President Obama Reaffirms Power of Indefinite Detention, Will Not Seek Additional Congressional Powers

I am sure this was one of the idiotic provisions passed after 9/11 that basically destroyed American constitutional rights. The thing, however, is to CHANGE what Bush and Cheney did.

The lurid hypocrisy of Obama is in plain site of everyone. For years and during the entire campaign, Obama and the democrats hammered Bush for “over-reaching” his authority to detain these terrorists. And now look what Obama is now doing – oh but Bush was different. Bush claimed an “inherent executive power” Can anyone explain the difference? President Bush’s power was inherent because congress gave it to him years earlier!

If Obama said ‘No we won’t do this anymore’ he’d get hammered by the Right. If he says ‘Yes we will continue to do this’ he still gets hammered by the Right.
This proves that no matter what Obama does, he’ll get hammered by the Right.
More proof that the Right will not support the President under any circumstances no matter what he does…….

So he claims he is going to close Gitmo, but yet he has the right to hold them indefinitly but Bush didn’t. Did I miss something?

Obama has been slowly but surely becoming G.W. Bush No. 2.

Hahahahah how’s that “change” working out for ya?

Always amusing when naive, ignorant liberals are kicked in the face by truth and reality….but scary when one is playing president. Few writing here understand that we are a nation at war nor do you care – probably because you are happy and comfortable that “others” are protecting you and making the sacrifices. I am disgusted to be a part of this pathetic, spoiled and stupid generation of Americans.

Obama is not a hypocrite, he’s far worse – a naive ideologue forced to make decisions when his world view (fill in any liberal blog name here) is forced to face the world as it really is. Gitmo is an excellent example of this. A similar dynamic is responsible for the dismal poll numbers of the democrat party lead Houses after they awkwardly seized power from their superiors and the mess they’ve made of the nation ever since.

The awesome responsibility of the presidency often changes the ideology of the man who ascends to that office. I am quite relieved to see President Obama revise his campaign promise and respond to the realities of Islamic terrorists by restricting the so called rights of Gitmo prisoners in order to protect the lives and properties of Americans. I am reminded how the 1994 Republican Congress and Newt Gingrich partnered with President Clinton to engineer sound policies for the last six years of his administration. The election of 2010 could well accomplish the same for President Obama. I believe if he was free of the radical left wing of the Democratic Party that he could begin to forge a government that works for us all.

So much for changes.
Hard to accept the Bush and Cheney did the right things isn’t it.

Now that Obama has admitted it to himself that he has no idea what he’s doing, White House staff meetings will finally start making progress as they ring with the words “….what would President Bush do…”

When will people in this country realize that GITMO and the leagacy will come back to haunt this country. What we did to Japanese Americans came back to haunt us and the country had to pay for it. Americans never learn from their experience, we seem to be destined to never learn from our mistakes. Just remember the old saying, “What goes around, comes around.” We must think of our actions, for the people that we hold in GITMO when released, for someday they will be, or their family, for some have children. The anger that they will hold and build will make them decide something worse than the Towers. My point people we are not learning from our past and I’m more worried about the damage that will happen in the future.

“Jake will be the next to go Fox. And he will fit right in.” -abepagota
I don’t know what your beef is with Jake, he’s more “Fair and Balance” than FOX News any day of the week.

I have always said that within a few years, Bush’s presidency will be seen in a much different light than when he was being vilified by the left and the MSM, much the way Reagan’s was. Continuing Gitmo, continuing the Patriot Act, continuing the same schedule for Iraq, continuing the same levels in Afganistan, etc., etc. The only thing that is different is the lack of criticism from the media.

This is really sad accually. I am a 20 year veteran of the US army I am still currently in the army and it scares me to hell. What happends to me in the next war when I become a POW? When the war is over and america demands my release under the ganeva convention and the other side says sorry but they are never being released we can hold them indefinatly just like you do. What will the US say then? Will I sit in a prisoner of war camp forever? We are on a si\lippery slope that will do exacally that to the next generation of american soldiers if they are captured by the enemy in the next war we will be held indefinatly never see are families again and there wont be one argument the US will be able to use to secure our release under the laws of war because the US has determened that they dont have to follow them so no one else will either.

hahaha, BO has figured out that most Americans do not care about gitmo, so he’s going to keep it open, hahaha.
Yeah and all that Bush hate, I’d love to see the look on his face after seeing this. I bet he has that smile that the left hates so much. He kept them safe and they cussed and reviled him the whole time. Now BO is keeping them safe and they “just don’t understand why their new president is following bush’s policies” hahaha (really laughing)

POWs in every war have always been incarcerated indefinitely. They are not criminals so cannot be tried, they are just captured combatants, yet they can’t be released because they just go out and kill more of your troops. Those of you who don’t understand this, go look at the POW camps in the US during WWII.

POWs are not tried and are not released until the end of hostilities. This particular war may last indefinitely, as should the detention of captured combatants. They are the ones who signed up for the fight. Too bad so sad.

“I am a 20 year veteran of the US army I am still currently in the army and it scares me to hell. What happends to me in the next war when I become a POW? When the war is over and america demands my release under the ganeva convention and the other side says sorry but they are never being released we can hold them indefinatly just like you do” posted by mike
Mike, the war isn’t over. And the problem with many of the remaining detainees is not that their countries are demanding their release, it’s that if we send them home they will be imprisoned and tortured by their own country. So our own laws prohibit us from sending them home. And if we bring them here for trial and fail to convict them, where do you think they’ll be released to?

“Bush’s presidency will be seen in a much different light than when he was being vilified by the”
Really?
The sitting President of the worst terrorist attack in our history, starting a war over a lie, presiding over th worst economic meltdown since the Depression?

It’s only evil if a Republican does it…

Bush? The worst economic meltdown since the great depression!? Bush!? Really!?
Do you even WATCH the news? Obama has put us so far in debt that our children’s children won’t even be able to afford to pay attention!
Bush left office with around a 2t deficit. Care to let us know what is is now? My God liberal ignorance knows no bounds.
And lets forget the fact that terrorists have ramped up attacks on our soil. 3 major bomb plots uncovered just this week alone! Thank God we were able to have the power to infiltrate and STOP them due to the efforts of POTUS Bush.
Lord, can the Democrats do anything else to make themselves look like an even bigger bunch of buffons? YES THEY CAN!

the funny part about all this is just a few months ago, the right was criticizing the presidentt for closing guantanamo saying his timeline was not realistic. now they’re bagging on him for not doing it fast enough?
the timeline hasn’t changed. the administration is simply voicing their concerns.. not saying theyre not going to do it. whatever.. you guys will find anything wrong with him doesn’tt matter waht.

Looks like the experiment of letting a zero-experience-but-great-speaker take a crack at the presidency is not working out too well. Now if we can just survive until 2012.

You could fly an airplane into the open mouths of the lefties when they read this stuff. “…reaffirmed its belief this week that it has the power to indefinitely detain prisoners at Guantanamo.” Are you friggin kidding me?! This has got to drive the radical left absolutely nuts. The biggest case of buyer’s remorse hangover ever.

Maybe the republicans have done some kind of body-snatcher thing and replaced Obama with an imposter. “Who are you and what have you done with the the real Mesiah?”

Remember, we consider it a mark of a repressive regime if they hold prisoners indefinitely without charges or trials. And the only authority we have to do it is the one we gave to ourselves. Great.

Maybe they could accidentally “lose” the prisoners during the transfer to new detention sites, like the government keeps losing plutonium shipments, money shipped to Iraq, and VA military records. Government bureaucracy and all that, you know – can’t exect them to keep track of everything.

And the BUSH 3rd term continues… Can we at least hold THIS guy accountable, the last guy got eight years without anything… Haven’t we learned ANYTHING yet??? Hell-o!!!

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, IT IS THEIR DUTY,TO THROW OFF SUCH GOVERNMENT, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
Republican? Democrat? Who cares. Both have shown that they care nothing for the lives or liberty of the American people. The Constitution is dead. Obama should be removed from office NOW! He needs to spend the rest of his life sitting in a solitary confinement.

It was not just Obama, just like it was not just Bush or any other POTUS in recent memory. Congress controls more of how things get done than the POTUS. Read the powers delegated to the office of POTUS. Everything not on that list requires a Congressional vote.
To fix this country we need to take a few bold steps. First and foremost would be to impose strict term limits on all elected officials, especially Congressmen and Senators. Term limits would destroy these lifelong partnerships and corrupt special interests.
After term limits, get some fresh faces in there on BOTH sides, Dem and Rep, for most are or have been party to corruptness in their terms. After that, set to actively repealing any and all laws, gov offices or appointments, ect, that are Unconstitutional.
Return this country to as close to Constitutional correctness as we can get, as fast as we can get it there, and over half of our problems will be solved just with those actions.
The rest will not be solved until men and women have a return to common sense, honor, respect, and decency, and take a course in morality and ethics.

The folks at MoveOn must be having a kinipshen fit. Maybe they can use all those giant HOPE posters as dart boards.
Posted by: jspatz1 | Sep 26, 2009 1:54:13 PM
Kinipshen fit? Is that when a German tailor takes measurements for children’s short pants?

I believe holding anyone without just cause is tantamount to kidnapping. If there is little evidence substantiated with proof the courts of this land should intervene to ensure human rights are protected. If there is evidence or supporting evidence, put these men on trial.
But to hold anyone in suspended animated based on knowledge that certain people possess, and others want to know is not what we are about as a nation. We preach justice and yet we may not practice justice the way it was structured. If these people have knowledge and/or are a threat to our security than they should be tried. That is the American Justice system.

It seems that there is no difference between Bush and Obama.

An interesting legal question, which will be determined by the Supreme Court after 2012!

Our system of law is based on habeus corpus. Briefly that means that everyone detained must have a hearing/trail within a reasonable period of time. If not, they go free.
By reinstituting this system, the administration betrays one of the basic principles our government is based on.

Another promise failed? Don’t you love smart politicians?

Come on people don’t act like you don’t know that politicians say things to be elected.

“Come on people don’t act like you don’t know that politicians say things to be elected.”
So where’s the CHANGE? Where’s the new Era of Responsibility? Obama is proof that a slick $750 million campaign and a compliant media can sway millions of ignorant, starry-eyed sheep who are now realizing the horror of what they’ve done. It’s time to pay the piper, America.

“Obama is proof that a slick $750 million campaign and a compliant media can sway millions of ignorant, starry-eyed sheep who are now realizing the horror of what they’ve done. It’s time to pay the piper, America.”
According to a recent USA Today/Gallup poll, 72% of Americans say Obama “is willing to make hard decisions,” and 66% describe him as “a strong and decisive leader.” 64% think he understands the problems Americans face in their daily lives.

Change… change… where’s the change? The only change I can see is that Obama gave Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano a hunting license to investigate right-wing activists here in the US based not on any crimes they have committed, but solely on their political convictions. Preemptive investigation – or “Waco/Ruby Ridge Part Two.”
Is Obama looking at Guantanamo Bay as a great place to put those pesky pro-lifers and gun rights activists? I thought that part of “change we can believe in” was an end to peremptory and lifelong confinement of subjects without due process of law.
Obama voters, you got fooled big time! Your man is just a skinny, tall version of Richard M. Nixon.

Hey Numeros, tell the 26+ million unemployed/underemployed Americans (and rising) that Obama is “popular” when they’re losing their homes at record rates and can’t put food on the table. I’m sure they care.

Sounds kind of like ‘executive privledge’ to me. What an absolute rookie!

Without just laws and due process of law we have nothing but anarchy. Before slavery was outlawed it was legal, that did not make it just. When women were denied the right to vote it was legal but it was not just.
The ability to detain someone without charges, evidence or any process of due law is unjust regardless of how ‘legal’ they may claim it to be.

OMG! Obama is Bush Lite!

Poodle Puppet!
8 more years just like the last 8?
Gates speaks as if he is a Cheney Clone.
Judeofascists loved promoting their “Islamofascism” propaganda.
Carrots(bribery) Sticks(murder) Coercive Diplomacy(extortion & blackmail).
Did you see all the same bloodthirsty AIPAC-paid recycled neocon shills on TV selling more war for profit?
Watch as they pretend to know nothing of the mounting 9/11 evidence, whistleblowers, & leaks that point to them