White House Disputes Pelosi Contention that Town Hall Protests are “Un-American”

Will be adminstration be handing out the questions? Will he be answering the list of approved questions? His townhalls are a joke, just like his press conferences are a joke.

Hey Terry – no, he didn’t say that. Check the context of the quote (beyond the link provided by Drudge) and you might find he was talking about something else entirely.

Just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Nancy Pelosi is unfit for her position. This is just the latest revelation of her warped views. She should be removed from govt office.

It’s too bad people didn’t become at all excited when the previous Administration lied it’s way into manipulating American’s into supporting the War in Iraq. Just think of what we could do with the over $700 billion (and counting) and the precious lives of our soldiers and the innocent Iraqi’s wasted over there, probably provide lots of healthcare to our citizens. Maybe we should learn a lesson from Bush & Cheney and characterize those disrupting the town hall meetings as “traitors”?

When it’s good enough for Nancy Pelosi, it’s good enough for me. Let her prove its a good paln by writing legislation to convert her retirement and medical care benifits to the same she is attempting to shove down American’s throats and then call them names as they choke on it.

I don’t get it I thought yelling solved everything

It’s just like a democrat. Democrat Steny Hoyer graduated from college in 1963 during the Vietnam War. Did Steny the coward go to Vietnam or serve in the Military. Of course not, now he calls Americans un-american. This coward who decided not to fight for his country has the gall to call other people un-american?

it’s very interesting that the democrats seem fine when their base is shouting down conservative speakers at Universities (as if the left is under-represented in our universities) or anti-war protests cause massive disruption. Also this assertion that these were “organized” is just a big so what. Obama and the dem’s entire MO is organized protest and organized opposition. I’m really trying to take the center approach here but now I feel as though if I have any fears or objections about any part of the heath care plan moving through congress I’m being labeled a “wingnut”. That’s unfortunate.

LATEST QUINNIPIAC POLL – 39 PERCENT APPROVE OF OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE PLANS, 52 PERCENT DO NOT APPROVE OF HIS PLANS.

What happened to ‘government of the people, for the people, by the people’?
Why don’t the politicians listen to the citizens that they are supposed to represent?
Are the Democratic members of congress not supposed to represent everyone, or do they just represent those that agree with them?
What about the Democrats that disagree? Are they Nazis also?
This debacle just proves that our entire government system needs to be overhauled!

Aren’t these the same people who brought us Code Pink and Cindy Sheehan, shouting down organized meetings that they are facilitating? Oh, I’m sorry – I forgot – these are meetings they want to go their way. My bad – I’ll go back to being a “good” American and just shut up and agree with the President.
Victory, Comrade!!

Right, we are a people who solve problems with talk! Talk about Watts, Talk about Vietnam, Talk about Prohibiton & Drugs, Talk about Crime, Talk about Taxes, Talk about Welfare and we’ve been Talking about two Americans for so long. The minute you accept government to run your skin, you can bet the clothing stles will change.

ejr1953 – You can legitimately hate President Bush and/or all of his policies, but I challenge you to find one example of Bush calling antiwar demonstrators traitors or unAmerican or telling them to shut up. If you do any research you will find many instances of him saying what Obama says now (which is the opposite of what Obama said last week or most of the time).
Unlike thin-skinned Obama, Bush always had a self-deprecating joke about those who hated him, he even joked and praised dissent after that Iraqi threw a shoe at him. He would be a good example for Obama to follow if Obama wasn’t so power-hungry or had any humility at all.

SORRY, BUT THIS WHOLE DEBATE IS STUPID. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE FED STARTED ANY PLAN THAT DIDN’T GO THREE TIMES OVER BUDGET? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FIGURING THAT OUT…….. FINALLY!!!

Pelosi seems to forget that thesee un-Americans go by another name. VOTERS

What’s un-American is the White House calling concerned American Citizens mobs. Pelosi deserves the boot, she is a worthless politician who does not represent the wishes of the American people. With the congressional approval rating at an all time low, she certainly has much to do with it. IT is a direct insult upon Americans, many of who may have even voted for him, to call them mobs or saying that their efforts have been orchestrated, what about free speach?? Everyone has a voice. Untimately, time will judge these policians who are trying to pull one over on the American People.

BOB – NOT ANY MORE. ALL OBAMA HAS DONE IS TO “AWAKEN A SLEEPING GIANT!!”

Please. These angry mobs are guilty of nothing but stupidity. They got fed a pack of lies by the insurance companies and the Senators they bought through their “lobbying” efforts and instead of stopping and learning the facts, these morons loose their collective minds and lash out in public. There is no law against stupid in this country.

CLINT – CARE TO DISCUSS “THE LIES” FED TO THE CONSERVATIVE PROTESTERS? NOBODY ELSE SEEMS TO BE DOING THAT!

‘Will be adminstration be handing out the questions? Will he be answering the list of approved questions? His townhalls are a joke, just like his press conferences are a joke.’ -ubu1991
You do realize that the previous admin wouldn’t even let naysayers within earshot of where he held his ‘town halls’, right?

Most people are not comfortable with radical changes and the health care proposal is one. The voters (A/K/A the aforementioned “Un-Americans”) are very apprehensive about the proposal that they do not understand and do not trust Congress or the President on either. This is their life that is at stake and they want to ensure that they still have control over the decisions and are not thrown under the bus by some bureaucrats. The Obama administration has pushed through a lot of legislation in the last six months and none of it has accomplished what it was sold to the American people as. We “Un-Americans” do not trust the Pelosi/Hoyer/Reid group to do what is in our own best interests since they seem to be out of touch with everyday concerns.

Do any of you really understand the Health Care Bill and what it actually says… Has everyone at these town hall meetings read this bill… or are you all just going by what you are hearing out on the streets and in most cases the news… where I have yet to watch a station that has read the bill line for line… people need to get smart, get the bill, read it… get answers for what you don’t understand so we can move on. That includes all walks of life…

Single-payer medicine is top notch
Posted by: groan |
Like Medicare?

Single-payer medicine is top notch
Posted by: groan |
Like Medicare?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn
I have never been on medicare, but I bet you the people who are on it wouldn’t want to see this socialized medicine taken from them. No, the systems I’ve lived under are the UK’s NHS, the S. Korean plan and Australian Medicare. While no plan or system is perfect, it’s much better than having to fight profit oriented insurance companies, or worrying about coverage being dropped (or losing it with your job), or perhaps not being able to have any at all. There were never any lines or inordinate waits for procedures, my gps were kind and caring and my experience were, as I said, top-notch.

I have never been on medicare, but I bet you the people who are on it wouldn’t want to see this socialized medicine taken from them.
Posted by: groan |
As you are a huge fan of socialized medicine are you against the current bill?

Canada has single payer health care. Just recently their system, again, failed to meet the goal of bringing wait times for common procedures DOWN TO EIGHTEEN WEEKS!!! Says a lot about socialized medicine, NO?
Even with our problems, we still have the best health care system in the world. Yes, our longevity rates are behind those of other countries, BUT, THOSE RATES INCLUDE MURDERS, SUICIDES AND ACCIDENTS, for which we are way out in front!!! And Obama wants to trash our current system in order to cover the ten percent who seem to be left behind? The great majority of US citizens like their heath care. TRASHING IT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIX IT IS NOT ONLY STUPID – IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE!!!

I guess to Pelosi real patriotism is snitching on your neighbors—not all neighbors just the ones that disagree with Obama’s agenda.

Obama’s alter ego was out today.
The one that comes out when he wants to appear presidential. He stated that debates were healthy.
The other day in VA the mocking, smug, taunting Obama was there in full force telling critics to shut up and get out of his way.
He must have some intense inner battles going on, trying to decide who should appear. No need for Obama to hide anymore
we know who he really is.

have never been on medicare, but I bet you the people who are on it wouldn’t want to see this socialized medicine taken from them.
Posted by: groan |
As you are a huge fan of socialized medicine are you against the current bill?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn
First of all, there are several bills going through right now and all of these will be changed and merged until we arrive at ‘a’ bill. That said, it depends on what comes out of the process. I prefer single-payer, though a public option could be acceptable as it would drive down cost, and contrary to talking points would not put private insurers out of business (nor would single-payer by the way). If a bill mandates coverage, but does not offer a public option I am fully against it.

No republicans are listed as sponsor or cosponsor of HR 3200. Nine democrats. And the fines for disobedience are obama-directed. AFTER he blasted Hilary Clinton for proposing it during the campaign. Yes, he denies knowing what’s in the bill (while pushing it, doesn’t that sound irresponsible?) but his fingerprints are all over it. As usual, lighting the fuse then running away when the thing explodes…
Posted by: Eyes Open |
The feared ‘death panels’ were actually put forward by republicans, and throughout the bills being passed around there are many, many republican amendments and suggestions.

Manitu
Can you send a link for this? I’d be interested to see what procedures are included as common, and otherwise verify your information.

I am amzed there are none so blind than those that will not see. Medicare isn’t the same as to what the government is proposing now. But this arguement is pointless. They will do what they will do. And when we get it don’t say later I thought…. Just remember this now medicare and medicaid are one of many options. But when there is only one option (Eventually Single Payer) it will run like an HMO it has to costs are costs and it will come down to decisions on those costs.

