Obama Ally: Joe Wilson Won Faceoff with President

“Undocumented workers” — you mean illegal immigrants? The former sounds like somebody is here legally but just forgot to do the paperwork. I’m not conservative — I don’t like the “pro-life” propaganda lingo either, but journalists shouldn’t take the bait, even if they agree with the cause.

I’d have to agree. Obama backed down yet again in his apparent never-ending desire to be liked by everyone, whether friend or foe, as long as they’re not a member of the liberal base of his own party.
I’ve pretty much given up on the democrats. They’ve pretty much proved the republican accusation of not being able to take a position and stick to it. Anyone know of a decent third party? I’m actively looking.

it isn’t about hate. it is about taking care of our own and “undocumented workers” are here illegally. when does our role as mother hen end?

I think that even his supporters are now seeing how truly weak this president is.Wilson may have been inappropriate,but his comment set off a scramble to ensure that illegals would not be covered; a scramble that would have been unnecessary had there not been truth in hs original statement.The real lesson here is that nobody remembers the speech itself- it is all Wilson,Wilson and Wilson in the media.I thought that Mr. Obama was a master communicator-how could he be upstaged by a nobody from So. Carolina?Despite massive majorities in both houses this administration’s accomplishments (except spending money) are mighty thin.It is government by Brownian motion-everybody is in charge because nobody is in charge at the top.

Inner city Blacks and others that suffer from competition from illegals would be better off if the illegals not only stay in the shadows but leave the country. There are nearly 15 million unemployed. We need less immigration and we do not need certainly do not need those whose very presence is criminal.

tylerkad asked: So this is the nonsense that is being generated. Why block illegals from buying health insurance?
Obviously you do not understand what the concept of “insurance pools” is all about. This is the equivalent of allowing a bank robber to redeposit the money they stole into their own bank account at the bank they robbed. Under no circumstances should a person who committed a crime be allowed to profit or gain from his or her crime. No “illegal” (your word) should be allowed to enter into my insurance pool and have me subsidize any aspect of their life. And the fact that courts have been idiotic enough to force me to subsidize their K-12 education or emergency room treatment does not dimiss the insanity of their ruling.

Obama is a lying? He has been lying throughtout his campaign about who is and what he is.

Illegals as every Informed American know, get Medical Care and the taxpayers are paying for it through Emergency Rooms visits….supported by the Law championed by
Reagan in the 1980′s, that NO Human-Being be denied “care” by the American Hospital system. OH WAIT….. Here’s the catch to that “half-arse, I did something for the American people” Law by Reagan is that the EMERGENCY ROOMS are only held to STABALIZE you, which means, I X-RAY AND wrap your BROKEN FOOT, GIVE YOU A TYLENOL-EXTRA STRENGTH, WRITE YOU A FOLLOW-UP/DISCHARGE PLAN THAT SAYS FOLLOW-UP WITH YOUR PRIVATE PHYSICIAN. WHAT PHYSICIAN! THIS IS WHY THEY WERE IN THE ER IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I think Obama should stick to what he had promised during his election campaign. I believe that now he is starting to see things are going different from what he planned. He should review his policies and keep it without playing two-face. You can’t please everyone Mr. President . Illegal immigrants in this country are undoubtedly is a part of the soceity, they are very hardworking, not-so-demanding and not-so-choosy in jobs. To wrap it up, stick to what you have promised America while you are begging them for their votes.

Why do we have illegal immigrants? Because we have American employers who want cheap labor for the most part. If you use the laws against the employers for hiring illegals and strongly fine them (jail them if need be), we would not be having this conversation. They are the lawless ones. American business hiring them is the real core issue. Stop treating Illegals as if they are inhuman and all thugs. Most are just looking to work hard to help their families back home. They are human beings and should not be treated like garbage. You invite them here for cheap labor and then you accost them and treat them shamefully. Christian nation – your actions prove otherwise.

