School Districts in Six States to Refrain from Showing Presidential Address Next Week
Jake Tapper and Karen Travers report:
White House officials seemed to be caught flat-footed by the response to what they say was a simple back to school address by President Obama to students across the nation — and has turned into a firestorm.
The White House now admits that one of the lessons plans surrounding the speech was written clumsily, subjecting it to misinterpretation, and had to be re-written.
Some parents are talking about keeping their kids from school on tuesday to avoid the president's remarks. The White House says it will release a copy of the text of the president's address on monday so parents and educators can see that the message is entirely about learning, staying in school and taking personal responsibility.
What seems to be drawing the most ire are optional preparatory materials from the Department of Education asking students to "Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."
That has now been changed for students to "Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals"
But that has not stopped concern and even outrage in some school districts across the country.
In the Douglas County School District in central Colorado, the phones have been ringing off the hook with with upset parents.
"We've probably had about 40 to 50 calls today and probably about 10 or 12 emails today from parents," said Susan Meek of the Douglas County school system.
Some school districts in Texas, Illinois, Virginia, Wisconsin, Missouri and Minnesota are even refusing to show the president's address.
So what did that original statement mean?
Heather Higginbottom, deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, said it was "inartfully worded."
"We changed it. The whole lesson plan speaks to setting goals in increasing their educational achievement," she said.
"The goal of this speech is to encourage students to set goals for themselves," said Higginbottom. "We have a 30 percent drop out rate in this country. We want that reduced."
There is some historical precedent for presidents speaking to students in nationally televised addresses. President George H. W. Bush did so in 1991 and President Ronald Reagan even talked politics with students in 1988.
Nonetheless charges from Republican officials that President Obama is seeking to indoctrinate students — unsupported by any real evidence — have been flying.
Florida GOP chairman Jim Greer, who this week called President Obama’s planned speech to school children an attempt to “indoctrinate America’s children to his socialist agenda,” told ABC News' Steve Portnoy that he’s pleased with the change in the Department of Education document.
Greer said "this administration has been very aggressive and very vocal of their vision of what America should look like in the future and that is not my and my wife’s vision of what America should look like.."
He said "this White House has been very diabolical in creating outlets to communicate with young people."
White House officials call such charges baseless.
"We need to be rising above this," said Higginbottom. "When the president goes out to talk to students about education, this shouldn't be a tool for the right wing."
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would love to see an in depth analysis of those districts
Posted by: + or - | September 3, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
We are planning to keep our children out of school that day to protest.
Posted by: Two See | September 3, 2009, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
“would love to see an in depth analysis of those districts”
I would guess it has to do more with kneekjerk fears of parents complaints than demographics or school performance or things like that.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
I’m sure those children will love having all their friends now that their parents are nuts.
What has our country come to?
Posted by: Greg | September 3, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
mr obama i wish you spent as much time trying to create a job as you do reading speaches. what is it with this guy and the microphone?
Posted by: catman | September 3, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
“We changed it. The whole lesson plan speaks to setting goals in increasing their educational achievement,” she said.
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No, the whole lesson plan speaks to the speech Obama is making, the historic aspect of it, the words he chose, and how inspirational he can be.
The lesson plan was optional, but then so was the speech.
I think the speech is fine. I have no problem with the President of the United States talking to any group, including school children.
I’m troubled, however, the WH did not see a problem with the materials produced by the Department of Education.
Posted by: MayBee | September 3, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
OBAMA-Amateur mistakes Weekly…stay tuned!!!
Posted by: JennR | September 3, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Presidential aides to the President acknowledged today that they had assisted the Department of Education draft the lesson plans. While it may not have been an attempt to indoctrinate students into a socialist agenda, it was most certainly an attempt to involve schoolchildren in this creepy cult of personality surrounding this President, and being promoted by many of his supporters. It’s icky.
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Why upset? Oh no reason except
information overload
“celebrity” overexposure
all crises are opportunities.
all crises are opportunities … for a speech.
Alinsky organizing – Ayers school grants – indoctrinating the children
condescending attitudes
And Pres Obama:
don’t go off the teleprompter,
don’t go off the script and bring up sumpin in the news. Remember Gates / Crowley
Don’t use self-deprecating humor. Works for Biden when you do it, it comes out “special olympics bowling”
Posted by: robertb | September 3, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Two See: protest WHAT, exactly? Are you just knee-jerking in the manner that your GOP neoconservative reactionary overlords tell you, or do you actually think — DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK — that the President of the United States is trying to tell your children to do something unsavory? Are you being serious here?
Posted by: boriskat | September 3, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Yes, can we get the names of all the districts?
Posted by: WI Mom | September 3, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Obama has several Communists working directly for him now. He attended a racist pastor’s church for 20 years. What are supposed to think? I don’t trust Obama as far as I could throw him, and he’s a big man.
Posted by: Johanan | September 3, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
I wish there had been some way to keep our children from being exposed to the previous 8 years of “W” … I’m sure they’re scarred for life.
Posted by: sawrad | September 3, 2009, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
“I’m troubled, however, the WH did not see a problem with the materials produced by the Department of Education.
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 3, 2009 7:40:41 PM”
Not only did the WH not see a problem, WH aides acknowedged today that they helped draft the things.
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
So the President addresses children in schools?? Haven’t several other Presidents done this in the past, including Bush? What is the problem??? Maybe it’s because his skin is just a little too black. That is very very sad. If the parents don’t want their children to listen to the President, then they’re just displaying to their own children how filled with hate and discontent they are. which is an even sadder example for the child. Most kids whose parents are like that end up either completely resenting their parents for being so stuck in the mud, or they grow up to be hate-mongers themselves. Very very sad.
Posted by: lucyk330 | September 3, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
There should be no firestorm over this. Our education system is failing and it is about time the truth is spoken. It has nothing to do with Obama “brainwashing” students.
I myself, only being 23, have lived in the UK, worked with many Polish students, and visited Poland. I can say first hand that our education level is a joke compared to the rest of the world.
I finsished 3rd in my high school and in the top 5% in college, and what I know compared to those people my own age in Europe makes us look like cavemen.
So for those of you keeping your kids home from school, what good will that do? Afraid to let your children know that their schools are failing them.
I say let them go to school chances are while Obama is talking they will be sitting in their chairs texting, changing their facebook status, or doing what many kids are doing these days; not taking advantage of a free education.
Posted by: Thomas Payne | September 3, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
My guess is the districts that are not allowing this presentation to their kids also don’t agree with O’Bama’s idea of Health Reform . I wish my kids went to school in one of those districts!
Posted by: Appauled | September 3, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
wish there had been some way to keep our children from being exposed to the previous 8 years of “W” … I’m sure they’re scarred for life. Posted by: sawrad | Sep 3, 2009 7:45:17 PM
DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK — that the President of the United States is trying to tell your children to do something unsavory? Are you being serious here? Posted by: boriskat
Isn’t STD and teen moms a national school problem -
Ahh, now if Bill Clinton had asked to talk to all high school girls about taking proper preventive measures….
Barack isn’t it to THAT. He’s into organizing – which is indoctrination, setting goals …for a common cause.
Posted by: robertb | September 3, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Let me see… the President wants to tell kids that they should stay in school, create their own goals, meet them, graduate, and move on to bigger and better things…. and THIS is what the right wing wants to PROTEST? and keep kids away from school? What are they afraid of??? Their kids may actually be told something that their parents aren’t telling them to better their own lives?
FYI, 99% of school kids in the US are CITIZENS too. OBAMA is their president too. For those of you who didn’t vote for OBAMA, you can’t say he’s not your president, no matter how much you protest. If you’re a citizen of the US, he’s your president. Deal with it.
Don’t like it? vote him out in 2012. It’s not likely that will happen tho’.
Have a nice day!
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | September 3, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
ORIGINAL:”Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” AND REWRITE:”Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals”—There are a big difference between these two statements. Heather Higginbottom, deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, said it was “in artfully worded.” Sounds like we need some “schooling” the White House
Posted by: d | September 3, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
We need to get this socialist out of the white house, he is dangerous, oh, I am a democrat and race has nothing to do with it, that is an obama supporter copout, if you don’t like obama u r a racist,so they say,
Posted by: Rog | September 3, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
How partisan can ABC get… Oh wait, they just did an infomerical for his health care plan, with no rebuttal.
It’s so nice to see the journalism integrity has fallen to the level of “Pravda” style Propaganda…
Oh well it must be good for buisness. But then Fascism always was Corporations merging with the State. Why should ABC be any different in hindsight.
The difference is Bush had ONE network… Obama has ALL but one network, PLUS radio, and the DYING newspaper industry.
And on that note, thank God I finally got around to cancelling the Newspaper around here! Now I get to see a story from conflicting viewpoints and it is quite refreshing…
Posted by: jafo | September 3, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
And oh, by the way, federal statute explicitly places limits on the federal government’s involvement in curriculum, and expressly denies the feds any control over curriculum or programs of instruction.
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
” Obama has several Communists working directly for him now. He attended a racist pastor’s church for 20 years. What are supposed to think? ” Well, you got this from Glenn Beck and he told you what to think. He told you to put your tin hat back on at the end of the show, load your weapons, slaughter your pig, and wait for the end of the world. On the other hand, I suggest you think for yourself. Let me remind you that we have people already in the senate – we have for years – that are avowed socialists. You know what? The country hasn’t melted down and they are highly respected people. Realize that Medicare and Social Security are socialistic plans established long ago. And, oh yeah, stop watching that bat-crap crazy Beck guy.
Posted by: Rick_VT | September 3, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
“The difference is Bush had ONE network..”
Nice to see a right winger finally admit the truth.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Ronald Reagan did it… George Bush did it… several other presidents did it… i guess they’re communist nazi fascist marxists too!
See how ridiculous that sounds? You CONS need to get a grip on reality. You’re rubbing off on your children.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | September 3, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Has washington lost its mind once again. NO I do not want this political radical in my school around my grandchildren. skin color has nothing to do with it . Its his crazy way of thinking i dont want repeated to my grandkids. Its hard enough as a grown up to see threw his lieing b.s. a child can only believe what they hear. Children learn what they live I guess that explains why hes such a liar.
Posted by: chevycj | September 3, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Obama is awesome, people are overreacting as usual. HOW MUCH OF THE SKY CAN THERE POSSIBLY BE LEFT TO FALL? Keep picking battles poorly and conservatives will end up looking loonier than they portray the liberals to be.
You’re just going to have to suck it up. Freedom of speech applies to the president as well.
Posted by: Cru | September 3, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Thomas Payne, please let these dumb American’s know about other countries. I bet is most of these nuts try to find out who owns the company they work for it maybe UK based. ?
Posted by: Joesnopy | September 3, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
shame on those districts.
shame on the parents who are whining and crying about their children being “indoctrinated.”
The President of the United States is going to give a short address to encourage school children to work their hardest and do their best in school. His speech may even include the old bromide that in America, in child can grow up to be President. He may, gasp, horror, even point to himself as an example. In what way is that message “indoctrination”?
What is wrong with people that they can’t even teach their children a modicum of respect for the President? Our country will never heal as long as this sort of divisiveness continues.
Posted by: justsane | September 3, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Why do some people try to bring race into everything? This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with protecting our children from political agends. If he (or his aides) would have left it alone at working hard and getting good grades, that would have been fine. They did not therefore it is a problem.
Posted by: honey92345 | September 3, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
“Having 1 lie blow up in their face, right winger simply move onto a brand new one.”
posted by Ryan C.
Excuse me? I never claimed it was an attempt to indoctrinate students into a socialist agenda. But I read the text of the original lesson plans, and they contained a whole lot of Obamalove and not much focus on why kids should stay in school….pretty much what you’d expect from a bunch of WH aides given a free shot at the nation’s schoolchildren.
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
“This man is so puffed up with his own conceit he thinks the world needs to hear him speak daily. We don’t”
Because Hannity does such a great job speaking for him, right?
As much as he’s spun and lied about daily, he practically has to show up somewhere on television every day to do damage control to keep uninformed people from spreading baseless dribble rooted in their xenophobic assumptions.
Posted by: M | September 3, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
I have no problem with the president speaking to students. Especially now that most people realize he is a FRAUD. Its amazing how things go full circle. Libs used to decry the establishment — Now, they are the conformists and the useful idiots for big brother.
Posted by: Keith | September 3, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
“Why do some people try to bring race into everything? ” Because, the majority of people objecting are doing so for political reasons or because they are racist. Moreover, a good share are probably right wing ‘christians’(tongue in cheek). I can remember no objections when Bush 41 or Reagan addressed students.
Posted by: Veteran38 | September 3, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
“Excuse me? I never claimed it was an attempt to indoctrinate students into a socialist agenda”
Naaah you just gave credence to the initial lie and added a new one.
Don’t worry the right wing media will tell you what new thing to be angry about tomorrow.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
“This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with protecting our children from political agends. If he (or his aides) would have left it alone at working hard and getting good grades, that would have been fine. They did not therefore it is a problem.”
DARE wasn’t a political agenda forced upon school children?
Posted by: Questioner | September 3, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Ryan C. your non sequitur about No Child Left Behind does not refute the fact that federal statutes, which precede the enactment of No Child Left Behind by the way, prohibit the Department of Education from involvement in curriculum.
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
How many right wingers here support school prayer?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Some of us don’t trust a government that runs this fast with some strange advisors and czars having the president’s ear.
In a land far away someone once said, “For this reason we have set before ourselves the task of inoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still un-perverted and therefore unspoiled.”
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 3, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
I’m outraged! I am so angry. I can’t believe that these kids should be hearing the communist propaganda like, “stay in school” and “get an education”. What a crock! In my day we just dropped out and made our money by doing hard work like working in factories or construction. Why is HE encouraging kids to learn? I guess he just doesn’t get OUR ways…
Posted by: OldTimeyMan | September 3, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
“Libs used to decry the establishment — Now, they are the conformists and the useful idiots for big brother.”
Meanwhile brave right wingers fight to protect corporate profits, torture, warrantless wiretaps…hey wait a minute.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
It’s all just getting too creepy. He believes all the stuff axelrod, gibbs and rahm tell him. The rest of us are just creeped out about it. He’s everywhere, all the time. I feel like we’re all being stalked.
Posted by: jennifert7 | September 3, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
“This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with protecting our children from political agends. If he (or his aides) would have left it alone at working hard and getting good grades, that would have been fine. They did not therefore it is a problem.”
DARE wasn’t a political agenda forced upon school children?
Posted by: Questioner | Sep 3, 2009 8:03:41 PM
DARE was(is) a program designed to educate people about drugs and the harm they can do, so no. It does not ask them what they are going to do for their president or what part of his speech inspired them the most.
Posted by: honey92345 | September 3, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
How many right wingers here support school prayer?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 3, 2009 8:04:40 PM
If Obama and the left keep up their eternal campaign like this, it’s YOU who don’t have a prayer.
NJ and VA in 2 months, the House in 2010, then goodbye to Obama in 2012.
Posted by: robertb | September 3, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
“The President encouraging students to do their best has NOTHING to do with curriculum. This does not qualify as ‘federal intervention’.”
But WH aides, in coordination with the Department of Education writing lesson plans for that include reading about President Obama and writing letters about how they can help him does.
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
“This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with protecting our children from political agends. If he (or his aides) would have left it alone at working hard and getting good grades, that would have been fine. They did not therefore it is a problem.”
DARE wasn’t a political agenda forced upon school children?
Posted by: Questioner | Sep 3, 2009 8:03:41 PM
DARE was(is) a program designed to educate people about drugs and the harm they can do, so no. It does not ask them what they are going to do for their president or what part of his speech inspired them the most.
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It’s propaganda for the war on drugs, as you said it educates about the harm – often exaggerating while downplaying any benefits derived.
Posted by: Questioner | September 3, 2009, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
I hope my son has a front row seat for the speech. You people are all NUTS. In fact, I think I will offer to pop popcorn and hand it out to his class….
Posted by: smb | September 3, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Obama has never done anything in is life except get elected. The weakest of all the canidates for decades. O he is a terrific quarter back none better.
We are all in for it, he will beat even Carter lousy record for hurting America.
I was hoping that he would be different but he is not with one excetion he is worst. Just look at who he is surrounded by OMG.
The media secured his election and they can’t even hide the mistakes. They deserve each other, America deserved better.
Now you will see him for he is and I am sorry I told you so.
Last word glad Gibson is leaving – he should leave sooner.
Posted by: A citizen | September 3, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
The right wing wackos have truly fallen off the cliff. What a bunch of brain dead, fear mongering, idiots the right wing extremists have become. Now it’s ‘evil’ if the President encourages students?? This common sense of this country has been hijacked by a HANDFUL of right wing WACKOS. WAKE UP AMERICA. You saw what 8 years of right wing insanity nearly did to destroy us. It’s time to extinguish this mentality once and for all.
Posted by: Eric | September 3, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
“Fifty-one percent (51%) of voters nationwide believe that Congress is too liberal while 22% hold the opposite view and say it is too conservative. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 14% say the ideological balance of Congress is about right and 12% are not sure.”
Right-Wing Nation is poised like so many panthers, coiled like so many cobras. Come November, 2010 we strike. And even the daffiest on the left can see what’s coming (OK, a few of them are too stupid).
Is prayer OK in parochial schools? Are parochial schools OK?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 3, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
The President wants to say something positive to our kids, and people want to protest this… Have these people completely lost it or just plan ignorant?
Anything positive to help kids stay in school, get an education, and make something of yourselves, is a good thing… Wake Up People!!!
Posted by: Quad356 | September 3, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
“Ryan C. your non sequitur about No Child Left Behind does not refute the fact that federal statutes, which precede the enactment of No Child Left Behind by the way, prohibit the Department of Education from involvement in curriculum.”
Are you really saying that previous legislation negates legislation more recently enacted?
ROFLMAO!
Maybe you should brush up on your civics and how on law supercedes previous law especially in the case of a reforming law like NCLB.
On the Dept of Ed website, they have a section for Teachers…two parts of that
“Teaching Resources, Lesson Plans
Lesson plans, primary documents, and teaching resources across the federal government”
And there’s this
“Doing What Works
Research-based practices for teaching English language learners, encouraging girls in math and science, and more.”
For administrators,
“What Works Clearinghouse
An independent source of scientific evidence regarding what works in education”
Those are just a few examples.
So who told you the fed was forbidden from being involved in curriculum.
I know you did not come up with that yourself.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Well, gee. The right has managed to use the schools for political purposes now (or they would have pitched a fit in 1991), and the schools caved. I hate Fox News. Truly. Because as far as I am concerned this is disrespectful and a new ugly.
The very parents complaining? They could use some school themselves.
Michelle Milkin scores big I guess.
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
t’s propaganda for the war on drugs, as you said it educates about the harm – often exaggerating while downplaying any benefits derived.
Posted by: Questioner | Sep 3, 2009 8:11:21 PM
Yeah, because the benefits from cocaine and heroin are so good for everyone.
Posted by: honey92345 | September 3, 2009, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
LOL LOL LOL
Posted by: Candobetter | September 3, 2009, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
“NJ and VA in 2 months, the House in 2010, then goodbye to Obama in 2012.”
ROFLMAO!
How far the GOP is fallen when they are pumped about the possibility of taking the Gov of VA.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
The more people throw the term “racist” into every disagreement with this administration, the more your cause is harmed. There are genuine disagreements with policy that have nothing to do with race. Not only is it inflammatory, to shout “racism” at every disagreement, it shows immaturity (most of you posters must be in your 20′s), it shows poor judgment, and it shows an appalling lack of consideration for respectful disagreement.
You are harming your own cause — it is making people mad. People that voted for Obama, but disagree with some of his ideas — and they way he has flip-flopped on several campaign promises are getting angry at being called racist.
It’s ridiculous, it’s a lie, and it’s an insult to anyone’s intelligence.
Posted by: jimj | September 3, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
DARE wasn’t a political agenda forced upon school children?
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DARE doesn’t come from the Federal Government, does it?
Things like DARE and various sex ed programs are definitely social engineering courses forced upon- or provided to, depending how you see it- school children.
Posted by: MayBee | September 3, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
2 out of 3 people agree that 4 out of 5 people disagree with 3 out of 4 people…
Posted by: stat-man | September 3, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
“Is prayer OK in parochial schools? Are parochial schools OK?”
Parochial schools are not public schools.
But given your attempt at deflection, you can see the rank right wing hypocrisy of demanding religious indoctrination while flipping out about a do good in school speech by the President.
Even if you won’t admit it.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
DARE wasn’t a political agenda forced upon school children?
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DARE doesn’t come from the Federal Government, does it?
Things like DARE and various sex ed programs are definitely social engineering courses forced upon- or provided to, depending how you see it- school children.
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 3, 2009 8:16:33 PM
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D.A.R.E., which has expanded globally since its founding in 1983, is a demand-side drug control strategy of the U.S. War on Drugs.
…wikipedia thinks there’s something to it.
Posted by: Questioner | September 3, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
“So who told you the fed was forbidden from being involved in curriculum.”
google “department of education prohibited from providing curriculum to the states”, and you will find a letter from the Deputy Secretary of the Departmen of Education (written after No Child Left Behind) that clearly explains the legal limits on the authority of the federal government to interfere with curriculum.
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
They will not allow God but they want you to allow Obama , When is Obama going to understand not everyone voted for him and most american’s see what he’s doing to our country that did vote for him have seen and heard enough . Trust is something that is really hard to get back if ever .
Posted by: Candobetter | September 3, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Dangerous, frightening stuff. Indoctrination of the young.
