THE AMERICAN DREAM” Posted by: ILona English | Aug 4, 2009 2:26:54 PM
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You’re way too lat ILona, the Bush administration did the robbing – doubling the national debt and selling the country off to China in debt bonds.
That administration also presided over the largest ‘outsourcing’ of American jobs overseas that has ever taken place.
And in the end, when that administration left office, the national debt was doubled and the economy was in virtual free-fall collapse.
Your grand heroism is admirable, but you missed the boat.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
–And in the end, when that administration left office, the national debt was doubled and the economy was in virtual free-fall collapse.–
And Obama and his tax cheat Treasurer picked up right where Bush left off. Fine piece of work.
Posted by: Same Old | August 4, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
–And in the end, when that administration left office, the national debt was doubled and the economy was in virtual free-fall collapse.–
And Obama and his tax cheat Treasurer picked up right where Bush left off. Fine piece of work.
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No, they’re trying to pick up the pieces of the crap left behind and move the country forward.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
No, they’re trying to pick up the pieces of the crap left behind and move the country forward.
I bet.
Posted by: Same Old | August 4, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
That administration also presided over the largest ‘outsourcing’ of American jobs overseas that has ever taken place.
LOL…and where were the vaunted Democrats & Liberals while this was going on? They must been hiding under the table until the pied piper came along!
you see folks, according the gosspil of danita, the dems did not have control of the Congress for those last 2 years of Bush’s administration.
also, danita…
i am sure you, being on top of ALL the facts, are aware that Diana Farrell is the former director of the McKinsey Global Institute, McKinsey & Co.’s economics research arm, and is a notorious proponent of outsourcing and further expanding the job-killing H-1B visa worker program. In fact, she has made millions advising companies to offshore production as a cost-saving measure.
Posted by: Mike_C | August 4, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
This is disturbing to me because I think it’s continued evidence of the bullying tactics this administration is willing to employ. Other evidence of that to me is the President’s interaction over the college professor and police officer incident. I am wonder about more of his appointees to Czar positions as well and their previous ties to community organizations who employed the bullying tactic. We shall see. But it’s becoming more and more clear to me that this administration is trying to force its desires upon every aspect of the nation.
Posted by: Hal | August 4, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
“That administration also presided over the largest ‘outsourcing’ of American jobs overseas that has ever taken place.”
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Sorry, Mike_C . . . President Bush did preside over this and with a Republican congress and senate for much of it.
It’s just the truth.
Surely you’re not blaming this on Obama, like you try to blame everything else?
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Good lord . . . Don’t they know better than to criticize “Dear Leader” and his policies. It’s off to the Glavnoye Upravleniye Lagere (GUAGS) for those traitors.
Posted by: rplat | August 4, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Hello Danita – take an economics course and look at the figures. The only people who are BUYING American products are the countries that have people EMPLOYED. The outsourced jobs were NOT jobs that people wanted here and they have provided revenue for those countries to buy our goods – AND THEY HAVE. Stop talking the Left Dem talk without actually knowing what you are talking about.
And PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE stop with the George Bush did everything mantra. The shoe doesn’t fit my dear.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
But actually all this will change in the future. We can’t even fill our slots in Engineering schools with U.S. students – they aren’t smart enough. So we fill them with foreign students. Our level of education is consistently dropping relative to the other industrialized nations. Now don’t go and say Bush did this because of standardized testing. Actually the TEACHERS UNIONS DID THIS ALL BY THEMSELVES. Their curriculum is full of crap – many foreigners speak English better than most U.S. born and educated students. They can’t write properly. They are constantly told “you must go to college – you must go to college”. They head to college – major in some bozo program and end up with $100,000 of debt and a junk bond diploma. BUT that tuition keeps generations of left wing TENURED professors on life pay check to preach the left’s socialistic party line.
Joe Biden spoke of Russia’s withering economy – he’s about the dumbest knot head’s in Washington. We will see how their economy fairs through this world recession.