I have to ask a question, with the LEGAL outsourcing of millions of jobs, why do we continue on our path of demonizing illegal aliens. We move our plants to mexico, china, india…
I would much rather see us stop that from happening and create jobs for all in our country and turn the illegals into tax payers and get our country back on the road to prosperity.
In the scheme of things, free trade agreements, tax incentives for outsourcing, and the lack of a managed tariff system is killing our economy, not illegal aliens
Now I am not a fan of illegals, but it seems to me we are keeping the focus here to keep people from discussing and addressing the real problems

First I feel that Congress needs to back off Pres.Obama, he’s only been in office since January, he came into a mess that he now has to “fix”! Health Care is a Major issue in this country! My husband was diagnosed with Crohn’s Disease in 05′, the battle for my husband to receive Medicaid benefits for his ostomy supplies and remicade infucsion’s was absurd. The battle continued from 07′to 09′. The paper trail, driving expenses was a waste. Having a lawyer review my husband’s medical documents, he met the criteria of S.C. “working Disabled” program, of course he got denied & we had to appeal several times. I contacted Joe Wilson’s office numerous times to help my husband receive “emergency supplies” for his illness, I HAD NO LUCK! Representative Bill Herbkersman was our only help. As being a legal student, and very familiar with Social Security Disability Laws and Medicaid Program’s, (due to my huusbands illness)the headache and emotional stress it put on my family was uncalled for. I’ve had to write several research paper’s, my favortie topic was “Universal Health”! Every Legal American SHOULD be entitled to Health Care, however; IT SHOULD NOT BE FREE!! I grew up in Low-SES family, my parent’s still to this day live off the “system”, the fight for my husbands benefit’s, was not fair or right! We Do NOT live off the system, however; my husband does receive S.C. W.D., due to his “autoimmune disease”. He is entitled to that. My opinion to “Universal Health” is; Every American is entitled to receive which ever health plan, HMO,PPO, or a government funded program. However; if that person/family can’t afford a HMO or PPO health insurance, they should have the right to a government program. This program SHOULD NOT BE FREE!! Medicaid needs to revise their program’s; go off family size, income criteria, and monthly deduction’s (childcare expense, utilities, the same process & deductions that DSS does for Food Stamps eligiblity, ect.), then do the evaluation on how much the family can pay monthly for their health services to the government. In Canada, a family of 4 pays $125. a month. I have a family of 4 and can pay $125. a month for health coverage, I CAN NOT pay over $500. for health insurance for my family, inaddition, my husband has a “pre-exisiting” condition, NO health insurance company will cover him. That’s sad when he is required to have a “theropy maintainence” drug every 6 weeks @ the cost of $18,000. (which is done by I.V. only) and monthly medical supplies that cost $345.55 a month. We as American’s need to stop wanting things in life for “FREE”! If American’s can’t afford “real insurance”, such as Blue Cross, we should be able to receive a gov. state program, but PAY for it monthly! Yes, the benefits our limited, however; it’s not for “free”, & it’s not taking away from those who are retired. Another issue, American’s need to get over the fact that we have an “Inter-Racial” President, we voted for the man, let him do his job! He is part “white”. America is about “black & white’s” in this country, Obama did not ask to have parents from differnt races, WILL WE EVER GET PASTED THAT?? This is our country, that includes the blacks & white’s, we are all entitled to vote! My grandfather came from Hungary, but I was born here in America so what does that make me??? That goes for the blacks, their grandparents/greatgrand may have came from Aferica, but those who were born here in the U.S. have ALL rights! This country needs to get back on track & stop dividing this country, we should all be treated equally! The illegal’s, that’s a different topic. As being a resident of S.C., I feel Joe Wilson should apologize to the House. He represents this state, I’m very ashamed of his action’s. The allegations of Joe Wilson being “prejudice”, the word is not used only for “race” it’s also used for “unfavorable idea, an opinion held in disregard of facts that contradict it; bias”, I most definitely feel Wilson is “prejudice” for the Health Care Bill. I feel he rather focus on the wealth than those who are “low class/middle class” that are in need of Health Care. Again, it should not be FREE, we should pay some monthly payments into the program.

