By Natalie Gewargis

Sep 8, 2009 11:50am

President Obama to 9th Graders Thinking About Politics: Watch Out for Facebook and Youtube!

Jake Tapper and Karen Travers Report: Taking questions from a small group of 9th graders at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia, this morning – before his nationally televised address to students – President Obama was asked for advice by one young man who said he aspires to be president some day.

Offering some “practical” advice, the president said, “I want everybody here to be careful about what you post on Facebook ‘cause in the YouTube age, whatever you do it will be pulled up again later somewhere in your life. And when you’re young, you make mistakes and you do some stupid stuff and I’ve been hearing a lot about young people, they’re posting stuff on Facebook and then suddenly they go apply for a job and someone’s got to search.”

The President went on to tell the student to work hard, and to follow their passions. The best public servants are the ones who become active in causes that interest them, and then later run for office, he said.

Another student, whose parents are divorced, asked the president whether he would be president if his father Barack Obama, Sr. — who abandoned him and his mother when he was 2 –had been present during his childhood.

The President said his father’s absence forced him “to grow up a little faster,” to “raise himself a little more” and to make more mistakes. It all made him stronger, he said.

- Jake Tapper and Karen Travers

User Comments

“Rep. William Ford, chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of President Obama’s appearance” before the students.
Oh, wait, that was President Bush who was investigated.
“The National Education Association denounced the speech, saying it ‘cannot endorse a president who spends $26,000 of taxpayers’ money on a staged media event at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, D.C.”
Will the MSM tell us how much money was spent at Obama’s media event? Will the NEA protest?
The press and the NEA are mainly liberal leaning Democrats but as Byron York reminds us, “the question may not be so much who they are, as who they hate, or at least who they intensely dislike.”

Posted by: WhereWasThePress? | September 8, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

“Will the MSM tell us how much money was spent at Obama’s media event? Will the NEA protest?”
WhereWasThePress? | Sep 8, 2009 12:24:04 PM
Did they report the costs of Airforce One flights for any Republican President?
And for Bush’s speech, where were the calls to keep kids out of school? Where were the party officials throwing rhetorical firebombs like, “President Obama has turned to American’s children to spread his liberal lies, indoctrinating American’s youngest children before they have a chance to decide for themselves”? Where was the hysterical outrage?
Nowhere. Just a few Congress critters wanting to hear themselves talk as usual. But don’t let that stop you from spinning the old false equivalency lie. The “liberal” media is more than willing to help you, in the interest of ‘showing the other side.’

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Wish a student would have asked why elected officials send their kids to private school.

Posted by: trinket59 | September 8, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Hey kids:
Sorry about saddling you with trillions because of my reckless spending.
My apologies to your future children because they’ll have to pay too.

Posted by: ollie | September 8, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

He supposedly referred to himself 56 times in this speech, which was way over twice the times he referred to education or the nation. I think he did manage to mention the family, but only once. Personally, I don’t want my kids growing up believing that they should ‘obey’ the government – I want them to QUESTION the government and to hold them accounatable to ‘we the people.’

Posted by: Elaina | September 8, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Still waiting to get the cites of angry hordes of Democrats in 1991 claiming they are scared of Bush and keeping their kids home.
All I’ve seen is a cite to an article that claims the Washington Post ran a “front page article” about Democratic congresscritters complaining after the fact that Bush was trying to counter advertising that was painting him as out of touch with domestic issues through his speech. The only WaPo article they have in their archives (“Funding of Bush Speech Draws Fire; Democrat Calls Education Broadcast Paid Political Advertising”) was run on page A13 (I guess that’s front page to the Republican press) and didn’t call Bush a socialist/facist/Hitler/etc even once.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

Hey, the right wing whiners are out again! What did you ask to get off work to see the speech?

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

“He supposedly referred to himself 56 times in this speech,”
Elaina | Sep 8, 2009 1:02:00 PM
Oh for goodness sake, it’s not that long a speech to read yourself. But you got your talking point, you don’t care about verifying it to reality in any way, or doing any critical thinking like comparing it to equivalent “I” speeches (see Bush, 1991 Alice Deal speech to students), you just want to repeat it.
Supposedly, the majority of Republicans now don’t even pretend to think for themselves or verify in anyway their party’s talking points. At least they’re upfront about it.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Once again liberals and Barry’s Administration get caught up over this. All too easy…

Posted by: Francis | September 8, 2009, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

jhw, you should read he said what’s post and follow the link. Why is it now okay for the president to do the same thing Bush Sr. did plus add a lesson plan? I don’t mind the speach nor the money spent, seems like a good idea but what I do mind is the “lesson plan”. are the children to be graded on their answers? What happens if the teacher doesn’t agree with the child? Were these questions and answers going to be sent to the WH? How about leaving it up to the teacher to have a discussion with their students after the speech, reenfourcing the Presidents principal points and then move on with their day.

Posted by: rose | September 8, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Probably killed Obama to not be able to pimp his govt run health care with naive
school kids.
Posted by: max |
That’s what he will be doing tomorrow night.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | September 8, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Check this out:
Actor Charlie Sheen has formally requested a meeting with Barack Obama to discuss the claim that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job conducted by members of the government. The story of this request is exclusively reported by Alex Jones’ organization at Infowars and
Sheen wrote an article titled “Twenty Minutes With The President” in which he hypothetically speaks to Obama and presents his documented evidence that 9/11 was an inside job. That piece is also exclusively published by Alex Jones at Infowars.com and
Media wishing to request an interview can e-mail

Posted by: Nicholas | September 8, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

pst jhw, Got a little secret to tell you, Bush is GONE!(Don’t tell anyone!)

Posted by: rose | September 8, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Posted by: rose | Sep 8, 2009 1:15:12 PM
The same thing could be said about the wars, economic policy, bailouts, etc…

Posted by: Broke | September 8, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

“jhw, you should read he said what’s post and follow the link. Why is it now okay for the president to do the same thing Bush Sr. did plus add a lesson plan?”
I did read the link, and as I pointed out it was lying and exagerating the coverage – a small page 13 article became a big “front page article.” Going to the primary source rather than the obviously (lying) biased account of it, it boiled down to a few Congressmen positioning for the 1992 election to paint Bush Sr as out of touch domestically (sound familiar? Why Bush lost in 1992, and entirely unfounded in my opinion).
“I don’t mind the speach nor the money spent, seems like a good idea but what I do mind is the “lesson plan”. are the children to be graded on their answers?”
Posted by: rose | Sep 8, 2009 1:15:12 PM
The lesson plan was 2 pages long and entirely optional, posted on the web. Of course the questions weren’t going to be sent to the Whitehouse – are you nuts?
Note the following line from Bush Sr’s speech – what do you think today’s Right would have done if Obama said it?
“Do it for yourselves. Do it for your future. And while you’re at it, help a little brother or sister to learn, or maybe even Mom or Dad. Let me know how you’re doing. Write me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals.”
It was fine when Bush Sr said it, and it would have been fine when Obama said it. (As a disclaimer, I am biased as I voted for both Bush Sr. and Obama.)

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

“He supposedly referred to himself 56 times in this speech,”
______________________________
“Supposedly”?
Doesn’t matter how encouraging the President was for children to stay in school and apply themselves – the fanatical right wing has their hateful agenda and they’ll push it.
Yawn . . .
Can’t wait till we move onto the next issue so the right can hate the President for that.
Americans see this for what it is, and they’re getting really tired of it.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Oh my goodness!!!! What is the matter with you naysayer people???? All last week you were whining a fretting about some agenda being promoted in the President’s speech, (I even saw a television interview where a woman was crying), and NOW some of you naysayers are being critical because the President did not mention his agenda. I declare I have not seen such madness in my life!!! Where is the respect for the office??? …Before some of you go there… it was WRONG when they criticized President Bush for doing the same type of speech and its WRONG now!!!

Posted by: FS | September 8, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

“pst jhw, Got a little secret to tell you, Bush is GONE!(Don’t tell anyone!)”
rose | Sep 8, 2009 1:19:56 PM
pst rose, Got a little secret to tell you, learning from history is not a bad thing! And Bush Sr was the last great Republican president, he laid the foundation for Clinton’s economic boom and brief deficit elimination – the party SHOULD look to him for some tips.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Maybe the person that thinks he wanted to sell HC to kids can’t read. The original speech had nothing to do with HC it was all about being responsible for your actions. I applaud the President for taking the time to speak to our youth. And I think it’s too bad he had to take out the part where they had an assignment. I want our youth to grow up with their own thoughts an ideas and be able to verbalize them. I don’t want people that breed hate and judgement. If a teacher disagreed with student she should use that for discussion but not to say her thought is the right thought like some of these parents seem to be doing even before he spoke.

Posted by: Roberta Worstell | September 8, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

jhw539. The difference here is, Bush left politics out of his speech, but then was still attacked. On the other hand, we may never know if it would have been so with Obama’s speech. It seems both sides loose on this one. Children-2, last two Presidents-0. I like that score.

Posted by: mojo | September 8, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

I liked his pro-education message… and I like the fact that conservatives told their kids that Obama’s message was socialist.
If their kids associate public education, hard work, and success with socialism… in the long run… it will be good for socialism.
And, while I am not a socialist, I do appreciate the fact that the GOP is working hard to make themselves look ignorant, backwards, and mean.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Breaking News:
President Obama gives speech to encourage American students:
initial reports state:
- world does not end
- civilization does not collapse
- right wing fringe still desperate for issues

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

“pst jhw, Got a little secret to tell you, Bush is GONE!(Don’t tell anyone!)”
____________________________________
Yeah, but not the mess he left. A spiralling national debt, surging deficit, the country embroiled in 2 wars, the country disgraced internationally, the economy in complete freefall, 700,000 losing their jobs every month . . . and so on.
You want to sweep this under the rug? Not a chance. We remember.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Hey kids:
Sorry about saddling you with trillions because of my reckless spending.
My apologies to your future children because they’ll have to pay too.
Posted by: ollie | Sep 8, 2009 12:46:09 PM
Hey – why weren’t you complaining when Bush doubled the national debt in less than 8 years and took 1/3 of his Presidency as a VACATION??? Could it be that his skin color matches yours???

Posted by: Mel | September 8, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

My 11th grader wants to ask him why there is a $10 billion earmark for the UAW in HR3200.
My 6th grader wants to ask him why he keeps hanging around with radicals who hate white people, and why he hates white police officers.

Posted by: Karen | September 8, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

He should have defined “stupidly”.

Posted by: Karen | September 8, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

“The difference here is, Bush left politics out of his speech, but then was still attacked. On the other hand, we may never know if it would have been so with Obama’s speech.”
mojo | Sep 8, 2009 1:25:39 PM
Bush was not attacked for the substance of his speech. And your other hand is absurd – do you seriously think Obama’s speech was ever more than a boilerplate go get em? Do you think he was going to start pushing tax policy to grade schoolers like Reagan did or something? I guess “we will never know” if his speech was promoting cannibalism and fratricide either. We will never know… what shallow rhetorical spin.
The Right wing hysterics just cost them a little more credibility in the eyes of independents.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

“Hey kids:
Sorry about saddling you with trillions because of my reckless spending.”
__________________________________
Even children can evaluate things better than this comment.
Bush left a spiralling national debt, surging deficit, the country embroiled in 2 wars, the country disgraced internationally, the economy in complete freefall, 700,000 losing their jobs every month . . . and so on.
You want to sweep this under the rug? Not a chance. We remember.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Good advice. Too bad his buddy Van Jones didn’t think about that when he implied my Environmental engineering student daughter and her classmates are wannabe ‘white polluters” who are out to poison minority children. then again he really believes that! So Barack takes up an hour of the first day back so he can get some buzz going about tommorow night’s Health Care wake. His message being “personal responsibilty!”… I find it ironic that nothing so far that has emitted from this White House has anything to do with “personal responsibilty.” every piece of legislation has been about letting someone else pick up the tab!

Posted by: countrycuz | September 8, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Were these questions and answers going to be sent to the WH?
Posted by: rose
absolutely !
- those not answering correctly were to be taken away from their parents by force, by the newly formed Obama Secret Youth police, , and sent to FEMA re-education camps.

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

-Bush left a spiralling national debt, surging deficit, the country embroiled in 2 wars, the country disgraced internationally, the economy in complete freefall, 700,000 losing their jobs every month . . . and so on.
You want to sweep this under the rug? Not a chance. We remember-
Good for you. And we got a 2nd helping with Barry. Thanks!

Posted by: Goldman Rulz | September 8, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

“My 6th grader wants to ask him why he keeps hanging around with radicals who hate white people, and why he hates white police officers.”
Karen | Sep 8, 2009 1:30:11 PM
Your 6th grader is probably wondering why his mom is implying a President who has surrounded himself with white men is racist… Kids are astonishingly good at seeing such obvious lies, they don’t get so caught up in rhetoric that they can’t use their own two eyes.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Good advice Mr.President. now go and check out his buddy on You Tube accusing white environmentalists of deliberately polluting the water of minority children. Just google “Van Jones and White polluters.”

Posted by: countrycuz | September 8, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

“Bush left a spiralling national debt, surging deficit, the country embroiled in 2 wars, the country disgraced internationally, the economy in complete freefall, 700,000 losing their jobs every month . . . and so on.”
Good for you. And we got a 2nd helping with Barry. Thanks!
Goldman Rulz | Sep 8, 2009 1:34:02 PM
Could you cite the two wars he has started? Has the economy gone from surplus to deficit since he’s taken office? Is our country’s international standing lower since Obama took office? Are 700,000 a month losing their jobs?
Just wondering if your comment has any basis in reality or if it was just another shallow Right wing bumper sticker exageration.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Bush 41 and 43 aren’t Presidents anymore…b-b-but…
“The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students,” House Majority Leader Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) said. “And the president should be doing more about education than saying, ‘Lights, camera, action.’”
Two House committees demanded that the department explain the use of its funds for the speech, an explanation that Deputy Secretary David T. Kearns provided late in the day in a letter to Rep. William D. Ford (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. Education Secretary Lamar Alexander was out of town. [...]
Rep. Patricia Schroeder (D-Colo.), chairwoman of the Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, said it was outrageous for the White House to “start using precious dollars for campaigns” when “we are struggling for every silly dime we can get” for education programs.
Rep. Martin Frost (D-Tex.) said that if Bush feels obliged to use government funds to hire outside consultants “to make him look good,” then he should fire some of the public relations experts on the White House payroll.
“Then the president might be more sympathetic to unemployment benefits,” Frost said.
Makes one wonder if today’s media, with the economy in what they’ve repeatedly called the worst recession since the Great Depression, will question Obama’s use of education funds for his upcoming speech.
After all, when you look at Education Secretary Arne Duncan’s letter concerning this event, one has to assume it’s costing the Department a great deal of money.

Posted by: Frosted Flakes | September 8, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

My 6th grader wants to ask him why he keeps hanging around with radicals who hate white people, and why he hates white police officers.
Posted by: Karen | Sep 8, 2009 1:30:11 PM
Hey Karen – My kid and the WORLD wants to know why you hate the President so much??? What in your life has changed so much in the last eight months??? Why do you teach to hate at such a young age??? Why is universal health care for all AMERICANS so wrong??? It is a moral issue not one built on imagery fear that GOPers preach with their slightly veiled racism each and every day!!!!

Posted by: Mel | September 8, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

“Van Jones didn’t think about that when he implied my Environmental engineering student daughter and her classmates are wannabe ‘white polluters”
____________________________________
Uhm .. . didn’t major American corporations ship a WHOLE bunch of jobs overseas into 3rd world countries where they could manufacture and pollute without more freely? Aren’t 3rd world countries largely people of color?
Your daughter might actually learn something. Now wouldn’t that be a terrible thing.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

No wonder why libs can’t pass healthcare. They’re fighting a rearguard actions with righties over some stupid school speech. Easily confused fools…

Posted by: DSM | September 8, 2009, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

“After all, when you look at Education Secretary Arne Duncan’s letter concerning this event, one has to assume it’s costing the Department a great deal of money.”
Frosted Flakes | Sep 8, 2009 1:36:54 PM
Riiigggghhhttt. It’s not like recording and sending video is any cheaper today than almost 20 years ago, right?
And I still don’t remember the corporate media publishing the Airforce One costs of any Republican president.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 8, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Mel, YAAAAWN! Same color as Obama and Van Jones. The same on the outside NOT on the inside!!!!

Posted by: rose | September 8, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

one has to assume
Posted by: Frosted Flakes
you have just characterized the central theme of conservative republican ‘thought’….

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

I don’t know what he’s talking about. Both he and Bush were “persons of contempt” and they were recruited and “inserted” into office. I think the more accurate message is if you are an enabler of the banking interest and the globalist, militarist agenda of occpation and world empire to steal another countries natural resources, there is no limit to what you can do before office, or after… You truly once and forever above the law, as long as you “play ball”… In this Obama and Bush are the SAME! No question….

Posted by: jafo | September 8, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

The thing is, it’s a shame ANYBODY is listening to the haters on the right.
They are marginalized extremists and largely hate mongerers, and should be treated as such.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

They are marginalized extremists and largely hate mongerers, and should be treated as such.
And you can’t stop talking about it…

Posted by: H8 | September 8, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Van Jones. William Ayers. Frank Marshall Davis. Bernadine Dohrn. Our President has so many radical associations that he would not pass a background check to become an FBI agent.
For example, research indicates that William Ayers wrote most of Dreams of My Father.
It seems like Obama is intent on ruining the country.

Posted by: Colonel Rebel | September 8, 2009, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

So, he tells the kids that he made mistakes, goofed off, etc. when he was young. I guess now the question is “what’s changed”? He can SAY whatever he wants to, but the fact is what you DO is much more telling. I hate to beat a dead horse, but let’s talk about Jeremiah Wright for an example. Obama was a part of his church, claimed the man was his “spiritual mentor” and so on. It doesn’t take long to see the videos and read some of his (Wright’s) rantings to figure out what kind of person he was (and is). We all figured it out in about 3 months. It took Obama over 20 YEARS. And yet, given the chance, he will STILL give him the benefit of the doubt. What does that tell our kids? Would you really want your children hanging out with another child who says the United States is evil? That people of another color are bad? And would it please you to know that your child either wouldn’t or couldn’t figure out that this child isn’t good for them to listen to or be in a relationship with?
And as far as Bush is concerned, once again we get the “both sides of the mouth syndrome”. Out of one side, Obama says “don’t look back, look to the future”, out of the other side “look what we inherited, look what THEY did, look at how BAD that administration was”. Oh, yeah, that’s showing kids how to dig in and take care of problems. If things don’t go your way, just throw a fit and blame it on the other kid. Hey, it works for the president, so why not them? Give me a break.

Posted by: Shoe | September 8, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Posted by: gobot | Sep 8, 2009 1:47:46 PM
Yay for the status quo!

Posted by: Goldman Rulz | September 8, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

-It seems like Obama is intent on ruining the country.-
He’s just some stooge in Wall St’s pocket. No imagination. Bush III, case closed.

Posted by: Fin | September 8, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Posted by: rose
when you finish your snipe hunt for the monsters in the dark, and make a cogent point that’s not innuendo or supposition about things that haven’t happened, you’ll deserve a better response..
until then, enjoy my sarcasm about the hysterical right and the ‘sky is falling crowd’

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Fell right for what?
Standard conservative boilerplate?
Sounds like you fell for it… in a deep and loving way, Monty.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

“julie and mel, please reread all your posts and then tell us who the racist and haters are.”
___________________________________
Rose,I reread all my posts – and the posts from the extremist right wing here.
It is the extremist right wingers who are posting all the hate against the President.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Obama says “don’t look back, look to the future”, out of the other side “look what we inherited, lPosted by: Shoe
and what exactly do find wrong with that statement?
are you implying that ‘”look what we inherited’ isn’t true?

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

* or – I was just asking a question nothing more. I actually said I thought the speech was a good idea what in the world was wrong with that? Is it just the fact that I don’t worship Obama that drives you crazy?

Posted by: rose | September 8, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

President Obama’s message to kids:
“It’s okay to be a radical hate mongering communist & propagandist, just don’t get caught”.
No mixed message there…

Posted by: adam smith | September 8, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

what I do mind is the “lesson plan”. are the children to be graded on their answers? What happens if the teacher doesn’t agree with the child? Were these questions and answers going to be sent to the WH?
Posted by: rose
you make negative assumptions based on what?
why not include, ‘if the students answer wrongly will they be denied lunch’?
why not include, if the region the school district is in voted republican and doesn’t show the speech, why should the students of Democratic voters be denied the opportunity to watch the speech?
you can endlessly make up scenario’s and ‘what if’s'….

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

When people think that they are the only thing standing in between the American and catastrophe… they play for keeps.
The feel persecuted. They worry about death panels and brainwashing and the end times and FEMA and so on. So, really, their heightened rhetoric is a natural outgrowth of this.
Just listen to talk radio and you will understand why these people are so panicked.
If you recall the Clinton Administration, similar things happened (although, with Clinton, there wasn’t the same degree of intensity). First talk radio started up on him…. talking about his socialist leanings, his dirty friends, his wicked plans for America. They used to circulate fake videos about Clinton’s involvement in drug trafficking and murder. And, eventually, they started talking about FEMA and all that. It did not take long for someone to move from words to action.
Because of Obama’s background… and because of the internet… this is all happening much more quickly and much more aggressively.
But the worst thing about it all… is that people who imagine themselves to be heroes fighting for their own survival… they see themselves as justified, pious, righteous… even if they are being vile and hateful. They imagine that future generations will thank them… and, in a handful of cases, they imagine that they will be rewarded in the afterlife if they do something extreme.
You are right to be worried about it. And you are right to talk some sense into people. But don’t let it get you angry. We live in a time when people are under a “great delusion.” And, if you believe there is a devil, like I do, it only makes sense that the most overtly pious would be the ones most tempted by this delusion. The devil is out to get Christians… and what better way to do this than to pervert their fundamental beliefs and put them into service to persecute their neighbors… to turn their greatest asset, their faith, into a perverse tool for those who wish to rule this world.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Didn’t see that rule when Bush was president, that’s for sure.
Posted by: GetReal
to be sure, what we didn’t see were progressives bringing guns to political meetings

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

-to be sure, what we didn’t see were progressives bringing guns to political meetings-
What law was broken?

Posted by: Bang! | September 8, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Who cares if someone is white or black. Better to judge people based on how they choose to represent themselves.
If someone wants to judge Obama based on vague notions of difference, unsubstantiated rumors, and innuendos…
You can just assume, whatever their race, that they either aren’t capable of thinking…. or they just choose not to.
They might have some racial motivation. But you don’t need to be a racist to hate someone for no good reason.
You might just be a hard-core partisan. And in this climate, the people representing themselves this way, tend to be conservative.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

The thing is, it’s a shame ANYBODY is listening to the haters on the far right.
They are marginalized extremists and largely hate mongers, and should be treated as such.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

What law was broken?
Posted by: Bang!
your missing the point, which is that it’s not about a persons right under a gun law to be in public wearing a firearm, no one denies that right if the individual state deems it appropriate…
it’s the ‘rationale’ of showing up to a political meeting in this case on health care reform, where the president or anyone else is speaking with a gun….
if the issue was gun ‘rights’, I could see the point of doing that if a person feels that’s the only way to show their support..
but…. what is the point of showing up at a ‘town hall’ political meeting on health care reform with a gun strapped to your hip or semi automatic rifle over your shoulder.?

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

“The thing is, it’s a shame ANYBODY is listening to the haters on the right. They are marginalized extremists and largely hate mongerers, and should be treated as such.”
You are making the same wrong assumptions as the Obama WH. You are confusing opposition to The One’s policies with “hate” and “extremism”.
I don’t hate Obama, I vehemently disagree with his redistributionist policies and his view of government’s role in our society (“bigger is better”).
I think he is a hypocrite and do not believe much of what he says (he has proven to be a different leader than the one he said he would be on the campaign trail).
I think his reckless spending is mortgaging our future. He doesn’t appear to have any concerns for deficits which indicates to me that (a.) he puts ideology above country, or (b.) he doesn’t know what he is doing. Either option is distressing.
When did dissent cease to be patriotic?

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

julieterra,
Glenn Bleck! said it himself…. he’s out to make money.
It’s just like Howard Stern. I think Howard Stern’s show demeans women and corrupts people…. but, people tune in to hear perverted things.
Glenn Beck does the same thing, but for people whose taste for perversion resides in other types of depraved behavior.
Personally, I am more vulnerable to hearing women talk dirty. So, if I were to give in to my inner demons, I would probably listen to Howard Stern.
Other people are more interested in sadomasochistic political fantasies involving African American men in positions of power…. they listen to Glenn Beck.
And he makes great money at it.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

How dare Obama mention God in his speech!!!!! doesn’t he know about the separation of church and state LMAO lets hear it Libbys Obama was WRONG in mentioning God in School LMAO

Posted by: He said What? | September 8, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

“what is the point of showing up at a ‘town hall’ political meeting on health care reform with a gun strapped to your hip or semi automatic rifle over your shoulder.?”
What is the point in hanging out at a polling location in Philadelphia on November 4, 2008 wearing fatigues and berets and yielding night sticks?

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

-your missing the point-
No law broken, Case closed. If you don’t like it, start a petition to change the law, write your elected representative, whine all you want, leave comments here, etc…Exercise your rights! You’re uncomfortable? Well, too bad.

Posted by: Bang! | September 8, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

When did dissent cease to be patriotic?
Posted by: tjp612
- one might explore the Bush years for an answer to that……

Posted by: iota | September 8, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

@ Posted by: gobot | Sep 8, 2009 2:47:58 PM
Have ever watched Glenn Beck’s show or listened on the radio? Can you disupute anything he has said as non-factual?

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

No law broken, Case closed
Posted by: Bang!
guess the question was a little much for you to answer.. OK

Posted by: + or - | September 8, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

The thing is, it’s a shame ANYBODY is listening to the haters on the right.
They are marginalized extremists and largely hate mongerers, and should be treated as such.
Posted by: julieterra
Apparemtly President Obama IS is listening to the haters on the left.
but shh…..remember…. Van Jones NEVER used hate speech & racism. And he would NEVER ever sign a document that claimed the Bush Administration orchestrated the 9/11.
How many self avowed communists were in the Bush administration?
Hmmmmmmmmm………and you iberals STILL don’t get it!

Posted by: Mike_C | September 8, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Have ever watched Glenn Beck’s show
Posted by: tjp612
is that the same Glen Beck who acted out the poisoning of Nancy Pelosi on his show?

Posted by: iota | September 8, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

-no one denies that right if the individual state deems it appropriate…-
You being uncomfortable is not a cause for public concern. Sorry. Nothing complex about it.

Posted by: Bang! | September 8, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

-is that the same Glen Beck who acted out the poisoning of Nancy Pelosi on his show?-
Write the FCC. Exercise your rights. + or – can help you with that if you feel uncomfortable.

Posted by: Bang! | September 8, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

tjp…
Thanks for being here. Yours is a most-refreshing voice to have, then.
I miss talking to conservatives who actually base their opposition to specific policies.
I like Obama. And I will respect him, like I respect any president, not because he’s “the one”… but because he is the symbol of our nation’s great government. We live in the best country on Earth precisely because we CAN elect leaders.
I know that there are lots of people who make this mistake in both parties… but at some level, the President deserves a basic amount of respect because he is an expression of the people who elected him.
On these grounds, I encourage people who oppose his policies… to stick to policy… rather than try to sully his character through innuendo.
I happen to like dissent, but not for its own sake. I like dissent because it offers us all alternatives. But when people use their free speech to act like idiots…. I am not going to walk around saying they are noble for their dissent. They are what they choose to be.
People like Glenn Beck are not offering alternatives…. they are only offering fear and the hope for vengeance. It is purely emotional. And, the founding fathers are very clear on what they think of emotional rule. Everything in our government is set up to protect us from the capricious character of public opinion….
So God bless you for preaching sanity to your own team. I hope they listen to you.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

the non- factual Glen Beck:
Beck falsely claimed Iowa marriage ruling “is actually about going into churches”
Discussing the April 3 Iowa Supreme Court ruling striking down the state’s ban on same-sex marriage, Glenn Beck falsely asserted on the April 13 broadcast of his Fox News program, “I believe this case is actually about going into churches and going in and attacking churches and saying you can’t teach anything else.”
In fact, the unanimous court ruling explicitly states that constitutional principles “require that the state recognize both opposite-sex and same-sex civil marriage. Religious doctrine and views contrary to this principle of law are unaffected.”
The Iowa Supreme Court further stated that the ruling does not affect religious institutions’ definitions of marriage:
A religious denomination can still define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and a marriage ceremony performed by a minister, priest, rabbi, or other person ordained or designated as a leader of the person’s religious faith does not lose its meaning as a sacrament or other religious institution. The sanctity of all religious marriages celebrated in the future will have the same meaning as those celebrated in the past. The only difference is civil marriage will now take on a new meaning that reflects a more complete understanding of equal protection of the law. This result is what our constitution requires.

Posted by: here's just 1 of many | September 8, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

You being uncomfortable is not a cause for public concern
Posted by: Bang!
you should take some time to review american history from say 1960 on…. and check out what happens when guns are brought to political events…

Posted by: iota | September 8, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Posted by: Bang! | Sep 8, 2009 3:02:18 PM
Even the name…. it’s just drenched with swaggering recklessness.
Seriously, legal issues aside, it is a pretty compelling personal moral issue….
When you tell people to bring guns to crowded, highly emotional events (and you know that many of those people feel persecuted to begin with)…. aren’t you morally responsible in some way for contributing to any foreseeable tragedies that could result?
I know its part of the conservative worldview to be brash and make no apologies for it…. but wouldn’t you feel bad if someone tried to hurt the President? I know you don’t like him… but… he’s our President!

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

I don’t know…. maybe I grew up differently. In my family, we treat every incident of political violence, from JFK to Ronald Reagan, from Oklahoma City to MLK, as a deep tragedy.
I kind of think we all lose when someone threatens to disrupt our stable political system through illegal means.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Posted by: Bang!
btw:
in tennessee it’s now legal to bring loaded guns into bars…. nothing like having folks getting drunk with guns….
why isn’t it legal to bring loaded weapons into courtrooms in Tenn…or the state house…..
one reason I will be bypassing Tennessee

Posted by: iota | September 8, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

-btw:
in tennessee it’s now legal to bring loaded guns into bars…. nothing like having folks getting drunk with guns….
why isn’t it legal to bring loaded weapons into courtrooms in Tenn…or the state house…..
one reason I will be bypassing Tennessee-
I don’t live in TN. TN law is not my problem. And bypass TN all you want, that is your right. Exercise it.

Posted by: Bang! | September 8, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

-I kind of think we all lose when someone threatens to disrupt our stable political system through illegal means.-
Was a threat made?

Posted by: Bang! | September 8, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

In the years leading up to Oklahoma City…. Conservatives were talking the same way about Clinton. I was a Reagan supporter…. and thought I was a Republican.
But when I saw where that extreme conservative identities leads… I realized that in many cases it is childish, selfish, and ultimately hostile to our Constitutional Republic.
Sudden catastrophic change is a fantasy for cowards who lack the nerve to square off, face-to-face, with rational arguments. It’s just like the city kid who buys a gun…. he knows he can’t get a job, he knows he can’t read, he knows that he has no future… so he buys a gun, stuffs it in his pants, and walks around feeling a little bit bigger because he can scare the people in his neighborhood.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

“Have ever watched Glenn Beck’s show or listened on the radio? Can you disupute anything he has said as non-factual?”
Here are a couple more to add to the list.
“Why do we have automatic citizenship upon birth? We’re the only country in the world that has it.” – Glenn Beck
“I mean, we’ve got czars now – Czars like John Holdren, who has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.” – Glenn Beck

Posted by: WWW | September 8, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Showing up to a townhall meeting with a gun is deliberately provocative.
I grew up around guns… in a bad neighborhood… and I guarantee you that guns always change the tenor of a conversation. I’ve been in a lot of situations where people pulled guns out… and it never results in an equal exchange. Whoever has the gun gets to talk louder, and whoever doesn’t have a gun has to tread lightly.
Why? A gun is a weapon designed for killing people. Bringing one to a conversation is a threatening gesture, regardless of whether or not it is legal.
It’s also legal to get drunk and smoke in bed…. but it’s just a bad idea. And even if it is your “freedom,” it doesn’t mean it is a good thing to do.

Posted by: gobot | September 8, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

“So God bless you for preaching sanity to your own team. I hope they listen to you.”
I can only speak for myself, but I do agree that ideology and politics often trumps the will/well-being of the electorate.
Glenn Beck is a bit much for me and I do not watch/listn to him on a regular basis. But I will offer that I do appreciate that he fills a void that the “mainstream” media used to fill: objective and investigative journalism. Note the deafening silence regarding Van Jones. ABC (with exception of Jake Tapper), NBC, MSNBC had little/no coverage. CBS was only marginally better. The NYT and WaPo didn’t do much better. Given that (in general) the MSM has given the Obama administration a pass on anything that could be perceived as a negative (and many members of media unapologetically and openly cheerleading for Obama), it is no surprise that Beck’s popularity has increased substantially in the past 12 months.

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

The kids ask tougher questions than the press. How pitiful is that?
But then again–the media is in love.

Posted by: bailey | September 8, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

from the AP:
“During his meeting inside, one young person asked why the country doesn’t have universal health insurance.”
You KNEW Obama was going to get this in. Is there anyone dumb enough to think this was something other than a plant??
THIS is why Obama is not to be trusted.
Not with ANYTHING.

Posted by: drjohn | September 8, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Students
Did you know the coolest president ever is going to fine you if you don’t buy health care as soon as you become an adult?
You don’t get a choice.
Obama is Big Brother.
And Big Brother knows what is best for everyone.

Posted by: jack | September 8, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

tjp612 wrote: “Are these nonfactual?”
According to Politifact, not only are they nonfactual, they are untruths of the “Pants on Fire” variety.

Posted by: WWW | September 8, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

“During his meeting inside, one young person asked why the country doesn’t have universal health insurance.”
____________________________________
It’s a good question. Every other western industrialized country has universal coverage.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

“According to Politifact, not only are they nonfactual, they are untruths of the “Pants on Fire” variety.”
Well, if it is “pants on fire” then it must be egregious…and must be true! /sarc.
Between radio and TV, Beck is on the air 20 hours a week. He has been on the air approx. 35 weeks this year for a total of 700 hours. And this is all you have?
With regards to your Holdren comments, Beck did not miss the mark by much:
“Holdren co-authored the textbook Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment; they discussed the possible role of a wide variety of solutions to overpopulation, from voluntary family planning to enforced population controls,including forced sterilization for women after they gave birth to a designated number of children, and recommended “the use of milder methods of influencing family size preferences” such as access to birth control and abortion.”

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Which of these two statements is more factual?
“This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people…” – Beck, 30 seconds into his July 27th appearance on Fox and Friends
“I’m not saying that he doesn’t like white people…” – Beck, 2 minutes into his July 27th appearance on Fox and Friends
And these two?
“What does it mean for the rest of the world if we lose our position as the innovator, as having the best healthcare in the world?” – Beck, Fox News channel, 2009
“We seem to be… a society or a system now in healthcare that is just trying to shove the patients out that door as fast as they can. Is that any way to run a system?” – Beck, CNN Headline News, 2008

Posted by: WWW | September 8, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

“I mean, we’ve got czars now – Czars like John Holdren, who has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.” – Glenn Beck”
____________________________________
Well that would be a lie, wouldn’t it.
Holdren co-authored a texbook in which all of the possible scenerios were outlined.
He did not ‘propose’ forcing abortions, nor did he ‘propose’ putting sterilants in the drinking water.
And he certainly didn’t recommend or support either of those as Beck choses to imply.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

“With regards to your Holdren comments, Beck did not miss the mark by much…”
The Politifact article goes into the details of why they rate it a “Pants on Fire” untruth. If they felt Beck “didn’t miss the mark by much,” they would have rated it Mostly True.
Politifact’s rankings, by the way, include:
True
Mostly True
Half True
Barely True
False
Pants on Fire <– Beck’s Ranking

Posted by: WWW | September 8, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

“Between radio and TV, Beck is on the air 20 hours a week. He has been on the air approx. 35 weeks this year for a total of 700 hours.”
How dare Beck be asked for some consistency rather than just spewing whatever will grab ratings.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

-How dare Beck be asked for some consistency rather than just spewing whatever will grab ratings.-
Then ignore him.

Posted by: KKF | September 8, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Obama could have added these tips to the school kids:
Don`t let anybody know what your grades were in college, your SAT scores, LSAT (Law School Admittance Test) scores, or how you financed your way through Harvard.
Plus write up an autobiography or two about yourself and make stuff up or leave stuff out.

Posted by: Pauline Shorter | September 8, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

-It’s a good question. Every other western industrialized country has universal coverage.-
Double digit Euros in debt in France.

Posted by: Francois | September 8, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

Pauline, what were McCain’s grades and gpa at Annapolis?
What were Palin’s grades and gpa at the University of Hawaii, Hawaii Pacific College, North Idaho College, University of Idaho, and Matanuska Susitna Community College?

Posted by: Jess Askin | September 8, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

“what were McCain’s grades and gpa at Annapolis?”
McCain (admittedly) graduated near bottom of his class. But McCain (for better or worse) has had a very public life for 30+ years.
Palin was not at top of ticket. And (as the Libs like to stress) her appeal was not her intellectualism, her appeal was her ability to speak clearly to issues in a way that resonated with a fairly significant portion of the electorate. She was perceived as someone who is honest and middle-class. (Bring on the Palin critics, I know you are out there and jump at any red meat thrown out)
Obama on the other hand, was perceived as the “intellectual” and a man of “judgment” who had very little in the way of a public record. Given this platform, it would have helped Obama’s cause to release his transcripts to illustrate how brilliant he is. That he has not released this information indicates (a.) his grades would not indicate that he is as brilliant as perceived, (b.) he took some classes or had some associations that would not be viewed favorably today, or (c.) both (a.) and (b.)

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

“Double digit Euros in debt in France.”
___________________________________
Expense didn’t stop the Bush administration from carrying out their neo-con wet dream of an attack on Iraq. Tens of thousands dead, tens of thousands more maimed . . . many Americans.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

But what were their gpa/grades?
(Obama graduated magna cum laude so his grades at Harvard must have been pretty darned good.)

Posted by: Jess Askin | September 8, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Obama should have also advised that just like what you write in facebook and myspace can bite you, so too can the company that you keep:
Bill Ayers, Former terrorist Berrnardine Dohrn, Former terrorist
Reverend Wright,liberation theology
Van Jones, racist
Michelle Obama,liberation theology

Posted by: Walsh | September 8, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Expense didn’t stop the Bush administration from carrying out their neo-con wet dream of an attack on Iraq. Tens of thousands dead, tens of thousands more maimed . . . many Americans.
And more die in Barry’s War in Afghanistan.. Money well spent!

Posted by: Wasteed | September 8, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

“Expense didn’t stop the Bush administration from carrying out their neo-con wet dream of an attack on Iraq. Tens of thousands dead, tens of thousands more maimed . . . many Americans.”
Don’t all the Reps. and Senators (Dems and Repubs) also have blood on their hands? Are they not also complicit? Congress authorized the war and has funded it annually ever since (including since Dems took over Congress in 2006).
Why no mention of Afghanistan, Obama’s “good war”?

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

“(Obama graduated magna cum laude so his grades at Harvard must have been pretty darned good.)”
He also graduated “sans” honors with a degree in Political Science from Colombia which would indicate his GPA was less than 3.3….A 3.3 GPA in engineering from a quality school is respectable…a 3.3 GPA in political science does not get my attention.

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

President Obama campaigned on a renewed effort in Afghanistan.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

“President Obama campaigned on a renewed effort in Afghanistan.”
So you support war in Afghanistan?

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

“President Obama campaigned on a renewed effort in Afghanistan.”
Sounds like an old Bush policy…Seem to have lots of those still around.

Posted by: Barry's War | September 8, 2009, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

“President Obama campaigned on a renewed effort in Afghanistan.”
Sounds like an old Bush policy…Seem to have lots of those still around.
__________________________________
Not really, Bush basically left Afghanistan on the back burner to fulfil his neo-con wet dream of attacking Iraq.
Tens of thousands of deaths and billions of dollars later we are still paying for that.

Posted by: julieterra | September 8, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

-Not really, Bush basically left Afghanistan on the back burner to fulfil his neo-con wet dream of attacking Iraq.
Tens of thousands of deaths and billions of dollars later we are still paying for that-
We can leave anytime. What’s the wait? And supported by Democrats with funding. US troops still in Iraq (4 more dead in a bombing) Is Bush still POTUS? You’re exactly the kind of voter neocons love. Jeeze, you’re easy.

Posted by: Barry's War | September 8, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

-Sounds like an old Bush policy…Seem to have lots of those still around.-
And like I always say, Goldman is pleased…julieterra, we need your vote again in 2012! Thanks in advance!

Posted by: Money Bags | September 8, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Insight into Liberal thinking:
- If Barry supports war in Afghanistan, I’m all for it, it’s “the good war”
- If Barry opposes war in Iraq, it is bad…the “neo-cons” are behind it and looking to personal gain and booty in the form of oil
In the mind of a liberal, ideology trumps country everytime.

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

“Tens of thousands of deaths and billions of dollars later we are still paying for that.”
Yeah, well, we just started paying for the so-called trillion dollar “stimulus” package ($787 billion + interest = $1 trillion) that (a.) we can’t afford, and (b.) is a re-distributionist’s wet dream (to paraphrase an earlier post of yours). This “stimulus” is FAR MORE COSTLY than the war in Iraq…At least with war in Iraq we’ll have disposal of Saddam Hussein and free, democratic elections to show for it…the “stimulus”, well, not so much!

Posted by: tjp612 | September 8, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Remember kids, work hard but don’t plagiarize like me, your President and like Mr. Biden, your Vice-President. Plagiarism, no matter how small, is a very serious offence. You can be kicked out of school for it.

Posted by: young_voter | September 8, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

We’re doing the best we can to recover from where Bush left the country.
Yay for more war! And debt…

Posted by: Barry's War | September 8, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

-We’re doing the best we can to recover from where Bush left the country.-
How much extra money did you send in this April? And could you send a bit more? We’ll need it! I’ve got my TurboTax software working on it now!

Posted by: Tim G. | September 8, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

If you ignore Obama’s advice and crank up the crazy, you can always get a job as a Czar in the Obama White House.
They won’t even Google you.

Posted by: Vetting Czar | September 8, 2009, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

I’m sorry young_voter,but plagerism works-ask Neil Kinnock,ask Bill Ayers,ask Ted Sorenson.Who is Franz Falon? Also, learn to make up fables about your childhood so people think that prep school is for the poor.

Posted by: Nephron | September 8, 2009, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

A cheesy little mustache seems to appear on the cheesy Pres every few weeks and it’s back on this video

Posted by: dd | September 8, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Look, the most of us do not have a problem with the President addressing our kids, but we do have a problem when he basically goes behind our backs and tries to sneak in unannounced. Then he has a “corriculum” that the teachers are supposed to give after the speech. We did not hear about this until the last minute, and we hear about this mainly from the internet. If he would have come out a couple of weeks ago and told us parents that he would like to address our kids about these certain issues, there would not have been a problem.
Now, once and for all, as for Bush and the Iraq War, right before we went into Iraq, ALL of the major Democrat leaders were cheering Bush on, they wanted us to go after Sadam and said he had WMDs. They saw the SAME intellegence that Bush saw. As a matter of FACT – Bill Clinton and ALGORE both advocated attacking Sadam back in 1998, saying that he was a menace to the world and needed to go. No, I did not support going, but I do support our troops. We have definitely been over there long enough, if the Iraqies or the Afgans can not get their act together by now, they never will. It’s time to bring our troops home. But bottom line, you Democrats quit your blaming Bush when you are just as much to blame.

Posted by: TJRedneck | September 8, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Insight into Liberal thinking:
- If Barry supports war in Afghanistan, I’m all for it, it’s “the good war”
- If Barry opposes war in Iraq, it is bad…the “neo-cons” are behind it and looking to personal gain and booty in the form of oil
In the mind of a liberal, ideology trumps country everytime.
Posted by: tjp612 | Sep 8, 2009 5:22:19 PM
***
What a bunch of baloney. I can’t speak for other Democrats, or liberals who may oppose war in general, but I opposed the Iraq War because the preponderance of evidence and intelligence countered the faulty intelligence the Bush admin used to start a pre-emptive war. The catastrophic events of 9/11 were exploited to initiate the Wolfowitz doctrine, more or less, and condone torture. I do not oppose all war. In a dream world, I would. But we don’t live in a dream world. I’ve supported the war in Afghanistan from the beginning because there are those who wish to destroy us and I’m not a starry-eyed peacenik.I was irritated when we took the eye off the ball, and I admit I am worried that we won’t succeed there given the difficulties but I support our efforts and the troops, and now that we’ve been in Iraq this long, I do think we need to be prudent in terms of how we leave there as well.
I find it irritating that someone wouldn’t see the difference between how we got into the two wars, and would be dismissive of those who do.
As for this: Don’t all the Reps. and Senators (Dems and Repubs) also have blood on their hands? Are they not also complicit? Congress authorized the war and has funded it annually ever since (including since Dems took over Congress in 2006).
Yes. Duh.

Posted by: Alyson | September 8, 2009, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Now, once and for all, as for Bush and the Iraq War, right before we went into Iraq, ALL of the major Democrat leaders
**
Depending on how you’re defining leaders, ALL really could be a big stretch. Kennedy? Pelosi? Leahy? Durbin?

Posted by: Alyson | September 8, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

This message is offered by the Republican National Committee to provide balance to the president’s message to America’s children.
“Kids, studying is hard work. Don’t do it. Don’t study, and do not stay in school! If you picked your parents well, your daddy will get you into college and set you up in business with your buddies. If you were born poor or middle class, well it sucks to be you!
In America, it may be true that even a man who was born into a family that broke up and was given a funny name can stay in school, study hard, work hard and run for president! And even get more votes than the other guy!
But it can’t happen to you. We’re working hard to ensure that, so don’t bother trying, OK?
Remember, kids, whether you’re in the classroom or just walking around wearing a suit if something really bad happens, you should freeze for six or seven minutes. Sooner or later, another man in a suit will come along to tell you what to do.
You already know school is hard work. And I’m here to tell you it does not matter. Don’t study! Don’t stay in school!
Hope sucks. Give up!”

Posted by: CHUCK | September 8, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

An amazing cosmic event was witnessed by the people living on planet earth Tuesday.
The fortune tellers, tea-party readers, ‘sayers of the sooth’, and ‘chicken littles’ proclaiming the sky is falling… all were shocked into stunned silence when it was determined that no ills befell America or the earth after president Obama’s speech to the school children.
In a miraculous display of non-covertness, the president strode boldly in front of the cameras and spoke.
However, there were some reports of fringe elements and republicans who began to spontaneously recant their previous paranoid rants.
When questioned, Republicans could only answer that ‘Orly Taitz has a new birth certificate from Mombassa’.

Posted by: TJ | September 9, 2009, 12:19 am 12:19 am

He who hath ear let him hear what the Presido advises.

Posted by: Austin Chuks | September 9, 2009, 1:58 am 1:58 am

The furor over the Presidents attempts to indoctrinate students with socialists propoganda boiled over today after the President’s speech was aired.
In Sacramento , conservatives , outraged by the speech, set fire to a Public Light Rail railcar yelling “Death to public transportation!”
In Ft. Wayne, Indiana, young Republican teepeed a public park. “Socialism is wrong”, said one young person as he went at the drinking fountain with a hammer.
In Dallas, Texas, angry patrons burnt books at the public library and spray painted the words “public libraries are evil”
Police and firefighters In Boise, Idaho, were pelted with eggs by an enraged mob who worried that public servants were putting private guards and “for profit” firemen at a disadvantage.
And at Cape Canaveral Florida, unhappy residents picketed a NASA office with signs saying
“Get government out of Space” and “bring back our flag from the moon”

Posted by: Norris Hall | September 9, 2009, 3:34 am 3:34 am

Everytime I enter blogsites, I come away with the impression that the President of the United States in being portrayed as an enemy to the People rather than what he is – the President of the United State and the Leader of the Free-world.
A lot of invectives are poured on him because he belongs to an opposing party. I am not an American and I don’t reside in America, though I visit with my Sibblings in Baltomore and Dover one month in a year. It really breaks my heart when I read what Americans write about their President.
I wonder what Americans will say if I follow their lead and pour invectives on the Person of the President of the United States.
There is an adage in Africa which says “If you offer your father for sale with a price tag of a Nickle, no one will negotiate to buy him for a Dollar.
You are offering your President to the world for a Nickle, how dio you want the world to respect him when he doesn’t get respect at home?
I watch Limbaugh, Hannity and Glenn Beck and I keep wondering what People can do because of the First Amendment.
You are being watched and read all over the world. The comments you make about your president hurts you as Americans.
He is your President for God sakes. If you find it difficult to respect him as a person, why not respect the office he occupies and the over 400million People he represents.
America has been polarized by politicians for political gains and the losers in this war of attrition are the Citizens who get fed with sensationalzed information and who, out of laziness to research or outright propensity for gullibility, swallows all they hear or read hook, line and sinker.
It is so sad!

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | September 9, 2009, 5:59 am 5:59 am

Hey Kids, Study hard. Do your best. Get a good education. Then go out and get a high paying job so the democrats can tax you into oblivion.

Posted by: MrRadio915 | September 9, 2009, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Interesting to hear about all this “respect” stuff. I reckon respect is what one earns not demands!
Obama needs to remember something – he may have been bought the Presidency but so far he has not convinced that he is actually a good President, since his leadership is sadly missing, in fact I often wonder if he is a leader or a follower! Again he must remember that “one’s reputation is only as good as one’s last achievement” and has to be re-instated continually ( ask Tiger Woods). Obama needs to stop hoping and start doing because his actions and not his rhetoric are going to be decisive – being popular won’t cut it, unless his decisions and actions are sound!

Posted by: pete | September 9, 2009, 9:30 am 9:30 am

@ Posted by: Dare Nigeria | Sep 9, 2009 5:59:20 AM
With all due respect, would you expect Venezuelans who oppose Hugo Chavez to “respect” his Presidency? Would you expect those who supported Zelaya’s ouster to “respect” his Presidency? How about Zimbabweans who have suffered under Mugabe? Should they also respect his office?
We do respect the office, but not the current holder of the title. Unfortunately (for many of us), Obama has not earned our respect (a respect that is earned, not bequeathed to him as would be a member of royalty).

Posted by: tjp612 | September 9, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Posted by: tjp612 | Sep 9, 2009 10:46:21 AM
Isn’t it so unfortunate that you are comparing President Obama to Chavez, Zelaya and Mugabe. It actual show how much you hold the office of your President in disdain.
President Obama presides over 400million People and there is no way his policies would satisfy the whole of the population.
Democracy is majority rules and minority have their say.
But it shows good naturedness for us to disagree without being disagreable.
Any policy initiative by Government is for the betterment of the society.
The health care reform was one of the pivotal campaign promises the then Senator Obama made before he was elected as POTUS in November 2008.
It was based on this policy initiative among others, that got him into the White House in the first place.
Will he now turn his back on those that elected him because the Right Wingers are making a lot of cacophonous noise on blogsites and Talk-show radio?.
I don’t expect him to pander to the whims of everybody’s opinion. I expect him to do what is right for the generality of the People. Those voiceless majority that don’t have have popular blogsites like drudgereport or popular Talk-show Television and Radio programmes like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
Those voiceless People that are dying because they could not access healthcare because the cost is exhorbitant. Those voiceless People that look up to the Government to know that healthcare for all Citizens is a right and not a privilege.
I feel sorry when I see the caliber of people protesting at Town hall meetings. These are people that are groaning under the high cost of healthcare and who will benefit most from having a Public option or having the cost of private healthcare reduced because of choice the public option would afford them.
If the rich will pay more in taxes to benefit the not so rich, so what!

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | September 9, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am

“Isn’t it so unfortunate that you are comparing President Obama to Chavez, Zelaya and Mugabe.”
You mis-read my post, I did not compare Obama to any of these dictators; I compared those of us who do not respect Obama (not the office, the man) to those who do not respect the office of the president in the dictatorships in which they live.
(BTW – Obama does not preside over 400 million people)
“Will he now turn his back on those that elected him because the Right Wingers are making a lot of cacophonous noise on blogsites and Talk-show radio?.”
Well, my friend, you may not be aware, but “Right Wingers” are not holding up ObamaCare, Democrats in Congress are to blame. Obama has super-majorities in each House. Dems all vote on it, ObamaCare passes.
“Those voiceless People that are dying because they could not access healthcare because the cost is exhorbitant.”
This is a falsehood (unless you know something I don’t).
“Those voiceless People that look up to the Government to know that healthcare for all Citizens is a right and not a privilege.”
Healthcare is NOT a right, it is a RESPONSIBILITY.
Sorry, Dare. You are way off the mark.
BTW – Those “angry” people protesting at Town Halls are a display of democracy in action.
I will assume you reside in Nigeria given you state you are not a resident of the U.S. When your (Nigerian) government cleans up its political corruption and rampant cronyism, please come back and enlighten us as to how we may improve our government in the U.S. Thank you.

Posted by: tjp612 | September 9, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

BTW definition of Preside: 2 to occupy the place of authority : act as president, chairman, or moderator b : to occupy a position similar to that of a president or chairman
It doesn’t say “evil dictator” in that definition does it.
Obama has more empathy and heart than all of the recent Presidents combined. He’s more Christian than any of the so called right-wing christian fanatics. So back off and let him help the meek. And the next time you drive on a highway, thank the government and shut up about socialism already. We live in a soceity that helps others, if you don’t like that then leave the country.

Posted by: Dan | September 9, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

BTW definition of Preside: 2 to occupy the place of authority : act as president, chairman, or moderator b : to occupy a position similar to that of a president or chairman
It doesn’t say “evil dictator” in that definition does it.
Obama has more empathy and heart than all of the recent Presidents combined. He’s more Christian than any of the so called right-wing christian fanatics. So back off and let him help the meek. And the next time you drive on a highway, thank the government and shut up about socialism already. We live in a soceity that helps others, if you don’t like that then leave the country.

Posted by: Dan | September 9, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Speaking of the wackos Obama has appointed as Czars, how about John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar?
– The College Politico finds something a little more recent in this interview in 2007, conducted in the virtual-reality environment of Second Life, in which Holdren discusses his views on science and economics:
HOLDREN: There has been a strain of what many people call “US exceptionalism” in the United States, the notion that the United States is so big, so important, so powerful, so technologically advanced that it can and should do what it wants. I think this strain is misguided.
Q: Will Americans need to reduce their living standards? Is that politically viable, or will technology [unintelligible] do it?
H: I think ultimately that the rate of growth of material consumption is going to have to come down, and there’s going to have to be a DEGREE OF REDISTRIBUTION of how much we consume, in terms of energy and material resources, in order to leave room for people who are poor to become more prosperous.—
Consider that a foreshadowing of Barack Obama’s Joe the Plumber moment.

Posted by: Redistribution Czar | September 9, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

@ Dan -
“Obama has more empathy and heart than all of the recent Presidents combined. He’s more Christian than any of the so called right-wing christian fanatics.”
Hmm…Interesting perspective. So a man that worshiped at a church led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright for 20 years and has yet to select a church in DC to attend is “more Christian any of the so called right-wing Christian fanatics” (?). Facinating.
Personally, I could care less if Obama attends church, but I find your claims extremely disingenuous.
p.s. Don’t be surprised if Holdren pops up on Glenn Beck’s show. If the MSM won’t vet Obama and his administration I’m glad Beck is filling the void of conducting investigative journalism.

Posted by: tjp612 | September 9, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

My favorite quote about Glenn Beck:
“Finally, a guy who says what people who aren’t thinking are thinking.” – Jon Stewart

Posted by: WWW | September 9, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

T.J. Redneck: The president did not go behind anyone’s back..the board of education came to him and suggested he do a lesson plan to ask what the children can do for the president. This was the same question George Bush Sr. asked of the children. What is wrong with that? However, he did not do this and gave an excellent speech on responsibility and staying in school. What I am appalled at is the the President of the United States needs permission to speak and has to have his speech pre-judged. What is wrong with people? We let Limbaugh say that he is trying to recruit Naxi soldiers, no comments on that…we let Hannity on Fri. call him a socialist communist…no proof and no comments against that either and Beck is allowed to call him a racist and other venomus comments and no comments. There is something wrong with a country that cannot respect a president. He is the perfect person to talk to children about education as he came up the hard way and whatever he became…he earned…no one gave him anything it was strictly hard work. These anti-everything people who are attacking him at every turn should realize they are teaching their children racism because why else could they not listen to him. Children remember these things. In this world..we need to learn to get along with everyone. We need to respect everyone if we want respect ourselves. I am sadly disappointed in us as a country as I thought we had gotten beyond this nonesense. Don’t give me that bull that it is about education. He is the best educated person around.

Posted by: talmag | September 9, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

tjp612 wrote: “Don’t be surprised if Holdren pops up on Glenn Beck’s show. If the MSM won’t vet Obama and his administration I’m glad Beck is filling the void of conducting investigative journalism.”
You know full well Beck already claimed Holdren “proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.” Why on earth would Holdren want to appear on that lunatic’s show?

Posted by: WWW | September 9, 2009, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

I can’t believe people are going so far by calling him a dictator. First of all he was elected to be president, elected. Secondly he can’t gain that much power, it’s just not possible for such a great nation and documents such and the constitution and Declaration on Inepandants. People need to think about this nation as a whole. Also what does that have to do with this article?

Posted by: Tulsi | September 9, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

“There is something wrong with a country that cannot respect a president.”
Yes, agreed. This has been a problem for quite sometime, beginning with the Clinton administration, rising exponentially through the Bush (43) administration, and on through today. Much of this behavior is downright despicable (lowpoints were related to dreams of the assassination of Bush 43 by talk radio and even a movie). While not making any excuses for this type of behavior, it must also be said that respect is earned, not bequeathed upon a president.
Could it be possible that the reason the office of President (and politicians in general) receives much less respect than it used to is due to the people we have elected?

Posted by: tjp612 | September 10, 2009, 8:44 am 8:44 am

“I can’t believe people are going so far by calling him a dictator.”
Who called him a dictator? You may want to re-read posts before jumping to conclusions (though one could argue he does have some dictatorial personality and ideological traits, but that is another conversation for another day =)

Posted by: tjp612 | September 10, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am

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