ACORN Reacts

Just a wild thought here … maybe an independent investigation would be more appropriate? Let’s open up the books and follow the money. That would be a good start at going “to whatever lengths necessary to reestablish the public trust”.

In other words, “Please, please, stop looking into us, and please don’t analyze our organization so you won’t find out how udderly corrupt we are!”

Just a wild thought here … maybe an independent investigation would be more appropriate? Let’s open up the books and follow the money. That would be a good start at going “to whatever lengths necessary to reestablish the public trust”.
Posted by: Paul | Sep 16, 2009 4:18:47 PM
I absolutely agree, Paul. Any kind of investigation needs to be done by an independent group.
I also don’t think the average citizen has had this whole story explained to them enough to realize just how big this is. We are talking about fraud, corruption, illegal practices, informing other people how to conduct illegal practices “without getting caught”, and most certainly, immoral judgement. These things are happening, and are being allowed to happen, by the use of OUR TAX MONEY. That alone should draw the ire of ANYONE living in this country and paying taxes.
As I put in a blog last night, it took two “kids” a video/audio setup, and $1300 to expose ACORN. I don’t know about you, but it embarrasses me to know with all the “authorities” we have in this great country, it took 2 young people, willing to go to jail if necessary, to bring this mess to the forefront. It’s funny how their “doctored” videos got employees fired and now the group wants to transform themselves and get back the trust of the public. Hmmm….why would they need to do all that to gain back the trust…they didn’t do anything wrong, did they?

Let’s see… this oversite committee includes Podesta (now Van Jones’s boss), Andrew Stern, head of SEIU, and Henry Cisneros, corrupt politico from San Antonio (left public office in shame years ago for lying to feds about payments to his mistress). Boy, do I feel confident in this investigation.

look at their “independent council” many prominent Dems… like we’re supposed to trust them? why not a totally independent group? At least ABC has someone reading the posts. I posted at 2:15pm that Bertha Lewis declared Acorn wouldn’t provide loan info, etc. til they had this council do its evaluation.(I got my news re: Bertha, from FOX ofcourse) Like I said, glad to see that ABC is reading the posted comments and verifying that the posts are correct, and then reacting with a new story on Acorn. Again ABC to little too late… FoxNews is fair & balanced and broke this origina news several days ago…but Charlie Gibson laughed and said the “cable channels” need to cover this type of story re: Acorn.

Did anyone tell Charlie Gibson about this story yet? He’s been left in the dark side of the newsroom again. As we say in the south… Bless his heart!

i have always watched ABC, but no more.
In the last year i have seen ABC FILTER the news you WANT ME TO SEE.
Post-ACORN story’s absence of news on ABC I now realize how bad it really is.
I AM DONE.

ABC finally decides to mention something about the ACORN story and they decide to put it under the POLITICS theme. they couldn’t hide it any more. but still not a headline News.
Well since they consider this a political story why don’t they investigate the political connection of the corrupt organization , ACORN to …. OBAMA.. I guess they’ll wait until FoxNews does it for them.

IF OTHER READERS JOIN IN AND ONLY WATCH A NEWS STATION THAT IS FAIR AND UNBIASED
WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE BOTH SIDE OF AN ISSUE INSTEAD OF BEING BOTTLE FED WHAT THIS NEWS STATION WANTS US TO SEE.

AORN??? Why don’t you guys at ABC leave this story to the cable news outlets, okay? That’ll give Charlie more time to examine what the nation thinks about Kanye and Kate Gosselin’s hairstyle. Your “news” coverage is a joke.

If any of us would make a mistake on our taxes we would be at risk of being audited by the IRS.
I think there is enough doubt surrounding ACORN to to a full investigation and audit them and any and all organizations they hide behind.
RFK fought the corruption in big unions didn’t he?
Investigate them and audit them now. They are supposed to be helping the poor and disadvantaged after all. ACORNs actions do those persons they are trying to help NO GOOD.
THE U.S. GOVT NEEDS TO AUDIT AND INVESTIGATE THEM NOW!

“IF OTHER READERS JOIN IN AND ONLY WATCH A NEWS STATION THAT IS FAIR AND UNBIASED”
ROFLMAO!
I am starting to wonder if FoxNews interns post here.
A reminder
FoxNews averages 2M viewers in primtime.
ABC World news averages 7 million viewers.

The main stream media has been protecting ACORN for years. ACORN is a taxpayer funded agent of the DNC and is corrupt as the day is long. There’s been plenty to investigate, if only ABC, NBC and CBS had the integrity to report fairly.

ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis said. “…Right now, our nearly 500,000 member are working their hearts out for quality, affordable healthcarefor every American and to help stop the foreclosure crisis.”
Hunh? ACORN is pushing ObamaCare? How? Why are taxpayers paying for a program to promote the agenda of one political party? Did Bush hire 500,000 people to push his programs at the street level?

Unbelievable how this monster news item has just been picked up by ABC, MSNBC and CNN. A story of total corruption in our federal government. At first a complete denial and outrageous attempt to dishonor those telling the story, now a pledge to fully investigate and train their staff.
This mess cries for multiple investigations. The FBI, the IRS and state law enforcement from every locations should be sifting through every record still in storage to see how deep the roots of this corrupt and POLITICALLY SLANTED organization really is.
At the very least they should lose forever their tax exempt status, and face criminal charges wherever they are deserved.

Are you in the mainstream press STILL wondering why you’re losing ratings, viewers and market share? OK! Good, there you go!

I am embarressed to say I am from Il. and both of Il US Senators voted to NOT cut off funding for ACORN. Durbin and Burris…shame on you both.

ACORN (independent) investigative council:John Podesta, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend; Andrew Stern, and Henry Cisneros… what a joke!!

“ABC World news averages 7 million viewers.”
…And losing viewers… ”
Actually according to TV newser viewership has been up the last 3 weeks.
They tend to lose to NBC and Brian Williams.
Poor right wingers, all that fury and you guys are still just a small minority of cranks even though you attempt to portray your opinions as popular.

Along with old clueless Charlie, George Stephanopoulus in another interview admitted he had no idea of some of the extreme positions held by many of the Czars appointed by Obama. No wonder on Sunday Obama is appearing on This Week and the other biased news shows and avoiding Fox where he might actually face some real tough questioning.

Ryan C-
Quit boasting about ABC numbers and ratings. Not all viewers of ABC are libs. I know lots of people who view ABC because they don’t have cable. And all the ABC viewers that I know are solid conservatives. So that should throw your numbers off a bit. But keep dreaming, Ryan C.

You forgot Charlie Rangel, Chris Dodd, Geitner to look at the tax issues and Sandy Berger in charge of the documents.

This is it? This is the best you can do for reporting such a scandal? Charlie probably should retire early if he cannot find this story anywhere. Maybe you should watch Fox news too and get the important information that needs reporting. I know I do!

This will not be a legitimate investigation. How much more info do we need before there are external investigations? What is the White House afraid of coming out?

Just keep telling yourself that the disdainful comments are coming from disenfranchised right wingers. Nothing will make them more eager to be there when the poles open in 2010. It will be interesting to see how many of your college kids show up a second time to vote their favorite left wingers in twice.

Last time I checked, admitting to underage prostitution is a serious crime. Does Doug Giles, Senior Pastor of Clash Church know that his daughter Hannah admitted on tape to being a prostitute?
If ACORN had turned that tape over to the police first, then “Film maker” right-wing activist O’Keefe would be sitting in jail now, having already confessed to being a pimp for underage girls.
What exactly do right-wing extremists and their GOP politicians have against one of the largest organizations that assists minorities and poor folks with issues such as taxes, voter disenfranchisement, and census registration? Oh that’s right, it screws up GOP gerrymandering, voting fraud and tips the balance of power from the haves to the have nots. Guess that explains the constant demonizing. So many accusations, all thrown out in court as baseless….
Interesting that ACORN has “wasted” something like $50 million of our taxes over 20 years, compared to some right-wing front organizations that get double that annually.
Does it really surprise anyone that the folks that brought us Swiftboating, Birthers, Deathers, robocalls to voters to vote Dem on Nov 5th, and a neverending stream of fear-mongering, bigotry and easily debunked lies (throw enough BS on the wall and hope something will stick)… would pose as a hooker and a pimp. Considering the plethora of GOP hypocrites caught leading sleezy immoral double lives while claiming to be “family values” champions, this should surprise no one.
Seriously, maybe the police DO need to investigate O’Keefe and Giles for prostitution. Slap on the cuffs, confiscate their PCs, and lets see what kinda dirt they’re hiding…

Bushisms omits the full quote and context. Here it is taken from a CNN transcript when President Bush hosted President Arroyo of the Philippines. The discussion centered on terrorism, in the Philippines and elsewhere and the link with poverty:
“BUSH: And the poverty problem, listen, this nation is committed to dealing with poverty.
First, let me make it very clear. Poor people aren’t necessarily killers. Just because you happen to be not rich doesn’t mean you’re willing to kill.
And so it’s important to understand, you know, people are susceptible to the recruitment by these extremists, but I refuse to, you know, put a — kind of, put killers into a demographic category based upon income. After all a lot of the top Al Qaida people were comfortable, middle class citizens. And so one of the things you’ve got to do is to make sure we distinguish between hate and poverty.”
You guys are sooooo lazy.

