Biden: Obama Will Get Specific on Health Care Priorities in Address to Congress

This is priceless. Obama waited FIVE MONTHS to finally divulge his demands for ObamaCare, and Axelrod says Republicans have bargained in bad faith?
Maybe Axelrod would do better to tell his boss to stop outsourcing leadership to Pelosi, Reid, & Co. and start getting to work a little sooner — perhaps in the next month or two.

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Can someone explain why Obama is so quick to coddle Muslims but neglects his own citizens who are of a conservative persuasion?
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Obama and the whole liberal Democrat echelon are in complete denial that the majority of citizen (their own constituants) strongly oppose the government run healtcare ideology
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The real story here is that congress and the Whitehouse tried to push this legislation through by August 1st without public comments, debate, or even reading the legislation.
If and when we reform health care we should use a truly innovative plan. America is the most creative culture on the planet. A plan like John Mackey’s with health saving accounts is a good start.
That plan allows people to accumulate cash that is theirs to keep over a life time. Insurance is for high cost procedures. People are aware of what procedures cost and that drives down prices. Outrageous malpractice insurance costs are reduced. The cost of procedures is a direct result of that malpractice insurance going to insurance companies and lawyers (pardon my use of profanities).

“Can someone explain why Obama is so quick to coddle Muslims but neglects his own citizens who are of a conservative persuasion?”
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Do you really think there are no Muslims who are conservative Americans?

NO Bama,
The problem lies in the fact that his ego thinks he is destined to be a WORLD LEADER
when in reality all he done is organize neighborhoods and give nice speeches full of what he thinks you what to hear but what he can’t really deliver.

President Obama will lay out in “understandable, clear terms” what he wants to happen in his push for healthcare reform……………………..right because we are so stupid (for voting you in) that we must not understand the complex ways in which he thinks. So he has to dumb it down for us. Please BO just stop and leave us alone.

Exactly how will another arrogant, condescending, mocking, taunting speech help Obama’s credibility problem?
He always comes across as a know it all Harvard elitist chastising his dumb students.

you played the american public and tried to pull a fast one. you demonstrated you have a forked tounge. the trust is gone.

I concur that it is BS (as the bottom line of saved jobs will be that 750,000 teacher / police jobs would have elsewise disappeared – I don’t think so. And where are the private sector job that were supposed to be 65% of the number)
—- but Biden must be on some new medication, his sentences seem to make sense, he defends without being defensive. His famous humor is actually working in his favor and he sounds like he actually believes what he is telling the mayors and governors about transparency
Obama and his front man Gibbs on the other hand … no sense of humor, repeat constantly clarity while descending into confusion, and transparency…HAH.

Obama is hoping this will give him a bump in the polls.
He’ll get many standing ovations.
Won’t have to answer questions.
He can scold the Republicans and pretend to get tough with his own party.
He’ll act all tough and cocky.
Big difference this time.
Everyone is wide awake and fully aware of Obama’s attempt to take over as much as possible in America.
Another speech won’t help this time.

-He always comes across as a know it all Harvard elitist chastising his dumb students.-
He already got rolled by 2 guys who went to LSU.

I cant stand to see his face or hear his voice so I’ll just read about it later.

A fool on a fools errand.

So why did it take Obama so long and why didn`t he come up with his plan first before this all started?
Answer: lack of experience, no ideas and no leadership as the answer?

===lack of experience, no ideas and no leadership as the answer?===
While I agree with you, expect him to lay the blame on him staying “vague” on republicans. Trying to allow those “negotiating in good faith” a chance to do so, but since they in fact did not “negotiate in good faith” he has no choice now but to lead us out of the wilderness. There will be a lot of “let me be clear” and “as I’ve always said” and “we cannot afford” and “lion of the senate” thrown in, but at the end of the night, republicans will be blamed for whatever failure the public has mistakenly attributed to Obama. And the oceans will part and lights will be placed strategically over his head so the halo can be seen.

===The crazies are the one drooling and screeching at townhouse meetings,===
I would have placed the crazies as the ones biting off the fingertips of those opposed to Obamacare.

Clockwork: You are so right! Healthcare is very important so WHY didn’t Prs. Bush do something about it in the EIGHT years he was in? Oh yes he did do something about it…he sat and watched it go sky high so most people cannot afford it. This is not easy and I applaud Pres. Obama for tackling it. Healthcare reform must be done and if Congress and a lot of citizens would stop the screaming and scare tactics and reasonably sit down and discuss this in a calm manner instead of being involved in town hall screaming matches this country would be better off!

Axley: You gave a sarcastic remark to Clockwork “yeah” that you believed Bush would have done a better job.
THEN WHY DIDN’T HE????????? He did NOTHING about healthcare!
Do you actually see what you wrote?

