Obama Speech No Game-Changer

The only thing that Obama’s healthcare plan will help is insurance companies profits. 40 million people will be required to buy insurance. No wonder this companies are spending millions on TV commercials supporting Obama’s plan.

Speaking of scaring people, a new tape has been released of more ACORN corruption. This time in New York.
ACORN is the beneficiary of some of our tax dollars via Obama’s stimulus.
Perhaps Obama will care to address that.

A solution to this would be for the Democrats to pass it. If they have the votes and stones to do it, then do it.
From what I have heard nothing changes until 2013. Todays society can’t remember anything past the last election so maybe some of those who vote for the bill will be safe in their reelection bids.
However, when LBJ ushered in medicare the estimated cost was to be at 9 or 10 billion in 1970 but by 1970 the cost had risen to 10 times that amount. When people find themselves working until November to pay the taxes on all these programs that are already poorly ran and managed such as social security and medicare then perhaps things will change…or maybe they won’t.

ACORN was slated to receive $8.5 Billion for running the US Census. The US Census has “Cut” ties with them as of 9/10 (Win one for the Gipper)!

It’s over, as far as a public option goes. I am not sure he can get anything now, Americans just aint buying what the libs are selling.

President of the US Obama (D)
Congress. Speaker Pelosi(D) Majority
Senate. Senator Reid.(D)Super Majority
Who gets blamed when something fails to get passed? Republicans…. Priceless..

If the GOP is the party of “NO,” then the Democrats are the party of “WHINE.”
ind of reminds me of my household a few years back, when my son would beg my wife and I to buy him something. He didn’t need it, and he didn’t REALLY want, and it wasn’t in the budget. But that didn’t deter him from throwing a temper tantrum at Toys ‘R Us. My wife and I said “NO” as my son continued to whine.
In this case, Obama and his puppetmaster, Pelosi, are the ones whining, and it appears the GOP is trying to enforce some fiscal restraint on these spenders.
I’m not a Republican, but I support their efforts in this matter!!! Representative Wilson (R, SC) should now be easily RE-ELECTED in his state, as he’s the ONLY representative I’ve seen in Washington lately willing to speak his mind, and to LOOUDLY speak the TRUTH!!!
OBAMA LIES!!!

His speech was too little too late. He let the Republicans take control of the issue through out August and now he’s trying to play catchup. He’s shown poor leadership all along and the public is STILL confused about his position even after his speech.

“Deficit: 65% think health care reform will make it worse
Medicare: 56% of seniors think it will weaken Medicare”
These are good numbers for Obama. When health care passes and it does NOT weaken Medicare, and does NOT have a big deficit hit, Democrats will reap the benefits in 2012.

Camile Garrett – How ’bout MORON? That fits him like a glove too! ;)

Maybe Obama should stop being disrespectful to the American people.
It works both ways.

If there is no health care reform because of GOP’s lies about death panels and the end of us all garbage. WEll, GAME ON. You think we were hostile to the Bush gang, People like Jim Demitt and the rest of the bought and paid for by big business lobbiest repulbicans get ready to reap what you are a sewing.

Told you George.

I think there is a good chance Health Care Reform can come into being. I just don’t think Obama’s ‘people’ are doing it right. Maybe big biz has paid them to make it so ridiculous that it will never pass. If the President forced a logical approach to reforming health care, there would probably not be a problem. Someone sure doesn’t want it to pass, and haven’t for the last 50 years. I’ll tell you, it is not the people……

It made me more against the public option than before. the WSJ ran an editorial about the AL BSBC. They have a 0.6% profit, pay out over 92% of premiums as claims and have the lowest SG&A costs (7%) of all the BCBS groups. This does not sound like highway robbery. I thank Robert Gibbs for constantly bringing thsi example out. So those in AL will PAY MORE for their health care under this option.
Secondly, the democratic house leadership harping on Joe Wilson( i do not agree wiht him on abortion, family values, etc. he is an easy target not to like). however, their insistence on an apology on the house floor and keeping it in the media has illustrated core issues in the house bills opposite of what the President told us in his address. Someone is not on the same song sheet in their party.
I am for health care reformm, but done the right way. The bills outlined by the democrats are going to break us.