This is all the news coverage that ABC can come up with? How about covering how ACORN got to this point! Just because another news agency broke the story and actually covered it does not mean it is not news. Wake-up ABC or all your view will leave as you are sleeping and protecting the lefties.

For weeks, big media like ABC,CBS, NBC, and the NY Times consciously refused to cover anything to do with ACORN, the key word being “consciously.”
Now that the scandal has completely exploded wide open, ABC is still resisting the urge to do journalism. You guys are pathetic. If it were not for Jake Tapper, ABC would have zero integrity left.
Don’t anybody from ABC even DARE call yourself journalists when Charlie Gibson giggles about not knowing about a scandal of epic proportions that has been breaking for weeks.
ABC should be exposing the rampant government corruption (Charlie Rangel, anyone) and government incompetence (pick a department, any department) day and night instead of doing another expensive interview involving Jon or Kate.
Sickening! ABC News, you are PATHETIC UNETHICAL organization where all your employees put personal politics above their hallowed journalistic duties to blindly protect Obama and the Democratic agenda.
I am sick of hearing about “right wing this” and “conservative that!!!!” Do your jobs and expose corruption, and rid this government of all the corrupting influences!! Even if it means firing your lazy, smug, and partisan butt-kissing reporters with people actually committed to doing journalism instead of tweeting like schoolgirls about eating ice cream with Obama!!!

Last time I checked, admitting to underage prostitution is a serious crime. Does Doug Giles, Senior Pastor of Clash Church know that his daughter Hannah admitted on tape to being a prostitute?
posted by Mark
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Mark, there is a difference between admitting to a crime and acting. What the filmmakers did is no different then what Sasha Baron Cohen does when he plays Borat …. they were acting, not admitting to a crime.
By the way “admitting to underage prostitution” is not a crime (unless you file a false report with police) … actually taking part in prostitution is the crime. People admit to things they didn’t do all the time. It’s a part of life. The Acorn woman in the video told her own lies. Should she be prosecuted for lying?

“Does Doug Giles, Senior Pastor of Clash Church know that his daughter Hannah admitted on tape to being a prostitute?”
You mean… they lied in an attempt to persecute an organization that helps poor folks in order to gain points for a political party that has a long history of stomping on the poor and middle-class???
How Christ-like. NOT. What was that about bearing false witness against thy neighbor? You know, about the only time Jesus actually talked about people being eternally condemned was when it applied to a rich man that ignored the plight of the poor beggar outside his gates. Guess you guys never made it past Leviticus.

Why did it take days and days before ABC news would report on this story. Why such a delay. FOX was right on it. It’s not the first time I’ve noticed ABCnews stalling to report on stories.

So, after intentionally ignoring this scandal and the disgusting behavior of ACORN, ABC decides they can no longer hide it. So what do they do, try to paint a picture that ACORN is sincere about “righting” themselves. This all of the sudden becomes front page headlines for ABC. Hey ABC, I dare you to even attempt to do one bit of original critical journalism on ACORN. You don’t have the ethical compass to even consider it, do you?

“Why did it take days and days before ABC news would report on this story”
This perhaps the 5th blog post on Political Punch dealing with ACORN since Sept 11th.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Has anyone asked themselves lately why we need to give millions of dollars to Acorn to register voters when cities, counties and states all maintain their own voter registration staff. In this day and age, it is easier then ever to register to vote … people can do it over the phone, over the internet, in person or through mail. Most states even spend their own money running registration blitzes to make it easier for people to know how to register.
Anyone who can pick up a phone book and dial a number can register to vote on their own. That in mind, why do we need Acorn going up to people in the parks or leaving WalMart trying to get them to register to vote?
Also, I’d like to see clear statistics on how many people Acorn actually helped with housing compared to foreclosure rates among Acorn clients. How many people who Acorn helps to buy a home ultimately foreclose. Who picks up those foreclosed houses? Most people when they buy a home, they work with the bank directly to get approved for a loan or their realtor helps them. This is another area where Acorn just seems to duplicate the services that others have traditionally provided, and I wonder what their success rate is with their clients successfully remaining in their homes over the course of 5, 10 or more years.
As for tax preparation services, during tax time, most churches and community groups come together, rallying their volunteers to provide free income tax preparation services. This is another area where Acorn just seems to duplicate what others are already doing without any government funds.