It’s not secret but not reported that graduating college students are not finding jobs. But that’s o.k. because the business world has had it’s hands full with the trophy generations. They’ve been told from birth – you are wonderful, everyting you do is great and everybody wins. They have little work ethic, no concept of chain of command and come to work looking like they did when they werr lounging on their sofa at home. Maybe unemployment for 3 or 4 years will shake them up abit.
Posted by: ILona English | August 4, 2009, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
“The outsourced jobs were NOT jobs that people wanted here”
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What crap and nonsense. You’re an apologist for multi-national corporations.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
“BUT that tuition keeps generations of left wing TENURED professors on life pay check to preach the left’s socialistic party line.”
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Again, more nonsense . . . they said the same thing during the Vietnam war about professors – all communists and anti-american. Complete crap.
50,000 dead americans and counting in Vietnam, the nonsense was finally given up.
Stop your ill-conceived and UNSUBSTANTIATED accusations.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
No, they’re trying to pick up the pieces of the crap left behind and move the country forward.
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Exactly. Wow, Danita. You had your hands full here.
As for ILona, with all due respect as I love the personal history you shared and every now and again, you had an interesting point, I think you need a course or two in Economics yourself. Ideology and an interesting personal history does not an econ expert make. Have you ever read Roubini, Krugman, and DeLong– or Keynes– for that matter?
For a good article on the mixed bag that is Cash for Clunkers, check out Time magazine online. There’s a detailed, and balanced look at it. It’s not perfect at all, but it’s not as bad as people have made it out to be. In fact it’s much better. I think I saw a post or two about that here.
Posted by: Alyson | August 4, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Alyson – I have a degree from a top Ivy League business school – what about you. I worked in the financial world for my career and started out working in NYC when Jimmy Carter was President. Remember???19% interest?? There was NO economy. Don’t tell me I don’t know what’s happening in the world. My husband has been in international business for 30 years – and we are ACTIVELY involved internationally. What’s your business? READING ECONOMICS GIVES ONE A BASIS FOR VARIOUS THEORIES – IT ISN’T PRACTICAL BUSINESS KNOWLEDGE. When people espouse Keynesian theory I KNOW they haven’t run a business or owned one. It’s a static form of looking at the economy but the harsh reality is that the economy is dynamic – and moving all the time. And now it’s international which makes it move that much faster and with many more variables.
And Danita as far as Vietnam – my husband was there – were you? And look at the results after we left Vietnam in that region- or don’t you even know? Or care?
Keep blaming everything on Big Business but keep buying those products from the companies you HATE.
Cas for Clunkers was a “hold up”. We take on more debt – so people with crap cars can buy a car from Korea. That’s why the White House won’t release they details – they are cooking the #’s to make it look like a success story. Right now people are at junk yards buying cards for $300 that they then TOW to these car dealers to get the $4500 credit. Resourceful on their part – will it pump the economy. ABSOLUTELY NO.
Keep dreaming that the GOVERNMENT will fix everything – but sooner or later you have to WAKE UP and face reality.
Posted by: ILona English | August 5, 2009, 6:21 am 6:21 am
danita:
You’re living in a dream world.
Unemployment continues unabated after
the “I have to have this now”
stimulus bill was passed 6 months ago.
Our foreign policy is a disaster with
Americans being taken hostage in
N Korea and Iran and the U.S. bowing
and scraping to get them back.
President Obama’s Blah, Blah, Blah
approach has not stopped either
country from pursuing it’s nuclear
program.
The 2010 elections will mark a big
turn around for the Republicans.
Democracy Yes, Socialism NO!
Posted by: reaganfan | August 5, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
And it was just announced that Panasonic will close its facility wher I live and outsource the jobs overseas. That is 90 people in our community that will lose their jobs. So much for hope and change.
Posted by: mj | August 5, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
I KNOW they haven’t run a business or owned one.
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Too funny as I’m a small business owner:) But no worries, the “financial world” bit explains a lot. I get it.
Posted by: Alyson | August 6, 2009, 1:09 am 1:09 am