President Obama: Once Health Care Reform Passes, “I Own It”

@ Flashoverride:
and what the AMERICAN people wanted….

What astounds me–simply astounds me–is that significant numbers of Americans who are such craven sheep that they actually believe that ceding the vital responsibility of providing for their own medical care to the United States government is a good idea.
And don’t worry, Flash–even without the public option, the congress will still succeed in eliminating private decision-making from the delivery of medical care. I am glad that I am not young enough ever to bear the consequences of this monstrously insane folly.

Obama will own it if successful.
If not it’s Bush’s fault.
Since Obamacare doesn’t go into effect into 2013 Obama is hoping he will safely be reelected.
If OC is a failure at that point what does he care.
Obama didn’t seem to mind saddling the next generation with massive debt.

It’s truly astounding how obama supporters just blindly swallow without question…what happened? “Im from the government and I’m here to help you….” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
With all of the access to information available, still they swallow whole information that DOESNT ADD UP , no matter how it’s spun, it DOES NOT COMPUTE !!!!
Thank God for boomers, at least we know to question authority.

This hasn’t reduced my costs. My premiums are still going up 25 percent, insurance companies are still jerking me around,’ I’m the one who’s going to be held responsible. So I have every incentive to get this right.”
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Who cares if he’s held responsible? It isn’t about him.
If those things happen, it will be bad for millions of people. It will be bad for our economy. The American people will be hurting. Our Health Care system will be in disarray.
Who cares what it does to him politically. It’s about the people, Mr. President. We’ll own it.

“Pick a target. Freeze it. Personalize it. Polarize it.” Seems the community organizer forgets he has a new job now.

Flash, I have no responsibility for you whatsoever, and– thank God–you have none for me: stay out of my life.
Any man who would rather funnel his money to the government instead of to a private concern with which he freely contracts has the soul of a serf.

“I have no responsibility for you whatsoever, and– thank God–you have none for me”
A true sociopath.

Why should Obama listen to conservatives. He was elected by democrats to follow the democratic plan, like he spelled out on the campaign. This is no longer a conservative world….and Obama is doing just like he promised.
Go Obama…thank you for fighting for those without a voice….may god keep you in his light.

I think its time to thank the GOP for making it clear that they won’t even vote for a bill that has everything they want in it.
This situation has given Obama alot of power over the Blue Cross Democrats, and will end up giving us a better bill.

nice try, MayBee, but making stuff up is a whole different kettle of fish than having the press cut your statements up into sound bytes.
Don’t blame Obama for what the press didn’t tell you.

“A true sociopath.” Actually, a true lover of individual liberty, the very notion of which is foreign, if not hostile, to the statist and the parasite.
Ten percent of you will be unemployed during Obama’s presidency.
He owns that, too.

More tan ninety American soldiers and marines were killed in Afghanistan in July and August. Obama owns their loss.
What is his exit strategy?

Obama has already had to back down publically on abortion and illegals being covered in Obamacare–thanks to townhalls and Joe Wilson. That’s if anyone trusts Obama’s word.
I think Obamacare will be very watered down but he’ll till claim victory.
Next on the chopping block–public option.
If it comes down to pleasing the progressives or his legacy–what will Obama choose?

Obama wants us to ignore the scare tactics of the Repubs, Palin, FOX, townhallers.
But remember if Obamacare isn’t passed
MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE!!!
It’s a crisis so we have to pass it NOW!! As urgent as the stimulus.
Even though it doesn’t start until 2013.
After reelection. How convenient.
Obama the drama queen.

Go Obama…thank you for fighting for those without a voice….may god keep you in his light.
He doesn’t need God. He’s a Lightbringer!

Our leader should be a “real” American with serious qualifications like Glen Beck or Rush Limbuagh. No one is interested in a black man who was born on some island that tries to pass as a state. I never voted that island in for statehood. We on the Right are trying to de-legitimize this president, mostly because he’s black, and those unamericans in the liberal run media are working against us by treating the president like, well, like HE’S THE PRESIDENT. We are absolutely terrified that a black man is president!!! The SOUTH shall rise again!

Ownership Memo continued: You own THE worst Cabinet Vetting Process ever, Manhattan Flyover, ACORN funding through HUD, ACORN Child Prostitution scandal,& Coming Attractions the Loss of Afghanistan

Will the US allow the Taliban to drive us out of the place from which the 9/11 attacks were launched, simply because the Democratic party lacks the will and the courage to defeat them?

And they wonder why millions of people are upset? Posted by: Fascist Hyena
that might be true, millions may disagree as you say, but……
the other hundreds of millions do agree and want reform….. but of course, all those people don’t matter as they don’t fit in with the right’s constant paranoid pleas and self flagellation .

Each year 22,000 Americans die each year because they do not have access to adequate medical care. (According to a study conducted the Urban Institute of Medicine, compiled by Stan Dorn.) That’s 7 times more than the number of lives we lost in 9/11 – and that loss is happening every year.
The infant mortality rate in the United States is twice as high as the infant mortality rate of Sweden or France. It’s also higher than the much-maligned “socialized” medical systems of Great Britain, Canada, and even Cuba. (1) Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina, all have one thing in common. Their infant mortality rates are 3 times higher. (2) Yet Senators from these states consistently attack the medical systems of France and Sweden as “socialistic.” It’s just too bad babies cannot make campaign contributions.
We are supposed to be a Christian nation. If so, why do we permit these human tragedies to occur?
Time and time again, the discussion of Obama’s medical care revolves around costs and balancing the budget. It never considers the tragic cost in human life that is occurring right now as the so-called “debate” still rages.
Jesus spent most of his time on earth healing the sick. Never once did he ask any of the people he healed about their HMO or their ability to pay. Was Jesus a socialist?
If we were truly a Christian nation, there would be no “debate”. We would provide medical care for every one. We would find a way to pay for it, which includes taxing the super wealthy. Ironically, many of the people opposing Obama’s health care reform are supposed to be Christians. If so, they certainly are not practicing what they preach.

“Was Jesus a socialist?”
Jesus was a bleeding heart liberal. In fact, he was the king of bleeding heart liberals.

“It’s just too bad babies cannot make campaign contributions.”
“We are supposed to be a Christian nation. If so, why do we permit these human tragedies to occur? ”
Why do we permit abortion which kills millions ?

“I OWN IT.” BEFORE OBAMA IS THROUGH, HE WILL OWN A COMPLETELY RUINED NATION OF HIS OWN MAKING. HE HAS NO CONCEPTION OF WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN’T WORK!! CAPITALISM COMBINED WITH THE JUDEO/CHRISTIAN ETHIC BUILT THIS NATION. THE LIBERALS ARE ATTACKING BOTH = DISASTER.

“Why do we permit abortion which kills millions ?”
Because in a democracy with a separation of church and state we cannot take medical control of womens bodies away from them for religious reasons. They have to resolve their decisions with their religion themselves.

“Killing babies by abortion is a political and legal issue, not necessarily a religious issue.”
You are going to find it extremely difficult to give legal rights to a person who hasn’t even been born without securing the mother’s legal protection first. If there are huge numbers of unnecessary abortions it’s a failure of our religious leaders too. Why are so many women afraid to have these children? There is plenty of fault to go around. Let’s start with unwanted pregnancy.

“Hundreds of millions??”
Sigmonde | Sep 13, 2009 5:55:09 PM
Most polls peg over 70% of people wanting health care reform (ranging from only tort reform through to universal single payer). The US population is over 300 million, so yes, hundreds of millions is technically correct (although it does stretch it a bit).

Jesus was a bleeding heart liberal. In fact, he was the king of bleeding heart liberals.
Posted by: Skip | Sep 13, 2009 5:51:43 PM
I don’t believe so. From my research, everyone is equal in his eyes and responsible for his/her own destiny. He didn’t control anything, he gave instructions. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor is an option, one that can and will be rewarded. How will the wealthy be rewarded by the obama administration?

“Jesus was a bleeding heart liberal. In fact, he was the king of bleeding heart liberals.”
Jesus was apolitical, and to quote him, his “party” is “not of this world.”

“…the Right like to mix politics and religion more than I’m comfortable with.”
Nutters on the left mix their atheism, agnosticism and their hatred of conservative with their politics all the time.
So it’s not exclusively a right or left thing.
Personally, I think left nutters are more bigoted, intolerant and hateful than right nutters.

“But what about the more than one hundred thousand people who HAVE medical insurance YET die EACH YEAR due to mistakes made in the hospital?”
Clearly, the problem lies with physicians and hospitals. So if we merely outlaw all licensed physicians from practicing medicine in a hospital…we’d solve all our problems. LOL.

“The President will “own it” until he finds a way to blame the GOP for the ensuing disaster.”
BH | Sep 13, 2009 7:03:26 PM
Ask the Republicans how well passing the buck worked in 2008 (and boy did they try – I think everything wrong in the country is still the fault of the minority party to some of them).

“Jesus would want us all to sell everything off we possibly could and just give all that money to the poor and the sick no questions asked…”
Right. He wanted YOU and I to sell our possessions and give to the poor.
That doesn’t green light nutters to use Jesus’ words to advance a political ideology that has nothing to do with his ultimate aim: glorifying his Father – particularly when most on the left are incessantly obsessed with obliterating the very mention of God from the public square.
Jesus’ mission wasn’t about starting a political movement.
“…and if it wasn’t enough to help them all then we ought to care for them for free ourselves if we have to.”
Right. WE individuals should do this to and for the glory of God, not Obama, not the U.S. Govt, ourselves, etc..
“Any other interpretation of his teachings is ridiculous.”
Agreed. Which is why nutter lefties and nutter righties should give up the idea that Jesus would be a zealot of either political party.
“He valued no earthly possessions at all.”
Right. Unlike the 538 members of Congress and our President whose collective net worth exceeds $1 million each. So if the left is such a prime example of Jesus’ teachings why aren’t they leading by example? Where’s a Pelosi or John Kerry surrendering millions to feed the poor and provide them health care for the glory of God?
Frankly, I’m not sure you really understand what Jesus really said, taught and why he did what he did.

“But I have read the Gospels in several translations and I can tell you there is nothing in there about letting people go sick when we have the resources to help them but balk at the price.”
So what’s your point, Skip? Yes, Americans are lousy at giving to the poor. But are you going to claim that liberals are really more generous than conservatives. Most studies I’ve seen is that despite our lousy persaonl giving tendencies as a whole, conservatives are significantly out giving liberals.

Obama may own title, but the working American will be making the payments for generations to come…

“I have no interest in having a bill get passed that fails,”
Sure he does.
The stimulus is a failure.
Now on to even bigger failures!

“The truth of the matter is that there has been, I think, a coarsening of our political dialogue.”
LOL!! That’s rich coming from a man that hired Van Jones, is connected to ACORN, sorta called a Cambridge cop a racist, and hasn’t lifted a syllabel to say anything against the Democrats who’ve unleashed names like Nazis, KKK and SEIU member beating up a black conservative calling him the n-word.
I don’t thank God for Obama at all. This country is in terrible shape and he’s only making things worse because of his lack of and/or wrong kind of leadership.
I cant’ wait until his term ends and he is out of office.

“That’s rich coming from a man that hired Van Jones, is connected to ACORN, sorta called a Cambridge cop a racist, and hasn’t lifted a syllabel to say anything against the Democrats who’ve unleashed names like Nazis, KKK and SEIU member beating up a black conservative calling him the n-word.”
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You really have to scratch around to find these few shreds of nastiness by the Democrats.
On the other hand, the stream of filth from the fanatical right is never ending on this site.
The right are neurotic liars.

“Scratch around”…..they said it in front of camera’s and wrote op-ed pieces using this coarsing language.
What your post proves is that Obama and his minions are perfecting the art of Orwellian Newspeak doublethinking.

“I own it”….O.K., you got it! Tick…
tick….tick….

“shreds of nastiness by the Democrats”
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Yes, the ‘nastiness’ should have been in quotes. There’s really been almost nothing.
The right on the other hand, has spewed for endless bile and filth on this site and through all forms of media.

This President has never once been accountable for anything – what leads us to think he will accept responsbility for the outcome of health care reform?
When he iniated the Stimulas Plan the contention was that “Bush got us here” and “Obama owns the recovery.” He told us that his Presidency hinges on the outcome.
Since it isn’t working he is still blaming Bush.
He campaigned on the “no earmarks” platform. Take a gander at the Budget he signed in 2009 – a tad rich on the earmarks.
Now he is saying that “he owns Health Care reform.”
That is what he is saying today – my guess is that when it doesn’t perform or contain any of his promises he will blame it on Bush.
The reason this speech did not move the needle is because we all recognize that he is a good speaker and has a calming demeanor, the fact is he can side step, bob and weave and duck responsibility with the best of them – and he does just that.
Fact is, this President promised transparency – (which he is yet to produce, I might add) and, frankly, we are all starting to see through him (this is not the transparency he had in mind).
He is claiming ownership of Health Reform but when the time comes he will blame someone else – the republicans for sure and maybe even Bush.
In a word: he is fast to say what he is going to do and just as fast to blame everyone but himself when it doesn’t work out.

Obama will be on “60 minutes” every Sunday for the rest of his term and give a “major” speech every Wednesday as well.

thats the problem he thinks he owns this country.

bonnytruth, from 2000-2008 the def. in the dictionary for nastiness was democrats. They invented it with all the filth they spewed at Bush. I’m hearing today that no president has ever been treated like Obama. What? WHAT? My what short memories the left has. Bush was called everything from the master mind behind 9/11 to ignorant. Come on. You cant have it both ways. The left can dish it out but they sure can’t take it.

“When Joe Wilson called out “liar” I think he was saying “The Emperor has no clothes.”
So does the “Emperor have no clothes” or do the “clothes have no Emperor” (“empty suit”) (?)… I go back and forth on this…

“I see comments on ACORN. I doubt that a couple employee’s actions are representative of the entire company.”
How many accusations of voter fraud and documented evidence of ACORN assistance to promote tax evasion and child prostitution is necessary before an investigation is launched?
“I see mention of “czars”, but a lot of these so-called czars are in positions created by the legislature or have been confirmed by the senate.”
You may want to check your “facts” here, Champ. Have any of these positions been “created by the legislature”? Congress does not have oversight over these “departments” and even some Democrats are concerned about the authority they wield. Obama is side-stepping confirmation and diminishing role of Cabinet Secretaries (which do require confirmation).
“I see mention of “truther” but I don’t see any mention of the right’s “birhter” comments.”
There is no equivalance amongst these two issues. One claims that Obama has not sufficiently proven that he was born in the U.S. and eligible for office. The other accuses the U.S. government (specifically, former President G.W. Bush) as having advance knowledge of the attacks of 9/11 which would make the U.S. government complicit in the deaths of almost 3,000 people. Again, there is NO equivalance whatsover. Very weak argument on your part, you are grasping for straws.
“It is easy to make numerous accusations with loosely based facts then to actually create a hard hitting argument, and it seems that is what the right is doing.”
Wrong. This is exactly what YOU are doing.

Mr. President, you may “own it,” but We the PEOPLE will have to live with your Trillion Dollar MISTAKE for a lifetime. It would behoove you to stop listening to David Axelrod and start listening to the American people whom you supposedly represent. If you think those hundreds of thousands of Protesters in DC on Saturday are not MAINSTREAM, you are badly deluded and need a reality check!!!

Yes we can!!!!!!
Because of the past administration and no regulations is why we are in the mess we are today. If anyone think it can do it better, now is the time to speak!

Our president has proven to be unaccountable for his statements. So he can say whatever he wants, I can no longer believe him. He is the most rare and dangerous kind of politician. He has tremendous power (especially with no press to hold him accountable) and he is much more interested in redistributing wealth than in getting reelected. His lies will catch up to him but by then the agenda will be enacted.
If he is successful with his leftest agenda he knows the leftists will create a statue in his image. That’s all he wants is the love of the left whether its the left in the USA or the left in Venezuela.

We’ll, 83% of public has insurance that they like. So what’s going on here? The man should stop worrying about a health plan. Fix the other 17% of folks who could use a smidge of help on their health plan. Make sure there no illegals in the plan, or the plan is going to be over. And don’t create a 50 state health plan. We will never let Obama do that.

“We’ll, 83% of public has insurance that they like. So what’s going on here? The man should stop worrying about a health plan.”
Where did you get that figure from?
According to a July Time Magazine poll, 89% said they were currently covered by some kind of health insurance, and of that group 86% said they were “very” or “somewhat” satisfied with their plan.
That same poll asked “Would it be better to pretty much stay with the current healthcare system and just make some minor adjustments, or does the system need major reform?”
55% Major Reform
43% Minor Adjustments

Even if only 40% of insured were happy with their current coverage, that doesn’t mean this is a good bill and should be passed. Everyone would like improvement in their benefits obviously, and even Republicans favor reform, but feel this bill will result in a decrease in healthcare quality and higher costs that will rise exponentially into the future.
Also, Obama seems to think that the fact that he would “own” the bill is a reason that people should trust that his position is correct. The fact that he would own the bill is no different than how any president owns anything that happens on his watch. Nobody’s buying that one. You better believe Obama and the Democrats would end up strongly associated with this bill, no question about it.
But it’s not about Obama’s credibility or political capital. It’s about doing what’s right for the country and succeeding generations, and preserving what’s good and works in the medical system today.
It’s also not about “civility”. Obama and the left have never been bothered by lack of civility before. It’s about the content of the bill, how it would actually work, and how it would affect the quality of healthcare in the country.
And if anyone thinks this bill would actually REDUCE healthcare costs, or make the economy stronger, I’ve got a bridge you will love. And buy. For lots of money. I’ll take cash.
key said it below: Obama won’t own it — we will. He and the politicians that are pushing this will be insulated from it’s effects, and will continue to get their world-class medical care.

Even if only 40% of insured were happy with their current coverage, that doesn’t mean this is a good bill and should be passed.
Posted by: mr | Sep 15, 2009 9:55:23 AM
Before I even consider your opinion on any health care bill, let me ask, are you the same mr who twice claimed there were extensive changes made to the Dept. of Education lesson plan prior to Obama’s speech to school children? Are you the same mr who listed 9 questions that you claimed were changed due to pressure, and yet those 9 questions are still in the lesson plan to this very day?

“President Obama’s speech last week really moved me. Despite what my colleagues think of me. If what he says is what will EXACTLY happen, how can I not hope and work towards that cause”? Mike Oliphant runs a small Utah health insurance website http://www.benefitsmanager.net/SelectHealth.html and http://www.dentalinsuranceutah.net whom deals with hundreds of people on a day to day struggle to be approved for health insurance. “I get hopeful that I can finally tell people they can qualify for coverage REGARDLESS of their pre-existing medical condition”. Mike’s concern is that Obama’s people won’t deliver what he urges on areas within his speech. “I really have been moved by this guy and wish we could just talk so he could understand the frustration of a health insurance agent. I have been involved on a political level within the state of Utah and their struggle for health care reform. I have seen and regrettably been part of politics at work. I have learned lessons through baptism of fire with politics. For instance, I struggled against House Speaker Clark and H.B. 188 because that was what I was urged to do from our industry (that was all I knew). But after awhile and countless meetings with state and private carriers in Utah, I began asking myself if I was doing the right thing. I realized over time that House Speaker Clark really means what he says and is hard nose about getting reform done in Utah. I got that there wasn’t any behind the scene conspiracy scheme or personal objective of Mr. Clark. His bill makes allot of positive changes in the “health insurance reform” world of Utah. He claims that reform just doesn’t stop there, it must continue through “health care reform”. You see, there is a major difference between the two reforms. Clark “gets it” but I really worry that Obama’s administration doesn’t because if you have noticed the subtle language change of dropping “health care reform” and going to “health insurance reform”. See more about what Utah has accomplished here which utilizes private carrier involvement with true reform. If you can believe it, they reached it with an objective of $500,000. Perhaps the feds should take a look at Utah and House Speakers Clark’s bill 188. http://www.prweb.com/releases/utah_health_insurance/health_care_reform/prweb2614544.htm. Now I find myself on the “other side” of the fence furthering Utah’s cause. Let’s hope we don’t all have a mental breakdown nationally and just take a honest look at the proposals.