White House: Town Hall Anger “Manufactured”
Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, tells ABC News that there’s nothing authentic about the protests Democratic congressmen are experiencing all over the country.
“This notion of a grass-roots campaign is totally and completely phony,” Doggett said. “The Republican Party has coordinated this apparent outrage and stirred it up.”
The White House made a similar charge earlier today, saying much of the anger was “manfactured.”
But Max Papas, an official from FreedomWorks, which is run by corporate lobbyist and former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, says his organization’s role in organizing some protestors is almost beside the point
“Those inside the Beltway need to know that you can’t fake this sort of outrage outside the Beltway,” said Papas. “It only happens when they are very concerned about what is going on inside of Washington, and it’s a clear sign that people are very concerned.
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Just fascinating how any feelings and actions other than the ones they sanction are phony and manufactured. This does not bode well. I don’t feel safe expressing my opinions in this country anymore, except anonymously.
Posted by: Chiara | August 4, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Doggett is wrong and his and the White House’s attitude towards average Americans is insulting.
Didn’t Obama tell people, “I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”
Posted by: Unbelievable | August 4, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Does every democrat have a deaf ear?
Posted by: Plumber | August 4, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Maybe so, but I was not at one of those town halls and I am pretty upset with the Dems and Reps. I do like that Ron Paul dude though.
Posted by: Huh | August 4, 2009, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Doggett is not worried about his seat. He is in a safe blue district of Texas. Austin is very liberal. The same district that keeps electing Ronnie Earle will keep electing Doggett.
Posted by: Axey | August 4, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Turf Wars – DC has been faking outrage for so long (i.e. Trent Lott comments,AIG bonuses) they don’t know what to do when they actually see it.
Posted by: mitrebox | August 4, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
That ‘manufactured’ comment will only get people more enraged and energized. They are pouring gasoline on the fire. The doubled down with arrogance on top of stupidity.
Posted by: Bill Dupray | August 4, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Funny how that works, Chiara. You could find a lot of democrats who would say the same thing about the last 8 years. I’ll just remind you that Bush is the one who instituted a policy of government spying on Americans in their own country.
Posted by: jan | August 4, 2009, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Whichever way you look at it, the loud and shrill outrage is out of touch with current American opinion . ..
“Sixty-three percent said they would support providing health-care coverage for all Americans, even if the government had to subsidize those who could not afford it.
Fifty-six percent said they supported a “public health insurance option” to compete with private plans.”
Abt SRBI poll conducted July 27 and 28.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”
Barack Obama, 2008
Posted by: mesquito | August 4, 2009, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Sooner or laters some report will outline what no one seems to want to admit. Congress is broken, both houses, both parties. Perhaps we can “manufacture” a fix
Posted by: TB | August 4, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Chiara . .. .
“I don’t feel safe expressing my opinions in this country anymore”
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The country was not made great by cowards.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Excellent!
Ex-President Clinton has secured the release of the 2 U.S. journalists from North Korea.
Congratulations!
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Check the facts, Tapper,. These fools are all working on behalf of conservative groups who just bus them in with pre-made signs. They are far from a spontaneous grassroots movement.
Posted by: matt | August 4, 2009, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
First of all, great job by the former President Bill Clinton and should be our President Hillary Clinton for their successful work with N. Korea to secure the safe release of Euna Lee and Laura Ling. What an amazing team the Clintons are!
The DNC made an enormous mistake in betraying them for the unqualified Obama who is proving to be far worse than Bush.
The Dems are making yet another mistake in the handling of the health care mess. It’s not a good idea to ridicule those who oppose it.
All public opinion polls clearly show that the American people don’t want the Dems health care plans. No amount of spin and lying can change that. Opposition keeps growing. That’s a fact.
I am a moderate, fiscally responsible Democrat and I oppose any single payer, government option and major overhaul of the health care system. I am very happy with my health care plan and wish to keep it. Everyone knows that if the govt gets involved in health care they will drive out all private insurance carriers and that would result in disaster, diminished care and rationing.
The govt cannot effectively run the current health care programs like Veterans and Medicare,Medicaid. What makes you think they can handle YOUR health care? Yikes.
Hillary 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: K | August 4, 2009, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
I am a democrat but this really disturbs me. I do not like the latest health care proposal (but do like most of the other things) and feel that Gibbs has stepped WAY over bounds on this. Come to think of it the only thing I don’t like about Obama is Gibbs.
Posted by: Jim | August 4, 2009, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Also, I would that the U.S. Treasury simply does not have the funds to pay for a national health care plan.
The U.S. Treasury does not have the money for the “cash for clunkers” plan either.
The U.S. Treasurer does not have the money to pay for current budget of overspending.
How much in taxes do you want to pay? In the State of New York the current top tax is 57%!! It’s too much. Which foreign countries do you want to be indebted to? China? Russia?? Whom?? We are borrowing from any country who will lend. It’s dangerous and burdening our children and grandchildren with a debt we cannot even count.
Posted by: K | August 4, 2009, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
danita, you do realize you’re encourging someone who doesn’t support Oblama to express her opinion don’t her. Is that so when she does you can have one more person to insult? Just askin
Posted by: notanobamafan | August 4, 2009, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
The govt cannot effectively run the current health care programs like Veterans and Medicare,Medicaid. What makes you think they can handle YOUR health care? Yikes.
Hillary 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You know, it’s really hard to believe somebody is a real Hillary supporter when they bash programs that she wholeheartedly supports.
Posted by: Skip | August 4, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
The actions of the current administration have made me afraid to speak my mind. I feel like I am living in Iran and must go underground. This is not what I voted for!!
Posted by: XrWE | August 4, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
pity me, I thought all the manufacturing went to China or cheaper venues! The Interestingly Doggett also blamed “liberatians” etc. It is funny, I guess, that it so easy to “manufacture” protests against Congressmen but maybe if they spent some time back in their districts and less on advice of Washington lobbyists, aides, and advisors they wouldn’t be so “surprised”- even if it was “manufactured”. We can only hope that Obama’s dream of an unelected, politically appointed health “czar” with access to ALL your personal health information happens soon…..that information could be good political blackmail to keep these manufactured protests limited lest they get out of hand.
Posted by: Ed | August 4, 2009, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
K . .. .
I don’t think you’ve got it quite right. The most recent Abt SRBI poll conducted on July 27 and 28 shows that . ..
Sixty-three percent said they would support providing health-care coverage for all Americans, even if the government had to subsidize those who could not afford it.
Fifty-six percent said they supported a “public health insurance option” to compete with private plans.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Great job to the incredible tag team of former President Bill Clinton and should be our President Hillary Clinton!
Today, the Clintons demonstrated to Obama and the world what real leadership looks like. Wow. The DNC really made an enormous mistake in betraying the Clintons for the unqualified Obama.
Also, the Dems are making a big mistake in berating those who oppose their health care plan. I am a Democrat, a moderate, fiscally responsible Dem who does not support a single payer or government public option health care plan. We simply do not have the money to pay for it. The govt cannot run the current health programs of Veterans, Medicare and Medicaid. What makes anyone think they can run a national health care plan? It would be a disaster and result in driving out all competition which would result in substandard, rationed care for ALL. No thanks, I’ll happily keep my current health coverage.
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: K | August 4, 2009, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
“The actions of the current administration have made me afraid to speak my mind. I feel like I am living in Iran and must go underground.”
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Manufactured fear . . .
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
“Everyone knows that if the govt gets involved in health care they will drive out all private insurance carriers and that would result in disaster, diminished care and rationing.”
Unless it’s legislated that way it’s going to be difficult to drive out all the private carriers if the government option is indeed that bad.
Posted by: Skip | August 4, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
So let me get this straight. My vehement disagreement with this takeover of my healthcare is “manufactured”? The hubris of these people has reached critical mass.
They deserve the very rebellion they are fomenting, even though that will be “manufactured” as well.
William Penn stated that government, like a clock, is put in motion by the hand of the people. How true that a narcissistic people would produce such totally self-absorbed ‘rulers’….
Posted by: Osteoblast | August 4, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
“Those inside the Beltway need to know that you can’t fake this sort of outrage outside the Beltway,” said Papas.
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Unless, of course, it is in a 10 page memo by “Right’s Principals” tied to Freedom Works on how to pack the house, rock the boat and disrupt Town Hall meetings squelching public discourse.
Posted by: Paige | August 4, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Obama and White House (per Gibbs today) claim that Obama had nothing to do with Bill Clinton’s trip to N. Korea.
This was totally a successful Bill and Hillary demonstration of what real leadership looks like.
Watch and weep Obama. You will NEVER come close to the intelligence, skills and success of the Clintons.
Hillary 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: K | August 4, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Why does the media and politicians think the America public does not or can not decide what is we like or dislike. If we tell our politician we don’t like the health it is not because someone told us to say it but because we can actually read and decide what is right and wrong. If you want a good health care plan all we have to do it require the President and Congress to have it.