Don’t believe British single payer works well, it doesn’t.
Plus it’s the 3rd largest employer in the world and HALF the employees are bureaucrats! Talk about inefficiency!

To groan: Are you ready for a vote? Please email Speaker Pelosi and urge her to call for a vote!! Enough flapping of the gums, let’s push it through!! Call for a vote!!

So at Obama’s townhall which Healthcare plan will he be talking about? The one in his HEAD or the one that the radical leftwingers in the House have put on paper?
Obama’s head healthcare plan is tweaking the insurance industry to the demands of the uninsured and reducing costs… No one is against that.
The one on paper is a roadmap to Govt single payer takeover which is what has got the masses riled up.
Seems like Obama scripts from the one in his head maybe he should actually put that one on paper and let congress see it.

Contrary to talk radio, no one is collecting names. What is happening is that the administration is trying to correct mis-characterizations and disinformation. The only people capable of being tracked are those of people who send mail to the site. So, if you don’t want them to have your name, don’t send them anything.
Posted by: groan |
The problem with your reasoning is that anyone can send them my name and the gov’t is required to keep these emails so they would collect my name.

“The problem with your reasoning is that anyone can send them my name and the gov’t is required to keep these emails so they would collect my name.”
ROFLMAO!
Right wing spam emailers beware!

Sick of the Leftist defining the issues in my country, they’re AntiDemocratic and AntiCapitalist, and worst of all, they, as observed would stoop to the bottom of a septic tank if it promoted they’re agenda.
AARP cut a deal w/ the Dems/Obama and it doesn’t help you in the least; Drop your membership!

People have been patient, courteous, polite and gracious for years – only to be stepped on, disrespected and ignored by the politicians who work for the taxpayer.
It’s finally catching up with the progressives. Ignore us, try to push us around or bully us, belittle us and try to cram things down our throats and we’re not going to take it anymore.
After all, we’ve seen “the other side” get their agendas through because they have been loud, discourteous and overbearing. If it works for them, then we’re going to give them some of their own medicine.
If they can’t take it, too bad. We’re silent no more and we won’t be pushed around anymore.

Of course he threw Pelosi and Hoyer under the bus.He may not be the genius that the media says he is but he is enough of a politician to see where this is heading.Every respectable poll is showing that the majority of Americans do not like this bill nor the reckless way it is being shoved down our alimentary tracts.The townhall events are merely the manifestation of very sincere concerns that a vast number of usually quiet citizens have about the future of their healthcare.I think that the Democrat leadership is on the verge of loosing control of the House by making themselves so radioactive that nobody will want to be associated with them at election time.Obama is seeing this happen and is movig accordingly.

“She could call it the ‘House Un- American Activities Committee’.”
ROTFLMAO!! I wish I’d said that.

Jason:”I certainly don’t understand any of this anti-government paranoia.”
Oh, my sides!! Thanks, Jason! I needed a good chuckle! I guess you wouldn’t have made a good patriot. Anti-government “paranoia”, or more appropriately stated as “healthy distrust”, was the seed for the revolution and basis for the Constitution. The Constitution is a limiting document, designed to LIMIT the power of government over the governed. Unfortunately we have strayed much too far from that prinicple.

Wow! That is some diplomacy. Very petty. Very nasty.

First comes the White House Internet Snitch Czar, then comes the House Un-American Activities Committee.

“Anti-government “paranoia”, or more appropriately stated as “healthy distrust”, was the seed for the revolution and basis for the Constitution”
The Founders had legitimate beefs with the Crown.
Right wingers scream about things that are not in existence like death panels and are so insecure they claim they are just like the founders.

the problem isn’t health care reform. The problem is STUPID health care reform. The way the O man has chosen to attack health care ensures continued inflation and poor service. What health care needs is the government out. Let individuals make their own choices and fund their own healthcare via HSA’s.
As long as the government is going to “pay it all” you can be sure, there will never be enough money to pay for it.
And by the way, why do the auto unions care about health care? Weren’t they GIVEN the remains of the auto companies to fund their healthcare?
Or, is the plan to opt them into the plan and let them do what they want with the money the O man paid them off with?

“Contrary to talk radio, no one is collecting names. What is happening is that the administration is trying to correct mis-characterizations and disinformation.”********************************
That is an outright lie. What the administration is doing is intimidating the people that dare to speak out against this abomination (bill). Apparently the constituents are the only ones that have read it and the Congress members are just making stuff up, i.e., lying, like the community organizer in chief is lying. Once the bill is passed, like the stimulus bill was Rahmmed down the throats of Americans, it will be too late to save the nation.

I can’t wait to go in front of the “Death Panel” in a few years, when this takes effect. Will be great knowing a few bureaucrats will decide how important my life is when I need treatment or supplies.
Automobiles, Insurance, what is next on this great agenda to take our freedoms and liberty to choose away that I fought for many years ago. Shame what this generation has done to our country. I was proud to fight for it many years ago, I would not be proud to fight for this train wreck if I were a soldier now.
God Bless America. God Protect America. God Save America. Show us the way.

It’s will be interesting to see if Obama actually lets people who have opposing views in to his “town hall” meeting. It will be a hoot to see how rosy and cheery every one is and how the ask “just the right questions.” What a crock of bull.

Pelosi doesn’t know what the term
“American” means, she is too busy trying to legislate socialism for the good of the “common people who don’t understand the workings of Washington”.
Before long we will only hear what Washington decides is best for us, and there won’t be anothe side. I can’t wait for next elections.

For years conservative speakers have been shouted down by leftist “students” at universities across the country.
Democrats do not know what free speech means.

Plenty of room under Obama’s bus:
Grandmother
Wright
Crowley
Pelosi
Reid
The list goes on and on. Does this man have no shame? What a lightweight. People getting on ya? Throw ‘em under the bus!

Obama vs. Pelosi in UFC 101!!! Watch on pay-per-view!!! Watch Obama get in her face! Watch Pelosi subpeona Obama before the House Committee on Un-American Activities (convening in the Joe McCarthy basement chamber)! Order now!!!

I have never seen such contempt from our elected officials as the Obama administration. These people do not seem to understand that they should be above attacking average citizens. You liberals can say anything you want about the Bush administration but he never stood up in front of the country and attacked the people who protested him. He said it was thier right to do so and never spoke badly of them. He knew better because he had something Democrats don’t have – honor and respect for all Americans.

“Democrats do not know what free speech means.”
Of course they do. They just think it only applies to them.

Pharma deal for 80 billion in savings sounds interesting as that seems to be the patent to generic timeline. The savings would be automatically cost neutral to the pharma industry. In other words, they agreed to cut costs which would have already been reduced by shelf life on the patent to generic evolution.
So what is the pharma deal with the administration buying? SILENCE on healthcare is the price. One lobby protest eliminated.
Pharma and insurance industries are not intertwined, and their profit interests are not shared. Divide and conquer is in effect. This is a nice play politically, and costs pharma nothing. However, what impact on R&D and new drug development, or corporate diversity. Government can have preferred vendor contracts. Single payer/universal healthcare can limit competition, reduce diversity, and devolve the selection of drugs both current and new.
Government and health should consider carefully the impact of regulation vs monopolization which would naturally result from evolving into healthcare distribution and devolution.
Maybe if we had successful government models demontrating both efficiency and economy of resources,citizens would be more supportive of change, but not yet.

I doth protest the health care proposals. Sen Pelosi thinks that is acting un-American. What a silly rabbit.

“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.”—-Hillary Clinton

PELOSI SHOULD REMEMBER THIS……I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE WHO SAY IF YOU DEBATE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, SOMEHOW YOU’RE NOT PATRIOTIC, AND WE SHOULD STAND UP AND SAY….”WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRAION”… DO ANY LIBS OUT THERE KNOW WHO SAID THIS … SCROLL DOWN FOR THE ANSWER….
HILLARY CLINTON

This is for Woody where can I find this info on Obama vs pelosi? I tried to look it up but don’t know exactly where to find it.

Maria, I am part of the Patriotic Mob too!!!

You couldn’t make up the historical irony behind Pelosi/Hoyer’s attack on the unAmerican activities of citizens of the United States of America. What a reversal, when a would-be socialist Administration and its minions call for Americans to inform on(aka “flag”)their fellow citizens. I feel like history is turned upside down, with the new HUAC and the White House looking for snitches to “name names.” You can’t make it up. Can you imagine the questioning? “Sir, are you, or have you ever been a member of the Republican Party?! Answer the question!” I say, Congresswoman, Congressman, have you no shame?
Welcome to the new age, we’ll call it the New Red Scare; we’ll call it Pelosiism.

Vote them out!
I am one of the mob!Formerly called “The vast right wing conspiracy”.

I am sick in tired of Pelosi’s mouth. She is full of hot air and I wish the people of California would wake up and vote her but out when she is up for re-election. I will continue to voice my opinion against this bill. I have read it and it is bone chilling. I can not believe that any of our representatives would put their name on this bill if they have read it. I will be voting out any of my representatives that support this bill.

I guess that to err is human, but to lay it on someone else is cool.
You asked for this America.