If ACORN was sincerely concerned about he behavior of their employees, they’d be thanking the journalists that uncovered it. Instead, they attacked the journalists and threatened them. A classic response of a corrupt organization.
If 2 young journalists can find this much corruption so easily, then any real investigation would uncover a wealth of problems and corruption.

Has anyone asked themselves lately why we need to give millions of dollars to Acorn to register voters when cities, counties and states all maintain their own voter registration staff. In this day and age”
Taxpayer money does not go to ACORN to register voters though campaigns have hired them to do so.

If ACORN had been affiliated with the republicans and not the democrats, ABC News and Charles Gibson would have been on the story like a dog on a pork rib. Likewise if the story had been about Sarah Palin.

“Does Doug Giles, Senior Pastor of Clash Church know that his daughter Hannah admitted on tape to being a prostitute?”
ROTFLMAO!!! Best post of the day! Funny stuff.

Someone said: “You mean… they lied in an attempt to persecute an organization that helps poor folks in order to gain points for a political party that has a long history of stomping on the poor and middle-class???”
How does Acorn help poor people? Seems to me that they help keep people poor. Show me some statistics of how many people Acorn has helped to climb out of poverty. How many scholarships have they given out? How many people have they tutored to read? How many people have they helped with job interviewing skills or babysitting services while single moms interview for a job? These are services that help poor people out of poverty … ironically, they are services that Acorn does not typically provide.
Anyhooo, any attempt to make this about Republicans is a lazy, flawed argument. It’s not about party loyalty or scoring points. It’s about wanting to see tax dollars spent wisely. Anyone can see that.

You would have to blind and dumb not see the corruption systemic in ACORN. Why do people want to defend this organization? Corruption is corruption, and it is systemic in Washington on both sides. People, this is our money being thrown down this and other rat holes. Outside of groups like the American Red Cross why do we support these organizations anyway? Let them stand on their own and then they can promote child prostitution and undocumented home loans on their own dime.
America wake up, corruption should NEVER be tolerated in our government…period!

40% of ACORN’s revenues come from taxpayer dollars. Do you know for fact how they spend their money, including the money from taxpayers?
And, while it is true that ABC via Tapper has posted on this blog about ACORN, the nightly news hasn’t touched it. Ol’ Charlies told you he didn’t even know about it. Get your facts straight.

We must get this process right, so the good work can go forward.”,..And what would that work be ? Setting up house for 12 and 15 year old girls ..These people need to be stoped and stoped NOW.

“40% of ACORN’s revenues come from taxpayer dollars.”
Gotta a source for that claim?

Okay right ACORN gets caught lying, cheating and stealing and people think they are capable of checking themselves? The panel consists of “a Soros hack, an SEIU thug, someone who pleaded to lying to the FBI, and a Kennedy.” What could go wrong?

Founded in 1970, the Catholic Campaign receives money from Catholics across the United States, mostly through second collections at the parish level or diocesan moneys budgeted from bishops’ appeals.
The U.S. bishops’ Catholic Campaign for Human Development aggressively funded ACORN as it undertook new voter registrations — mostly in states that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama needs to win.
Research revealed that the bulk of new ACORN voters were registered in electoral swing states, like Ohio and Michigan, while larger states received only a fraction of the organization’s attention.
Starting in 2007 as ACORN ramped up its voter registration drive, the Catholic Campaign also ramped up its support for ACORN, awarding ACORN 37 grants totaling at least $1,037,000 — more than double the dollar amount in any one of the previous three years.
Interesting, considering the Catholic position on abortion.

How nice! The founder of ACORN wrote a book! Now maybe we’ll really understand what they’re up to….(last time I checked, it was ‘world domination’ and ‘the end of capitalism’)

I just watched ABC News for the LAST TIME.
Charles Gibson a man I had respect for invoked the race card into this story. This is not about race and Gibson knows it is not. Yesterday he said he was not familiar with the Acorn scandal and today he puts up a story without all of the facts and adding some others.
Mr Gibson I have respected and trusted you for over 30 years. Tonight I found out I had trusted the wrong person. I believed you when you came into my living room. I am sadden – I will go away now wondering how many other times you have led me astray.
BTW I’m a white veteran that voted for President Obama and I worked with my old friend then US Representative Paul Simon on the Equal Rights Amendment. So please don’t try the race card on me it does not fit.
Goodbye (:

Obfuscation, redirection, point finger the other way, character asassination, anything but face the facts. Get a life, LoBamas!!

