Blowback in the ACORN Wars

Did Vitter direct billions of taxpayer dollars to his prostitute?
The woman in the ACORN office had a responsibility to make sure the people were just playing around. That she didn’t do so, when the stakes were so high if she was wrong, indicates to me that she’s didn’t think they were just playing around.

Curious why if she was play-acting that she chose to invoke the names of various representatives in California government and bring them down with her. I’m guessing she’ll be the next one ACORN fires.
Vitter was cowardly for avoiding potential personal flack at the expense of standing up against corruption. If it made him look like a hypocrite…tough bounce. In this case he is one, but it shouldn’t preclude you from doing your job and what is right.

The whole thing is so sleazy, I feel my skin crawl just thinking about it….
The president should be denouncing ACORN for even entertaining the idea of gaming the system with underage prostitutes (he has young daughters after all). That he isn’t says volumes about him and the kind of man he is.

ACORN’s president said in a press release that the loss of the Fed funding, while disappointing, would not affect operations of the organization. Question: Why then was ACRON in line to get the money? Because it was “there?” And then, if losing that $$$ won’t hurt the group, then what other $$$ do they have just laying around that might hurt if it too went away?

whats vitter got to do with this story on acorn

It’s about time the lame-stream media picked up this inconvenient story – the corruption within ACORN needs to be investigated…

I am not one of those against ACORN, but with all the videos and reports coming out about them, the federal government should fire them for stupidity if for no other reason.

ACORN=STUPID

I guess ABC News has decided to acknowelege that ACORN does in fact exist; just like the Bush Doctrine which Charlie Gibson so arrogantly stated.
Charlie probably said, “Jake, help me out..Try to discredit them..they’re killing me.. They will not let me off the hook for my lousy journalism when I intervied Sarah. C’mon Jake, bail me out…”

This is typical liberal obfuscation. Vitter’s personal foibles don’t have anything to do with the story. If he had been using federal dollars to support the prostitute he was involved with then maybe there would be a point, but as it stands it’s just deflection.
The issue is that Democrats are funneling money to organizations which are corrupt to the core. The fact that ACORN and SEIU openly campaign for Democrat candidates is reason enough to defund them. The obvious fraud and corruption just makes it a no-brainer…which is probably why the network media fails to understand the issue.

Memo to Louisiana Dem Party- you’ve got two separate issues there. Yes, David Vitter is a scumbag hypocrite. That is in no way related to ACORN being really exposed as, at the very least, an irresponsible organization that does not need to receive taxpayer funds. Both of them are true

Ahh hello! All of her ex-husbands are alive.
Maybe she was just messing around. She was, JOKING.
Jesus people, get a life!

Gotta love throwing Sen. David Vitter under the bus, just because he has the “madam” past, how about we talk about ACORN, not some Sen. that slept with a mistress? That was so last month. And yes, i do get the irony you are trying to impose but please, there are so many other people out there trying to investigate ACORN, but nice try.

ABC News has absolutely no coverage of Acorn and their fraud. It is too bad they have become an arm of the Democrat’s talking points rather than ethical journalism. Why bring Vetter into this? Absolutely nothing to do with the story. What about the fact Acorn was willing to help protect those bringing underage girls into the US illegally, ripped from their homes and sold into prostitution? That is the story that should be told.

Why wasn’t ABC or “60 Minutes” investigating this instead of a couple of kids dressed up for halloween?
Oh, that’s right, they’re overwhwlmingly liberal too.

I don’t understand the main stream media’s polarization. It seems that they should just endorse the truth. That way they will give their advertisers the other half of the demographic.

“‘As far as her murdering an ex-husband, that’s news to me,’ Ronald Kaelke said. ‘She’s definitely got problems and goes off the wall sometimes.’”
Priceless. Absolutely priceless. The new ACORN poster girl, Trese Kaelke. She of multiple ex-husbands, and restraining orders.
And this woman could be enrolling people in Obamacare unless something is done to cut off every tentacle this bunch of leech mongers has managed to insert into the operations of our government.

The next march should be a march on the the news, show up in NYC instead of DC

In 2007, the couple traded allegations of domestic violence and received separate restraining orders against each other, he said.
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Yet we are supposed to believe this woman’s good judgment told her to laugh off people claiming to have a child prostitution ring?

A very wise person told me to listen to the opinions opposite of my view for 1 week…since then I have noticed that Fox news is the most balanced…they have their inconsistencies as well…but they do report the news that the others don’t…I make it my business to read and watch their shows to see whats what and who’s who…

I am simply appalled at the lack of coverage that the “mainstream media” (that would be you), have given to this story. What do you think your reaction would have been had this occurred at offices of a pro-life advocacy group? The noise would have been deafening. It is a real shame how far our network news organizations have fallen. I used to be a regular viewer. Never again

Well, I guess Rush Limbaugh told all his listeners to complain to ABC about their lack of coverage of ACORN!
Try looking at the flip-side – how many other government supported groups would look just as irresponsible if videos were taken in their offices? Another side to look at: how much good has ACORN done in comparison to a few loose cannons? (I suppose it is not “good” to conservatives that ACORN registers low income and minority people to vote.)

I have to agree with Paul. ABC news is has covered up so much it is like watching a state run news agency. How could Charlie Gibson say he did not know of Acorn’s stunts.

Nice Job with the Red Herring on Vitter! That sure has a lot to do with ACORN, wow it never ceases to amaze me how you lib reporters give the rest of us no credit for any sort of intelligence at all. Just tie it to Fox and find a red-herring and it all goes away right Jake?

Making up a “I murdered my husband” story clearly demonstrates the seriousness with which ACORN takes itself. This sort of attempt to deflect investigation suggests there is indeed a fire causing all of this smoke.

Try looking at the flip-side – how many other government supported groups would look just as irresponsible if videos were taken in their offices? Another side to look at: how much good has ACORN done in comparison to a few loose cannons?
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That’s hysterical, probably unintentionally so, but hysterical nonetheless.
Under those auspices, nothing illegal matters as long as good comes out of it.

abc you show your true colors once again, unfortunately you made a big mistake, there are many hours of tapes, impossible to deny the allegations of this disgusting organization that our president was part of and still supports.

Vitter doesn’t need any more ‘smearing’, he is a known quantity….
he’s just another fraud Republican ‘holier than thou family man’ caught being a hypocrite.
re: If this were a Republican you would be all over it!! Posted by: Gail Heath
if ABC was really after Republicans, there would be so many other stories and opportunities of malfeasance and collective stupidity to ‘go after’ ….
re: Because the Acorn employee is a liar not a murderer we should we just dismiss this? Posted by: Dave
exchange Acorn, with Republican,…… still feel the same way? be happy the networks aren’t really going after the Bush/Cheney lies.

Annie wrote: “…how much good has ACORN done in comparison to a few loose cannons?”
You mean like how they were involved in extorting the mortgage companies into giving mortgages to individuals who could not afford the loans–which lead to the collapse of our economy last year?

This is it? This is all you have to say about ACORN’s corruption? Even in the headline you are trying to dissuade the public of its impact!

Ok there not one nor two but 4 different tapes showing ACORN giving bad advices and ABC NEWS has the nerve to print one person’s statement about how she was playing those who were filming. No, I don’t think so, ABC! I thought you were a respectful, intelligence organization. You just made the National Enquirer look better than you with this story.