Posted by: N. Sassin | August 4, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
as an independent voter, I see things from an objective, unbiased point of view, and from a strictly factual perspective, the Obamacrat for Palin is absolutely right. Barack Obama’s new mantra is “the insurance companies are evil.” True, but that is feigned outrage. You know who is even more eviler? trial lawyers. But is Barack Obama going to do tort reform? I think not! ambulance chasing, junk lawsuit filing, bottom feeding, blood sucking frivolous lawyers are a protected class: they are BOBOs (buddies of Barack Obama). But does Barack Obama give a care about evil trial lawyers ringing the American People dry? I think not! And do you know who is the most evilest of them all? big government. But does Barack Obama give a care that big government is ringing the American People dry? I think not! Now, as an independent voter, I like to look at all sides of the argument, so I respect people like Barack Obama’s chief political strategist adviser on health care politics Jacob Hacker. He said, and I quote, “Someone once said to me that this is a Trojan horse for single-payer, and I said, ‘Well it’s not a Trojan horse, right? It’s just right there! I’m telling you! We’re going to get there. Over time, slowly, but we’ll move away from reliance on employment-based health insurance – as we should – but we’ll do it in a way that we’re not going to frighten people into thinking they are going to lose their private insurance.” Or Barack Obama’s fellow congressperson from Illinois Jan Schakowsky, who said, and I quote, “And next to me was a guy from the insurance company who argued against the public health insurance option, saying it wouldn’t let private insurance compete. That a public option will put the private insurance industry out of business and lead to single-payer. My single-payer friends, he was right. The man was right.” But Barack Obama himself says, and I quote, “What are not legitimate concerns are those being put forward claiming a public option is somehow a Trojan horse for a single-payer system… So, when you hear the naysayers claim that I’m trying to bring about government-run health care, know this – they are not telling the truth.” We should have that debate: single payer or no single payer. that would be honest.
On a lighter note, congratulations to President Bush, who on Aug. 1 said that we must make it clear that North Korea will face consequences if it continues to defy United Nations resolutions, and today Kim Jong Il released the two American journalists.
Posted by: IndePalin voter | August 4, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
I’m so disgusted with Obama, his czars, and Congress. The stimulas has yet to produce jobs. I find it appalling that he blames Bush for 500 billion in dept and then he gets elected and spends 3 times as much in 6 months. Who’s he kidding? “Manufactured” it is not. I’m going to my local “listening” tour and will speak up against the irresponsible, secretive bullies that have been elected. I’m for all Americans being insured but certainly not a program run by the government who can’t even run social security, medicare, or a true stimulus package.
Posted by: disgusted | August 4, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
The answer is PROJECTION
Emmanual and Axelrod are either 1) Doing their best to change the game and create this illusion that the protests are manufactured and not grassroots organization or 2) are psychologically impaired and projecting what they’ve been doing on the American people. obama was manufactured.
The truth is that it is grassroots. I’ve been there, seen it, my 3 boys were there with me. No one encouraged me. I read the bill and hate what it will do to my family. I am angry obama won’t listen to the other side and work with them. I absolutely don’t want someone coming to my door with vaccinations telling me my children need to have their shots!
By the way, Hillary Clinton FIRST SUGGESTED a health care plan for all that would be similar to what she and the senate uses. Now some Republicans have suggested this option and it was shot down (not even voted on) by the idiot dems.
I’m with K… Hillary Clinton was the ONE and the DNC stole the election from her.
Posted by: Jenny | August 4, 2009, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Danita, who cares if the polls show a majority support for tyranny? Danita, who cares if tyranny is truly more cost-effective? We fight your ilk to preserve our freedoms, ‘manufactured’ freedoms that flow from God and virtuous men who’s shoes you aren’t worth to untie.
If you removed the scales you would clearly see this truly has nothing to do with costs or quality. It has everything to do with control. Do you truly trust anyone that has ‘control’ as a singular motivation?
twitter: Osteoblast
Posted by: Osteoblast | August 4, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
“The govt cannot run the current health programs of Veterans, Medicare and Medicaid. What makes anyone think they can run a national health care plan?”
And what makes you think big greedy corporations can successfully run the health insurance industry? They can’t. Millions of Americans can’t get health insurance and the cost to those who have it is increasing alarmingly.
Posted by: Skip | August 4, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
When did health care reform turn into health insurance reform?
People are so gullible.
Posted by: Axey | August 4, 2009, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
A note to the democrats and the republicans who are resisting health care: We have the worst health care in the nation ranked 37 in the world and the most expensive. We rank 50th in life expectancy…what is your problem? We will be broke if we do not address this health care program and to the democrats who are failing our president, I say you should be ashamed. You have a man with the courage to do something that no other president would attempt because it is hard. He keeps his promises and everyone seemed to want a health care program and now that he is attempting it, complaints arise. The cost of his new health care program will not cost a trillion dollars. That is what the republicans want you to believe. It will cost more if we do not address it and soon. I am appalled at the phoney gatherings who won’t even let the people in attendance speak. What are you afraid of? These phoney tea parties are just a ploy by the republicans to keep Obama from succeeding.
Posted by: talmag | August 4, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
“Danita, who cares if the polls show a majority support for tyranny?”
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Tyranny . .. you sound pretty paranoid.
Health care reform will pass and it will provide coverage to many people currently left out in the cold and it will finally bring health insurance companies in line.
For decades insurance companies have been skimming off the cream (and huge profits) by insuring largely the young, the healthy and the employed – and leaving the taxpayer to shoulder the burden of health care for the old, the sick, military injuries and illnesses and the vulnerable.
This will be finished.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
I would agree that some reforms are needed in our health care system. Getting rid of the pre-existing conditions clause, negotiated prescription drug prices are things I would like to see. I would not expect the American taxpayers to foot the bill for illegals. That’s not fair and not sustainable. I am not willing to pay more and receive less for my family.
The fact of the matter is we do not have unlimited resources. Water, land, food, energy, and health care are resources that have limits. Ask those who are currenly under strict water restrictions. We currenly do not have enough doctors and medical support staff to service us. It’s about quality of life. If we fail to act on illegal immigration and set limits on legal immmigration we will have a very different America. There is no land in the wild west to conquer anymore.
How do you see America’s future?
Hillary 2012!
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Posted by: K | August 4, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Seems to me that Obama spent years busing in protesters and people to stir things up and now that justified anger is coming his way over this terrible bill about to be foisted on us, one wonders if this is the pot calling the kettle black…
This bill needs to be defeated at all costs. The bill is a declaration of war on the elderly and the weak. The Democrats must really be proud of this National Genocide Act. And if it passes, we will see many deaths that otherwise would never had had to happen…
Posted by: Jon | August 4, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Jon,
Careful, flag at whitehouse dot gov will be getting an email about you. Dissent is no longer patriotic. Or allowed.
Posted by: Axey | August 4, 2009, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
“When did health care reform turn into health insurance reform?”
I know there are those who suggest that the two are distinct and you can have one without the other but I haven’t been convinced that anybody in this country really has healthcare worth a darn without also having insurance.
Posted by: Skip | August 4, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Well I see all the usual suspects have their Rules for Radicals books open. The tone of the commentary is getting a little sharper which can only mean their getting a little nervous. The Democrats will stand alone on health care “reform” legislation in whatever form it takes because it will be a political disaster for them.
They already have the market cornered on the uninsured voting block. This is all risk and no reward as far as votes in 2010 are concerned. Do they really want to put all those independent swing voters at risk with single payer? I doubt it.
Posted by: Woody | August 4, 2009, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
It amazes me that Bush ran this country in the ground and I never saw such evil comments used on him. Bush the dummy that he is made it his mission to start the war with Iraq. His stupid divisive politics truly stirred up the hate mongers that I see on the blogs.
President Obama inherited a pathetic mess of a situation and Republicans who are just bunch of paranoid men who use bigger dummies like Michael Steele to look inclusive.
President Obama is the smartest president we have had in decades and while he is not a perfect person he sure is a hell of a lot better than the crap of presidents before him.
Posted by: missy | August 4, 2009, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I dislike the insurance companies as much as anybody-I deal with them every day.However, the system works for the majority of Americans. I still can’t understand why so many people come to America for medical care if it is so rotten.How many of you quoting statistics know what a “t test” is?
Posted by: Nephron | August 4, 2009, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
“And if it passes, we will see many deaths that otherwise would never had had to happen…”
We’re seeing many deaths that wouldn’t have had to happen right now if millions of our fellow citizens had health insurance.
Posted by: Skip | August 4, 2009, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Follow the money trail and you may not like what you find.
If only the media had done and would do it’s job in investigating and reporting on exactly who the contributors to the Obama campaign were and are. The obscene amount of money Obama raised and spent in the 2008 campaign debacle should be investigated.
You think Obama is not beholdin’ to the contributors to the most expensive campaign in our history????? Think again. He’s a tool, my friends. Simply, a tool. The Clintons could not be so easily bought, therefore they were betrayed and Hillary could not be President.
Obama’s promise (lie) to take public financing? Ha.
The promised transparency? Ha.
Obama’s promise of 5 day waiting and public comment period before signing bills? Ha. Not happening.
Obama’s promise to end the wars? Ha. He’s escalating not ending. The fools who felt the need to punish Hillary on this war issue are hopefully tasting bitter kool aid now.
Ending the Patriot Act? Ha. He’s escalating the powers of the Patriot Act.
Obama’s promise to hire NO lobbyists? Ha. He’s hiring many, many, lobbyists.