Right wing fascist codependents, want us to take focus off ACORN and take our attention off Obama, Rham, all the CZARs and their psychotic, delusional supporters.
GW Bush,WORST president ever–until now!!

“The Acorn story was presented as a bunch of racist conservatives were out to get an innocent organization.”
The truth hurts.

So far as I can tell, both parties suck. It’s a matter of degrees. And, the difference between GOPers and the Dems is that the right will routinely criticize its own however, the left continually makes excuses and defends its own as if, they are beyond reproach. I’ll be the first to state which ‘pub isn’t worth his/her weight in salt. jus sayin’. Integrity can then be measured.

The funny thing is, that these wideos were from last year. It has nothing to do with Republicans, because ACORN has been
the sworn enemy of anyone saying no to them for any reason. They live in the race card, it is their bread and butter. The main reason Jesse Jackson want to ‘cut off his n*ts’ was because he was told that he was no longer needed. It was ACORN from here on out.
ACORN has been convicted in 11 states, indicted in 17, had the whole nationwide Catholic Church pull all it’s funding in November of last year. Why? Massive housing loan fraud, and accounting fraud from donations. A pretty sad day to rip off people in a pew.
The RICO statue MUST be applied here, because they are a continuing criminal enterprise. businesses have been shut down for less, and people put in prison for much much less. Starting an underage sex-slave operation and helping them? Are you kidding me?
Every business knows that the level of employee service is set by the management. That is why certain companies succeed where others fail. It is glaringly obvious in their case, coast to coast, there is a culture of deceit, corruption, tax evasion and cheating on loan applications on a massive scae.
Investigate now, or the country pays the consequences later. They are not to be trusted with tax money in any form. Not mine at least and I pay them.

“40% of ACORN’s revenues come from taxpayer dollars.”
Gotta a source for that claim?
Consumer Rights League?
(Don’t kill the messenger; I just searched)

After watching these videos, I understand how the investigations into the sub-prime mortgage mess revealed landscapers, cleaning women and “performance artists” mysteriously making $300-400,000 dollars a year to qualify for homes (they were probably promised to sell a year later for double the profit).
Will someone connect the ACORN sources with the politicians? After all, I assume these applications have left a paper trail.

The CEO of Acorn should resign. Take some personal responsiblity. Obviously, you were unaware of what was going on. In the least, you should have known that you would the target of charlatans and imposters trying to smear your organization. That’s incompetence for you.

This sums up everything that is wrong with the media:
“ACORN has been convicted in 11 states, indicted in 17″
Of course, the truth is that Acorn hasn’t been convicted, or idicted, anywhere.
To see how absurd this media is, simply use the same logic in other circumstances. For example:
The Republican Party has been convicted of murder in four states, child molestation in 13 states, bribery in 28 states, and adultery in 59 states (apparently there aren’t any republicans in Hawaii)

“Right now, our nearly 500,000 member are working their hearts out for quality, affordable healthcare for every American and to help stop the foreclosure crisis.”
Help stop the foreclosure crisis??? When they’ve proven that they specialize in coaching pimps and prostitutes on how to obtain financing to buy a wh**rehouse?????
I’d bet money those leech mongers coached many of the current foreclosures on how to properly process a liar loan.
Spare me the rhetoric, Bertha. Blech.

You have GOT to see Jon Stewart skewering the media over this. Hilarious!! See “Media dam on ACORN videos has been breached” on American Thinker’s website.

…I’m sure we’ll be trotting out the old RACE horse on this one shortly…that’s usually the response. Oh, and you are telling me that ACORN would have started all these investigations without FOX News exposing this??? I guess the media must really think we are stupid.

“I know you already knew the source Ryan. Your little “game” is pretty transparent. You were just “hoping” for someone would take the bait.”
Hold on there Admiral Akbar….
Of course I knew the source.
That it was omitted was telling.
And yes someone gladly accepted the bait pointing out a front group for the credit card companies had produced the bogus statistic.

Those video clips show how adept ACORN is at facilitating crime. Of course the two Illinois Senators voted against cutting ACORN’s funding. But you have to understand that one (Durbin) is just an old party hack; and the other (Burris) would not be there if not appointed by an impeached governor. Yep, Illinois has good representation in the US Senate. What a joke.

Look, don’t they know that the whole thing was a frame-up? That the tapes were doctored? They were foolish to do anything before Fox released the “full tapes.” as some of the geniuses here have insisted they do.

“You have GOT to see Jon Stewart skewering the media over this.”
He can be pretty dang funny! But don’t right wingers usually say that only nimrods watch Jon Stewart?