Why not do a story on the sex trade in the United States and how it’s being institutionalized by ACORN!!! And how the CHILDREN we import into the sex trade are getting health insurance under Obama’s health plan. Not that they don’t deserve it – but maybe, just maybe we should reconsider whether importing children as sex objects is something we want to be involved in – THAT’S THE STORY. God Help You.

Acorn must have one heck of screening system for vetting people that might work there. It must be a copy of the one used by the Obama administration. Of course, NBC and the other networks don’t talk much about ACORN. Why would they ? They’ve got ” a dog in this fight”. This is especially true of Brian Williams, the second spokesman for the Obama administration.

Oh, I get it now! I just read the NY Times coverage about the Acorn debacle. According to the “mainstream media,” the real story is not what Acorn did, but rather the effort by the mean old conservative bullys to target these poor Acorn folks.

This is not ACORN’S first criminal activity. Vote registering FRAUD in AT least 11 states- the founder’s brother and over a million dollars missing–in this latest fiasco I was impressed by their concern for the 13-14yr old hookers from EL Salvador the couple wanted to bring in for UNLAWFUL underage prostituttion.–ACORN-Your taxes at work.

“seem to show”! Are you kidding when you say “seem to show”? Did you watch the same same video as everyone else? There is no “seem to show” about it. Why don’t you just spin it, that the ACORN worker was just kidding with them, and they were really using code words to discuss the structure of the Food Pyramid, so the young couple could make sure their future children would have nutritious meals three times per day.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? You refuse to report this HUGE STORY and then when you show up for work, you do a hit piece on VITTER???? UNBELIEVABLE!

Has ABC ever looked at “Is ACORN Intentionally Structured As a
Criminal Enterprise?” A Staff Report by the
U.S. House of Representatives
111th Congress
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
July 23, 2009
It’s great reading and ABC might want to see how corrupt ACORN really is. But then again it’s fall, and Halloween is coming…..a much better story.

I just checked the MSNBC home page to see how they are handling this story. Apparently they feel if you can’t say something nice about a liberal organization, you shouldn’t say anything at all.

Shame on you ABC. I thought the free press supposed to keep an eye on the gov’t, not shill for it. Come on ABC, we the people need a large media outlet to shine the light on corruption, not help cover it up.
It only to you 4 days to run an article on this hot button issue, and this is what you come up with?
Pathetic indeed.

It baffles me. Why am I not seeing nor hearing RICO and ACORN used in the same sentence anywhere in the media?

Steve,
You must be kidding…
Aiding and Abbetting under age prostitution IS A FEDERAL CRIME.
Encouraging people to lie to the IRS IS A CRIME
But then again, what do we expect from this admin. THE GUY RUNNING THE IRS IS A TAX CHEAT.
Jake Tapper is one guy I USED to have respect for. No longer.
So, maybe I am missing something. None of the above is a crime, but someone catching these people engaging in criminal acts is “conservative political attacks”
Keep drinking that kool-aid dude.

ABC News should be ASHAMED it has ignored this HUGE story for weeks. These two kid reporters should win the Pulitzer, Murrow, Emmy or whatever TV news’ biggest prize is called these days. Shame on traditional networks and their incompetent, biased reporters and producers for making fun of this monster story! I will no longer watch ABC News!

This is the ONLY news story you guys could come up with about ACORN? This organization is corrupt from top to bottom and I can’t believe this is the story that you guys choose to report. I thought the bias you showed during the election was outrageous but this tops everything I’ve ever seen. Thank God for Fox News…they refuse to lead us down the socialistic path.

What a joke ABC is. I am not a republican nor a democrat but an honest to “God” American and can honestly say that the mainstream media is beyond bias in their reporting.

Poor Gary !
He just won’t see beyond his leaders BS

It baffles me. Why am I not seeing nor hearing RICO and ACORN used in the same sentence anywhere in the media?
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Ken Blackwell and Ken Klukowski are both pushing for Holder to start an investigation because there are definitely grounds for it. So far…silence.

I know I am being dense, but what useful stuff does this organization or type of organization do? I know somehow that they “produced” an awful lot of votes for our President, but the videos show them advising people on matters dealing with our government.
I honestly thought all of our representatives from the local to the state and to the federal level had local offices for that. I saw them charter buses to visibly protest AIG execs homes of all places, but is there such a thing as a professional vote getting / protesting organization?
If they really do perform a useful service as a “community organizer”, I’m ashamed because it means the gazillion dollars we are paying for our government to interface with us is not working! If there is a class, or type, or age, or height, or eye color, of citizens who need special protection, we are doing something wrong as a nation. I would rather have my government do that type of thing, but if they really want to outsource “talking to the government”, I want my money back that is being paid for local offices.

How many people used their judgment to decide Phillip Garrido was harmless? Don’t we all wish, in retrospect, that people who came in contact with him wouldn’t have written him off so easily?
When someone tells you they are opening a child prostitution ring, and you don’t know enough about them to *know* they are lying, doesn’t a good citizen do a little follow-up?

Holder could not or would not investigate the “New Black Panthers” voter intimidation case, what on Earth makes anyone believe they will investigate ACORN.
He won’t he will have to much to do investigating and attempting to destroy the CIA.

Talk about a misleading headline. Just a quick glance gives one the impresion that the videos could be fake, when in fact the story given out by an ACORN employee about killing her husband was fake. They want you to think the worst of the reporters breaking this story and not what the ACORN group has done. That’s REALLY constructive and accurate journalism, Tapper.

Stick a fork in network news…it’s a day late and a dollar short. They ignored the Acorn story for days, but can’t wait to air the tripe that comes out of the mouth of another American mistake…Jimmy Carter.

How about the other THREE videos already released showing ACORN operatives supporting and encouraging felonies?
How about the video due to be released today showing MORE corruption at ACORN?
This after more than a dozen ACORN employees arrested for committing felonies within the last 2 weeks.
Clearly a pattern of criminal behavior at every level of ACORN. Yet Charlie Gibson yesterday admitted he did not even KNOW about this.
ABC – NOT much of a “news” resource.

Actually, nothing ACORN could ever do even comes close to the gross misuse of MY tax dollars that were used for the War in Iraq. This ACORN stuff is just a distraction. These right wing nuts have been wasting our money for YEARs and NOW they have the “stones” to try to smear this group in an effort to smear the President of the US. No one has ever confused the Right Wing as people with honest intelligence.

what a joke ABC News is now

The only people that I know who watch network news are those without cable. This miserable attempt to absolve ACORN of any blame is a joke!