It is no longer sufficient to object or complain to anyone’s solution to the problem. If you don’t like the proposed plan then propose an alternative. Sitting back and throwing stones is easy but doesn’t solve anything. Think your insurance is good now? Just wait, your rates are going to go up and cover less. There is no more time to keep our heads in the sand. I’m not for everything the President is advocating, but I think some compromises are going to be necessary to get something passed.

I agree, JB Sullivan. Neither the Republican nor the Democrat parties are good fits for true born-again Christians. I’ve recently discovered that true Christians (this includes myself) probably fit best into what is called “Christian Socialism”. From what I’ve read, Christian Socialism is fairly popular in Europe, though it has virtually no foothold here in the U.S. There is a Christian Socialist party here, though it’s not one of the major third parties. I’m still learning more about it.

If there is no health care reform because of GOP’s lies about death panels and the end of us all garbage. WEll, GAME ON. You think we were hostile to the Bush gang, People like Jim Demitt and the rest of the bought and paid for by big business lobbiest repulbicans get ready to reap what you are a sewing.
Posted by: Macrose | Sep 14, 2009 9:53:01 AM
Were scaaaared. By the way it is your party that is defeating itself. Now are you saying your party is not smart enough to figure out what is true and what is not????

Either way, we need a strong third party that will represent the middle ground better than either the Democrats or the Republicans. I’ve heard that both parties have worked together to make this near impossible however.

It’s easy for Obama to say, “I’m not going to sign anything that includes this, I’m not going to sign anything that includes that….”. Dems could add things later with amendments. With the issue of Illegals getting insurance, when Obama takes on the immigration issue, and we know he is in favor of amnesty, it may be a mute point since once that happens, they will no longer be illegal, hence eligible for health care. Since most of them are working under the table, they’ll get theirs for free!

In order for Obama to turn the healthcare debate around, he needs to DROP the public option. We are in an era where the people of this country are fully aware of govts. failings from Soc. Security, medicare, Vet. affairs etc. All of these big govt programs are broken and do not serve the public well. So, if this is the case, WHY would the public embrace a govt run public option?!? Govt is in a quandry these days because it’s citizenry is paying attention to what they do with our tax dollars with pristine awareness!

Camile Garrett, yes it is disrespectful to call to call
Obama by his last name without the title.
But respect has to be earned, and so far he has not.
He wants to be everyone’s friend and neighbor, the
news stations might as well call him Barry.

Another day and another ACORN scandal, and another day of major news outlets not covering it.
As for the liberal dreamers on here – check the real polls. You’re wrong Sir.

Why does every time someone oppose social programs does the assertion that conservatives are being selfish? I want health care for everyone, I am just asking how do we pay for it? If we can show how we are going to pay for it, and how we are not going to spend more than we budget, I am all for it. Do not say that I am not compassionate or sympathetic! I am just holding my government responsible.

The best thing about the speech (I didn’t watch) is that we went from 47 million uninsured to 30 million (the illegal alien factor!). Perhaps if he gives another speech in a month (or so) we’ll be down to only 15 million uninsured. Then, the states can handle the issue, not the well-oiled efficient machine that is our U.S. Government!

I believe the Dems will say that those ACORN tapes were made by Republicans. Wait, no. The corruption we’re seeing within the ACORN organization is Bush’s fault.

Actually, I am “sewing” a new set of drapes. I don’t know how I am going to “reap” that.

Obama will be worse than Carter.
If you want to know about the man, look at his friends.
Please spare me your Bush comparisons.
We are talking about Obama.
His friends are not the kind of people I’d want to associate with.
His pimp protecting ACORN buddies and his American hating Chicago leftist are a disgrace.

I say back off for a year and let the government prove it can eliminate “waste, fraud and abuse” without rationing.
The government doesn’t need “crisis legislation” to clean up its own mess!
Posted by: Ed Taylor………
I don’t think anybody can rationaly argue with that Ed.
Your idea makes sense.

Why don’t we let our legislative leaders do their jobs? Without governance, you have anarchy and chaos.
Posted by: John J. Corbin
Try asking yourself the EXACT same question on subject of TAXES when the man incharge of the tax code is Charlie Rangel.
Maybe then you can begin to understand WHY we do NOT trust these people to just do what is right!

louis4lous – Where do you get your numbers from? And where does the figures above contradict 60% (which to me in my conversations with others seems quite high)? None of the figures above directly ask whether the public wants a public option.
Poll numbers are so easy to be manipulated (by the way questions are asked, who is asked, how big of a sample, which statistics are reported, who asked the questions, etc.) and because of that I really have a hard time putting too much faith into them.
As for the health care debate, I really wish both sides would stop making such extreme not quite true statements and focus on the real issues.
Questions I still have that have yet to be answered:
How will it be paid for? According to Obama there is enough waste and fraud currently to absorb the costs yet if this is true why hasn’t this waste and fraud been eliminated yet? And what is this specific fraud and waste?
How will it affect private health insurance companies which people are currently happy with? You add a public option that is significantly cheaper and backed with funding from the government and you set up an option that is pretty hard for existing companies to compete against and still stay afloat?
How will there be more options for the average American, if large employers (who are paying a significant percentage of the insurance currently for many) aren’t required to give these options to their employees? Currently, your employer dictates your insurance options (unless you work for a company that does not offer insurance). The current plan does nothing to regulate what employers are required to offer and pay for. Think of how easy and how much more cost effective it would be for employers to drop their current coverage and switch everyone to the public option. How does that offer choices?
How will we address all the issues that are prevalent in any country that now has government run health care? Problems like extensive waiting lists because of the increased demand for health care will become a true problem. What will be done to ensure that we can still get timely care?
And how many who are uninsured are uninsured because they can’t truly afford it compared to those who would just prefer to spend their money on alcohol, a new car, a family vacation, a house more extravagant and expensive than necessary or other luxuries? What is the true number of those who are uninsured because they truly can’t afford it? I’m all about helping my neighbor if my neighbor truly needs help but not if my neighbor just chose to make poor choices.
These are just some of the important questions that need to be answered before we jump head first into health care reform. Reform just for the sake of reform or reform pushed through without the appropriate background information is a waste of tax payers money and will be a failure in the end and VERY costly to taxpayers. If reform is as necessary as some of you say it is, than let us take the time to do it right and focus on HONEST discussion instead of just continuing lies. And let’s not depend on statistics without a complete understanding of their shortfalls and the circumstances they were gathered in.

republicangirl…we are marching because the dems misread their victory in novemeber. the country wanted a change from bush period. the polls are bearing out that they did not want a fundemental change to bigger govt. when you speak of what to teach your kids. respect is a good quality to teach but so is challenging authority, especially when that authority is not espousing the complete truth.

When will you, George and the other commentators address the nagativity of the talk show hosts who have poisened the minds of the public with mis-information and lies. What other president was called a communist with no commentators standing up for him? What is wrong with all of you? Are you all afraid of Rush…he and Hannity for three hours daily fill the public with such trash and with no one to rebut anything they are saying. Beck is the worst calling our president a racist and saying children should not listen to his speech. How come none of you stood up and said “are you crazy?” No other president had to endure this crazyiness. When are you going to stand up for him? If signs with him with a noose around his neck and other racist inuendoes don’t change your mind…what will? Are you going to wait for someone to injure or kill him before you address the radical treatment of our president. It is not about his policies…it is about his color. Face it. When is someone going to say “hey guys..he is not a communist?”

This article show that George doesn’t understand anything.
We know what you stand for George.

Without a public option, the bloodsucking insurance companies have no incentive to lower health care costs. Socialized medicine? Bring it on!

Our Community Organizer and Chief has to take the credit for all ACORN is at this time. While he was speaking to the Union Supporters at the same time another station was showing child prostitution conceling and tax fraud.
He has to stop talking and start thinking or he is over in one term.

Icarus just lost his wings… WOW, that was fast! Just think what he’ll do for the next three years… Ugh! I’m getting sick of Bush 3rd term policies. Maybe he really IS Cheney’s cousin? Ya think!?! Different name, same policies… “If the shoe fits…”