“Sourcewatch: Founded by John Stauber, write and political activist. Author of several books including “Weapons of Mass Deception” and “Banana Republicans”. Sounds like a very impartial source. What’s next, citing Media Matters as an impartial source?”
Sourcewatch was founded by Sheldon Rampton.
Sheldon Rampton and Stauber wrote PR Watch together.

I stand corrected. The sponsor of Sourcewatch, the Center for Media and Democracy, was founded by John Stauber, aforementioned political activist. Sourcewatch’s founder Rampton is also CMD’s research director. Sounds like the two are interchangable to me.

ABC AND NBC do not deserve to use the airways. besides which, they are both jokes…newswise anyway.

“lol. Yeah it’s a GOP conspiracy to hurt poor people. lol”
Uh, no Sparky, it’s an old GOP TACTIC to suppress minority (Dem)voter turnout and skew the Census so they can carve up districts to their liking ala Tom Delay, or were you simply not paying attention the past 8 years?
Besides, all one needs to do to see how the GOP stomps on the middle-class is look at the bills sponsored and votes cast by GOP Senators and Reps over the past few decades to see how they oppose anything beneficial to anyone other than the top 1% income bracket.
Check it out Sparky – thomas.loc.gov. Simply ask yourself… “who benefits” from this GOP legislation. Assuming you have an IQ over 60, I’m pretty sure you’ll see a VERY distinctive pattern.

The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2009 8:23:27 PM
At the risk of stating the obvious.. Well, NO DUH! Birthers, Deathers, “Mooslim Nazi Socialist”. When have you ever seen the rightwing lunatic fringe actually state “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?”. Toss enough BS onto the wall and something is sure to stick. Right-wing nutjobs are a real embarrassment to the nation and what used to be REAL moderate conservatives.
The entire GOP appears to have been hijacked by extremists. I left the party years ago, about the time the Terry Schiavo fiasco made headlines.
Honestly, the world shakes it’s head in utter disbelief and disgust when it sees the sheer stupidity, ignorance, and folly of the Faux News crowd making so much noise…

Of course I knew the source.
That it was omitted was telling.
And yes someone gladly accepted the bait pointing out a front group for the credit card companies had produced the bogus statistic.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2009 8:57:41 PM
You haven’t proven it was bogus. In fact, you haven’t proven anything. All you’ve done is paste in a few paragraphs from information you found on the Internet to attempt to discredit someone.
By the way, because someone posts information that may or may not be true does not prove that the person lied. It only shows that they posted the information. Not providing a source is not telling at all.
In the past, I have asked for your source and your patented response is you’re not going to do all the work for me.
What IS telling, however, is that you seem not to care at all that ACORN may be wasting billions of dollars of taxpayers hard-earned money. You seem more concerned about your own short term pleasure of calling right wingers liars, stupid and racist.

“Way to contribute to the political discourse in America.”
Political discourse? Oh, I must have missed that. Did that pop up briefly between the Joe “You Lie” Wilson fiasco and the NutJobs on Parade in DC, complete with “Socialism” and “Bury Obamacare with Kennedy” posters?

“But you’re not really interested in doing that are you. Not really.”
Maybe when the GOP Congress you 53 million elected to represent you decides to stop playing childish games and starts helping clean up the mess from the past 8 years, I’d be interested.
Or maybe when the GOP actually discovers that there is more to America than bankers, CEOs, and billionaires.
Or finally, maybe when they stop manipulating hoards of insecure and ignorant folks with hot button issues and blatant fear-mongering, then and only then, will I be happy to treat Republicans and their leaders as adults. Act like children, you’ll be treated like children.

JPT:
There are only two more days this week to report on this annoying ACORN news story.
ACORN spokesman Scott Levinson is quoted last Friday (8/11) stating that the tape was doctored and this is all “gotcha journalism”. He went on to say that it is all a “right wing setup” and an “orchestrated sham”.
ACORN CEO Bertha Lewis said “our lawyers are looking to go after Mr. Okeefe” and that this is “modern day McCarthyism”.
Now that we know that all of those above comments from ACORN were accurate,
the media should not report and investigate for any more information and should not seek the truth?
It may be more effective for the media to have former President Jimmy Carter (elected in 1976 because of the Nixon fiasco) do some new interviews. Carter could change the subject from facts and say the ACORN problems are all because of racists republicans that do not like black people to have good jobs at ACORN. That definitely would change the subject so the media can cover some more entertaining news.
Charlie Gibson could take a long weekend too and go back on his boat this Friday…