See this is why our country is in such a mess…People like Axey…they don’t give reasonable posts, just keep attacking the president. This is an AMERICAN problem not a political one and we should all be discussing this calmly and reasonably not with crazy idiotic remarks.

-See this is why our country is in such a mess-
Why don’t you take care of yourself instead of wanting everyone else to pay for it? That’s the problem. I remember what Obama said about the Post Office vs. FedEx. Why should healthcare be any different? Stop spending money on ring tones and ring dings and buy your own insurance.

Barb,
While I appreciate that you think people like me have more power than people like you, I will just note that democrats control Washington. If they want Obamacare, I, and those like me, can’t stop them.
I will also point out that if I had answered you and the other poster with more than one word, you would still be claiming I’m hating on the president.
I could have noted that under Bush, seniors now have prescription medicine. Under Bush, more monies were directed towards Aids than any other president. Under Bush, Massachusetts was granted a waiver to use federal monies for their universal healthcare plan. Under Bush, federal money was doubled towards community healthcare clinics.
I wouldn’t have to tell you all of that if our esteemed media did its job.

Axey – very good points. You have to realize that Barb gets all of her information from the Comedy channel.

“could have noted that under Bush, seniors now have prescription medicine. Under Bush, more monies were directed towards Aids than any other president. Under Bush, Massachusetts was granted a waiver to use federal monies for their universal healthcare plan. Under Bush, federal money was doubled towards community healthcare clinics.
I wouldn’t have to tell you all of that if our esteemed media did its job.”
Posted by: Axey | Sep 3, 2009 2:37:35 PM
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Ah, which piece of propoganda do I start with?
on funds for AIDS…
Mr. Bush proposed increasing the funding for fighting AIDS inside the U.S. by 7% from 2003, to $16 billion. These actions were welcomed.
BUT…
While encouraged by both this actions, skepticism about the motives behind the actions. As it turned out – the Brookings Institute had shown that the funding for AIDS in Africa has come in part due to cuts in other existing African child-health aid programs. “…This is because the Administration’s increase of $450 million for the Global AIDS initiative is offset by a $470 million shortfall in its Child Survival and Health request relative to the fiscal 2003 appropriations bill….”

===Ah, which piece of propoganda [sic] do I start with?===
See? My one word worked just as well.

===True, BUT===
So predictable. Which is why I answer with “yeah”.

Under Bush, Funds to Community Health Care Clinic were increased, BUT
Community Health Care Clinics became busier because of the recession and cuts at other social service agencies.
So, the ‘increase’ of funding did not consider the increase in demand.
Oh, those sneaky Bushies.

Bush’s False Claims About Children’s Health Insurance
September 21, 2007
“The president mischaracterizes congressional efforts to expand the SCHIP program.
President Bush gave a false description of proposed legislation to expand the 10-year-old federal program to provide health insurance for children in low-income working families.
He said it “would result” in covering children in families with incomes up to $83,000 per year, which isn’t true. The Urban Institute estimated that 70 percent of children who would gain coverage are in families earning half that amount, and the bill contains no requirement for setting income eligibility caps any higher than what’s in the current law. (The compromise bill that was released a few days after Bush’s press conference does rescind an administration effort to block New York state from increasing its eligibility cap to that level.)
He also said the program was “meant to help poor children,” when in fact Congress stated that it was meant to expand insurance coverage beyond the poor and to cover millions of “low-income” children who were well above the poverty line. Under current law most states cover children at twice or even three times the official poverty level.
The president also says Congress’ expansion is a step toward government-run health care for all. It’s true that some children and families with private insurance are expected to shift to the government program. But the Congressional Budget Office estimates that such a shift is relatively low considering the number of uninsured these bills would reach.

yell against their own self-interest
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Who is a better determiner of someone’s self interest than his own self?

O’Hanlon says the man got into an argument and fist fight, during which he bit off the left pinky of a 65-year-old man who opposed health care reform.
Posted by: Yes We Cannibal | Sep 3, 2009 3:30:43 PM
In a world of toothless fools, a toothed man gets extra protein.

Who is a better determiner of someone’s self interest than his own self?
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 3, 2009 3:35:08 PM
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…and who better to against their own interests, someone cajoled and manipulated?

O’Hanlon says the man got into an argument and fist fight, during which he bit off the left pinky of a 65-year-old man who opposed health care reform.
Posted by: Yes We Cannibal | Sep 3, 2009 3:30:43 PM
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Perhaps the GOP could enlist him.
Posted by: gus amaral | Sep 3, 2009
He’s a DEM, Gus, a dim DEM but a DEM.

===”Insurers denied coverage to 12.6 million nonelderly adults in 2007 due to preexisting conditions.”===
I know I’m looking forward to this portion of the bill passing. I will drop my healthcare and wait until I need it before I spend anymore of my money on it. I just hope they expand this to include homeowner’s insurance. How awesome would that be if I didn’t have to pay for homeowner’s insurance until my house burned down?