Obama won. Everyone in an uproar, are pretty much still upset Obama is President. No intelligent person can sit here and say we don’t need health care reform. Most people are disillusioned by Faux News and the RNC (Rush Newt Chaney) club.

Obama says what he thinks to supposed to some of the time. But what he really thinks comes out when he is angry and frustrated, like when he said to “shut up and get out of the way.” He has a very thin skin and lashes out, though the mainstream media covers up for him most of the time.

I wonder how much longer it will take the blind and deaf MSM to understand that the American people are NOT ‘acting stupidly’ about Obama and this Admin. Don’t they understand that Obama JUST BARELY squeaked by with a win FROM HIS OWN PARTY! He didn’t even have a huge number of Democratic Americans who wanted him for their President (Hillary actually got better numbers, even without the MSM behind her). Obama is not, and never has been, as slobberingly loved by the voters as he has been by the MSM. It’s about time some few journalists have the professionalism to timidly start to report the truth. H/T to Jake

I’m Democrat and I’m stunned. This is not what I signed up for. This administration doesn’t posses any cohesive capability whatsoever. One person says one thing one day; another says something the next and all that’s out the window within 72 hours by both.
Consistency is what wins the day in leadership and this administration is sorely lacking. I like Barack very much and probably always will but his oratory skills did not transfer to performance in the Whitehouse. It seems each Dem representative is traversing totally different ground than the next and it goes the other way around as soon as some gravity grips so traction can be made. Good luck but without me I think.

BoredBaby:”What we need is health INSURANCE reform.”
And that’s all that is being discussed. There is not a single bill that would touch the private providers of health care, and all the fighting is over whether the government should offer a public insurance plan. Welcome to the debate.

The Administration and Congress has gone out of their way to allienate middle class america. While we were busy working, minding our buiness and raising our family, these people have been spending like drunken sailors. They have run the country into the ground with their bright ideas. They have forced the american people to get more involved in the process. It is not enough for us to vote and trust that the crooks in Washington will act in our best interest. They have proven themselves to be dishonest and corrupt to the core. We need to watch these snakes like a hawk and to hold them accountable. They are hell bent for destroying fortunes and siezing private businesses. While they are busy vacationing, and spending the american people are suffering and doing without. Both parties have lost their way and forgotten why they were sent to Washington. They represent all of their constituants, not just the unions and special intersts groups. Shame on them all.

This is just a distraction from the health care bill both Obama and Pelosi want to shove down our throats so they can steal our money out of our own banks accounts.

I think Rush Limbaugh is right.

Geez..you guys still don’t get it. It doesn’t make any difference who’s living on Pennsylvania Ave. If McCain or Clinton had won it would have just been a different shade of lipstick on the same pig.
Bush, the 1st, heralded the beginning of the end when he declared a “New World Order.
Say hello to the Amero, socialized medicine, and the end of the Middle Class. Make sure your kids learn to speak Spanish or, better yet, Cantonese and kiss your country goodbye…

bmcgilvray, The idea of less regulation from Washington is scary. You do realize that the current banking crisis world-wide was due to the lack of regulation?
On the topic of the article, the idea of protesting is very American. But when the protests are organized by groups funded by those who are profitting from our current health system, that isn’t right. That most of the protestors are there because they’ve been lied to about the details of the health care reform is a crying shame. Democracy is all about an informed public making a decision.
The lying should be revealed and reviled by media, loudly and clearly. There is much more at stake than the advertising dollars lost or the political campaign donations from these insurance conglomerates. The health and well-being of all Americans, as well as our economic health depend on passing health care reform, with the public health insurance option.

Us democrats have blown an awesome opportunity, similar to the republicans when they were in power. when will either party begin to listen to what we want and stop listening to special interests? Approval ratings have shown our voice for 3 years, yet nobody listens.

10th amendment to the US constitution -The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.
Many state have State run programs already such as California, Massachusette, North Carolina and others. Therefore this must belong to the states and not the federal government. Hmm this list is very similar to the states that are going bankrupt in our current economy. COINCIDENCE?
Or lets go one lower level. Your family relies on two breadwinners. One of them has lost their job and therefore your income has been substantially decreased. You are losing everything you have worked for. Bills are piling up. They exceed your income substantially (Called a defecit!) So, what do you do? … you lose the cars and the house, the utilities are shut off and you cant pay for groceries ……Is Health insurance your main priority?
I know lets buy twice as many jets too !

Our local (NH) television news is saying that the only people who will be allowed in to see the president are those who registered on the White House website. I am quite sure they will be carefully hand picking the audience. I do know many who will travel to Portsmouth tomorrow to hold up their signs in protest of the healthcare bill.

Obama REALLY needs to do something about Pelosi. She is bad for the party.

Congress elections are like cliques in High School. If you’re in the clique (district) you love what they can do to further your agenda. if out of the clique you are looked at more realistically. Pelosi is hated everywhere but San Francisco. I’m a democrat, but I am not a Pelosi supporter!

Amen americalover, say it loud, say it clear, they can listen as well as they hear. We need listeners, not speech makers.

I’m neither Democrat nor Republican, got tired of both of them. Now I’m just American.

It’s not really a discussion to be had. Obama wants us to beleive that if a “Government Option” becomes available, my employer will not take advantage of it and get me in something worse than a downtown free clinic program.
Also, this will sharply divide the haves and have-nots when it comes to quality of treatment. Of course Obama will keep his Dr.(s)
This will cost a lot of money, not save money. Look at the horrible way the Government has run Madi-Care/Medic-aid whatever name they use for Government supplied treatment.
The only way to save money is… not do the procedures! Oh, but we are all going to start living healthier lives, thus save money. Catch that Diabietes early so you can cut sugar/salt/taste/fat from your lifetime poor diet suddenly.To save money.

Lydia, we’re all being played, you included. It is not the insurance companies. I’ve worked in insurance and health care. It’s all the takers, the heart doctors who pat their buds on the back, it’s health care supplies business, it’s pharmaceuticals, it’s colleges which pushed for two year degrees for jobs that could be trained for in six months…all of those that saw a way to make dough off of medical care, and they are many.

Lydia, you are the one with the wool over your eyes. Even if the death counsel and other ridiculous comments are not true there is one big issue. The government will control what health care you get. It is a fact that they will force you to be on it or face penalties and that is not right.

Does this man think we are total idiots, lying to cover up what Obama has said? Obama said that the ones who caused the problem should sit down and shut up, and he had applause by his supporters for that statement. Obama does not want a vigorous debate as he knows he will lose big time. Those who run from the truth, always want silenced those who are against them.
Where are the postings of all things on the Internet prior to the vote? Where is Obama’s plan which he continues to talk about, which nobody has seen? If Obama wants transperency, it needs to start with him.
And get rid of the Czars. We are not Russian!

The White House didn’t “dispute” anything if you read the column carefully. It said we welcome debate, which they don’t. It said we are open to discussion…which they aren’t. It said we want to answer the questions people have…which they won’t. So that leaves…………dissent and shouting. When the people know they are being fed pablum rather than meat and potatoes, they get angry. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Hey kool-aid man, sometimes the truth hurts. I would find it difficult too, to find out the talking heads had blatantly lied to me about health care reform being a bad idea. The truth is that health care reform and the public insurance option are terrific ideas.
And keeping things the way they are will profit the health insurance companies but will leave Americans paying half their income for insurance in ten years.
Yeah for health care reform and nay for greedy corporations.

DrRob: I’m a Korean immigrant and I just can’t watch MASH. Yeah, it’s funny if you don’t look at the context. I’m grateful for Americans like you. If America did not get involved in the Korean War, I know my family would be stuck in the hell that is North Korea. So I really want to thank you.

Say Yes to health care reform.
Say No to being an Obama/Pelosi kool-aid drinking sheeple.
And let’s take it from there.

“Ever know anyone on Medicare??
These are the WONDERFUL and OUTSTANDING examples of the federal government running healthcare.”
Yes, do look at Medicare. Please. The government run insurance program that provides coverage to all seniors (40% of who used to die without it before Medicare) and has satisfaction ratings higher than any private insurance. Know that talking point about how long you have to wait for a hip replacement in Canada while they are quick and easy in the US? Well, most of those quick and easy hip replacements in the US are paid for by… Medicare.

What is the largest and seemingly the wealthiest lobbyist in Washington.
Insurance companies
or
Pharmaceutical companies
If you guess pharmaceutical companies you guessed right. Just where did they get all that dough to out lobby insurance companies about three times more?

Lets see, if one of you had a great idea about any subject don’t you think you would know all about it? Wouldn’t you know where it would work and what it would cost? Wouldn’t you know where the weaknesses where in the system you were hoping to replace? This man, BHO, has not mentioned ONE specific about healthcare since he has been talking about it! He is no leader. He is a PR man sitting in the Whitehouse.

Who did Obama make a deal with,
Insurance companies
Or
Pharmaceutical companies
If you guessed pharmaceutical companies you guessed right. If you sell out why not go to the highest bidder?

To quote what Pelosi actually said:
“Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American”
Kind of makes the title of this post sound a little stupid, doesn’t it?

Thanks for the logic Flash. Just a little common sense would make such a difference, but unfortunately our dear politicians slam first and think later.