Maybe when the GOP Congress you 53 million elected to represent you decides to stop playing childish games and starts helping clean up the mess from the past 8 years, I’d be interested.
Or maybe when the GOP actually discovers that there is more to America than bankers, CEOs, and billionaires.
Or finally, maybe when they stop manipulating hoards of insecure and ignorant folks with hot button issues and blatant fear-mongering, then and only then, will I be happy to treat Republicans and their leaders as adults. Act like children, you’ll be treated like children.
Posted by: Jackie | Sep 16, 2009 10:39:25 PM
So now you’ve changed your focus from the nut jobs in the street to those in the Congress. What about the 52.95 million people that might engage you in a civil debate? Don’t they deserve a chance? And how do you know they all voted for Republican congressmen?
You think the bankers, CEOs, and billionaires just went away when the Dems moved in? How naive are you anyway? Besides most liberal politicians probably started out as trial lawyers or were from old money. They are only interested in using hoards of insecure and ignorant folks as victims to win elections. They’ve had 50 years to help them and what have they actually done for them? Nothing.
Your party acts the same way. It’s your perspective that’s different. It’s just that everything they do you see as warranted and justified.
There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides for the past 8 years. It’s been well documented. But I’m sure you won’t admit to any culpability. Liberals never do. That’s why your party can’t be reasoned with.
Ever hear of the civil war? This is very similar. The country is divided and that may never change. The only thing that came close to bringing us all together was 9/11 and that was short lived. Unfortunately, Bush going into Iraq stopped whatever chance the country had of repairing its differences. And these have been long-standing differences – not just in the past 8 years.
So go out and find one of those 52.95 million and have an open honest debate. You’ll feel better and less bitter.

What about the 52.95 million people that might engage you in a civil debate?
… that elected Congressional GOP folk like Joe “You Lie” Wilson into office.
Believe it or not, I have a number of conservative friends and come from a conservative background. Sadly, with the likes of Glenn Beck poisoning their minds and the hijacking of the GOP by right-wing extremists, they are no longer rational enough to discuss politics with.
How do you have a conversation with someone who is incapable of critical thinking past Faux News bullet points?
How do you find common ground with someone who screams “socialism” yet when challenged cannot even come up with a definition for the concept?

what ACORN is doing iriminal at best thats just the bottom line period

Do the left-wingers have any idea how gleeful we are to see the doddering old fool Carter enter the fray?
Oh, how wonderful it all is!

Hey Charlie Gibson! Is this story important enough for you now?

Why doesn’t ABC follow up on the ACORN story? Short of reporters? If they need some, FOX has plenty they can borrow.
Let’s see…ACORN is caught in the act in four separate cities helping set up child prostitution rings…and Charlie Gibson is unaware of it!
I’ll never forget the look of disdain when Charlie was looking down his nose at Palin for being “under” informed.

Scott as per your post
Maybe when the GOP Congress you 53 million elected to represent you decides to stop playing childish games and starts helping clean up the mess from the past 8 years, I’d be interested.
Or maybe when the GOP actually discovers that there is more to America than bankers, CEOs, and billionaires.
Obama bought 1 Trillion Dollars in TOXIC ASSETS from the CEOs, Bankers and Billionaires. Thats how the DOW went up. Did you notice Warren Buffet jumped in and bought up tons of Goldman Sachs stock before the bailouts? He is Obama’s Boy. Wake up my friend.

“conduct in-service training of staff”
Funny, I bet this includes a section on “How to Spot a Hidden Video Camera”.
Do they really expect us to believe these are isolated incidents that some in-service training will fix?

The state controlled media almost suppressed this story to protect the chief oligarch. They spin the story about Van Jones concealing his communist background to further shield their Marxist intentions for the United States. Forget the flaccid GOP because this current administration has lied about transparency. Left wing loons can call me names but I did not attend racist sermons from Rev. Wright for 20 years. These investigative reporters should get a medal for exposing corruption.

Hard to believe the Dems trotted out the old race baiter that gave us 22% interest rates and made us a laughingstock during his presidency.
They must be really desperate. Carter is a tool.

This is actually funny. The Dems who were so confident and smug during the townhall meetings thought they had their 2010 re-election in the bag because 1)obama owns the census 2)acorn would be part of the census and they help dems win using all type of activities;
Axlerod dismissing the 9/12 protest was so smug thinking he has a plan for the 2010 elections utilizing ACORN…
Now I’m sure the dems are worried about passing their unpopular health care, cap and tax because there will be no acorn organization to help them get re-elected. Hopefully another sinister organization won’t pop up in its place. But I’m sure rahm emmanual and axlerod are working on this right now.

