In Advance of the G20, Obama Continues Push for Regulatory Reform

I feel too much BS from Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama likes Batman, but what Sgt. Crowley did was to protect like Batman. And if a cop hits a Black or White man with a baton, he would give you BS lessons with words and speeches. But Batman kicks and kills lawlessly at criminals.

The banks were helped.Bank of America……How about the little guy who pays his bill the banks are still. unfair

Does Obama know, he has gotten us into MORE DEBT than this country has ever seen?!!!!!!!! We are paying 5B, every two weeks in interest. China who Clinton sold us to, is buying our debt and could very well take over our country, all because Obama is continuing his Chicago Acorn work through the presidency, giving free everything to these people. What a shame he doesn’t realize he’s helping them to be HELPLESS, instead of productive.

Worse economic times will come in the very near future. The only thing we have done is to put a band-aid on cancer. Obama is of course only one leader among many that have bought into corporatism and inflationism. Bush was terrible and so were many others before him. How about a little Ron Paul Kool-aid folks?

“Because of your tirelessly efforts Mr President we will recover, and the global community will benifit from it.”
LOL!

The United States created this huge worldwide economic crisis, yet nobody who contributed to it has gone to prison. I wonder why that is.

If and when economies recover it will not be because of Government intervention (Remember, Government caused this mess by not enforcing their own rules and regulations), recovery will be simple survival instincts by individuals and businesses and nothing more and will not happen for years.

“Support Ron Paul folks. He has been speaking the truth for decades.”
True that. Peter Schiff and Karl Denninger as well.

here we go again – I am no constitutional lawyer, but it appears to me that everything that has happened has been in direct contradiction to what the constitution allows. So I guess it depends on what laws you are looking at, the law of the land, etc. I encourage you to watch Judge Napolitano’s Freedom Watch to see what actions the government and businesses do that are in direct opposition to the constitution.

The G20 – The International Convention of Tyrants

gman – Band-aid on cancer like I said. I really feel for Obama because he has stepped into a mess that has been building in earnest for 3 decades now. It doesn’t matter what democratic or republican puppet you put in there, America will look very different 5 years from now. As Peter Schiff says, “The party is over for the US”. I happen to believe this.

gman – Do you have any reasoning behind your “hope”? I look at the monetary base, artificially low interest rates, national debt, obligatory debt, existing morality in this country, education level of the masses, over-regulation stifling small businesses, government takeovers and bailouts leading to socialism and so on. Really it is the book Atlas Shrugged in a nutshell. What are you looking at that gives you so much hope?

“really kept Fannie/Freddie honest” — OMG are you so out of touch that you didn’t know that the loans that fell that caused the crises were NOT made by fannie and freddie. GOOGLE “Business Week Fannie Freddie Victims” because MONTHS ago this was debunks by my God, how STUPID are republicans that you STILL do not know!!! The loans that caused the meltdown WERE the unregulated loans made in the PRIVATE SECTOR!!!!! Fannie and Freddie made GOOD LOANS with much stricter lending standards. Fannie and Freddie went down because they INVESTED in the same crap derivatives that everyone else did. FANNIE AND FREDDIE DID NOT MAKE BAD LOANS!!! LOOK IT UP! BUSINESS WEEK MAGAZINE exposed this about a freakn Year ago, but gee, how shocking some numbskull republican didn’t HEAR THE NEWS!!! shocking.

Regardless of best intentions. Most of the people in office now will be gone when their big ideas go into effect. Those that fail or turn bad will not be easy to correct, and the jerk that created the problem is on a tropical beach somewhere.

justsayn – And I am just saying that Ron Paul was on the house floor in 2002 and 2003 saying that Fannie and Freddie were insolvent, would result in a housing collapse, and result in a global meltdown. Is Ron Paul clairvoyant?

Gee Mr President maybe you out to quit campaigning for you health care and come out to Las vegas and look at all the empty buildings that use to have businesses in them and all the unfinished comercial projects then drive to california and talke to the unemployed people. things are not getting better obama they are worse since you took over.