Posted by: Obama=Socialism | September 3, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
“”So who told you the fed was forbidden from being involved in curriculum.”
google “department of education prohibited from providing curriculum to the states”, and you will find a letter from the Deputy Secretary of the Departmen of Education (written after No Child Left Behind) that clearly explains the legal limits on the authority of the federal government to interfere with curriculum.”
That’s just sad, we can barely maintain a common level of intelligence. It just degrades into a shouting match between the faithful and the logical.
Posted by: Outrage | September 3, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Obama needs to realize that we don’t trust him any further than we can spit!
Stay away from our kids with your marxist indoctrination!
Posted by: Bob H | September 3, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
” Obama has never done anything in is life except get elected. ” — hold on sparky, for one thing he was a university professor of Constitutional Law. Now, GW Bush on the other hand, failed on multiple business ventures, was a drunk and a womanizer. Come on, take the tin hats off people.
Posted by: Rick_VT | September 3, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
” most american’s see what he’s doing to our country that did vote for him have seen and heard enough .”
Considering they didn’t vote for him, and they lost.. there may not be too much concern.
Posted by: Cru | September 3, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
google “department of education prohibited from providing curriculum to the states”, and you will find a letter from the Deputy Secretary of the Departmen of Education (written after No Child Left Behind) that clearly explains the legal limits on the authority of the federal government to interfere with curriculum.”
ROFLMAO!
A letter explaining that NCLB will not require the teaching of intelligent design!
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Rick_VT
It always turns back to Bush. He’s out of office. Get over it. Address the topic at hand. Youth indoctrination.
Posted by: obama=socialism | September 3, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
“They will not allow God but they want you to allow Obama”
Right wing hypocrisy.
Indoctrination is a’ok provided its right wing ideas that indoctrinated!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Posted by: Bridget | Sep 3, 2009 8:20:10 PM”
So are you an intelligent design pusher?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Turns out Green Jobs Czar Van Jones is a 9/11 truther. Maybe The One could get Van to address the nation’s school children.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 3, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
These right wing nuts are destroying our country. Gee I guess it was ok when Bush read My Pet Goat in school for a photo op. I mean that was propaganda. Then I bet they didn’t get their panties is a bundle when Reagan (their god almighty) spoke to school children and really spewed propaganda. The right wingers have really gone too far. They need to be locked up to protect the American people from harm. And the Mainstream Media needs to stop reporting this crazy crap. In fact just reporting this is right wind propaganda as far as I’m concerned.
Posted by: jabber2 | September 3, 2009, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
So will the teachers who show BO’s infomercial in their classrooms be allowed to expound BO’s political agenda on our children….
Posted by: vet1973 | September 3, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Just another example of Obama bringing the country together. LOL
Posted by: Charlie C | September 3, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
” Obama has never done anything in is life except get elected. ” hold on… Obama was a university professor teaching Constitutional Law. Now if you want to talk about GW Bush, he did nothing but fail in the National Guard, almost fail in college, fail in business ventures, drink and womanize before his venture into politics. Which actually has better credentials?
Posted by: Rick_VT | September 3, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
A small window of time set-aside for a school’s principal to speak to students about meeting the challenges of education and setting personal goals would NEVER be thought as anything but informative and beneficial; the notion that it could help a single child would be enough for most parents to support it. If I am to believe that a lack of support is anything other than a personal dislike of the president, then I will, at the same time, acknowledge that I am a fool.
I work everyday with schools (on issues of policy) where there in are achivement gaps that are in no way simply attributed to any one cause. Collectively, our children need to be helped, this gap needs to be eliminated, and (perhaps most importantly) individuals need to begin to address their racial biases and insecurities honestly so that they can be overcome. If not now then you must know that you will have to atone for it later. Lashing out and being overly emotional isn’t even a first step in the right direction but instead one giant leap toward century old misconceptions.
Posted by: T. Woodard | September 3, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Hope my kids don’t burst out laughing at this “speech!”
Posted by: Elle | September 3, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
“A letter explaining that NCLB will not require the teaching of intelligent design! ”
How convenient that you overlook this:
“Furthermore, both the Department of Education Organization Act and the General Education Provisions Act, include a similar, but broader rule of construction that applies to all Department of Education Programs, and which protects, among other things, against Federal control over curricula, programs of instruction, textbooks, and instructional material. 20 U.S.C. section 1232a, 3403″
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
“Obama has never done anything in is life except get elected. ” hold on… Obama was a university professor teaching Constitutional Law. Now if you want to talk about GW Bush . . . Which actually has better credentials?”
Exactly, but logic doesn’t matter to the extremist right. Obama is not a ‘good old boy’ and that is what allows them to spew such nonsense.
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Soon we will all Try to Remember What it was Like, when The U.S.A. was a free Country
Posted by: Wild One | September 3, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
julieterra, please try reading the material before trying to talk about it. It isn’t only about keeping kids in school and telling them to get good grades, it is about what they are going to do for him and his plans.
Posted by: honey92345 | September 3, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Mr Woodard: If I am to believe that a lack of support is anything other than a personal dislike of the president, then I will, at the same time, acknowledge that I am a fool.
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Am I correct in assuming you’ve read the Department of Education materials?
If there is no reason other than personal dislike for the president at play here, why do you suppose they changed some of the wording and called it “inartful”? Do they hate the president?
Is there really no room in your mind to entertain the idea that asking children to muse how the president will inspire them may not be the right educational message?
Posted by: MayBee | September 3, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
“So are you an intelligent design pusher? ”
Most certainly not. I am, however, an objector to WH aides getting a free shot at inculcating Obamalove into schoolchildren by drafting curriculum in violation of federal statutes. :)
Posted by: Bridget | September 3, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
“simple back to school address” ya right.. “simple” a NATION WIDE speech to our children that WILL be carried live by the Government run media outlets (right ABC)…. who will be swooning over how WONDER BO is for weeks after this infomercial airs…..this IS blatant partisan politics Using our children to push BO’s agenda..
Posted by: Vet1973 | September 3, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
obama=socialism – oh I am over Bush, very over him. Yet, I’m willing to bet the person that I was commenting on voted for him, attacked anyone that criticized him as anti-American, etc.
And by the way, obama=socialism, you know we have for years now had socialists in high government positions, highly respected men on both sides of the aisle. And you know what? The country hasn’t melted down because of them. Additionally, Medicare and Social Security ARE socialistic programs by the US government. Are you opting out of their benefits? I bet not.
Posted by: Rick_VT | September 3, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Obama wants to be adored by everyone including kids. The adults get their chance when he speaks to Congress. lol. I wish he would spend more time strategizing and less time worrying about his image to the public. It’s ridiculous and turning people off.
Posted by: Miranda | September 3, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
I say show it. My kids need more reminders to sneeze in their sleeves and keep their tires inflated! Will it be shown in all 57 states?
Posted by: Elle | September 3, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
I hope ALL parents keep ALL their children home that day.
Posted by: irishrose | September 3, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Only conservatives would think that the President encouraging kids to stay in school and take responsibility for their education and their futures is “socialist indoctrination.” I mean, we can’t have kids in school knowing how important it is to graduate and become productive members of society.
Man, the GOP just can’t take itself over that cliff fast enough, can it? Just think, if Obama tells people to vote in 2010, Republicans will probably stay at home just to spite him.
Posted by: Steve X | September 3, 2009, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Oh, my god. Obama is the President. I don’t care who the president is or what he believes, you teach your child to respect the office.
We as a country have to allow for his position as a leader, which god-willing includes outreach to the nation’s children. He is not the first president to do this, and I didn’t hear of anybody keeping their kids home out of fear of conservative indoctrination when GHW Bush did the very same thing.
He’s doing a “Stay in School, How You Can Serve Your Country and Be a Good Neighbor” public service announcement. This is an honorable endeavor, and we, a nation that has an over 30% drop-out rate, should be thrilled whenever someone encourages our kids to succeed.
Posted by: Elizabeth | September 3, 2009, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
If I had a kid, this would be a catalyst for withdrawing from the pub sys and enrolling in private edu. Granted, the CONTENT of the President’s speech most likely will be benign, but the ACT sets a potentially dangerous precedent. Whose to say that a leader in the future won’t follow in Obama’s footsteps but go further, taking advantage of the opportunity? I think it’s just best if education remained completely local, b/c then not vulnerable to such indoctrination. Feds should butt out.
Posted by: connor | September 3, 2009, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Barrack Obama is our President. This criticism prior to a speech from our President is disrespectful. Republicans and conservatives want the President of the United States, our President to disappear, to the extent that they want him to have no access to future voters, who are presently learning about respect and civility in government. These prejudging voices complaining about a logical and civil presidential speech are too shrill and smack of unamericanism. Mr. Obama is our President, including school children.
Certainly school students should have access to our Presidents counsel, the same as adults.
Posted by: Harry Schneider | September 3, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Hasn’t it become clear that many, if not most, Republicans simply can not abide a Democrat being President? The utter lack of simple respect towards a President of the United States is mind-boggling.
Do these Republicans know what they are doing to their country? Do they care?
Posted by: Lisa | September 3, 2009, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
I think this will be the issue that draws many people stronger behind the current President.
The absolute, over the top, nuttiness of this extremist claims will convince many people to give strong support to the President over the idiotic right wing media and their childish behavior and tantrums.
This one will bite back on the extremeists – an it’s about time.
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
One value I instilled in my family was common decency. When my son was in second grade, he was thrilled that the President (Reagan) was going to speak to his classroom. President Bush I also spoke to classrooms.
For the commenter who spoke about the Presidents appointments of Czars, please use google and you will discover that President Reagan was the first president to use this term.
Posted by: JL | September 3, 2009, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
“simple back to school address” ya right.. “simple” a NATION WIDE speech to our children that WILL be carried live by the Government run media outlets (right ABC)…. who will be swooning over how WONDER BO is for weeks after this infomercial airs…..this IS blatant partisan politics Using our children to push BO’s agenda..
Posted by: vet1973 | September 3, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
If Obama is such a ‘great example’ for our youth why didn’t the drop-out rates fall after last November?
The bit about ‘helping the president’ did not get taken out of his remarks until people caught on to his agenda.
If it wasn’t thought to be ‘inartful’ when it was proof-read why did it become so later?
Posted by: David Adams | September 3, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
If I had a kid, this would be a catalyst for withdrawing from the pub sys and enrolling in private edu. Granted, the CONTENT of the President’s speech most likely will be benign, but the ACT sets a potentially dangerous precedent. Whose to say that a leader in the future won’t follow in Obama’s footsteps but go further, taking advantage of the opportunity? I think it’s just best if education remained completely local, b/c then not vulnerable to such indoctrination. Feds should butt out.
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Go back and check your history. Presidents Reagan and Bush did this back in the 80s. This “precedent” was set years ago.
Posted by: Steve X | September 3, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
“When the president goes out to talk to students about education, this shouldn’t be a tool for the right wing.”
The right wing is made up entirely of tools.
Posted by: Rudy | September 3, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
I pledge my devotion to the great Obama.
He who must be obeyed.
Posted by: nuts for obama | September 3, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
We all know that the Teachers WILL make political comments to our kids…, especially the BO supporters…. so BO realy doesn’t have to say anything political… the Teachers WILL do it for him after his infomercial…….. what a plannnnn
Posted by: vet1973 | September 3, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
lets get moving
We need a good new slam for these guys …how about the “SCHOOLERS”
Those guys are crazy talking about politicizing the dept of education…real whack jobs…
Attack, ridicule and denigrate the messenger and the message will go away.
It worked on the “Birthers” despite the prez not giving up his college or birth records.cool work. Plus we don’t need to explain about Van Jones either…racists!
Ok everybody get on those keyboards and remember… Attack, ridicule and denigrate…and never never address the issues or facts…why should we? We won the election…get over it
Posted by: CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YA | September 3, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
” especially the BO supporters…. so BO realy doesn’t have to say anything political… the Teachers WILL do it for him after his infomercial…….. what a plannnnn”
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Oh yes, those evil, filthy Obama supporters.
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
I cannot believe anyone not wanting to have their children listening, encouraging them to stay in school to get an education; especially by the President of the United States; who by the way is very intelligent himself.
It must have something to do with the Republicans or Racism or both.
How come no one objected to R.Regan or GWBush’s speaking to school children.
Posted by: Marge Hill | September 3, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Quite simple really, put it in prime time so parents can watch it with their kids and decide if it is worth the kids watching. Then they can discuss it together! Making kids watch it any other way I don’t agree with!
Posted by: Ray | September 3, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
We probably shouldn’t even allow the President to address the nation anymore. It’s all propaganda. He’s evil and he’s from the planet Zoron. He wants to kill our grandmothers, and now hypnotise our children!
It’s propaganda!!!!!!!! Run for your lives!
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
I don’t have any problem with the president speaking to school age children about staying in school and getting a good education. Unless children go to school and learn, they will grow up be un-educated and vote for bad issues like the so called reform of health insurance. Our children like their parents need to be aware that if our president and the congress pass a new law mandating that everyone have the same insurance, then we are doomed, our children are stuck with a nightmare and if you recall in the movie “Logan’s Run” anyone over 29 had
To be done away with, our country’s population is getting a lot order and without proper education about what is right and wrong, we all face a society similar to Canada and England. Let the children listen.
Posted by: Michael Wilkins | September 3, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Marge Hill said “How come no one objected to R.Regan or GWBush’s speaking to school children” I’m sure if the internet had been prevalent during that time, there would have been plenty of objection voice so all could see. You just didn’t hear about the objections back then.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 3, 2009, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
I am appalled. WE elected this man. We sit around and do nothing to interject change in our world, but complain. If we disagree, we can discuss our family views, as a family. I’m thinking of the children. This may be their only chance to hear their president speak. See their BLACK president speak. It’s their turn.
Let’s really educate ourselves before we make important judgments. After all, from the little I’ve read, almost all political ideologies have at least some decent ideas. Could the solution be somewhere in the middle?
Posted by: agreen | September 3, 2009, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
“I suppose that Sabrina’s views are not untypical. I remember, long ago, when the right-wingers were the haters. Now we have left-wingers biting off the fingers of elderly gentlemen”
Strange that you keep telling this story without mentioning the elderly gentleman sucker punched and knocked the guy down who then bit off the finger thrust in his face.
Actually it not strange.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Kids are kids, he’ll sound like Charlie Brown’s teacher after 5 seconds. So who cares. I’m more concerned he’s going on national TV AGAIN. He already sounds like Charlie Brown’s teacher to me and I’m an adult! That’s not good.
Posted by: Miranda | September 3, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Allright, I am currently a student at a high school. My biggest question is what is the concern? Six schools are not going to show The President’s Address? Why is this? The President has every right to talk to the future generation of this country. Why do we want to deny the president his right? He’s our president. This is like telling The President that he can’t talk to Congress. If people really want this country to end up somewhere when they are elderly, they’ll stop talking about such a pointless issue and fix they’re attention to problems with other countries and the steady decline of people who are going to take initiative in this country. Don’t deny my right as a citizen and a student just because some ignorant people don’t know how to organize their priorities.
Posted by: The Victim? | September 3, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
“What state is this in?”
Lol. That’s classified information. We don’t want ACORN showing up — they’re party poopers!
Posted by: ceeLeelee | September 3, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
I don’t need the President to tell my children to stay in school & do his/her best. I have instilled that in my children from the day they were born. They are self-motivated to do the best they can.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 3, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
I want to know the locations of school districts refusing to air this. As an Illinoisan, I certainly want to know what school district in IL is refusing to air this speech, and I’d like to know if they intend to refuse federal monies.
Posted by: Kzbd | September 3, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
“Conservatives follow Martin Luther King teachings”
They do?
They believe in the government helping the poor?
They believe in equality?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
The clumsy part was the President admitting he needed help and was doing a lousy job I guess huh?
Posted by: guesswhaturwrong | September 3, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
The Victim: The President has every right to talk to the future generation of this country. Why do we want to deny the president his right?
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Really, the president has no such right.
Having said that, I wouldn’t ask our school not to play the speech. I don’t know if they are or not, but I’d do nothing to stop it.
Posted by: MayBee | September 3, 2009, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Posted by: julieterra | Sep 3, 2009 8:59:36 PM
On 9/8 Obama is going to address our children. On 9/9 Obama is going to address our crooks
Ahhh a speech to his administration on 9/9? That should be good lol!
Posted by: Ray | September 3, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
During the Soviet Union school children were always put in front of the TV when the General Secretary of the Soviet Union, Leonid Brezhnev, was speaking at the opening of the party gathering. Once his 1+ hr speech was over, the children were typically dismissed home to reflect themselves on such a historic event. This is a historic fact and you are welcome to make your own conclusions.
Posted by: H1N!Hysteria | September 3, 2009, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Let me let you in on a little secret:
When I wake up in the morning, I forget that I’m black until I begin interacting with others. Most of the time even then I forget unless it’s brought up.
I wonder if this is the case with others of all colors.
Posted by: Cru | September 3, 2009, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
And the idea that the president has a “right”, over parent’s wishes, to talk to their children is pretty scary.
But then, that was the kind of mindset I think the DoE materials was playing toward.
Posted by: MayBee | September 3, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
What stunning disrespect for the president of the United States from the right wing fringe… This is nothing but a continued attempt to try and deligitimize the duly elected president. Could you imagine if Bush did this and liberal parents complained? There would be screaming and hollering to the hilltops from the right about patriotism and whatnot! The fact is, the parents don’t want to have their kids see the president as a human being. After all, the kids might end up liking him! We can’t have that!
Posted by: Mike | September 3, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
That’s it. I wish you freaks on the far side of right sucking Fox as pure truth, buying the whole scary government thing, would just leave the country. I swore I’d never say this back, after so many of you said it to me when I complained about a war. But seriously. I’m sick of you. You’re stupid. You’re completely disrespectful. You’re ruining my country.
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
In response to MayBee:
The President has no such right? Since when? Doesn’t it declare right at the beginning of the Bill Of Rights, that every person is given the freedom of speech? Since when does The President not classify as a person? I’m not trying to argue with you, I’m just stating that The President can talk to any person anywhere in The U.S. because of that right.
Posted by: The Victim? | September 3, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
If you boycott this address, we will bite your fingers/hand out – ACORN, SEIU
Posted by: Freedom | September 3, 2009, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I know Reagan and Bush1 did them, but did Clinton and W do these speeches too? I don’t recall. If not I wonder why and if so why Obama decided to bring them back. Seems odd.
Posted by: Miranda | September 3, 2009, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
The President has no such right? Since when? Doesn’t it declare right at the beginning of the Bill Of Rights, that every person is given the freedom of speech?
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That doesn’t give you the right to have an audience.
Do you have a right to talk to the President of the United States?
Has he denied you that right?
Posted by: MayBee | September 3, 2009, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
“And the idea that the president has a “right”, over parent’s wishes, to talk to their children is pretty scary.”
During the Vietnam war, the President had the right to pull your kid into the military and send him to Vietnam!
President Bush hypnotized young people into attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. He and his administration did this by repeating lie after lie on television until Americans believed they were about to be hit by a nuclear weapon from Iraq.
THAT IS PROPAGANDA!
Where have you been? You’re afraid of the President making an address to students? How lame.
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
“First, my friend, you should educate yourself on history… the “1930′s fascism” you speak of rose from the LEFT.”
ROFLMAO!
While Mussolini was first a socialist, fascism is a right wing animal.
I know its embarrassing for the right wing to realize the extreme end of their ideology is bad.
But its the extreme end.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Wait a second Ryan C. No one knows what Oswald believed? Did he receive training at Liberty University … or was it Moscow?
You may call JW Booth a Confederate, but remeber he voted Democrat.
Posted by: Keith | September 3, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
I know Reagan and Bush1 did them, but did Clinton and W do these speeches too? I don’t recall. If not I wonder why and if so why Obama decided to bring them back. Seems odd.
Posted by: Miranda | Sep 3, 2009 9:10:36 PM
Because we have a chunk of the country getting sub standard education and living in homogeneous areas being sheltered from the reality of varying cultures through seclusion and ignorance.
Posted by: Questioner | September 3, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
julie- as I said over and over, I think the speech is fine. I have no problem with it being shown.
But really. The President does not have a right to have children watch him speak. Do you not see that as a frightening proposition?
Where is Fascist Hyena when he’s needed?
Posted by: MayBee | September 3, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
What a joke. Maybe that one sentence was worded wrong, but the overall message means well….like Bush never “mispoke”….C’mon. If you are in school and plan on making something of yourself, then the message, “Stay in School”, isn’t directed at you. Don’t take it personally. However, many students do need a push and they do look up to our President. I like to think of myself as someone in the middle. Both sides can get a little crazy at times, but the left is certainly more educated and don’t over-react like paranoid, ignorant rednecks.
Posted by: jdog | September 3, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Coherent 1 -
Not really. Lol.
Get over it. I’ve been black all my life and am not going to change because you don’t believe me.
There are many of us that did not drink the kool-aid. We’ve been kinda quiet about it – I guess you know the reason why!
Relly, there is no need for you to get mad and call people names because they dare to think differently.
As for what I wrote?
Well, it is what it is. :D
Posted by: ceeLeelee | September 3, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
These parents are teaching their children to disrespect the views of the President of the United States, and are censoring to boot. Aren’t we SUPPOSED to come in contact with a variety of viewpoints to better develop our own? Isn’t that what education is about? A sad day in America.
Posted by: sign seeker 17 | September 3, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Do you remember that marginalized, whacked out women who got up at one of McCain’s meetings to shiver out she was ‘scared’ of Obama because he’s ‘an arab’ or ‘a muslim’ or whatever it was?
That’s what the entire extremist right has become in America – shell-shocked, paranoiacs way out of touch with reality and willing to believe their own lies – the ones they feed each other to sustain their hate.
Now THAT is truly scary.
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
I teach in Maryland and my district isn’t allowing me to show this
Posted by: Raul | September 3, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Obama’s mistake was, once again, in overthinking everything! It had to be an “historic address,” as I believe they dubbed it. Forget that George Bush (the first one) did something really similar.
No, Obama, in order for it to be “historic,” had to have all these inane lesson plans about “what do you think the president is asking you to do?” and capturing direct quotes from the president, etc. etc. etc.
If he’d simply talked to the kids for 10 minutes about the importance of being in school he would never have had all these problems!
But no, Obama has to be “historic.” Yeah, he’s historic all right. An historic flop.
Posted by: liz | September 3, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
While President has the rights to speak, the citizens have the right of whether or not to listen. This speech was certainly not a part of the curriculum. If students decide to listen the speech after classes – let them do so.
Posted by: H1N!Hysteria | September 3, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
“Where is Fascist Hyena when he’s needed?
Posted by: MayBee | Sep 3, 2009 9:15:44 PM”
Surely he’ll have the talking point to counter that.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Ryan C: Facism and Communism BOTH embrace Socialistic, planned econiomies.
After that differences are minor:
Facism is nationalistic oriented with government controlling the economy through state control of phoney corporations.
Communism is international oriented with governemnt control of the economy through phoney worker unions.
Choose your poison. They’re both socialistic.
Posted by: Keith | September 3, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
DAINMEZRON (or whatever)
I could not let your comments slide. You are quoting stats on race so you must know sociology. While you are at it check this. Who was responsible for killing more blacks in the south from 1900-1965. And as for Conservatives backing MLK. He was beaten, imprisoned and killed. You are a fool.
Posted by: Anthony Dickerson | September 3, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Amazing. This Nations first Black President and the KKK states don’t like it. Looking forward to cleaning more republicans out coming the 2010 elections!
Posted by: rightbehind | September 3, 2009, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Whatever happened to calling it Federalism?
Posted by: Questioner | September 3, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
If Clinton and W didn’t do it, it was for a reason. Bringing it back seems unfortunately like a political move. Parents and schools should be free to decide what gets exposed to minor children. If Clinton and W did do it, I can’t see what the fuss is about then.
Posted by: Miranda | September 3, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
“Which of Mussolini’s policies were “right wing”? The notion that a bunch of elites should rule, promoting the State first and foremost?”
Exactly.
Nationalism is essential to the authoritarian side of the right wing.
Just like its essential to the authoritarian side of the left wing in communism.
Mussolini brand of fascism though was a little unique. Its had its own flavor just as German and Spain did. The same can be said of various Communist regimes.
The Doctrine of Fascism (also wiki)
” The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State—a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values—interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people. (p. 14)
Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognises the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade-unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonised in the unity of the State. (p.15)
Yet if anyone cares to read over the now crumbling minutes giving an account of the meetings at which the Italian Fasci di Combattimento were founded, he will find not a doctrine but a series of pointers… (p. 23)
It may be objected that this program implies a return to the guilds (corporazioni). No matter!… I therefore hope this assembly will accept the economic claims advanced by national syndicalism. (p. 24)
Fascism [is] the precise negation of that doctrine which formed the basis of the so-called Scientific or Marxian Socialism. (p. 30)
After Socialism, Fascism attacks the whole complex of democratic ideologies and rejects them both in their theoretical premises and in their applications or practical manifestations. Fascism denies that the majority, through the mere fact of being a majority, can rule human societies; it denies that this majority can govern by means of a periodical consultation; it affirms the irremediable, fruitful and beneficent inequality of men, who cannot be levelled by such a mechanical and extrinsic fact as universal suffrage. (p. 31)
Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere. (p. 32) “
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I will not let my grandkids participate in anything having to do with Obama. Just listen to his green CZar and you have the true Obama philosophy i.e. a Socialist/Marxist. I refuse to expose my grandkids to somebody like that.
Posted by: brian | September 3, 2009, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Why is ABC news avoiding the real reason for the parent’s objections to Obama’s speech. The “guidelines” sent out by the Education Department are the source for concern that the young people would be coerced into thinking the way Obama wants them to think. They are of an age that is very susceptible to peer pressure. They are not old enough to speak their own truth without concern for what their “friends” or “teachers” would think. SPEAK TO THEM, YES. FOLLOWUP WITH MATERIALS AND CLASS WORK, NO.
Posted by: Helen | September 3, 2009, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
I wonder what color the sky is in Mr. Obama’s world. Just another attempt by liberals to sway young children. There is something really wrong with this. This is not educational, it is political. My local school board better stand up for the citizens of my school district and refuse to participate.
Posted by: Survivor53 | September 3, 2009, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Ryan C: Sorry I can’t chat with you any more. — Married, 5 kids and a job
Typical Republican: raising kids to be tax slaves for the socialists.
Hope you have a nice life. Hope you believe that no cause is worth lying for. And hope sisters and brothers of all races can come together. Because people are good. Its the corrupt politicians that screw up everything.
Peace
Posted by: Keith | September 3, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Dayum Ryan C. I think I’m in love.
Posted by: Coherent1 | September 3, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
How incredibly obsurd it is for a parent to pull their child out of a classroom because the President wants to encourage students to do well in school at the begining of term. Their stance is not about politics, its about RACISM and republican conservatism!
The world is watching this shameful behavior right now. The world actually thought America had moved on from the 60′s. Apparently not.
Further, radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh are not helping matters. Infact, they are inciting hatred and division across America. Not becuase they care about politics, but because they are political satirists who get paid good money from broadcasters for what they do. If they cared, they would be running for office, not smoking a cigar after a show. Yet 14 million listener don’t understand the difference between satire and political engagement. Instead they follow these radio personalities like a cult follows a leader lie Jim Jones.
Wake up America, when a radio host compares the President to Hitler and people don’t flinch, you are in deep trouble. Start thinking and engaging in the issues yourself!!!!
This is the issue:
The president wants to encourage students to do well in school. That is the agenda, nothing else!
Posted by: Keith | September 3, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
“Ryan C: Facism and Communism BOTH embrace Socialistic, planned econiomies.”
Socialism is not necessarily a centrally planned economy like the Soviet model. In fact most socialist economic models are far from centrally planned.
The authoritarian nigh totalitarian natures of fascism and communism demand planned economies.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
If Clinton and W didn’t do it, it was for a reason. Bringing it back seems unfortunately like a political move. Parents and schools should be free to decide what gets exposed to minor children. If Clinton and W did do it, I can’t see what the fuss is about then.
Posted by: Miranda | Sep 3, 2009 9:28:48 PM
Personally, I don’t like the feeling of being in the dark about the cold war and the gulf war because I was too young and politics was “big people stuff”
The kids should hear it, go talk to their parents about it and make their own little informed decisions. 10 year olds don’t nod and agree with everything you tell them. Go try it.
Posted by: Questioner | September 3, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
“From the guy who spread the Ashley Todd hoax.”
Oh so Concerned is the guy who kept pushing that Ashley Todd thing during the election – shoving it in people’s faces to try to discredit Obama.
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
“Oh so Concerned is the guy who kept pushing that Ashley Todd thing during the election – shoving it in people’s faces to try to discredit Obama.
Posted by: julieterra | Sep 3, 2009 9:33:57 PM”
Yup and even after it came out that she faked it he claimed still posted about it.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
RyanC; so what you’re saying is that the Fascist-Socialist claim is an oxymoron? LOL!
Posted by: Coherent1 | September 3, 2009, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
This Country is becoming WAY hyper sensitive ! For our Pres. to want to encourage our children to stay in school and strive for better is an honor……I am a white, independent conservative..who feels it is sad we are such a thin skinned nation…..it is something to be ashamed of.
The left needs to chill, the right needs to REALLY chill….and our President needs to feel he is welcome to address our children. If we think they are so weak minded he will lead them astray…..we are really under-estimating our children.
Posted by: Scooter | September 3, 2009, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
“Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere. (p. 32) ”
Bears repeating.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
I think you guys should take them out and move to another nation.
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
If the president wants to encourage my kids to read, study, and do well in school, GREAT. I think we can all agree that the president is supposed to set the example. It’s when he is not concerned about setting an example that people should be worried. We should socialize clue-giving so everyone can get one for free.
Posted by: Laughing | September 3, 2009, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
If Clinton and W didn’t do this, I agree with the right wingers. I wouldn’t want any politician including the president to “talk” to the kids, it does seem politically motivated. I also want to add I thought it was gross when the Republicans were doing televised talks into churches.
Posted by: Miranda | September 3, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Add some Arizona districts pulling out of watching. Our district informed us today they wouldn’t be watching. Fortunately we have teachers who were not going to watch anyway. The kids are in school to learn, not listen to fantasy and make believe.
Posted by: JJ | September 3, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
“NAZI= National Workers Socialists.”
Because the Iraqi Republican Guard was full of Republicans.
I know right wingers are dumb but this argument is beyond stupid.
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 3, 2009 9:41:50 PM
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Quoted for truth.
Posted by: Steve X | September 3, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
in response to The Victim:
You say if The President wanted to, right now, go on live television and tell the world that he’s the boogeyman, don’t you think that they’ll let him do that?
Then we, as adults, can decide whether we want to watch it or not.
Children in school are basically a captive audience, and they would have to watch whether their parents approved or not.
That’s the difference.
Posted by: jana | September 3, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
“A man from Moveon.orgs area then walked over to the opponents and verbally confronted Rice, allegedly calling him names and acting aggressively, [Sheriff's Captain]Bonfiglio said.
“Rice later told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, Bonfiglio said.”
Why did Ryan not tell us about the confrotation described by the Sherrif’s Captain? Why did he not tell us that the elderly gentlemen felt threatened?
The lesson? Left-wingers lie.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 3, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Come on people! The President has every right to give an address to motivate students on their studies that local officials can decide to or not to show. There is no controversy about the President giving such an address.
May I also add, that there is no controversy if a County or school district or state decide on their own how to conduct their school day, including whether or not to show the address.
It is the right of the States in our dual-federal Republic to determine things like school day configuration and school policies, so long as they abide by equal protection.
Posted by: Joe C | September 3, 2009, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
No one should die because they cannot afford health care, and no one should go broke because they get sick.
Posted by: julieterra | September 3, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Don’t ask what can your country do for you, ask what can U do for your country. Basically same thing…?
Posted by: Kim | September 3, 2009, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
There is not a need for academic arguments. Obama is the truth and the light. Resistance is futile.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
If Clinton and W didn’t do this, I agree with the right wingers. I wouldn’t want any politician including the president to “talk” to the kids, it does seem politically motivated. I also want to add I thought it was gross when the Republicans were doing televised talks into churches.
Even if it is politically motivated, he has freedom of speech. The kids should go home and in a conversation with their parents have it told to them that what they experienced was “political” and then explain to them that people that engage in policy engage in politics.
You make of it what you will, using your powers of free speech. It’s a chance to educate them however you want to, not make crippled future citizens out of them when their first exposure to politics is civics class when they’re having senior skip days, flirting, driving, and otherwise distracted exploring late adolescence.
The reaction happening now is absurd. The parents that have their kids stay home are afraid that they themselves cannot form a rational argument to their own child.
Posted by: Questioner | September 3, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Obama (and Van Jones) know what is best for us. Resistance is futile. You will know the Truth on 9/9/09, when Obama will speak. 999 is 666 upside down or something.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
What could possibly be more sinister than the President encouraging children to get a good education? Doesn’t he realize that “no child left behind” by definition means no child can be permitted to get ahead? Imagine what would happen 20 years from now if all those children learned to think on their own. There wouldn’t be a dittohead left on the continent!!!!
Posted by: td | September 3, 2009, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
“The White House says it will release a copy of the text of the president’s address on monday so parents and educators can see that the message is entirely about learning, staying in school and taking personal responsibility” – where are they going to release this too? Monday is a holiday! Are they planning to release this through the media – as they will be unable to send it home through the schools – as there is no school on Monday!!!!!!!! Why hasn’t this been released prior to ONE day before this “so-called” keep kids in school address?
Posted by: Connie | September 3, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Everything the president says is political if it is intended to be political or not. His position makes it so. The presidents from the past who spoke to the very young students were also wrong. Even my favorite president Reagan was wrong when he did this. They were all criticized for this.
Obama takes that one step further with the additional documents and instructions.
The White House now admits that one of the lessons plans surrounding the speech was written clumsily, subjecting it to misinterpretation, and had to be re-written.
In plain language this means we got caught with our pants down.
What seems to be drawing the most ire are optional preparatory materials from the Department of Education asking students to “Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” This makes it clear that it was intended to be political from the beginning. This is not an oversight!
Heather Higginbottom, deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, said it was “inartfully worded.”"We changed it. The whole lesson plan speaks to setting goals in increasing their educational achievement,” she said.
“Inartfully worded” is another political term for “you caught us but we will rephrase it so that it is not that obvious”. If they really honestly mean what they say, they are extremely incompetent.
If I believe what they say, I am scared for the future of our country because of their incompetence.
If I do not believe what they say than I am scared for the future of our country because of the crooks in leadership positions.
I do resent any opportunity by either party to take a captive, young, very impressionable audience for political purposes. The minimum purpose of these speeches is to create goodwill for Obama. If the kids come home from school and tell their parents what a nice guy Obama is, some of the goodwill will rub off on the parents.
Do we now apply the “Fairness Doctrine” and give the conservatives an equal opportunity to make their impression on the children?
Posted by: Hubert E | September 3, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
The President wants to say something positive to our kids, and people want to protest this… Have people completely lost it or just plain ignorant?
Anything positive to help kids stay in school, get an education, and make something of them selves, is a good thing.
Maybe if the president told our kids to: Drop out of school, take drugs, get pregnant, or don’t bother being successful in life!!!
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ALRIGHT,WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
“The United States is currently 18th among the 36 nations.”
Posted by: deejay | September 3, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
I believe it was just a poor choice of words by the president’s advisors. But he has to be very careful, especially now. The enemies of Obama and his policies have “sharpened their knives” and are looking for any slip to pounce on. Obama can’t give them anything at all to work with. Now more than ever he has to be at the top of his game. He’s got to learn the lesson of the Clinton years: in the effort to regain their access to power and money, the BushGOPers will probe and pounce on any weakness or slip.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 3, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
deejay, do no fear. Obama will teach obedience.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
On November 14, 1988, Reagan addressed and took questions from students from four area middle schools in the Old Executive Office Building. According to press secretary Marvin Fitzwater, the speech was broadcast live and rebroadcast by C-Span, and Instructional Television Network fed the program “t o schools nationwide on three different days.” Much of Reagan’s speech that day covered the American “vision of self-government” and the need “to keep faith with the unfinished vision of the greatness and wonder of America” but in the middle of the speech, the president went off on a tangent about the importance of low taxes.
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Response to Concerned in OH: Turn off Fox News and take your meds. The date has nothing to do with it except that all the schools are back in session. Good grief!!!!
Posted by: td | September 3, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
This is SO disturbing to me. I have never been more ashamed to be an American in my life. I have NEVER seen such utter hate and disrepect for The President Of The United States
I bet EVERY school doing this had NO PROBLEM taking the Stimulus money.
EVERY PRESIDENT has addressed school children-this is no different. But hatemongers as usual turn something positive into something dirty, because their minds are filled with dirty, evil thoughts. We should be more upset that these folks have bred.
We are seeing outright fascism, hate and racism.
By causing a stir you have denied EVERY CHILD in these school districts the right to hear the President-NOT JUST YOURS. You’ve taken away OUR rights!
I wish every single one of you terrible people would be a GROWN UP and spew your nonsense while standing in front of the President. But instead you spew your mess behind the anonymity of a computer screen.
President Obama is a GOOD and DECENT MAN. He does not deserve this.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
You are teaching your children to hate and to disrespect their elders.
Don’t be surprised when they grow up and have no respect for YOU.
Posted by: texan | September 3, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
secondlook, Thank you for revealing the evilness of Reagan. Resistance is futile.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
We need to be rising above this,” said Higginbottom. “When the president goes out to talk to students about education, this shouldn’t be a tool for the right wing.”
LOL AS opposed to a tool for the left wing?
What a joke this administration is becoming. If it was a TV reality show it would be entertaining, as it is truly a REALITY is just sad and does not bode well for the future of uor country.
Posted by: formerdem | September 3, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Concerned in OH, really now? Who the freak cares? The point is, their ideology is based on lies, whether zero or 3/5. They are son’s of fools. They taught their children to hate and lie, now their kids hate and lie to them because they know how to make them tick. They were warned not to teach their kids hatred but they couldn’t get past their own personal angst of people who didn’t look like them. Then someone had the nerve to mate and birth you with that same foolishness.
Posted by: Coherent1 | September 3, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
flopez, I remain with a small sliver of hope. . . . . .
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
texan, Thank you. Obama will teach the children to be respectful. And your child will let him know if you. . . well you know.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
“Write letters to themselves”. What then, will the letters then be turned over to the school counselor? Is there red flag criteria? Will the letters subsequently be reviewed by a panel? What if the letters do not meet party approval and goals? I spoke to a gal in the rehab industry about this, she says it is one of the same methods used to help addicts be reintroduced into society. You know, as a productive citizen.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Why is a 9/11 Truther in Mr. Obama’s White House?
Who here will deny that Van Jones is an unacceptable left-wing goofball? What are we to think of the vetting process?
I am eager to hear from Mr. Jones’s defenders.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 3, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Ryan C, Obama condemns the Minutemen. He will let the children know how evil they are.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
What the radical right doesn’t seem to understand is that after they lost the election and the President was sworn in he became the President of all of us (as did Bush). The difference is that the left and moderates are primarily grown ups and the right remains a bunch of spoiled brats who didn’t get their way.
Posted by: td | September 3, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
td, you are correct. Obama will instruct the children as to how not to be spoiled brats. And he will assure the children that he won the election. . . and is the President.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Concerned in OH, Yes, Obama will tell the children to report on the parents that watch the imbeciles on Fox.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
“For this reason we have set before ourselves the task of inoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still un-perverted and therefore unspoiled.”
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 3, 2009, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Why the right is worried about children ratting out their parents for being imbeciles is beyond me. Bush recorded all their emails and phone calls for years so it’s well documented in the White House who has a brain and who doesn’t.
Posted by: td | September 3, 2009, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Concerned in OH, Obama will teach the children there are no “illegal immigrants” and there is “no war on terror.” And, of course, 9/11 was an inside job.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
‘The White House now admits that one of the lessons plans surrounding the speech was written clumsily, subjecting it to misinterpretation, and had to be re-written.’
so this is the ‘smartest president ever’ showing how inept and incompetent he and his socialist cronies are. Can he do ANYTHING right, for the benefit of the country as a WHOLE?
Posted by: john roumancik | September 3, 2009, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
I am a lifelong Democrat but I would have NEVER thought to keep my child away from ANY President Speech at their school.
I have raised my child in the American, old fashioned way. That once that inauguration is done whomever is elected is OUR COUNTRIES President and deserves the Respect of that office.
I even sent a get well message to President Reagan when he was shot. YOU RESPECT YOUR PRESIDENT.
You people are UN AMERICAN.
Remember your acctions today the next time you put your hand over your heart and recite that pledge of allegiance.
You have literally SPIT on our President with your actions.
Terrible, terrible, terrible.
Posted by: texan | September 3, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
td, Thank you. You will shortly receive an email commending your comment from the White House. Look for an email with .gov.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Obama needs to stay out of school. This is not part of the curriculum. They should not have to answer any questions concerning his speech. My children won’t be at school to listen to his BS.GFYBHO!
Posted by: Lulu | September 3, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I think it would be helpful if the goofballs here would let us know whether they hate (A) white people, (B) most white people, or (C) some white people.
By all means, goofballs, let us know where you stand. Show us you’re not really the cowards the majority of Americans think you are.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 3, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Jeez folks…He’s the PRESIDENT and he’s just trying to engage the young people.
If W had done this, you would not have seen Dems standing up and saying this is wrong and offensive.
Give it up Hatemongers.
Posted by: drobar | September 3, 2009, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
People are just stupid!
How could it be a bad thing to encourage our children to stay in school, get good grades and dream of being productive adults?
Posted by: Denise | September 3, 2009, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
What this backlash over a seemingly innocuous speech to school children suggests is that more and more Americans simply do not trust our president. The assumption, now, about everything he says is that he is lying or obfuscating to advance a far-left political agenda that he knows the American public opposes. Through his vicious attacks on ordinary Americans who simply disagreed with him on a policy issue, he has lost all credibility as a statesman with a plurality of the American people, and I honestly don’t see how he gets it back. Trust, once lost, is seldom regained.
Posted by: American Voter | September 3, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I sure some will say he didn’t, but Obama did pretty well in school. His schooling and raw intelligence got he to where he is; he family did not.
Because of this he is a good person to talk to students.
Posted by: Kenneth | September 3, 2009, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Kenneth, Obama is brilliant. That is why all is now well in the world.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
American Voter : The reason the people don’t trust the President is that over the past 8 years they learned that they couldn’t. Unfortunately they don’t realize that it was the man who was the problem, not the office.
Posted by: td | September 3, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Talk about UnAmerican! Here is the ELECTED President of the United States talking to children about self-responsibility, the very thing Republicans say they’re ALL about, and the conservatives and Republicans go nuts about how dare he speak to school children! What a bunch of disrespectful and treasonous losers! I hope true Americans will see this for political posturing and hateful racism it is! Despicable!
Posted by: mshare | September 3, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
All of you opposed to the President’s speech: If Bush had wanted to give a speech to children and Dems or liberals were making this much noise, would you support them? I wasn’t aware you wanted to raise your children as anarchists but by teaching them that the President should be feared, hated or ignored, that is what you are doing.
Posted by: Koshpeli | September 3, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Many if not most of us are aware that profit is gained through contrived drama.
There is money to be made when a subject of controversy is on the table.
There are also much greater advantages to be gained while everyone is engaged with one another in dispute.
Take into consideration that both media outlets and the commentators on these threads could be out for more than merely making a buck, or even in influencing your opinion.
You may merely be talking to many copies of one person, someone with no interest in logic, someone who wishes to infuriate you, or someone who seeks to further isolate you through polarizing your opinions of others.
Frankly, I’m concerned for you, whichever of you are actually individual open-minded citizens.
But, maybe that’s my own illusion, and I shouldn’t be trying to protect shadow puppets from themselves because they won’t listen anyway.
In perhaps a moment, vitriol will return to this thread regardless. But, food for thought: Perhaps you should question if it’s fabricated.
Posted by: Shrug | September 3, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Reflect09 : On 9/11 Dubya was reading “My Pet Goat” (and not very well at that). He wasn’t exactly “addressing” school children.
Posted by: td | September 3, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
flopez: You are way out there… It’s about kids staying in school & doing better in life!!!
I don’t think that’s brain washing.
All you Rush Limbaugh’s out there.
Paranoia Will Destroy Ya!!!
Posted by: deejay | September 3, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Wake-up. When the presentation is about the President and not the children, that is when people who have different opinions of a democracy need to protect their children from propaganda.Obama said, his kids are off limits, well the American people’s children should be off limits to his agenda. The parents should have the influence on their own children, not the government.
Posted by: KatieSue1985 | September 3, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
td, You are correct. Obama is not Bush. That is why we are doing so well in Afghanistan. Hoo rah. The FBI is investigating all of the crimes being committed daily by the Taliban. It will soon be a new cable show on TNT.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Ed-
so I guess every single President still living was trying to “indoctrinate” children since every single one of them spoke at schools.
Is a city mayor giving school kids tours of his office “indoctrination”
Is a volunteer from a charity organizing a food or penny drive at a school “indoctrination”
Is a speaker against drug use who have the children sign a anti drug pledge “indoctrination”?
You are taking something commonplace and simple and skewing it for your own twisted ends.
Posted by: texan | September 3, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
deejay, Rush Limbaugh is evil. His name should not be posted on the same post that Obama is being discussed.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Perhaps mr obama could ask the children to write letters in regards to protecting our Nation from enemies both foreign and domestic.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Can we have a Truther in the White House?
Yes We Can!
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | September 3, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
texan, You keen logic and lucid thinking is surely worthy of approval by Obama. The children will proudly quote you.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
All I can say is if you radical right wingers don’t want the President to encourage your children to work hard and get as good an education as they can that maybe you will. Tell them if they don’t they could grow up to be an immature whiner who’s afraid of everyone who did get a good education .. like you are. That’ll convince them.
Posted by: td | September 3, 2009, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Wake-up. When the presentation is about the President and not the children, that is when people who have different opinions of a democracy need to protect their children from propaganda.Obama said, his kids are off limits, well the American people’s children should be off limits to his agenda. The parents should have the influence on their own children, not the government.
Posted by: KatieSue1985 | Sep 3, 2009 10:28:45 PM
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…You do. You tuck them in and talk to them every day… OR DO YOU? ಠ_ಠ
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
The first speech he makes gets his “foot in the door”. Wake up you BO lovers…it’s all the other speeches I’m worried about. The ones that start out “be good, stay in school”. Then the next one is “love President”, then “serve your President”, then “do exactly what your President asks and tell us where your parents are”. Oh yeah…I trust him-NOT. This man has lied from the very beginning, and I can’t believe you’re not seeing this. He should LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!!!!
Posted by: Jane | September 3, 2009, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Hopefully the message did change after people read the lesson plans, saw the questions and heard the political propaganda video played to the children in Utah. I am glad people spoke up, so he’ll change the message from him to the children. However, I don’t blame people for not trusting what the message will be. We have never had commuist czars and radicals in a President’s administration before. Parents are uncomfortbale and their child are their responsibility.
Posted by: KatieSue1985 | September 3, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
On November 14, 1988, Reagan addressed and took questions from students from four area middle schools in the Old Executive Office Building. According to press secretary Marvin Fitzwater, the speech was broadcast live and rebroadcast by C-Span, and Instructional Television Network fed the program “to schools nationwide on three different days.” Much of Reagan’s speech that day covered the American “vision of self-government” and the need “to keep faith with the unfinished vision of the greatness and wonder of America” but in the middle of the speech, the president went off on a tangent about the importance of low taxes.
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
I like the idea of a president who when he makes mistakes, admits them and corrects them. For 8 years we had a president who made ever worsening mistakes, never admitted mistakes, never apologized, never adjusted. He was a president who acted as if he were above the law. And now people are talking about totalitarianism, and dictatorship??! Where were you jokers during the Bush/Cheney Reign of Error? I know you want Obama to fail, but he is the president of every American. So get over it.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 3, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
td-You obviously know nothing of Developmental Psychology.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
ಠ_ಠ |, Yes, Obama says, “tuck em if they can’t take a joke.”
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
My concern is that the children would realize that it is ok to remake themselves to suit your dreams just by hiding your past. Obama has refused to release anything from his past, not bith records, not school records, not medical records not anything. We know only what he wants us to know. I say the man is a fraud and should not be allowed near schools. Call me names, yell but I challege anyone of you to prove me wrong with hard written evidence. Until you can dothat I will continue to say, “OBAMA IS A FRAUD”.
Posted by: 1post3 | September 3, 2009, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
td-Neither does obama.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Some American parents are truly stuck on stupid. My first question to parents who are rejecting a Presidential address to school age children is: What is the name of the last book you read? If the answer is none or you can’t quite remember, please take this suggestion, read The World Is Flat, by Thomas L. Friedman.
Our nation, which was once number one in almost every category, now it has slipped beyond the position of mediocrity. When both the average high school and college graduate can’t write a decent well constructed letter, we had better look for leadership from someone like the President of the United States, to help young students think, reason and act on their fresh developing minds. After all President Obama, attended Harvard University, was President of the Harvard Law Review and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.
Posted by: M Lee | September 3, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
As Thomas L. Friedman, refers in section eight of his book: The Quiet Crisis
• The National Science Board reports that the number of Americans 18 – 24 years old who earn science degrees has fallen to 17th in the world, when we used to rank #3 three decades ago. Case in Point: 22% of NASA workers are 55 or older. NASA employees over 60 outnumber those under 30 by a ratio of about three to one. In engineering specifically, universities in Asian countries now produce eight times as many bachelor’s degrees as the United States.
• America was once ambitious and we strove to be the very best. The requirements of a good education to get ahead and stay competitive are always growing, yet many American’s wonder why they aren’t qualified for high paying jobs. Mr. Friedman calls this the “American Idol Problem.” This can be compared to the reaction of contestants when Simon Cowell tells them they have no talent, yet they look at him in total disbelief.
• Thirty years ago many of the biggest employer’s were manufacturing plants and today it’s a medical center or a technology hub. The handwriting is on the wall, higher education math and science is the key. Without it low skill level jobs compete on a global basis and off-shoring of jobs will continue to be the winner.
The challenge begins early in life and preparation begins at the same time. If we as Americans are going to close the creativity, education, employment, wealth and healthcare gap, we must begin with our young in middle school to equip them with the foundational skills, so when it’s their turn to lead in the year 2020 and beyond they will be prepared. The President of the United States is the most powerful man on the earth, if he can motivate young people to think, reason and act creatively, I say yes! When America wins, the world wins; but if America looses, we all loose regardless of race, creed, color, religion or party affiliation; no matter how you view it, last will always be last.
Posted by: M Lee | September 3, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
hopespring52, Yes, Michelle laughs at Obama all day long. She knows him better than we do.
Posted by: flopez | September 3, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
That’s right….Study hard in school, work hard in life, make alot of money so the government can take a big chunk of it away & give it to those that don’t study or work hard.There’s your message kids!!!
Posted by: Todd | September 3, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
If they’re stupid enough to pull kids out of school to avoid watching Obama or the school district is that dumb, let them go ahead. They probably don’t value their kid’s education very highly anyway.
I know I would never have allowed my kids to skip school in order to avoid watching Bush “talk” directly to them. I would have let them know in no uncertain terms what an idiot I thought he was, but I would have made sure they were sitting in that classroom the rest of the day learning from their teachers.
Posted by: jan | September 3, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Until you can dothat I will continue to say, “OBAMA IS A FRAUD”.
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HEY EVERYBODY THAT GUY’S A PHONEY! PHONEY!!
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Honestly, I cannot believe any parent is against the president encouraging children to focus on their education. I think republicans just want something to complain about. When I was in 7th grade teachers in my school let classrooms full of kids watch the OJ Simpson verdict- are you kidding me that you don’t want the President sending a positive message because it will “brainwash” the kids…how about have a discussion with your kids about it if you’re so worried. The republicans never did a good job addressing children so give it up.
Posted by: Tdmarie | September 3, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
First, the day of the week Tuesday is capitalized.
Next, when referring to the President of the United States; President is always capitalized.
From reading these posts, it seems a few people could use some lessons in Language Arts. My kids are home schooled and I am scheduling this speech in with their school work. President Obama is the President of the United States. I didn’t vote for him. I didn’t vote for the George Bush’s either but I’m still here and freedom is still ringing out.
Posted by: Kyle Cameron | September 3, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Ed | Sep 3, 2009 10:25:27 PM – That is real good Ed. Besides Regan and Bush addressing school students, you list Hitler and the ancient Greeks.Isn’t it interesting that only two republican Presidents successful at what Hitler and ancient Greeks. I don’t remember democrat parents hold their kids out of school for fear that their kids weren’t strong enough to respect the president without having to agree with everything he said. It is too bad republican parents don’t have more faith in their kids to show respect to the President of the US and still disagree.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | September 3, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
I want to screen what this disciple of Saul Alinsky plans to say to my child.
Posted by: carl | September 3, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
That’s right….Study hard in school, work hard in life, make alot of money so the government can take a big chunk of it away & give it to those that don’t study or work hard.There’s your message kids!!!
Posted by: Todd | Sep 3, 2009 10:38:48 PM
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If you really were paying attention kids, it won’t be your money we’re taking away. You’ll know well enough how to deduct from your taxes, or hire someone who can anyway. But somewhere along the way, someone will teach you to feign outrage over it for political gain!
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
what is world has happened to this country when the President of the United States wants to encourage our children to be diligent in their studies and it is somehow considered controversial. I certainly didn’t agree with President Bush on a whole host of issues but I didn’t believe he was so evil that I had to protect my children from the sound of his voice. The country has gone insane.
Posted by: pam | September 3, 2009, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Arne Duncan was the head of the chicago public schools and their graduation rate was less than 50%. This
is not about indoctrination to socialism; it’s about politics, votes, photo & video ops,. However, who ever wrote up the so-called lesson plan (Emmanuel? Axelrod? Duncan? Jarret?: notice the Chicago connection)is an idiot
Posted by: illinoisvictim | September 3, 2009, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Bush, the younger and Ronald Reagan both addressed the country’s school children, for the same reason as Obama. That is to inspire them to work harder in school and to pursue their educations with vigor, because education is the last great hope for civilization. It is education that elevate reason over violence. The commenters who are objecting to Obama addressing America’s school children are at best brazen political partisans and at worst hypocrits. They are objecting to Obama a Democrat, because of his political party. If the tables were turned and people were object to Reagan (who I admired) or Bush (who I detested), then they would doubtlessly be calling the protesters ‘unpatriotic’ or ‘anti-American’.
Posted by: John Kendrick | September 3, 2009, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Kids are very perceptive. If their parents try to shelter them from Obama they’re going to think their parents are afraid of the President, while many of their peers are not. It’s weak. It will only make them more curious about him.
Posted by: Skip | September 3, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
“…but I didn’t believe he was so evil that I had to protect my children from the sound of his voice. The country has gone insane.”
Do not question it Pam!
His voice can clearly SHATTER MINDS!
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Really, if you people are going to cite historical evidence, you should learn some history. No radicals in the White House before? Oh?
Let’s see: Washington (a revolutionist who overthrew a King), Adams (a revolutionist who overthrew a King), Jefferson (a revolutionist who overthrew a King), Lincoln (who invented the strong federal Army and created the first draft), FDR, who created Social Security and a slew of other SOCIALIST programs, Johnson, who created Medicare and a slew of other SOCIALIST programs….
Face it, you people hate all Socialists, especially the ones that threaten your MEDICARE and SOCIAL SECURITY, which take more out of my check every month than taxes (and 40% of those go to the military). Seems to me, you’re the true Socialists, and you don’t want to share the pie I’m paying for.
Posted by: John Locke | September 3, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Don’t get your panties in a bunch. Most of you that write in are too worried about someone trying to take over your children. He’s the President of the US, like it or not. I bet if it were Bush speaking, I would hear cheers of pure joy, and he was one of the worst presidents out there. “Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice…well, You can’t fool me again!’ What an idiot. America doesn’t deserve change because America is too scared. America is too paranoid and fears change. Grow up people. There isn’t anything wrong with what Obama is doing. Some of you just need therapy…
Posted by: YouWorryTooMuchIn09 | September 3, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
“what is world has happened to this country when the President of the United States wants to encourage our children to be diligent in their studies and it is somehow considered controversial.”………… Fox happened. Glen Beck happened. Far right radio and Limbaugh happened. Hannity happened. . . .
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Many schools are considering an opt out for that day so I guess they’ll just get a long weekend off. lol
Posted by: Grover | September 3, 2009, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
If a President wants to address our children about how important education is, wouldn’t you think he should lead by example.
What he has done in this administration by his actions has shown us that if you do work hard, save your money, and maybe even start your own business government is just going to take a good percentage away from you to help those that don’t want to work. Sounds fair, right?
I know this is a cynical viewpoint, but I am sick and tired of this piddly crap and this administration doing stupid things.
What Obama should be doing is addressing unemployment, the fraud & waste of Medicare/Medicaid programs, working on a comprehensive health care reform bill, working on getting our country back on it’s feet.
Sometimes it’s as if the only thing this administration wants to do is to cause dissention within our country. Some example Mr.President and you wonder why people are concerned about you addressing our children.
Posted by: CJ Dean | September 3, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Monday is labor day and no one will be laboring, how will the parents and school read the text to make a decision?
Posted by: Grover | September 3, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
I don’t resist the White House for appealing to the most sensible & most educated in most of these homes claiming outrage: The children attending primary & secondary schools.
Most children are honest, many better informed and worldly (thanks to the internet and integrated schools) than their parents. They are interested in the sustainability of the U.S. –interested in their future. That’s why so many worked the campaign to help elect President. During various canvassing pre- election, in conservative neighborhoods with staunch Republicans, I met many teens who in confidence told us they did not agree with closed-minded conservative ideas.
The children are the future.
Posted by: a teacher | September 3, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
So keep your kids home if you’re afraid of Obama. Their friends at school can fill them in on all the forbidden things he said.
Posted by: Skip | September 3, 2009, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
What Obama should be doing is addressing unemployment, the fraud & waste of Medicare/Medicaid programs, working on a comprehensive health care reform bill, working on getting our country back on it’s feet.
Sometimes it’s as if the only thing this administration wants to do is to cause dissention within our country. Some example Mr.President and you wonder why people are concerned about you addressing our children.
Posted by: CJ Dean | Sep 3, 2009 10:55:51 PM
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Sometimes it’s as if causation is confused with effect. How does anything get done when his first breaths are under protest?
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Let me put it this way can I keep my children home so they can listen to this speech without them being AWOL?
Posted by: hellian | September 3, 2009, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
flopez | Sep 3, 2009 10:29:02 PM – “You are correct. Obama is not Bush. That is why we are doing so well in Afghanistan. Hoo rah” No wonder you are so mixed up. You don’t even know recent history. Terrorist from Afganistan took down the WTC and Bush and all took us to war as he should have. He did a great job the first six months. Then he decided it was more important to build a democracy in Iraq and took the troops there. We slowly lost control of Afghanistan during the next seven years. Finally Obama became President and starting putting more troops in Afghanistan to try to complete what Bush never accomplished. And keep in mind that this was a war where only the troops and their families sacrificed for the war effort while President Bush gave the rich a take break. Bush did a good job in some areas, but the war in Afghanistan was not one of them.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | September 3, 2009, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Thank Jesus for President Obama. He reaches out to all sectors of the population in his efforts to address the social good necessary to continue being the United States.
The children are proud of their country and President Obama. and so am I!
Posted by: Aunty Clara in Arkansas | September 3, 2009, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Maybe if we have more kids finishing school and furthering their education we will have less people living off of the government in the future. Look at the big picture people. Come on higher level thinking.
Posted by: Esther C, | September 3, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
hellian-Good idea, I would not want my children listening to a man I have never met.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
If a President wants to address our children about how important education is, wouldn’t you think he should lead by example.”
Posted by: CJ Dean | Sep 3, 2009 10:55:51 PM
So let me get this straight: in your mind, the son of a single mother who grew up in modest circumstances, went to Harvard Law school where he became the first Black president of the Harvard Law review, then became the first Black president of the Untied States is NOT setting the example as to how important education is?
If you don’t mind me asking, on what street corner can I buy whatever it is that you’ve been smoking? The weekend is coming up and I need to “relax.”
Posted by: Steve X | September 3, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
I’m facinated by any thought that involves school districts in our country being forward thinking or politically astute. That is laughable. I might be interested in President Obama’s address to school kids, but I’ll wait for the printed version. If anyone thinks school officials are in-touch leaders, think again, after you look into the greater Atlanta, GA school systems. I am sure there are others equally incompetant.
Posted by: Richard | September 3, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
I think anyone with any sense knows how important staying in school is so why all the hub bub about this speech if that’s all it is and THAT IS ALL IT IS A SPEECH ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT STAYING IN SCHOOL IS. DOES THIS NOT SHOW PEOPLE WHAT THIS REALLY IS ALL ABOUT.WHEN THE SCHOOL IN OUR DISTRICT TAUGHT MY CHILD ABOUT JESUS AND MOSES ALONG WITH OTHERS FROM BIBLE STORIES,THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN ON FAITH ALONE, I HAD NO CHOICE IN THE MATTER IT WAS IN THEIR TEXTBOOKS
Posted by: hellian | September 3, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
I would of been proud of my children to hear the President speak. I would of love it as a child that if my President (Democrat or Republican) had taken the time to speak to us, I would of been honored. What upsets me is the closed minded attitude of the parent’s; to me the question that seems to be upsetting the Republicans, is taken completely out of context and with a closed mind. The question to me is what can the student’s offer the President in way of ideas that could help him be a better President? What I am seeing is the lack of education, closed minded attitude and yes Racism still at the core to this. I would bet you $10.00 that the six states are deep red states that still contrary to what they like to say, fear of education in any forms but their own indoctrination runs deep. Would they have done the same if the President was a white man and a Republican somehow I think not. I allow my children to see all sides of the coin and a Liberal Arts Education is a strong part of that. I’m sorry that people are afraid and can’t even trust their children to an experience that could only help round their children out educationally. Shame on American and our Educators as well. By the way I didn’t vote for President Obama so you can’t call me Democrat.
Posted by: K.McClure | September 3, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Sometimes it’s as if causation is confused with effect. How does anything get done when his first breaths are under protest?
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | Sep 3, 2009 11:01:16 PM
I understand your sentiment here, but my problem with this administration is that their plans don’t seem to be thought out. The intent is good, but the follow through stinks because their plans have no substance to back them up, no specifics. It’s like a fairy tale half the time, it looks good..sounds good.. but how exactly does it work .. ah magic.
We needed change in this country, unfortunately for change to happen you have to be able to back up what you say. You have to be able to prove what you say. So far, all I’ve heard are promises that they know what they are doing but no specifics. Sorry, but I need the specifics.
Posted by: CJ Dean | September 3, 2009, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
My point is learning about God ,Jesus and others should be taught in the context of church not schools.I was disappointed when the Lords prayer was discontinued, because that I believe should have been left alone,If someone did not believe they did not have to say the prayer,but when something is put in text books as fact when nothing has shown it is fact just your faith that it is true.Well that is a very big difference.Now that to me is the evangelical right trying to force their views on our children.
Posted by: hellian | September 3, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Kyle Cameron… your post was a breath of fresh air. I applaud your respect for the office of the President of the United States.
Posted by: Andy | September 3, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
I was shocked to read in the Economist how Hugo Chavez is doing something very similair with schools and universities in Venzula to make sure he can shape the young minds as soon as possible. Long live Chavez is his creed. Is obama doing the same???
Posted by: scott jeffries | September 3, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
will Obama mention that because he doesn’t trust the public school system that he sends his children to an elite, expensive private school? Or that while he agitates for an Orwellian centralized databases containing ALL your personal information in the guise of health care reform that he, and other politicians, won’t be subject to it? I realize that leaders in the past often used youth brigades and the public school system to indoctrinate- so it is not like Obama has new ideas- but still I question why parents, local school boards, and teachers aren’t informed exactly on what propaganda will be mentioned in the school kid address!
Posted by: Ed | September 3, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Yes! keep the kids scared and away from books and education! Keep them away from anything that may comprimise the wealthy from making their profits at the expense of the poor and middle class. Keep them away from science and literature! all those scary things that make inquisitive minds ask questions! Keep them away from smart, sensible caring people of color!
Why won’t the GOP bring out the terror- alert- color wheel again? I miss that terribly. We whites all felt much more secure as a country when everyone was scared, manipulated and questioning the theory of evolution.
Posted by: fanny | September 3, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
What is wrong with all these offended parents, so opposed to having our President speak to their children??
If it was Bush who was going to speak to them, then I’d be very concerned. As a single mother of three teenagers, one of whom is to attend one of the top 10 universities in the country and who graduated high school in the top 3% of her class, I’d be very afraid that they would walk away from it learning words like nucular instead of nuclear, or decider instead of decision-maker. I’d be afraid that they would learn that all those brown-skinned people with funny sounding names were evil, or that invade and kill first and ask questions later, or that our Constitution is not worth the ink it was written with.
I will be honored to have a man like President Obama speak to our children. A man who can not only speak correctly, but intelligently and with common sense. A man who can inspire a generation to action. If a single child from an impoverished home, with a working single parent on a limited income listens to him speak and walks away from that speech thinking….he did it. He came from a single mother who worked so hard to give him every opportunity and he took that opportunity and has given so much back to his community and to his country, then why not me??? I will try my best and stay in school and learn as much as I can and try my best to be the best, then I too can be someone important to my country, to my community.
If one single child walks away with that, then our President was successful. And for that, I applaud him for this endeavour. We should all as parents of this country’s future applaud and support him, regardless of our political leanings. He was elected by us, the American people, to be our President and as such should be respected. You may not like what he stands for, but he is our President. What are you teaching your children when you disrespect the President of the United States. For shame on those who do.
Posted by: Carolina | September 3, 2009, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
hellian-No Preacher is allowed to address your children at school via the net. Why should this one be allowed?
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
It’s quite unfortunate what’s going on in this country right now with the health care debate and now a debate about the President addressing the children of this country, about the importance of staying in school, performing to the best of their ability and higher education. What in the name of all that is sacred are “some” people so upset? And as a white person, the majority of the anger I see is coming from very evil, devilish looking whites. Why are some of you so mean spirited? Was it taught? Are you teaching it to your children and your grandchildren? Why all the anger toward this black President? You better get over because he is the President and will probably get re-elected another term so those of you who are hating are wasting your time. Love and Peace to those who hate, Give Peace a chance..
Posted by: michelle | September 3, 2009, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
CJ Dean | Sep 3, 2009 10:55:51 PM
said “What he has done in this administration by his actions has shown us that if you do work hard, save your money, and maybe even start your own business government is just going to take a good percentage away from you to help those that don’t want to work.” What are you talking about? Since when did all hard working American recieve good wages. Many hard working American work two jobs and still pay a larger % of their income than the rich company managers that need to play golf with other rich managers during company time. And many of these rich managers have to go to first class resorts on the company dime to have meetings and brag about what they have done. Many hard working Americans take very little time off and have to pay for their own vacation. Many of these rich Americans got tax breaks while our war debt kept climbing higher. It was the working class that provided their sons and daughters to fight the wars.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | September 3, 2009, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Posted by: Steve X | Sep 3, 2009 11:06:40 PM
I grant you the man has done a lot for himself and if circumstances were different, I probably wouldn’t have a problem with him addressing our kids.
As it stands, our country has serious problems that need his attention more than addressing our children about the importance of staying in school. Knowing that he would cause a controversy.
Posted by: CJ Dean | September 3, 2009, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Im so sick and tired of people talking down on the President. I wonder if you were in his shoes how good of a job you would do. Its funny how people always look for the bad in person, and thats sad. He can only do so much at a time give him a chance. Thats why our people never make it to the top because we don’t support one another.
What do you think he can possible say wrong about education. He has kids of his on. PEOPLE GROW UP please.
Everyone supproted the last President and look where that got us. You put your trust in all the wrong people.
I’ll pray for you all.
Posted by: DeDe | September 3, 2009, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Sometimes it’s as if causation is confused with effect. How does anything get done when his first breaths are under protest?
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | Sep 3, 2009 11:01:16 PM
I understand your sentiment here, but my problem with this administration is that their plans don’t seem to be thought out. The intent is good, but the follow through stinks because their plans have no substance to back them up, no specifics. It’s like a fairy tale half the time, it looks good..sounds good.. but how exactly does it work .. ah magic.
We needed change in this country, unfortunately for change to happen you have to be able to back up what you say. You have to be able to prove what you say. So far, all I’ve heard are promises that they know what they are doing but no specifics. Sorry, but I need the specifics.
Posted by: CJ Dean | Sep 3, 2009 11:11:10 PM
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Part of Obama’s problem is that he’s relying on the Republicans and Conservatives to meet him halfway. Instead they dig in their heels and start lobbing insinuations about his intentions and character.
Everyone gets caught up in this, instead of pressing conservatives to show REAL leadership and make Obama’s original idea palatable.
We end up getting a completely counter offer that doesn’t resemble the original offer at all. No one can agree because they’re not on the same page, let alone the same book.
Would you rather he always had every single answer to every problem laid out in rigid detail so that we could spend years picking apart each piece before eventually giving up in frustration?
Or worse, would you rather have him lay out so detailed a plan that the right simply plays ball by bringing it to the center, loading it with pork and both of them leave hand in hand laughing?
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Posted by: Reflect09 | Sep 3, 2009 11:06:33 PMhellian-Good idea, I would not want my children listening to a man I have never met.
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? Especially difficult would be listening to a very well educated black constitutional law professor, holding in the nations highest office and position, talk about our needs and goals of the nation.
Posted by: Don't teach the young to use their minds | September 3, 2009, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Totally rediculous. The conservatives don’t mind having theocracy thrown at the kids by the likes of Pat Robertson, but heaven help us if they get encouragement to stay in school, study hard, and become productive citizens of the United States.
Sounds like someone is afraid of freedom of expression (1st Amentdment), but don’t dare suggest that carrying guns to town halls and in national parks might not be appropriate. That’s a no no.
Posted by: George | September 3, 2009, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Most parents aren’t upst that Obama wants to speak to the kids. It’s because it all boils down to Obama and his administration’s desire to be praised and even worshipped. The letters those kids were to write said it all – What can I do for the PRESIDENT. What can they do for the President – how nice – what about what can they do for their families, their communities, the country and the world. But no – it’s all about Obama – that’s what’s wrong with this picture.
Posted by: M. Sheldon | September 3, 2009, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
“On November 14, 1988, Reagan addressed and took questions from students from four area middle schools in the Old Executive Office Building. According to press secretary Marvin Fitzwater, the speech was broadcast live and rebroadcast by C-Span, and Instructional Television Network fed the program “to schools nationwide on three different days.” Much of Reagan’s speech that day covered the American “vision of self-government” and the need “to keep faith with the unfinished vision of the greatness and wonder of America” but in the middle of the speech, the president went off on a tangent about the importance of low taxes.”
Posted by: secondlook | September 3, 2009, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
This is a challenge for we who strongly respect the office of the president and strongly disagree with his policies. In this politically charged environment, this doesn’t feel like a “fireside chat.” We certainly don’t agree with where he wants to take the country, and want to protest his efforts to subtly sway our kids to his direction. On the other hand, we do want to respect his office and his role. For my wife and I, we’re still trying to figure out the right middle path.
Posted by: Greg Wingard | September 3, 2009, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
…addressing our children about the importance of staying in school. Knowing that he would cause a controversy.
Posted by: CJ Dean | Sep 3, 2009 11:21:45 PM
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You seem as though controversy is reason to preclude action. There are a lot of problems at hand, you would agree. Education does well to prevent them from occurring once more.
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Don’t teach-Blackberry, Google, Teleprompter, etc.. “Use their minds”, Yea. In Academia that is called an Intelligent Underachiever”. Yea.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
If Obama was thinking, he would have mandated that states that take stimulus money must show his speeches whenever he desires.
Posted by: Me | September 3, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
“The White House now admits that one of the lessons plans surrounding the speech was written clumsily, subjecting it to misinterpretation, and had to be re-written. ”
It’s not clumsiness. It comes about from a mindset that’s trapped in the bubble of Obama-the-great adulation, unable to comprehend that other people might have a different point of view. OF COURSE the writers of the lesson plan saw nothing wrong with it. They simply could not imagine that other people might think differently. An astounding lack of self awareness on display.
Posted by: PD | September 3, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | Sep 3, 2009 11:21:43 PM
So then you agree with this administration’s ideals then about evening out the wealth. Well the way things are going you will get your wish.
I’ve worked hard, been a single mom, scrimped, saved to buy my house and keep it. I’m sick and tired of all the govt crap about the poor unfortunates and how we should help them out.
Small business owners don’t make the money your talking about. The business owners I was referring to are your mom & pop shops; the neighborhood cafe, your local barber, etc. not corporate greed America.
There is an e-mail going around call ‘LETTER FROM THE BOSS’ read it if you come across it. Maybe then you might have a better perspective of those who really did fight to have a business, not just want someone to give them a handout.
Posted by: CJ Dean | September 3, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
This gets worse with each new President. Clinton could do nothing right after about three years. Bush could do nothing right after about two years. Now Obama can’t do anything right in less than a year. Are the presidents getting worse or are the radical right and left getting totally out of hand. I know the answer based on the stupid things they say. It is American to express your opinion, but at least say something that isn’t distorted.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | September 3, 2009, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
I BELIEVE THAT THIS WHOLE WORLD IS JUST ONE BIG SCREW UP
Posted by: KEN BOLLING | September 3, 2009, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
If you download the PDF file of how the White House wanted the children to be ‘indoctrinated’ after the speech, you’ll find that the teachers were to collect the letters (or pictures if too young to write) about what they would ‘do for the President’, and then the teacher was to regularly ask the child, during the year, ‘what have you done to live up to what you promised the President?’ paraphrased by me
Waaaay too political. What if Bush had done this? Little Johnny running home to his Far Left home telling Mommy he told the President he’d go to war for him? I think anyone who doesn’t have a problem with this is hypnotized, like the MSM seem to be.
Posted by: Elaina | September 3, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
One final thing before I go to bed. Our elections and government policy is not decided based on truth and good ideas. Elections and government policy is decided base on which party has the best propaganda campaign!
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | September 3, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
It is not his (Obama’s) place to speak to the children about anything he is doing. It is the parents’ duty to rear their children and instill their beliefs in them and tell them what is going on in the world of politics, then allow the student at the age of accountability (which is surely not before high school, if even then)to decide if he/she would continue in the beliefs the parents taught them or decide to go a different route!!
Posted by: Obie | September 3, 2009, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
I cannot beleive that in the 21st century there are ‘educated’ people who want to teach our kids and grandkids that even the President is NOT PROTECTED by FREEDOM OF SPEECH! How can these people even think of calling themselves Americans? If not careful, conservative America will lose for all of us, every freedom that all previous Americans have fought to create and preserve. Let the man talk BEFORE criticizing the speech.
Posted by: N.E.E. | September 3, 2009, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Just think of how polarized we’ll be in 2016! no matter who wins, their approval rating will be below 50% by January 31st.
So very fickle. I wish technology could change it somehow, but a gap will likely remain. Looking at how we discuss opinions in columns doesn’t give one much hope.
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
“I grant you the man has done a lot for himself and if circumstances were different, I probably wouldn’t have a problem with him addressing our kids.
As it stands, our country has serious problems that need his attention more than addressing our children about the importance of staying in school. Knowing that he would cause a controversy.”
Posted by: CJ Dean | Sep 3, 2009 11:21:45 PM
The children are the future, and making sure that they are properly educated is by far the most important thing that we can do as a nation. If our children don’t understand the importance of education now, then this country has no future.
Conservatism is truly in a sad place if the right wing throws a tantrum because the President takes a few minutes out of his schedule to remind kids of the importance of education. The only reason that this is even remotely controversial is because right-wingers foam at the mouth whenever they hear the name Obama.
Posted by: Steve X | September 3, 2009, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Fanny,
You have hit the proverbial nail on the head. That is exactly it. President Obama would like to address the children of this nation on the importance of education, of learning, of reading and expanding your mind.
Posted by: Carolina | September 3, 2009, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
“Conservative extremists, domestic terrorists and nativists are scared, and the right wing conservative personalities [conservative radio hosts and other millionaires] use clever tactics to fuel their hate.”
Yeah, hate. Of course, when you call those you disagree with “domestic terrorists,” there’s no hate there, right?
Posted by: PD | September 3, 2009, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Steve X-Obama is taking “a few minutes” out of our children’s “schedule”. His employers did not authorize that.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
“There is some historical precedent for presidents speaking to students in nationally televised addresses. President George H. W. Bush did so in 1991 and President Ronald Reagan even talked politics with students in 1988.
Nonetheless charges from Republican officials that President Obama is seeking to indoctrinate students — unsupported by any real evidence — have been flying.”
The right wing’s irrational hatred of Obama is unprecedented. No one freaked out when Reagan preached his (since discredited) dogma that cutting taxes would not increase the deficit directly to school kids. No one pulled President Bush’s comments out of context. This is frightening – the Right wing is clinically paranoid.
” the taxes can be such a penalty on people that there’s no incentive for them to prosper and to earn more and so forth because they have to give so much to the government. And what we have found is that at the lower rates the government gets more revenue” Reagan to schoolkids 1988
“rite me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals. ” President Bush to schoolkids 1991
Posted by: jhw539 | September 3, 2009, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Continuing from previous post, our President would like to encourage our children to learn and question, to broaden their educational and learning horizons. But the problem arises when those who are educated and learned cannot be controlled. If you are educated, and question, then you cannot be frightened into believing that everything our government says is the right thing. Don’t you get it everyone??? He doesn’t want to control our children. He wants them to go out there and learn and read, and question the world around them. That way they can right a situation they see is wrong. They can improve theirs as well as others lots in life.
Why can’t these narrow-minded people see that??
Posted by: Carolina | September 3, 2009, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Continuing from previous post, our President would like to encourage our children to learn and question, to broaden their educational and learning horizons. But the problem arises when those who are educated and learned cannot be controlled. If you are educated, and question, then you cannot be frightened into believing that everything our government says is the right thing. Don’t you get it everyone??? He doesn’t want to control our children. He wants them to go out there and learn and read, and question the world around them. That way they can right a situation they see is wrong. They can improve theirs as well as others lots in life.
Why can’t these narrow-minded people see that??
Posted by: Carolina | September 3, 2009, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
“Conservative extremists, domestic terrorists and nativists are scared, and the right wing conservative personalities [conservative radio hosts and other millionaires] use clever tactics to fuel their hate.”
Yeah, hate. Of course, when you call those you disagree with “domestic terrorists,” there’s no hate there, right?
Posted by: PD | Sep 3, 2009 11:42:45 PM
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I think he’s talking about the ones with explosives that actually have plans. Possibly being carried out. They would qualify.
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
The difference in this speech and the other two presidents” speeches is that Obama has included study material, some of which will last throughout the year. Totally different agenda than just a little talk with the kiddies.
Posted by: Elaina | September 3, 2009, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
what about what can they do for their families, their communities, the country and the world.
Posted by: M. Sheldon
well, that immediately eliminates most of the vocal ‘right’ from doing anything
Posted by: + or - | September 3, 2009, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
President Obama has showed himself as one of great grace and thoughtful consideration.
The political posturing and mud-slinging by the GOP has not been effective. They are trying very hard to discredit the President of the United States.
Citizens, we know better. We know it’s right to care for our children and one another.
Posted by: a teacher | September 3, 2009, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
“Waaaay too political. What if Bush had done this?”
Elaina | Sep 3, 2009 11:36:28 PM
What if Bush had done this? Nothing. Not a peep or the slightest problem. The Left doesn’t seem to live in fear, nor consider their children incapable of being brainwashed by a banal speech.
“And while you’re at it, help a little brother or sister to learn, or maybe even Mom or Dad. Let me know how you’re doing. Write me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals.” President Bush, 1991
Reagan in 1988 actually pushed his cut taxes to eliminate the deficit ideals explicitly to school kids (look how well that turned out in the last 30 years of consistent tax cutting). Again, none of this irrational hysterics.
What is wrong with you people? It’s a 10 minute stay in school speech, not locking them up for a month of intensive brainwashing. How feeble minded are kids now a days?
Posted by: jhw539 | September 3, 2009, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
I call complete racial motives on all this so called unnecessary outrage over the President of the United States speaking to the children. All I have seen on the news is the republicans and other majority white school districts crying about President Obama’s speech. It is funny that here in Dallas that one superintendent was all gushing about former president Bush & Laura coming to one of the Dallas schools to address that particular school and his whole tone changed to a less supportive tone when he spoke of our current president and his efforts to encourage ALL children in our country. The republicans need to GET OVER IT!! The world do not revolve around you and at this point with all the hatred and pouting that has been going on since Obama won will not get you back in power. You are doing nothing more than showing the world you true colors in which you try so hard to hide but you’re slipping everyday. Hate is a terrible thing and until your party let go of the bitterness and hate towards are current President you will not regain office.
Posted by: A.L.H | September 3, 2009, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Steve X-Obama is taking “a few minutes” out of our children’s “schedule”. His employers did not authorize that.
Posted by: Reflect09 | Sep 3, 2009 11:44:54 PM
Well, as one of Obama’s “employers” I officially give him the authority to remind kids of the importance of education, since kids that value education and graduate from school tend to have a higher standard of living than those who don’t do either of those things.
Of course, if he ever decided to spend billions to invade a country under false pretenses, then I would revoke that authority in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Steve X | September 3, 2009, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
So… his speeches are useless.
Yet… when used against our children, are all powerful.
Hmm… ಠ_ಠ
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 3, 2009, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
“The difference in this speech and the other two presidents” speeches is that Obama has included study material, some of which will last throughout the year. ”
Elaina | Sep 3, 2009 11:47:22 PM
Last throughout the year? Where is it posted? All I saw was a two page lesson plan, little more involved than Bush exhorting them to write him letters, “you know the address.” (And a thousand teachers wrote it on the board and handed out envelopes.)
What are these “study materials” that will last throughout the year, specifically?
Posted by: jhw539 | September 3, 2009, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
“Nonetheless charges from Republican officials that President Obama is seeking to indoctrinate students — UNSUPPORTED BY ANY REAL EVIDENCE — have been flying.”
Why is the media giving these liars a mouthpiece?
Posted by: jhw539 | September 3, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
It is a sad state in this country when the Leader of the Free World is not free to speak to his own citizens, much less the youth, better yet future, of the country. One person can state that there is a diabolical plot by the president and now the country is in an uproar.
I think it is a serious shame that citizens will not even give the president the courtesy of speak to citizens and then being intelligent enough to then decipher what makes sense and what doesn’t.
We’ve become a people who choose to not listen but run on here-say.
And by the way it is very distasteful to compare President Obama to Chavez when on September 11, 2001, President Bush was in a classroom with pre-schoolers.
Bottom-line: Let the president speak.
Posted by: Roger | September 3, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
“well, that immediately eliminates most of the vocal ‘right’ from doing anything”
You might want to look up the figures on such things as left vs. right charitable giving. The right believes in personal responsibility in helping others. The left also believes this, albeit at about one-quarter the rate of giving.
Posted by: PD | September 3, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
I’m going to just say that hopefully we can peacefully “agree to disagree”. Evidently I’m wrong thinking the President has more important things to do than addressing the children on the importance of staying in school.
So enjoy his speech, I myself will be working. I hope your children find it informative and it lives up to all of your expectations. He is one heck of a spokesman and hopefully his speech will have more substance than his policies.
Goodnight all, till the next round.
Posted by: CJ Dean | September 3, 2009, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Thanks Mr. President, I realize you have giving all you got and than some, and you are doing just as you say you would, you have held steadfast on to your integrity, and so far have deliver wonderfully, one can see that you are a good father and parent, for most this is obvious and for others no matter what you do they will find fault, but I am letting you know (Thank you ,so far a job well do).
Posted by: gman | September 3, 2009, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Republicans have no tolerance…they scream the loudest but are not the majority..everyone else show tolerance and are not heard.maybe we need to start speaking up..Bush directed a speech to the kids but there was no drama about it…because the other side was tolerant and polite and respectful to the person that was our leader..it came and that was it…Rush speaks and his cult listens..Bush took away our liberties not a peep..most Ameicans benefited from PUBLIC SCHOOL how socialist…a Government run program that allows EVERYONE to get an education…Gov’t Loans that allow people to attend College that possible could not afford it…if you had to pay for school elem. HS how many could actually attend…how many paid in full for their kids to attend…I did not see or hear people say THAT IS SOCIALISM and I will not let my kids go to school until I can afford it…I do not want hand out …Unless you went to private school then you were participating in a Government run regulated program…
Posted by: texslds | September 3, 2009, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Got to go but, let me leave you all with this. My Children are my Children, as are Yours. They do not belong to the School, DHS, a Doctor, or any other state sponsored entity. They darn sure do not belong to our employee. 2010, looking good.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 3, 2009, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
No problem with him addressing children, but why does it have to be done during school hours? There is absolute no reason why this can’t wait until PM…
Posted by: ppassit | September 4, 2009, 12:04 am 12:04 am
This is my final comment of the night. I need to go to work early in the a.m. I wonder why all these people are so against this man. What has everyone so frightened of him? Is it his intelligence? Is it his education? What makes you hate him so much? It can’t be lack of competence because look at Bush and you all put in him office twice (I’m a long term Democrat). I really and truly hate to think it’s his skin color. If nothing else, his ethnicity and his multi-cultural background should be something we should all embrace and appreciate. He, like Justice Sonya Sotomayor can offer a refreshing and truer perspective of our country’s difficulties. Let’s give this man who we elected to office our respect, support, and encouragement. Goodnight everyone and peace be with you all and remember, it’s healthy to disagree.
Posted by: Carolina | September 4, 2009, 12:04 am 12:04 am
So when do Senators, Representatives, mayors and other politicians get to give words of encouragement to the kiddies too? Of course if their visit helped them pass difficult legislation that would be a bonus.
Posted by: Lorna | September 4, 2009, 12:06 am 12:06 am
I think this country is probably toast. Done for.
Posted by: Brant | September 4, 2009, 12:08 am 12:08 am
HELLO People are not thinking Reagan and Bush spoke to your kids and perhaps you when you were a kid…So Obama wants to speak to your kids…some of you parents are not doing the job ..some of the movies, songs and friends they hang out with cause more problems and I bet most of the parents are not upset about that ..sad sad day…
Posted by: texslds | September 4, 2009, 12:08 am 12:08 am
the myth is that there are so many people that are against Obama’s policies, what you see on TV is a 10 sec clip of the loudest screaming nut jobs, and not the other 1 1/2 hours of talk….
this is a disservice and failure by the various media….
even the polls, depending on which one and how the questions are asked skew the results…
there was one that went something like this, not exact but close:
‘If you knew that president Obama’s health care reform would create panels to assist in the death of senior citizens, would you be more or less inclined to support it?’
there is such a visceral hate by the right about anything connected with Obama that many have lost perspective… you can draw your own conclusions as to the source of this unreasonable hate, but it is certainly there.
certainly there are those that are strongly opposed to the presidents proposed policies, and there is nothing strange about that,..but, the distortions and outright lies are self evident.
it is a curious thing that many of the anti-health care reform crowd are themselves victims of exorbitant fees for health insurance, but are supporters of government run medicare..
a dichotomy to be sure… as they support those who place a difficult financial burden on their families, with no real security that the insurance companies will live up to the terms of their obligations.
Posted by: Friar Tuck | September 4, 2009, 12:10 am 12:10 am
I guess freedom of speech is only a luxury that conservatives have a right to.
Posted by: agnosticsocialist | September 4, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
A top official with a committed anti-reform group tells that Mike Enzi, one of those proclaimed bipartisan GOP Senators, strongly suggested at an event hosted by the group that he would oppose whatever proposal emerged.
Posted by: the GOP is fraudulant | September 4, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
N.E.E. | Sep 3, 2009 11:38:45 PM – Good comment. Conservatives want to protect their freedom of speech, but not for the President. It is a full frontal attack if they hear that he is going to give a speech because they know what he is going to say before he says it. I think they are using censorship on the President. Elections do not mean anything unless their candidate wins. Does that sound like people that understands the principles of our government. Sounds like brats on the playground.
Posted by: MikeMo19447 | September 4, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Republican gangster Sen. Mike Enzi (R-WY) told a radio listeners that Democrats wanted to kill the elderly with comparative efficacy research. two weeks agao Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) repeated the “death panel” meme at a town hall meeting. Grassley has also been raising money campaigning against “Obama-care.”
It’s looking more and more like the Democrats will have to look to budget reconciliation, a special parliamentary procedure that could sidestep a filibuster and pass a health care bill by a simple majority vote.
Posted by: the GOP is fraudulant | September 4, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am
“So when do Senators, Representatives, mayors and other politicians get to give words of encouragement to the kiddies too? Of course if their visit helped them pass difficult legislation that would be a bonus.”
Lorna | Sep 4, 2009 12:06:48 AM
State government officials regularly visit schools. And are you trying to make the dishonest suggestion that Obama is pushing policy during his speech (like Reagan explicitly did in his 1988 video, without anyone on the left freaking out I might add)?
Posted by: jhw539 | September 4, 2009, 12:20 am 12:20 am
“My Children are my Children, as are Yours. They do not belong to the School, DHS, a Doctor, or any other state sponsored entity. They darn sure do not belong to our employee. 2010, looking good.”
Reflect09 | Sep 3, 2009 11:59:34 PM
Children are people and belong to themselves and God. Parents guide and protect them for the start of their lives. And to an extent they do belong to society – we do not let people kill, maim, or seriously abuse their children like they are a piece of personal property. Your dehumanizing tone towards them is frightening.
Posted by: jhw539 | September 4, 2009, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Give me a break! Heaven forbid that children should hear from the President of the United States. They might actually start to think for themselves.
Will someone please tell me what is wrong with school children thinking about what they can do to help the President, and by extension the country? I guess we want to raise a country of lazy complainers.
That is one of the problems we have. We are so afraid to listen to someone we may not agree with that we are completely blind to the rest of the world.
Posted by: Disgusted in Wyoming | September 4, 2009, 12:24 am 12:24 am
It’s sheer irony to speak of concepts like freedom of speech in such a censored forum as this!
Posted by: ಠ_ಠ | September 4, 2009, 12:24 am 12:24 am
two words
PUBLIC EDUCATION
Posted by: alison | September 4, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am
It’s amazing how so many people are finding fault with this issue.Before you judge Obama’s decision to do this address you need to take a good hard look at our public school system. We are so far behind educationally in comparison to other industrialized countries and many developing countries it’s ridiculous. Jobs are being sent overseas not because of low wages but because America lacks individuals with the knowledge base necessary to fill critical fields. If you haven’t noticed it we are raising a generation of children who will not be able to compete globally. So if you want to find fault with O’s address then keep your kids at home but remember that the time is quickly approaching when America will loose it’s rank to nations like China and India.
Posted by: najnicola1 | September 4, 2009, 12:31 am 12:31 am
“For this reason we have set before ourselves the task of inoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still un-perverted and therefore unspoiled.”
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 4, 2009, 12:31 am 12:31 am
You are all yelling what is wrong with this being done. Good thing!!! Especially since the White House admits “the speech was written clumsily, subjecting it to misinterpretation, and had to be re-written”. Obama is like a loose canon. Look how he has done with other countries. And you expect us to trust what he may say to our children?!?!? Give me a break!!!
Posted by: TerriLee | September 4, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Of course this all political. I can’t believe anyone would support this. Reagan, Bush and now Obama were/are wrong.
Posted by: Lorna | September 4, 2009, 12:34 am 12:34 am
It has be asked several times above, but there seems to be now substantive response from the conservative extremists…. What is so wrong with our President speaking to our children…? Are you afraid that they may come home and challenge your own ideals? Do you think your children will be brain washed? Please stop the scare tactics… really. Please stop.
Posted by: Scott Jackson | September 4, 2009, 12:34 am 12:34 am
So what you are saying is that your kids might make a decision on their own and you don’t like that?
Posted by: mightymouse0911 | September 4, 2009, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Can Obama do anything that the GOP will not oppose?none
If you correctly educate your kids why are you afraid from the speech by Obama.
You just are not doing your job
Posted by: leche | September 4, 2009, 12:37 am 12:37 am
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. What are these schools afraid of. Bush had time to read a book to kids while the twin towers fell, so a talk to them about staying in school seems appropriate – unless you feed at the trough of the wacky right, for goodness sakes.
Since when is the President of the United States not allowed to talk to children?
The heart of Obama’s opposition is racist, hateful, and ignorant. I’m sick of getting your emails – it is below common decency. Maybe you should listen to the president this time, too.
Posted by: Mom | September 4, 2009, 12:37 am 12:37 am
It’s funny to see what parents will let their kids watch at home
Posted by: mightymouse0911 | September 4, 2009, 12:38 am 12:38 am
It’s funny to see what parents will let their kids watch at home
Posted by: mightymouse0911 | September 4, 2009, 12:40 am 12:40 am
The opposing school districts in Texas must be in the heavy conservative regions, e.g. Dallas, Austin, portions of Houston…
Posted by: Scott Jackson | September 4, 2009, 12:41 am 12:41 am
If you want your kids exposed to political propaganda get them involved in politics yourself. School is not the place to sell ideas from a politician to minors. No one is afraid of anything, politicians freely talk to people who want to listen to them. Kids are captive in schools, they shouldn’t be forced to listen to a politician whether they agree with him or not.
Posted by: Lorna | September 4, 2009, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Remember, sow the wind and reap the whirlwind. When you teach lack of respect for authority figures – and he is the President – the highest office in the U.S., and you will see it again – thrown up in your faces – just give it some time. I should think he would have a plenty to say to encourage your child/children to stay in school.
Heck, I am not even a Harvard or Yale Lawyer, and I can advise your child to study hard, stay in school, stay away from drugs, get his/her/their education so that they can one day maybe run for President, the Senate or run his/her own company. If they become drop-outs or run into trouble, it is the end for that sort of dream.
I teach universal oneness – we are all from the same essence according to Genesis 1:26, for all of you Conservative Christians, which is really a misnomer to me. Love and hate cannot occupy the same space.
Most of you are poorer than a church-mouse, but you look at your skin color to claim superiority in your miserable states of existence. That is sad!!!
Please learn respect for your President. Remember, the children you encourage to hate and disrespect will turn that on you if they have not already done it.
Posted by: Preacher1946 | September 4, 2009, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Everyone, your assignment is to please write down:
1. How has President Obama inspired you
2. What can you do to help President Obama
3. Please write why you want to pledge yourself to be a servent to President Obama.
4. If you find anyone who disagrees with any of President Obama’s policies please send in their name and address to the Whitehouse website
You will be graded.
Have a good day !
Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2009, 12:50 am 12:50 am
“Especially since the White House admits “the speech was written clumsily, subjecting it to misinterpretation, and had to be re-written”. Obama is like a loose canon. ”
TerriLee | Sep 4, 2009 12:33:56 AM
No, the White House admitted no such thing and that quote, attributed to the White House, is a flat out lie. Even as a paraphrase what you wrote would be a lie.
Does the Right wing have no self-respect to lie so obviously and continuously? Or do they just have no respect for the people they are lying to?
Posted by: jhw539 | September 4, 2009, 12:51 am 12:51 am
You might want to look up the figures on such things as left vs. right charitable giving. The right believes in personal responsibility in helping others. The left also believes this, albeit at about one-quarter the rate of giving.
Posted by: PD | Sep 3, 2009 11:56:47 PM
__________________
We already know the rad right believes
in “personal responsibility in giving”
. That’s why everyone’s upset. Giving to the wealthy and corporate America at the expense of the ill, the middle class, and the working poor.
It’s a weak argument and a one dimensional point to try to convince of “charital contributions”. Donating money to Pfizer is not charitable for those most needy.
Posted by: but we're really are good Christians in the GOP swamp | September 4, 2009, 12:51 am 12:51 am
As i said on Facebook, so shall i say here. Mr. President can address MY 6y/o and 14y/o children anytime on any given day. If such an act is the catalyst to MY children thinking politically, i do so welcome such a chance.
i reside in a house that is quite divided. One child is pro Obama, the other is NOT. i welcome both perspectives and encourage MY children to seek out politically what THEY feel is in the best interest for THEIR future America. Despite that i am usually the devils advocate in our political debates, MY children are aware that i voted for Obama, as well as Bush, and also Clinton.
MY children know that all things said politically are rarely all things done, hence my allegiance is to the best political liar.
Is not a matter of liking, nor agreeing with the President. For MY family, is a matter of being involved, and encouraging free thinking.
The fact remains that we are speaking about the leader of OUR AMERICA. In such a place, as well as in my home, free speech, and the ability to debate current and future endeavors until the cows come home, or the fat lady sings shall always be welcome.
Posted by: b.~ | September 4, 2009, 12:55 am 12:55 am
I think Obama’s address to the school children about learning and staying in school sounds great to me.The children can hear that.
Posted by: Doris Tracey | September 4, 2009, 12:55 am 12:55 am
“You might want to look up the figures on such things as left vs. right charitable giving. The right believes in personal responsibility in helping others. The left also believes this, albeit at about one-quarter the rate of giving.”
Posted by: PD | Sep 3, 2009 11:56:47 PM
Obama gives slightly more beginning with his run for the WH, but still a low percentage of income!
Posted by: Ed Taylor | September 4, 2009, 12:56 am 12:56 am
The message would be fine, except it’s being delivered by a hypocrit.
Posted by: JustMe | September 4, 2009, 12:59 am 12:59 am
I totally agreed with Obama in leaving his kids out of the job of politics….Please Mr. Obama, extend the same courtesy to my children as they mean just as much to me as yours do to you….
Posted by: Parallex View | September 4, 2009, 1:03 am 1:03 am
the task of inoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still un-perverted and therefore unspoiled.”
Posted by: Ed Taylor | Sep 4, 2009 12:31:59 AM
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Someone help us understand this please.
Sorry, I’ve completed college.
Is this a psycho religious exclamation?
An attestment from a child abuse case?
At what age do people become “perverted”
Is it true that conservatives become quite perverted at any early stage?
Posted by: Brenda | September 4, 2009, 1:06 am 1:06 am
TO: d_d: “Will someone please tell me what is wrong with school children thinking about what they can do to help the President, and by extension the country? I guess we want to raise a country of lazy complainers.”
Children shouldn’t be asked to think about what they can to to ‘help’ the POTUS, and “by extension the country”. He’s SUPPOSED to work for US, not the other way around, and has plenty of help already with handlers telling him what to do. He should concentrate more on filling his cabinet, that up to now has over 43% not even picked and he’s been in office almost nine months! But he certainly didn’t waste any time appointing 35+ CZARS that don’t answer to us, Congress, NObody, except for him.
And as far as “raising a bunch of lazy complainers”, it is not HIS responsibility to raise our kids, it’s the parents, and a large majority are already a bunch of teevee watching, fat and lazy complainers. I wouldn’t want him anywhere NEAR my kids attempting to indoctrinate his facist views on them without the benefit of having parents decide whether they want their kids exposed to this without even the benefit of seeing what he is planning on telling their kids without their permission. Get your head out of the sand and quit complaining about what you think is so bad about a parent not knowing what’s best for their own child.
Posted by: Tweetie | September 4, 2009, 1:06 am 1:06 am
I am old enough to remember WWII, and am terrified of OBAMA. This is very reminiscent of one of Hitler’s method of brainwashing— starting with the very young, and pushing his New World Order– where everyone should be blond and blue eyed. (But that’s where OBAMA differs) I’m surprised that ABC doesn’t report on the undesirable “Czars” that OBAMA surrounds himself with–I worked for the government and had to take an oath to defend the Constitution, as well as not advocate the overthrow of the government. I’m afraid that OBAMA is getting his supporters ready to do just that!!! We are in a very scary place right now.
Posted by: Oreisha | September 4, 2009, 1:10 am 1:10 am
“Please Mr. Obama, extend the same courtesy to my children as they mean just as much to me as yours do to you….”
Parallex View | Sep 4, 2009 1:03:08 AM
They are being left out of politics. I suppose you vehemently oppose the saying of the Pledge of Alligance too – talk about political brainwashing.
And I’m amazed at how the liberal loons didn’t have the slightest problem with Reagan (who pushed his tax philosophy to school kids!) or Bush’s speech to millions. Why is the far Right so viciously paranoid?
Posted by: jhw539 | September 4, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am
“Children shouldn’t be asked to think about what they can to to ‘help’ the POTUS, and “by extension the country”. He’s SUPPOSED to work for US, not the other way around,”
Tweetie | Sep 4, 2009 1:06:56 AM
How far we’ve come from ask not what your country can do for you, or I regret that I have but one live to give for my country. Now it’s “the country works for US – shut up and serve me.”
Posted by: jhw539 | September 4, 2009, 1:12 am 1:12 am
Re my comment to ‘d_d’…
What I meant to say in my last sentence was “Get your head out of the sand and quit complaining about what you think is so bad about a parent that KNOWS what’s best for their own child. I hadn’t meant to say what they don’t know.
Posted by: Tweetie | September 4, 2009, 1:14 am 1:14 am
“I am old enough to remember WWII, and am terrified of OBAMA. This is very reminiscent of one of Hitler’s method of brainwashing— starting with the very young, and pushing his New World Order–”
Oreisha | Sep 4, 2009 1:10:40 AM
Except he’s not pushing any New World Order. His short speech was noncontroversial and harmless when Reagan and Bush did about the same thing. You really need to gain a bit of perspective.
Posted by: jhw539 | September 4, 2009, 1:14 am 1:14 am
We are in a very scary place right now.
Posted by: Oreisha | Sep 4, 2009 1:10:40 AM
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
The blob is attacking!!!!!!!!!!!
keep your children and small dogs away from the scary blob of education rationality and reason!
Get the Robot troops, quick!
Posted by: The Cold War ain't so cold for some | September 4, 2009, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Anybody that doesn’t think this is yet another right wing effort to undermine ANYTHING that the president is doing is crazy. Imagine being so obsessed with making Obama wrong that you wouldn’t want your child to hear his message about staying in school. Right wing fear mongering at its racist worst. Shame, shame, shame. Have you no sense of shame, Republicans??!!
Posted by: Brad | September 4, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Watch out. A new group of Obamabots need to be created.
Don’t get in the way
Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2009, 1:20 am 1:20 am
If he can’t get it right talking to a bunch of school kids, how is it going to be with a health-care bill he hasn’t even read?
Posted by: Jon | September 4, 2009, 1:24 am 1:24 am
His speech sounds like a very positive one. If it encourages young people to work harder, to set goals for themselves, and to try and think beyond their own wants and needs, to consider what they can do that benefits their community or their country — these are all good things. I can’t understand why this would upset anyone.
Posted by: cal_chi | September 4, 2009, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Don’t blame me. I voted for Hillary.
Posted by: Jimmy | September 4, 2009, 1:42 am 1:42 am
While I don’t think there was really anything “sinister” intended here, you have to almost laugh at the way this administration has surrounded itself with idiots that would put the president in the postition of having to defend himself like this. Doesn’t Obama have anyone to proof read the things they put out before releasing it?
Posted by: Edward | September 4, 2009, 1:44 am 1:44 am
How many times did George W. say things that we all had wonder, What in the world was he trying say?
Posted by: Cliff Marr | September 4, 2009, 1:54 am 1:54 am
who is more qualify to speaker to students than a man who’s first is the president of the free world and than a family man and a good father and parent.
Posted by: gman | September 4, 2009, 1:59 am 1:59 am
It’s all Bush’s fault. :(
Posted by: Mike | September 4, 2009, 2:00 am 2:00 am
It’s always about the “cult” of Obama. It’s not about what can you do to help America, but what can you do to help Obama. Forget Obama, he’s bankrupting this Country into more cetralized government insanity.
Posted by: Juice | September 4, 2009, 2:05 am 2:05 am
disinformation or just plain ignorance. im moving to Europe. ya’ll can have your ‘this land is my land’. Peace.
Posted by: greg | September 4, 2009, 2:09 am 2:09 am
If he can’t get it right talking to a bunch of school kids, how is it going to be with a health-care bill he hasn’t even read?
Posted by: Jon | Sep 4, 2009 1:24:49 AM
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You have a bad additude.
Posted by: kENNETH | September 4, 2009, 2:16 am 2:16 am
How come some other past Presidents did the same thing and they didn’t sound like Hitler? Why can’t President Obama address the American kids? What’s wrong with that?
I strongly believe that all this is about racist conservative Republicans who still can’t get over the fact that an African-American is the US President. Therefore, under the guise of patriotism, they’re up to do anything to get in his way. They are definitely to demonize him so he can fail. Because, their goal is to make a point with their myth that African-American cannot accomplish anything valuable.
But, by doing so, they are just demonizing themselves… They are showing how evil and sinical they are. American people will eventually find out…
Posted by: GERDEE | September 4, 2009, 2:19 am 2:19 am
It’s always about the “cult” of Obama. It’s not about what can you do to help America, but what can you do to help Obama. Forget Obama, he’s bankrupting this Country into more cetralized government insanity.
Posted by: Juice
You aren’t making sense.
Posted by: KENNETH | September 4, 2009, 2:20 am 2:20 am
I probably wouldn’t mind if he is planning on speaking to the kids. But I do think it should be a parents god given right to know what he is planning no saying to them. By saying this I mean he should put his speach in general public view, so parents can see exactly what he is planning on saying. I think the reason why there is so much upset parents out there is due to the fact that President Obama can’t even manage the people he has working for him. IE. Unauthorized flights of Airforce One for pictures over New York, hugh spending for greedy bank executives and so on.. Frankly, there are alot of scared and upset people in this country and their trust him what he might have to say worries them.
Posted by: Not Surprised | September 4, 2009, 2:28 am 2:28 am
NO to Obama indocrination!
Posted by: Mike | September 4, 2009, 2:35 am 2:35 am
All of you who are afraid of this speech to your children should take your kids out of public school! home school them or pay for private schools!
Posted by: Kim Cluston | September 4, 2009, 2:49 am 2:49 am
obama should address the youths of america. they will receive something i did not receive as a student. i think it should be a currculum requirement.
Posted by: lindsey | September 4, 2009, 2:55 am 2:55 am
This is awful. There is no respect for the President of the United States. I pray everyday Jesus Christ would come quickly, so He can correct all of this hate and foolishness in this world. Pres. Obama is my President and my children and if their school do not show it I will be protesting that. We got to get past color..prejudice if we to remain most powerful. Probably why we are losing this battle now.Peace!
Posted by: AB | September 4, 2009, 2:55 am 2:55 am
I’m keeping my kids home and it doesn’t have anything to do with racism. This is indocrination! When Reagan and Bush spoke to children there wasn’t a lesson plan to go along with it. I will not have my children force fed. This is just another stepping stone for marxism and socialism. I too think Jesus is coming back soon. Sign of the times. Things are going to get worse.
Posted by: Marie | September 4, 2009, 3:23 am 3:23 am
Obama has a track record of NOT telling the truth. I don’t mind the president address the youth as long as it is about school, not politics. This is what is disturbing, “Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” I don’t think we have a misinterpretation of this administrations intentions, they have lesson plans…so did Hitler and you can read what he did with the youth and Germany. Obama & his administration is about power and control, nothing about the interest of the American people.
Posted by: Russ | September 4, 2009, 3:28 am 3:28 am
marie “This is just another stepping stone for marxism and socialism”……OK, give us one example where the President is proposing a single Marxist or socialist policy…just one…name it.
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 3:32 am 3:32 am
Communists do like to get their hands on kids—–they believe if they get people young enough then they can “reeducated them.” And this is what Obama is up to…since he had to change the lesson plan—-expect Obama to say something bizarre to try to convert them. You bots should know about Obama and his targeting of kids while campaigning. Remember it was Obama who put a how to help Obama site on his web site targeted directly at young children. The Obama Youth like the Nazi Youth originally were supposed to “talk” to their families about voting for Obama and I believe it was complete with coloring pictures for the kids to learn how harass adults into voting Obama.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 3:39 am 3:39 am
Flash back to October 8, 2008 when people where warning Of socialist Obama targeting kids to help him: I saw the future and it was as dark as I was afraid it would be. And with a single click you can see it too.
After I wrote about the danger that Sen. Obama’s association with people like Bill Ayers poses to the U.S. education and drew parallels between children singing praise to Sen. Obama and kids who grew up in police states, the reaction from the readers was somewhat mixed. Most people shared my concerns, but some doubted that an Obama-led government would bring politics into elementary and middle schools. Well, today my predictions have been confirmed by the most reliable source: Sen. Obama himself.
If you go to Sen. Obama’s official site and click on People you’d see — among others — a recently added category called Kids. Yes, that’s Kids as in “your kids” or “your sister’s or brother’s kids”. Those kids. Sen. Obama and his staff have apparently realized that they’ve been ignoring this important segment of our society. And with their usual determination and perseverance they went after it.
The opening statement sets the stage: “In the words of Senator Barack Obama, the “Obama for America Campaign is a different type of campaign”. For the first time in campaign history, children ages 12 and under, have a place to go and actually vote—through their voice. What a great way to be introduced to politics and to express your support for Senator Obama.” On this one, I have to agree with Sen. Obama–this is certainly a very different kind of campaign.
The site features content for kids themselves, for adults who want to leverage others’ kids to get more votes for Sen. Obama and for parents who want to leverage their kids to promote their support of Sen. Obama
Every set of instructions is worth reading. Kids have “10 Ways Kids for Obama can get involved” at their disposal. These steps include suggestions such as
Draw a picture of Senator Barack Obama or “an expression of Democracy”. For example, the Senator sitting in the White House or working on Capitol. Hill. You can send your drawing to the Obama for America Campaign Headquarters in Chicago and it will be posted for the Senator to see.
Implement T-Shirt Thursday. Get friends to wear an official Obama for America T-Shirt to school.
Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama.
Post an official Obama for America Campaign sticker/logo on your school bag.
The site offers many handy instructions for young Sen. Obama supporters, helping them to form the pragmatic attitude they would absolutely need in the Obama led nation. The quote is worth reading in full (for the full text the site refers to this article):
The one thing most grandparents have in common is that they have the most wonderful grandchildren in the world – so clever, so handsome, so pretty, ever so precious. Even if you are still unsure of your path in life, and even if your parents and friends occasionally wonder about you, your grandma and grandpa love you and have faith in you.
That is your weapon! “Precious” needs to get on the phone and say, “Grandpa, Grandma, I am asking you to vote for Barack Obama. This is really important to me. It’s about my future. It’s about the world I will be living in. It’s about the world I want for my future children. (They will love that one!) Please! Do it for me!”
Put some urgency in your voice. Sound very disappointed in them if they give you excuses. Come back again, even harder. “This is about my future – my ability to get a good job, to live a healthy life, to have the same (or even more) opportunities than you had to succeed. I have never felt more strongly about anything. I am begging you to vote for Barack Obama. I need you to do this for me!”
This is just a sample script. You know what it takes to get to them.
People who would like to utilize many kids for Sen. Obama’s promotion can find a handy “Kids for Obama Starter Kit”. The kit opens with a scientific claim: “Studies have shown that kids can affect their parents and their siblings’ opinions and even change the opinions of older family members . . . including those of voting age”. Having set the tone, the kit offers simple guidelines for setting up a “Kids for Obama” event, covering such as aspects as invitations, broad advertising and planning. Its pragmatic advice is hard to misinterpret: “Ask kids to draw a picture of Barack Obama or what America means to them. These pictures could be used on campaign buttons and/or bumper stickers. It’s a great way to get kids involved!” A video shows a successful adult-led event and happy children who share their perspectives: “I want to vote for Barack Obama because he is cool!”
A report from a successful event says: “Yesterday, nearly 100 kids gathered in Pullen Park in Raleigh with their family and friends to show their support for Barack Obama. Children painted t-shirts, colored portraits of Barack, shot hoops for prizes and made American flags that they paraded around the park holding while cheering “Obama.”
Finally, young U.S. citizens can fully participate in political process. How young? You’ll be the judge. The site features letters from young supporters to Sen. Obama, such as this:
Dear Senator Obama,
I want you to be presadint because you are great for the economy. You have a great forin policy. We do not need a third term.
Hope you make it to the White house!
Your very yung suportar,
Ava A.
Age 8
But don’t think 8 years is the limit. You can love Sen. Obama even if you’re 3 and you still can be used for propaganda. A proud parent shares the story (along with a picture):
“My kids love Obama! My son is 3…he spells OBAMA and yells for President!”
Older generation also contributes its astute observations of political maturity of their grandchildren:
My six year old grand daughter picked up a newspaper section that had pictures of Hillary and McCain in it.
She looked at each page, turning it twice, and then looked again.
She breathed a deep sigh and tossed the newspaper down. She looked at me and said, “Grandma, that paper is no good!”
When I asked her why, she replied, “Because they left out Obama!”
Such a politically conscious observation from a six year old girl could only have been inspired by a man who reaches the hearts of everyone who come into contact with him, wether it be his voice, his pictures, or the spirit of love and positive hopeful energy he evokes in people of all ages! GRANDCHILDREN FOR OBAMA!
Now let’s wrap up the tour and put this into perspective. Is this all so bad? Is it bad at all? Shouldn’t kids be involved? Aren’t they entitled to their opinions? Is it wrong to reach out to them to open their eyes, so that they could change opinions of their parents? There are two way to answer these questions. One is simple ethics. Make no mistake: this is not about reaching out to the supporters. Sen. Obama openly goes after the kids of people who don’t plan to vote for him. He and his staff see the minds of children as a backdoor to get to the voting parents and grandparents. So, yes, it is bad. It is wrong. It is despicable. And there’s no excuse for this.
There’s another way to answer the question. What does our government think about this? Are they ok with targeting children with propaganda? As it turns out, they are not. When it comes to commercial advertisement, government bodies such as FDC and FDA have been going after marketers who target children age 12 and under. Yes, it’s exactly the same age group that Sen. Obama targets so explicitly. Just last year FDC along with its European counterpart pushed Masterfoods to stop marketing of its products (e.g. Snickers, Milky Way and Twix) to kids. Apparently, from the government’s perspective, kids age 12 and under are not mature enough to figure out whether Snickers are good or bad for their health, and thus can be misled by advertising. But of course, figuring out where a presidential candidate stands on taxes, abortion, education and national security is much easier. So why would the government have any problem with that?
I don’t know whether our government has a problem with that, but I sure do. Neither voting fraud nor accepting donations from untraceable foreign donors is as low as using kids to get to their parents. And the obsession that’s been sweeping the nation has gone too far if most adults in America don’t see it this way. But then again, these days adults in America proudly form groups called “Babies for Obama” where they exchange photos of infants wearing shirts covered with Obama propaganda.
The future is here. But with our votes and by sharing this information with others we can still prevent it from becoming a long-lasting dark reality, where kids are made into “very yung suportars” by pragmatic adults.
P.S. Sen. Obama’s site has a long history of silently removing materials that American public finds too disturbing (such as openly antisemetic musings of Sen. Obama’s supporters). Just in case the same sad fate awaits its “Kids” section, the snapshots of the site have been captured.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 3:42 am 3:42 am
Potatoe – “Communists do like to get their hands on kids”….ok so you charge the President is a Communist…name a single shred of evidence to support his Communists views and name a single Communist policy he has proposed/implemented….this FoxNews meme is just bonkers…you all need to support this outrageous claim
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Indi…for one, Obama was raised a communist. His mother a “fellow traveler” is a communist. His grandparents were members of the red church…aka communists. And his mentor, Uncle Frank, that Obama writes of in his book was not only an outspoken bisexual child molestor but full fledge communist.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 3:50 am 3:50 am
Of course, Indi anyone can type in Obama and any number of key words like communist and up pops Obama’s communist/marxist histories by the hundreds. For instance: Obama’s Father Wrote About Socialism – His father wrote a paper called “Problems With Our Socialism” that advocates 100% taxation of the rich, communal ownership of land and the forced confiscation of privately controlled land. Source: Greg Ransom, PrestoPundit
2. Obama’s Mother Was a “Communist Sympathizer” – ” Friends describe her as a “fellow traveler”, that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report” Source: Spengler, Asia Times “The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics – Barack Obama” Source: Tim Jones, Chicago Tribune
3. Obama’s Parents Met in a Russian Class (Back then it was the Communist USSR) – “His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (her father always wanted a son), was white and just 18 when they met in a Russian class” Source: Sharon Cohen, St Louis Times
4. Obama’s Teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known CPUSA member) – “…through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his poetry and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just Frank.” Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media “Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979″ Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)
5. Obama’s Brother Roy and Cousin Odinga are Marxists – “Barack Obama’s older brother, Abongo “Roy” Obama. He is a Luo activist. militant Muslim and a Marxist.” Source: Barbara Busby, 180people.com “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy Source: Bill Sammon, The Examiner “Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country” Source: Invenstor’s Business Daily
6. Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union – “He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he’d become “one of those freaks you see on the streets around here.” Source: H Kennedy, NY Daily News
7. Obama Was Hand Picked by Alice Palmer to Succeed Her in the Illinois State Senate – “Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People’s Daily World, June 19, 1986.” Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)
8. Obama’s Run for the Illinois State Senate was Launched by a Fundraiser Organized at Bill Ayers’ and Bernardine Dorhn’s Chicago Home – Ayers and Dorhn are former terrorists from the Weather Underground who’s SDS organization received financial contributions from the CPUSA. “Obama’s run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers’ and Dorhn’s Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat.” Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)
9. Obama Had a Close Relationship with the “Anti-Capitalist” Group ACORN – “Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (Acorn)…Chicago Acorn appears to have played a major role in Obama’s political advance…Acorn’s radical agenda sometimes shifts toward “undisguised authoritarian socialism.” Source: Stanley Kurtz, National Review
10. Obama Attended Several Meetings with the Democratic Socialists in Chicago and Was even Endorsed by Them – “Obama’s socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the “champions” of “Chicago’s democratic left” and a long-time socialist activist. Obama’s stint as a “community organizer” in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.” Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media “In its broadest sense, democratic socialism could refer to any attempts to bring about socialism through democratic means as opposed to violent insurrection.” Source: Wikipedia
11. Obama Endorsed Openly Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders – Video ” “Sanders is the first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate.” Source: Wikipedia
12. Many Obama Supporters Idolize Che Guervara – Obama Campaign Worker Seen With Communist Cuba Flag Depicting Marxist Che Guevara on it. Source: David Benzion, Lone Star Times
“Guevara later served as Minister of Industries, in which post he helped formulate Cuban socialism…Guevara played a key role in bringing to Cuba the Soviet nuclear-armed ballistic missiles that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962. During an interview with the British newspaper Daily Worker some weeks later, he stated that, if the missiles had been under Cuban control, they would have fired them against major U.S. cities.” Source: Wikipedia
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 3:53 am 3:53 am
“Indi…for one, Obama was raised a communist. His mother a “fellow traveler” is a communist. His grandparents were members of the red church…aka communists. And his mentor, Uncle Frank, that Obama writes of in his book was not only an outspoken bisexual child molestor but full fledge communist.”………..source please…I have read his books, and there is no such thing in either book…I ask for sources and for you to outline a single communist policy the President supports or has implemented…if you cannot back it up, you should logoff.
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 3:54 am 3:54 am
Indi, Clearly Obama and his policies tend to be communist/marxist…and Oh btw, you wanted an example of Obama’s communist games in office….where to start? Hmmm..How about with outspoken ADMITTED COMMUNIST GREEN CZAR (WHO BECAME A COMMUNIST IN PRISON BTW.)
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 3:56 am 3:56 am
Give me a break…people..parents..are not upset about this cause of racial nor political agendas. Everytime someone disagrees with Obama you people start screaming..oh its racial or those republicans. No my friends its just “people” not caring very much for the sneaky tactics that the Obama administration uses to push toward his agenda. It reminds me alot of Sadam Hussein. He did that very trick…television to praise him and etc. I dont care if someone is black white green nor yellow…and the majority doesnt either. I have not heard so much about race ever..since Obama has been President..you people scream that ALL the time…How come when people slurred Condalezza Rice you never took up for her saying it was race…hmmm I know cause she was a black “republican” not a black democrat…LOL
Posted by: Lisa | September 4, 2009, 3:57 am 3:57 am
Potatoe – not a single one of your 10 points shows the President is or has ever been a member of the Communist Party, or has implemented or proposed a single communist policy – EVER….and by the way, the WND, and New York Post are not credible “sources”…sorry.
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 4:00 am 4:00 am
This is beyond BIZARRE. I can’t fathom what is wrong with the President of the United States addressing citizens. You rightwingers DEMANDED that we support Bush in his Iraq War, or we were supposed to leave the country. Now Obama wants to tell kids to stay in school, and you are claiming this is all politics? Very strange..
Ok republicans, pass a law stating that no elected official, governors, senators, etc, may visit any school in this country. Arrest any State Governor who wants to visit a local school to give kids encouragement. (you wont do it, unless somehow you can make the law apply only to elected democrats)
Posted by: mdell27 | September 4, 2009, 4:00 am 4:00 am
WOW, Potatoe, you have fallen for that FoxNews “communist” meme, hook line and sinker (very laughable, yet tragic)….looks like the Right are moving on from just “socialism” charges (cause those did not stick) and just going straight for hard core “communist” charge….hey why not? and where will it all end?
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 4:05 am 4:05 am
I think: 1) The Office of the President of the United States and the person who occupies it deserves respect by the citizens and the children of the United States. 2) A president should encourage and motivate our youth to education and achievment. 3) Political content or social doctrine have no place in speeches to children, and of course 4) if… Read More a president shuts a group of citizens and their representatives out of the major debates of our nation, he should expect resistence when he wants to address their children.
Posted by: Jill | September 4, 2009, 4:07 am 4:07 am
Potatoe “ADMITTED COMMUNIST GREEN CZAR (WHO BECAME A COMMUNIST IN PRISON BTW.)”….he was jail for 2 days for disturbing the peace as part of a Rodney King verdict peaceful demonstration…(you make it sound like he was in for a decade for murder)….and if he is a communist why has he received “entreprenuer of the year” awards for his successful and profitable businesses from Time magazine, Wall Street Journal, etc…..?
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 4:08 am 4:08 am
You’re too easy Indi, perhaps you would prefer a play by play comparison of Obama with other communist dictators and what they started off doing—its identical to how Obama is starting out. As I said many are seeing the communist/marxist ways in Obama…including Bloomberg
Throughout history Communist leaders have seized power by promoting themselves as populists, and often completely hiding their own ideology. Indeed in a poll taken after Communist Hugo Chavez’ first election victory in Venezuela, only 3% of the electors believed Chavez to be a Socialist, let alone a Communist. Currently 32% of Americans believe Obama to be a Socialist.
The initial stages of Communization of a country invariably begin with seven basic steps:
Seizing Control Over The Free Flow Of The Nation’s Money
Obama has stated that he wants to convert the stock the US government now owns in the nation’s banks from preferred stock, which is the case currently, to common stock. This modification in type of stock may seem irrelevant at first glance, but under further analysis it is the single greatest communist policy the US government has ever adopted: It means that the federal government will control all of the currently publicly traded major banks and financial institutions in the nation which are currently in the hands of individual shareholders. Not only will the current shareholders’ rights be trampled, but the control of the nation’s flow of money is the first keystone of communism.
Stripping Capitalists Of Their Assets
According to US bankruptcy code, secured creditors such as the ones who have outstanding debt against Chrysler and GM, have to be paid before unsecured creditors. That is the law. Obama has ignored this law, and seized the vast majority (89% in GM’s case) of all “asset value” of the automakers and taken direct control or given it away for free to the unions. Karl Marx’s theses were all based on the workers owning the means of production, and thus communism takes hold in America.
Changing The Structures Of Government To Suit
Obama has given the GOP until October to approve his health care plan which many experts have shown, would be as socialized as Cuba’s. If the Republican Party does not meet his demands, the Democratic Party will simply change the very rules of the United States Senate to pass their legislation through simple majority, instead of the 60% which has been required by the Senate through history. Changing legislation to suit the leader is another common tactic of communist leaders from Chavez to Castro.
Taking Advantage Of A Crisis To Impose Communism
Obama’s Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel published a book entitled The Plan which would require (yes, require) young Americans regardless of their political stripe to serve in a direct copy of Hugo Chavez’ red-beret local militias. The Plan also promotes massive taxpayer funded programs as universally free university tuition and health care as well as a tax reform to ensure that the middle and upper classes are crushed by the enormous new government expenditures. Obama has already admitted such a “soak anyone making over $250,000/year” punitive tax policy. Emanuel is famous for his quote “you never want a serious crisis to go to waste…(it’s) an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before,” which is the prototypical process whereby communists seize power, witness Lenin, Mao, Castro, Tito, et al.
Controlling Higher Education
Obama has already launched legislation to remove private lenders from student loans which would now all be provided by the federal government directly, so that it could choose in a totalitarian manner who receives the loans and who doesn’t. Many educational institutions are up in arms over this legislation as it essentially shifts admissions policy from the colleges and universities to the federal government. Control of higher education as in Obama’s Pell Grant entitlement is an universal characteristic of communism to ensure that the young are properly ideologically indoctrinated.
Punishing Residential Property Owners
Obama’s enormous mortgage bailout legislation is little more than a full blown entitlement program. The plan forces the 92 percent of responsible home owners to heavily subsidize the irresponsible “ARM-ATM” mortgage holders who didn’t read their ARM mortgages and used their home equity like ATMs. These taxes would be so overwhelming that many of the “responsible” majority of mortgage holders could lose their homes. The punishment leading to the elimination of property owners in favor of the state is a fundamental tenet of Marxism, as Karl wrote “the middle-class owner of property: This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible.”
Demolishing The Economy To Replace It With State Control
Obama has:
Handicapped American multinationals by denying them tax deferral, placing them at an enormous competitive disadvantage against corporations based anywhere else.
Launched entitlement programs which punish innovation and dry up funds for entrepreneurial start ups.
Stopped the Treasury from implementing any real recovery plans, discouraging private capital flow into the financial sector.
Stated “we have to spread the wealth around, we have to redistribute the wealth of this country through taxation,” which is a paraphrasing of Marx’s “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”
Declared a “War On Business” as shown by his legislation that pharmaceutical corporations pay high rebate fees to Medicaid and promoting the importation of foreign drugs which could include low potency or outright counterfeit drugs into the nation. The financial outlook for US pharmaceutical companies has been decimated.
Placed nearly two thirds of a trillion dollars into a health reform reserve fund, which is the tip of the iceberg in the expectations of the cost of fully socialized medicine in America. USA Today has stated that every household in the United States would be on the hook for over half a million dollars.
All of these policies represent time-honored Communist policies specifically designed to devastate the free market economy as well as impoverish and punish the upper and middle classes leading to their elimination so that the Communist “Dictatorship Of The Proletariat” can be introduced. It is important to note that in each and every historical instance Communism has been introduced into democratic countries and they were all swiftly changed to totalitarian dictatorships of a single leader benefiting from a “Cult Of Personality.”
Policies virtually identical to these were implemented by:
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin in 1917 Russia
Josip Broz Tito in 1945 Yugoslavia
Mao Zedong (Tse-tung) in 1949 China
Fidel Castro in 1959 Cuba
Hugo Chavez in 1999 Venezuela
and now they are being implemented by
Barack Hussein Obama in 2009 United States of America.
That is why Bloomberg.com has called Obama a “Manchurian Candidate” set to destroy the US economy once elected.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 4:10 am 4:10 am
Conservatives have their eye on the mid-term elections and the White House in just over three years’ time. They have already been whipped into a frenzy by right-wing radio and commentators.
They will do whatever it takes even if it means undermining a message with which they agree just because it is a Democrat President delivering it to the country’s 13 to 17 year olds.
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 4:13 am 4:13 am
When a far right wacko or two goes completely off the deep end and guns down or blows up innocent people, the following Pants-on-Fire liars should be held criminally and civilly accountable for helping to incite the perpetrators.
Limbaugh: “President Obama . . . wants to mandate circumcision.”
Michael Steele: The VA has manual encouraging vets “to commit suicide.”
Orly Taitz: Birthers have obtained a copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
Roy Blunt: “I’m 59. In either Canada or Great Britain, if I broke my hip, I couldn’t get it replaced.”
Sara Palin: “Death Panels”
Liberty Counsel: “Your children will be indoctrinated and your grandchildren may be aborted!”
Glenn Beck: John Holdren “has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.”
Betsy McCaughey: Mandatory counseling sessions telling seniors how to end their life sooner.
Investor’s Business Daily: The health care reform bill outlaws private insurance
Posted by: Jess Sayen | September 4, 2009, 4:16 am 4:16 am
I don’t really know much about this except that a lot of parents don’t want their kids to see our President (elected by a majority of our citizens) speak to them about goals and education. I think if they’re truly concerned, they should tune in also so they can discuss it with their kids. Young kids probably won’t ‘get it’ anyhow, but it sure doesn’t hurt to have kids doing ‘current events’ by watching this. An informed citizenry is essential if we are to govern ourselves responsibly and this is just a step toward that type of awareness. If it does turn out to be some kind of horrible propaganda, one speech won’t do irreversible harm if someone will just talk to their kids afterwards. And if it IS that terrible, boycott the next attempt; but for now, just remember it is a democracy where we all can speak, but where we also have an obligation to listen, too. As for knowing exactly what is going to be said in a classroom BEFORE it is said, well, that happens every day–I doubt many parents have read even ONE entire textbook that’s used in their child’s classroom, and you surely can’t know everything a teacher might say. Give your kids credit for being able to sift things out.
Posted by: A Greg | September 4, 2009, 4:18 am 4:18 am
What kind of world have we become when we don’t want the President of the United States to encourage our childeren to stay in school? I think the children should learn to write letters on how to help the President, people grow up, I would be honored to have President Obama speak to my children. I’m one of those parents where thier child dropped out of High School any encouragement would help, and what better then coming from the President of the United States.
Posted by: Whenwillitin | September 4, 2009, 4:19 am 4:19 am
Julie, Conservatives will do whatever to take over? Don’t you mean bots (not to be confused with regular people who happen to be liberal)? You know like the Bot that attacked an elderly man today and bite off his finger because he didn’t support obama’s health care? Or bots like Indi on here just flat out lying?
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 4:22 am 4:22 am
Potatoe….I dont need and econimics lesson as I am an economist, but thanks …all you are doing is cutting and pasting from dubious sources…anyone can do that…and btw, the Bloomberg article was an “hypothetical”….do you know what that is…? anyway, so lets just assume you are right, that the President is not a socialist at all, but actually a flaming communist manchurian candidate (as it seems this is now where you and FoxNews are going – right over the edge together)…what next..? given we have THREE branches of government, and it is highly unlikely that the military is going to back Mr Obama’s “communist coup”…where does this all lead…please educate us in detail about how the country will have become a communist dicatatorship by end of 2012….LOL
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 4:22 am 4:22 am
When a far right wacko or two goes completely off the deep end and guns down or blows up innocent people, the following Pants-on-Fire liars should be held criminally and civilly accountable for helping to incite the perpetrators.
Limbaugh: “President Obama . . . wants to mandate circumcision.”
Michael Steele: The VA has manual encouraging vets “to commit suicide.”
Orly Taitz: Birthers have obtained a copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
Roy Blunt: “I’m 59. In either Canada or Great Britain, if I broke my hip, I couldn’t get it replaced.”
Sara Palin: “Death Panels”
Liberty Counsel: “Your children will be indoctrinated and your grandchildren may be aborted!”
Glenn Beck: John Holdren “has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.”
Betsy McCaughey: Mandatory counseling sessions telling seniors how to end their life sooner.
Investor’s Business Daily: The health care reform bill outlaws private insurance
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I absolutely agree. The biggest danger facing the United States is from the fanatical Republican right.
They are basically cracking under the pressure of contemporary life, and it’s dangerous.
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 4:25 am 4:25 am
Potato – No, I mean exactly what I said.
Conservatives have their eye on the mid-term elections and the White House in just over three years’ time. They have already been whipped into a frenzy by right-wing radio and commentators.
They will do whatever it takes even if it means undermining a message with which they agree just because it is a Democrat President delivering it to the country’s 13 to 17 year olds.
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 4:27 am 4:27 am
So Potatoe….the communist dictatorship is just around the corner…you have posted many so called “sources” to back you claim…please explain why the financial markets have not picked this up? why has there been a rally of 35% in 3 months? explain this for me (probably an unfair question I admit, after all, I am an economist by trade, and you presumably are not)…but help us understand how he markets are getting this so wrong…if we are about to nationalize the entire economy as you propose, the market would be crashing to near zero…strange, eh?
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 4:33 am 4:33 am
This is just plain wrong holding back students from the President of the US of talking to the youth in America about education and making the world a better place. Reagen did and Bush the 1st did it also.This is not a election year and this about who to vote for,but to show our youth that education is the key to a stronger America.
When in 4 or 8 yrs. when maybe a new GOP President is in office,would you them want your children held back from listening to the President then? Its disrespectful ,it more right wing radical trash that doesn’t need to be taught to our children.If your unhappy with our President,then vote him out in 2012 ,but lets not let our children be taught to be disrespectful towards the Commander in Chief !It just isn’t right!!!
Posted by: Ken | September 4, 2009, 4:35 am 4:35 am
Potatoe….I dont need and econimics lesson as I am an economist, but thanks …all you are doing is cutting and pasting from dubious sources…anyone can do that…and btw, the Bloomberg article was an “hypothetical”….do you know what that is…? anyway, so lets just assume you are right, that the President is not a socialist at all, but actually a flaming communist manchurian candidate (as it seems this is now where you and FoxNews are going – right over the edge together)…what next..? given we have THREE branches of government, and it is highly unlikely that the military is going to back Mr Obama’s “communist coup”…where does this all lead…please educate us in detail about how the country will have become a communist dicatatorship by end of 2012….LOL
You mean you haven’t heard about Obama circumventing the Check and balance system with all his CZARS? Or that Congress is overloaded with crooks like pelosi/reid/franks? BTW, what I put up really wasn’t an economics lesson—and if you were an economist as you claim, you would know this.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 4:39 am 4:39 am
This is nothing but manufactured hysteria from wacked-out radical right-wingnuts.
Posted by: skcuSreppaT | September 4, 2009, 4:40 am 4:40 am
Is anybody else here old enough to remember the days when a framed photograph of the President could be found in living rooms across the country? I guess we were REALLY “indoctrinated” by our “dear leaders” back in those days.
Posted by: WWW | September 4, 2009, 4:40 am 4:40 am
“Limbaugh: “President Obama . . . wants to mandate circumcision.”
Now why don’t you tell the truth?? Limbaugh was commenting on an article in the NEW YORK TIMES (hardly a right-wing rag, right?).
Since you want to spew lies, here’s the direct quote from the article:
“Public health officials are considering promoting routine circumcision for all baby boys born in the United States to reduce the spread of H.I.V., the virus that causes AIDS.
The topic is a delicate one that has already generated controversy, even though a formal draft of the proposed recommendations, due out from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by the end of the year, has yet to be released.”
Check out that VA handbook, by the way. Instead of listening to your left wing nutcase talking points, why don’t you actually do some research on some of this drivel you’ve been posting ad nauseum for hours?
Posted by: gabe | September 4, 2009, 4:44 am 4:44 am
“Party First, Country Second – if convenient” should be the official motto of the far right.
Posted by: The_Mick | September 4, 2009, 4:45 am 4:45 am
Let’s be honest with ourselves folks…we have been giving the wingnuts the benefit of the doubt for months, just gently patting them on the head and saying “there, there, it will be alright” and laughing at them….but it is now clear that FoxNews(who have dropped all references to “fair and balanced” recently), WND, and other right wing outlets are deadly serious about undermining this President to hound him out of office…they cannot tolerate a mixed race, progressive minded person in the WH. They are going to keep going furhter over the edge (birth conspiracies, socialists (now Communist, death panel lies…this is dangerous and is going to lead to tragedy…we must challenge these lies and not let the zealots undermine our country.
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 4:48 am 4:48 am
talk about being a hypocrite all the republican party does is try to manipulate people to vote their way and now criticizes Obama for talking to school children. Republicans are un wiling to work together to help this country and wold rather run it into the ground that see a democrat in office. They want is to make the rich richer and keep the poor down, that’s their main goal any way you look at it, they want nothing to do with the working class.
Posted by: Tyler Sheppard | September 4, 2009, 4:48 am 4:48 am
potatoe – “You mean you haven’t heard about Obama circumventing the Check and balance system with all his CZARS? Or that Congress is overloaded with crooks like pelosi/reid/franks?”…..so where do I start? Presidents back to Nixon have had “Czars”….so was that wrong? second, where are your sources that Mrs Pelosi, Mr Reid, or Mr Frank have committed crimes, please source the charges or convictions…they have.
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 4:52 am 4:52 am
This Obama Administration is not to be trusted. They hire people with very faulty backgrounds for top jobs and are spending money for pay backs for Obama supporters. Over 82% of the people like the insurance/health care they have and that is the majority. Changing it would only give more control to the Obama Administration on your health, your life and your checkbook.
Posted by: Martin | September 4, 2009, 5:07 am 5:07 am
“This Obama Administration is not to be trusted.”
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What government is? The Republicans? Hahahahaha.
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 5:17 am 5:17 am
When is it right for anyone to play God and choose who should get help and who shouldnt.Yes we want to become sufficent,but yet that does not mean you chosse. So are kids get smarter and learn more, being that they could be people who save lifes but yet there jobs will be taken because people might just be left to die. What should our kids really be taught?
Posted by: Tabatha | September 4, 2009, 5:21 am 5:21 am
If nothing else, this controversy shows just how crazy and intolerant the GOP has become.
Posted by: jan | September 4, 2009, 5:28 am 5:28 am
“Now why don’t you tell the truth?? Limbaugh was commenting on an article in the NEW YORK TIMES (hardly a right-wing rag, right?).”
Go to Limbaugh’s web site and look up the transcript. He provides a link to the news story, on FOX, which is a definite right wing outlet. Then go to the Politifact (nonpartisan, Pulitzer Prize winning fact checker) web site and read their analysis of Limbaugh’s circumcision lie, and why they rate it “Pants on Fire.”
“Check out that VA handbook, by the way. Instead of listening to your left wing nutcase talking points, why don’t you actually do some research…”
I have read the entire VA “death manual” and Michael Steele is a baldfaced, boldfaced, barefaced liar. Again, check out the Politifact article about this Pants on Fire lie.
Posted by: Jess Sayen | September 4, 2009, 5:29 am 5:29 am
its amazing to watch the far right moving from meme, to meme…..the “socialist” tag was getting tired and not working so well, then there was the so called “missing birth certificate” and the President was not eligible to be in the WH, so they have moved onto the full-on “the President and his advisors are Communists” FoxNews meme….where does it all end…? President Obama is an Alien supreme leader…he is actually not human but android…LOL!
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 5:37 am 5:37 am
This is absolutely unbelieveable! The POTUS wants to speak to the nation’s children and the Republicans twist this to mean something else. It is clear as glass, that this is the Republicans attempt to stir up their mostly white GOP into thinking irrationally. People, take the time to read and form your own opinions, consider that the President of the US wants to talk to your children and encourage them to stay in school. If it bothers you that the President is black and this is your fear, then maybe you should let your children decide on their own wether they want to hear what the POTUS has to say. Because of your mindlessness you should not be able to make this decision for them. And you have to consider that because of this… you are more than likely an idiot.
Posted by: El_Democrat | September 4, 2009, 5:38 am 5:38 am
“If nothing else, this controversy shows just how crazy and intolerant the GOP has become.”
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I tend to agree. This issue is showing all of America just how idiotic the remnants of the fanatical Republican right have become.
I think this issue brings a lot of people back in full support of the President against the whackos.
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 5:42 am 5:42 am
This is for all you Left Wing Liberal/Progressive/Communist Democrats. You have proven in your statements that you favor a Marxist Government and a Marxist President (well documented if you can read).
Rave on about “right wing” but they are the only ones who believe in the Constitution and the Republic and are fighting to retain it vs your Communist President.
But you should learn to do your homework so you don’t advertise your hypocracy.
Posted by: Gregorovitch | September 4, 2009, 5:47 am 5:47 am
“Changing it would only give more control to the Obama Administration on your health, your life and your checkbook.” ….. sources please, where in HR3200 or any other bill for that matter, does it propose the governemnt running healthare….? this is a FoxNews meme that is blatantly false….the repeat over and over through out the day this idea the Health Insurance Reform is a “goverment run healthcare” system…this is a LIE, it is BLATANTLY FALSE….how can a serious journalistic org repeat this over and over again? guesss I answered my own question.
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 5:47 am 5:47 am
obama is the anti-christ..if nothing else he is definately anti-American
Posted by: s | September 4, 2009, 5:50 am 5:50 am
Obama is surrounding himself with radicals and communists to run the government. It is very, very strange that he won’t release his professional, educational or birth records.
Now we have a real mess going on and it is ripping our United States apart. Both parties are to blame, neither gave us decent, honest candidates in 2008. I literally wouldn’t trust Obama for the time of day. I am not a racist.
If you voted for him, recognize you have been conned and that there is something really wrong and unAmerican about this man, his background, and associates.
Posted by: Alberto | September 4, 2009, 5:57 am 5:57 am
“Over 82% of the people like the insurance/health care they have and that is the majority.”
Not quite.
According to a Time Magazine poll, 89% of respondents said they were currently covered by some kind of health insurance, and OF THAT GROUP 86% said they were “very” or “somewhat” satisfied with their plan.
The same poll asked “Would it be better to pretty much stay with the current healthcare system and just make some minor adjustments, or does the system need major reform?
55% Major Reform
43% Minor Adjustments
Posted by: Numeros | September 4, 2009, 6:01 am 6:01 am
“Obama is surrounding himself with radicals and communists to run the government. It is very, very strange that he won’t release his professional, educational or birth records.”……so, let’s give you the benefit of the doubt and say, yes Van Jones is a potential radical….who are all the other communists?…..and you can find President Obama’s birth certificate online…he submitted in June 2008 and it has been there ever since..its a hi res picture…look it up….
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 6:04 am 6:04 am
Criticize healthcare, the stimulus, cap and trade. That’s all fair but a speech to school kids is something every president has done and is appropriate when they are learning about American government. The tripe on global warming being shoved down their throats as part of a general push on religious environmentalism is far more questionable. The opposition needs to pick it’s battles. This is not one them. Besides, kids don’t notice the same things as adults. If you don’t make a big deal about it, they won’t either and if they say something about it, tell them your views. Parents values are still a far greater influence when they are young.
Posted by: bct | September 4, 2009, 6:04 am 6:04 am
“Over 82% of the people like the insurance/health care they have and that is the majority.”…………great, and under the current proposals, the 82% can keep their plans…the only change will their plans will become cheaper…and the other 18% can get improved coverage as well…what is wrong with this, exactly?
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 6:11 am 6:11 am
WHO ELSE WILL BE MISSING THE PRESIDENT’S SPEECH? 36 youths charged with murders for lunch money, anger over text messages they did not like, marijuana and the thrill of killing. That, is according to Detroit Free Press reporters, 35 teenagers — and one 12-year-old — instead — sit behind bars or in juvenile detention centers in Oakland County and Wayne County. A teacher at the University of Michigan, Institute For Social Research said these kids “must be so desensitized that they are unable to understand or appreciate what the victims might feel,” where he researches human aggression. “These are pretty horrific crimes with little motive.” Steve Miller, a forensic psychologist on Grosse Isle characterized the kids as those that “feel no empathy, the one emotion that stops people from hurting others.”
Neighbors, residents and parents “need to start paying attention,” said Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy. It would seem parents are paying attention.
Farmington Public Schools is encouraging parents to pull their kids from class during President Obama’s speech on the value of education and taking responsibility for education. goal setting.
Isn’t it strange that the university that study’s aggression under the auspices of observing helps to create this culture? No wonder students had to go to the NCAA for help. In a town like this — where death threats reported to law enforcement are ignored — the choice is for the threatened to leave the state — and return with the Joint Forces.
Posted by: WISDOM | September 4, 2009, 6:15 am 6:15 am
BO and his administration overreaches to the point of unconstitutional absurdity, seizes control of private businesses, stuffs the executive branch with lunatic “czars” and other self-professed Communists, spirals national spending and the deficit to unimaginable heights, and you lefties think don’t think parents should be concerned about him instructing their children how they can “help the president”?
Van Jones, the so called “Green Jobs Czar” signed on to the 9/11 “Truthers” – you know, the “Truthers” who believe George Bush and his administration either caused 9/11 or let it happen. And you people think right wingers are paranoid?
Posted by: SweetAlmondVerbena | September 4, 2009, 6:18 am 6:18 am
Wow Keith, THERE’S A BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE and you’re SCREAMING racism?!? What? The left lost all “privilege” of using the race card when a black man became the most powerful man in the world. Seriously, think up another excuse for what’s about to happen.
Posted by: Ryan | September 4, 2009, 6:22 am 6:22 am
Ryan there are lots of racists on the extreme right. Don’t kid yourself. And they are the ones trying to stir stuff up.
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 6:24 am 6:24 am
This event by Obama is contrived political propaganda with shades of North Korea’s tribute to the “great leader.” This type of juvenile brain washing by politicians has no place in our publicly funded schools and it should not be shown. Furthermore, it is an affront to the American people and they should be very worried about the course this government has taken. The schools can link the speech to their websites and the parents can watch it with their children if they desire but it should not be mandatory viewing for any child.
Posted by: rplat | September 4, 2009, 6:25 am 6:25 am
This is America. I’ll defend to the death the right of every democrat to speak their mind and protest policies against a republican administration that they dislike or detest. I would like to see that same reciprocation from democrats regarding the right of every republican and right-leaning independent to speak their minds and to protest policies against a democratic administration that they dislike or detest. Far from being bad for this nation, this type of point-counterpoint, even when it’s hostile to the point of being downright hateful is the cornerstone of American democracy and freedom and as loony as this may sound right now to everyone, I rejoice in our intrinsic and fundamental rights to disagree to keep democracy alive and well in this land, because out of our controversy is born change, and that change has been pretty good for us in the past 50-60 years, both as democrats and as republicans and as independents. Just look at where we were in 1950 compared to today. Steady, progressive growth of individual freedom with the pendulum swinging left to right and right to left to keep us centrist for each generational change. Ours is a beautiful system as long as we allow and even encourage dissent that’ll keep us strong and free and a land where the majority viewpoint rules with respect to minority viewpoint rights.
Posted by: Rob | September 4, 2009, 6:28 am 6:28 am
“This event by Obama is contrived political propaganda with shades of North Korea’s tribute to the “great leader.”
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More fear mongering . . .
kids I’m your President and I’m encouraging you to stay in school and try to do as best as you can . . it’s important to you.
Communism! Sacrilege!
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 6:28 am 6:28 am
indithinker said “under the current proposals, the 82% can keep their plans.” Only until the federal government decides that those plans don’t meet the “standards” they determine.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 4, 2009, 6:29 am 6:29 am
To wisdom- the claim that we are able to keep our private health insurance is false if the public option and the provisions of the health care bill force private health insurance companies out of business. No private companies, no choice to enroll in their plans. The government plan makes it less expensive for businesses to just pay the fine rather than provide health insurance to their employees. This would force millions of workers into the publice plan and run private insurers out of business. Obama knows this and he has been filmed in 2003 saying it would take a few years to run the private companies out of business so we would have a single payer system like The UK.
Posted by: mickeymat | September 4, 2009, 6:31 am 6:31 am
re: “”Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” Where have we heard this before — wait — I know that would be on January 20, 1961 in front of the nation — when JFK asked us to “ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.” In those days the schools in Michigan didn’t have a problem with broadcasting the President’s speech in classrooms. Today, I suppose,this speech would have been co-written by the citizens via ichat, or skyp — as twitter is a bit cumbersome for co-editing. Everybody wants to be a White House Speech writer.
Posted by: WISDOM | September 4, 2009, 6:31 am 6:31 am
Obama’s pal Bill Ayers, the weatherunderground terrorist, has written extensively about the need to “educate” children the correct way in order to bring about the radical change. The internet is chock full of videos with various Obama youth groups singing his praises or marching to his call for service.
Many of the textbooks and programs reommended by the Edu.Dept. NEA are slanted insidiously to the left and promote the leftwing take on history, government.
Now Obama is imposing himself and his cult of personality on America’s schoolkids.
Posted by: BigVaska | September 4, 2009, 6:33 am 6:33 am
re: “”Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” Where have we heard this before — wait — I know that would be on January 20, 1961 in front of the nation — when JFK asked us to “ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.” In those days the schools in Michigan didn’t have a problem with broadcasting the President’s speech in classrooms. Today, I suppose,this speech would have been co-written by the citizens via ichat, or skyp — as twitter is a bit cumbersome for co-editing. Everybody wants to be a White House Speech writer. In hindsight, Kennedy said it better.
Posted by: WISDOM | September 4, 2009, 6:33 am 6:33 am
Oh, good grief…..
Posted by: Lee | September 4, 2009, 6:36 am 6:36 am
“when do you hear the (extreme) right screaming racism??”
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Ryan, they’ve been screaming racism every chance they get. