By Caitlin Taylor

Aug 11, 2009 10:41am

White House Objects to “School Lunch” Advocates’ Poster Mentioning Obama Daughters

On August 4, two White House lawyers contacted Dr. Neal Barnard, president of the nonprofit Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) and, he says, asked him to take down 14 posters his organization posted at Washington's Union Station. "We've been very clear I think from even before the administration started that their two girls would have a very private life, and we want to protect that private life and their privacy," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said this morning when asked about the PCRM posters. "And we hope that others will be respectful, as many in the media have been, about not using the girls as a publicity stunt." The ads feature 8-year-old Jasmine Messiah of Miami-Dade public schools thinking: "President Obama's daughters get healthy school lunches. Why don't I?" "What are you talking about, 'Take down these ads?!'" Barnard says he thought at the time. He consulted a first amendment attorney who said the White House has no leg to stand on. "They're good people," Barnard said of White House associate counsel Karen Dunn and deputy associate Counsel Ian Bassin, who called him and asked his group to take down the ads because they mention the Obama daughters, as first reported by the Washington Post. "It's standard operating procedure for handlers at the White House" to call whenever the Obama daughters are mentioned, Barnard said. "They want to be overprotective." But Barnard suggests that President Obama would support his group's mission behind the ads: to encourage Congress to mandate in the Child Nutrition Act that public school cafeteria's offer a vegetarian non-dairy option with lower fat content. "Every meal right now is really meaty and cheesy," he says. Offering healthy alternatives fits right in with the President's health care reform push, and the emphasis on preventive care. "If we can bail out banks and offer cash for clunkers, certainly we can take steps to ensure our kids have options to high cholersterol meals," he said. "The contrast is not with the daughters," Barnard says of the controversial poster, pointing out that Sasha and Malia's names and pictures are not in the ad. "The contrast is with the school the president's daughters are able to patronize. Sidwell Friends is able to offer health nutritious meal options." Veggie burgers are offered alongside hamburgers, vegetarian chili is served next to meat chili with higher cholesterol, he says. "Go a mile away to any school in the district" and what options are there to a bologna-and-cheese sandwich? he asks. "What's left? Nothing. Nothing at all." Jasmine Messiah first came to Barnard's attention at an event on Capitol Hill which she attended with her mother, Sarah Messiah, a scientist at the University of Miami. She asked to speak at the event about the lack of nutritious options available to her at her Florida public school. Messiah has since written a letter to the First Tweens, writing, "I’m glad that your school, Sidwell Friends, already has lots of healthy options in the cafeteria, including vegetarian chili and roasted vegetable pizza…The problem is that most students eat unhealthy foods, like hot dogs, pepperoni pizza, ham sandwiches and cheeseburgers, every day at school. A lot of schools, including mine, don’t offer enough healthy fruits, vegetables and vegetarian meals.” Barnard, who specializes in internal medicine at George Washington University Hospital as well as conducting medical research for PCRM, says that "right now one in six children is obese — in some areas it's one in four." And according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, one in three children born since 2000 will develop diabetes. Barnard says he has no knowledge that President or First Lady Michelle Obama object to the ads. Rather, he says, it's "White House handlers" being vigilant ever since J. Crew "turned the kids into catwalk models" earlier this year. Ever since, the "handler get nervous every time there's a reference to the presence of children in the White House." "I don’t want to suggest the President would take Jasmine out for a beer," he says. "I mean, she's only eight years old." -jpt

User Comments

I’m sorry, but meat and cheese is also healthy and offers iron and more protein in your diet, which is especially nutritious for a growing child. While veggies are also good, a pure diet of veggies for children, in my opinion isn’t healthy.
But I believe the poster is fine. I think it was a bit of a stretch to go after this by the WH.

Posted by: KR | August 11, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Why don’t parents take the responsibility for preparing healthy lunches for their children to take with them instead of complaining about cafeteria food?

Posted by: Wanda | August 11, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Nothing new here – most responsible politicians want their kids kept out of their work. Doesn’t matter if the President supports the program or not, his kids aren’t the way to make any point, beyond perhaps the standard photo-op “Hey, I love my kids just like you” (same as with McCain’s kids, or Bush Jr’s kids, etc).

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Raising healthy kids is more than just making sure they have a good diet. Making sure that kids are emotionally and mentally healthy is important, too.
I can’t imagine growing up in the public eye is easy. I wouldn’t want to be in the middle of a policy issue.
Barnard may have his heart in the right place, but some of his quotes come off as smarmy and too cute by half. He may be trying to contrast Sidwell Friends with other schools, but how can he be serious in claiming that “The contrast is not with the daughters” when the poster mentions “President Obama’s daughters?” Whether their school or their names are in the ad is irrelevant, everyone knows exactly what Barnard and his organization is trying to do here.
Presidential kids, especially those who are underage, are off-limits.

Posted by: Healthy kids | August 11, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

The Dr knew if he used a pic of the Obama girls he would get publicity for his cause. It might be a good cause and all- but you NEVER use the image of someone elses children for your own goals. It’s wrong-and creepy.

Posted by: lojo | August 11, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am

So parents cannot pack a ‘healthy’ lunch for their children ?? I’m a parent of 3 and I have no problems looking at the school menus and deciding when they should eat the school lunch and when I should send something healthier.
What are they going to say when most of the ‘healthy’ foods are being thrown away because kids don’t much care about what is healthier…they care about it tasting good. Parents – take the responsiblity of raising your children seriously and don’t entrust the government or privately run schools to do it for you !

Posted by: Lawrence | August 11, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Wanda:”Why don’t parents take the responsibility for preparing healthy lunches for their children to take with them instead of complaining about cafeteria food?”
Many parents are too poor or just stupid. And after the debacle of finding a large portion of America’s young men unfit to serve in WWII due to easily avoided childhood malnutrition, subsidizing school lunches is a no brainer. Just because the parent can’t provide doesn’t mean we shouldn’t pony up a few dollars to ensure the child is not stunted for life (and unable to serve in the military or a number of other productive roles). Not supporting childhood nutrition would be a classic case of penny-wise and dollar foolish.

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

“Why don’t parents take the responsibility for preparing healthy lunches for their children to take with them instead of complaining about cafeteria food?”
Because we live in a nanny state.

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Wanda is right; the answer to the question that the poster asks has to have something to do with the parents. The assumptions behind the poster’s question are terribly statist.
As for mentioning the Obamas’ daughters – it’s out of line to do so without clearing it with the Obamas first, even if it is safe to assume they would agree with the policy being advocated.

Posted by: guess so | August 11, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am

“Not supporting childhood nutrition would be a classic case of penny-wise and dollar foolish. ”
Just to clarify, I’m fine with the current school lunch program. Subsidized lunches need to meet nutritional needs, and cheese and bologna level fare can do that just fine. Feel good stuff like organic vegan kosher low salt arugula is up to parents.

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Sorry to tell you this, Wanda, but bologna is not healthy. Some meat is healthy, but not the crap they offer in most public schools.
Cheese isn’t really healthy but its got nutrients and is fine in small portions. Offering kids a daily pizza is irresponsible.