Obama’s promises on NAFTA? Ha. Lies.
Wake up America, put down the kool aid.
Hillary 2012!
Unchecked power is a very dangerous thing, no matter who the party in power, they ALWAYS abuse it.
Posted by: K | August 4, 2009, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
The Town Hall anger is manufactured? Perhaps some of it is, but I would wager most of it is not. Obama is mistaking his “anyone but Bush” victory as some sort of phase shift in the psyche of America. He’s reaching too far, too fast for most Americans and the House Dems will pay the price in 2010. It’s still the economy, stupid. Always was, always will be.
Posted by: Woody | August 4, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Skip:”We’re seeing many deaths that wouldn’t have had to happen right now if millions of our fellow citizens had health insurance.”
Surely you know it is unlawful for any hospital to turn away any patient who needs care regardless of their ability to pay. Could you please clarify that statement?
Posted by: Woody | August 4, 2009, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
K . . .
“Obama’s promise to end the wars? Ha. He’s escalating not ending.”
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Obama promised to escalate the war in Afghanistan.
K . .. you’re not credible at all.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Wake up President Obama and maybe you will see farther than your nose.
Posted by: waggdogg | August 4, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Thank you President Clinton for securing the release of 2 Americans in captive in North Korea. It’s been confirmed that Mr. Obama didn’t pigeoned a personal message to North Korea. It’s surprising since this is the same Mr. Obama who said during the campaign that he will negotiate anywhere, anytime with any leader, corrupt or not, free or dictator, without any preconditions.
Posted by: young_voter | August 4, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Ridiculing one’s opponents is Rule #5 in Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals.” The Obama Administration has declared war on any Americans who dare to express any dissent. They’re playing with fire.
Posted by: Jenn | August 4, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
“I still can’t understand why so many people come to America for medical care if it is so rotten”
One of the main reasons is just the size of the US. If you know statistics you know that when comparing two similar samples of unequal size the average value of a certain quantity in both samples will be the same, but the extreme values will not be, the larger sample will be much more likely to have the extremes of greater and lesser values. Therefore a country like France is likely to have about the same quality of care as the US but the absolute best care is much more likely to be here in the US simply because the US is so much bigger than France.
Posted by: Skip | August 4, 2009, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
It amazes me that Bush ran this country in the ground and I never saw such evil comments used on him.
Posted by: missy | Aug 4, 2009 11:01:08 PM
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Ok, I’m back up off the floor now having spent the last two hours rolling around LMAO!
Posted by: Gimme a Break | August 4, 2009, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
“Dissent is no longer patriotic. Or allowed.”
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Hogwash . .. we remember the Bush administration. We remember how you were unpatriotic or ‘against the troops’ if you were against the attack on Iraq.
We’ve seen the real thing.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I read the organizing memos over a week ago…
These “protests” are absolutely astroturf.
Some of the PR firms are even busing people in to some town hall meetings.
Posted by: blip | August 4, 2009, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
“Surely you know it is unlawful for any hospital to turn away any patient who needs care regardless of their ability to pay. Could you please clarify that statement?”
It’s already been demonsrated that people are much more likely to get screenings and check-ups that catch potentially fatal conditions if they have health insurance. I can’t produce an actual number of those who do not catch cancers and such till it’s too late because they don’t have insurance but when the number of people without insurance is in the multi-millions I’m willing to bet it’s significant.
Posted by: Skip | August 4, 2009, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Worse yet, sick people just don’t go to the ER. I know a guy who had pneumonia for 3 months…. didn’t go see a doctor until he fell over unconscious and someone called an ambulance.
Posted by: blip | August 4, 2009, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Representative Doggett, you don’t need to think these events are phony. Now I have to tell you folks that have the Federal Insurance Plan ought to have to have your plans taken away like the rest of us will have to suffer. Nobody that has any insurance now is very likely to not have their insurance plans as their employers are going to dump us into the .6 billion plan that you sorry humans think that is enough to keep the rest of us heathy. So why do you guys get 1.6 trillion for yourselves and the Military. I actually think that only separate plan will be need and that’s for the Military.
We will never let you take away our insurance unless you folks have yours taken away too.
Posted by: elainekramer | August 4, 2009, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
I would be paranoid of the government if I got all my ideas from Limbaugh, Beck and Dobbs.
Posted by: doug | August 4, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Hmmm, intersting that ABC news chooses to have comments here drop off in a few hours. Are they thinking too many people “Voicing” their opinion here will look like REAL poeple care about this issue? Too bad………..ABC USED to be a real news organization. Not sure what they are anymore. Paid cheer leaders?
Posted by: Edward | August 4, 2009, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
“.ABC USED to be a real news organization. Not sure what they are anymore. Paid cheer leaders?”
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Wow, more paranoia and delusion . .. strange how far out people get.
Posted by: danita | August 4, 2009, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
“Americans for Prosperity” along with FreedomWorks, another insurance finance front group:
“After departing Virginia, the “Patients First” bus will travel to North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Indiana and Louisiana, Marchi said. Another bus will travel to Nebraska, Colorado, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Iowa, Arkansas and Missouri.”
Jake, you know these people are lying through their teeth. You know about their memos detailing how they plan to disrupt these meetings. What are you so scared of? Call them out, fergawdsakes!
Posted by: Flash Override | August 5, 2009, 12:06 am 12:06 am
BTW, any of you who have ever been to a health care “town hall” style gathering: its not the Democrats that they are trying to silence. If you’ve ever been to one of these, you know the question ALWAYS asked, and asked MOST OFTEN.
That’s what they are trying to silence, and you know exactly what I’m talking about.
Posted by: Flash Override | August 5, 2009, 12:09 am 12:09 am
No, Flash, I don’t know what you are talking about. Please don’t be coy. Spit it out, brother.
Posted by: tanarg | August 5, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am
It strikes me as extremely ironic that the White House is whining about so-called “organized manufactured anger”… Isn’t this the same thing our Community-Organizer-In-Chief did as his first job in Chicago?
BTW – The outrage, anger, and frustration being vented towards the Washington DC political elite (in particular, Democrats) is real. I’m waiting on my Rep. (who voted for cap and tax and “stimulus” bills) to announce town hall dates (if he has the courage to do so)…all without the benefit of someone “organizing” my attendance.
Posted by: tjp612 | August 5, 2009, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Danita I can assure you I am neither delusional or paranoid. I ask the question because I think it needs asking. I don’t understand how anyone, Democrat or Repulican is NOT interested in this issue. It affects all of us. Are we to just sit back and let congress and the Whitehouse pass laws without understanding how this is going to work?
I would call anyone who defends anything and everything EITHER party does delusional. We all have a voice and it appears that people are going to use it. Is that so bad? I want answeres on the health care bill BEFORE it gets signed into law. If that is Un-American then we have surely fallen a long way. WE don’t need another bill passed that doesn’t adress all of the problems associated with it.
When Bush did it, it was wrong, when Obama does it is wrong. If the republicans did something (like pass laws without reading them) and it was stupid, then it is just as stupid for democrats to do it. In my world wrong is wrong no matter what party is trying to pass it. As for the media, I think it is strange that they don’t seem all that interested in how Americans feel about this issue.
Do YOU think this bill should pass without knowing the full extent of cost, the ramafications, and the affect it will have on our health in the future? All I want is clear cut answers. If that makes me paranoid in your book, so be it.
Posted by: Edward | August 5, 2009, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I find it highly offensive that the white house made a statement that this opposition is manufactured!! The Democrats must think that the people of America are stupid!!! This is what I have to say to that: If you think that what the people have in Russia is good; If you like socialism and communism; If you like the Big Brother Government Telling you what to do; If you would like to experience what it was like to wish to be free in a fascist National Socialist Party Country like WWII Germany; then do nothing but sit on your hands because in a few years our government leaders (if not put in check) are going to achieve it. By, by, freedom. So long to what our founding fathers created. How dare you Mr. Obama for hanging your causes on the great deads of our Founding fathers like you so disgustingly did yesterday in your speech about the New GI Bill. Here’s to you Obama for not doing anything that you promised you would do! Here’s to you for lieing about everything you said you were going to do! Change! ha your not about change! You are about money, power, greed, manipulation, and control of the people. America stand up and demand your freedom be returned now!!
Posted by: Steve Fleck | August 5, 2009, 12:42 am 12:42 am
“Americans for Prosperity” along with FreedomWorks, another insurance finance front group:
“After departing Virginia, the “Patients First” bus will travel to North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Indiana and Louisiana, Marchi said. Another bus will travel to Nebraska, Colorado, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Iowa, Arkansas and Missouri.”
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Thanks Flash, appreciate the info . … where is it from?
Posted by: danita | August 5, 2009, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Of course these protests are drummed up in the sense that a relatively small organization puts together these protests and tries to pretend they represent the majority of normal Americans.
They do not.
Posted by: danita | August 5, 2009, 12:55 am 12:55 am
danita, its from the Richmond, VA Times-Dispatch, July 23rd.
MacGuffie, identified as a “grassroots conservative activist” by ABC, is also with FreedomWorks.
Posted by: Flash Override | August 5, 2009, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Flash.. ..
Where were these creeps when Bush was doubling the national debt and putting it all on the country’s credit card?