I’m not one of the protesters that you have seen on tv in one of these town hall meetings. However, I am an extremely upset American because of the current run our government is making attempting to push every liberal bill they can thru congress. At current every dollar I earn is taxed approx. 40% thru some type of tax. This coming month my electric bill will be raised 30% to compensate for the yet to be approved cap and trade tax that has been passed thru the House of Reps. When I made my phone call to my House Rep in Florida the reps office didn’t even give my call a second glance. At some point you and me as Americans are going to be taxed additionally to make up for the money dispensed thru the Stimulus bill. The burden that would be laid on the backs of industry thru the cap and trade tax is going to be trickled down to the consumer. Now we are yet again proposing another program that will yet lay another tax on me as an American like the tax Social Security tax. HOW MUCH MORE AM I AS AN AMERICAN SUPPOSED TO TAKE ON IN TAXES? WHEN DOES IT BECOME TO MUCH? I do not have disposable income. I am a business owner and every month I am waiting to pay my bills because those who pay me are always late. My house is 2 months behind on a regular basis when I moved into my house 10 years ago my electric bill was $75 this month it was $320. I am one of many whom are struggling to make it. Where are we as Americans supposed to come up with the money to support your over inflated programs? By the way I’ve been in a locally government Run health clinic for care. I is not what it’s cut out to be.

“”Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American”
Kind of makes the title of this post sound a little stupid, doesn’t it?”
Kind of like claiming that they are “fakes” when they are real people, with real problems, and real concerns, who want to be heard. We aren’t fakes, astroturf or what ever cutesy temr you would like to coin. We are Americans and we do not want Government to run every aspect of our lives.
Big Govenment cannot solve the problem. Big Government IS the Problem. – Ronald Reagan.
He proved it in the early 80′s when Jimmy Carter had ruined things … Welcome back Carter .. Same goals, same mentality same dismal results.
WE remember the late 70′s. We just didn’t want to repeat them again, but Here we go ……

Why is it when I say something offensive to my wife and than later tell her that she heard me wrong… I still get in trouble.
Yet just about daily here lately some politician can say something just awful, than have someone step up and say oh they mean that and I was wrong for hearing it the way I did.
Some how it seems that the media and the politicians think I can’t watch an uncut news clip and determine what is what.

Republicans voted for the TARP Bank Bailout which has been highly successful. Republicans did not vote for the failed Stimulus bill.

I have a suggestion: Why won’t Congress simply make available to American citizens the same coverage they get (courtesy of our tax dollars). It is simply ludicrous and unconscionable that Congress gets excellent insurance benefits, along with access to the very best physicians, while average Americans are forced to choose between going to the doctor or buying groceries! Enough is enough!

Why would there be a need for a Veto when Bush and the GOP controlled both houses? Do you honestly think Reid and Pelosi will send a bill to Obama that he will Veto? These things are pre negotiated.
Beautiful right wing logic. The economic mess started with the *bailout*. And the Republicans, the Congressional majority at the time (or setting new records for filibusters) led by the President with the lowest veto count in a generation, are entirely blameless of course.”

tvaughn6,
I am right there with you. The only difference is I work for a large computer company. I pay my taxes and it is well over 40%. My electric bill was ~$400 this month. I kept my temp above 78 most of the time but it is still much higher than last year at the same time.
Any additional tax and I will be barely breaking even once all the bills are paid. I do not live glamorously and do little things like make my own lunch.
I am very frustrated that our country is in such great amounts of debt with no possible sight in the future of ever being solvent.
On the way home from work I heard that the US bond rating may drop from the prized AAA to a lower rating. All I can say is I do not think that will be good for us.
I want all of us to have the health care we need but not so interested in adding to the incalculable debt we have now. There has to be more cost effective options.
Why cannot the government get us a group rate with Blue Cross and give tax credits to pay the insurance premium. Pass laws to optimize the Insurance business so they treat us better but not break the existing system to create one even worse.
What happens when the insurance companies go out of business. Will that not add even more folks to unemployment.
I am very frustrated with the approach the dems and repubs are taking with something so important to our economy and for us as individuals.

Reply to: Posted by: jhw539 | Aug 10, 2009 11:15:11 PM although you may have gone to bed by now.
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I must respond and by the way, try some research. Although there is more than enough blame that can be spread around, it is not Black/White Yes/No Dem/Rep.
Plus your statement – started with the bailout was under a Democratic congress in 2008.
“Beautiful right wing logic. The economic mess started with the *bailout*. And the Republicans, the Congressional majority at the time…”
Facts, The One Hundred Tenth United States Congress was the meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, between January 3, 2007, and January 3, 2009, during the last two years of the second term of President George W. Bush. It was composed of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The apportionment of seats in the House was based on the 2000 U.S. census.
The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. Although the Democrats held fewer than 50 Senate seats, they had an operational majority because the two independent senators caucused with the Democrats for organizational purposes. No Democratic-held seats had fallen to the Republican Party in the 2006 elections.[2] Democrat Nancy Pelosi became the first woman Speaker of the House.[3] The House also received the first Muslims[4][5] and Buddhists[6] in Congress.
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It has been widely documented regarding the “Community Reinvestment Act or CRA, Pub.L. 95-128, title VIII, 91 Stat. 1147, 12 U.S.C. § 2901 et seq.) is a United States federal law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods”
and the Democratic response to Pres. Bush request for oversite.Legislative changes 1992
Although not part of the CRA, in order to achieve similar aims the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government sponsored enterprises that purchase and securitize mortgages, to devote a percentage of their lending to support affordable housing.[4]
In October 2000, to expand the secondary market for affordable community-based mortgages and to increase liquidity for CRA-eligible loans, Fannie Mae committed to purchase and securitize $2 billion of “MyCommunityMortgage” loans.[46][47] In November 2000 Fannie Mae announced that the Department of Housing and Urban Development (“HUD”) would soon require it to dedicate 50% of its business to low- and moderate-income families.” It stated that since 1997 Fannie Mae had done nearly $7 billion in CRA business with depository institutions, but its goal was $20 billion.[48] In 2001 Fannie Mae announced that it had acquired $10 billion in specially-targeted Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) loans more than one and a half years ahead of schedule, and announced its goal to finance over $500 billion in CRA business by 2010, about one third of loans anticipated to be financed by Fannie Mae during that period.[49]
[edit] Legislative changes 1994
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Mitch von Biljon:”Lets see, the people who caused the economic mess should just shut up and get out the way. That is a fair deal but would mean that obama needs to sit down and shut up as he was one of the morons who supported the bailout ”
Beautiful right wing logic. The economic mess started with the *bailout*. And the Republicans, the Congressional majority at the time (or setting new records for filibusters) led by the President with the lowest veto count in a generation, are entirely blameless of course.
The Republican Party Motto: The buck stops over there, with a Democrat. Probably Clinton (or has that plank been changed to “Probably Obama” now?).
Posted by: jhw539 | Aug 10, 2009 11:15:11 PM

I couldn’t wait for the moron “W” to leave the White House. Now, after a few months of this new clown, I wish W was back.
Sad, isn’t it?

If the Ministry of Love said that Pelosi did not call citizens attending a town hall meeting who had the audacity to try and hold politicians accountable for their actions “un-American”, then she must not have written that op-ed, or certainly we misunderstood it.
Hello people, what has to happen for everybody to wake up from their Prozac induced unconsciousness to understand what is happening here?

I just got home (TODAY) from having a heart bypass and every person i talked to at the hospital i ask what they thought of obamacare and to a person doctor,nurse,tect to the lady that was cleaning the rooms that if it passes they will go to work in another type of job one even when as far to say that if he had to go to work for the goverment he would become a buger flipper 1st

DrRob | Aug 10, 2009 11:53:49 PM
Yes the Democrats had majorities, that is a fact. But you conspicuously neglected to post the facts about how many Bush vetoes and senate Republican filibusters there were in that time.
The Democrats could get little done.
Then we must invoke the Frannie and Freddie bogeymen who although were required to comply with CRA–a program based on rigorous statistical evidence of discrimination in lending–did not initiate the economic collapse. It was a greedy pie eating contest to the death by Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Morgan Stanley after their buddies at the SEC lifted the regulations on leveraging in an already unstable and overinflated market.
Posting a bunch of facts proves nothing.

Obama’s goal…dictatorship…, not socialism, not communism,
Posted by: dule
I wish you guys would finally settle on one of these.. It’s ‘hard work’ keeping track of all the ‘ists’ and ‘isms’
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So was Bush, they are both for corporate communism.

The president and congress do not understand the healthcare bills that are currently floating around. The plan it piecemeal and fill in the blanks later. It is so loaded with legalize language as to be uncomprehensible. Call your representatives and just say NO! One thing everyone understands is that it will bankrupt this economy. Regardless, of the president’s crooked bookeeping…700 thousand discouraged workers that have given up even looking for work were dropped by this administration off the jobless rate to aid Wall Street.