ABC, are you blind, or, just protecting your friends? Didn’t you hear in the tapes where they told ACORN that they wanted to set up a brothel and have a dozen 13-15 year old girls from El Salvador as sex slave prostitutes and were given, by ACORN, all kinds of information on how to do it? That, to me, IS the story. Also, the fact that the underage girls were of a different race as the ACORN staff, on all four occasions, indicates to me that ACORN has a bunch of racists working for them as well.

why would the msm investigate this or even report on it ? the racism element would be flying all over , ie Carter, and lord knows the connection with the pres. and his minnions… good grief…open your eyes people, do you really still hate bush that much that this is allowed to go on…what a sad site

All the news channels are politically biased, anyone putting ABC and MSNBC down while praising “fair and balanced” Fox News is just making themselves look absolutely duped–they are the worst of all the propaganda machines on the air! But if they tell you they are “fair and balanced,” if they tell you “we report, you decide” they must be telling the truth, right? They couldn’t possibly be influenced by the owner of Fox and his highly conservative, Republican background! They couldn’t possibly be interpreting every story through a biased lens! And of course they aren’t MANIPULATING their loyal patriots, the REAL Americans (but only if you agree with them) with the rampant use of propaganda (trumpeting vague, ideologically-based approval or disapproval; “patriot,” “real American,” “Terrorist”). Please investigate the parallels between neo-con media sources and fascist propaganda…their followers are waving their Hitler signs in the wrong direction!

Umm, can you add?
85 MILLION IN TAXPAYERS MONEY HAS GONE TO ACORN ALREADY? HOW MANY OF THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN MISAPPROPRIATED????
A drop in the bucket compared to what we have spent in Iraq, google the CBO report if you don’t believe me…
Typical lib., don’t stay on topic, lie and distract and point the finger a Bush…. so typical, so obvious, lame and lacks intelligent thought.
Nice to know you are willing to prove to all those folks out there, that you have no real interest in the issue. Just another sheep to “bahh” when Obama tells you to.
You have the NERVE to talk about “HONEST INTELLIGENCE”? WHERE – OH WHERE IS YOURS?
Oh right, to stuck on the BDS to think clearly.
“Actually, nothing ACORN could ever do even comes close to the gross misuse of MY tax dollars that were used for the War in Iraq. This ACORN stuff is just a distraction. These right wing nuts have been wasting our money for YEARs and NOW they have the “stones” to try to smear this group in an effort to smear the President of the US. No one has ever confused the Right Wing as people with honest intelligence.”

Fox News is a bunch of idiots. When are you going to wake up? They care about RATINGS and DOLLARS, not truth and integrity. That much should be obvious by their focus on overy-salatious stories and Jerry Springer-like banter.

Texas Dave, I’m sure you say “baffles” for rhetorical purposes…most logical people will have concluded that administration delay, reluctance, inaction on policing OBVIOUS crime in ACORN can only, repeat, ONLY be politically motivated.
As the 2008 election wound to a close, I was sad that so many who voted for what they THOUGHT would be less politically and more rationally motivated leadership, instead chose the most politically shrewd, and least thoughtful of all political “machines” available.

This is actually entertainment – watching the lowest common denominator of BOTH parties duke it out on matters of little substance. The problem is that these people are not able to understand the real issues that face the US – they are educationally stunted. However, throw in a little racial hatred and boy do they all have PHds! Gotta feel sorry for the unintelligent, the uninformed and the down right stupid ON BOTH SIDES. Good Luck with that!

I would like an investigation if acorn participated in the last census. If so, that is an entirely new can of worms since voting districts, federal funding and a world of things are determined by the census figures.
If acorn did participate, how distorted were those figures and who is benefiting?
Another matter of interest is the questionable registration of voters which brought us the travesty known as the obama administration. How much of that was the work of these community organizers?

To Halo and others including Pelosi, Reid, Obama and every other democrat raising the Iraq war rant, yet again.
My kids used to do something like what your saying… which is “If Bush can do it, why can’t we?. As a parent, I never bought that line of ***, and as a voter I don’t either
Unfortunately we have politicians not parents deciding how much to spend and allow, which means that it’s a competition between both parties to see who can cause the country to go broke first.
To the real point,, which is, should fed dollars go to this group. I say heck no.
To the point of the article which is to deflect from asking that basic question I just answered.. ABC start doing some real journalism without the blinders

-oh yeah… um.. Bertha – how come if these videos are doctored and not what they seem, did you fire these poor people ? they didn’t do anything – according to you ! -
When in doubt, Van Jones them out!

So ABC has no problem with an ACORN employee thinking she is getting played and making up all sorts of lies like running a brothel, and killing her husband, to a potential customer(s). The fact that it may not be true makes no difference here. I would expect her to do what anyone else would have done, and call the police, or threaten to do so if she actually thought they were lying about importing underage prostitutes. Why not just run them out of the office vs. making a bunch of stuff up that makes ACORN seem horrible for hiring her. Cut off all funding and investigate these guys NOW!

If this ACORN stuff is correct and not just a bunch of political back-and-forth then yeah let’s cut their funding and call it a day.
At the same time we should investigate David Vitter’s prostitution habit because unless he was doing it in Nevada ( which, maybe he was…) it is illegal. We should know though. We can’t have a U.S. Senator breaking laws flagrantly. You see, a senator such as Vitter who believes he has the right to legislate morality must be held to that standard. Since he has shown himself to be morally corrupt, he must be discarded. His immorality will corrupt absolutely.

ABC shows it’s ineptitude and bias! Instead of trying to uncover the corruption and dishonesty prevalent at ACORN, They only run a story trying to discredit the messengers and impune anyone reporting negatives about ACORN. NO WONDER LESS AND LESS PEOPLE TURN TO ABC FOR NEWS! PITIFUL!

How are the videos with ACORN staff any different from 60 Minutes or 20/20 hidden camera exposes’ that those teams do on corporate corruption…you know the kind of “gotcha” reports that the networks DON’T ignore for political reasons? One of these videos might have been a fluke, but now four of them is a trend that shows just how dangerous this organization can be.

I’m dumbfounded. This article could not flown any wider of the mark. I give up. Later, ABC.

What we are seeing here is the beginning of the end of Network News.
They have given up on trying to be fair or to research news, or to do anything that actually requires effort on their part to find ‘NEWS.’
I’m so glad that we have Fox News to actually report news and give us both sides of it.
Thank the good Lord that Algore ‘invented’ the Internet so we can do our own research!

Kevin,
You might be interested to know that until Friday FACTCHECK.ORG claimed that ACORN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE US 2010 CENSUS.
FACT CHECK must have been shocked when the letter was issued Friday that ACORN TIES TO THE 2010 CENSUS WERE TERMINATED.
Last night, the Senate voted 87-5 (around that I may be slightly off) in favor to cut HUD funding to ACORN.
None of those FACTS made it to Tapper’s piece.

Try the truth -
You should do the SAME.
DEMOCRATS voted for ACORN FUNDING BEFORE THE HOUSES WERE REPUBLICAN.
Try the facts yourself sometime. You might be shocked at what you find.

Jake – you distinguish yourself among your network colleagues by reporting on this story at all. And also by asking tough questions at the press conferences. Even so, I have to agree with many of the commentors here who decry the state of the leftward fourth estate. There is zero moral equivalency between engaging a prostitute and pimping helpless, underage girls on the taxpayers dime. If my employer were cramping my style and talent to the point of rhetorical contortions (as I suspect yours is), I’d find a new one. Just a thought.

400,000 voter registration apps were rejected according to the New York Times article that were submitted by ACORN for duplicate registrations, incomplete forms and FRAUDULENT SUBMISSIONS. The final tally was that almost 1 out of 2 that they submitted was rejected. Doesn’t sound like too great of an organization and then these videos show their employees giving criminal advice for tax evasion, etc from a group that is receiving our tax dollars. They must be investigated from top to bottom before they receive more tax dollars if ever.