Posted by: danita | August 5, 2009, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Danita said:
“Where were these creeps when Bush was doubling the national debt and putting it all on the country’s credit card?”
Danita the issue is not Bush anymore. We can’t change the past. Its about our health care. Are you saying because Bush was a republican and an idiot that Obama gets a free pass for being a democrat and putting all of THIS on the country’s credit card? Is it okay when democrats do what the republicans did? I don’t understand that kind of thinking.
So I ask yet again….Do YOU think this bill should pass without knowing the full extent of cost, the ramafications, and the affect it will have on our health in the future?
I think that is what has people riled up, nobody has answered the questions.
Posted by: Edward | August 5, 2009, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Edward . . .
First of all, Bush doubled the national debt during the ‘good’ times. Instead of using the ‘good’ times to save or pay down the national debt, he overspent by huge amounts.
We were all taught to make hay while the sun shines and to put something away for a rainy day. Well, Bush didn’t.
And guess what, the rainy day is here and we need that money badly. State budgets are going bankrupt and the entire economic system just about collapsed. Had Bush been more prudent, we might have been able to get through this with a modest increase in debt.
“Do YOU think this bill should pass without knowing the full extent of cost, the ramafications, and the affect it will have on our health in the future?”
President Obama has addressed his guidelines for these items over and over again . . . we will soon see the final bills coming out of the house and the senate. They will tell more of the tale . . .
Posted by: danita | August 5, 2009, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Second of all, when the hard times come . .. . you hope to have a little money banked to pay the necessities. State budgets have collapsed, millions of people have lost their incomes . .. a total collapse can not be allowed, some things must be shored up. That’s what Obama’s administration did with the Recovery and Reinvestment plan. Much of the money went to 1) reduce taxes, 2) shore up state budgets to avoid as many layoffs as possible, and 3) fund unemployment monies and health care for those losing their jobs.
Posted by: danita | August 5, 2009, 2:03 am 2:03 am
~much of the money went initially to . …
Posted by: danita | August 5, 2009, 2:54 am 2:54 am
Danita I am sorry but while I agree that Bush was fiscally irresponsible, I don’t agree that he is solely responsible for all of our debt. We did have a congress and a senate (made up of both pub’s and dems) that helped spend us into debt. Not mention all 50 states had their OWN budgets (run by both pub’s and dems) that did NOT look to the future either. If I place blame I place it on BOTH parties.
For the time being, I will not blindly buy into a political idea that has provided few details.
And lets not forget our Harvard ivy league hot shot wall street banksters that apparently didn’t see this coming, so much for higher education when money is involved.
The smart move would be to FIX the existing healthcare programs, medicare, medicaid, V.A. care, that are ripe with fraud and excess, fix those problems FIRST, THEN overhaul heath care. When we see our new goverment is willing to prove they can handle the existing problems responsibly, we can line up behind this plan.
I don’t think that’s asking too much. Polititcians have been screwing the public for too long, now we want proof it won’t happen again with our health care.
Posted by: Edward | August 5, 2009, 2:56 am 2:56 am
What people don’t realize is that they are already paying a high price for our healthcare in the form of the employer contributions and inflated prices by providers trying to recoup costs related to the uninsured. The worst case scenario is that extra taxes are exactly offset by higher pay and lower costs, the most probable outcome is that improved efficiencies will result in a better system that covers everyone and actually saves money.
Posted by: Eddix | August 5, 2009, 3:12 am 3:12 am
OK – TWO CANCER PATIENTS, EXACTLY THE SAME. One from USA and the other from any other country in the world – doesn’t matter where. Which one lives longer? EVERY STUDY CONCLUDES THAT IT WILL BE THE PATIENT FROM THE USA. A lot of you guys are quoting stats that suggest life expectancy rates are longer in some other countries, especially in Europe and you are correct about that, BUT, THE PRIMARY REASON IS THAT OUR MURDER AND ACCIDENT RATE IS MANY TIMES THAT OF OTHER COUNTRIES. THOSE STATS MUST BE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION, BUT OF COURSE LIBS IGNORE THEM.
Posted by: Manitu | August 5, 2009, 3:32 am 3:32 am
THE OBAMA HEALTH CARE IDEA IS DEAD. WHEN CONGRESS GETS HOME ON BREAK THEY WILL BE FACING A “SLEEPING GIANT” WHO WANTS ALL THIS SOCIALIST STUFF STOPPED. IT HASN’T WORKED IN EUROPE AND IT WON’T WORK HERE. WITH 2010 AND 2012 IN MIND, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WILL SUDDENLY WAKE UP. REMEMBER, “THE BIGGER THE FED, THE SMALLER THE INDIVIDUAL.” A CONCEPT THAT THE THE LIBS ARE NOT CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING.
Posted by: Tommy | August 5, 2009, 3:43 am 3:43 am
Any incumbent who believes this backlash is ‘manufactured’ does so at his own risk.
Posted by: marylou | August 5, 2009, 5:02 am 5:02 am
Richard Army and Tom DeLay with the help and support of Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Phil Gramm, Newt Gingrich, possibly John McCain, definitely Richard Cheney, Liz Cheney, McCain’s daughter, and other GOP losers will do anything illegal to get back into power. They are armed, deadly, and very dangerous. The recruit for Timothy McVeigh types to carry out their agendas regardless of children being collateral damage. Be fair warned of GOP. Beware. Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, Muslims, become vigilant in fighting back againsts GOP. They want you DEAD! They want you to be oppressed, suppressed, and depressed by being slaves to them. GOP Republicans are faux conservatives. They have mistresses, multiple marriages, believe in polygomy, incest, rape, control over everyone who aren’t like them (have you seen Richard Army and Tom DeLay — ugly. OMG — Tom DeLay’s wife’s hair is out of the 50s. Get a clue. They are from the PAST. They are computer illiterate. Be forward thinking — Go Democrats!!!! 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026, 2028, 2030, 2032 and beyond.
Posted by: Elle | August 5, 2009, 6:55 am 6:55 am
My anger is not manufactured and it is intensified by the White House saying that it is.
Posted by: Chevas | August 5, 2009, 7:12 am 7:12 am
GOP Republicans abuse their children by not paying their court ordered child support payments. They defy authority. They are extreme abusers and are armed, deadly, and extremely dangerous. Be fair warned.
Posted by: Elle | August 5, 2009, 7:12 am 7:12 am
My anger isn’t manufactured. How dare they? I am calling my congresspeople to tell them of my disgust over the stimulus, cap and trade, and the health care bill. If there is a town hall, I will go. I guess that makes me an extremist too. What a bunch of jerks.
Posted by: Va mommy | August 5, 2009, 8:01 am 8:01 am
This administration never thought that the same people who go to work everyday would ever get tired of being taken advantage of by our elected officials. They really want to say, aren’t you people supposed to be at work. Just last year community organizing was a nobel profession and it was good to GET IN THEIR FACE. The workers must not have gotten the official Obama memo that speaking out for yourself is no longer acceptable.
Posted by: ubu1991 | August 5, 2009, 8:23 am 8:23 am
“Manufactured?”
Actually, I agree that the anger that is brewing all across America is “manufactured.” But not the way the White House is using that term. The White House apparently believes that it is just a “few” individuals stirring up the “pot” and busing a few angry people to the townhall meetings.
Instead, I believe that it is the ACTIONS of the Left and President Obama that is “manufacturing”–as in CREATING–the anger. Their RAMMING of legislation without having been read by members of Congress OR EVEN the President. Their announced plans to steal from the wealthy and redistribute the wealth. Their attempt to federalize the financial system. Their taking over parts of the auto industry. Their demonization of Corporate America and the Free Market. And now their attempt to “overhaul” the nation’s healthcare system by eliminating Individual Freedom, destroying the private sector, and replacing it with a single-payer system controlled by and run by the federal government. THAT is what has created this anger.
But just wait! There is a lot of anger yet to appear. When Congress starts talking about raising taxes on those making less than $250,000, look out.
There are a lot of polls out there. President Obama may still have a 54.1% job approval rating (Real Clear Politics poll average), but the congressional job approval is just 30.6%, and only 38.9% of the American people believe that the direction of the country is going in the right direction.
Next year is an election year. And if the current direction of the country doesn’t change, there may be a whole lot of changes in Congress!
Posted by: James Danley | August 5, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am
This is a great socio-political fight, mostly based on patent ignorance and lots of deeply entrenched social and personal emotion. What comes out of it probably won’t be a well-thought out solution, and will have lots of faults.
Health care reform and change is inevitable, and whatever comes out of it will also continure to reform and change. This is how our great American republic operates. It ain’t pretty, it doesn’t work perfectly. But, it seems to function pretty effectively compared to other systems and governments.
Posted by: joe | August 5, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Skip: “It’s already been demonsrated that people are much more likely to get screenings and check-ups that catch potentially fatal conditions if they have health insurance. I can’t produce an actual number of those who do not catch cancers and such till it’s too late because they don’t have insurance but when the number of people without insurance is in the multi-millions I’m willing to bet it’s significant.”
That’s a suppostion on top of a supposition. The FACT is the US has the highest rate of cancer survival and longevity compared to any of the single payer nations.
Remind me again, what is the crisis?