Why do I always have to shower after Obama and Pelosi et al speak? My water bills are going to be through the roof by the time they’re history. And before you all start barking and calling me a fascist Rep or Bushie (that label is getting old folks), I am a lifelong Dem, son and grandson and great grandson of lifelong Dems, and have finally realized that the party I grew up in and have supported since I was 18 and now I am going on 56, does not exist and has been hijacked by what is – yes, let’s all be honest at least with ourselves – a cadre of socialist thugs (Obama and his Tzars) and idiots (Pelosi and almost all of congress on both sides of the aisle). If only this “recess” could last until ever last one of them has been voted out and left the building, then maybe our country could survive at least long enough for my grandchildren to have a chance to try and do a better job. We have screwed things up almost beyond measure and have only ourselves to blame for the pathetic representatives in Washington (and don’t even get me started on Al Freakin’ Franken)…

Why do I always have to shower after Obama and Pelosi et al speak? My water bills are going to be through the roof by the time they’re history. And before you all start barking and calling me a fascist Rep or Bushie (that label is getting old folks), I am a lifelong Dem, son and grandson and great grandson of lifelong Dems, and have finally realized that the party I grew up in and have supported since I was 18 and now I am going on 56, does not exist and has been hijacked by what is – yes, let’s all be honest at least with ourselves – a cadre of socialist thugs (Obama and his Tzars) and idiots (Pelosi and almost all of congress on both sides of the aisle). If only this “recess” could last until ever last one of them has been voted out and left the building, then maybe our country could survive at least long enough for my grandchildren to have a chance to try and do a better job. We have screwed things up almost beyond measure and have only ourselves to blame for the pathetic representatives in Washington (and don’t even get me started on Al Freakin’ Franken)…
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Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger, why do you think I became an independent? Both parties have big stinkers and a bunch of little follow along stinkers.

== REAL HEALTH CARE REFORM ==
(1) If you sell “insurance” to anyone in a given state, you must accept all persons in that state on the same terms and at the same price.
(2) All “insurance” companies must offer a true insurance policy covering only unlikely-but-catastrophic events on the same terms as their “full service” policies.
(3) All health care providers must publish a price list and may not bill or accept payment at anything other than that price; doing so becomes a violation of Robinson-Patman and exposes the provider to civil suit for treble damages.
(4) No event caused by the provision of your treatment may be billed to you.
(5) If you show up without insurance or ability to pay with a life-threatening condition, you will be treated, but the hospital cannot cost-shift the bill – it instead bills The Federal Government, and the Federal Government collects from the individual.

How do I save face as a democrat? I have never voted anything but democrat (43 years old) I hate to say I am now ashamed. My party has shown their true colors

Sorry J-bug didn’t even see this relating to any reply,
Once again, the voice of reason speaks.
There just seems to be a number of alternatives that have not seen the light of day.
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Sorry, Dr.Rob, I’m a little dyslexic and sometimes confuse myself. I’m not against reason at all.

Why isn’t the health care offered the same as the president get? We all (at least us that work) pay for his and the house, and the seat, etc.
It sure seems to me that if the health care was to treat everyone, every person, the same, then there would be no adversary.
But that is not what is being offered is it???????

and don’t even get me started on Al Freakin’ Franken)…
Posted by: Waterlogged
spoken like the good lil ConservoRepub you are…
I know it makes you feel good to assume that I am lying, that I am a Rep in Dem Sheep clothing, cause that makes everything invalid. Sadly, I am a Dem – like you – forced to see the truth about the current leadership of my party and my country. And yes, Al Franken is a beyond a joke, he’s a cartoon. And the Founding Fathers are spinning in the graves at the disgrace and ridicule we – the voters – have brought on this country by electing men and women who have no dignity, brains, or ability to see beyond their own self interests. And that, and my Dem status, is a cold hard fact.

Clinton used the IRS as a tool against those who blaphemed against him. The Republicans went wild. Bush continued building the police state. The Democrats went wild. Obama is completing the police state. Now the Republicans are howling again. How long will it take to realize they are puppets working for the same group of super rich. Vote third party. Preferably the Libertarian party but if not them then the Green or Constitution, or even Ralph Nadar.
If the direction of this government does not change soon I, and other productive people, will leave the USA. Then where will you losers be?

Government sponsered healthcare will be the best thing for us all! Everyone who sets foot in the U.S. will be covered including everyone with chronic illnesses like whiplash and drug addiction. The rich and fat people can pay for it all, we just keep raising them taxes on them and all them businesses. Bosses know that if they employ you full time they have to pay for your health benefits, so they only hire everyone for less than part-time. This way it won’t matter if you are employed or not, you and your kids will always be covered.

The biggest hypocrisy of all is the “read the bill” aspect of this sham protest campaign. From the blatant lies being spewed, it’s kinda obvious that the people behind the protest haven’t read the bill either…
I have read the bill. After you read it, unless ideology blinds you from the truth, you will see that it is bad for this country, bad for its citizens, and is yet one more swipe at the freedom we have in the name of “progressive” policy – i.e. socialism. Hate the corporations, blame them for everything, but remember they don’t have the power of the state to take your freedom and property. This is the slippery slope that this proposed legislation propagates. Read the bill. Read it and weep.

Socialism simply allows government to decide what’s best for people in general. This is a huge advantage for people who have trouble thinking. Since the people elected Obama this is probaby a good thing. When will they pay my mortgage? When will they give me more money? I want more….Feed me…..

‘I am an American conservative’
This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.
I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.
After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.
On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.
After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.
And then I log on to the internet — which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration — and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right.

If everyone contributed freely–true charity–it would not be forced.

Where was “The Won” whenever Code Pink, was disrupting political speech? Funny how the left can disrupt all kinds of meetings and throw pies at Ann Coulter and the MSM & the Dems had nothing to say except that dissent is patriotic. Now those on the right are angry and expressing their dissent and all of a sudden it’s “un-American” and Obama wants them to “get out of the way”. I say HELL no, keep it up! Hypocrite thy name is Democrat

In Nancy Pelosi’s August 10th op-ed in USA Today, she states that “…[H]ealth insurance reform… will allow every American who likes his or her current plan to keep it.”
BS and doubletalk. This is the typical carefully parsed language that Democrats use when trying to sneak something past you.
Sure you can keep your current plan if you like it; see page 16 of the House healthcare bill. But…
–If you want a different private plan: no, you can switch only to Obamacare.
–If your current plan has a change of pricing: you must switch to Obamacare.
–If you lose your coverage for any amount of time, for any reason, and then want to go back on it: no, you must switch to Obamacare.
–If you change jobs: you must switch to Obamacare.
–If you are not in the same plan you had at the beginning of 2009: you must switch to Obamacare.
–If you’re young, still on your parent’s plan, but later get a job: you can enroll only in Obamacare.
–If your current health insurance cannot compete with a government-run option that is taxpayer-subsidized and can operate at a loss for decades at a time: you must switch to Obamacare.
This is why Obama is on record saying that it may take 15 or 20 years before private health insurance is eliminated. But do not be mistaken, that IS the long-term goal.

Also google Mother of all Obama Lies. He is the ultimate hypocrite liar.

Google for it and you’ll find the Health Deform bill. Read it and be ready for an opportunity to challenge your congressman. You can get by by reading just a few sections. You’ll discover the ones to read. Those who argue that government is ‘good’ seem to have a difficult time understanding how those ‘good’ programs seem to always cost more that was originally promised. (Why is America so deeply in debt?) Then, evidently in order to maintain monopolies, government prohibits private competition. One story is that this new plan will save us the out of control cost of medicare. The disease is offered as the cure. Once the government owns the management of health care, private health care will only be available for the newly rich political class. Private enterprise shall become increasingly insignificant, limited through high taxation for ‘the good of the people’.

Sounds like a bogus attempt to justify being greedy and claiming to be a Christian at the same time.
Posted by: Skip
Ah, you’ve deconstructed my argument, you insightful (projecting) postmodernist, you! If we must personalize my objective statement, perhaps I want to determine how my money is charitably used. For instance, I don’t think I have a moral obligation to buy anyone an abortion.
Also, harry, Bob said the crap about the mega insurance companies.

Posted by: Jeremy | Aug 11, 2009 1:16:01 AM
First thanks, and I to did serve in the military back in the early ’70s (no- combat);
However, I am having a hard time trying to reference what your first statement is talking to:
“it’s so disappointing to see Americans say such garbage…..”
Is this posters, politicians,.? But,
the rest of your post was right on. However, given the congressional rules and majorities, that may not be the realities our forefathers thought would ever occur. I read somewhere that their thinking in on the six year limit for Senators was that no farmer or estate owner could afford to be away that long.
As we say now: “Who would have thunk it”.

The left hand doesn’t know what the far left hand is doing.

Well, all of you who want socialized medicine, stay out of Texas. After 163 years we will again be The Republic of Texas.

Would someone inform President Obama about the Fishy information that the Right wing mob is spreading about Pelosi. We should not let these Right Wing conservatives and unamerican mobs get away with planting false news reports. I have heard Fox News say Nancy Pelosi thinks the protestors are “Un-American” but now it seems that everyone is printing this same lie. Shouldn’t the President take steps to censor these lies and control this Fishy information. Maybe he could appoint a Czar to censor all newspapers, radio stations, emails, TV stations and the Internet. That is a pretty big job maybe Obama should appoint a Czar for each type of media and a Czar in charge of finding excuses why his approval rating is dropping.
Would someone give those insurance companies that are bankrolling the protests my address as I have been protesting for a long time and have not gotten my check yet.
Why are the advertisment on television that promote a Government Universal Health Care Plan paid for by drug companies ?