Now we know how Al Franken won the Senate, with more votes counted that REGISTERED VOTERS. ACORN ALL THE WAY

This is a joke. You can tell that the woman from ACORN is playing it up. After all, its not exactly a hidden camera, is it?

ABC ignored the story too long. I would never tell someone I murdered anyone even as a joke or to get someone’s reaction as the ACORN worker said. Thank goodness the government wasn’t as slow to take action against ACORN as ABC was to report on this.

what “blowback”?? Fox disclosed in this particular california office visit that they didn’t even know if the Killing was true, or if it was made up. They wanted to find out. Either way, the Lady was not professional (Par for the course for ACORN)
Like Liberty said… stop looking to discredit who the story came from, and look into the substance of the issue.

ABC News: Next time your talking head Charlie Gibson raises the question about Sarah Palin’s response to his question about the so-called Bush Doctrine, ask your hypocrite Gibson to explain his response to Stefanopolis’ question about ACORN’S doctrine, as exposed by videotapes of its employees Charlie said something like “Uh gee, duh, what?, ha ha ha!”
After Gibson’s embarrassing response, Sarah Palin’s response seems positively inspired!

TJP612
You are never going to get outrage.
I wanted Wilson to apologize from the House floor, only if he brought up the following:
1- Rangel’s tax evasion
2- Nancy Pelosi’s majority stake owner in STARKIST TUNA, Lobbies CONGRESS TO SUSPEND US WORKERS RIGHTS IN AMERICAN SAMOA – Coincidentally, American Samoa is where ALL STARKIST TUNA IS PACKED.
But the Media allows Nancy to ride her high horse WHILE IGNORING HER SUSPENSION OF BASIC LABOR LAWS AND RIGHTS FOR THOSE LIVING IN SAMOA.
My point, is that you won’t see the outrage in the Media. You see it in 2 million people that showed up in DC on 9/12 to protest. The media of course ignores them, and when they do acknowledge them, they are “Racists”

The fact that Tresa likes to make up stories about killing her husband is irrelevant to the fact that she offered to help set up a brothel for child prostitutes, much the same way that employees in 3 other Acorn offices did.

Try the truth — “Funny, none of the Republicans had an issue with ACORN during the 8 years Bush included them in his budget.”—
Bush never directly included them in his budget. They received funding through other government entities such as housing and urban development and the IRS which are both funded separately.
The only person who ever directly funded ACORN is Obama who built 4.5 billion into his so called stimulus bill to fund community organizers. There are other groups besides ACORN who might get a slice of this pie, but ACORN is far and away the largest of these groups and would receive the lion share of this money…

How was it clear that the ACORN staff was playing with them.
If they were, why didn’t ACORN call the police and have them removed..
-crickets chirping-
right, keep drinking that kool aid Diane
Maybe its a REAL NEWS STORY – Not that you would know a REAL NEWS STORY if it bit you in the bud. All that Daily Show and MSLSD have really gotten to you…
You might want to control that BDS problem you have.
“This whole thing should be a segment on the Daily Show, not invesitagive news! They dressed up like clowns and the staff was clearly messing with them / playing along with the clowns. The fact that Fox news can blow this up into something else is the real story that should be investigated.”

it’s dead stream media. stop watching. only a few can be trusted (ala fox)

It’s about time ABC acknowledged this story….too bad tapper can’t get the facts and have a link to the videos

Enough already.

Wow. Holy crap. There are people out there that are actually dumb enough to believe that this girl was being honest and not screwing with them?
A 20-something looking guy shows up at an organization that has been targeted lately dressed like a stereotypical pimp complete with “prostitute” and pitches a underage prostitution ring saying he wants to use the money to run for Congress, and he expects to be taken seriously? So Tresa Kaelke, obviously figuring something is foul, screws with him, then sends them across the street to her friend who she probably alerted who they were and to screw with them too.
I mean, I am not surprised at all that FOX “News” fell for it, but I guess that I gave too many Americans the benefit of doubt because apparently they can’t distinguish satire and sarcasm given through increasingly outlandish comments for reality.
“Dress it up as a school”? “I’ve never met you before, but I killed my husband and got away with it.”?
Wow.
America: Stop watching TV. It is clearly killing your brains.

BILL<——— Read the comments buddy, nobody up here is disputing the fact that she may have been playing up to a role for the camera…the fact is this is the first time ABC has publicly written an article about all of the ACORN scandals which happens to be one trying to discredit all other allegations of fraud and illegal tax credits towards prostitution, tax money paid by you (maybe) to support this brothel….thats the point Bill…please dont insult the masses on here like that, we know which way the wind is blowing.

The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

“Bush never directly included them in his budget. They received funding through other government entities such as housing and urban development and the IRS which are both funded separately.”
ROFLMAO!
Bush’s budget doesn’t include funding for HUD or the IRS?
Seriously the right wingers are so dishonest its mind boggling.
ACORN has never been directly included in any budget.
They compete for government money just like thousands of other non profits.

After she spoke to them, she sent them across the street to meet with Jim Miller. Was he in on the “Joke” too?
This lady looks & sounds like a crackpot. She had no clue she was being taped & was running her mouth.

What baffles me and most Americans who can’t help but be aware of the ACORN story is why ABC, which I’ve held as the most responsible news network, especially while Peter Jennings anchored, has largely ignored this story! Millions of our dollars are given to this organization and there are several investigations on voter fraud oand other reasons by several states and still no story?! Aren’t you our watchdog anymore, especially on something that directly affects us, the public? The only reason I see for your inaction and the incredible clincher by the former “news” anchor, Charlie Gibson, “I’m not aware of this story…” (What!!) comment, is that the ABC network is no longer a news network to be trusted. I’m sorry to say this but I’m afreaid I have no choice but to turn to “cable news” that Charlie Gibson appears to have derided. This is awful…please say “this ain’t so, ABC.”

ROFLMAO!
Bush’s budget doesn’t include funding for HUD or the IRS?
Seriously the right wingers are so dishonest its mind boggling.
ACORN has never been directly included in any budget.
They compete for government money just like thousands of other non profits.
Ryan C<————– I would read that guys comment again! I think you just mad yourself look very uninformed…I know consider everything you say a waste of time.

This is likely a criminal enterprise. Oh, how they make up stories and lies when caught. We are talking about ACORN reps helping set up a whorehouse with 12 year old prostitutes. And Charlie Gibson missed it. Is he brain dead??? No more ABC for me.

Ryan,
You are a LIER
Obama SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED ACORN IN THE 2009 BUDGET.
Put the kool aid down and get your FACTS straight.

ABC,
Thank you for running this story. If this corruption goes unchecked it will be the end of the Republic. This should be front page.
ACORN will only re-invent itself and open under another name. This is organized criminal organization and the pressure must stay on after they are shut down. Prosecution of employees is a must!
Next to go down, the Appolo Alliance.

I was surprised to see the mention of ACORN at all on ABC, but as I read the story, I realized my error. After a few sentences and another mention of “Fox” the writer redirects his topic to that of proving a semi-mad woman didn’t actually kill her husband (she was bragging a little to much, eh?) and which government official buys sex. WHAT? Bottom line people … it’s not often that we have the opportunity to stop the spending of our own money by a government that cares more about winning than serving. Were several ACORN employees trying to help some shady (openly) characters fill out a form to receive government money to be used in an illegal manner? That one seems like a no-brainer, but everyone is more concerned with … “who said what first and how can I make it mine.” If you are okay with spending your money in that manner, then make sure you raise your hand the next time the government is looking for another tax-payer handout … which should be in about five minutes. You can chip in for me too. I have a family to raise, legally. WAKE UP!!

Hey I’m no Vitter fan, but from what I know he was getting busy with his own money.
It’s the fact that these ACORN vermin are taxpayer-funded that sort of forces me to care.

What the hell is this “ACORN” that everyone’s talking about?

What happened to all the real investigative reporters,that brought us the news,of corruption and crooked scams pulled on the Tax Payers of America?Every News outlet should be reporting corruptness of ACORN,and stop making excuses for the criminals. Get your heads out of the sand and let the blood letting begin.

“So promotion of underage postitiution is OK? This is what you support?”
ROFLMAO!
Just to recap.
In the right wing mind….
Fake prostitution that never happened nor was going to happen is horrid.
Real prostitution services used by Sen Vitter are a ok.

Ryan C-
Keep drinking the kool aid buddy. Slup!

uMM, As long as Vitter visited a women over 18 – i could care less what happens in his bedroom or what he does in a brothel
attempting to traffic illegal underage girls… sorry no fing comparison

“No one here is going to shout back your opinion. We do not agree with you.”
You are of course entitled to your own set of arguments but not your own set of facts.
You claimed ACORN was directly funded.
You lied.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

“uMM, As long as Vitter visited a women over 18 – i could care less what happens in his bedroom or what he does in a brothel”
Prostitution is illegal.
And how do we know that Vitter’s prostitute was of age….or a woman.

The reason these videos are worthless as evidence of wrong doing is that AFAIK, they never actually film the questioner asking his questions.
No real journalist would do this, It leaves open the possibility that the film was edited to add incriminating questions after the fact.
Surely if ACORN is as bad as you say, there exists a more convincing entrapment than this one.
This is why the vast middle of America takes such little interest in these shenanigans. Anyone who hasn’t already drank the cool-aide (Left or RIGHT) can see that this is just another episode in the endless gotcha wars that extremists of both political stripes play.

“FACTCHECK.ORG UNTIL FRIDAY 9/11 CLAIMED THAT ACORN WAS NOT – NOT- INVOLVED IN THE 2010 CENSUS.”
Fact Check
June 26, 2009
Q: Is ACORN providing workers for the 2010 census?
A: No. ACORN employees will not be taking the census. The group is one of more than 30,000 “partners” that will help publicize the event.”
Th lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Ryan (crtl) C -
“Fake prostitution that never happened nor was going to happen is horrid.”
You didn’t answer my question.
The lesson as always? Ryan (ctrl) C deflects and re-directs and takes no positions of his own.

Hey, ABC, its nice that you talked about this video and at least gave it some WEB time but did ya know that this is only one of several video’s exposing ACORN?
This next section posted above was dead on…
“I was surprised to see the mention of ACORN at all on ABC, but as I read the story, I realized my error. After a few sentences and another mention of “Fox” the writer redirects his topic to that of proving a semi-mad woman didn’t actually kill her husband (she was bragging a little to much, eh?) and which government official buys sex.”
ABC, you are losing viewers and are respect….

The San Bernadino woman was a nut. Even more reason to withhold public funding.

he classic Alinsky crap.
Sorry – to smart to buy that bridge you are trying to sell.
Posted by: halo
admit it, you hadn’t even heard of Alinsky before last month, when you heard it from Rush or Beck…… and
is that bridge in Alaska, you remember, the one that goes to nowhere?

“People, RyanC works for either Obama, ACORN, or ABC.”
I speculated the IT Helpdesk at the CA DMV…

The lesson for the day? Right wingers are paranoid.
Posted by: Ryan C |
The lesson as always is that OJ couldn’t find a corrupt Democrat if you spotted him a B-L-A-G-O

Boehner and Vitter commit two logical fallacies. Their argument has the form:
1. The stimulus bill provides funding for redeveloping neighborhoods.
2. ACORN does work in redeveloping neighborhoods.
3. Therefore the stimulus bill provides funding for ACORN.”
Like I have said, ACORN could compete for fed money just like it did under the Bush admin. But there is not direct funding of ACORN.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2009 1:11:14 PM
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I suspect you lost them at “logical fallacy.” I’ve noticed that not many of the right wing liars get how all that works.

I just find it amusing that Charlie Gibson claimed ignorance even after the Congressional vote to pull ACORN funds. It must be time for retirement…

Ryan (ctrl) C deflects and re-directs and takes no positions of his own.
Posted by: tjp612 | Sep 16, 2009 1:31:01 PM
The projections and hypocrisy stuns, as Ryan takes many positions, cites facts and tjp parrots Beck, worries about what everyone else is doing and where they’re from without ever posting anything of substance. Creeps me out.

.someone enslaved to loser liberal ideology with an ability to search/copy/paste, without an original thought of one’s own. Sounds about right.
Posted by: tjp612 | Sep 16, 2009 1:42:51 PM
As opposed to someone who projects their limited social circles and enslavement to ideology onto others loudly and often, while parroting Glenn Beck and totalitarian objectivism — but hey, tjp didn’t vote between 1992 and 2008 so, you know, he’s an expert on, uh, everything. Eyeroll.
Creeps me out.

Hey Charlie. . .What do you think about the ACORN Doctrine?

Actually halo, I’m an Independent that leans Libertarian, but I really hate it when either individual conservatives or liberals paint the other-side as all bad. That’s sterotyping and doesn’t contribute to the debate. I guess I have a better opinion of the human race since I believe that most people want to do good and that yes, there are a few bad apples. Yes, I believe that even you, halo, have the best interests of the country at heart. Do you think that is b.s. as well? BTW, I really don’t give a rat’s behind if any politician visits prostitutes on their own dime. I just care when they throw stones at others for doing the same.

So the sleazy ACORN lady lied about nurder in the video. Jake, that doesn’t change the fact that ACORNers are slimeballs and should never get any tax money. These are Obama’s kind of people, which tells us a whole lot about the Slimeball-in-Chief.

I’m going to assume
Posted by: jodie
that should be the new political theme for the ‘right’ and republicans………

Better get off this Jake, your network seems to think this story is “noise” and they don’t cover noise. Don’t want to see you get fired or anything.

This kind of bias in our country’s mainstream news organizations is, in a word, scary. Regardless of the yet to be proven veracity of the videos, this was a huge story. Where have you been for the past 5 days? Where were you during the Van Jones revelations? Your silence speaks volumes. Anyone who refuses to report on corruption, or even “alleged” corruption, is part of the corruption. Has FCC Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd’s aspiration for state controlled communications already been achieved in television broadcasting? Since he likes revolutions (Chavez – Venezuela) perhaps he should try censoring Fox. Do your job and stop trying to get us off point; we’re just not that stupid. And by the way, if the dog bites the cat and I tell about it, am I a “canineist”?

“I think you’re a creep, and your tactics and politics creep me out but I kick box and certainly am not above kicking back hard or below the belt against a dirty fighter, obviously. Prefer civil discourse, but believe strongly in fighting back against lying nuts and blow hards.”
Witness what liberals do when facts become inconvenient…

Yes, because Chicago has such fantastic ideological diversity. Good one.
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And you live somewhere with more diversity than a very large metropolitan area with suburbs in six counties and multiple urban centers outside of the city with over 100k populations? Riiiiight.

So you guys are finally covering the story. Too little and too late. I don’t watch any of the government run and paid for media stations. If you want to call this media.

2:15pm –hey ABC, you’re a little behind Fox again, not only did Gibson laugh off the ACORN problems(video), FOX just announced that Bertha (ACORN) said they were halting all loan approvals, etc. and appointing an independent review. But Charlie G. says they only have 20 min.at night to cover the news and let the cable cover this type of media. I used to trust Charlie and ABC but not anymore !!

Mortal blow to right wing:
U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land has thrown out a complaint questioning the president’s birth from an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq and gave a warning to her lawyer, ‘birther’ maven Orly Taitz.
Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever files a similar “frivolous” lawsuit in his court.

As a proud Democrat I stand behind an investigation into ACORN and leaders around them!
Hillary in 2012!!

oh yeah, this is a discussion about acorn not about the birther movement.

……Madame Acorn just proves a point. This whole organization is more than slightly out of balance, and we have to be nuts if we put up with their crap any longer…..write the President….write your congressperson…hell, even your Czar….banish this bunch of loose screws to another planet….next:SEIU

ROFLMAO!
Poor tjp, getting his butt kicked tag team style.

I have been an ABC News viewer for 25 years. Charlie, I thought you were a decent guy. Man, did I ever get a wrong number. Sorry ABC, you have lost another viewer. I hope your support of the Leftistas is worth the losses.

Seriously? A backblow? What a waste of words. Of course that lady isn’t going to admit that she was serious about what she said. Who would be when they know it was COMPLETELY against the law. Come on, guys. Why call yourself a journalist if you get outdone by two young people who don’t have as much behind their belts as you guys supposedly do.

ABC headline on it’s homepage “Shocking ACORN Video Made Up?”
This is why people are fuming that ABC has finally covered ACORN and they a make an accusation that the video is fake.
The Left-wing media at its’ best.

“Posted by: oh yeah | Sep 16, 2009 2:13:35 PM”
Just read the decision
Its available at politi jab if anyone is interested.

Seriously, lost me as a viewer as well. Journalism is dead….
It’s a shame that it takes 20 year olds to do investigative journalism these days….
I’m glad that the cat returned home after 1,000 mile journey…but I’m pretty sure this is more important news.

This is about ACORN and not Vitter. Maybe he did make some mistakes in the past and he should get his own for that but does that make it ok to keep giving our tax dollars to ACORN? If we are going to start using that defense, we might as well start giving money to anyone who asks. I think ABC dropped the ball on reporting the real story here. American’s tax dollars are going to fund these people. Let tell them that and let them decide what happens.

“tjp, you have not presented any expertise or proof of expertise on this subject. Just a lot of speculation and guesswork for which you end up apologizing later.”
More evidence of delusion. Just like you accused me of “stalking” you.
Ridiculous.

wow jake…i actually had hope for you. you were one of the very few reporting on this besides fox. are you going to discount the other three videos too. or are you just a racist…insinuating this one must be fake because it involves a white person and all the other ones are real because they involve black people.
our national dialogue has become crazy. can we please start reporting the news without ideology or bias.
stop diverting attention from the fraud this group is involved with…investigate the fraud…and report on that!

We need an army of hungry squirrels set
out to hunt down ACORNS. Obviously,
the Obama-media wants no part of helping
us. They’re too busy putting up Detour
signs around the Prez. Charley “One
Onion” Gibson wonders what all the fuss
is about. Just leave, Gibson….the
sooner the better.

Obama is Acorn, Acorn is Obama. Who is going out to get his votes next election?

How stupid is ABC & Charley Gibson. He hadn’t heard about the Acorn probs…this is why I don’t listen to either!

That was a low blow. Stick to the topic, do not pull from someones past history to try to divert attention away from this “organization” that is finally coming undone. Maybe there is hope for America.

So let me get this straight…the woman didn’t really kill her husband and Vitter saw a prostitute so that offsets ACORN aiding a prostitution ring. Right.

It’s funny that NBC, CBS and ABC news are learning a lesson on investigative reporting from a 20 year old. Whatever happened with 20/20, Front line, 60 minutes, and the rest of those investigative news organizations? Have they become toothless tigers? Are they too busy reporting on the Obama’s dog? Just looking at the ABC front page, you find articles about Beer Fans, some cat faced woman, and J. Simpson’s dog. Is this the same press that says it is the watchman of our government and our freedoms. The noble press isn’t so noble anymore. They have become over rated gossip columnists. Will they be asking the military to rescue them when their stuck in a traffic jam or needing help crossing the street. So much for the guardians of the republic!

Just like democrats to turn something around to cast a dark shadow on an republican. What really, was the point? Was it relevant to the column?

Shoot the messenger, what a idiot.

“ACORN is an employer of last resort for many people. Not much more then min. wage, so the employees are not going to be much smarter. It is not a conspiracy any more the the security video of burger employees being to to strip search a co-worker. This is just a distraction.”
Carlo, If what you say is true,it should scare the sh– out of you to think that these “min. wage” workers are given such leeway with their abiliity to “counsel” anyone who comes into their office. A mere distraction? Maybe ABC subscribes to your way of thinking (which would explain their lack of judgement in NOT reporting this story!!).

Mortal blow to right wing:
U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land has thrown out a complaint questioning the president’s birth from an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq and gave a warning to her lawyer, ‘birther’ maven Orly Taitz.
Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever files a similar “frivolous” lawsuit in his court.
Posted by: oh yeah | Sep 16, 2009 2:13:35 PM
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Interesting. You would think the party of tort reform would appreciate the fact that Taitz has been put on notice.

If she was screwing with them, she would have been dropping Republican names for connections, not Dems.

When will you FOX viewers realize how phony they are? Are you really all that easily duped?

As a taxpayer, I am outraged that my tax dollars go to an organization that pays this woman’s salary.

That’s only for people trying to sue corporations that give their kids cancer.
Posted by: Ryan C
right… just trust the corporations.. they’ll always do the right thing and never hurt anyone

Move on, please. You are “creeping me out” (borrowed that one from you, we are even).
Posted by: tjp612 | Sep 16, 2009 2:55:30 PM
Hahahahaha. I’ll respect your “move on” requests when you learn to respect mine. Fair, tjp from planet 612?

“When will you FOX viewers realize how phony they are?”
Never.
The right wing simply pretends that times when FoxNews was shown to be lying never happened.
Its a convenient political amnesia.
“Are you really all that easily duped?”
Yes.
Sadly, yes they are.

This is awesome. When the truth comes out that she is lying to Acorn and the Press too, the jigg is up and all the MSM and ACORN issues will have to be reported on.

“And yes it would be awkward for him and the party to be on the Senate floor when most of the Republicans are discussing a prostitution ring supposedly being helped by ACORN when one of ACORN’s biggest critics frequented a prostitution ring.”
Eliot Spitzer is one of ACORN’S biggest critics?

Ryan C,
the prostitution ring was fictional. How does a fictional prostitution ring draw attention to the senators past indiscretions? Sorry, but that connection is just too flimsy for me. Most likely, no one would even remember (or care) about the senator’s past association with a prostitute if democrats and ABC hadn’t been so eager to issue reminders.

“the prostitution ring was fictional. How does a fictional prostitution ring draw attention to the senators past indiscretions?”
Indiscretion?
Visiting a prostitute is not an indiscretion, its illegal.
ROFLMAO!
This is utterly hilarious.
Right wingers have gone from screaming about a fake prostitution ring to defending actual prostitution.

OH NO…here come the Your a Racist remarks…lmao

“New statement from ACORN chief executive Bertha Lewis said in a written statement that she was “ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN’s service programs”
So what are the ACORN supporters here going to say? Still support them now that the cheif executive says they are “indefensible”.”
ROFLMAO!
Right wing reading comprehension at work.
Bertha Lewis is criticizing the workers not ACORN, there genius.
So supporters of ACORN can still support ACORN while finding the actions of several workers repugnant.

Ryan,
Obama said out of his own mouth to judge him by who he surrounds himself with…thats all im doing. Acorn is corrupt and Obama has been involved with them for a long long time.

“Acorn fights for minimum wage increase, yet doesn’t want to pay minimum wage to staff.”
The hypocrisy is a bit deeper: The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) found that ACORN violated the National Labor Relations Act and required the group to rehire and pay restitution to employees terminated for attempting to form a union.
Summary:
- ACORN fights for minimum wage increase, yet doesn’t want to pay minimum wage to staff
- ACORN is joined at the hip with the SEIU but is not in favor of a union representing ACORN workers
Another day, more hypocrisy, and more lies in the Age of Obama.

“ryan…read tappers latest post…you look foolish!”
He doesn’t need to read Tapper’s last post to do that…

Obama has been involved with them for a long long time.
Posted by: ojo | Sep 16, 2009 3:28:12 PM
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This is false. Read fact checks and prior posts here.

John A
They are supressing the stories they want to suppress. They are reporting on what they want to report on.
NBC got money from Obama in the bail out
The NY Times will also be recieving money from the Obama administration.
ABC got an “all day, all Barack, all the time” day for health care reform.
This administration has made very clear that “journalism” and the “media” are solidly behind Obama.
Ask yourself why.
Then ask, as Deep Throat did “follow the money”
You can figure this out.

David Vitter went to someone who is over the age of consent. Why is he even mentioned in this? Oh because Vitter was one for the 80 or so Senators that blocked and removed funding for ACORN? Oh right.
Jay, not sure why Vitter is mentioned at all. Except for the usual obfuscation of the truth we have come to expect from the alphabet networks..

Vitter used tax dollars? I don’t think so. ACORN subornation of illegal activities subsidized by my tax dollars is infuriating. Vitter’s problem is with his wife and the voters of LA.
We can explain the difference, but we cannot understand it for you.
If you folks want a story on hypocrisy – look at the media under GWB and now. Imagine Halliburton is ACORN. Would you sit on it? Justify it? Use “Tu Quoque” logic (even if it fails the sniff test – you tried)?
ACORN is on Obama’s resume – he ‘trained’ the community activists similar to these on tape. Has ABC reported the story yet? Does Gibson think it’s still ‘noise’?
Hypocrits.

Acorn is Corrupt

So FAUX “News” got punked by a member of ACORN?
ROTFLMAO!

As a taxpayer, I am outraged that my tax dollars go to an organization that pays this woman’s salary.
Posted by: millie
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Why? Because she punked Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck AND Faux News?

illegal activities subsidized by my tax dollars is infuriating.
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Sever all ties with Blackwater?
Sever all ties with faithbased initiatives from Catholics?
Cut the subsidies to oil companies?

ACORN fired the Black employees, but not this White one?
Posted by: Elaina
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Why should ACORN fire the ‘White one’? Because she punked Beck and Hannity and Faux News?

What’s all the fuss about? Just because they were using our tax dollars to give consulting on how to set up an international child sex trafficking enterprise? Oh, yeah, the ABC story doesn’t even mention that part….I wonder why not?

Thanks Dagney – you are 100% correct.
According to the Marxist text book, the “government head” must own the news media to be successful. That is why Obama will never be on FOX in an interview situation with any of the reporters. And that is why Chavez (Obama’s Buddy) is shutting down stations in Venezuela.

“So can I get a straight answer from a right winger?”
So Ryan C supports ACORN’s actions. Nice.

Thanks Dagney – you are 100% correct.
According to the Marxist text book, the “government head” must own the news media to be successful. That is why Obama will never be on FOX in an interview situation with any of the reporters. And that is why Chavez (Obama’s Buddy) is shutting down stations in Venezuela.
Posted by: John A | Sep 16, 2009 4:28:00 PM
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Yeah ABC, msnbc, NYT and others are basically owned by the DNC. The lack of reporting on significant issues recently is very telling. They don’t even both to try to hide it anymore.
Jake Tapper is one of the very few good columnists left with abc. Thanks to Jake for exposing issues from both sides and I don’t fault that his stories likely get watered down some from editors and executives. Jake is the only one from abc even reporting some of these issues.

“NEW TAPE FROM SAN DIEGO TONIGHT ON HANNITY! JAKE, WILL YOU LET CHARLIE KNOW?”
LOL!

As a taxpayer, I am outraged that my tax dollars go to an organization that pays this woman’s salary.
Posted by: millie
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Why? Because she punked Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck AND Faux News?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | Sep 16, 2009 4:11:34 PM
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She punked them? All she did was tell a fanciful tale. She works in an office that receives a lot of tax money. She should have shown them the door. If she had, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now.
I for one don’t want my tax dollars being used so that low-level Acorn workers can pull pranks on people. I can think of abundant better uses for that money.

“I seem to recall you defending ACORN constantly during the election.”
Not surprisingly you recall incorrectly.
Though I did laugh at right wing conspiracy whining post election that ACORN had stolen it by registering Tony Romo and Mickey Mouse.

“I seem to recall you defending ACORN constantly during the election.”
Not surprisingly you recall incorrectly.
Though I did laugh at right wing conspiracy whining post election that ACORN had stolen it by registering Tony Romo and Mickey Mouse.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2009 5:03:54 PM
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In some states its looking like close to 50% of its registrations were fraudulent?
How much time and money is it taking the states to pay for ACORN employee fraud?
How accurate could some same day registrations be with this happening?
To me the big issue with this is not the fraudulent registrations themselves but the combination of that and politicians (democrats mostly) pushing to keep ID from being necessary to vote. That combo of issues is the big issue at hand.

Ryan C supports ACORN

“As a taxpayer, I am outraged that my tax dollars go to an organization that pays this woman’s salary.
Posted by: millie”
Where ya been, honey? Your buddy W used Billions of OUR tax money, not just your three bucks, to KILL THOUSANDS of INNOCENT folks in Iraq!! Real LIVING and BREATHING people. Dead.
And you are miffed about ACORN?

“In some states its looking like close to 50% of its registrations were fraudulent?”
ROFLMAO!
New right wing lies to go with the old ones.
“How much time and money is it taking the states to pay for ACORN employee fraud?”
None. States have to verify voter registrations.
A few ACORN workers ripping off ACRON by submitting phony registrations does not bother me nearly as much as Republican firms chnaging people registrations and having them sign petitions that are misrepresented.
LAT”SACRAMENTO — Dozens of newly minted Republican voters say they were duped into joining the party by a GOP contractor with a trail of fraud complaints stretching across the country.
Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.”
FoxNews may not have shown it so you may be unaware.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 16, 2009 5:27:44 PM
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Gee what a shock. I try to stick to issues and you try making snide remarks. It is not “a few acorn employees.”.
Your statement of it costing nothing is a joke. Don’t they have to take time to invalidate all the EXTRA registrations? Couldn’t they be doing something else instead?
That type of fraud you mention happens by both parties it just does not consist of a nationwide group doing the same thing across multiple states.
I noticed you also ignored the rest of my post regarding the REAL problem. I guess you want to pretend that possibility doesn’t exist. I’m so surprised.

“I noticed you also ignored the rest of my post regarding the REAL problem. I guess you want to pretend that possibility doesn’t exist. I’m so surprised.”
What is the real problem?
Are people showing up and voting under other people’s names?
Are people voting under Tony Romo and Mickey Mouse?
Or does the right wing want to be able to challenge and intimidate minorities (specifically hispanics) from voting?
Though you do bring up an interesting point to go off on a tangent, combined with the demand for citizenship verification for health services and the need for ID at polling places, should we issue a national ID?

“I noticed you also ignored the rest of my post regarding the REAL problem. I guess you want to pretend that possibility doesn’t exist. I’m so surprised.”
What is the real problem?
Are people showing up and voting under other people’s names?
Are people voting under Tony Romo and Mickey Mouse?
Or does the right wing want to be able to challenge and intimidate minorities (specifically hispanics) from voting?
Though you do bring up an interesting point to go off on a tangent, combined with the demand for citizenship verification for health services and the need for ID at polling places, should we issue a national ID?
Posted by: Ryan C
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Blah blah blah more racism insinuation. Guess what you don’t control the topic either.
Its sad when you insist on focusing on small, isolated issues being important and the big issues that matter being a “tangent.” However you are a liberal so I don’t really expect you to be able to see the forest.

“Blah blah blah more racism insinuation. Guess what you don’t control the topic either.”
Except I never demanded you stay on my topic.
And yeah there is racist voter suppression out there including from minority neighborhoods being plastered with fliers stating anyone with a parking ticket will be arrested if they show up to vote to armed militia members confronting Hispanic voters in SW states demanding identification.
Posted by: Ryan C
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Well as I recall in this year’s election there was just 1 that was proven and charged; the New Black Panther’s party intimidators. However the upstanding Marc Rich pardoning DOJ head dismissed it without cause along with the Richardson pay to play case.
Yeah real fine DOJ we’re running now.

“Well as I recall in this year’s election there was just 1 that was proven and charged; the New Black Panther’s party intimidators. However the upstanding Marc Rich pardoning DOJ head dismissed it without cause along with the Richardson pay to play case.”
Pardoned?
First Holder has not pardoned anyone nor is he in power to do so.
Second, it was a civil suit that was dropped after an injunction had been granted.
The dishonesty on the right is near pathological

“For months, David Vitter has been leading the charge to deny federal money to ACORN, but as soon as the topic of prostitution comes up, he doesn’t even show up to work,” said Louisiana Democratic Party Spokesman Kevin Franck.
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Yeah, Kevin Franck – I can see how paying a consenting adult prostitute is EXACTLY like using a child enslaved for sex. At least in a liberal’s mind…

Jake, take it from me, you have been out “Foxed”!
I am afraid your credibility is waning.

“Well as I recall in this year’s election there was just 1 that was proven and charged; the New Black Panther’s party intimidators. However the upstanding Marc Rich pardoning DOJ head dismissed it without cause along with the Richardson pay to play case.”
To which Ryan C responds:
“Pardoned?”
No, Ryan C. He didn’t say “pardoned”. He said dismissed.
“First Holder has not pardoned anyone nor is he in power to do so.”
posted by Ryan C
No shi*, Sherlock. The guy never said Holder pardoned the new Black Panthers. He did, however, play an advisory role in the Clinton pardoning of Rich.
Second, it was a civil suit that was dropped after an injunction had been granted.
And what, exactly does that prove? Besides, Holder’s DOJ dismissed the suit after Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson defaulted. They had a slam dunk case and they flushed it down the toilet.
“The dishonesty on the right is near pathological.”
If the shoe fits.

ACORN has been caught on video using tax dollars to aid in the setup of a brothel, importation of underage girls and illegal aliens, lie to the IRS, lie to the police, and numerous other offenses. Caught in 5/5 offices to date.
And Jake Tapper, one of the few at ABC with a modicum of credibility left, wants to use that as a lead in to attack Vitter?
That’s really pathetic.

ACORN has every indication of being an organized racketeering scam funded by the US government. If there ever was a case screaming for an indictment on RICO charges by a Special Prosecutor, ACORN is the biggest. Not that Marc Rich buddy Eric Holder would ever do anything so ethical. He’s a little political hit-man and tout, not an AG at the DOJ.

The videos “SEEM to show” ??? Are you kidding?

The real problem with Acorn is its management. It is the responsibility of the manager to hire/fire employees and train volunteers/employees to fit the culture of the company. When you start seeing these types of employees, it becomes apparent that management is either negligent or endorsing this type of behavior.

The real shame is how the mainstream media, ie, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. tries to use this story as a way to hammer at the ones trying to show how corrupt ACORN is. Also, why doesn’t the mainstream media do what they used to do, ie, go undercover and show corruption in the USA. Is it because they are all in bed with the Obama administration? YOU BET.

Murdering “an” ex-husband, not “the” ex-husband. Hope they do a better job looking into her background than they did looking in Dugard’s backyard.

Well, ACORN doesn’t just give advise. They have all the appropriate forms for people seeking housing to fill out, and they offer assistance in doing so. O’Keefe and Giles don’t really have the goods unless they produce some kind of physical evidence beyond the video footage. They haven’t produced any paperwork that would suggest that they were actually assisted by ACORN employees.
The ACORN employees have stated that they knew from the start the two youths were not a pimp and a prostitute. They claim that they played along with the two for fun. While this may sound absurd after seeing the videos, it actually holds more water than the claims of O’Keefe and Giles until the two release the recordings in their entirety and unedited, and/or produce physical evidence, such as housing/tax related paperwork, which would show that they actually received assistance from ACORN in their faux scheme.
People have seen ‘Borat’, and are becoming wise to this sort of thing. Often times Stephen Colbert’s guests will attempt to out-Colbert him (usually making themselves look stupid). O’keefe himself has said he’s the last person you’d take for a pimp. So you have the maker (and editor) of the videos telling you straight away that he’s walking into these acorn offices looking like a gag.
I understand the respective police departments are investigating these offices/employees. O’keefe will surely be Subpoenaed for all the footage they’ve shot.
Keep in mind, O’keefe and Giles pulled this stunt in twenty-four different cities. Should it be revealed that he attempted to edit videos in cities where his stings were unsuccessful to make it appear as though they were, or worse: they find footage of the supposedly complicit employees telling him at the end of their meetings, anything along the lines of “Alright kids, you’ve had you fun, but we have work to do”, O’keefe may find himself on the business end of his own investigation.
I believe this story has yet to take shape. We shall see what the coming weeks reveal.