Should he called Wilson out to a fight, stop the maddness……

Anything the President does someone is upset. Where are the articles from people who are satified with the President. Oh I forgot negative responds sell…………

Obama Ally: Joe Wilson Won Faceoff with President…….Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill. Please grow up……

I find a lot of the comments above to be extremely naive politically. People have said that the president is weak or that he is giving in to pressure and changing his policies. But the people who have said those things are thinking, like little children, that everything is simple and straight-forward. The fact is that many democrats in congress are “fakers” who have extremely conservative views, but who campaigned as democrats because it was trendy to do so during the last election. The point is that THERE IS NO WAY obama could pass this health care legislation AT ALL unless he compromises with many political points of view. He isn’t blocking immigrants because of Joe Wilson. He’s blocking them because many (conservo-)democrats will NOT vote for the bill otherwise.
All law-making is compromise. And Obama is proving to be an excellent president–just look at all the work he is doing for the country! It’s amazing. No president in history has worked harder or been more effective. Obama has accomplished more for the american people in the first 200 days of his presidency than the past 8 presidential terms combined.
Of course, not every action is 100% progressive or perfect. It is a political requirement to compromise with people who end up polluting the legislation, but that is the only way anything can be accomplished.

FOX news ACORN has you covered….LOL

Illegals don’t want to pay taxes, many don’t even have auto insurance even though all drivers are “required” so using common sense, why would anyone believe illegals would purchase health insurance when they can walk into any ER and get free treatment? free vs not free, it’s a no brainer. If illegals wanted to be responsible members of society they would be LEGAL and pay taxes for all these programs like the rest of us do.

Phoenix Lady: That’s too bad, Mexico is their domain and they should stay there. Us citizens don’t invade Mexico so why shouldn’t we deny them anything for sneaking illegally here. We should only take care of our citizens.

Illegal immigration is becoming an industry and a crime syndicate into itself with the smuggling that goes on and the more it becomes profitable for the smugglers the harder it will be to eradicate. The US should really start coming down on the employers who hire them and start coming up with a cohesive plan to allow them to enter to work legally. It would be to our benefit to have them on record somehow so we know who is coming in, where they are and where they entered. For our safety and for their safety we should change our immigration and border security policies. There has to be some logical middle ground to this problem.

MNresidents says **Obviously you do not understand what the concept of “insurance pools” is all about. This is the equivalent of allowing a bank robber to redeposit the money they stole into their own bank account at the bank they robbed*** It’s obviously you that doesn’t understand the “pool” it is NOTHING like a bank robber robbing banks JEZZZZZZZZZZ. Don’t you get it you are already helping them by subsidizing their ER visits? Let them in the pool so they are sharing the cost. Of course you think its better for you to pay/us it LOL. Most Illegals are young healthy adults that need very little Health care. they would be a welcome members by any insurance company for that reason alone and would add millions to the “Pool” that we all use.

What is it about “illegal” do they not understand? People that sneak across our borders have NO rights. Of the millions of ILLEGALS who have health insurance here, how many of them are on medicaid????

Jorge…as a fellow T4exan….you have got to be kidding! If they wanted to be “responsible”, they wouldn’t be here illegally, collecting food stamps, housing subsidies, etc. They have NO rights except to board the bus back to where they came from. I welcome immigration, as long as it is done legally. Most fellow hispanics feel the same way.

You come to my front door and knock, I’ll greet you and invite you in….you sneak into my home by the back window, you’ll be met by force. Same principal….send em’ all packing and let them come across legally.