Posted by: Steve | August 11, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

KR said: “I’m sorry, but meat and cheese is also healthy and offers iron and more protein in your diet,…”
While I agree meat and cheese CAN be healthy, if you’ve ever seen what the local school cafeteria serves, you would be appalled (unless you like greasy food – soggy from the grease!) Our school does offer lots of fruits and vegetables. The problem is they don’t offer any protein that isn’t high in fat and cholesterol.
I think the poster is great, goes straight to the point and it got the WH’s attention, which I believe was the intent, even though Barnard may deny it. I have no complaints if the government wants to spend some money on “reforming” school lunches.

Posted by: Rican | August 11, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

tjp612:”Because we live in a nanny state.”
Could you cite any state in the world that does not meet your definition of “a nanny state”? That bumbersticker starts to lose it’s sting when you apply it to every country in the world that has any speed limits or that ban sales of rocket launchers to teenagers.

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Packing a lunch is a time honored tradition.

Posted by: mad | August 11, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am

I read this ad as follows:
“Priveleged elites get better nutrition than poor folks”.
This interpretation represents a truth and an injustice. Work should absolutely be done to improve nutrition for needy children.
However, posters from the right wing blaming the President and his children for this mistreatment of those in need, in the face of the fact that imposed malnutrition has been encouraged and put into public policy by Republican hero Ronald Reagan (and his “welfare queens”) and used as a divisive political issue by Republican disasters Bush 1 and 2 to fire the limited imagination of the race-hating right, are wrong.
And the White House is right to say so.

Posted by: aurum79 | August 11, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am

“Could you cite any state in the world that does not meet your definition of “a nanny state”?”
jhw is back asking for statistics, sources, blah, blah, blah…
Can you plausibly deny that with each passing decade we have become a society more and more dependent on government issued “entitlements” and less dependent on ourselves?

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I have seen these public school lunches and they are not fit for a dog!!!! They do not even resemble the meat and cheese items you make at home… in fact they do not even resemble meat and cheese. I pack my kids lunch everyday, and it is a bit of hassle and a bit more expensive than the school lunch, but worth it for sure. However, there are families that depend on the free and reduced lunch. We are what we eat… literally.

Posted by: jolie | August 11, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am

“And after the debacle of finding a large portion of America’s young men unfit to serve in WWII due to easily avoided childhood malnutrition, subsidizing school lunches is a no brainer.”
psst…jhw…you realize the Great Depression preceded WWII, right? Could these unusually extreme economic conditions explain the malnutrition?

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am

you can’t make reference to any politicians children. Unless of course you are David Letterman. Then they are free game, and you can get by with it.

Posted by: Moon54 | August 11, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Wow. I can’t believe they’d use the daughters against Obama. Talk about a guilt trip, and an unfair pressure on the daughters.
If their school wants better lunches, isn’t there a better way to suggest it besides “Well, THEY get better lunches, why can’t I?”
Which is so, you know, third grade.
The White House had every right to say take the posters down. You can’t mention people without their permission–especially young daughters of a celebrity. They have rights not to be exploited for advertising purposes.

Posted by: Jerome | August 11, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Parents should just pack a lunch for school. It is more cost effective and healthy than buying a school lunch. I know that many are on Free/Reduced lunches, but that program does NOT pay enough to the schools to provide healthier meals. The schools are forced to provide free meals but are not reimbursed the cost of providing the meals.

Posted by: Debbie | August 11, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Little Jasmine has a point…

Posted by: DaveM | August 11, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Debbie has a point, too!

Posted by: DaveM | August 11, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Who says that the food the Obama girls eat is healthier than the public schools? My niece has gone to private schools from elementary through high school and she complained about the lunch. On the other hand, my sons go to public school and their lunch menu (which I can view online)contains healthy choices. I will say not all lunches are created equal. However, it happens in private as well as public schools.

Posted by: pauline | August 11, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am

If you don’t like the FREE lunches you are receiving for your children…get up off your duffs and pack a good lunch fot them. Stop asking people to take care of your children and making it their responsibility that they are healthy. From the look of the children I see, many of them are too heavy for their ages indicating that they are eating even at home, the wrong food. Who are you going to blame for that..the stores who sell the food. Too many people today want everyone else to be responsible for their families. It is time to take care of your own and let me say that many of you do. This is not a blanket statement…only for he lazy ones.

Posted by: talmag | August 11, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am

tjp612:”you realize the Great Depression preceded WWII, right? Could these unusually extreme economic conditions explain the malnutrition?”
Not sure how that is relevant. Are you suggesting that no one in the US lives in poverty akin to the Great Depression now? Or just that having a smaller portion of kids stunted for life and unable to fully contribute to society is OK if it saves a few bucks spent on government cheese?

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Pictures of the President’s children were not used. They just referenced the school they go to.

Posted by: C | August 11, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Public schools especially serve nothing but Crap. bologna is NOT meat. It is a fatty substance pressed together containing loads of nitrates and salt. Cheese is loaded with preservatives and salt.
When will we wake up and take responsibility for our childrens health? Probably never. Fast food exists because of cheapness.
The food industry is like the cigarette industry. It must be held accountable for feeding a diet that is killing us. the food industry will not change by itself. Government intervention is needed to guide better nutrition.
Whats the matter with spending a little more for better choices? Public schools wont quit serving crap until they are forced to.

Posted by: VS | August 11, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am

tjp612:”jhw is back asking for statistics, sources, blah, blah, blah…”
No, I asked you to cite ONE SINGLE COUNTRY YOU DO NOT CONSIDER A NANNY STATE. Just one country. Are you so far outside of reality that you can’t do that, or are you afraid to say something like Somalia?
“Can you plausibly deny that with each passing decade we have become a society more and more dependent on government issued “entitlements” and less dependent on ourselves?”
Yes, I deny that. But what’s the point? You don’t care about facts, sources, reality, blah blah blah.

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am

My mother grew up poor in a household with 9 kids. She routinely had to skip meals so that the other kids could eat. It wasn’t her fault. And she said it absolutely was a distraction during the day.
We live in a country that throws food away enough food each day to feed these kids. Sure, it’s a parent’s job to care for their kids… but if the parent can’t or won’t do it… we should do it.

Posted by: gobot | August 11, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Why aren’t S Palin’s children off-limits, lefties?

Posted by: arkdelta | August 11, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Jerome, the president of the United States is not suppose to be a celebrity. I think that is the problem with Obama and his admin. He is suppose to be the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! and act accordingly.He is not suppose to be the rock star the msm and his followers have made him out to be. He acts like a celebrity though so I understand how you would be confused.

Posted by: notanobamafan | August 11, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

I’m about as rock ribbed a Republican as you’ll find anywhere, but I completely support Food Stamps and the free and reduced meals for children in schools program. These programs efficently deliver a vital resource to people in need.
That said, the school lunches are usually pretty dismal. I’ve never understood why they don’t just concentrate on sandwiches, fruit and vegetables, and soups. That’s what I eat for lunch, and I always mangage something that is inexpensive and tastes good as well.
Oh, and that’s over the line to use the Obama girls without their parents’ permission.

Posted by: Bridget | August 11, 2009, 11:46 am 11:46 am

talmag
There is not question in my mind that contempt for people of color drove government welfare policy (and therefore access to balanced nutriton) under conservative administrations. If the notion, expressed repeatedly here, that black people are too lazy to provide good nutrition for their children isn’t race hate, how would you describe it?
The “it can’t be racism” shrieking from conservatives belies guilt and denial of the obvious, crushing effects of Republican policies on minority communities.
Which children in our country are most likely not to get enough to eat? The poor. Which are most likely to be people of color. The poor.

