Today’s Qs for O’s WH – 8/7/2009
I included a question from CNN’s Ed Henry below because I asked a follow up. As always, for more information about what I’m referring to in my questions, check out the links.
TAPPER: The group ProPublica earlier this week analyzed or published the results of a study and analysis of where stimulus funds were going. And they concluded that there was no relationship between a county or area's unemployment rate or poverty rate and stimulus funds. And, in fact, some areas with the exact same unemployment rate, there was a vast disparity in how much of the stimulus funds was going. Is this a problem in terms of…
GIBBS: Which stimulus funds?
TAPPER: Which stimulus — I assume the job-creating, infrastructure funds, not the tax cuts.
GIBBS: I'm not familiar with either the group or the report. I'm happy to take a look at it. Obviously, there are — different money goes to different places based on different formulas. Again, as you heard the president say in the Rose Garden, a third of the money is largely for tax cuts that go to 95 percent of working individuals.
There are — I'd have to take a look at where some of that is. I would underscore again, without having looked at the report, I think the notion that — I think we're all a good example, right? We're in Washington, D.C. I live in the city of Alexandria. Some of you may live in the city of Arlington. Some of you may live in Fairfax County. Some of you may live in Prince George's County. Some of you may live in Montgomery County. Others may live in Baltimore. But — or in the District of Columbia.
To say that money is going to Alexandria — the city of Alexandria, but not helping anybody in the city or county of Arlington, is to somewhat assume that between each of these government subdivisions there's some economic wall that — that doesn't see money going from one to the other.
I think it's entirely possible and very real that if you're building a bridge in Smith County, you could easily hire people from George County to go work in Smith County. I — I — I think there, you know, there's a lot of slicing and dicing that I think doesn't necessarily reflect where individual recovery money may or may not be going and its economic multiplier effect. I will say that if you look at the statistics that we've seen just in the last two Fridays, I think it is clear and obvious that the recovery plan is cushioning the blow in terms of our economic output, it's helping to save and create jobs, and is working as we believe and intended it to work in order to get our economy back on track.
TAPPER: And just one follow-up, to Ben’s*question about the town hall meetings. This week, there's just been an amplification in terms of the rhetoric. Some of the protesters against the president's position on health care reform have used Nazi imagery. A Democratic congressman said that the protesters were using brown shirt tactics. A Democratic senator called protesters' behavior un-American, although she retracted it. Rush Limbaugh went on a very long speech yesterday during his radio show in which he compared Democrats to Nazis, the president to Hitler. And I'm wondering if the president has seen any of this, has a take on it. Obviously, the Nazi imagery has been condemned by Jewish groups, but I'm wondering if — if he feels anything about the language being used this way.
GIBBS: Well, I think he's certainly seen news reports about this. I don't — I don't know whether it's written or cable. I'd make a couple of points. I'd build on what I said to Ben, which is regardless of where we are, regardless of the differences we have on even an issue as important as health care, I — I know the president believes strongly that we can discuss these issues without personally maligning the person that we're discussing this issue with; that we're doing so in a way that respects the dignity of each individual. I — I think — I think anytime you make references to what happened in Germany in the '30s and '40s, I think you're talking about an event that has no equivalent. And I think anytime anyone ventures to compare anything to that, they're on thin ice and it's best not deployed… But again, the — I think the most important thing is we can have a discussion in our democracy about where we want to go and why or why not we want to take certain steps. The president strongly believes we can do so without yelling at each other, without pushing each other, without degrading each other, and do so in a way I think that respects the difference in all of our opinions.
TAPPER: The DNC put out a video earlier this week basically saying all of the protesters were birth certificate-denying, angry mob, hordes. I mean, it wasn't exactly a video that described the protesters in accordance with the respect and dignity you just spoke of.
GIBBS: Well, again, I think we've seen — as you mentioned, we've seen some stuff that I think is — I mentioned it a week ago, I think, or maybe it was earlier this week. It all sort of blurs together. You know, that we've all seen imagery that really just shocks and surprises us. I think the best thing to do is to take that temperature down a bit.
ED HENRY, CNN: Robert, on health care, can you clear up whether or not the White House had some sort of behind-the-scenes deal with PhRMA? I know — I think you were asked about it yesterday. You know, there have been reports saying that the White House has told Democratic senators that there was no such deal, and yet…
GIBBS: Well, we have — there — there is an agreement between PhRMA and the Senate Finance Committee that's supported by the White House to seek savings from the pharmaceutical industry to use to do — to both fill in the doughnut hole for Medicare Part D recipients that exhaust benefits and find themselves on their own, and to use part of the additional money for health insurance reform.
HENRY: But PhRMA is saying on the record that the White House committed privately that you wouldn't seek anything beyond the I think it's $80 billion that's already been agreed to. But others, like Speaker Pelosi, want to squeeze more savings out. And I think it was Wednesday night, Jim Messina sent an e-mail to the New York Times from the White House saying that, in fact, there was a deal with PhRMA and that you wouldn't squeeze it beyond $80 billion.
GIBBS: Well, we feel like $80 billion is — is an appropriate amount. And I think the — I don't have the statistic in front of me, but I think the House bill has $85 billion in it, so I would argue that we're all in the same ball park.
HENRY: But, so, there is a deal that y
ou won't squeeze any more?
GIBBS: Well, I hate to blow our cover here, but we announced it publicly.
HENRY: Right. But there had been some reports saying you privately told Democratic senators that there is no such deal.
GIBBS: I can't — I can't — I don't know where that's coming from. I don't what that's being based on. You know, I think it's — I think the press release is on the Finance Committee's Web site…
TAPPER: Can I just ask a quick follow up? In June you were asked about the deal and whether or not the deal with PhRMA implied that the White House signed off on no other legislation, such as allowing Medicare to renegotiate with PhRMA. And you said you didn't know the answer to that. Was it because you personally didn't know or because the Senate Finance Committee hadn't informed the White House of that aspect of the deal?
GIBBS: You're asking me to recall why I didn't remember something in June. I — I — that I don't know the answer to. Obviously, the agreement that we have is — is in the confines of health insurance reform that's being worked on right now.
*Ben Feller of the Associated Press
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The headline of this story should be:
“Member of the mainstream media finally admits that Obama cut taxes.”
Now, thats news!
Posted by: Flash Override | August 7, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Jake, when Bush was President did you ever ask the press secretary about the Nazi imagery the Democrats were using in their protests?
Jake – do ask why the President is so un-Presidential. Why does he and the Democrats use violent language and terms when directing Democrats to attack people who disagree with Obama?
Headline from Politico: “White House to Democrats: ‘Punch back twice as hard’”
Posted by: sallyj | August 7, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
“The headline of this story should be:
“Member of the mainstream media finally admits that Obama cut taxes.”
Now, thats news!”
HA!
Posted by: Ryan C | August 7, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
If you look at the policies, then it is a fair comparison. Keep in mind the Nazi’s were the National Socialist Party. They also took over many industries, and tried to control every aspect of life. They were PROGRESSIVES to be correct!
Posted by: Alan B | August 7, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Nancy Pelosi said people at Townhall Meetings were carrying swastikas and things like that. Rush responded to her remarks.
As usual, Gibbs is out of the loop or just too dishonest to acknowledge Pelosi’s inappropriate rhetoric.
Posted by: mad | August 7, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
sallyj:”Why does he and the Democrats use violent language”
Perhaps we should get into the language deployed by the Republicans last administration (even, famously, on the floor of Congress by Cheney).
Posted by: jhw539 | August 7, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
jhw, Rahm is legendary for his raw language. The presidebt jokes about it.
Posted by: mad | August 7, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
sallyj has an excellent point. Obama campaigned on bringing a different tone to Washington.
He truly has.
Posted by: mad | August 7, 2009, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
“Nancy Pelosi said people at Townhall Meetings were carrying swastikas and things like that.”
They were.
“Rush responded to her remarks.”
Ahhh so that is why he was so offensive.
Posted by: Ryan C | August 7, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Jake, can all you in the WH press corps maybe sign a petition to have Gibbs replaced? He is truly a horrible spokesman. Or, if a petition is not politically permissible, how about taking up a collection to send him to a good communications school to improve his technique. Northwestern has a fine graduate program for example. I truly feel for you guys in there every day trying to do your jobs while having to listen to Gibbs’ stuttering blather and trying to make sense of it.
Posted by: Competencia | August 7, 2009, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Nancy is lying again.
There is only one picture showing a Swastika and in that case there is a ‘red circle with a slash’ over the Swastika. Which indicates the one person carrying the sign was saying NO to Nazi/Socialist Health Care being rammed down our throats.
That does not even come close to Pelosi’s claim. If you listened to her you would think people attending the meeting were wearing Swastikas as arm-bands or on T-shirts in some sort of attempt to scare/intimidate people.
Time for the TV news media to call Pelosi on her claim and time for some here to stop guzzling the koolaid.
Posted by: Left wing is the new right wing | August 7, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
sallyj:”Why does he and the Democrats use violent language”
Perhaps we should get into the language deployed by the Republicans last administration (even, famously, on the floor of Congress by Cheney).
Posted by: jhw539 | Aug 7, 2009 4:24:59 PM
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Your response would have only been appropriate if the question was “Why does he and the Democrats use violent language when the Republicans and Cheney did not.” You didn’t give a reason why he and the Democrats use violent language. Do you have one?
I think this should actually be “Why does the party of Hope & Change use violent language?”
Posted by: White Noise | August 7, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Gibbs: Jake, these aren’t the facts you’ve been looking for (waves hand over Jake).
Posted by: Obi-Wan Canoli | August 7, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
How do you members of the press put up with this idiot? Don’t you just walk away at the end of the press briefing shaking your heads?
Although I was glad to know in what town/city every last member of the administration lives. That was informative. However, we still don’t know who got the stimulus money.
Posted by: Mary | August 7, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I just love that Rush compared Pelosi and company to Nazis. Liberals don’t know how to handle it. If they say it is horrific and mean spirited to be called Nazi fascists, they look hypocritical, since that’s what they’ve said about Bush and the Republican Party for 8 years!
What goes around comes around.
Posted by: M Boggs | August 7, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
How do you members of the press put up with this idiot? Don’t you just walk away at the end of the press briefing shaking your heads?
Although I was glad to know in what town/city every last member of the administration lives. That was informative. However, we still don’t know who got the stimulus money.
Posted by: Mary | Aug 7, 2009 7:57:27 PM
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Now, now, Mary, Mary. I thought Gibbs was very informative and quite clear. He was telling us that there isn’t any point at all in tracking any of the stimulus money, because it just all sort of oozes across the land, like melting ice cream across hot pavement. Nothing to look at here folks, move along!
Posted by: And Atlas Shrugs Yet Again | August 8, 2009, 5:18 am 5:18 am