Why is ABC not covering the ACORN crimes?? And why the hell are you trying to divide the country with Carter’s stupid racist remarks??? If all this was about racism – Obama would not be president. SO ENOUGH WITH RACIST and get Diane Sawyer to report on ACORN or maybe she could get Melissa Rycroft to do it if it’s to big of a story for Diane!!!

The GOP did just give Mark Foley a right-wing radio show…
And, you gave Ollie North a TV show…
G. Gordon Liddy got another shot after his stint in prison… and another after OKC…
And, Rush Limbaugh hasn’t suffered for his various criminal offenses… Hell, he even has started using his show to call for a return to segregation.
So, I wouldn’t say that Republicans are stingy with their forgiveness. If you have the right opinions, they’ll forgive you for anything.
On the other hand, if you represent something they hate… They won’t forgive you for anything. And if you haven’t done something wrong, they’ll just make something up.
(They are still bitter about what the imagine Hillary did to Vince Foster.)

-Why would they hold ACORN to a different standard than Taco Bell or the GOP?-
I don’t have to go to taco bell. And they weren’t going to “help out” with the census.

OMG! If you where listening you would know he was not serious it was tongue ‘n’ cheek.
Posted by: ‘Un-Amercian’ | Sep 17, 2009 12:02:44 PM
Ahhh… if that’s your idea of comedy… then you must think that Timothy McVeigh is like Rodney Dangerfield, or something.

From Rasmussen (the choice pollster of conservatives):
Thirty-five percent (35%) of likely voters believe the United States is heading in the right direction. That’s up two points over the past week and matches the level found during the first week of August. It’s also eight points higher than the week President Obama took office in January and up 25 points from late September and early October of last year.

So, I wouldn’t say that Republicans are stingy with their forgiveness. If you have the right opinions, they’ll forgive you for anything.
On the other hand, if you represent something they hate… They won’t forgive you for anything. And if you haven’t done something wrong, they’ll just make something up.
Posted by: gobot | Sep 17, 2009 11:25:14 AM
I would say that is just as true about the democrats. It’s the pot calling the kettle black and no that is not a racist statement.

Hey- let me think out loud too!
Foley didn’t touch anyone.
Gerry Studds was given a Committee chair by the Democrats after he had sex with an underage male page.
Ted Kennedy suffered no ill effects for letting a woman drown!
Rush Limbaugh isn’t in the government!
This is a fun game!

“Don’t forget that Barack Obama was ACORN’s lawyer and trainer. As someone once said, “A fish rots from the head down.”"
Obama attended two leadership training sessions and he represented ACORN in a single case.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Philadelphia ACORN president Carol Hemingway said in a statement on Monday that “after causing a major disturbance, they were asked to leave the office, and a police report was filed.”
Hemingway e-mailed copies of the incident report to the news media. No charges were filed against O’Keefe or Giles, and their visit to the City of Brotherly Love has not been part of a series of reports aired on the Fox News Channel.”
The lesson as always?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 17, 2009 1:47:20 PM
Oh gee. I wonder why Fox hasn’t reported on the Philly boot. Eyeroll.
The thing that cracks me up is that some right wingers don’t buy that the woman who joked about killing her husband was joking even though her ex-husbands are still alive and she was hilarious when she was describing how she did it, and did appear to be yanking their chains. And good for her.
ACORN has had some issues over the years, and I think they should conduct an investigation on their own of these issues– I’m for accountability– but all the distortion and ginned up rhetoric against them is sickening.

“Obama attended two leadership training sessions and he represented ACORN in a single case.”
Let’s see- Obama represented ACORN.
Gee, that seems to make him their lawyer.
You see, Ryan, that’s what makes someone your lawyer- them representing you.
It’s really pretty simple.

My God there is a story about Acorn here?? It took a week for them to get in line with what is ahppening in the world?? I wonder if some city was attacked in the US and abc will wait till next week to tell their readers?? Congress just voted to strip ACORN of its funding?? Its about time. Now spend that money on AMERICAN poor children, feed them and cloth them. Give the money to scoll breakfast and luch programs.

Cisneros…isnt he the fellow that got into legal trouble a few years ago fir lying?
The SEIU..these the same guys that share a building in New Orleans
partial and independent?
pardon me I cant type because im laughing so hard…

hmmmm… Obama donated $800K to this organization during the campaign… wonder why… for voter’s fraud services… or perhaps as investment into the prostitution business??
I think someone needs to do some investigation to find out why a politicial candidate donates money to an organization like Acorn during an election… when it is typically the other way around…