Posted by: aurum79 | August 11, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am

The problem with school lunches originates with the big food manufacturers.
Local growers are cut out of school lunch programs. So, kids eat processed food and the big corporations get an enormous subsidy.
To fix this problem… all you have to do is start buying locally grown food. Start with a small percentage and work your way up.
The schools will get a good deal on good fresh food. The kids would get better meals. And local food producers would get a huge boost by having access to a large market without a big business acting as a middle man.
It’s a lot like health care.
We deserve health care. Doctors deserve pay for the care they provide. The key is to cut out the big fat middle man, the insurance company (and their lobbyists, lawyers, executives, marketers, sales staff), who squeeze the doctors and the patients to create a big comfortable business off everyone else’s hard work and fear.

Posted by: gobot | August 11, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am

arkdelta….
I didn’t bring up Palin’s children. And I have absolutely nothing to say about them, except that they are good-looking kids and I hope that they have long, happy, and productive lives.
I want the same for anyone’s kids.

Posted by: gobot | August 11, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am

It never fails…. people always try to justify bad behavior now… by pointing to some bad deed that someone else did in the past.
It’s an absolutely absurd ethical standard… far outside of the Christian tradition.

Posted by: gobot | August 11, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Leave Obama’s children out of it.
But Bush’s and Palin’s children are fair game for whatever sleeze we want to push!

Posted by: Code Pink | August 11, 2009, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Interestingly, Dr. Barnard has failed to realize that Sidwell Friends school is a private institution, radically different from Miami-Dade county public schools. The funding streams are obviously not the same, so how is this comparison even justified?

Posted by: Really? | August 11, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am

@ jhw: “Are you suggesting that no one in the US lives in poverty akin to the Great Depression now? Or just that having a smaller portion of kids stunted for life and unable to fully contribute to society is OK if it saves a few bucks spent on government cheese?
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You seem to be a believer in “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs” (do a search for the author if you do not recognize).
In case you haven’t noticed, the world is not fair. And last time I checked, I don’t think we have a problem with a “stunted” populace in this country…

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Aurum, okay, i’m gonna pull a danita or jwh, please site sources for your “black people are lazy” statement. I have been reading these blogs for a few months now and I don’t believe I have EVER read a post that states that or anything near it. Why must you guys always bring out the race card? I know several black republicans. Are they racist also?

Posted by: notanobamafan | August 11, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am

The “haves”, always get better, than the “have nots”.
Those that are in the “have nots” category, are going to have to help themselves out of that category, to ever get into the “haves” category.
That is simply how things work, and there will likely never be an end to the “caste” system.
Basically the economy cannot function, under any governmental system, without “haves” and “have nots”. Even so called “socialist” countries, have such a caste system.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | August 11, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

“Can you plausibly deny that with each passing decade we have become a society more and more dependent on government issued “entitlements” and less dependent on ourselves?”
jhw: Yes, I deny that. But what’s the point? You don’t care about facts, sources, reality, blah blah blah.
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Hey, jhw: Socialism is great – Until you run out of other people’s money!

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

The Obamas have made their wishes very clear on this score, and they have minimized public appearances of the girls. Obama only very rarely even mentions them. So yes, this is inappropriate, even for a non-profit. At the very least, they should have asked. Michelle Obama has been advocating healthy eating since entering the White House, so who knows?
As for Sarah Palin’s children, they should also be off-limits. It would help if she stopped using them to make political points. The recent Facebook comment is a case in point, but only the most recent.
The accusation that somehow “all liberals” think her children are fair game is untrue and offensive. Let’s keep the discourse civil.

Posted by: Joyomama | August 11, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

“I’m sorry, but meat and cheese is also healthy and offers iron and more protein in your diet, which is especially nutritious for a growing child. While veggies are also good, a pure diet of veggies for children, in my opinion isn’t healthy.”
A) No one is advocating for a “pure diet of veggies.” Do you know what “vegetarian” means? Yes, the word looks like “vegetable,” but you do realize that foods other than vegetables are vegetarian, right? Beans, nuts, grains…
B) While a diet of only vegetables would, of course, be unhealthy (which, again, is why no one is advocating it) the fact (note: fact, not opinion) of the matter is that a vegetarian diet is PROVEN to be healthier. As in scientifically proven. Peer-reviewed studies. Opinions really aren’t relevant when it comes to questions of scientifically determinable fact.
C) Meat and cheese aren’t healthy. Sorry. In moderation, they can be not significantly UNhealthy, but the alternatives are always healthier. There are plenty of other ways to get all of the protein and iron you and your kids need.

Posted by: JJ | August 11, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Get use to it Odumba, YOU opened the door to going after children by the media and lobbyist groups.. Now how about that deal with the drugs companies, you worked out to get their backing on your deathcare bill…how much more are seniors going to pay????

Posted by: stardate: 2730.1 | August 11, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Some Alinskey coming back at the Community Organizer in Chief?
Pick the Target: Unhealthy school lunches
Freeze It: Posters asking for vegetarian, non-dairy fare
Personalize It: President Obama’s daughters get healthy school lunches.
Polarize It: Why don’t I?
Brilliant.
This remark is very telling of what the elitist limousine liberals believe: “Many parents (Americans/people in general) are too poor or just stupid.” We have to have government do everything for them.

Posted by: Left wing is the new right wing | August 11, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

I blame the unions.

Posted by: Lori | August 11, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

arkdelta:”Why aren’t S Palin’s children off-limits, lefties?”
One, they are off-limits outside of the shock bloggers. Unless – two, she trots them out. Just recently she made up some lie about how her son would not receive health care under the current proposals. And her daughter became a national spokesperson for abstinence (a public position).

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

wow its to the point that a citizin will not be able to breath without the conent of the president, lets see if i am not repoted as a mobster for thinkng this..this man is out to comtrol with a mighty fist! soon many will be in consentration camps…or is this just a nightmare of mine?

Posted by: tiliyeah | August 11, 2009, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

tjp612:” “Are you suggesting that no one in the US lives in poverty akin to the Great Depression now? Or just that having a smaller portion of kids stunted for life and unable to fully contribute to society is OK if it saves a few bucks spent on government cheese?
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You seem to be a believer in “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs” (do a search for the author if you do not recognize).”
No, I’m not. And can you answer the question (any question)?
Wanting to invest a pittance of money, a few hundred bucks per life, so a child can grow up healthy enough to serve in the military (or as my doctor, carpenter, engineer, etc) is not Communist, it is intelligent. As I stated before, I’m talking about government cheese for kids who would be technically starving otherwise, not equal-for-all organic salads.
And as a side note, wanting to help the poor is not Communist either, it is Christian.

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

The constant lying.
The staggering arrogance.
The astounding incompetence.
The dangerous narcissim.
Obama continues trying to put as much of the private economy under government control as possible to create his nanny state utopia where he is king.
Obama is a disgrace.

Posted by: Derrick | August 11, 2009, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Now I’m gonna get snarky.
Since Obama is hell bent on making us folks who eat healthy, excercise, and in general do the things we ought to do to keep health care costs under control pay for the privilege of subsidizing those who eat crap their whole lives and then develop type two diabetes, the least he can do is give PCRM permission to use his daughters to advocate for healthy child nutrition in schools.

Posted by: Bridget | August 11, 2009, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

tjp612:”Hey, jhw: Socialism is great – Until you run out of other people’s money!”
Name calling and a pithy bumper sticker in one sentence. I just don’t know how to respond to such a persuasive argument. It is so much more compelling than answering any of my questions.
Can you name one single country that you do not consider a “nanny state”?
Do you believe that having a portion of kids stunted for life and unable to fully contribute to society is OK if it saves a few bucks spent on government cheese?

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

tjp612:” I don’t think we have a problem with a “stunted” populace in this country…”
You better get that study written up pronto then. There are a lot of people who’d love to see that data and quit wasting money on poor communities with hunger problems from the Appalachians to LA.

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Bridget:”Since Obama is hell bent on making us folks who eat healthy, excercise, and in general do the things we ought to do to keep health care costs under control”
Lance Armstrong had amazingly healthy habits, yet ran up a seven digit medical bill. Catastrophic health care costs are not diabetes (or a leg broken mountain biking), but cancer, heart disease, and auto accidents. And exercise only really helps one of those.

Posted by: jhw539 | August 11, 2009, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Aurum, the “crushing effects of Republican policies on minority communities” is a lie.
The Great Society programs that the Democrats passed in the 1960′s made hash of the best of intentions.
While the programs gave a good deal of physical comfort to many poor people, they also decimated the black family, something not even slavery could accomplish (by the time of Clinton’s Republican Congress’ welfare reform in the 1990′s, only 30% of black children had fathers who were married to their mothers).
Strengthening families, teaching responsibility and giving a hand up and not just a hand out would have done far less damage to the inner city communities.

Posted by: Left wing is the new right wing | August 11, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

@ jhw: “No, I’m not. And can you answer the question (any question)?”
Sure, under following conditions: (a.) it does not involve doing research on your behalf (you can do your own), and (b.) question is actually coherent.
“Can you name one single country that you do not consider a “nanny state”?”
Depends on definition of “nanny”. But back to my point: Do you really believe that since FDR and the Great Depression that we have NOT become a society more and more DEPENDENT on government handouts? Really?

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Serah Palins kids were attacked in a very vicious manner, i guess thats o.k cus not all things are equal.
unless your blind and stuped you have not noticed the way hollywood portrays the white male latley, as stuped clumsy,sissy,dimwitted,fat,wimpy,
dominated by a woman,looking into a fride like an idiot.falling all over him self with a B.B.Q.

Posted by: tiliyeah | August 11, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Presidebt Obama has used his daughters to defend abortion rights and to condemn racism.
Does that mean the young ladies are fair game?

Posted by: mad | August 11, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

I learned about Alinsky from conservatives.
I did go to an anti-war workshop once, and the community organizers said:
1) Wait your turn to speak.
2) Never talk over anyone else.
3) Avoid using rude language.
4) Seek dialogue with the opposing side.
5) Always thank your rep for the opportunity to speak.
No Saul Alinsky, just a lot of good manners and common sense.
But the right is obsessed with Alinsky. He’s like their bible. He teaches both their tactics…. and then, they use him as a scapegoat for their own bad behavior.
Too bad.

Posted by: gobot | August 11, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

“You better get that study written up pronto then. There are a lot of people who’d love to see that data and quit wasting money on poor communities with hunger problems from the Appalachians to LA.”
There you go again…
From media reports and personal observation, the problems related to obesity in this country FAR outweigh (pardon pun) issues related to hunger. I’m not denying that we can’t do better, but to imply hunger is a significant problem (relative to other challenges we face as a nation) is disingenuous.
Gotta run, jhw. Need to get to work to earn a salary fit for re-distribution to those precious entitlement programs!

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

FREEDOM OF PRESS IS DEAD!
Their Obama worship and Jason Blair journalism is destroying democracy.
They just can’t see their bias.

Posted by: mike harris | August 11, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

jhw539, very high deductable insurance for catastrophic health care is cheap, as long as you have half a brain and obtain it before you get sick. You can even get coverage for auto accidents cheaply through auto insurance.
Costs for insuring the chronically ill are a very big part of this nation’s health care dollar, and I think that if Obama wants me to subsidize couch potatoes who eat crap their whole lives, the least he can do is grant permission for the use of his daughters’ names for a healty child nutrition campaign.

Posted by: Bridget | August 11, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

What does eating healthy food have to do with S. Palin’s kids. I agree, they should be off limits but the one who brings them up he most is Sarah herself. No one wants to hurt Trig and to interject him in her comments leaves the door open for comments. Her children should be left out of her politics and people will leave them alone. This way, they can comments on her statements only

Posted by: talmag | August 11, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

“Strengthening families, teaching responsibility and giving a hand up and not just a hand out would have done far less damage to the inner city communities.”
Amen, brother (sister).
I would apply same to any community/family that has undergone several generations of living exclusively off of the government. In the end, this “help” debilitates and disenfranchises these communities, families, and individuals.

Posted by: tjp612 | August 11, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Wonder what the obama kids ate before they entered the white house.

Posted by: JULIE | August 11, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

What is he hiding??

Posted by: JULIE | August 11, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Obama uses his children, wears mom jeans, drinks Bud, bowls like a sissy just to show what a regular guy he is.
He flaunts his kids all the time.
The Clintons proved that even president’s kids can be sheltered if that is what they want.

Posted by: jack | August 11, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

More Obama duble standards. He is fighting the two Americas campaign, ours and his.

Posted by: Stanjones | August 11, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Oh I see…
Obama wants privacy while he sticks his nose into everyone else’s lives.
And even encourages people to spy on their neighbors.
He should quit prancing his kids around everywhere he goes.

Posted by: max | August 11, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Maybe BO should have thought about his two young daughters before he decided to change their lives forever—just so he could make history.
Michelle even accused him of having selfish ambitions.
His kids will never have a normal life.

Posted by: larry | August 11, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Didn’t J.Crew use the Obama girls recently from the Russian trip? I don’t recall hearing a protest from the WH about that.

Posted by: mad | August 11, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

The problem is that it’s this specific organization which is involved with campaign. Despite their name, they have very few physicians, and they are really a front for extreme food philosophies, and want a vegan world. I’m very liberal and I think this group is dispicable.

Posted by: briella | August 11, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Obama sure doesn’t seem to mind putting his kids on the cover of every magazine.
Did it hit a nerve that his kids are privileged? They were before he became president.

Posted by: bailey | August 11, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

tiliyeah | Aug 11, 2009 12:26:40 PM—”Serah [sic] Palins [sic] kids were attacked in a very vicious manner.” LOL, yeah, by their own mother, who uses them for every petty political advantage. she loves to use her own children.

Posted by: Paul Wall | August 11, 2009, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

July 6, 2009, Huffpo and Politico have articles about J.Crew marketing using pictures of the Obama daughters.
One could argue that healthy school lunches is a more worthy use of the young ladies than advertising for a clothing company.

Posted by: mad | August 11, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

The thing is, I don’t see anyone saying President Obama opposes the policy change, and suspect it’s more likely that the real fight is with people from the Republican party, who still worship at the feet of St. Ronald “Ketchup is a vegetable” Reagan. It’s about exploiting his kids for political gain.
I support the policy change, but not using the family of a politician to make this or any point, especially without the politician’s permission. (I’m not even so crazy about politicians themselves using their kids as political pawns.) At the very least, parents should determine how much or little publicity their minor children receive. Sasha & Malia didn’t run, and were not elected. Unless/until mom or dad puts them in this kinda spotlight, leave them out of it.

Posted by: repsac3 | August 11, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Obama’s Administration theme is NOT Hope-and-Change but rather Double Standards-and-Hypcorisy……”Whats Good for the Goose is NOT Good for the Gander” mentality!

Posted by: KMDay | August 11, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Hang, to comment on your post, we are not angry that “we lost”, we are worried that everyone will lose because he has no idea what’s going on. I know everyone sees it, but they would be racist if they truly admitted how they feel. Soooo, how does it feel to have a ghetto embarrassment (Michelle) and ignorant man in a suit (Bamy) leading (scratch that—attempting to lead this great nation? None of his agenda will pass, we are stepping up to the plate to stop him now…….gave him a try, didn’t work………..he’s done (and I thought it would take longer)……LOL

Posted by: maniteu | August 11, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Chuck Norris had a great article today, with respect to the health care bill and sections 440 and 1904 of the House bill (Page 838), under the heading “home visitation programs for families with young children and families expecting children.” The programs (provided via grants to states) would educate parents on child behavior and parenting skills.
I wonder, would Michelle be okay with goernment workers telling her how to raise her children? Who would have ever thought the term “Nanny State” would actually ever be used in its literal sense.

Posted by: KMDay | August 11, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

it seems that people want to put their heads in the sand I don’t care What child is used to make a point that kids need to eat better meals. So many parents these days give their kids processed food microwave foods that it would be good for students to be able to eat fresh and heathly food so msybe they can start enjoying things that are good for them and encourage their parents to cook a balanced meal at home. my kids have a home cooked meals everyday and I’m not talking about hot dogs and french fries. tkwills

Posted by: TWills= | August 11, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

There’s no need to use the President’s children in this ad. Sounds like something a classless lib organization would do. Anyways, my experience with these butt-inski do-gooders is that they’re ruining school lunches for millions of kids. give ‘em deep fried tater tots and some fruit punch.

Posted by: country cuz | August 11, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Whatever happened to packing a nutritious lunch??

Posted by: Tanya | August 11, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

TWills= | Aug 11, 2009 1:03:31 PM—you’re absolutely right. parents need to be informed by whatever means. the meals kids eat are due to lack of parental education on nutrition. bad parenting is knowing better. so many children are overweight, even obese. much more than the rest of the world. it’s ironic that with the best medical and health system on earth some obese kids will have lower life expectancies than kids growing up in third world nations.

Posted by: Paul Wall | August 11, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Hey ‘Hang’-
me thinks he would LOSE the election were it held again today, based on current poll numbers… hindsight is 20/20. “Get over it, we won” only applies to sporting events (albeit, not all) but not elections. Winning an election is more than an election “high.” It is about leading and governing all, not only in a positive manner for those who voted for you and to the detriment of those who did not vote for you.
69 million of 305 million Americans voted for him. Only 128 million Americans voted in total. Of those who didn’t vote, some didn’t like the choices and some were “disaffected”, but based on Obama’s philosophies, they are suddenly becoming “affected”, and that is why you are seeing such an uprising of passion and resistance.

Posted by: BK | August 11, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

I agree that school-provided lunches today are much less healthy than when I was in school (before 1996), but implicating the Obama daughters is not the way to go about fixing the problem. PCRM needs to leave them out of it.

Posted by: knowerseeker | August 11, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Silly girl.
Prsident Obama’s daughters go to a private school! Like the one President Obama cut funding for in the last budget!
You’re complaining is un-American!

Posted by: drjohn | August 11, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Grammar error. Ouch.

Posted by: drjohn | August 11, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

who cares they used the Obama’s kids after all the left has let us know that using kids is okay be it in good ways or for attacks it is now a part of politics and if it is hands off on the Obama’s kids then it needs to be the same for all kids including the Palins kids and Obama needs to come out and say just that and the left needs to come out and apologies for all the families kids they have used in there attacks

Posted by: MG | August 11, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

“Obama’s kids then it needs to be the same for all kids including the Palins kids and Obama needs to come out and say just that”
I guess FoxNews didn’t show this.
CNN: “Sen. Barack Obama said firmly that families are off-limits in the campaign for president, reacting to news that GOP running mate Sarah Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is pregnant.
“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people’s families are off-limits, and people’s children are especially off-limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president.”
Obama said reporters should “back off these kinds of stories” and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.
“How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off-limits.”"

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Umm, because the Obama’s pay for their children to attend private school??
You know, if you’re not happy with the lunch choices at you kids schools, pack them a lunch!

Posted by: sally | August 11, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

KMDay / Aug 11, 2009 1:01:51 PM: Chuck Norris is presuming parents all have the basic knowledge AND resources to provide a nurturing, safe environment for infants and children.
Unfortunately, he’s dead wrong.
According to the CDC, U.S. infant mortality ranking in the world has been falling steadily, from 23rd in 1990, to 27th in 2000. Home visitation programs offer a proven, effective mechanism to ensure ongoing parental education and a link to social services.
We already have a history of proven, effective home visitation in the United States. How are these programs cost effective? Studies show the cost is offset by avoided foster care, hospitalizations, emergency room visits and child protective service time.
And the long range financial savings to our communities and our nation are likely even greater. For example, economist James Heckman reports family environments have seriously deteriorated over the past 40 years, and it’s putting our country’s future at risk.
Heckman’s study shows big gaps in educational attainment are present at age 5. I.Q. matters, but Heckman points to important traits that start and then build from birth through early childhood: motivation levels, emotional stability, self-control and sociability. Traits that lead to staying in school, getting a job and helping build a competitive America in today’s global economy.

Posted by: Idahogirl888 | August 11, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

“Obama specifically sought funding so kids could finish out their full terms though the school will not be accepting new students.”
Not accepting new students?
Gee, why is that?
Because Barack let the program expire despite parents’ concerns.
Why? Because liberals canot stand the possibility that vouchers work. This is what happens when unions own Democrats.

Posted by: drjohn | August 11, 2009, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Hey BARRY everything is open when your in politics

Posted by: TRW | August 11, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people’s families are off-limits,”
Obama’s kids should be as off-limits as were Palin’s kids.
Heck there is even a left wing website dedicated to insulted Down’s kids.
Payback is a you know what….

Posted by: drjohn | August 11, 2009, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

“Posted by: drjohn | Aug 11, 2009 1:46:08 PM”
You lied (*again) and got caught (again) but nice try @ changing the subject.

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Posted by: Idahogirl888 | Aug 11, 2009 1:43:36 PM
Once you normalize the methods by which infant morality is measured the data becomes entirely different.
Most countries don’t count babies who expire within two days as live births. Nor do they count very low birthweight infants.

Posted by: drjohn | August 11, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Referencing the Obama girls on this ad is just plain stupid. When I looked at it, I immediately dismissed it as more ignorant propaganda. God knows we have had a stomach full of that lately.

Posted by: Jim | August 11, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

“Once you normalize the methods by which infant morality is measured the data becomes entirely different.
Most countries don’t count babies who expire within two days as live births. Nor do they count very low birthweight infants.”
This claim from the same people who brought you the fictitious death panels.
The right wing is very embarrassed that Cuba (CUBA!) has a lower infant mortality rate than the US>

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Ryan C, you are obviously contemptuous of liars. How do you feel about the president’s repeated campaign promises of a net spending cut, and healthcare negotiations to be broadcast on CSPAN?

Posted by: mad | August 11, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

“Heck there is even a left wing website dedicated to insulted Down’s kids.
Payback is a you know what….
Posted by: drjohn | Aug 11, 2009 1:48:43 PM”
Well we already saw what the racists at Free Republic had to say about the Obama children.
But its nice to know you justify attacking children by what someone else did.
Why is the right wing unablee to take responsibility for their own actions?

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

The right wing is very embarrassed that Cuba (CUBA!) has a lower infant mortality rate than the US>
They’re also out of TP:

Posted by: 2 Ply | August 11, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

LOL, Chuck Norris is considered an expert on children! ROTFLMAO

Posted by: Jim | August 11, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

They’re also out of TP:
I’ll send them copies of Ann Coulter’s books.

Posted by: Trent | August 11, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

“I’ll send them copies of Ann Coulter’s books.”
Marginally clever for what passes as humor around here, but it’s all been said before. Anyway the softness just isn’t there. You should ignore the works of Ms. Coulter.

Posted by: 2 Ply | August 11, 2009, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

This ad is wrong – no one’s kid should be used like this – It is just not right. What has happened to our country is there no civility lift? Is nothing sacred? This is not smart or the way to do it. It turns me off

Posted by: A citizen | August 11, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

GREAT AD!!! The point being the folks that have all the wealth get much better treatment than those who don’t Additionally it is disengenuous to say your saving America by making your banking friends rich when in fact 1 in 5 children are in horrible shape due to food. IF we put 1 billion of the AIG money into our kids food this problem could be addressed! Stop corn subsidies, stop treating our food like a for profit business and treat it like you are trying to use OUR money to help OUR lives. The Civil Servants of this country should not be royalty any longer, they should live like the rest of us and not have millions to spend on a day in NYC.

Posted by: capo689 | August 11, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

It seems to me that the press had no problem reporting on everything that President Bush’s daughter did. The press and the democratic canditates themselves had no problem bringing Sarah Palins children in to the media. As they stated then she is the one who brought her children on the campaign trail so they are fair game. Well Mr. Obama can’t have it both ways either. He is the one who puts the kids out there in the public. Him and his wife need to grow up. Children of ALL celebrities are sought out by the media. The government won’t protect those kids, so they can learn to deal with it also.

Posted by: SteveO | August 11, 2009, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

“It seems to me that the press had no problem reporting on everything that President Bush’s daughter did.”
He had two daughters actually.
And they were adults who were left alone by the press except when they got busted from trying to drink underage.
“The press and the democratic canditates themselves had no problem bringing Sarah Palins children in to the media.”
Obama specifically said that families should be off limits so this is a lie.
CNN: “Sen. Barack Obama said firmly that families are off-limits in the campaign for president, reacting to news that GOP running mate Sarah Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is pregnant.
“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people’s families are off-limits, and people’s children are especially off-limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president.”
Obama said reporters should “back off these kinds of stories” and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.
“How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off-limits.”"

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

SteveO, did you notice the google count for Biden’s adult daughter and cocaine use?

Posted by: mad | August 11, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

mad –
Obama has been very consistent about this, since he declared Palin’s children to be “off-limits”, in response to a reporters query about Bristol during the campaign.
The White House did object to the J. Crew ad:
From the CNN site:
The preppy clothing line is already taking heat for trying to profit off the Obamas’ decision to sport their clothes. Yesterday, a spokesman for J.Crew insisted they never sent out a press release touting all the details on the trench coats and ballet flats the first daughters wore in Moscow.
Instead, J.Crew said it only responded to media inquires. The First Lady’s office tells NBC News, “We do not believe the girls should be used for marketing purposes.”

Posted by: Joyomama | August 11, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

“SteveO, did you notice the google count for Biden’s adult daughter and cocaine use?”
Ahhhh classic right wing.
Scream about their right to hurl abuse at an 8 year old and 11 year old because someone on the internet said something bad about Sara Palin.
Then spinning on a dime repeat a bogus rumor.

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

I learned a long time ago that Mr. Obama has different standards. He says one thing to the public and then means something totally different. There is not one single word that he utters which I would ever believe.
I know what he said during the campaigns about family being off limits. He let his staff go after Sarah Palin and her kids. He let the Democratic party go after Sarah Palin and her kids. He let the Democratics people go after Sarah Palin and her kids.
That way he could still say “he” did not attack them. But you know what, when you don’t speak out to prevent it by chastising your staff, your party, and your constituents then you are condoning it just as if you had done it yourself.

Posted by: Steve O | August 11, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Mr. Obama’s girls have not been attacked by anyone. They were mentioned on a poster.

Posted by: Steve O | August 11, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Steve O
It’s not hard to find attacks on the Obama girls — or Trig, or Chelsea Clinto or the Bush twins. There enough nasty stuff out there by immature people on both sides. But that doesn’t mean it’s right or fair. Most of all, it doesn’t mean it is defensible.
Enough of the grade-school excuse “but he did it first”!

Posted by: Joyomama | August 11, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Mr. Obama has no problem putting his kids out there when he wants photo ops. That is using the kids just as much as the poster is.
I have no idea whether right wing is a form of mental illness, but I do know that being a left wing liberal is way out in looneyville.
I happen to be an independent who has more sense than to align myself with one party. Both political parties are corrupt from the inside out starting with the voting public.
As I said earlier if you stand to the side and accept whatever your party says or does that is wrong and are too cowardly to speak out against it then you are just as corrupt as they are.
I don’t need the talking heads to think for me or to tell me what I should think. I know the difference between right and wrong. Its too bad that none of you left wing and right wing hypocrites never learned how to think on your own and and blindly follow the piper playing his flute.

Posted by: SteveO | August 11, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

I wonder what college that any of those who think that putting Obama’s daughter on a poster is an attack went to. Do you know how to read a dictionary? Do I need to look up the definition of attack for you? Nothing negative was said. No one was hurt physically or mentally.
If this is what you get from a liberal education then thank God I never went to a liberal leaning school.

Posted by: Steve O | August 11, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Steve O wrote:”I happen to be an independent”
And the world is flat

Posted by: Harris | August 11, 2009, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

The president’s daughters are not being attacked. For goodness sakes, people, the point of the advertisement is to say that ALL children should have the choice of what they eat in school. You have to separate someONE being attacked as compared to someTHING being brought to light. There is no question that Mr. Obama’s daughters are getting many perks at their school that most children will never get. That is a fact.
When Sarah Palin was directly being attacked because her child had Down’s Syndrome, there were no FACTS as to why the child was born that way-it was just ASSUMED that her “hectic schedule” was the only cause.
Someday the kool-aid drinkers will realize that not EVERYTHING people say is an attack against the Annointed One, or his wife, or his children. FACTS are FACTS folks.

Posted by: Shoe | August 11, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

to Joyomama:
The point that I am trying to make is that Mr. Obama is being very hypocritical. This thing with the poster is merely the next round of his hyprocisy.
Mr. Obama could not speak a true word if he was the our country depended on it.

Posted by: Steve O | August 11, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Steve O
I don’t think he has been hypocritical, since he has been consistent in his views and his actions regarding politician’s children.
I also don’t share your assessment of his honesty. He appears to be trying to deliver on his campaign promises, as I hoped he would. I voted for him because of his platform and would be pretty upset if he weren’t.

