By Kristina Wong

Sep 14, 2009 7:58pm

President Obama to Do “Full Ginsburg” on Sunday

President Obama will make the rounds on the Sunday shows in six days.

Not only will the president be interviewed on This Week with George Stephanopoulos, he will stop by CBS's Face the Nation, NBC's Meet the Press, CNN's State of the Nation, and…. Univision's Al Punto with Jorge Ramos.

Fox News Sunday did not make the cut.

Such a Sunday round-robin was called "The Full Ginsburg" in years past, named after Monica Lewinsky's attorney William Ginsburg, achieved the feat in February 1999. 

Fox News made that cut, while Univision did not.

- jpt

User Comments

I am so shocked he didnt have the courage to go on Fox.

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2009, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Lots of teaparty folks will be watching to see if anyone asks a question beyond “what flavor ice cream do you like?

Posted by: mograndpa | September 14, 2009, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

I wonder why Obama doesn’t have his own newscast or perhaps a soap opera?

Posted by: david | September 14, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Fox News Sunday did not make the cut.
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I never again want to hear him complain about Fox not carrying his prime time speeches on all three of their networks.

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

If he’s not going on Fox, then Obama’s preaching to the choir. That’s something that the man hasn’t quite figured out. If he wants to splash around in the network’s isolation tanks on his vision quest, I guess that’s his business. But the people he needs to win over are the ones who watch Fox, whether he likes it or not.

Posted by: Chef Mojo | September 14, 2009, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

why doesn’t he spend that time with the people that really matter: the senate. my god, my Sunday is ruined.

Posted by: travis | September 14, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

The pompous ego never stops. The pie hole never shuts. He is so low class and unsophisticated it’s nauseating.

Posted by: BK | September 14, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

“Such a Sunday round-robin was called “The Full Ginsburg” in years past, named after Monica Lewinsky’s attorney William Ginsburg, achieved the feat in February 1999.”
So THAT’S why he had lunch with Bubba. They needed to extrapolate the data between lying to the public the first 232 times about HC and hitting the “talk show” circuit to see if it was worth his time explaining the same old talking points over and over and over and…

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

“Senate Votes to Cut Off ACORN Housing Funding”
Priceless.
Be sure to contact your Senators and thank them for doing the right thing (unless it is one of the 7 who voted against).

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Maybe after the 117th time, he can finally convince his sheeple that he is their leader, and they should just follow.

Posted by: sybilll | September 14, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

More cowbell. That oughta do it.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 14, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Boy Jake,
You have quite the following. These comments are better suited to Free Republic than a news site

Posted by: Kit | September 14, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Not surprising Univision is included. It is very strong in the younger demographics. Univision has been regularly beating the four major networks in some prime-time slots and during newscasts.

Posted by: Flash Override | September 14, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Heads up for the Non-watchers.
Watching Fox (Hannity). More ACORN video to be released tomorrow. This one is supposed to be “devastating.”
Obama is just as quiet on this as he was with the Van Jones story.
So is the MSM. Sad.

Posted by: ceeLeelee | September 14, 2009, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Phew! Glad to hear he’s not doing the “full Monty,” although that would make for quite a drudge report lead photo…and Play Girl, for that matter…
but i digress.
Fox will be busy covering the continuing ACORN scandal, a story which will break news in the next three or so days…

Posted by: kelli | September 14, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

“I never again want to hear him complain about Fox not carrying his prime time speeches on all three of their networks.”
Agreed. Our Boy King has the temerity of a petulant child.
“But the people he needs to win over are the ones who watch Fox, whether he likes it or not.”
BINGO!

Posted by: tjp612 | September 14, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Count on it: those Univision viewers are gonna turn out big-time in the 2010 off-year election. Dude!

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 14, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

Wow! The President will be on TV?! That’s amazing Jake. Meanwhile a single young man and woman are toppling ACORN with real investigative journalism! But hey, this is waaaaay more important that a federally funded organization the President has had ties to is crumbling on account of their support of child sex slavery and tax evasion for pimps!
Hooray for the MSM!

Posted by: BH | September 14, 2009, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

So I see headline “‘You Lie’ Congressman: No Double Apology” under ABC “Political News” banner.
But still nothing on the Senate voting 83-7 to deny housing and community grant funding to ACORN.
When is ABC and other MSM going to cover this?
……

Posted by: tjp612 | September 14, 2009, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Obama can hang out with Bill Ayers a terrorist but cant hang out with Fox news for awhile. He knows that Fox will CALL HIM OUT. He cant handle the truth.This man is weak.

Posted by: kk | September 14, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Time for Jake Tapper to join FOX so that someone will actually watch him on TV!!!

Posted by: silverbelle1008 | September 14, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Pres. Obama should of devoted Sunday to taking calls on C-spans Washington Journal and answering to the Public he asked to hold his feet to the fire. Imagine a 3hr free-for-all that would make Rep. “You Lie” Wilson look like a gentleman instead of the Neocon he is.

Posted by: Jim Dandy | September 14, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Of course he’s not on Fox – you never once saw Bush Jr on MSNBC did you? Meanwhile, Fox gave Bush Jr friendly interviews full of softballs and even a glowing biography. Actually, did Bush interview on ANY station other than ABC as President? He seemed flat out scared of even news conferences.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

There is an old Hollywood joke that certain celebs who crave attention and want to be interviewed and have their photos taken will “show up at the opening of an envelope”. This constant media exposure for the president is starting to feel that way. I used to think that Axelrod was a communications genius but I now think the opposite. He is not serving Obama or Obama’s agenda well with the public by trotting him out so much. (I suppose the network anchors are very flattered, though.)

Posted by: Mohican | September 14, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

He needs to be in church Sunday.

Posted by: kk | September 14, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Of course the Administration’s silence on ACORN would be a good subject of discussion for the President this weekend -given his prior ties. But, of course, he’ll probably be asked nothing about why the President is mute on this issue because, of course, this story is poised to become a major black eye for the President.

Posted by: BH | September 14, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

“Obama can hang out with Bill Ayers a terrorist but cant hang out with Fox news for awhile.”
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Right wingers are still stuck in the last century. Try to catch up; your insults and smears are tired, old and worthless.

Posted by: bonnytruth | September 14, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Oh please no, not another media rounds by Obama geez time to make this stop am getting sick of all this coverage geez.

Posted by: SJ | September 14, 2009, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

MANY OF US EMOTE, BUT, MOST OF US WHEN FACED WITH REALITY, IE, WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN’T WORK – WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. OBAMA AND ASSOCIATES, CANNOT DO THAT AND WILL GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP, TAKING THE REST OF US WITH THEM. THIS IS WHAT THE MARCH IN DC WAS ALL ABOUT!!
EXAMPLE? MEGA BUCKS STIMULUS PACKAGE – A COMPLETE WASTE!! NO INCENTIVES TO BUSINESS. BUSINESS, ONLY ENTITY WHICH CAN CREATE ECONOMIC GROWTH!! AND OBAMA IGNORES IT. MAJOR CORPORATE TAX CUT AND ELIMINATION OF THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX WOULD HAVE, BY ITSELF, JUMP STARTED THIS ECONOMY WITH “NO” STIMULUS PACKAGE NEEDED!!! THESE HACKS RUNNING THIS GOV – ARE REALLY NOT FIT, NOR EXPERIMENCED!!!!

Posted by: Temagami | September 14, 2009, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Hey, this is a terrific idea.
Because if there’s anything we have a shortage of is media exposure of President Obama.
I hate it when he hides under a bushel like he has been the last week.

Posted by: PD | September 14, 2009, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm

See?
Didn’t I just predict this yesterday?
Soon Obama will be on TV every day for a couple of hours.
Never mind the full Ginsburg- we have the full Obama.

Posted by: drjohn | September 14, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

“course he’s not on Fox – you never once saw Bush Jr on MSNBC did you?”
Of course not–hardly anyone watches MSNBC. Fox outtdraws them about three to one. We never saw Bush on the Foood Channel either, and for the same reason: it’s not a place for serious discourse on matters of public policy, and thus is not watched by people interested in such discourse.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 14, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

“MEGA BUCKS STIMULUS PACKAGE – A COMPLETE WASTE!! NO INCENTIVES TO BUSINESS.”
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Wrong. Try reading the Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

Posted by: bonnytruth | September 14, 2009, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

bonneytruth – the last century was a heck of a lot better than now. Crime at 20 percent that of current stats. People controlled their paychecks. Kids learned a heck of a lot more in school…… YOU WOULD THINK WE WOULD LEARN FROM OUT PAST SUCCESSES!!!!

Posted by: Temagami | September 14, 2009, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

I think that Mr. BHO does all these shows so that he can ask his folks to record them. He then plays it over and over again for his satisfaction and every now and then allow his silly smile to creep across his face. And then he stands before the mirror straight and tall, and asks, “Mirror, mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the most ______ of all” (feel free to fill up with what you think is the most appropriate in your view)

Posted by: O-TV | September 14, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

I think he needs to give his friends at ACORN another pep talk.
I saw him on tape telling ACORN he would consult with them after he became president.
Is he still planning on giving ACORN a possible $8 billion from the stimulus?

Posted by: max | September 14, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

“Of course not–hardly anyone watches MSNBC. Fox outtdraws them about three to one.”
Fascist Hyena | Sep 14, 2009 10:07:44 PM
Did we ever see Bush give one on one interviews on any station other than Fox, ever?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

No time for Van Jones
No time for ACORN
Obama, Obama, Obama
24/7/365/in omne tempus

Posted by: drjohn | September 14, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

course he’s not on Fox – you never once saw Bush Jr on MSNBC did you?
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NBC news interviewed Bush, and it re-airs it’s Sunday morning program on MSNBC and/or CNBC.

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm

‘Did we ever see Bush give one on one interviews on any station other than Fox, ever?”
Unlikely you would have, since you only watch FOX. :-)

Posted by: PD | September 14, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

A very wise person on cable said the mainstream media did not deserve that title anymore since they only represent one side.
So I will no longer refer to them as MSM.
I think I’ll call them the LSM.
The Left Stream Media.
They no longer represent the people but just those who want Obama to succeed.
I want the truth even if I don’t agree with it.
I want both sides. Left and right.

Posted by: millie | September 14, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Did we ever see Bush give one on one interviews on any station other than Fox, ever?
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I don’t know what you say, but yes, Bush gave one on one interviews to networks other than Fox.
Now…why are we talking about Bush?

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

what you **saw**

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Please please put Obama out there every single day.
And put Pelosi, Reid, and Michelle out there too.
Let them keep talking.

Posted by: max | September 14, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

“Senate Votes to Cut Off ACORN Housing Funding”
Priceless.
Be sure to contact your Senators and thank them for doing the right thing (unless it is one of the 7 who voted against).
Posted by: D’Oh! | Sep 14, 2009 8:41:27 PM
Voted against:
Burris (D-IL)
Casey (D-PA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Leahy (D-VT)
Sanders (I-VT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
9 not voting:
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Coburn (R-OK)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hutchison (R-TX)
McCain (R-AZ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Looks like I’ve got some work to do. One of MY Senators is listed.
McCain and Graham were at a town hall event in S.C. at 9am. McCain does have an alliance with ACORN and they both were in the “shamnesty” mess up to their eyeballs. Maybe neither one were that interested in getting back in time for the 5pm vote.

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I am glad to see Obama out there and promote his program. It is about time we had a president who is not afraid of debate and discussion of his proposals, unlike the last president who told us just to accept them or else you are un-American.

Posted by: Hamilton | September 14, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Did it ever occur to ABC and others why their cable rating are dropping like a stone and FOX is being watched all the time?
They are losing the war with this Obama overkill pretty soon their advertisers are going to sit up and take notice, it wont pay to run ads on their networks anymore.

Posted by: SJ | September 14, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Jake you don’t belong on ABC.
Like John Stossel you need to be on Fox.
The MSM is holding you back.
You are way too fair and balanced to ever be a part of the MSM.
Free yourself!

Posted by: kyle | September 14, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Watching Fox (Hannity). More ACORN video to be released tomorrow. This one is supposed to be “devastating.”
Posted by: ceeLeelee | Sep 14, 2009 9:12:11 PM
Oh goodie. Will I need a party hat?

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Now…why are we talking about Bush?
MayBee | Sep 14, 2009 10:30:57 PM
To provide context to the personal insults being hurled at Obama. It is very common to use historical comparision for this purpose. Really, knowledge of history is generally a good thing.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Obama is up to what 270 speeches/remarks since January?
Does he ever get tired of being in front of the camera?

Posted by: larry | September 14, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

jhw: Really, knowledge of history is generally a good thing.
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Then I am happy I was able to tell you more about his interviewing history. Any more questions?

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

“unlike the last president who told us just to accept them or else you are un-American.”
You can, of course, provide a citation showing that Bush ever did this?

Posted by: PD | September 14, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

I think ABC did us a great service in having the health care forum, and allowing us to hear Obama’s answers to questions from a mixed audience.
I don’t think it’s right to see ABC be so dissed.

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Sarah Palin where are you?
We need you.
You took on your own party.
You took on the MSM.
You have guts, you are unafraid.
You put your trust in God not a corrupt government.
Where are you Sarah…

Posted by: glenn | September 14, 2009, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Isn’t it ironic that Obama, in all of his hundreds of speeches, is unable to look the people straight in the eye.
He looks from side to side because of his beloved teleprompters.
But is that the only reason he can’t look us in the eye?

Posted by: ollie | September 14, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Did we ever see Bush give one on one interviews on any station other than Fox, ever?
Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 14, 2009 10:25:12 PM
Somebody mentioned the other day that Bush’s final interview was with Charlie Gibson. Does that count?

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

It is about time we had a president who is not afraid of debate and discussion of his proposals
Posted by: Hamilton | Sep 14, 2009 10:36:36 PM
Riiiiiight. Which is why the GOP has not been invited to discuss HC with the president since April even though he says he welcomes all opinions and his door is always open. And why he packs his townhall meetings with “ringers” – and the rest of the time gives press conferences or one-on-ones with his fav liberal media outlets. And why he sends union goons to real town hall meetings. Yea, he’s a real debater, Hamilton.
(rolls eyes)

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

“Honesty won’t get you a home”.
That’s ACORN in a nutshell.
They are as responsible for the housing crisis as the corrupt politicians.
ACORN just asked for another grant.
Our money wasted.
Our kid’s money wasted.

Posted by: rick | September 14, 2009, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

“It will be interesting to watch them defend an organization that would help you get a house with government funding in order to run your prostitution “business” with underage teenagers from El Salvador.”
Oh yeah…while helping you avoid paying taxes on any income.
This story should be huge in the MSM. It has corruption at every level – sex, abuse of power, ties to the President, tax evasion, likely cover up at the highest level of the organization. But will anyone cover it, nope.
Not until the President is forced to mention it, and then it will be all about racism and “swift boating” while the video is never run and the MSM digs deep into the juvenile records of the two “kids” (they’re under 25, they’re kids to me) who made the MSM look foolish.

Posted by: BH | September 14, 2009, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

They are as responsible for the housing crisis as the corrupt politicians.
Posted by: rick | Sep 14, 2009 10:56:07 PM
Glad you mentioned that. Maybe Waters, Frank, Dodd and the rest realized ACORN was running out of sub prime housing applicants and all they could do was cover it up and hope for the best. Is there any kind of money trail between ACORN and the sub prime meltdown?

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

“Somebody mentioned the other day that Bush’s final interview was with Charlie Gibson. Does that count?”
D’Oh! | Sep 14, 2009 10:51:12 PM
Yup. So lets see if Obama ends up giving Fox another interview in his 8th year in office. (Another because he did go on Fox as a candidate of course.)

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Yup. So lets see if Obama ends up giving Fox another interview in his 8th year in office. (Another because he did go on Fox as a candidate of course.)
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Apparently you are so interested in Bush’s history that you didn’t bother to check to see if that was Bush’s only ABC interview as President. (hint: no)

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Dismiss us at your own risk White House.
Call us racist MSM, just for fighting for our freedom and our kid’s future.
But you will end up paying the price.

Posted by: mel | September 14, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Easy question – patented response. So what’s your point?

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

“Yup. So lets see if Obama ends up giving Fox another interview in his 8th year in office. (Another because he did go on Fox as a candidate of course.)”
Let’s see: You ask for evidence. Evidence is given. You pretend it doesn’t count.
Or were we not supposed to notice your tactic?

Posted by: PD | September 14, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

I don’t actually care how many interviews Obama gives, except that he hasn’t been offering new detailed information.
He’s actually back-tracked from his earlier discussions about expensive end of life care, and what it will take to reduce the cost of health care.
He’s lately been saying he will pay for this by cutting waste in the system (if he could, he’d be doing that), or he will have spending cuts if it gets too expensive.
Well, he already promised net spending cuts and the deficit is soaring. Another promise of the same thing he’s already promised and isn’t doing just isn’t enough.
So if he really sits down and gives some serious answers that don’t include lines about how the only thing we’ll have to sacrifice are treatments that don’t make us well…I’ll be happy.
I don’t expect it, because he’s not been doing that for MONTHS now.

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

Trust in media at a 20 year low.
Are you listening LeftWing Media?
Is Obama worth it?

Posted by: max | September 14, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

The U.S. has a lower infant survival rate and lower life spans than any other technologically advanced country. Both relate to access to affordable, quality health care. Every nation that is doing better than us has a national health plan. We need a public option now.

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | September 14, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

He’s lately been saying he will pay for this by cutting waste in the system (if he could, he’d be doing that), or he will have spending cuts if it gets too expensive.
MayBee | Sep 14, 2009 11:17:08 PM
Clearly you haven’t been following to closely or you would have caught the HUGE detail that he’s also been talking about taxing insurance and pharma companies.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Did we ever see Bush give one on one interviews on any station other than Fox, ever?
Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 14, 2009 10:25:12 PM
“Somebody mentioned the other day that Bush’s final interview was with Charlie Gibson. Does that count?”
D’Oh! | Sep 14, 2009 10:51:12 PM
Yup. So lets see if Obama ends up giving Fox another interview in his 8th year in office. (Another because he did go on Fox as a candidate of course.)
Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 14, 2009 11:06:06 PM
Move the goalposts much?

Posted by: D'Oh! | September 14, 2009, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

“What I’ve said is we could lower the itemized deductions that I can take on my income tax returns every year, so that instead of me getting 36 percent, 35 percent deductions, I’ll just get 28 percent, like everybody — like people who make less money than me.
If I’m writing a check to my local church, I don’t know why Uncle Sam should be giving me a bigger tax break than the person who makes less money than me, because that donation means just as much.”
Sheesh. Obama trotted this one out in February in one of his prime-time pressers. And he *still* doesn’t understand the basic fallacy of what he’s saying?

Posted by: PD | September 14, 2009, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

“The U.S. has a lower infant survival rate and lower life spans than any other technologically advanced country. ”
Not when the criteria of measurement are the same.

Posted by: PD | September 14, 2009, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

“We need a public option now.”
Although your premise concerning why we need one is rubbish, it doesn’t matter because you’re not going to get one. The Democrats will not give it to you, even though they have the votes.
Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 14, 2009, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

“The Democrats will not give it to you, even though they have the votes.
Make of that what you will.”
Fascist Hyena | Sep 14, 2009 11:25:41 PM
Another right wing lie. Or did you forget the Republicans stalled long enough that Senator Kennedy died? The Democrats do not have the votes to overcome the Republican’s unprecedented perpetual filibusters. Even if they all voted in mindless lockstep, there are only 59 Democrats in the Senate.
This is documented fact.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Clearly you haven’t been following to closely or you would have caught the HUGE detail that he’s also been talking about taxing insurance and pharma companies.
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Oh yeah. He’s going to tax insurance companies for offering the kind of plans the UAW negotiates for (and wins!).
Here is the “fine print” from his “plan”:
===Won’t add a dime to the deficit and is paid for upfront. The President’s plan will not add one dime to the deficit today or in the future and is paid for in a fiscally responsible way. It begins the process of reforming the health care system so that we can further curb health care cost growth over the long term, and invests in quality improvements, consumer protections, prevention, and premium assistance. The plan fully pays for this investment through health system savings and new revenue including a fee on insurance companies that sell very expensive plans.===

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

“The U.S. has a lower infant survival rate and lower life spans than any other technologically advanced country. ”
Not when the criteria of measurement are the same.”
PD | Sep 14, 2009 11:24:45 PM
The criteria for measurement of life span (life expectancy) are identical. There is no debate on that.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

“… so that instead of me getting 36 percent, 35 percent deductions, I’ll just get 28 percent, like everybody — like people who make less money than me.”
I’ll try to explain, although it’s clear from the start that you may well not get it.
It’s because it’s a “deduction,” I.e. an amount that is subtracted from your taxable income. After the subtraction has been performed, you pay tax at the appropriate rate on the remainder.
If your tax rate is 70%, you have saved 70% of the amount of the deduction. If your rate is 15% you have saved 15%. (Don’t be embarrassed. I honestly believe that Barack Obama doesn’t understand it either.)

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 14, 2009, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

If again no republicons vote for a bill to which they made amendments, then when the bill passes, those who voted for the bill should vote to remove the republicons amendments unless the amendments are very very meaningful!

Posted by: Patriot | September 14, 2009, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

“If your tax rate is 70%, you have saved 70% of the amount of the deduction. If your rate is 15% you have saved 15%. (Don’t be embarrassed. I honestly believe that Barack Obama doesn’t understand it either.)”
Fascist Hyena | Sep 14, 2009 11:39:48 PM
Uh, you’re just reinforcing that what the original poster said and Obama proposed were accurate. Not sure why you think you’re saying anything new or revolutionary (unless you’re advocating a return to the early Reagan era 70% ‘millionaires’ marginal tax bracket).
There are good arguments for reducing the deductions for giving to charities – like ACORN, the NRA, or Planned Parenthood. But it doesn’t matter, there are enough photogenic charities that this idea is now dead.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

ACORN please try to sue the young whistleblowers. I will contribute to their defense.
Please try to sue FOX so that your records will finally become public.
You have a president/lawyer in your corner.
Unless Obama after years and years of collaboration, he decides to throw you under the bus.

Posted by: jack | September 14, 2009, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Planned Parenthood.
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Wow.
Planned Parenthood is actually an excellent charity, and one that is excellent in the area of low-cost health cares.
Sure, they are most known as abortion providers.
But I have a group of even the most ardent Catholic women friends who attend Planned Parenthoood fundraisers. They provide much needed low cost gyn care in their urban clinics.
For women with limited resources, they are a fantastic health resource.

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

The Democrats do not have the votes to overcome the Republican’s unprecedented perpetual filibusters. Even if they all voted in mindless lockstep, there are only 59 Democrats in the Senate.
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Then I have an idea.
Table the health care debate for a while. Focus on other areas…like the war, or jobs, or what have you.
Why compromise on what Obama and the other Dems really want, if they can wait just a few months and get what they want?
After all, this doesn’t go into effect for a few years. A few months wait won’t hurt anything.
Maybe they could focus on implementing all the cost savings from the waste and fraud. That should be pretty easy to agree to do.

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

“Planned Parenthood is actually an excellent charity, and one that is excellent in the area of low-cost health cares.”
MayBee | Sep 14, 2009 11:50:41 PM
That’s great, but there really is not a compelling reason the government should subsidize them at 36% rather than just 28%. I’d love for government to subsidize all charities at 100%, but we need to get government focused back on its core duties. Matching charitable donations with tax dollars (the defacto effect of the tax exemptions) is a luxury that can be trimmed to get the budget under control.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 14, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

“Not sure why you think you’re saying anything new or revolutionary…”
Far from it. I’m stating a truism that is as old as the tax code itself. But as we see, there are those abroad in the land who haven’t a clue about the concept.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 14, 2009, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

That’s great, but there really is not a compelling reason the government should subsidize them at 36% rather than just 28%
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The compelling reason is that they are taxing the person doing the donating at 36% rather than just 28%.
Pretending the person being taxed at the higher rate has some kind of advantage is just a rhetorical game.

Posted by: MayBee | September 14, 2009, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

Obviously, if you taxed them at 28% instead of 36%, they would no longer have the huge advantage of the bigger deduction.
That would really show them!

Posted by: MayBee | September 15, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am

“Pretending the person being taxed at the higher rate has some kind of advantage is just a rhetorical game.”
MayBee | Sep 14, 2009 11:59:59 PM
Sure thing. There’s no difference between earning $60k a year and $300k a year and to suggest otherwise is a rhetorical game. I swear I recall God himself commenting that an old woman’s penny was worth a hundredth of a rich man’s dollar – or something like that. I might be misremembering it a hair.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 15, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am

time to start tax churches and all ‘religious’ leeches on society

Posted by: 007 | September 15, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Sure thing. There’s no difference between earning $60k a year and $300k a year and to suggest otherwise is a rhetorical game.
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No.
Suggesting they have an advantage because they are taxed at a higher rate is a rhetorical game.
Not sure why you are invoking God.

Posted by: MayBee | September 15, 2009, 12:34 am 12:34 am

“I have an idea. Table the health care debate for a while. Focus on other areas…like the war, or jobs” – I take it that you are healthy or already have access to good medical care otherwise I think the priorities would be different. Please keep in mind that for a lot of Americans waiting for reform can be the difference between life and death. Literally.

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | September 15, 2009, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Please keep in mind that for a lot of Americans waiting for reform can be the difference between life and death. Literally.
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Mark, I understand that.
But most of the reforms aren’t scheduled to go into effect until 2013.
A few months in 2009-2010 aren’t going to be a deal-breaker.
As I said, President Obama says he knows where there are savings to be had. He could implement those now without needed a different make-up of Congress.
Also, I consider war to be kind of a life and death decision.

Posted by: MayBee | September 15, 2009, 12:43 am 12:43 am

I agree about focusing on the war and jobs, but I think Congress can also do health care too since most of the real work gets done in committees. We have been waiting for the Finance Committee to do some work for months. Yes, many of the reforms would not go into effect until 2013, but the obstructionists are well aware that politicians seem to lose their nerve in election years. So a delay now would put it off for at least another year. By that time the focus will be on the next “crisis” since the media seems to have difficulty walking and chewing gum at the same time. We have been waiting for over a hundred years for universal health care and each year more folks suffer. Just statistics to some, but to their love ones these folks are real flesh and blood.

Posted by: Mark from atlanta | September 15, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Of course FOX News didn’t make the cut. Obama doesn’t want any hard questions to be asked of him.
Plus it’s because of FOX news (and talk radio, conservative websites) that he’s in the pathetic situation he is in right now.
Within just the last week, FOX news & etc got Van Jones fired, the NEA director “reassigned”, got Obama’s Census Board to sever ties with ACORN, got the senate to vote and a 83-7 in favor of defunding ACORN and got 10′s and 10′s and 10′s of thousands of hard working Americans to rally against Obama’s agenda in Wash, DC for the first time in their lives!!!
And while doing all this, FOX has made the Obama adoring media of ABC/CNN/NBC/yada yada look weak and uninformed.
If there was no FOX news, Obama’s piece of crap healthcare legislation would already be law by now.

Posted by: sheryl | September 15, 2009, 1:59 am 1:59 am

“If there was no FOX news, Obama’s…healthcare legislation would already be law by now.” – The U.S. has the lowest infant survival rate of all technologically advanced countries. If, as you say, the people at Fox perpetuated that situation, I wonder how they sleep at night.

Posted by: mark from atlanta | September 15, 2009, 3:20 am 3:20 am

“Of course FOX News didn’t make the cut.”
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FOX is a propaganda station.

Posted by: bonnytruth | September 15, 2009, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Heaven forbid, Obama face Fox – the only station that might ask a question not designed to feed into his storyline.
I’ve never tired of a President faster than I have of Obama. Could he PLEASE just go away for a while?

Posted by: Bobbi | September 15, 2009, 5:46 am 5:46 am

If obama and the dems hate the insurance companies so much, how come they want to the government to be one big insurance company? People who already have insurance will have to pay for other peoples’ insurance – what a greedy hypocritical group this administration is!

Posted by: Jenny | September 15, 2009, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Wow is the president in a mess. He has bad friends, Communist appointees, and it turns out that community organizers organize sex trafficking and tax evasion.

Posted by: Bratee | September 15, 2009, 8:20 am 8:20 am

“We have been waiting for over a hundred years for universal health care”
Who is “we”? A minority of Americans.

Posted by: tjp612 | September 15, 2009, 8:27 am 8:27 am

“Wow is the president in a mess. He has bad friends, Communist appointees, and it turns out that community organizers organize sex trafficking and tax evasion.”
Yet the MSM still chooses to ignore the unfolding ACORN scandal as it continues to unfold (all in the name of protecting Our Boy King).
Under “Political News” banner, Joe Wilson is still news (‘You Lie’ Congressman: No Double Apology), but ACORN, an organization that received payments during the Obama campaign (allegedly for services received) and and an organization Obama represented as a lawyer still receives NO COVERAGE (ABC does have an AP report buried – I used search function to find).

Posted by: tjp612 | September 15, 2009, 8:31 am 8:31 am

“If obama and the dems hate the insurance companies so much, how come they want to the government to be one big insurance company?”
Here’s the dirty little secret: While Obama demonizes the insurance companies, his cronies have cut back door deals the insurance companies themselves (just as he has done with the pharmaceutical industry).
Insurance companies (well, the FOBs – “Friends of Barack”) stand to GAIN 10 MILLION NEW CUSTOMERS if ObamaCare is passed (to administer Medicare benefits).
Barack Obama is a pathological liar. It’s as simple as that. But, the public is catching on. Making the rounds on Sunday isn’t going to boost his cause. The more he talks, the less people are willing to buy what he is selling. But in his arrogance, he thinks otherwise.

Posted by: tjp612 | September 15, 2009, 8:38 am 8:38 am

Can someone please tell Obama he is not on the campaign trail anymore.

Posted by: Al from NJ | September 15, 2009, 9:07 am 9:07 am

No FOX because he can’t spoon feed the questions to his minions like he does at the other ‘so-called’ MSM. He needs to go on FOX because those are the people he needs to win over. Not the MSM Obama-bots that follow his every word and can do no wrong in their eyes. Don’t be SCARED!! Chris Wallace doesn’t bit….

Posted by: Mateo | September 15, 2009, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Obama is a Coward. He is punishing FOX for reporting the ACORN story. Obama’s favorite Organization! After all he was their trainer in chief. My question is WHAT was he training them to do???? By the recent reports it doesn’t look good for him!!

Posted by: Concerned American | September 15, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Just shows how afraid Obama is of Fox News, the only real news organization today.

Posted by: Jaye | September 15, 2009, 10:20 am 10:20 am

“FOX is the only non-Obama propaganda machine station.” ~ bonnytruth
There. Fixed it.

Posted by: Foxy ;-) | September 15, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am

The Sunday show is Chris Wallace. Mike Wallace’s son. How conservative does Obama think Chris is? Anyway, he is afraid of Chris, apparently. As I said when he first started his tirade against Fox, he doesn’t want or need my vote. And, he won’t get it.

Posted by: Axey | September 15, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am

At Fox News Channel, you’ll find news that’s tailored to fit, not one-size-fits-all. Just look at the range of sizes they offer for the Washington D.C. TEA party crowd.
On the Record with Greta Van Susteren: Screen banner reads “Thousands of protestors marched to the capitol on Saturday”
Fox News: “Tens of thousands.”
Bill O’Reilly – “About 75,000”
Griff Jenkins: “Fox reported that tens of thousands turned out. That number was given by the DC fire and emergency services group. They said to a reporter off the record on background that 60,000 early on were there at Freedom Plaza. I can tell you by my observation there was a hundred thousand more. There weren’t a million, but there was more than a hundred thousand.”
Sean Hannity – Screen banner reads “Hundreds of thousands descend on nation’s capital for ‘Tea Party’”
Glenn Beck: “I think that it doesn’t matter if any newspaper published how many people were there. University of Illinois I think did a spatial count and looked at the photos and said I think it was 1.7 million people there. It doesn’t matter if they say there were three; the people that are wandering the halls of congress and the White House know exactly how many people were there.”

Posted by: WWW | September 15, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am

So, substituting Univision for Fox, it’s not a true “full Ginsburg.” Kinda like the Tiger Slam isn’t a true Grand Slam. Shall we call this the “full Obama”? I am disappointed that, since he’s actually doing the interviews on Friday– the better to leave Sunday free for golf– he did not see fit to include Fox. Chris Wallace is hardly Glen Beck or Shaun Hannity, and his show runs on the Fox network, not Fox News (although it is rerun later on Fox News).

Posted by: moderate | September 15, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Mark from Atlanta, while disagreeing with others who say that the president should concentrate instead on economic issues and international problems like the war in Afghanistan, you suggest that health insurance reform can not wait and should be given the highest priority because the urgency of getting relief to families currently uninsured. \
You do realize that the president’s call to hurry a measure through does not include a call to implement a plan quickly, right? The Democratic plans already out of committee do not take effect, on the benefit side of things anyway (collecting additional money to pay for it is another matter), until years down the road, usually 2012, once the president is past the next election. Seems if the lawmakers shared your sense of urgency, they would try to get the relief started quickly, not just the passage of the bill.
It CAN wait, and it should. We need reform, and we need to make progress soon, but we do not need to push through a massive overhaul at this time.

Posted by: moderate | September 15, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N…..What happened Mr.Pres?…couple hundred thousand people marching in Washington spook you out….forget about a one term president, you are on the cusp of becoming a one year lame duck president…

Posted by: HobokenJohn | September 15, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

“You do realize that the president’s call to hurry a measure through does not include a call to implement a plan quickly, right? The Democratic plans do not take effect, on the benefit side until years down the road, usually 2012, once the president is past the next election.”
Moderate…why do you try to confuse libs with facts…they have no use for them

Posted by: HobokenJohn | September 15, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Why won’t the coward go on Fox; because hehas no facts to support his claims.

Posted by: David Wood | September 15, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Has this clown seen the Oval Office in the last few weeks?
If I showed up to my job as frequently as the big 0 I would get fired!

Posted by: Tom M | September 15, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

How so Bobbi? If they didn’t do the outstanding job that they do, we’d already be a Socialist state under the ACORN-SEIU flag! Thank God for them!

Posted by: Kielbasa | September 15, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

TV: All Obama, all the time. It’s like watching “I Love Barack” reruns. “Baraaaaaaack, you got some ‘splaining to do”.

Posted by: MadeInUSA | September 15, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Geez…can’t he just stay in the White House for a while and leave us alone? All he’s going to do is make Americans more angry since they can’t get away from him.
No Obamacare…EVER!

Posted by: IWantMyCountryBack | September 16, 2009, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Rather than Obama being “scared of FOX,” have you thought that maybe he does not want to go on a television organization where the biggest star said that he has a “deep seated hatred for white people?” Sorry folks, that’s not real reporting; that’s despicable.

Posted by: Kevin | September 20, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am

If you look at the orginal time line for the health care bill and the recovery theift bill to get forced to his desk… Picking out his dog took longer.

Posted by: Russell | September 21, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

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