Posted by: Woody | August 5, 2009, 9:08 am 9:08 am
Writing from Canada, I recognize problems in the US health system but mainly that there’s a lot right about it. It’s where Canadians who can afford it, go when they face unacceptable wait times or need treatment not available here.
The US is also where most of the world’s new drug research & other medical development is done and I am quite sure that the entire world will be noticeably worse off if Mr. Obama has his way.
So I’M angry about the situation. Note that the state will gain control of a huge chunk of GNP. Worry.
Posted by: Brad Brzezinski | August 5, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am
I can’t believe the remark about the GOP not paying their child support payments, when welfare pays (ie the taypayer), all the support for the Obama supporters.
Posted by: lyineyes1956 | August 5, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am
“That’s a suppostion on top of a supposition.”
It is not. It’s in my opinion a very solid supposition [do you want to make the bet?] based on the FACT that people do not tend to get screened for cancer etc if they don’t have insurance and the FACT that it is much more likely to survive cancer if it is detected early, and is no more of a supposition than trying to claim our cancer survival rates will go down or fatalities will increase if everybody has health insurance.
Posted by: Skip | August 5, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am
I think the administration is just a little apprehensive that the right is organizing in the same fashion that they do, so they have to come out and discredit the organizing. Funny, Moveon.org and a host of other leftist organizations do the exact same thing, AND brag about it, but its totally acceptable. It’s always been much harder to get conservatives organized because they typically have lives, jobs, and responsibilities to tend to. If it’s growing organized, that should be a scary thing to the left and obviously it is since their tactic is to attack it. The fact that they pay any attention to it at all indicates they are frightened.
Posted by: KR | August 5, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am
I’ll bet the “manufactured” anger will be in reproduction in the 2010 elections.
Posted by: beetfeet | August 5, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am
I attended my first town hall meeting. I called my congressman and asked his office when he would have a town hall and was informed it would be at the local vfw. I went ALONE, on my own accord, I am angry yes, and I met dozens of other like minded middle aged folks who are sick and tired of this shove down. What a pathetic attempt to marginalize decent Americans. Fascists. And EVERYONE should be alarmed over Obamas response to opposition.
Posted by: mjishernameo | August 5, 2009, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Manufactured, hired by somebody?
I am sure my brother would be interested to hear that! He is among those hwo showed up at one such town hall meeting in his city over the weekend to make sure our Representative is doing everything he can to oppose this idiocy. He is no part of any advocacy group, neither is he on anybody’s payroll.
I’d say that the whitehouse and the other Dems are saying this because it is what they do; so they can’t imagine it could be different where the republicans are concerned. So as far as they are concerned its phony, just like theirs.
Posted by: Stanley | August 5, 2009, 10:34 am 10:34 am
so, as slick willy says.. “the GOP are at it again.! NO KIDDIN! UNLESS you are wealthy and have enjoyed the bush years, ya should not be foolish enough to listen to the GOP phoney machine. CAN YOU SAY KARL ROVE??? jeez, it is so obvious that the repugs want control back so bad they will do and say anything. they don’t want the health care to work because they failed at even ATTEMPTING to reform this screwed up health care system! they don’t care if the economy rebounds because they will look like the failures that they are if it does! REMEMBER WHO GOT US IN THIS MESS and WHO was at the helm to create it! BUSH AND HIS REPUBLICAN CRONIES, THATS WHO!!! repubs LOVE to throw rocks and then look side to side and say “WHO THREW THAT ROCK” WAKE UP!
Posted by: craig | August 5, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Craig wrote: “REMEMBER WHO GOT US IN THIS MESS and WHO was at the helm to create it! BUSH AND HIS REPUBLICAN CRONIES, THATS WHO!!!”
So the Democratic lead Congress the past two years; the Democratic governors; the Democratic controlled state legislative bodies; not to mention the Democrats’ socialist campaign rhetoric of wealth redistribution and having the wealthy to pay for healthcare had no effect on our economy?
Posted by: James Danley | August 5, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am
The White House is doing a pretty good job on it’s own in manufacturing the anger that is being expressed at these Town Hall meetings. I want them to back up this claim of insurance companies and their lobbyists paying people to show up or busing people to these meetings. I would find that distasteful in the same way that I found it distasteful when Acorn and other “non-partisan” groups bused only democrats to the polls and when those same groups committed voter registration fraud on a massive scale.
Posted by: Jason | August 5, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
We now know why President Obama wanted the Healthcare Reform bill passed before Congress left for their August break.
I guess President Obama can now add “healthcare” to his previous rant: “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to (THEIR HEALTHCARE,) guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Posted by: James Danley | August 5, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am
From what I’ve seen, the folks angered at the arrogant Democrats at these Town Hall meetings are real people, not ACORN pod clones. Yet, even if they were, it’s about time Conservatives used some of the tactics of their enemy, ie, ACORN rent-a-mobs, to intimidate their opponents.
Posted by: Larry | August 5, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
I think even if the economy makes a miraculous turn around and the housing market improves so I am not upside down on my house anymore, the democrats have irreparably harmed themselves by taking off the moderate veil and revealing themselves as the hard left partisans they are. This country is still a center right leaning country and they will make those blue dog democrats rue the day they voted with Pelosi and Reid. 2010 and 2012 will be a return to a balanced Congress and possibly even a conservative in the White House.
Posted by: Jason | August 5, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Jason, and don’t forget about the way President Obama’s Justice Department dismissed the voter intimidation case against the Black Panthers! Although “distasteful” isn’t exactly the word I would use. “Outraged” is a better word to describe my reaction in that situation.
Posted by: James Danley | August 5, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am
“What is your proof that lack of insurance corrolates with an increased incidence of cancer?”
Now now! Please don’t try and make it sound like I’m claiming that having health insurance helps prevent cancer. I’m saying that people will be more likely to die from cancer-if they get it-if they don’t have health insurance because they will be less likely to be screened for it. I don’t claim to be an expert on anything, I like to argue about what the numbers mean, not what the numbers are so I don’t generally quote statistics and figures easily obtainable on Google though I have absolutely nothing against those who do, so if you search ‘health insurance cancer screening’ it’s easy to find studies that conclude that people without health insurance are not tending to go for cancer screenings as much as people who do have insurance.
Posted by: Skip | August 5, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am
I am opposed to this Government ran health care proposal, and had I known about it, would have attended the rallies in Tx. The people are angry because they are being ignored, not because they are Republican “pawns”, as Mr. Doggett and the Whitehouse would have you believe. I have tried to get feedback from my representative, Mr. Doggett, to no avail. When asked- if the majority of the people he represents opposed this bill, would he vote for it anyway. He answered he would. That’s why the people are angry. This nonsense about the “mob” being orchestrated is just that — nonsense!
Posted by: jean | August 5, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
From the WH web site:
“There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help.”
Posted by: 1939 | August 5, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Skip,you said”people will be more likely to die from cancer-if thy get it-if thy don’t have health insurance…”I would like you to quote one peer-reviewed study that proves this.You have made an allegation-now support it with facts.You say that you are not an expert,yet on previous posts you claimed that statistics prove that medical care is better in other countries.Since you like to mention statistics I again ask:”what is a t test?”What journals are you willing to quote about death rates of uninsured patients?
Posted by: Nephron | August 5, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
This is the same Nonsense that was
said about the “tea parties”!
According to the President Obama
and his supporters anyone who disagrees
with his policies is a right-wing
nut-job, unruly mob, bussed in
Republican operative!
I think the president should stop
using the tactics of his ideological
buddies, the Castro Brothers,
Daniel Ortega, and Hugo Chavez and
start listening to the American People!
The American People will not be
Marginalized by name-calling and
bullying tactics.
If you want Healthcare Reform passed
the “public option” must be removed!
Deal with it!
Posted by: reaganfan | August 5, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
What a joke. The Republican National Committee and the Republican Party in general is amongst the most ineffectual organization in existence. It has no power to move people to protest this disastrous takeover of 1/7th of the economy, although the overreaching of the Democrats may give it that power in the next election. These reactions are personal, individual, and motivated responses to a government that ignores and abuses us like some kind of tyrant.
Posted by: Bobert | August 5, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
It’s called “community organizing,” also known as “speaking truth to power.”
If a “public option” becomes law, the 2010 election will be a referendum on it, and the Democrats in the House will be skinned alive (they already trail by five points in the generic ballot).
This is gonna be great!
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | August 5, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Obama and the Pelosi led socialist democrats and lost touch and all credibility with the american people. Any one with half a brain can see the anger in the town hallers was grass roots to the max. It is a total mis-read by the socials to catagorize these people as fringe right wingers or involved in some kind of conspiracy. The democrat party has moved to far to the left and is trying to shove their socialist agenda down the american people’s throat, who are not buying the BS. We must defeat these UN huggers bills now and then boot these non american’s out of office in the next elections.
Posted by: spawn44 | August 5, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Simply stated, the White House and the Democrats in Congress are lying.