Posted by: Joyomama | August 11, 2009, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Posted by: drjohn | Aug 11, 2009 1:51:34 PM
OK, for the sake of argument, let’s set aside live birth statistics. Go look at the CDC web site on infant mortality. American kids under 1 year are still dying, not just low birth weight babies who only live 2 days. So how many US infant deaths are acceptable? Isn’t it a worthwhile national goal to educate expectant mothers how to prevent at-risk pregnancies?
According to the LA Times, the #1 cause of hospital admissions is childbirth. It is a huge part of the nation’s $2.4-trillion annual healthcare expenditure, accounting in hospital charges alone for more than $79 billion. Isn’t it a worthwhile goal to educate expectant mothers in an effort to prevent costly and dangerous pre-term births?
The proposed VOLUNTARY health care programs (provided via grants to States) would educate expectant parents + parents with young children on child behavior and parenting skills. The bill says “well trained and competent staff” would “provide parents with knowledge of age-appropriate child development in cognitive, language, social, emotional, and motor domains … modeling, consulting, and coaching on parenting practices.” This is somehow bad?
Apparently in the bizarre twisted logic of Chuck Norris. He thinks “government agents” would be “usurping parental rights”, as if medical professionals, teachers, or social workers are jack-booted fascists who force “indoctrination”.
Conservatives are adamant about the rights of the unborn, but when it comes to a healthier birth or better parenting…..sorry infant Americans, you are on your own.

Posted by: Idahogirl888 | August 11, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Joyomama:
I wish you would take the time to look at the facts then.
Obama promised that his administration would be transparent. But now the government is saying that they have no idea where all the TARP funds went. The white house refuses to release information on Cash for Clunkers program.
Obama promised to work in a bi-partisan manner. Yet he just said last week that the health care bill will be passed even if they have to ram it through over Republican objections.
Obama claims to be a community organizer, yet when the community is against him they claim its a fake protest, call the people nazis and unAmerican. The White House web site asks for people to turn in their family, friends, co-workers and others if they think something is “fishy” with the health plan. Whats fishy is that he is trying to ram it through before people even have a chance to read it. Most of the congressmen and Senators have said that they have not read it.

Posted by: Steve O | August 11, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

“Conservatives are adamant about the rights of the unborn, but when it comes to a healthier birth or better parenting…..sorry infant Americans, you are on your own”
That’s a lie. Republicans give the largest percentages of their money to charity. Conservatives give about 30% more to charity than Liberals.
Check out Birthright International. They provide non-judgmental and caring advice, friendship and emotional support, legal, medical, and educational referrals, prenatal information, maternity and baby clothes, housing referrals, social agency referrals and information on other community services.

Posted by: Left wing is the new right wing | August 11, 2009, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Idahogirl888
Would you please describe to me what a well trained and competent staff is? Which party gets to decide what well trained and competent is.
I know that most of our elected leaders have higher education, but all I have to do is look at all the different levels of governmental bureaucracy to know that it will never work. We do not have one single agency that is not in trouble. Look at Social Security and Medicare. Look at the VA, FDA, CIA, FBI, IRS, etc…… they are all an exercise in mismanagement

Posted by: Steve O | August 11, 2009, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

“I know what he said during the campaigns about family being off limits. He let his staff go after Sarah Palin and her kids.”
Not a single member of Obama’s staff every went after her kids.

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

“Mr. Obama’s girls have not been attacked by anyone. They were mentioned on a poster.”
Free Republic has attacked the Obama kids.

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

TOO BAD!!!!LOOK AT WHAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC OBJECTS TO AND THEY DON’T CARE !!!

Posted by: countrygirl_74 | August 11, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Posted by: Steve O | Aug 11, 2009 4:38:56 PM
The proposed parent education programs would be run by the States with federal grants. It would not be a Federal organization like the FDA or FBI.
And even if the proposed parent training program used federal guidelines to define a “competent staff”, how would that be any scarier than guidelines covering teaching certificates or licensing for health care employees?

Posted by: Idahogirl888 | August 11, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Would you want YOUR child’s picture on a poster, especially without your permission? I would NOT. I don’t see how anyone can find that controversial.

Posted by: sign seeker 17 | August 11, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Sorry, meant to say have your child NAMED on a poster.

Posted by: sign seeker 17 | August 11, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

School lunches that are ‘meaty and cheesy’ are nothing new…they were standard fare when I was in school in the 70s and that’s what we ate.
Today’s kids are not getting fat because they eat meat and cheese. They are getting fat because they are sucking down juice boxes (SUGAR!) and eating crap fake foods from infancy to adulthood and sitting in front of television sets and computers all day long.
Really, one doesn’t have to be conducting ‘medical research’ for an animal rights front group to figure it out.

Posted by: maureen | August 11, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Please everybody, have a heart and respect. Would the ad sponsors consider former presidents’ children/family members. Example, wounded soldiers in wars, all elected officials, leaders and their own children in all types of ad situations with a message. Let’s be fair. It’s not fair to exploit AMERICA’S President’s children for ones own selfish purpose. Smells like a rat.

Posted by: stormylady | August 11, 2009, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

After reading and listening to the smut directed toward “Republican politicians’ children”…well..Get a grip, their names nor pictures were shown and the poster was used in an effort to benefit ALL children..

Posted by: Parallex View | August 11, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

“Not a single member of Obama’s staff every went after her kids.”
Only 90%. Well, that’s a relief! What goes around comes around. Too bad. Not that the Obama kids (or any liberals’ kids) will see the inside of a DC public school or any public achool.

Posted by: % Point | August 11, 2009, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

The personal is political.

Posted by: A Womyn | August 11, 2009, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

%point.. Here’s a percentage point that might interest you…DC has the highest rate, over 23%, of Obesity among children in the country..NOT overweight kids, but OBESE..Now for a guy who is sooo concerned about everyone’s health, you’d think he would not take offense to a poster pushing for healthy lunches for kids that are not as fortunate as his own…Tells you a lot about the man does it not..Health Care right..more like pushing for making his name in history….

Posted by: Parallex View | August 11, 2009, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

%point…BTW He took money from those who did AND never lifted a figure to stop it…Again tells you a lot about the man..

Posted by: Parallex View | August 11, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Posted by: Left wing is the new right wing | Aug 11, 2009 4:38:06 PM
OK, for the sake of argument, let’s say Conservatives give 30% more to charity than Liberals. We can all agree that’s laudable. And, the Birthright International organization – wonderful work. But over the past decades, well -meaning charitable efforts have not cut America’s infant mortality rate. That’s not a lie, it’s a fact.
And for those conservatives who insist that intervention for healthier births or better parenting can ONLY be done via charities, it’s the same as accepting infant deaths by refusing to address the problem with government funded programs.

Posted by: Idahogirl888 | August 11, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

If you figure that the Democrats raise taxes more than Republicans thus giving more to social welfare programs, the rate of charitable giving is about even; however, on a voluntary bases, Republicans do give more than Democrats do to charities….Remember the Republicans are the rich, so the left wing says, therefore can afford to give more and take the deductions..Not so laughable, just logical

Posted by: Parallex View | August 11, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

“%point…BTW He took money from those who did AND never lifted a figure to stop it…Again tells you a lot about the man..”
“Sen. Barack Obama said firmly that families are off-limits in the campaign for president, reacting to news that GOP running mate Sarah Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is pregnant.
“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people’s families are off-limits, and people’s children are especially off-limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president.”
Obama said reporters should “back off these kinds of stories” and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.
“How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off-limits.”

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

“I think it is awful to refer to President Obama’s children in this ad. As a parent, he has the right to ask that the reference to his daughters be removed immediately!”

Posted by: Brenda | August 11, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

“Let me be as clear as possible,” Obama said. “I think people’s families are off-limits, and people’s children are especially off-limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president.”
“Not a single member of Obama’s staff every went after her kids. ”
Good thing he told most of his staff!

Posted by: Anon | August 11, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

So tell me ryan…What was Obama’s response to the what’s his name, you know the guy with the buck teeth, reference to the youngest daughter, a minor, and the baseball player little ummmm break in play…BTW, again, HE STILL TOOK THE CAMPAIGN MONEY…..So his words were just that, WORDS…

Posted by: Parallex View | August 11, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

“So tell me ryan…What was Obama’s response to the what’s his name, you know the guy with the buck teeth, reference to the youngest daughter, a minor, and the baseball player little ummmm break in play…BTW, again, HE STILL TOOK THE CAMPAIGN MONEY…”
So you’re mad that Obama took campaign money from David Letterman for election that happened in Nov because of a joke Letterman told two months ago?
Even stranger since Letterman didn’t give any money to Obama.
FEC records show his only political donations of late went to Al Franken.

Posted by: Ryan C | August 11, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

ryan… You just don’t get it do you???..It’s all about “take the money and run.” I’ll just let your words speak for themselves…And add, SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA TAKE A STAND AND SPEAK UP FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT, in this case a minor child, of a political opponent who I do not agree with on any measure not that that has anything to do with this, who you sworn to protect and defend when you took the oath of office even against those of your own political party and political supporters…Change, not really..but I was hoping..

Posted by: Parallex View | August 11, 2009, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

So Barack Obamas staff never went after Sarah Palins kids, well anyone in the Democratic is technically part of his staff since they are all about unification of the party. He’s just a self absorbed idiot who should just deal with the media and all about his kids. He knew exactly what he was getting into when he ran and if he didn’t want his family involved then he never should have ran. I think to many people think he is like God and can do no wrong, but look at the economy now and all thats going on, and the jerk doesn’t even know everything thats in the health reform he wants passed and neither does congress.

Posted by: Dakdude | August 11, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I don’t understand, how someone can use his kids against hime, that’s the devil plain and simple. I mean my tax dollars paid for eight years for the “Bush Twins” to have Secret Service babysit them while they got drunk off their behinds! Why can’t your tax dollars pay for Obama’s daughters to get a decent meal. It would be a pretty sad statement if the presidents kids was not eating healthy!

Posted by: Mad Mack | August 11, 2009, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

A school lunch is not “healthy,” it is “healthful.” Please…if you are posting this in schools, how about the grammar?

Posted by: JWD | August 11, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Ohhh ..this is outrageous but bad mouthing Palin kids was ok? double standards I see. I don’t think the poster is demeaning at all. Post it and get over it!

Posted by: Frank | August 12, 2009, 1:32 am 1:32 am

Pass this message To President Obama.
Mr. President,
Universal Health Care is in the best Interest of The American Citizenry.
The Large Insurance Giants, Are Eager To defeat The Initiative For Purely pecuniary reasons; and make your administration go down in defeat. These corporations would seek to continue to rob America. If they break you, they break America!
Thus, I humbly suggest one or both of the following:
Rally your troops with stadium size events, and charge them to grass root the system once again (door to door; email, text messages, house parties, events, calls to congress, etc), put on a full Court press.
Second, have the IRS audit the large Insurance Giants, and disallow their many fraudulent deductions. Immediately seize and freeze that portion of their assets, equal to the amount of the Tax Fraud. Stream line the Audit process “Operation Americana” to bare fruit in 30-60 days. Don’t allow these thieves the privilege of dragging out the process in court.
Do what You Do To Drug Lords, above everything else, Seize The Cash first. It the cash they want, so take the cash and fund universal health.
Mr. President, if the Insurance Gang Lords must defeat you; then afflict upon them a damage that can only benefit the America people: Limit the size of their income streams. Kick them off the government dole; audit them; take the cash; cause Americana to benefit.
Mr. President, if you fail, American falls, but don’t let it happen on your watch.
PLEASE MR. PRESIDENT

Posted by: John Hoskins | August 12, 2009, 6:16 am 6:16 am

How crappy to use the Obama girls like that. I read one of Barnard’s book and some of his articles. I had respect for him. Now, I do not. I am quite disappointed in the man. How can you trust a man with no integrity, who uses “any means necessary” to promote his agenda. The meals in our schools do need to be more healthy but the schools cannot afford to prepare food the kids will not eat, will not buy. The Obamas are not responsible for how parents train their kids to eat.

Posted by: EddieG3 | August 12, 2009, 6:35 am 6:35 am

This is hardly an attack on the president’s children. It is a valid question that should be addressed. It is not right that kids should be fed the least nutritious foods because they are the cheapest. We should all support a universal lunch program that reimburses the schools for all the meals served to all the kids, while holding the programs to a higher standard of nutrition. Teaching kids to eat healthy would certainly be a big part of keeping health care costs down!

Posted by: Dana | August 12, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am

AWWW…Obama “the champion of public schools” who sends his daughters to a private school. AWWW! IT would be nice if Obama would address public education expenses. Special ED. costs (and regulation) are crushing schools and are supposed to be paid for by the Federal govt…but they don’t…so property taxes must cover the costs. Of course Obama has put us in such debt…schools will never be properly funded.

Posted by: MIke | August 12, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Tapper got sucked in just like WaPo to Barnard’s stealth effort to promote the vegetarian agenda. Vegetarian diets are no more “healthful” than meat and dairy diets as long as they are balanced. And USDA standards require certain balance in school nutrition. PCRM and its allies at PETA aren’t about health or even animal care. They are about trashing the meat industry.

Posted by: Food Cynic | August 12, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Oh, I’m sure the li’l poppets are shielded from knowing how cruelly they’re being used.

Posted by: Eyes Open | August 13, 2009, 7:29 am 7:29 am

yall just hating that obama got money to feed his children and the publics dont!

Posted by: lauren | August 13, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Please dont be offended to those in favor for this project. Its parent responsiblity on how they are going to raise their children. A lot of non profit organization today that is willing to open their arms and help those who are in need.

Posted by: malmonica | August 14, 2009, 6:53 am 6:53 am

This is just plain disrespectful to the Obama girls. Dr Bernard should be ashamed of himself for grandstanding this way. This was certainly the way to bring attention to his cause. I think there are better ways to do so. I live in Pennsylvania and have worked in public school for over 15 years. I have also been a vegetarian for longer than that. There are many low fat options for vegetarian children to pick from as I often buy my lunch from the student selections. It is a matter of working with the individual school districts and state Governors. I completely have no respect for Dr. Bernard’s tactics and would never support him while he uses his name in this sleazy manner. Rather than blame this on the newly elected people in the White Houe, you should be educating parents. Day after day, year after year, I witness parents bringing unhealty lunches of sandwiches, soda (which we do not sell at school)candy (also not sold) and processed snacks, because the students don’t want the salads, whole wheat pizza, vegetables and fruit that are offered. Dr. Bernard, you need to offer an apology to President Obama’s children and to all of us who have worked our butts off to provide healthy meals to children.

Posted by: Lucy | August 17, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am

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