By what authority in our Constitution does the government enter into a non-government activity like health care? Just asking.

Sure, conservatives may raise their voices at meetings…but the left has sent in union thugs to break people’s heads. You have no moral leg on which to stand. And you’re gonna stand there & call us “un-American”. Why don’t you smell what you’re shoveling.

Did the WH dispute Pelosi’s & Reid’s contention before or after Obama told us we need to shut up and to get out of the way so he could clean up our mess? I don’t know who’s more pompous..

I’ve read the bill as well and the scary part is that the “COMMISIONER” will decide what needs to be adjusted in the portions that will later be “revised”. God help us all!

How insane they have become, just give them a office they really think a ordinary college graduate has become a highly educated individual, you are so wrong. You are nothing as you are treating these people so poorly and you shall be treated like wise. Nancy Pelosi is an idiot and will remain so .

The White House disputes nothing because it was the White House that said to hit back twice as hard against anyone and everyone who has the gall to disagree with Obamacare. Actually, Obamacontrol is a much better definition of this travesty.

Excuse me for interrupting this paid insurance comment section… But didn’t the majority of Americans vote for “Obamacare”?
On a side note I do agree with Nick’s comment that Texas should seced from the Union. This would make every True American proud.

What a joke. I notice liberal democrats never seem to have a problem when conservative speakers are routinely shouted down and/or assaulted at college campuses around the country. Pelosi is an anchor around the democratic parties neck.

To Kentuckyfired–The majority did vote for Obama, but they did NOT vote for Obamacare. If you remember he never said what would be in an Obamacare bill, except perhaps that there would be no mandates (like Hillary’s plan) and he was not going to raise taxes one dime on the middleclass. Is it the rich that depend most on Medicare or the middleclass seniors? His plan is going to take $500 billion dollars/1/2 a trillion from Medicare (to pay for Americans without insurance and those in our country illegally). What will that do to seniors medical treatment? No, people did not vote for Obamacare they voted for health care reform. One item was being able to negotiate with drug companies for better prices. Obama tossed that ability out the window when he made a secret $80 billion agreement with them. No negotiating with drug companies and no ability to cross state lines to get better prices.

Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank,
Chris Dodd,Tim Geithner, How much more incompetence needs to be seen?

Shouting and drowning out other speakers? You mean the same tactics used and promoted by the leftists since the days of Vietnam? The same tactics used to shout down conservatives at public gatherings? Or the tactics used by liberal talkshow guests who keep prattling along on their talking points but won’t answer the host’s questions until he completes his DNC-approved spin points?

Note to self must edit comments for errors, good thing I am not talking on education reform. Imagine the mistakes they might find if they read the bills before they posted.

The White House said what? If I remember correctly they were the ones, dear leader himself, telling us to shut up? And the same group that is sending out the SEIU goons and now the AFL/CIO will be unleashed on us, as I heard the head of that goon squad bark his marching orders on the air yesterday on WJR in Detroit.
When will the UAW thugs at Government Motors get their marching orders to attack us “un-American” types?
Speaking of which, when it is time to buy a new car, I think I will throw my hard earned American dollars at some Japanese or German car company. Screw these thugs in the unions and their products too.

It’s about control, not health care. Once Obama the FreakShow takes over, loss of freedom takes precedence. Democrats flipflop all over the place but disagree with them and you are un-American. Wait until Pelosi’s Botox wears off, you’ll see ugly personified. Dems own the viciousness concession in Washington. How Amnericans can support this band of thugs is beyond the pale. People willing to trade freedom for perceived security are to blame. We are rapidly becoming irrelevant here and in the world. We are a stupid country now.

So what has the White House told supporters to do when you run across those who spread “disinformation” about the new attempt by the Obama administration to install the anti-competitive practices of a “public option” into a federalized universal health care initiative?
Report them.
Whether its communicated through e-mail, web sites, blogs, or even casual conversation the executive branch of the federal government is asking you to make them aware of this “disinformation” because they can’t keep track of all of the dissenters themselves.
From Tuesday’s White House blog entry:
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain e-mails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an e-mail or see something on the Web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to
Pardon me for asking such an obvious question, but what concern is it to the president or his administration if private citizens have disagreements, discussions, and dissections of his proposed take over of the health care industry?
Last I checked I had the constitutional right to do so.
But now he wishes to turn one citizen against another?
At dozens of the town hall meetings taking place back in individual districts this month, numbers of reports have surfaced that ACORN members have taken to publicly berating normal citizens who are simply there to ask the questions they have about the viability of a plan that requires the government to spend an additional $1,000,000,000 dollars. They wonder this especially when 85% of people in America are satisfied and content with the health insurance system they’ve already chosen to engage.
So what’s the answer to good old fashioned grass roots voters actually being engaged with their representatives in Congress while they’re home during the August break?
The White House believes it’s best to intimidate and silence, or at the bare minimum — report.
The mistake this White House continues to make, seemingly on a daily basis, is that they reveal very much what they truly think of freedoms of the American political process.
Being generous, we can conclude it’s not a very high opinion.
When President George W. Bush was being stalked by Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink on a daily basis, over a genuine issue of national security — the War on Terror — he met with Sheehan, acknowledged her pain, and wished her well, all while respectfully disagreeing with her over the policy.
By contrast, when more than 2,800 tea parties took place on April 15 and more than 1.5 million people turned out, President Obama showed these folks the back of his hand and insisted on marginalizing those who sought his attention on a fundamental issue of his job performance.
And now he’s asking you to report those who disagree with him to his newly crafted e-mail address.
There could likely be many good reasons for the White House to set up an e-mail address — Like reporting a suspicious truck parked in a place it’s not supposed to be. Or the systematic movement of people that seek to attack the nation. Or even a suspicious piece of baggage that should not be left unaccompanied.
But reporting your neighbors for simply disagreeing on the unknown outcomes of a federally controlled, centralized universal governmental control of health care is not an acceptable use of such an effort.
Perhaps it would be different if we felt the administration was dealing with us honestly. At this point, they’ve all but admitted that they will have to raise taxes on the middle class. That cheery news, coupled with catching significant personalities on video–i.e. Barney Frank, Jan Schikowski, and President Obama — all opining about their desire for a new “public option” to lead to a single payer system, gives the nation pause and little confidence to think that what the president says at prime time press conferences is genuine.
So what should our response be?
Greater demands for free speech…
Louder volumes at town hall meetings…
Bigger belligerence the tighter they squeeze…
In short, when free speech is threatened, screeching screams of volition are the only thing preventing the mandated, manhandled, choke-hold of silence.

Polls for Obama programs are dropping like a rock. FINALLY, many of those who voted for his “Change” are seeing that he smoked-screened his true meaning…Change everything including the Constitution! And, do it at warp speed before the people catch on. He and his minions have done nothing but attempt to drive a wedge between the American people and nationalize everything. Just wait until we find out where all the so-called stimulus money has gone! It certainly has not gone to help small-businesses which is the place it has to go if we are to recover…that’s where the jobs are! It is especially nice to see the Independents opening up their eyes…Also, some Demos…no hope for other Demos. They have already been sent and have received the strong delusion to believe the lie. Like Pharoah. The theme is control the people, not help the people. A new nation OF the government, BY the government and, FOR the government…and, certainly, not under God. Tough times ahead but, history is full of such..they come and they go..but, the story is already written and the outcome is already set and unchangeable by anyone…Read about it…you will find how it ends in the Bible.

Ironically, the only organizations which have been proven as having organized and sent plants to these events have been the Service Employees Union and MoveOn. Please, will the liberals please stop whining. It’s over. Socialized medicine, like that inane cap and trade energy bill is dead. You wanted too much in one grab. Americans aren’t willing yet to pay for everyone elses viagra, anxiety pills, and abortions. The honeymoon with Barack is over. I think it’s time for us to actually “move on.” without the org.

These ‘representatives’ are not listening, that’s why the people are so frustrated they feel they have to ‘scream over another person’ just to get a chance at being heard. Like it or not Washington, the people are awake and they are paying attention. Your game is over, time to start following the rules of the game the rest of us have to play. This is as real as it’s ever been so you’d better start listening.

“Contrary to talk radio, no one is collecting names. What is happening is that the administration is trying to correct mis-characterizations and disinformation.”********************************
That is an outright lie. What the administration is doing is intimidating the people that dare to speak out against this abomination (bill). Apparently the constituents are the only ones that have read it and the Congress members are just making stuff up, i.e., lying, like the community organizer in chief is lying. Once the bill is passed, like the stimulus bill was Rahmmed down the throats of Americans, it will be too late to save the nation.

some clod said:…”Excuse me for interrupting this paid insurance comment section… But didn’t the majority of Americans vote for “Obamacare”?”
The answer to your question is NO! People voted for Obama because he is black. Guess what they got? A Marxist white hating racist hell bent on destroying America.

Why is it that everytime Pelosi opens her mouth she inserts her foot?

Obama is learning that people didn’t want him as much as they didn’t want McCain. He didn’t win because who he was but who he wasn’t. He wasn’t McCain or Bush.
In 2008 the Democrats would have won if they ran a coat hanging. And judging by the way Obama speaks without a teleprompter, they did.

Can someone please tell me which Clause(s) of the Constitution authorize the US Federal government to provide or fund either health care or health insurance.
I just can’t seem to find it in my copy.
Posted by: Public | Aug 11, 2009 6:33:09 AM
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No clause explicitly provides for such authority. But the Dems would look to the Commerce Clause for the implicit authority.

reprint:
Just be sure to report your neighbors discussing these ObamaCare facts to per “Big brother” Obama ( nothing more than grass roots censorship and damage control ).
instructions at:
Page 22 Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure. Punitive.
Page 29 lines 4-16 Admits your health care will be rationed.
Page 30 A government economy will decide what treatments and benefits you get, and unlike an insurer, there
is no appeals process
Page 58 Every person will be issued a national ID health card
Page 59 lines 21-24 The federal government will have direct real-time access to all individual bank accounts
for electronic funds transfer.
Page 239 Line 14-24 The bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid, meaning there will be Medicaid cuts.
Page 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment. Government dictates
how your life ends.
Page 429 Lines 10-12, 13-25 Advanced care planning consult will be used to dictate treatment as patients’
health deteriorates. This can include an order for end-of-life plans. The order will be from the government.

‘Change you can believe in’.
I never believed a whit of it. I watched half of my fellow Americans drink Koolaid and get drunk on the idea that now they have the power to make everyone else in the country walk in lockstep behind them. Like this was ushering in some new age of enlightenment when it was only a mass halluncination.
Here’s a newsflash: Two people can listen to the same story and have different reactions. One ends up feeling romantic, the other is repelled.
This country was founded on the idea that man should be the captain of his own ship, the master of his own fate and is free to do so.
I don’t want your free cheese because I’m supposed to make/buy my own cheese. And that cheese isn’t free because you will take my tax dollars literally out of my family budget and then give it back to me as the cheese you want to give me. What if what I really need is bread? Or perhaps for you to leave me alone?
But it was never about people like me. It was about the cheese addicts. The government has never created income, it’s not a business. It can only take money from people and give it back. It was never meant to be Big Brother or your mother. It was meant to provide safety and infrastructure, not provide for you from cradle to grave. Thatcher’s paraphrased words of some day running out of other people’s money is definitely correct. There isn’t enough money in the world to pay for someone else’s good idea. We haven’t paid for the ideas of the past, think that there is some money tree where we’re going to be able to pay for the good ideas of the present or the future?
If suddenly for one shining moment, we were left with the money that literally came from our paychecks, free to do with it what we choose, what would happen to our economy? It would boom like no other economy on the planet.
But that is now a fantasy. We are currently so badly now in debt that having a ‘debate’ as to how we’re going to pay for the healthcare of 300 million people is like your average middle class person being threatened with foreclosure, 100k in debt,and unemployed, having an argument as to whether or not they’re going to the Four Seasons for dinner. Are you kidding? We can’t afford Kraft Mac n’ Cheese. Why? THERE IS NO MONEY.
We’re in debt up to our wazoo. The government has grown to parasitic proportions and the dreamy eyed half of the country asks, ‘what else can the country do for me? I want a pony! while those who go to tea parties say ‘stop the insanity, I want to be able to still feed my kids’.
There is no more money. You do the country no favours to increase the debt. You do the country no favours when you put your own children into debt. You aren’t helping, you’re hurting us so badly that I’m seriously wondering if I’ll see a recovery in my lifetime.
That is why I stood with a sign. For you, me, my kids, your kids, our grandchildren. You can call me unamerican, and I’ll laugh and look you dead in the eye and mock your ‘patriotism’ that is merely political fashion. You wave a flag when it’s convenient. But you don’t choke up when it goes by and no one is looking. You aren’t moved by our founding fathers and the sacrifice of millions throughout history. Instead, it’s theatre.
Now the White House can spin all it wants and it’s obvious what it’s doing. I do not for one minute think that suddenly Obama and his adminstration care at all what the other half of the country thinks. They’re just trying to calm the waters. Pelosi and Reid said what they really wanted to say, but have to temper in order to keep peace.
This is about ramrodding legislation before the poll numbers turn. This is about getting through as much as possible and get those governmental wheels turning so that it will be impossible to turn them back. It’s about making the country into it’s own image. It’s about power and control. Who’s in charge and who gets the decide how the rest of us live our lives.
What it was never about was the allowing people the dignity to live the lives of their own choosing. It’s about robbing those who have their backs turned. It’s about serving an agenda.
The OA is aware that they’ve awakened a sleeping giant. When you can get elderly people to stand in a town hall with a picket sign, you’ve stepped in it. When you get people who’ve never held a sign in their lives, to come to a meeting unhappy, angry and saying hell no, you’ve stepped in it. You can call them astroturfers, but they know who they are. They’re not paid goons, they’re grassroots citizens, they’re unhappy and they’re not going away.
It’s not just too much, too soon, it’s about literally overstepping the boundaries of what you can and cannot get involved with when it comes to the life of another. You do not stand between a person and their doctor and say ‘I know what is best for you’. Thank you, but get the hell out of my way. It’s not your place, you need to mind your own business. You need to butt out of my life and go tend to your own.
If the OA was truly interested in providing healthcare for the supposed 47 million people without it, they coudl have just added those people to the Medicare rolls and it would be done. No, instead, they want to revamp the healthcare of the entire country.
It’s about control and power. It’s not about anything else. The rest is spin.
Congress needs to have the people rip the check book from their hands and tell them that their job is to do the hard work of making themselves irrelevant instead of being pathologically narcissistic, thinking that they hold the answers to our lives.
Their first order of business shouldn’t be universal healthcare. It should be to sit down and come up with a budget that is sane. That is certainly a big enough job for them to do, and considering that they’re failing at that, they shouldn’t be coming up with new programs that will just suck more money into the system, and that will end up leaving millions with a poorer quality of life.
In one of the video clips of someone’s ttown hall, someone whiningly said ‘they’ve worked so hard on this’ and I laughed. Hard work? Hard work is dealing with the outcome of those policies. If you’ve got cream of the crop healthcare, a cushy office, a bunch of minions to serve your whims, a work life that consists of meetings, cocktail parties and junkets, your life isn’t hard.
Or is it just hard when you come back home in August, only to face the unhappy faces of your constiuents who are telling you that you stink? If they had a conscience, it should be hard just looking into a mirror.
C

THE 2010 ELECTION HAS BEGUN.
We don’t WANT representatives who don’t represent their constituents.
HOLD YOUR OWN TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN LOCAL SCHOOLS!
INVITE CONSERVATIVES, INDEPENDENTS, PLUMBERS, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO RUN AGAINT YOUR INCUMBENT.
CARD CHECK at the door to keep out UNION THUGS.
THIS IS A SERIOUS SUGGESTION. THINK ABOUT IT.
We citizens can pick OUR OWN candidates.
We can’t do worse than OBAMA, PELOSI, SCHUMER, DODD, FRANKS, REID, HOYER, LEAHEY, ETC.
SCREW THE DNC AND RNC.
SAVE OUR COUNTRY.

This administration is 100% responsible for this mess. He used his Chicago Thugs in the White House and the willing press who are incapable of poising real questions and demanding at staged press conferences to spread hate and division. Gibbs has used the podium for days to belittle the public and inflame the situation. The President himself has called in Union Thugs and ACORN to “punch back twice as hard.”
His words don’t matter at this point. You cannot community aggitate and then pretend to be the calming voice. He did the exact same thing with the AIG bonuses; his stupidly comments concerning the Cambridge police and now this. DOES ANYONE SEE A PATTERN? HELLO, this guy is a professional aggitator!

oh and don’t forget, we’re going to ‘push back twice as hard’. That really encourages civilized debate.

I never dreamed I’d live to see the day when my President would vilify ME, a law-abiding, productive member of the country he swore to uphold with a hand on the Bible. And why does he vilify me? Simply because I disagree with him on a domestic policy that will define HIS presidency, but that most Americans oppose strongly.
Last Friday was the last straw for me. I will never again–not in my whole livin’ life–vote for a Democrat. Never, ever again. Thank God I did not vote for Obama…and now he has sealed the deal for a lifetime.
May the Progressive movement hobble itself with its own rage and hatred. May it go to the graveyard of ill-fated ideas. May the damage it has done my beautiful country be healed quickly.

People voted for Obama because he is black.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell
the epitome of the new republican ‘thinking’..
and you wonder why you lost last fall….
I’ll need to see your birth certificate before you are sent to a FEMA re-education camp where your fate will be decided by Justice Sotomayor, who will be in charge of the ‘Death Panel’.

The Libs have a massive majority in the House; a FILIBUSTER-proof majority in the Senate; and an adoring, worshipful, leg-tingling media at their disposal.
The Republicans CANNOT STOP anything. The Dems can pass any bill they want….if only they would unite. Blame those villainous, immoral Blue Dogs–who worry about getting re-elected in red districts/states.

ABC News is now spinning that somehow Obama is not UnAmerican. How low you have sunk.
The morality of Liberty has been replaced by the immorality of Force & Sacrifice. Read it and weep at

What this administration keeps forgetting is that they are representatives of THE PEOPLE. As Mark Twain said, “The government is merely a servant — merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn’t. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.”

HEY Patriotic Vet!! Ever notice how “the people” are less free since The Patriot Act?? Don’t you just hate that?? It sucks that our freedom has diminished over the LAST 3 DECADES.

All these posts are republican set up against Obama and his administration. The rep think they own this country. no and never. this country is ours. it belongs to all

Jake
When are you (because you’re about it for a real newsman any more) going to ask how it is Obama made a closed door deal with pharceuticals so tat they would lobby for health reform?
Obama flat out promised to conduct these negotiations on C-SPAN.
It is simply another Obama lie, but good grief, when it anyone going to call him on it?

“Ever notice how “the people” are less free since The Patriot Act?? Don’t you just hate that??”
What on Earth are you talking about? We’re less free not because of the Patriot Act (why haven’t Democrats reversed it?) but because Obama has an enemies list.

Go to the Douglas Dispatch (AZ newspaper) homepage. There is an article about the “Congress on Your Corner” meeting with Rep. Giffords but no mention of a gun or police being called. Read for yourself.

so drjohn whats your point? It seems you are boxing aimlessly. why?

Is this the same President who claims he does not react to the 24 hour news cycle? Seems to me that’s all he does.

Obama, Pelosi, and Hoyer should be removed from office.

Mike_c, you put in words exactly how I feel about this situation. Sometimes I have a hard time expressing how I feel adequately. You hit the nail on the head. Everyone should have the right to express themselves about how they feel on this healthcare bill. As you said, almost half the voters voted for MCCain.
I was one of them. When Obama won, I said to myself, let’s give him a chance to see what he does. Unfortunately, he is doing what his opponants said he would do as far as socializing this country. The majority of people are against his healthcare proposal. They want to keep their healcare plans they have now. Yes it is true there is room for improvement, but don’t throw out the baby with the bath water which is what the government is trying to do.

Obama is thinking well of our country. healthcare overhaul is most necessary. Critics are just trying to pull the president to a fall

New from Rasmussen. Uh-oh, a lot more fishy business to report to the White House office on un-American activities.
—Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That’s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that OPPOSITION TO THE PLAN HAS INCREASED TO 53%, up nine points since late June.
More significantly, 44% OF VOTERS STRONGLY OPPOSE THE HEALTH CARE REFORM EFFORT versus 26% who strongly favor it. Intensity has been stronger among opponents of the plan since the debate began.—

“Reduce cost – What is your solution?
Guarantee choice – What is your solution?
Ensure quality care for all – How can this be done?”
These three are incompatible.
Completely incompatible. This is what you need to accept. Obamacare means STRICT rationing or the costs go astronomical.
90% of Americans are happy with their care.

Who would’ve thunk the Dems would self-destruct to the degree they have? I thought they would be bad, but they have exceeded expectations.
Pass the popcorn.

“Obama is a leader”
Obama is a pretty-boy figurehead who talks out both sides of His mouth.

JV, as soon as I read a post that says “Bush lied”, I stop reading. I already know that the writer is a fringe left-wing radical. There is absolutely no evidence that Bush lied about anything. Your post talked about a 9/11 connection to Iraq. Bush or his administration NEVER made this connection. The only place it can be found is on these lefty propaganda sources. The lie here, comes from the left. You also seem to think that Bush, who most of you wackos think was a moron, was smart enough to know that Saddam had gotten rid of his WMD’s, while the rest of the world, including the US congress, thought he still had them. Whatever you followed up with has no credibility because of your leadoff statement.

The solution is easy.
STOP PAYING FEDERAL TAXES.
Starve the beast and it will die.
Spending like there is no tomorrow, printing more fiat money – debt notes to the point everyone knows we cannot repay debt (Not every one, there are some who thinks we do not have to repay debt because someone else will pay their debt.) and giving away wealth made by others….that is a socialist agenda.
I stopped paying taxes in 1999. No more money from Jack to inept, lazy, leaches, scum, war, foreign aid and other programs I did not contracted. No more money to unrepresenting representatives.
I wonder how long will our creditors continue buying our debt. Do not forget, we are bankrupted long time ago.

“Is this the same President who claims he does not react to the 24 hour news cycle? Seems to me that’s all he does.”
That’s what figureheads are for.

Posted by: JV | Aug 11, 2009 11:21:46 AM
People don’t need a God.
They have Obama, right?

They should be impeached.

Grade your congressional representative, or anyone else’s at GradeGov.com which is a non-partisan way to express your vote and your comments to the representative and all to see, along with the reason for your grade from A to F.

“Republicans want Obama to fail because Bush failed.”
You have a funny sense of what failure is. Bush was elected TWICE. As far as I’m concerned is biggest mistakes Bush made was acting too much like a Democrat; spending too much and signing the TARP bill into law. He should have vetoed it.

Someone below posted: HEY Patriotic Vet!! Ever notice how “the people” are less free since The Patriot Act?? Don’t you just hate that??
Hum…I agree with you about the Patriot Act, but unfortunately President Obama doesn’t. He has steadfastly REFUSED to consider reversing it.
By the way, I have always been a registered Independent. I am sickened by the insanity of BOTH parties, and wish more would see it that way, instead of casting all this crap into a democrat vs. republican debate. The trouble is, BOTH major parties are corrupt, and have been for a long, long time.

disagree with Pelosi’s statement. The protesters are not Un-American. But, at the same time, their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt.
The Founding Fathers created a Republic, rather than a direct democracy. They knew that, in the short term, really stupid ideas can inflame the public imagination… and that good government should not be dependent on the passions of the mob.
If our reps had to carry water for the vocal minority who believes that “Obama wants to kill your grandma”… healthcare would only be the beginning of our problems. We’d be passing “Birther” resolutions, invading Iran, and teaching flat earth astrophysics in our universities… there is no telling where it would end.
Thank God there is a cushion between the capricious whims of the mob and the rule of law.
Posted by: gobot | Aug 11, 2009 12:22:33 PM
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Touche! So goes it for massive government take-over as well. If you want to preach about what this country was founded on then do so 100% not just what suits your political proaganda.
The Forefathers and ancestors of this country left Europe to get out from under complete government control, to practice their religion without fear of persecution.
Now, it appears the reluctantly and bit-by-bit this country is returning to the Eurpean style of government control.
A government whom believes it can impose all types of laws and regulations on states when it specifically states in the constitution they cannot.
Hence the 10th amendment and why you see 30+ states gettin ready to either vote on or pass bills to invoke this right.
The government is getting too big for its britches. Firs the banks, then the auto industry now health care.

It’s amazing how anyone could believe in a “Messiah” who was spawned in the hog trough swill of the corrupt Chicago Democrat Machine with Ayers, Farrakhan, Wright, Democratic Socialists (Marxists), ACORN, and too many other anti-Americans to mention as his PARTNERS in politics and community agitation.

KR you should explain it to your fellow right wingers who apparently only know history as taught by Rush Limbaugh.
Maybe you can work in an attack on the ADL.

“A prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.” – Declaration of Independence

If Pelosi had a moral character, she will resign.
She does not.
We deserve her.

“Stop living in the past. Why not deal with the ins and outs of health care reform?”
Sorry right wing revisionism of the Bush years should not go unchallenged.

hey are we all that stupid .its like my dad used to say if it was a door it would of smacked us in the face. Its right in front of your face people , this man and his stooges are trying to do what reagan was warning us about when he was young in office ,socialist would one day come , and we have to fight with all of our un-american minds

Obama has already lost the trust of the majority of USA citizens this is trust he will never be able to recoup, He can do all the struttin around he wants at town hall listening to himself talk and making jokes about the concerns of citizens that oppose his agenada’s.He is very tranparent to a large voting block these people have long memories and do not forget when it comes around to voting time.

Pelosi will be the new presidient of USM.

–Stop living in the past. Why not deal with the ins and outs of health care reform?–
That’s too hard.

Single payer?
Medicare for all?
Off the table?
Just like Impeachment was…

It’s an unaffordable, fiscally unsustainable attempt at a power grab…it’ll lead to rationing and more people chasing less care…as for research I spent a month in Europe including *research* on Euro-style healthcare. They’ve been conditioned to sit back and take what they can get. I worked for a big hospital for six years and worked with terminal and critically ill people putting my in time in the trenches. My girlfriends Dad is doctor. He rails at what lawyers do to hurt doctors and patients and how much it cost him to defend himself. I know what I’m talking about. The Democrat party is totally out-of-control. This healthcare bill is just the latest high cost attempt to transfer power to Democrat cronies on Wall Street and on K street. Enough is enough.

Two things folks first Obama wants to push everything through Congress because he can and knows from it’s last six month spending spree he will never have the chance again…fear tactics.(ex. I need the bill now!! signs it four days later.)Second someone needs to find help for Pelosi ever look at her eyes and smile ? She is a good candidate for a psych exam.

deserve peloosi? no we do not deserve . enjoy her if you can …..if you can’t .time to take your country back

Some are now accusing democratic Senators of upsurting without authority which is a criminal offence. What do you all think? I’am researching for more information.