“Both parties are corrupt” —this isn’t about political corruptions . Not the financial mess. Private industry is corrupt and the republican party platform ,their theory of government is to have no regulations and allow business to do what they will to make money. Period. NO LAWS were broken and yes, Frank did nothing wrong but WARN US about 6 months before the crises that we were headed for “economic blackmail”. Remember??? Oh yeah, you’re one of those who listen to entertainment radio and tv, not news, I guess you never heard. I did. I heard it, and I saw it happen. And I read Business Week Magazine and The Economist Magazine so I know the fiction that fannie and freddie MADE those loans is what it is – FICTION- they did not. PRIVATE UNREGUALTED mortage compaines did and it was not agains the law. betting on the loans with derivatives was no illegal. Ratings that meant NOTHING was not illegal and republicans must OWN that all those illegal activities that brought us down in the 30′s happened again because we had 8 years of republican economic theory at work, just like what caused the Great Depression and just like Hoover, what do Republicans call for??? cutting spending – just like Hoover did!!! And thank GOD we do NOT have a republican in right now, becaues he would have taken us from a recession to a Depression just like Hoover did. Thank GOD we got Obama in when we did.

Our only hope at any serious banking regulation – PBS’s Nightly Business Report is complaining the bankers are inventing ever more risky instruments again – is if the foreign countries force the USA to do right – and our huge foreign debt built over the past eight years puts us in a weak enough position to have to cave.
That’s a good thing, because of Congress is too bought by the bankers to do what’s right anymore.

“Why didn’t Democrats who were providing FEDERAL OVERSIGHT of the housing market and pushed hard for subprime lending WARN us of the housing implosion during the last two years of Bush’s term? “—-THEY DID!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY DO YOU NOT KNOW??????? Do you recall the congressional hearings on “Predatorial Lending Practices”???????? WHERE WERE YOU???????

“Our only hope at any serious banking regulation.”
Banking is the most heavily regulated industry we have.

Is that what you consider progress in the Obamabot alternative universe?………… I’ll tell you what! you give our beloved President his due time to implement all the changes he need to corrected all the screw ups from the previous admin and stop your contant judgement of what should be obvious he did’nt create and do your best to help acheive that goal, than and only that will I even consider any of your rants.

I am no constitutional lawyer, but it appears to me that everything that has happened has been in direct contradiction to what the constitution allows—- I would encourage you to listen to some real news sources. NO LAWS were broken and there are no laws in the constitution that regulate how securities are formed, rated and traded or how mortages must have income verification,…etc. Be serious. IF you want LAWS to keep businesses honest, and you voted repulican, then you can essentially put the blame for this crises collectively on yourself and everyone else who voted republican over the past 8 years. Republican economic theory is all about NO LAWS regulating business and “hindering them” from making money.

A 2.3 trillion “accounting error” (ie. they can’t find the money) announced the day before 911, all of these pork barrell spending bills to fund the wars, and trillion dollar giveaways to corporations, while they outsource jobs overseas, and don’t pay taxes (just like the government “regulators”) THIS is a “recovery”. Whatever Obama is smoking, let me have some, I may be sick enough to be on my deathbed, but I surely won’t care!!! (Just like he doesn’t, and that idiot before him–BUSH!!!)

justysayn – The risk in Fannie and Freddie were there and Ron Paul saw it. Give credit where credit is due. Regulation will not work because there is always a way around them. Not to mention we have to pay entities to regulate, and then we have to pay others to regulate the regulators to make sure they are not corrupt and so on, and we are broke. The Ponzi schemes of Fractional Reserve Banking, social security, medicare, etc. are parts of the problem. The Feds ability to set interest rates below the rate of inflation, and creating money from nothing based on nothing is a big part of the problem. Regulate that if you want to regulate something. Then the fact that the risk in doing business is gone is a huge part of the problem. We don’t prosecute these bankers, then we bail them out and give them bonuses. Government intervention into our economy has caused all sorts of problems.

You’re a small business owner. You’re looking at cap-and-trade, Obamacare =—–You’re a small business and healthcare costs would kill you. either that or you do not offer healthcare coverage to your employees and in that case, who cares if the government offers a public healthcare insurance policy because that means YOU are buying your plan on your own, or you have none nad in that case, a government option to get health insurance at a rate lower than going as a single person to get a plan helps you, so I dont know what you’re complaining about. If you offer health insurance, and now EVERYONE has health insurance, your plan you buy will cheaper becuase hospitals et al, are not passing on all their unpaid bills to you to pay for, so in that case, again, having a public plan offered to all citizens helps you. As far as ‘cap and trade’ irrelevent. What do small businesses pollute? what small business pollutes so much it would affect their bottom line? Irrelevent in the big scheme of running your business. In terms of Obama offering tax credits to those who convert their heating/electricity to solar options, and the massive credit you get to do it now, now may be a great time to convert your power consumption needs to solar whcih will make you eligible for huge tax credits and in the process of hiring someone to do it, you spur economic growth to those green companies who offer solar technology or other technologies for woodpellet generators, etc. So again, the problem is???? and very small businesses are exempt from cap-and-trade. so again, what’s the problem here? IF I’m a small business owner, i’m happy as my friends who have small businesses are. They certianly like that credit has opened up, that Obama has stopped the free fall and they like that growth is starting to happen again.

Huh, first thing first, he was mandated to stop the bleeding so today we would be in soup lines and our financial Infrastructures would not completely collaspe, he also needed and is making Financial reforms and changes so what happen before will not happen again, he also understands that healthcare is a monster and every year the cost of maintaining it is going through the roof, it has to be contained and cost effective, I could go on but you catch my drift? these changes have to be made inorder for proper growth to take place.

gman – The problem is that he can’t stop the bleeding. The BRIC nations and the UN have talked about a new reserve currency and when that happens we will no longer be able to export inflation. Prices will also accelerate on all sorts of things. But hey as long as China continues to buy treasuries, at least shrort-term ones, we can pretend that we are rich. As far as health care goes it is utterly pointless as long as people are eating gmo, rBGH laced, antibiotic pumped, pesticide-laden, maximally-processed, preservative tainted, artificially colored dead foods. Utterly pointless. Kind of like throwing good money after bad which is pretty much what we do nowadays.

Yes the mortgage-backed securities were traded in the private sector. —no, they were MADE in hte private sector. MADE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR!! Do you understand that??? Google Business Week Magazine, That conservative enough for ya?????? at least they are HONEST, unlike whatever you listen to! They were MADE in the private sector!!! All those no income verification, free money hoping for the loanas to fail, get the property back, resell it, and who cares property values always go up – that was ALL DONE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. Fannie and Freddie were NOT allowed to give loans to folks who didn’thave jobs, or good credit, etc. Fannie and Freddie requirements for loans were much much stricter than a private sector, you see, Fannie and Freddie had REGULATIONS but there were no laws for private mortage compaines on what they did, nor on their rating agencies, nor on the banks and financial institutions that bundled them up and resold on the markets as ‘securities’ to which banks bought as ‘collateral’ (as Fannie and Freddie did) on the loans they made.

justsayn – The FHA, Freddie and Fannie guaranteed all these loans so the risk was taken out of the equation. Government intervention failed miserably here. We need risk back into the mix so this doesn’t happen again. Lowering the interest rates below the rate of inflation also created the malinvestment.

Millions more people will vote GOP in 2010 —-LOL!!!! WHY would you ever trust the party that wants no regulations???? RIght now republicans are crying to cut spending..during a recession with 10% unemployment. Who else did this????? HERBERT HOOVER. ARe you aware you are the party of Hoover doing and asking for hte policies of Hoover that brought what could have been a recession and turned it into a DEEP DEPRESSION! The only folks who would EVER vote for such stupidity are the clueless and yo uare sure one them hook line and sinker but I really wouldn’t count on you having millions more american be a stupid as you. READ SOME HISTORY, heck, read some real news NOW. Your views are 100% wrong and no mystery, because look where your party brought us after being in office 8 years!!!! NO WAY this country wants republicans running it after what you’re crew have done and the imbecile politics you are advocating for now!

The markets will self-correct eventually—— LOL!!!! Oh sure, the banks will all fall and everything will be just fine! LOL!! How’s the confederate dollar worth today???? How about soviet union money? LOL! The tidal wave of our largest six banks failing would have swallowed up the entire US banking industry – no more banks. Our money would be WORTHLESS!!!! simple paper. It’s biggest worth would be to start a fire because we wouldn’t have any utilities.

gman – The problem is that he can’t stop the bleeding………I will admit this one thing I’m not very good at details like yourself and justsayn, but I can see the big picture, and I’m still saying, give our President his go at it and stop the premature judgement, I personally and truely you might be surprised at the results.

Forty-two states and the District of Columbia lost jobs last month, confirming that the nation’s labor market continues to deteriorate even as more “green shoots” are sighted in other areas of the economy.

When are we going to hold the corrupt federal reserve and their evil extentions of goldman sach ,morgan stanley,and Jp morgan who the true criminal culprits for this financial messs…America you really need to educate yourself about what type thuggery is going on in your corrupt country…..Its a shame that most of you are fast asleep while busy eating bigmac’ and double cheese burgers …

TruthSaves – You are exactly right. Things due not look good at all. This isn’t about democrats or republicans, it is about a thirty+ year asset bubble that is popping. The interesting thing is that the economies are decoupling. China is growing and the US is in massive contraction.

THE LAST WORD: B A N K S ARE NOT “FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.” THEY ARE NOT LEHMAN BROS., BEAR STEARNS AND THAT ILK…..YOU KNOW WHAT A BANK IS AND SUPPOSED TO BE….SO DO I……REGULATE BANKS AS BANKS…….REGULATE….AND POSSIBLY FOR THE FIRST TIME, “FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS” WHO WHEEL AND DEAL…AND USE BANKS AS A FRONT FOR THEIR “MAKE MONEY” SCHEMES. B A N K REGULATION IS FINE…INCLUDING THOSE STATES WHO GET INVOLVED IN THEIR OWN REGULATION B E F O R E THE FEDS DIRECTLY ARE INVOLVED IN A CHUNK OF CASES…………….AS FOR “FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS”…..REGULATE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE….AND FOR WHAT THE SEC WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED TO DO.

THE ECONOMY IS IN DIRE TROUBLE…—-all the leading indicators of the economy are saying it is starting a slow recovery. The most dangerous time has passed but the rate of growth out of this will be slow and may never bounce back to what it was, at least not for folks who do not have good educations. There are leading and lagging indicators in economic growth and the leading indicators are good. Unemployment is a lagging indicator and right now, unemployment is our biggest problem and the LAST thing you do when you have high unemployment is cut spending. Economic 101. You spend when you have high unemployment, when it goes down, when we start to have growth, that is when we need to start to cut the spending. You do NOT cut spending NOW!!! Not unless, of course, you’re Herbert Hoover. And we all know how that went, folks.

……REGULATE BANKS AS BANKS—-Banks buy securities and used those ‘securities’ as collateral in their debt to asset ratios. That’s why they fell. No regulations on what the ratio needed to be, on what the ‘collateral’ was, on how that collateral was rated, and by whom, and on how real of an ‘asset’ is it. That why the banks fell! As far as regulating the folks who bundled the ‘securities’, rated them, were transparent in what they contained…uhhhhhh, yeahhhhh, you need to regulate that too!!!

As a horrified nation watches this administration’s descent into Carterism, it is refreshing to review the assessment of that vile, segregationist cracker by the late Democratic Senator Eugene McCarthy:
“Mr. Carter,” he said, “quite simply abdicated the whole responsibility of the presidency while in office. He left the nation at the mercy of its enemies at home and abroad. He was the worst president we ever had.”

Buy a gun —that’s your solution? Get a gun? Gun gonna feed your family? No. I’ve gone back to school for a higher degree so I’ll have more skills and be more qualified for the higher paying jobs I see out there. I have a good job, but it’s common and I know what job I want and i’m working for it. I will be harder to replace, wihle other jobs are outsourced. YOu guy your gun, crawl into you hole, i’ll be making good money taking advantage of the new industries that spring up as we work toward getting off oil and into new technologies.

I beg to differ with all of you, the future looks quite bright, this economy will be intact long after you and I am gone, now that a democrate occupy the whitehouse all hell will break loose huh! I tell you what, in 2010 joblessness will drop down to 7% and will continue to decline into 2011, and I’ll bet the farm on it, contracting of our economy will reverse completely in 2011, now you mock my word on this, don’t forget me!

justsayn, you are doing the right thing, they will be kicking themselves in the butt later on because they didn’t follow suit.

justsayn, I’m telling you, you better stick to your path you are on the right track.

Stop this moronic dingbats type of talks and lets do something about this corrupt federal reserve by supporting Mr Ron paul and senator banning …Federal reserve is a government within the government you must dismantle it or there is no end to your suffering america …Believe it this canadian know more about your corrupt country then you airheads with daily idiotic mumboo jumboo schizophrenic talk on talk shows and news outlets and nothing is ever achieved….Awake up yankee doodlers your country has been taken over by these swindling,lying,cheating thugs for the past 70 or so years….

thanx gman, it’s alot of work but there’s no way I can see myself being anything but at an advantage from it.

by supporting Mr Ron paul —– The guy says he wants smaller government and then he’s anti choice. Yeah, let’s force young unmarried poor girls develope babies agians their will, wiht no health care, and force them to birth them (yeah, you htink hospitals have alot of unpaid bills now???LOL!) and sure, that will make this society so much better . No freakn way. Anyone who seriously wants to outlaw abortion is a crackpot. seriously. Talk about poverty spike, disease spike, crime spike, healthcare cost spike, etc. Be realistic in your politics.

A new government report concludes that taxpayers are unlikely ever to be repaid for much of the bailout money already given to General Motors, but 57% of Americans believe it’s likely the government will have to provide even more bailout funding to keep GM in business. That figure includes 23% who say an additional funding request is very likely.

Most Americans see no upside for their family in the health care reforms being considered in Washington and don’t believe President Obama when he says his plan won’t add “one dime” to the federal deficit. The majority of Americans believe they will have to make changes to their health care coverage if the president’s plan is passed. . . . More Americans would rather Congress do nothing than pass Obama’s plan: 46 percent to 37 percent of people polled say they prefer the current health care system to the one the president has proposed.

I have to give Obama credit. He’s staying as far away from the ‘race card’ as he can. Smart! He also says, “I think there are people that are ‘anti-government’, but he never says, “there are people who are anti-socialists’, or ‘anti-marxists’. Or comes right out and says, “There are people who don’t like my policies’. He’s one smooth cookie.

So, when Obama leads the “show and tell” segment of the G-20 meeting, when each country stands and explains what they have done to help quell the effects of a failed world economy, will China “show” all of the US IOU’s and then “tell” everyone there how great it is to own us now?

threeriverscrossing wrote: “Currently one third of the price tag (MSP) of USA made automobile goes to pay for employer health care cost and that was ten years ago.”
I agree with the point that America’s idiotic for-profit-insurance health care system is making our companies unable to compete in the world.
But estimates for the cost of health insurance vary from $1500 to $2200 per car – less than 10%.
Still that’s significant. Note that Japanese use private insurance that’s paid through employers just like in the USA. But there are NO for-profit insurance companies allowed because it would be absolutely ridiculous to put health care costs in the hands of a company that needs greater amounts of illness or greater prices to thrive. What nation could be stupid enough to do something like that?

The vaunted single-payer system in Britain prepares to announce the findings of it’s Death Panel:
“Mr Burnham said he planned to tell hospitals how much they would be paid for providing treatment over the next four years.
This unprecedented move comes after he said he would like to see an ‘overall spending settlement’ for the health service in the next few weeks, although this is the Chancellor’s responsibility.”

Things are better than they were. They will get better yet. Wild capitalism needs a strong policeman. That what we will have. We have to learn this same lesson about every third generation. Greedy folks just don’t believe it can happen again.

msgijoe – It has been corporatism not capitalism. Capitalism was not at fault.

“Things are better than they were.”
Sure, if you consider 9.7% unemployment an improvement over the 4.4% it was before Pelosi and Reid took over the congess, or the 7% it was when Obama took office.
And sure, if you like a deficit of over $1.5 Trillion.

“President Obama’s approval ratings remain in the mid-fifties despite the smear and fear campaign of the right wing extremists.”
Let’s ask the 26 million unemployed/underemployed Americans how much they care about Obama’s pumped-up approval ratings.

“I think the point msgijoe was making is that a lot of problems get caused by unchecked greedy capitalists.”
What about the greed of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT that’s put us and our children on the hook for TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in debt for bailouts and waste? Wake up, Obamabots. The bill is coming due and the wealthy won’t be paying it. YOU WILL. Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

Greed has no bounds, especially when it is condoned and assisted by the Republicans! Bush gave a wink & nod to the sub-prime mortgages and further deregulation of – everything! Who need regulations – and even laws! We definitely didn’t need the Constitution, that was determined early on. Having Bush & Cheney in charge was like having the CEO’s of the oil companies in running the government – hmm, actually I think they actually were……….

We have been listening to the Republican fulmination and haranguing ever since the Repubs took control of congress during the Clinton administration. This led to Carl Rove’s “Go negative, go early” fiasco. There is nothing constructive in the Republican lingo – and likely never will be. Underneath all this Republican Triple-A (Argumentative, Accusatory, Anti-American) flak is the most corrosive corruption in the history of this country. Yet the Repubs pretend that the resulting social and financial destruction that occurred under Bush & Cheney has nothing to do with them. The fact is that the Republicans are the cause of the problems that exist today. And yet, they continue to try and get in the way of fixing these problems. They have nothing to offer but hate and more problems. The corporate puppets and their puppet masters carry on with their disinformation and lies and slander. The Christian right is just as corrupt and incompetent as the GOP – corruption supports corruption.

“The fact is that the Republicans are the cause of the problems that exist today. And yet, they continue to try and get in the way of fixing these problems. They have nothing to offer but hate and more problems.”
Ah, the unspoken mantra of the left: Accuse your enemies of what you yourself do.
Hey genius, Democrats have SUPER-MAJORITIES in both chambers of Congress. Republicans don’t have the numbers to “get in the way”. Stop your whining.

Not seven months the stock market was crashing every day, banks were failing, GM and Chrysler were failing, we were truly in economic free fall. It all was coming down. Obama stopped that, absolutely. It was something bush could not do. BUsh was a deer in the headlights, Palin was shopping, dumb and deaf on the issue, talking about terrorists while the economic infrastructure was crumbling and McCain wanted to arrest the head of the SEC because he wasn’t aware that all of this was actualy not against hte law because of policies of no regulation that he championed. Priceless. Obama was the only one who kept his head, investigate into the details of what happened, and formed a plan to get banks back on their feet again – not just money pumped in, Bush did that with the first TARP which did nothing. obama came up with stress tests for the banks they had to agree to in order to get the money. Obama stopped the freefall and of what surely would have been a full flown DEpression had we had another republican in there. Hoover took a recession and turned it into a depression. Now republicans are calling for the same exact economic policy of Hoover – cut spending WITH 10% unemployment and a stalled economy…are you kidding me??????? LOL!!!! You guys want to use Hoover’s great strategy??!?!?!?! because it worked so well?!?!?!?!?! I dont know. Rush did call for the US to fail and here they are screaming for a policy to put us in a Depression. How can anyone trust republicans. They want to kill us, or at least, are too dumb to know they are crying for a policy that WILL kill us. No thanks. I feel safe with Obama in the head seat.

Consumer debt is now $14.5 trillion, or 34% greater than total consumer income each year. With the housing market crash, home equity fell from a high of $13 trillion in 2006 to just $8 trillion today. Consider where it would be without the massive government intervention and 80% ownership stake in US mortgages! Then consider that nearly 10% of all these government owned mortgages are in default, and 23% of the current FHA portfolio is already in default! In the last year 2.6 million Americans slipped from a tenuous position in the Middle Class into the ranks of the impoverished. Another million joined the ranks of those without health insurance–an astounding 46 million now. Another 1.3 million will lose unemployment benefits by year’s end. According to the Gallup daily tracking poll, job creation is down 35% over last year, so don’t expect a lot of new hiring. Teen unemployment is now 25.5%. A third of all workers under 35 are now living with their parents to make ends meet. USA Today reports that national bankruptcy filings are up 22% over 2008. More than 35 million Americans now rely on food stamps to feed themselves. Consequently consumer spending is now down a remarkable 33% over the previous year.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 31% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -9

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Sep 20, 2009 9:35:27 AM
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The more interesting thing is the trendlines via multiple polls and some of the analysis at pollster and/or Nate Silver’s blog. This weeks’s analysis by Charles Franklin is the more intriguing piece when it comes to polls for those who like to be current and knowledgeable, and aren’t just into horse race stuff when that type of thing is irrelevant to the moment. Regarding health care, Franklin writes:
“The details are slightly different. A bump here and a drop there, and the precise estimates of support and opposition differ by as much as 2 points up or down. But the big picture is that opposition ramped up significantly through June or July but has recently slowed or stopped. Support fell less precipitously but has been working back up for a month (despite or perhaps because of the circus coverage in August.) We could pick a chart to fight over the details, but we shouldn’t. It is the big picture of public opinion that is important here. Within a couple of points, opinion is evenly divided. The White House has gained a bit of momentum, but will be challenged to lower the opposition numbers, not just raise the support numbers.”
Also, if you average the polls and don’t just looks at Rasmussen and their poll of likely voters Obama’s approval rating remains above 52%. The horse race posts by Fascist remain irrelevant, and not particularly interesting.

“Hard-working people recognize greed when they see it because greed is not honorable–and saying so displays moral character.”
Were it not for self-interest and greed, you wouldn’t be typing your tripe on computers invented by the private sector running operating systems written by the private sector running Internet browsers written by the private sector.

I guess I am sort of greedy, but I will not acquire wealth in a dishonest or corrupt way. A little greed is actually what makes capitalism work. People want to make money, and in doing so, create jobs for others.

You really have to love the Left! They simplify everything so well! They blame everything on the Republicans, President Bush and Vice President Cheney. Yet they praise the Democrats, former President Clinton and former Vice President Gore for the wonderful 1990s. The fact that the Republicans held the majority in both houses of Congress for the last SIX YEARS of the Clinton Administration had no effect. Just like the fact that the Democrats having controlled both houses of Congress for the past two years had no effect on the economy! OH and like the Democratic controlled state legislatures had not effect on our economy!
Well, President Obama may have inherited a falling economy but things have only gotten worse since he took office. And IF his agenda–or more precisely, the agenda of the radical Left-wing of the Democratic controlled Congress–is fully implemented many of you will wake up one morning scratching your head and asking: “How did this happen?”
The government takeover of a good portion of the auto industry will have a huge impact on our economy. Nationalizing the financial industry will have a huge impact on our economy. Nationalizing the student loan program will have a huge impact on our economy. Implementing salary caps on the financial industry, is just a first step towards implementing salary caps elsewhere–and that will have a huge impact on our economy. Nationalizing our healthcare system will have a huge impact on our economy. Implementing Cap & Trade will have a huge impact on our economy. Individually the impact of each will be bad enough. IF THEY ALL come to fruition they will have a devastating effect on our economy–not to mention greatly limit our individual freedoms.
I know you will still try to blame the Republicans. But this time the Republicans don’t have the votes to block, much less pass, any legislation.
I pray that the middle class will wake up before it’s too late. Stop this government takeover by voting the incumbents out of office next year. But you don’t have to wait until next year. Tell your Representatives NOW that you will not vote for them next year unless they stop this government takeover now.

Huh – Just because a State allows birth control doesn’t mean you have to pay for it. Those are 2 different issues.
BTW – Ron Paul is Pro-life and doesn’t support abortions. He supports States’ rights, which is the way it is in our Constitution, and not Federal regulations/control on this issue.