I like what you said PhoenixLady! If there here, there not going back. The Mexican (legal) employees that work for my company are afraid to go home just to visit. The drug cartel violence in that country is horrible. They police are crooked as a dogs hind leg and the last time one of our guys went home he was pulled over by the police and they took all his cash and then let them go. This has has happened to them twice. They felt lucky for their life. If they are here to stay, we need to make them go thru the legal process, pay their dues, learn ENGLISH and pay taxes. After that there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to buy insurance. I don’t agree that they should be able to buy insurance if they are illegal though. I think they would be more egar to become legal if they could get health care. Most of them want to become legal! The main problem is the companies that are allowing them to work here illegally, and ICE needs to step up on these companies and start fineing them like the law says!

I agree that President Obama should have called Wilson out to fight. Not only would it have stopped the madness, but it would have shown character. That in turn would have push the health care bill a little bit further in the right direction. I think the President is doing good, but could use a little more focus.

President Obama is doing a great job. He is working on the tough issues no one had the courage to deal with in the past, except Pres. Clinton. He inherited a massive debt. He is not even a year into his Presidency. Give him a break.

OK,….here is a suggestion–ALLOW immigrants coverage, document where they are from and then BILL THEIR HOME COUNTRY—subract it from whatever subsidy our govt/country already gives them–subtract the care of THEIR citizens that way, those in need of medical care GET medical care and it is then paid for–THAT COULD WORK BEST FOR ALL CONCERNED !!!

Wilson did win in the sense that the only thing people now remember about the speech is ‘You Lie’. Not great PR for the President and now his ‘allies’ keep shouting racism when what they really need to do is prove the policy should be passed on merit. Name calling just says weakness.

I support the President. I don’t support the losers who take every opportunity to try and put Obama in a bad light. They are only showing their ignorace. The last President couldn’t find his *** with both hands and the folks who voted for him are just looking for a way to get out of the hole they dug for themselves. Crow for all of them…

Openly advocating Federal benefits for illegal immigrants is political suicide. Obama knows this. Poll after poll shows that American’s are angry about the uncontrolled nature of illegal immigration and they blame the Federal government. And making Joe into a story right now is a big, big mistake.
Pelosi should have taken her cue from the President and let it die. But now Jimmy Carter has joined Dowd in throwing the race card on the table. The timing could not have been worse for Democrats. The Joe story and Acorn have virtually sucked the air out of the room and the poll numbers for Obama are falling yet again.
One has to wonder whether liberals have lost their minds? Why don’t they just charter buses and start shipping the independents over to the RNC?

The President is not being a bigot. This is not a racial issue. This is a legal issue. The illegals need to become legal or go back to their countries. Why come to the Unite States from any country and not become legal. I am in the medical field and I am tired of the uninsured illegals getting free care when I pay through the nose for my children to get care. This is not racial this ignorance and arrogance on the parts of the illegals and the government.

Now, I’ am going to say this as clear as I can. Obama, did not tell, or order any changes to the Bill, he did not lie, he did tell the truth.
Now the Bill can be changed and if it’s changed, it will be done by Senators, or Representatives, not Obama.
Last, yes Obama can ask for changes, but he has not and not ask for that change, why would he if it correct as he said and it was correct what he said.
So, Mr. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., get a grip and your issue is with your fellow Representatives, stop making up crap.

I’d hardly say he said ‘Joe Wilson won’.
What a ridiculous headline.

WOW! Is this a misleading headline.

This is a no win situation so might as well be strong and go forward: If you allow illegals to buy insurance you are also admitting it is OK for them to be here undocumented and therefore you are “weak” on them to the right. If you deny them buying insurance you force them into the emergency rooms and/or they suffer with no care and you are “heartless” to the left. Where does the President have to come down here? I say support those who brought you and let them buy insurance if they can pay for it. After all, they do pay taxes and if they have a job they probably have a ssn even if it is not theirs so they are putting tax money back into the system. BE STRONG! Fight for a public option because we could and are doing worst without socialized medicine.

What are they out of their minds. I doubt very much if the Obama administration plan to include illegal aliens in the health plan. Without a social security card they can’t even get medicare or medicaid. So how in the world would anyone in their wildest dreams imagine aliens will get covered if they can’t even produce a social security card nor driver’s license. What baloney!

If for one second we are capable of thinking logically about this and not caving to emotion and xenophobia then it is clearly a good idea for undocumnted workers to be able to buy insurance.
These people are here, no two ways about it, and we as a nation will NOT be able to ebb the flow of workers, nor will we deport 12 million people, breaking up millions of families with ligit citizen children in the process.
If undocumented workers are not insured they will continue using the emergency room for primary-care. This is how a $100 broken finger turns into $100,000 life-or-death ER operation. The ER is bound by law to attend to life-threatening conditions and the taxpayer will cover the bill one way or the other.
P.S. The minimum wage in the US is about 15 times that of Mexico (which is itself far higher then anywhere else in Latin America). What if I told you that right now, today, you could make $100 dollars an hour flipping burgers or picking blueberries in Canada, would you go? Would you care that it was illegal, if your family didn’t have food and your house was being forclosed?

My son is self employed, has way too much responibilies. Unable to pay taxes..but he was born here! Our families go way back in history..and built this country. Fathers and Grandfathers have gone to war for this country…..
MY son was turned away from social services because he was unable to prove an income. and yet he had his birth certificate..
How come he does not get the same privilages as an illegal person.

I don’t hear anyone (republican or democrat)saying we won’t take any of the illegal immigrants MONEY.

Unless you are a private hospital or a doctor’s office that does not take government money(medicare & medicaid) you are required to take anyone that comes in that emergency room door. So I don’t know what all the fuss is about. Hospitals could not make it without government money and as long as the government gives money to these hospitals they will have to take illegals. A Doctor takes an oath when they become doctors to treat EVERYONE. So until these hospitals or Doctors offices refuse the government money there will always be a place for illegals to go. I use to be employed at a private hospital in the emergency room and people were denied care because they had no insurance. They were sent to the hospital 3 miles away that was a teaching hospital and treated. I don’t know if there are any private hospitals anymore, they can’t afford to be private.

“Undocumented”, “illegal”, who cares!? They are NOT US Citizens! UNTIL they become a citizen of these united states of america, they should not have ANY rights or priveleges! period! they come over here for poverty wages because of some sorry a** employer to take back to whatever country they came from because even at those wage levels it is better than the sorrier place they are from! They then want to milk us for rights and priveleges WE as AMERICANS have because we ARE americans! make them legal, make them pay taxes on the labor they provide or send them back home empty handed! how many of the “millions” of uninsured are being counted from these numbers!? Democrats specifically and the average american in general are so ignorant of the liberal agenda being shoved down their throats! It is almost humoristic to see these clowns go down in “flames” because of their ignorance! LMAO!

Alyse: I have nothing against illegal immigrants. If fact, I don’t blame them one bit for trying to better their families by coming here. However, I take exception to your statement that they do jobs that no one here wants to do. That is false. They may be filling some jobs that Americans don’t want to do in some pockets of the country, but they are also taking many other jobs that many Americans would take. Go into almost any restaurant kitchen in America and you will find them doing the jobs of busboys, dishwashers, and cooks. Jobs that many American teenagers used to fill and are no longer given the chance because they can pay these people below minimum in cash, make them work as many hours as they want without overtime pay and the owners don’t have to bother paying FICA, SUTA, and FUTA. (Although, some have been know to take it out of their pay and not actually forward to the government.) It’s fine by me if they want to buy insurance, but it shouldn’t be with a government subsidy of any kind.

Thank you
Mr Wilson

Illegal aliens have the “Right” to leave. If they do not exercise that right, they and their anchor babies should be deported to a country that already speaks their language, Mexico!
I say Press “1″ to deport or “2″ to incarcerate; same goes for Palestinians, Poles, Chinese or whatever other SARS, H1-N1, terrorists or AIDS infected future Democratic Party voters our elected morons allow into this country through liberalism and lax borders.

Many are saying that denying illegal immigrants the opportunity to buy into a government run healthcare program denies them the ability to act responsibly.
Give it a rest already. They are in this country illegally. Their opportunity to act responsibly has come and gone.

People forget that at one time in the past their parents, grandparents, great grandparents and so on, were immigrants. They were given a fair chance at improving their lives, and at the same time contributing to what is now the greatest nation on earth. So why not give today’s immigrants a fair chance? I recall that the true Americans are our Native American brothers and sisters, whose lands and dignity were taken away by the very immigrants at the time. Now their descendants today are upset at human beings who are trying to improve their quality of life as did their families of past generations. Now I ask. Is this another WHITE/RACIST objective? I don’t see anyone else pushing it.

I say illegal immigrants go home!

Gutierrez is a traitor to the nations laws. He is supposedly a “lawmaker”. Folks, it is time to wake up to the fact that we have fifth columnists in the administration, who every single day work against the best interests of the American citizenry, and for foreign interests. That is what illegal aliens are afterall, foreign nationals, in the United States without premission, illegally in other words. La Raza, Gutierrez, Lulac, or any other group resisting Americans when it comes to their laws, are fifth colunmnist traitors. Their undermining the country. PERIOD!!

i wish that the hatian people were treated as well as other people that enter this country illegally if you are any other race other than black you are welcome in america hatian people are the same as everyone else in this world they just want a better life for themselves as well as their children the hate in this world seems to be winning how sad everyone deserves a goog life the only difference between people is the shade of their skin in acts 17:26 we are all the same in the same of God.

This is just so messed up. Because Obama is making sure illegals do not benefit from health care reform, Joe Wilson wins??? What kind of twisted logic does it take to arrive at that conclusion??? Obama said that contrary to claims illegals would not benefit. Now he’s making double sure of it & some how the guy who called him a “liar” wins??? WOW!!!

Once again the media gloms onto the silly and the irrelevant so they don’t have to do the hard work of decerning what is true and important.

ANYONE in this country who is ILLEGAL should not be allowed to stay. Go through the correct procedures and process to obtain you right to be an American. No they should not be allowed to buy in, it will make their ILLEGAL stay easier. Make them work for what they have as WE do

To Jorge Lopez,
It may be true that some pay taxes, but in the construction industry they are paid under the table. They prefer $$$$ and the less spent on taxes, and other benefits, the better.

Where the hell are 12 MILLION illegal immegrants hiding so well that they can’t be deported? That’s what I’d like to know!

Enough is Enough we can not be responsible for other countries residents. We should take care of our own so Obama has this public option right

MNResident, insanity would be letting them die. That would be criminal and it would be on your head.

I’m OK with allowing illegals to purchase health insurance, as long as the I.N.S.is committed to doing there job and using that information to locate and deport those same illeagals.

Wait a minute, I thought Obama said he wasn’t lying and Wilson was. If so, then whey are they adding this?
It couldn’t be that Obama was lying all along, could it?

oh according to WHO that he won?!
Not according to polls.. the majority of Americans think it was wrong wrong wrong.

I read recently that Mexico is going to have Universal Healthcare or has it already in the works…why don’t they just go home (mexico)and live the life they want to there? better deal than running to the emergency room!

To Jorge… Illegals do NOT pay higher taxes. They come in with a fake (or stolen) social security number, fill out their tax forms, and claim 15 dependents. Any tax they pay is minimal, at best. Many, many more work for cash only, so pay no taxes at all. I live in Texas, and I’ve worked in payroll, so I know.
To Alyse… The claim that illegals only take the jobs American’s won’t do is a lie. They have driven down wages to the point that Americans can’t afford to take those jobs! After all, my kids don’t get a free education, free meals, free bus transportation, or free medical care. I have to pay enough taxes to cover both my kids’ expenses AND those of the illegals. So I can’t AFFORD to take a minimum wage job and still keep a roof over our heads.

Illegal immigration is merely a wedge issue. It merely serves the illusions of people’s misplaced sense of patriotism, and their mispplaced understanding of geopolitical economics. Like all demarcations within the culture of Man, borders are arbitrary, drawn by bloody ambition. So while we embody and personify our prejudices on poor people determined to survive, the powerful entities that truly deserve our scrutiny go unnoticed. Indeed, in America, ignorance, and all of its children-prejudice, hatred, fear, and narcissism, is the lash of our task masters!

I don’t understand the protection of the illegal immigrants. If they want to have health care, if they want to have health ins they should become legal. Yes, not having health ins and living off from the gov’t or the private sector who has to consume the costs of them going to the emergency room doesn’t help. What will help is ‘become legal’. Then they can have all the benefits of citizens and those who are here legally.
I know of a company that was raided for hiring many illegal immigrants. All the news could speak of was ‘the poor families of those immigrants.’ and all the fund raising for those families of illegal immigrants. Well, they got a social security number from somewhere! What about the nightmare of the person who actually OWNS that social security number?! Think of the tax implications for them. The mess they have to sort out. Let’s look a little more toward compassion for those who are deserving of it, those who are citizens and those who have ‘paid their dues’ and come here legally. What is the benefit to becoming legal if all that is offered to the legal immigrants and citizens is also offered up to the illegal immigrants. My husband is a LEGAL immigrant. We stood at the INS office and heard an officer ask a girl, ‘Are you here illegally?” To which she said, “yes”. He responded asking, “Do you have the $500?” She said, “Yes” at which time the officer turned to the newer officer and said, “Start the paperwork.” So it is not that difficult to become legal. Why should the rest of us suffer and pay more out of our checks for those who are 1) here illegally; 2) working for cash and not paying in for the benefits they seem to feel they should be receiving; 3) public assistance they are getting with no questions asked of being legal or illegally here. Let’s look at the fact that until they CHOOSE to do the legal thing, they are basically criminals. They cannot be rewarded with the same benefits we have. The push should be on legalizing them, not rewarding them for being illegal. Let’s look at this in the proper perspective.

The only thing Joe Wilson won was the admiration and loyalty of the type of vermin that poisons the well of America. Their bravado support both in money and example is not only predictable but also insignificant and easily dismissed by a majority of decent Americans. That President Carter touched a nerve for his brave statesmanship only serves to mildly nudge the conclusion obvious to the discerning American. If Mr. Wilson and his ilk believe that their indiscretions are supported or judged successful by their barometer; then so be it. It is better to have an ignorant opponent than one with actual substance. Many of us predict; Mr. Wilson will not win his next election, no matter how much racist money is thrown at him. His true colors and digusting pandering have painted a picture of him as the loser he will soon be.

Close your eyes. Imagine living in country where the currency is worth next to almost nothing. A country where Drug Lords kill and kidnap at will. A country where you can’t even call the cops, because more than likely, they work for the Drug Lords. A country where you are surrounded by poverty. A country where, if you have a low paying job, you’re very lucky.
But within sight is a country that is known as the land of opportunity. In this country, you can start with nothing and still make your dreams come true. It happens all the time. Around the world that’s what this country is known for.
Open your eyes. Now, tell me.
What would you do?
What would anyone do?

I just don’t get it. It seems that most of the people posting understand the damage people like Gutierrez do to this country and its people, yet we seem to get nowhere with these politicians, whether they are Democrats or Republicans. Americans are not being listened to and we aren’t being represented in the slightest.

I will support for President any candidates who will promise to remove all of these illegal aliens pronto. They do not belong here. They are all criminals just by being here.

The solution is to remove the illegal aliens now. Many Republicans are for the illegals being here because it is cheap labor for quick profits. Many Democrats see the illegals as future votes. The people of the USA are the victims of the illegals. Wages are depressed because of the illegals. California in the 1960s had the best school system in the USA. Now with it taking care of millions of illegals it has one of the worst school systems in the USA.

Why is it every time someone doesn’t agree
with the democrates is it bigotry or hatred?? Perhaps we just don’t agree with the policy!!!

halfmn- MAYBE!!! (and this is just a wild guess) It is do to the fact that their home countries are corrupt and if anything treat them worse than America would ever. In many countries people have no say in government unless you have the money to speak, if you know what I mean. So before you comment about how they should go back and fix their own country learn how their own country is and think about whether you would ever go back to a country that thinks you are pretty much worth nothing and in fact actually controls you as a person. You take a minute to think that though and then get back at me!
With that understand that I am not saying that immigrants don’t have advantages here in America because they do but just because they are illegals does not mean that they can be treated like trash.

The business owners, many of them who are white, are the ones that are employing people who are here illegally and perpetuating the problem. Why can’t people see this. Once again, instead of dealing with the root cause of the problem, people want to point fingers at the President. He wouldn’t have to deal with this healthcare debate about people here illegally, if business owners didn’t employ them.

Joe Wilson won because the President refused to waste time arguing with this guy? Joe Wilson won because the President keep his composure and appeared to be mature and undaunted? Joe Wilson acted like a bratty child. What a disgrace. On top of that, didn’t Joe Wilson fight to keep the confederate flag flying in SC? Yeah, Old Joe — the loser!!!!

This guy just wants his cousins who are here illegally to be insured… Sorry dude, I don’t think so…

So if they are able to pass this crap (which I don’t think they will, but if they do) here is what all of the TAX PAYING Americans should do.
#1 as we all know they cannot constitutionally FORCE us to buy their stupid insurance. But we all know that as soon as something cheaper is out there our employers will drop what we have, and give us that crap.
#2 when we do not buy their insurance they will try to fine us somehow through the IRS so
#3 we do NOT buy their insurance, and we STOP filing tax returns and we put millions and millions in the ER just like the illegals will STILL BE ON OUR DIME to get their care.
Then #4 they will stop all of this stupid stuff and repeal it.

After illegals are treated in ERs they
should be deported. Of course this won’t happen because our government lets the rich who benefit from cheap labor ignore enforcing the laws by making large campaign contributions.

One other thought…where does it say “I’m entitled to everything I want because it’s my right” ? When was the thought I’m RESPONSIBLE for myself eliminated from society? Did it come with the government stepping in and teaching several generations to hold their hand out and wait for a socialistic government to ‘take care’ of them? This is Obama Law.

Latino politicians who favor illegals
demand that the law be followed when its
convenient…but not when it applies to
immigration. Do they not see the hypocrisy?
With no verification, how does Obama
expect illegals to be kept out of taxpayer subsidized health care? Does he
think we can’t see his real motive?

It’s finally come to light that the entire reason Obama wants to fix healthcare is to add another 12 to 15 million voters to the democratic party and guarantee another landslide victory in 2012. Create another crisis that can only be fixed by drastic means. A magician’s trick is misdirection. Keep everyone focused on healthcare and ignore the fact that he really wants to instantly legalize anyone who crosses the border. You know these nice innocent hard working folks won’t register Republican or Independent. No they will be so greatful to Obama and the Democrats for letting them in, giving them cheap loans, setting them up in houses and giving them free or nearly free healthcare they will be more than willing to vote them back into power. In the meantime what are we going to do with all the other unemployed Americans that have been here struggling throughout this administration. Do we protest on the streets of Washington? Do we dare without being called racists, Nazi’s and far right idiots? It amazes me what a short attention span the average Obama idolizer actually has.

“it was a wise political – if not policy – decision to take even the fabricated argument of free health care for illegal immigrants away from the fringe right.”
Take the issue away by giving the right what they want? What about Obama’s support on the left — or do they suffer from low self-esteem?
If ‘surrender and claim victory’ works politically, it’s only because the left are such suckers for the race card. That may be why Clyburn, Hank Johnson, Modobot and Jimmy Carter played the ‘straight flush’ — to bamboozle the left into lying down for this anti-abortion anti-immigrant ‘reform bill.’

Oh by the way Pheonix Lady. That is a good reason to buy health insurance prior to getting sick not after.
The values a family are taught are how important insurance is and as fundatmentally important as groceries.