…and who better to against their own interests, someone cajoled and manipulated?
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Indeed.
So, let’s say person A has good insurance, lots of savings, and a relatively high income.
Should he support Obama’s health care “reforms” if it will raise his taxes? Would that be against his self-interest?

The people no longer trust this president. It is not possible to believe what he says. He has reached the point where people hear him but don’t really listen to him.
Seven months ago the nation was united in Hope. Obama has squandered that unity.

===And Axey, to be fair to our poor Gus on this count – there should be high risk pools available nationwide. ===
Why? People take calculated risks that they would rather have a new car, new boat, cell phone, internet, computer, game boy, Juicy and A&F. Meanwhile, I’m driving an 8 year old car, never got the boat, have a cell phone, internet and computer, but I pay for my own health insurance. But then, I’m also one of the idiots that paid off my home early. Oh well…next lifetime, I swear I’m gonna be a liberal.

“Oh well…next lifetime, I swear I’m gonna be a liberal.”
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You think liberals have not paid their mortages like you. You’re an arrogant idiot.

===You think liberals have not paid their mortages like you.===
No. Not all fools are liberals. It just seems to me liberals have an easier time excusing their behavior than I, as a conservative, would.

The remnants of the fanatical Republican right live in such a bubble of lies and unreality, they claim liberals don’t pay their mortgages or have health insurance.
Out to lunch.

===The remnants of the fanatical Republican right===
Which also happen to be strong enough to prevent Obamacare from passing in a democratically controlled congress with the most hope and changey president evah from the same party!
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The remnants of the fanatical Republican right live in a bubble of lies and unreality – and hate and delusion. Health reform will PASS.

The great thing is that health reform will PASS.
Then the anti-Obama screamers and insulters will have to move on to another issue to hate.
Don’t worry, he’ll take his children out for ice cream again sometime and you can attack him again for that.

“The great thing is that health reform will PASS.
Then the anti-Obama screamers and insulters will have to move on to another issue to hate.
Don’t worry, he’ll take his children out for ice cream again sometime and you can attack him again for that.”
Posted by: julieterra | Sep 3, 2009 4:48:39 PM
You need to direct your uncontrolled RAGE at the villainous, immoral Blue Dog Democrats who are stopping ObamaCare. On filibuster-proof Capitol Hill, the GOP can’t stop anything.

so WHY didn’t Prs. Bush do something about it in the EIGHT years he was in?Posted by: Barb | Sep 3, 2009 2:22:41 PM
Because his was free and he liked the plan he was on.

Steffie Woolhandler is a lifelong radical
– just saying this is a not a study by establishment medical authorities suddenly seeing the light.
- its a survey specifically designed by progressive hacks to get the results desired.

In August a group of 60 Democratic lawmakers wrote to the president to say they would vote AGAINST any healthcare bill that excluded the public insurance option on which Mr Obama had campaigned.

Ok, the new version may be understandable but will it be believable? The last one wasn’t!

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Random House and American Heritage dictionaries trump a Wikipedia entry.

Ok, so he is going to be specific on what he wants done. How about he be specific on exactly how he is going to do it and how it will be run. Who will run it? How it will be paid for?
This time he needs to put forth a concise picture not the obscure crap of this committee will do this..this committee will do that..You can keep your current insurance, oh no 1st it has to meet certain criteria..What criteria?? How much is reasonable to pay for insurance? If we are forced to get health insurance per current bill or pay a penalty, who sets the price as to what is reasonable? Does it go by our income or what?
We deserve to have the truth of this bill set before us. We deserve to be told specifics. We are smart people, we can read and understand. We are not children that need our hand held and we do not need to be told how to run our lives. Especially by those who can’t seem to tell us anything but generalizations about how this should work. Tell us how it will work then maybe we can support it.

35 million on food stamps,more than 6 million unemployed and God knows how many working multiple part time jobs tells me that business is not reinvesting. While we fight about healthcare our President and our politicians have taken their focus off what should be our number 1 priority. With quality jobs people then can buy their own insurance.

I am sure obama will be as “specific” as a blank check. The people have been specific and the word is “no”. Google it, maybe on a blackberry.

The President and the Democrats need to stop trying allow the Republicans to be a part of this. Frankly, they have been given too many chances already and their votes are not needed.

Biden saying that Obama will speak in “understandable, clear terms” is pretty much an admission that Obama has up to now been speaking in gibberish.
But anyone who’s been paying attention knew that already. The challenge for Obama is to show that he can speak in any other way. Not holding my breath.

Mr. Obama lacks ANY leadership, at least on this topic.

YA Right… more lies….King BO is going to give us a line of BS… there will be NO SPECIFIC’s…. It will only very broad general statements….. so matter what the Congress passes he can claim victory….

When all is said and done, history will record that Obama saved capitalism from itself.
Jerk.