Posted by: Skipppy Gates | August 5, 2009, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
It’s amazing how scared the liberal Democrats are of the majority of people in this country who do not want socialized medicine in this country. Anyone who disagrees with them, or has the audacity to protest is a loon, in their opinion. If we conservatives weren’t having an effect, they wouldn’t bother commenting. The media is all over this because they too are under the spell of our socialist president who wants to take away our personal freedoms and have the government tell us what we can and cannot do regarding our own personal healthcare. There is no way I am going to just stand by and see my country destroyed by this man and his liberal lap-dog cronies. I have called my representatives, emailed, signed petitions and will continue to do so until Obama and this idiotic Congress get the message that the VAST majority of Americans do not want this abominable healthcare initiative they are trying to shove down our throats!
Posted by: Kathleen | August 5, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
“A Government that is big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.”
(Not sure which Founding Father
said this in 1770s but is surely
true)
Also from the Cloward-Piven Strategy to
“hasten the fall of capitalism”: “over-
loading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands thus pushing society into crisis and economic colapse”. This sounds like what is going on – in this country by
“organized” associations to destroy our nation and liberties.
Posted by: SouthPointeView | August 5, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
The town hall meetings are reactionary, in the sense that vomiting is the reaction to swallowing poison.
I can only hope some Republican – hell, even some Democrat – embraces the chance to become very popular with America instead of its governing class, and hops to the front of the overwhelming majority of the country that has belatedly rediscovered a commitment to keeping government out of our lives.
Posted by: bgates | August 5, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
And the Liberals keep on alienating Americans instead of uniting.
Posted by: Jeff | August 5, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Oh, don’t forget that the DNC “Democratic National Socialistic Party of the Comrades” told their party members what to say over the summer break. Remember, they have to keep in line with politburo stance.
Posted by: Jeff | August 5, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
So tell us ABC, are you bought out hacks? Have you fell so far you can only see conservatives as “Unruly” “Mob”, are you so deceived that you hippies of the 60′s who wanted your voices heard now know the power in that dissent. Now you don’t want conservatives doing what you did in the 60′s because you understand the effectual fervency of what you yourselves did.
Posted by: Jeff | August 5, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Of course. When liberals protest, it’s “patriotic dissent” organized by a “grassroots” campaign. When conservatives protest, it’s “manufactured anger” organized by the GOP. They said the same of the Tea Parties that took place earlier in the year. In other words, one can only legitimately protest if one is protesting in favor of the liberal agenda.
As a conservative, I won’t be discouraged as I know most Americans are conservatives at heart, and will not standby as liberals take over our healthcare system and our country with their flawed socialism. Liberals can continue to ignore and minimize their detractors for now, but the American people will be heard come 2010 and 2012. I’m looking forward to it!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 5, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
It is always the ordinary people that get messed over. Why can’t this administration accept that the people do not want this plan in its present form. To many unanswered questions and noone seems to have any answers.
Posted by: mj | August 5, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I’ll take health reform
“if” all congress is put on the same plan as us or we are given the Congressional health care plan like they and President receive.
Posted by: Jeffh | August 5, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
“it’s “manufactured anger” organized by the GOP. They said the same of the Tea Parties that took place earlier in the year.”
They were.
Witness the difference in attendance between the endless FoxNews promoted Tea parities and the ones that relies on more traditional grassroots organizing.
Posted by: Ryan C | August 5, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
“If a “public option” becomes law, the 2010 election will be a referendum on it, and the Democrats in the House will be skinned alive (they already trail by five points in the generic ballot).”
The public option is one of the most popular parts of the healthcare plan
Posted by: Ryan C | August 5, 2009, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Anonymous: “When conservatives protest, it’s “manufactured anger” organized by the GOP. They said the same of the Tea Parties that took place earlier in the year.”
Ryan C: “They were.”
That’s your opinion. Of course, I disagree. I alone can prove you wrong, though. I am not affiliated with or directed by the GOP, and I strongly considered showing up to one of the Tea Parties. It wasn’t for lack of agreement with their message that I didn’t. Many other conservatives and independents supported the Tea Parties without GOP intervention as well. Even if any of us were influenced by the GOP, that isn’t an excuse to discredit our message which is valid regardless.
The liberal strategy is clear — disrespect, discredit, and shutdown any speech opposing the liberal agenda. Old playbook, new players.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 5, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Yeh the “Open Minded” “tolerant” Liberals want to negotiate with Iran and make friends with Chavez. Please don’t offend anyone, but Americans with a different opinion are delegitimized. Wow that’s real open minded. Liberals can’t win in the battlefield of ideas so they attack their opposition.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
This administration (and the cheerleading media) is starting to become a national embarrassment. My fear is that they are trying to put out a small fire with a barrel of gun powder by asserting the mischaracterization that somehow public antipathy to government-run health care is an extremist-Republican-manufactured campaign.
Au contraire, mes amis, au contraire. This colossal mistake will only spark additional blow-black (not buy-in) and is a childish antic, sophomoric at best. As a brand marketing consultant I was shocked to see White House communications director and former ABC News correspondent, Linda Douglas, attempt to defend a video of Obama explaining his desire to eliminate private insurance.
Not only is such a ploy impotent for the cause, it has exactly the same affect as Burger King submitting a press release to describe that many of their kitchens are dirty and may lead to food poisoning. Unfortunately, the White House is now reduced to a troupe of condescending dilettantes, and their performance is a gut-wrenching train wreck.
Posted by: Tom Crandall | August 5, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
My anger is hardly manufactured. I am one of these “so called” right-wing extremists, even though I’m a registered Democrat. I’ve been to four tea parties now, not because someone paid me to go, but because I was angry enough to show up on my own. I’ve been calling and writing my senators and representative non-stop (including reps outside my own district). All this is a first for me–never protested, never called my reps, never posted comments on news stories such as this one. I’ve outfitted my car with pro-freedom and anti-Obama bumper stickers, and for the first time in my life I will be donating to political campaigns and putting yard signs on my lawn. Oh yeah, and I’ll be re-registering as an independent.
You think you saw “change” in 2008? Well, it will be nothing like the change you are going to see in 2010 and 2012. You can count on it.
Posted by: AngryTaxPayer | August 5, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
The politicians of both parties have forgotten that they serve the people and not the other way around. It appears that the news media has also forgotten this fundamental aspect of America’s constitutional government.
Contrary to the left, the tea parties and now the town hall protests have no connection to the Republican Party. If you bother to check the facts, you will quickly see that Republican politicians were as pilloried as the Democrat politicians.
The 2010 elections, and for that matter the 2009 elections, will send a strong signal about the socialistic trends in the country. If the socialists win, expect unemployment to remain high and inflation even higher.
Posted by: Bob W. | August 5, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
OBAMAS ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT IS THE MOST AFUL THING TO HAPPEN TO THE UNITED STATES. PEOPLE WILL DIE, BABIES WILL DIE AND OUR LIVES WILL DIE. I HAVE WRITTEN OUR SENATORS, E-MAILED THEM, FAXED THE WHITEHOUSE, YOU NAME IT I HAVE JUST ABOUT DONE IT ALL. WE ARE INDEPENDENTS, WE DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. AND WE WILL BE READY FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION IN 2010. EVERYONE SHOULD GET READY AND VOTE OUT THE DEMOCRATS SO OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON. FOR ANY CHRISTIAN READING THIS WHO DOES NOT THINK HE OR SHE SHOULD GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS, THE BIBLE SAYS ‘JUSTICE, JUSTICE,YOU SHALL PURSUE JUSTICE. SO EVERYONE OUT THERE SHOULD FIGHT THIS EVIL GOVERNMENT THAT IS TRANSPIRING. REMEMBER THE OTHER DAY, EARTHQUAKES IN TENN, AND 4 OFF THE COAST OF MEXICO, NEVADA, MINN OR IT WAS MICH. IF YOU DID NOT REMEMBER THE EARTHQUAKES YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS, EARTHQUAKES ARE GOD’S CALLING CARD, WHICH YOU WILL REMEMBER IF YOU EVER READ OR HEAR OF ONE HERE IN THE STATES. I AM SURE GOD IS QUITE MAD AT OUR COUNTRY FOR ELECTING AN EVIL MAN FOR PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Maggie | August 5, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Remember when Cindy Sheehan had all those protests in Crawford Texas and the media was there to cover a couple dozen people and put that in our faces? Or how about when code stink is out there “protesting”, the media is all over that! 2010 and 2012 no more change! Enough of the socialistic tendencies! I hate liber – excuse me _ progressives or neo pros!
Posted by: John Dunbar | August 5, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
If you want “manufactured” anger, go back and study the last years of the Bush Administration. The Democrats “manufactured” anger against Bush through a big lie about the war and with the help against the media. And don’t say they didn’t. Their plan was outlined in 2003 in a Democrat memo from Ted Kennedy’s office. Then they used International Answer, a communist front group, the unions and other left-wing groups to bus in protestors and often paid them for their trouble. There were no spontaneous “anti-war” protests. They were all drummed up by the Democrats. And the Democrats know a thing or two about lies. That’s what they live on. And what Obama is now saying about these protests is just another big lie and propaganda from the despicable Democrats. Isn’t if funny that President Bush never came out and said anything about the protestors drummed up by the Dems. He just always said they had a right to protest, no matter what they were saying about him. But Obama is a thin-skinned fool who can’t take any criticism and thinks he’s God and above anyone disagreeing with him. It is very unpresidential for him to be doing what he’s doing — asking people to send in information to the white house about what fellow citizens are saying about his policies and calling people extemists and working from the white house to discredit people. What a jerk he is. The only “myths” about his healthcare plan are the lies he’s putting out about it. Every time he opens his mouth he lies or changes what he said about it before. Well, the truth is getting out about his lies and now he’s calling the truth a “myth.” I think he doth protest too much. I just can’t get over what a totally awful leader he is.
Posted by: Texas | August 5, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
You think the protests are phony? WAIT TILL WE VOTE!
Posted by: Gerald Newton | August 5, 2009, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
There’s something fishy in the White House! I’m in California and I can smell it from here! Maybe it’s time someone mentioned the I word. Impeach the little dictator!
Posted by: Gerald | August 5, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Liar, Liar, Liar!!!! The simple fact is the American people are fed up with Washington. They are completely out of touch with what everyday citizens in this country experience while they frivilously spend OUR hard earned money!! I wanted an option on the 2008 election to “Kick ‘em ALL out and start over”! I have a simple option for everyone out there in the next elections…DO NOT VOTE A SINGLE INCUMBENT BACK IN!!! Doggett wouldn’t listen last week, but he will get the message loud and clear when election time comes!!
Posted by: MikeNTX | August 5, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
If this is all “manufactured”, then why has Obama emailed his millions of supporters to get in the faces of the ‘too-well dressed kooks’?
I have read much of the bill and what I hear from both the President and Congress are disinformation at best and probably outright lies.
Some won’t learn til their parents are being denied treatment and given pain pills as Obama suggested in one of his press conferences.
Posted by: TexGent | August 5, 2009, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Filthy maggot swill. And “Law Enforcement” enables these bastards.
Posted by: Mark | August 5, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Change you Believed in Huh !! That’s what all the CommeCrats voted for, right. Welcome to the X USA !! You ain’t seen nothing yet Baby!! Watch. The Comme Kid ( obama ) is in Control, now. Bummer for us Red blooded God fearing Americans. Vote out Commie’s in 2010 and vote in Palin 2012. She’s a True American !! Unlike obama.
Posted by: Paul Rogers | August 5, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
I’d say it’s manufactured anger alright…
Manufactured by the Democrats in D.C.!
Posted by: AAAAANDRE | August 5, 2009, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
You guys got it wrong AGAIN. People aren’t being “talked into” being angry, they really are angry. This is grass roots, and this is real. ABC, you need to take yourself out of the news business and go do something else. You obviously don’t understand that there is a very real debate on this issue and that there is a large number, probably a majority, who disagree with this administration’s socialist agenda.
Posted by: j hayes | August 5, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
When Cindy Sheehan protested with her 10 followers you covered it ad infinitum, giving Cindy’s comments a sympathetic ear. Now tens of thousands show up to protest the Obama Administration, and you don’t even show up to tell the story? Get a clue.
Posted by: j hayes | August 5, 2009, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Let us for the sake of argument agree that the grassroot rage is being used by the Republican Party. So where’s the problem? That’s called–ready for this?–politics.
Equally to the point is the way in which people like Tapper and news agencies like ABC have shown themselves ever since Bush became president in 2000 that they are in the business of pushing their own political agenda, and are no longer worthy of being respected as professional journalists. May ABC disappear from the face of the earth.
Is that a vote “negative” on whether I feel that ABC is worthy my attention. You people work on that for a while, and then you’ll see that the answer is–ready for this?–no.
Twits
Posted by: Michael McCanles | August 5, 2009, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
I’m as angry at the GOP as I am the Dems. If anyone is “manufacturing” my anger, it’s 100% Made in Washington DC. I’m fed up with gov’t spending, fed up with rushed legislation that no one’s bothering to read, let alone discuss, fed up with gov’t taking control over EVERYTHING, and I’m fed up that the people whose job it is to represent me, are not really even listening. And now some have gone so far as to accuse me of “faking it”?!! AND the administration actually endorses this viewpoint! I’m convinced there’s only one way to ever get through to them… VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Scott | August 5, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
WE WILL NOT BE SOCIALIZED WITHOUT A FIGHT,AND THEY KNOW THAT.
THEY WILL PUSH US INTO A POSITION THAT THEY CAN USE THE MILITARY AGAINST US. THESE PROPLE HAVE LOATHED THIS COUNTRY AND ITS FREEDOM FOR DECADES AND THEY USE SO MANY USEFULL IDIOTS BOTH DEMS AND REPUBS TO DO THEIR BIDDING. WE WILL GO TO ASHES INORDER TO REBUILD THIS REPUBLIC ONCE AGAIN. TO HELL WITH THE POLITITIONS TAKE THEM ALL DOWN NO MORE LIFETIME POSITIONS MOST ARE CORRUPTED WITH MONEY AND POWER, AND THEY DO NOT FEAR THE SHEEPLE FOR THEY HAVE BEEN REELECTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THIS TIME IT WILL BE THE END AND A NEW BEGINING AFTER THE HARDSHIPS THAT THEY WILL ENDURE WITH US. CLEAN EM, STACK EM, BE READY TO USE EM. GOD BLESS THIS ONCE PROUD LAND
Posted by: DAN | August 6, 2009, 12:22 am 12:22 am
I am a Democrat, I have a small Business and the Healthcare takeover by the Progressives is out of control. I have assigned a employee of mine to watch all ABC programs and provide me with the names of the sponsors and advertisers. A boycott of all ABC sponsors will begin in the morning. You guys support the destruction of my Healthcare, I will boycott your sponsors. It is pay back time to ABC and Disney!
Posted by: DetectiveDick | August 6, 2009, 12:50 am 12:50 am
The dismissal of the People’s expressing fury at the townhall meetings is another example of the overall strategy the “leadership” is using: do whatever suits the international corporations, dems and republicans, dismiss any opposition, and lie yourself to re-election.
This is all part of the larger plan – everyone follow along with these groups if you can: Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburg, and the inner circle of the big banks.
We are all as “sovereign Americans” being obsoleted, in process right now. The media has been taken over (ABC, CNN, Knight Ridder, etc) to control the information. The constitution has been effectively suspended. The borders have been opened up. The banks have been given absolute control.
I was two days late on a credit payment and Chase bank increased my interest rate to…29.9%. That’s right. The banks are destroying our economy by causing massive defaults of businesses with loan-shark interest rates. They have been given the green light to do so by our “leaders” – the leaders that have NO allegiance to this American nation.
This health care thing is another part of the plan. When you read the components of it, you can see that it is the biggest usurping of our freedoms ever. Our very ability to stay alive will be controlled by nameless “CZARs”.
We must fight, and I mean fight, now if we want our nation to remain free. That’s it.
Posted by: Alan | August 6, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am
There is nothing manufactured about our anger. Our local Tea Party has exactly $1.72 in the donation jar. We are not coordinated by anyone. We also are made up of Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitution Party, and Libertarians. We are angry constituents with a legitimate concern over the direction of our country. We are made up of young and old. We don’t like what Obama has done or what Bush did with our tax dollars and we are T.axed E.nough A.lready. We are growing everytime we have a new meeting. We are going to DC in September and we will continue calling and writing our Congressmen and Senators whether they have a town hall or not. We will not just go away even if you report us to the White House snitch website.
Posted by: Dawn | August 6, 2009, 1:20 am 1:20 am
This is like Barbara Boxer saying those who are too well dressed are not legitimate protesters.
What the politicians do not realize is, this isn’t about whether someone is a democrat nor republican. These people are AMERICANS who are ANGRY! Spinning it only shows their true colors. THEY DO NOT CARE WHAT THE VOTERS WANT!
The number of those who continue to blindly support those who “represent” them is dwindling.
Posted by: Sustainablehome | August 6, 2009, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Am I living in Nazi Germany? Is this 1938? When you slap someone do they get mad? When you trip them and make them fall in a pile of horse crap do they get upset? This anger has indeed been manufactured. By Obama and his pirate thugs.
Figure this out. We don’t want Washington in charge. Why? They screw everything up and are, as a whole, corrupt. As a Med Student I have a very strong interest to oppose the evil government influence on how medicine is practiced. I certainly don’t want Washington ordering me to perform evil procedures like infanticide/murder/aka abortion. And I certainly don’t want to kill my patients by giving them pain pills. Consider this. If such laws are passed, I know for sure that this country will have one less doctor. My conscience and fear of God will cause me to have to leave to another country where people don’t seek to murder their own people.
Get a clue!
Posted by: Scott | August 6, 2009, 1:43 am 1:43 am
What anyone who has been to any TEA party rally or any event should know is that for the people attending – it isn’t a Democrat or Republican thing…it is a politician thing. Our anger isn’t manufactured. It is directed at politicians who are not looking out for the good of the country or the people.
Posted by: David | August 6, 2009, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Once again it shows how the mainstream press is completely out of touch with mainstream America.
Posted by: Geoff | August 6, 2009, 4:56 am 4:56 am
If you want to see what the Far Left feels about the regular folks protesting, check out some of their web sites like The Daily Kos. They either don’t get it, or pretend they don’t get it, or get it and want to shut down the dissent. But I say, let the People speak! WE run the country, not the elitists and the Far Left.
Posted by: Logiker | August 6, 2009, 7:02 am 7:02 am
I’m a 70 year old grandfather and a veteran. The path that our President and all the phony poiiticians are putting us on is NOT what I served my country for. If the government cant run Social Security or Medicare without screwing it up how in God’s name does anyone think these bums in DC would be able to run any kind of health care reform???. And by the way –what’s with the 32 or was it 36 new “departments” that will be created–if this health care plan goes through?? The departments will be established to monitor this program and would be part of the “flow” of information between a patient and his/her doctor….ARE THESE PEOPLE NUTS IN DC? Obviously they way out of touch with the American public. Yes I would think the word IMPEACHMENT should be advanced more and more….between him and his 40+ CZARS — wht the hell is this RUSSIA?
Posted by: Picturetkr | August 6, 2009, 7:26 am 7:26 am
Rage cannot describe what I feel on a daily basis. Helpless, frustrated and disgusted are all emotions that come to mind watching these Goons use Chicago-style politics to railroad our beloved country into a socialist state.
Personally, I think this administration is using this to goad us into civil outcry. That way, they would have a legitimate excuse to use force against us. My only prayer is that when that day comes, our honorable men and women serving in our armed forces remember their oath and refuse to obey.
Posted by: JC | August 6, 2009, 9:37 am 9:37 am
“Manufactured anger”? That’s rich, coming from the party who supports and benefitted from ACORN’s manufactured votes.
Sorry, but we are angry. We are angry about the Stimulus bill, we are angry about Cap and Trade, we are angry about Cars for Clunkers, we are angry about this healthcare abomination. You see, the difference between us and the blind who follow to their deaths and ours, is that we are also educated.
Aside from the members of Congress who haven’t bothered to read this monstrosity, how many of those in favor of its passage have read it? I dare say the number is quite small. Contrast that to those of us who oppose it – how many have read it, or are reading it? I dare say that number is fairly large.
What the democrats, ABC and the rest of the mainstream media doesn’t want to admit, it that those of us who work to support this country are finding the time to speak up. Those mentioned have relied on the college kids and stoners far too long; now it’s the grown-up’ turn.
Posted by: Floyd | August 6, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Until we return to the constitution of limited govt, restore power to the states and the people. we will never control the dems/repubs that run the govt. Too much power corrupts no matter the political party. Our own
constitution states that if the govt is not serving of the people we have the power and right to remove the govt. Until we remove ALL of congress and
the president and replace them with TWO TERM MAX representatives, that must follow a balanced budget amendement, must read bills with no riders added will we ever be able to control got. Also, our reps must be vetted just like the FBI and CIA must be vetted otherwise you do not have access to our govt and our military secrets. Whos with me?
Posted by: andy thompson | August 6, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am
It defies explanation that they would call protestors, a manufactured astroturf!
Those saying this, are backed by ACORN, SEIU, George Soro’s funding all these groups, to get out and promote more and more freebies, and stick it to the ones that give jobs! They are the astroturf!
It defies logic that they would even think the protestors would be “astroturf”, when these politicians are out there everyday riling up those groups I listed!
The whole far-left is astroturf!
Posted by: bobc | August 6, 2009, 9:59 am 9:59 am
I’m embarrassed that a complete FOOL like Rep. Lloyd Doggett represents the great state of Texas.
We’ve joined the ranks of California with types like pelosi, boxer and feinstein.
Bet the ### is anti-2nd amendment as well
Posted by: CHris | August 6, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Funny the democrats don’t seem to bash the ACLU, GLAAD or Code Pink when they try to create an uproar at town hall meetings…
Posted by: Mattheius | August 6, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Well folks i would just like to say that the only things here that are “Manufactured” is 1 Their Manufactured left/right BS.
2 Their Manufactured bankers bailout.
3 Their Manufactured heath care.
4 Their Manufactured Flu pandemic.
5 Their Manufactured flu shots they are going to try to FORCE you to take.
6 Anything else that comes from your so called representatives is Manufactured.
But the anger from the people is not.
There is something they would really like you to forget folks and that is
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson.
Posted by: spectre | August 6, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Typical condescending attitude. It’s nothing to what you’ll experience when you need that expensive medical treatment.
Posted by: AbuBakerSmith | August 6, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
I think people are fed up with all politicians. I liken the town hall meetings to the antiwar demonstrations in the 60′s. People are tired of the BS. My guess this is only the beginning. They better bring out the National Guard and shoot granny!
Posted by: ahabdearab | August 6, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
I find it hard to believe it, I found some one dumber that Barbara Boxer. What are these guys smoking in DC any way?
Posted by: Dan Hayes | August 6, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Thank you for proving my point
Posted by: spectre | August 6, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Oh well more evidence of the typical Democrat politician who might as well be on another planet if he is so severely out of touch from reality! Seems like nearly the entire Democrat party is living in an atmosphere of total unreality. They could give a hang less what the public wants or what they think!
Posted by: Librtyship | August 6, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
It’s amazing how the White House can call anything “manufactured”. The majority of information released by the White house is manufactured, much like the President’s resume’, largely it is fake or at least without any real corroboration. It blows my mind that Obama can set up a spying organization in Israel to “control” the legal actions of Israelis in their own country, encourage Americans to “snitch” on each other regarding email opinions regarding the healthcare bills. We have a repeat of the 1930s in Germany occurring here and now. It is time to for Americans to stand up to Washington, and elitist media and say enough is enough.
Posted by: Wingsairboss | August 6, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
you’ll see how “manufactured” this anger is once we reach the tipping of our economy crashing and families having no means to support themselves… pile on crushing taxes for the lucky few who will have work and well… mr. obama and co… it will literally be pitchforks and torches marching to the white house.
Posted by: howard roark | August 6, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Quote from Hillary Clinton:
“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, ‘WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEBATE AND DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!’”
Is this what American peoples are doing right now?
Posted by: Tim | August 6, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Hysteria dominates this blog, eh? Healthcare should be a right, not a privilege. A public option will bring prices down among the private insurers, and provide access for those who are declined coverage due to “pre-existing conditions.” It will help stop the vastly expensive emergency room visits by the uninsured. You can keep your doctors and your coverage you have if you prefer. Your taxes won’t go up unless you are earning 250K/yr. If you’re lucky enough to be earning that kind of money, don’t worry! You’ll still be able to buy whatever you want whenever you want it.
Let’s have a dialogue about the issues and not resort to a lot of name calling and Obama bashing. He is our President.
Show some respect for the office of the president even if you don’t happen to respect the man. Healthcare will be reformed for the better this fall. It simply cannot go on the way it is. Surely you can see that, right?
Posted by: Arnie | August 6, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
It’s amazing how the White House can call anything “manufactured”. The majority of information released by the White house is manufactured, much like the President’s resume’, largely it is fake or at least without any real corroboration. It blows my mind that Obama can set up a spying organization in Israel to “control” the legal actions of Israelis in their own country, encourage Americans to “snitch” on each other regarding email opinions regarding the healthcare bills. We have a repeat of the 1930s in Germany occurring here and now. It is time to for Americans to stand up to Washington, and elitist media and say enough is enough.
Posted by: Wingsairboss | Aug 6, 2009 3:24:17 PM
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Hi Wingsairboss,
I pretty much agree with you. I’ve been trying to keep an eye on the Israel situation, and hadn’t heard anything along the lines you’ve noted… would be interested in any sources you could point me towards? Thanks.
Posted by: And Atlas Shrugs Yet Again | August 6, 2009, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Obama and his Chicago thugs need to get a clue. We, the People, 80% of us, are mad as hell, and we aren’t taking it any more! Manufacture that!
Posted by: Flyboy | August 6, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
I’m curious about just what facts and other information would convince Rep. Doggett that the anger is NOT “manufactured,” though I will readily admit that in my own case it certainly is. My ire was forged (manufactured) entirely under the supervision of Obama and his White House staff and the myriad minions who serve at his pleasure in the halls of Congress (who seem to have forgotten that they were sent to Washington to serve their constituents).
Posted by: Edmund Perry | August 6, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
When the next election comes around, these out of touch politicians are going to find out how real the people’s anger is.
Posted by: Sheri | August 6, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
The DNC and Obama regime are right as rain that these town hall uprisings are manufactured.
Obama, Pelosi and Reid began manufacturing them January 20th, 2009 with their phony BS about transparency, bill review, unsustainable debt monetization, bailouts, industry nationalization and otherwise looting the treasury with every freaking welfare or giveaway they can think of.
I don’t know if I’m watching the news or an ad for Publisher’s Clearing House.
BTW don’t forget to submit this rant to flag@whitehouse.gov
Posted by: Mad as Hell | August 7, 2009, 12:48 am 12:48 am
The outrage at this web site doesn’t appear “maunufactured”. It does however appear mean spirited, based on misleading half-truths and blind ideology. When the other side. ( The side that drove the bus over the cliff) doesn’t have solutions other than doing more of the same, they bash and they yell and they kick and scream like little girls and boys that aren’t getting their way. Well, I remember the days of surpluses during the Clinton years, I remember Iran Contra, the savings and loan crisis and a whole host of totally mismanaged republican tragedies foisted on this country. Just because you’re louder doesn’t make you insightful in a serious debate. It makes you part of the problem. Talk about lemmings!
Posted by: johnycantread | August 9, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm