Reid Says 90% Agreement on Health Care

I’ll believe it when I see it.
The Congressional Democrats are a bunch of wusses. This nation desperately needs them to act on a long-term problem which is destroying many of its people. And they fiddle around worrying about whether they will be re-elected. We need the public option!

In what world do these political leaders live in? I am guessing that they are talking about 90% of the democratic party and 0% of the republican party. Sounds like a real rail-road job coming down the line coupled with a huge tax “excuse me fee” increase that of course will be absorbed by the companies in question just like what occured in the financial sector….

Let me translate for Reid and Pelosi. We are short 10% of the democrats needed to get this bill shoved down Americas throat but we are working on it because we know what is best for stupid Americans.

“The Baucus Bill details, are simply un-American and deserve no consideration whatsoever.”
Rick McDaniel | Sep 8, 2009 5:44:37 PM
And that, folks, is why this bill will get done with the support of 0% of the “all my way or you’re UNAMERICAN!” Repubicans.

Has any proponent of the we need “PUBLIC OPTION” plan ever considered who will pay for the coverage of the 46 million people? Assuming that cost per person was “cough” 500 a year, whoa that is 2,300,000,000 a year in cost …. folks that is billions not millions

Rick McDaniel, how do you propose to pay for your “public option” portion?

“Has any proponent of the we need “PUBLIC OPTION” plan ever considered who will pay for the coverage of the 46 million people?”
JD | Sep 8, 2009 5:52:11 PM
Has any proponent of the status quo, private insurance oligarchy with no real competition, considered that American spends about TWICE as much as all the other first world nations per captia? Folks, that is A TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BEING WASTED without any obvious return (our life expectancy is equivalent or less and outcomes are at best slightly better if you cherry pick).

“Can Congress, and Obama, FORCE a citizen to give money to a private, for-profit corporation?”
Ed | Sep 8, 2009 5:56:57 PM
Like Blackwater? Lockheed? Boeing? Raytheon? Colt? Thousands of road work contractors?
Come on. Join us in reality here.

-Has any proponent of the status quo, private insurance oligarchy with no real competition, considered that American spends about TWICE as much as all the other first world nations per captia? Folks, that is A TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BEING WASTED without any obvious return (our life expectancy is equivalent or less and outcomes are at best slightly better if you cherry pick).-
I think the USPS should be a test case for gov’t reform. PS the French system for healthcare is in debt, big time. Read up on that… As for life expectancy: don’t smoke, drink in moderation, don’t eat garbage or do stupid stuff. It is called making smart choices. Look into it.

“I think I see a pattern! I wonder if anyone in Washington has?”
‘Un-American’ | Sep 8, 2009 6:00:25 PM
A list of successful public programs that are only broke in the minds of right wingnuts? Yup indeed. I suppose just about every company on the DOW is broke because they took a loss during the Bush recession.

I don’t know that I trust their math considering they also think that budget neutral and 1 trillion deficit mean the same thing.

Has any proponent of the we need “PUBLIC OPTION” plan ever considered who will pay for the coverage of the 46 million people?”
JD | Sep 8, 2009 5:52:11 PM
Has any proponent of the status quo, private insurance oligarchy with no real competition, considered that American spends about TWICE as much as all the other first world nations per captia? Folks, that is A TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BEING WASTED without any obvious return (our life expectancy is equivalent or less and outcomes are at best slightly better if you cherry pick).
Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 8, 2009 5:58:03 PM
Anwser the question. We pay more because we have better medical facilities than the rest of the world. Why do you think people in other first world countries come here for help.

Why aren’t our politicans locked up? Seriously, how do they avoid jail time. Most of them should be locked up.

I am certain that we will have a national health care plan that is beneficial to all US citizens; it is horrific to pay more for the care of prisoners than for that of those who work low paying or are temporarily out of work not to say prisoners don’t deserve med/dent care…we are a wealthy country that God Jehovah continues to bless, we have the funds to have a decent national health care; various options on the table something will work for all….if people on welfare can have good healthcare why not others who have contributed but not able to presently….not that people on welfare shouldn’t have great healthcare..it’s just that I worked for a major corp and saw women use the system to pay their kids healthcare, while they or their significant other pd for their own health care, those of us who were honest had to bite the bullet do without much/had to honestly sacrifice because of certain legal clauses we and our husband’s or significant others couldn’t afford health care…it’s high time now to settle the score once and for all to move us ahead as the number 1 country in all things concerning our citizens.

