Pawlenty Backs Off Nullification

It’s also highly unlikely your liberal bed wetters will get a free doctor visit on my dime, as well.

That thought process didn’t work for South Carolina before the Civil War, either.

What would happen if some states accepted and other states refused health reform, some states would become health debt ridden while other states would benefit very well from health reform. Citizens would relocate to states who have health reform leaving left behind states in the dust to become “ghost” states. Putin may very well be correct. America is falling apart, and left prey to Iran, Russia, China, or even the Taliban or worse. Health care reform is very important to pass and become available to its citizens in America otherwise beware of a extremely slow dying America.

I am happy Gov. Pauley has backed off. If the republicans decided to go this route, they would see a revolt like never before. If you think the tea parties were big you will definitely under estimate the size of the march on his office will produce and any other states including Georgia which is my state. The people want health care. The answer is to work together to get it. Period.

WhatChange? You really make me lauph you just like the rest of you repunlican morons who allow yourselves to be programed by fox news because you are tostupid to have an idea of your own are really pathetic. You dont even realize that the very people telling you helth care reform is bad for you will destrot america will kill grama will cause an end of the world ect ect are the insurence companies and the republicans. The very people that stand to lose billions if the public health option comes into affect and you are so stupid you just eat up there lies. You want to know something moron I am in the middle east and guess what the former president your hero George Bush did in iraq. He used your tax payer dollars to set up and fund and pay for Iraq’s current universal health care system. The republican want it for them are willing to pay for it with your money but its a bad idea for you to have it. You instead should continue to get ripped off by big insurence. You are an idiot please please please not reproduce!!

I live in Massachusetts and I don’t see any waiting lines? If the governor means waiting to see a doctor or specialist, its the same. I have private health and my parents use the Mass Health. I don’t see any difference. We both still have to make appointments and BOTH still have to WAIT for the office to give us an open slot.

Wow, no wonder nobody wants to live in SC!

The Republican Party is a masked party. They want all for them and none for others. Therefore, Republican ideology is no different than Communistic Regimes. And that would make Republicans a non Christian party. Jesus Christ was the great healer, the great physician, free of charge for his health care services. Possibly the exchange may have been free nights stay and food provided by the family in health crisis. Jesus would explain to rich kings and folks who asked “How do I get into the Kingdom of Heaven?” Jesus would reply that they had to sell and give away everything they owned to those in need. Well, the story goes with the rich king living Jesus crying. The rich king wasn’t willing to do away with everything. Republicans are no different. They want to keep everything for themselves and give absolutely nothing to others who are in need or different than they are. Therefore Republicans aren’t Christian and are fraudulant in their presentation of saying they are Christian. Republicans believe in “the survival of the fittest” and no less than. This ideology would prove they do believe in Darwin, since Darwin is one who drew Evolution from the statement of survival of the fittest. In conclusion, Republicans are highly dysfunctional and psychotic in that the pretend to be something that they aren’t and on the other end they are wolves dressed in sheep clothing. Republicans are highly dysfustioncal individuals and groups who keep changing the subject or topic of the day, hoping their sales pitch will stick like cooked pasta to vertical walls. We all know that when the hot pasta cools, it will fall down from the wall. It’s just a matter of time that the Republican Party will fall and be placed in rehab. With any luck they will come out of rehab Centrists, or willing to meet in the middle for a “Jesus” meeting to determine effectiveness of therapy. If they pass, they get to leave rehab, if not, oh well, back to therapy. Health care reform must pass for the financial and physical health of America, its 50 states and territories, and most of all its citizens as a whole. Synergy doesn’t work unless all of its parts are working in collaboration. Communism fails if only system. Free markets and social programs must work together to keep synergy otherwise, the system become very ineffective and stops working at all. Pass health care reforms fall 2009. Be there!

Government based health care has been proven time and again to NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY. Do you really want a political system making your decisions about your health and well-being? Tennesse and Mass. are just current examples of the problems “Obamacare” will create. What happened to freedom of choice?

I see, so some of you claim government healthcare like the VA, Tricare, Medicare and Medicaid has been proved again and again not to work. Why doesn’t the Republican Party have the guts to put a bill on the House and Senate floors eliminating them and replacing these programs with private sector vouchers and tax credits?
Pawlenty just knows he’s not considered right wing enough to beat the real crazies in a primary and that’s why he’s saying all this stupid stuff. Even if he decided to exclude his state from reform, he can’t stop the Federal taxes that his citizens would have to pay. He would face a revolt far worse than the petty governors who resisted the stimulus funds faced.
Here’s the deal, health care reform is going to pass and it will be the moderate bill that Obama favors, with a strong trigger but no public option in the final passage. This will happen no matter how much Republicans continue with their immature lies and BS.

we dont have any money and we dont have any jobs….how is this going to be apid for? pretty simple question

Stephen making dedsisions about your well being? Freedom of choise?? Do you really belive that we have that now?? Are you really that brainwashed? Wanna know what happeneds to me and my wife last year. We had a private health care company plan. Our Doctor prescribed some medicine for my wife that was evidently pretty expencive. Well when we went to fill the prescription the lady at the counter said im sorry. We just contacted your insurence company and the said they would not pay for this medicine. They say you have to try a over the counter medicine instead they wont pay for this. Well since we dont have a lot of money and the prescription was expencive we bought thee over the counter meds they said to by. My wife got worse. Finaly I borrowed the money we needed and bought the medicine the doctor prescribed. Also forget about ueing them you dont have enouph money to fight it in court they have a battalion of high priced lawyers that will put it off and off and off till you are broke.

democrats control house, senate and prsidency….who should be blamed for thsi bill? must be the new harvard/ chicago math because it certainly isnt the republicans. the american people dont want what has been proposed to date and that is the public option, which by the way was not something obama promissed during the election. he prommised reform of insurance.

I don’t remember anyone asking how we were going to pay for Iraq. The middle class became poorer in the time between the Bush tax cuts and early 2008 (that’s BEFORE the financial crisis). Ronald Reagan never once balanced the budget and exploded the national debt. Before January 20th, 2009, all the deficits we had since 1980 were generated by “fiscally conservative” Republican presidents. Healthcare reform is a tax cut for the middle class and it’s going to pass.
Obama already said that he would pay for it in three ways: First, savings from eliminating waste and fraud Medicare (without touching the Medicare Trust Fund), second, letting the Bush tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans expire and capping their rate of deductions to what they were under Reagan (28%) just like other middle class Americans and 3 taxes on the most luxurious private health plans on the market – a step recommended by the CBO to rein in premium growth and health inflation.
There, you have it! Now let’s have a mature, philosophical and policy debate about which combination of revenue measures is best and why, not some emotional BS and lies that pretends everything (Iraq War, Medicare Prescription Plans etc) can be free of costs.

I have cancelled my Republican run health insurance premiums, and have set up with Democrat run insurance company. I don’t want Republicans determining my fate any longer. See ya Republicans! Hopefully this will inspire others to stop their Republican health care insurance and give their premiums to those who really care about their individual and family health. End this nonsense. Make Republicans jobless and businessless. Pass Health Care Reform 2009. Put Republicans out of business! Pass Health Care Reform 2009.

Just think! Here’s a guy who wants to be President of the what – un-United States? Give me a break! These idiots are why we are in the mess we’re in. I am so happy that he won’t matter anymore.

The only people who can possibly support Husseincare are pathetic, good-for-nothing entitlement trash.

I keep seeing “how do you pay for it?”.
It’s like this. What has been proposed will cost more than the current poor system. The excessive costs come from insurance costs and profits and Dr.’s, Hospitals, ER rooms, clinic’s being paid by what is called “piece work”. The more things a Dr. does the more he or she makes. By changing to a fully national program each medical practitioner would be paid a good salary. Adjusted for living costs for the area. All prescription medicine would be paid for by the medical tax collected from everyone. More kids? More tax. The Dr. is the final authority on what treatment is done or not done. The DR.’s patient load would be determined by 1. number of Dr.s available for the number of patients. 2.If the patient load is to high, 32 patients per day ave, the salary would be increased until more Dr.s enter the system. All Dr., nursing, and other medical education would also be paid for with this national health tax. With high standards. No malpractice. An independent committee will review each complaint and if found guilty of malpractice the Dr., nurse, etc. would lose their license. The patient would receive whatever income or other help needed, for the rest of their life if necessary. This will cost about 20% less than we currently spend total. No VA, no Medicare, no Medicade, illegals on an emergancy case only. I believe in helping everyone if their life is in danger. Thats what being a Dr. is about.

I live in Minnesota. T-Paw is my governor. I would not wish him on the rest of the country. — Come home, Tim, your state is in deep financial trouble and you are AWOL.

To Matthew, President Obama has mentioned and repeated over the last 3 months on how it will get paid. Unlike the Medicare part D (which included ‘death panels) and Iraq War which were red ink.

We don’t need healthcare reform!! Just continue to allow insurance companies to control our healthcare or just privatize it like most conservatives suggest… Insurance and private companies are solely concerned with profits, not health and wellness for patients, but Republican’s want me to believe they are better suited to manage our healthcare? My wife just had another major surgery; hospitalized for nearly 2 weeks and prescribed several medications, my out of pocket expense aside from my monthly insurance payments $200.00 dollars, for her hospital stay… When I hear people criticize any possible government run healthcare program it sounds comical and almost laughable because Tri-Care works… Ask you’re elected Senators and Representatives who pays for their healthcare? Taxpayers!! What a bunch of hypocrites…

Looking at George whose had pants had fallen down and who laid face first on the floor, Seinfeld commented: “And you wanted to be my latex salesman.” To paraphrase Seinfeld: “And Governor Pawlenty, you wanted to be my President?”
The Republicans need a better ConMan than this.

I suggest that Obama call the right wing fascists bluff. State that he will, by executive order, abolish Medicare, Medicaid and the VA Health system, effective October 1, 2009. All funds in those accounts will be refunded on a pro-rata basis to taxpayers and there will no longer be payroll deductions for them.
Then, we’ll see how much they do or do want government healthcare.

I guess he doesn’t know what the civil war was fought for:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Also,
It also states that no State shall make any law abridging the rights of any of its citizens without due process of law. The 14th Amendment is important, but the first clause is the most important. Prior to the 14th, states were free to ignore the Bill of Rights; a series of Supreme Court rulings made it clear that the Bill was to apply to acts of the Federal Government only. With the establishment of the 14th, the Bill, or at least parts of it, is made to apply to state law, too. This clause has resulted in some good law, such as the Voting Rights Act. But States’ Rights proponents are opposed to the Amendment in parts and/or as a whole.

What was missing in the AP story about this statement from this guy was that while Obama has praised MN as being a leader in providing health care affordably, this joker line item eliminated the health insurance for 30,000 general assistance where the majority are disabled in some after maneuver passed so he could avoid giving the budget back to the state legislature for balancing. Neither did he negotiate or try to find common ground for his budget cuts. I find it unfathomable after what he has done to MN in the last 8 years that Chris Matthews keeps floating his name as a “centrist” and possible presidential nominee.

IF Tenn and Mass programs aren’t working then the federal govt can learn from there mistakes just like Howard Dean said. At least most of the people in those states HAVE health insurance and don’t rely on the ER as their GP. Nothing is perfect, including what we currently have.

So lets see, the Republican’s Knight in shining potential Armor speaks double talk as he does the back stroke on the 10th comment and this is a candidate for President. Are the GOP desperate to have him front and center? For sure they are, Sarah Palin another drowning victim looking for a lifeguard…
On the one hand the Obamacare states that he drops as examples Massachusetts and Tennessee have the highest costs of health care in their attempt at universal health care but the government should stay out of it and leave it to the states??? what am I missing…what is he missing more like it…and he said it with a straight face…well, their high costs are not Obamacare at all…its because they have no public option to compete with the health insurers, the very insurers the Repubs are trying to protect.
This guy Pawlenty is a whimp who is bad at even being a Republican because he can not micmic their stupidity and double speak bodly enough to at least try to convince anyone in that form; in other words, like Palin, he’s an empty suit.
Talking points, lies and misdemeanors, they say what ever they can to incire, to destroy, to degrade and not contribute and solve problems. Leaderless and rudderless, as people in their Party of NO…

We aleady have “death panels” in Texas, thanks to then Governor Bush. We have a law where a group of doctors on a hospital committee can decide how far care goes when someone is at the end of their lives. Even if you have a DNR that says to go all out to keep you alive, it can be overridden by this panel. So for all the ballyhooing that the Pubies do about Obamacare “killing” Granny…it already exists in the state where I live. My husband and I do not intend to spend our Golden Years here.

the 50% of the country that make America great by working every day dont want this healthcare bill. no free rides. this is ridiculous. and on top of it all, these govt elites wont even participate or be required to partake in thie healthcare disaster- they will get the ‘royal’ treatment. real fair.. do as i say not as i do. my understanding is teddy, the swimmer’ kennedy opted out of the socialized healthcare in massachusetts so he could get the best brain doctor he could find- at duke university. i want TEDDYCARE!!!!

Why are we allowing the conservatives who don’t care about anyone else to win this debate. When are people that make $35000 a year going to say we need reform of the health care mess.Tim Pawlenty has cut money from the university he attended(Univ. of Minnesota), he has cut 35000 of Minnesota’s neediest people from Minnesota Care,he even cut state aid to his hometown of So.St.Paul.Run for President,he should go back to being an attorney. Then he could push for tort reform. He has to be right about something.

“this is all so laughable….still how is this going to be paid for?”
LOL. I guess the same way we paid for George W. Bush’s trillion dollar budget buster tax cut for the wealthy, and his TWO bungled wars with no clear purpose in the Mid East! Those things alone could have paid for Health care reforms many times over, they were and are so hugely expensive.
The Tea-Baggers never said a word while those errors drained our once solvent (Thanks Bill Clinton!) nation’s coffers.
When Reagan broke the bank, they were silent too! Transparent haters all of ‘em!

A social system within our democratic republic is not socialism. Just because you put a crown on Miss America, doesn’t mean she is the Queen of England. There is no way without a strong reform bill, and we cannot trust a for profit insurance industry to do what is right for the thousands of Americans who need health care. Also don’t assume these are just the unemployed, many folks who work their tails off are denied for pre existing conditions, and just cannot afford their health insurance.

Let the state decide what they want in the insurance exchange themselves. An exchange with private insurance across state lines, with or without a government run public option or a COOP. Some states might want all three choices.

People have never worried about how we are going to pay for anything, so why now. Do you know how you are going to pay your bills monthly? If so, you shouldn’t worry about something you don’t see any way. You want get any of the taxes dollars that you will have to pay, so why worry about it. You didn’t ask Pres. Bush how he was going to pay for the war, Right? So, stop the lies, its about whom the President is, get over it, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks George for calling out the mis- information that these politicians are still spouting off..It’s unfair to the American public to be fed lies about health care reform.
joe

I am amazed by the subversion, violently anti-patriotic rhetoric coming from the GOP. This is the party that threatened people for the past 8 years if they questioned anything that Pres. Bush said or did, even when he was telling a bold faced lie and sending their children into war. Yet these same people will viciously attack Pres. Obama for encouraging kids to stay in school or for wanting to provide them with life-giving health care.
This is what happens when you mix zealous religious belief with political power. Religious people react based on faith, not facts, and they don’t question the mouthpiece of their movement. Nothing is out of bounds for the religious zealot, since they are guided by “manifest destiny” and “divine right”. They have God on their side, so nothing they do could possibly be wrong, including murder in the pews of a church (clearly a violation of God’s Commandment, “thou shalt not kill”). That would make this radical fringe of the GOP a sort of “chained monster” that the GOP can let loose on the Nation when it serves their political interests. All they have to do is use the violent language of rebellion and stir-up uncontrolled emotion with anything that gets these monsters worked into a frenzy.
The men and women running the GOP have lost their moral compass, are blinded by their self-righteous egos and encourage their followers to risk all, including violent acts coordinated by their leaders, to regain a strangle hold on power. I would not put it past this group of traitors to try their hand at civl unrest and even civil war.
From Gov’s Perry to Pawlenty to Sanford, we are increasingly hearing the call for secession from the Union. This is almost a repeat of 1861 when white conservatives in the South decided that brothers killing each other on the battle field was better for their people than coming to the table to find common ground with President Lincoln. I say, let them try it and we’ll send armed troops into those States to arrest their Governors as traitors.

Peeuw-plenty!
or is it
Paw-limpy?

Just what America needs in 2009- another John C. Calhoun. Anyone seen Jefferson Davis?

To Post by: mike | Sep 13, 2009 12:28:27 PM
I am an idependant, I guess I can spell and orate a little better than yourself. Why is it that when one has an opinion that differs from that of yourself, one is stupid and ignorant. I believe that these names are used since no intelligent argument can be presented by yourself.

When the real estate market gets better I will be moving to South Carolina. Love Mark Sanford, Jim DeMint all those guys. Wish we had them where I lived. If all you crazy people out there think the South has nothing but racist, why has Georgia, South Carolina , Mississippi got the largest amount of blacks that vote Republican? No one is there chaining them to their porch. They’re alot smarter than you are.