“We pay more because we have better medical facilities than the rest of the world. Why do you think people in other first world countries come here for help.”
billy bob | Sep 8, 2009 6:03:37 PM
This is a lie. There is no rush of people from France, Germany, the UK, etc coming here for treatment.
We have great facilities. So do the rest of the first world, indeed it is part of the definition of first world. But being able to get an MRI within a week for tennis elbow is hardly the mark of a superior system. In every rating, the US doesn’t even make the top 10 (well below top 20 unless you leave out accessibility).
Stephen Hawking is rich and world renown. He doesn’t come to the US for treatment. Why is that?
Our life expectancy is lower than most other first world nations (and we smoke less). Why is that?

Anything Reid and Pelosi approve of really should make the true American shutter. Nothing about their politics shows love for our country. It is hard to believe two people have the power to do such damage to our country. Our officials may have clout now, but Democrats and Republicans will have a strong voice come next election time! I only hope the damage can be undone.

re:This is a lie. There is no rush of people from France, Germany, the UK, etc coming here for treatment.
Actually they cannot afford to come here because their tax rate is effectively at 65 % to 85% to pay for the government programs
Please compare apples to apples

it really comes down to bottom line of affordability, the United States is NOT a small european country, it has over 300 million people both legal and illegal, we SIMPLY cannot have universal health coverage without a huge transfer of wealth and redistribution, I would like to see a show of hand for those that want a return to 55% tax rate. no most posters are probably too young to remember

There could very well be a deal in place by the time of Obama’s speech tomorrow.

I am willing to pay a little more for health insurance if it helps America. I have great insurance, I have no complaints but I have family members that have pre-existing conditions and can not afford the high premiums. I tend to think of myself as an Independent, but if you want to label me a liberal or socialist for my way thinking, then go ahead. I will be proud of that label.

Ouch 1500 penalty for famiily of 4 if they do NOT get insurance! Can anyone say Government Mandant

No you don’t get fined (wink) you get subsidized with a goverment funded program and wait years for services.. to emulate the every quoted “Canadian Model of Efficency” Anyone remember the wage and price controls of the 70′s what happended? Demand Shot up and Supply dropped dramatically, ie doctors fled the system due to low reimbursements and wait times increased and artificial limits are imposed on what surgical procedures may/could be done

Holy Snooks ! Reading that bill also reduces some benefits such as FSA
Limit Health Flexible Savings Account Contributions. Contributions to health Flexible Savings Accounts (FSAs) would be limited to $2,000 per year under this proposal.

who is going to watch this speech? does anyone actually believe this guy anymore? still to this day no mention of how it will really be paid for. note to obama…JOBS JOBS JOBS and not govt ones.

Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 8, 2009 6:11:26 PM
Who is dying on the streets? You do realize that 70% of health care costs are taken up by about 10% of the population, that is mostly elderly who already get Medicare. If you count all of the so called 45 million uninsured you can’t even assume that 10% of them are sick and are a burden on the system because they are more than likely young. So at any given time there are probably less than 2 million people who rely on emergency rooms for care. Hardly a burden on the system although there are many on Medicaid who use emergency rooms for primary care due to scarcity of doctors that will cover them and long wait times.
Also we have a lower life expectancy statistically because other countries don’t factor in murder and other circumstances that we have a higher rate of.
If you do your homework you would realize that statistically your chances of going bankrupt due to medical bills are very low since the majority of your health care dollars are spent when you are elderly.

These 3 poor misfits think they just have to explain their plan better to the american people. What they don’t seem to understand is the american people know perfectly well what is in the health bill & simply do NOT want it. So go ahead & explain til you’re blue in the face. Americans still don’t want it. Cram it down our throats & that’s the last mistake you’ll make. Remember Clinton’s mid-term elections, the contract with america & the GOP take-over? Well get ready to lose the congress AGAIN.

It’s going to be expensive, and of course, eventually it too will go broke.

Gnyshdenuf,,dont you worry there will be no damage that will be undone, people will not have a mistake, following the lies and misinformation of the GOP is a mistake. Wake Up…..
The Good will prevail, the bad will be gone by next election.

Bottom line this is the Democrats bill and it will lead to the rebirth of the GOP… When people feel the pain of rationed care and start to hear “NO” more than they hear “Yes” over critical health care (that they have access to today) the people will punish the Democrats, and that right soon! You want rationed “Walter Reed” style health care, you got it! The politicans don’t care… THEY get to opt out of it, and thanks to the defeat of the Coburn amendment… THEY JUST DID!!! Teddy would be proud!

I’m with you, Brandon.

90% Agreement.
That leaves 10%.
Ten percent? Hmmm, that’s what’s left of the GOP.
Okay, no health care for 10%. That’s affordable.

Have you not heard what the Citizens of the United States are saying? This is not the bill for us! We need reform, and your looking in the wrong places. The Citizens of the United States again will be paying for this one! Well vote the bill in and Mr President and staff, Senators and Reps. You will all be looking for work. Then you will see how it feels. Government run programs do not work! The elderly and baby boomers will be the first to feel the effects of this plan.

I am 74 yrs of age and to the people who are afraid of healthcare reform because they don’t Want govt. to “decide” their health care options,hear this,I CURRENTLY HAVE HEART DISEASE that has progressed over years. I am otherwise healthy and in good spirits, I have the best health ins I could get.I am in need of a heart transplant but the ins co. does not pay for heart transplants to anyone over 65 regardless of their overall health. You talk of death panels? insurance companys already have them!!!!!

Death Panels?
Eisenhower’s socialist freeway system slaughtered millions.

Put a stop to all this crap and vote 3rd party from now on.

communism is what the democratic party is all about now and they will be thrown out of office in 2010 for sure.

Pelosi and Reid are total idiots and are not listening to the American people. Except for those that want others to pay their bill for healthcare, most Americans do not want the government involved in health care. I keep hearing them say how great Medicare is working. As a 67 year old retiree that was given no choice I can tell you Medicare is not working and also that Medicare doesn’t pay the full cost of the services the members get. It pays about 70% of the real cost and private insurance customers pay 130% to make up for the government’s theft of service. We want congress and the president to stay out of our lives. I believe it is unconstitutional for the federal government to be involved with health care or education. We are not a socialist country and don’t want to become one. Many of the people Obama has hired or appointed are radical socialists and communist sympathizers who see Hugo Chavez and Castro as their idols. Obama believes the same way, but just is not as blatant about saying so.

Post by Tom:”Want a real revolution? What have the Republicans done that is to the benefit of American Citizens? Nothing. What about the Democrats? Nothing. Vote third party whenever possible from now on.”
What you have stated is not true. George W. Bush and Reagan cut the working people’s taxes more than anyone in history. The Democrats are the ones that offer freebies to lazy people to buy votes. Nearly 50% of Americans now expect the government to keep them from cradle to grave. The Democratic party is the party of welfare and socialism.

The total amount of income tax collected by the IRS in a year is $1 Trillion. obama’s deficit is nearly $2 Trillion, then add this $1 trillion health bill, $850 million for Cap and Tax, the $787 Billion Economic non-incentive, $50 Billion for the auto bailouts, $3 trillion for the Cash for Clunkers, … Obama is destroying the economy with his wild eyed Trillion dollar programs.

Pelosi and Reid are total idiots and are not listening to the American people.
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Hmmm. IMO, Obama, Pelosi and Reid are listening to the people who voted them into office as they should. As Reid said, the Republicans have the opportunity to negotiate on bipartisan bill– not a Republican bill, but a bipartisan one. The only person who has appeared to do this in good faith is Olympia Snowe. I’m very grateful they’re not giving in to fear, noise and sour grapes. This is good news and I’m looking forward to the President’s speech tomorrow.

I can’t believe how stupid I am voting for Obama.
You think I want kids to graduate to a higher grade next year?
Geeesh, what was I thinking?

When are you all gonna get it. Carrer politicians do not care about the common man. Democrats/Republicans is just a divide and conquer scheme. Republicans just want to make their “fat cat” donors fatter and Democrats want you to get hooked up on their government “crack” (free health care, free college, etc etc) but as we all know the pusher only gives you the stuff for free until your hooked. Its time for the citizenry to wake up and look around. Who is gonna have a job (fat cats moved them all to China) to pay the taxes for all freebies. Wake up WAKE UP WAKE UPPPPPP

Hopefully these socialists do not get their way on making sure that the responsible Americans who provide for their families do not have to also provide for all the malcontents who chose not to be responsible and all the illegals that the plan to add to the rolls with their upcoming immigration amnesty bill. These people need to be replaced with people that understand what a Republic provides for individuals under the constitution.

Mr. Onion you got it right. It’s divide and conquer. WE THE PEOPLE should put political rheoric aside.
It’s us against the GIANT CORPORATE CEO’S. They’re the ones who paid our politicians, to pass the laws, to out source everything America used to manufacture.
To heck with Dems. Reps. and I’s.
It is WE THE PEOPLE against bought off politicians and CORPORATE CEO’s.
ONCE the SHEEPLE learn we can have a 200,000,000 million man women and child lobby, they won’t know where to hide.
WE THE PEOPLE, can be a force to be reckoned with. Once all Americans realize we are under attack, just like the crazies attacked us on 9/11. only this time it’s our own crooked , bought off politicians, and CUT THROAT CORPORATE CEO’S who are after our hides.
SHEEPLE, stop listening to the GRASSLEY’s of the world. He has taken 3.5 million dollars in campaign donations from the Health Care Industry he caters to.
GRASSLEY and all the older, long term
Senators and Congressmen, need to go.
Crooked politicians like Grassley, and Boehner, tell outright lies, scaring the underinformed SHEEPLE to vote against their own best interests.
Boehner said, ” I won’t let a Washington burueacrat stand in between me and my doctor”.”
What he neglected to say his he has a Government run insurance policy. And the real truth is there is a CUT THROAT CORPORATE CEO policy, standing between you and your doctor.
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Obama, Pelosi, Reid who have common favors “CONTRADICTORY POTS”. All three of them said in terms of human rights;
-Support radically “ABORTION” which American babies of 43,000,000 have been killed by American have chosen to abort them since Roe vs Wade in 1973.
-The GITMO would be closed until Oct., 2009.
-To regain human rights of the Terrorists, the three plus AG, Eric Holder eager want to reopen CIA interrogation.
-In terms of human rights, Obama want to aid to rebuilt $840,000,000 for Hamas Terror Groups which first launched rockets against Israel even.
THEY DON’T CARE WHAT AMERICAN TROOPS HAVE MADE A HUGE EFFORTS TO CATCH THE TERRORISTS ON THE SPOT OF TWO WARS.

Meeting behind closed doors again?
Why wasn’t this on C-Span like Obama promised.
More lies.

Let’s see where we are a week from now. I’m predicting far less than 90%.

Does anyone ever believe what these politicians say anyway! Pelosi and Reid have said the same thing before! Let thme pass it and let us see where they stand next election! Americans are sick and tired of both parties, paid by OUR tax dollars, our employees..and our employees need to be fired if they do not do what we want! That, my friends, is the American system..your employee screws up..get rid of them…deny unemployment insurance, and call it a day! It is now time for Americans to take control of their own destiny, the BILL OF RIGHTS DEMANDS IT!!

Typical of the current entitlement generation. Priorities all screwed up. I listened to a woman ask her friend for gas money because her disability payment was late. She then went on complaining about her cell phone reception, her cable viewing, aerobics class (disability check?) and having her 22 year old daughter’s bills. WHAT?? You bum gas money and yet you have all this extra crap? And WE will have to pay for her to have all this stuff and her disability. Priorities and handouts… thanks for the change Obamites.

Let the change begin. We need healthcare and respect for our president included in this bill. It is time to set the Obama haters down and tell them how unpatriotic they are acting towards the office of the President of the United States of America.
Posted by: concernaboutnow | Sep 9, 2009 10:36:31 AM
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Interesting, did you post this same info when this was taking place against Bush for many years?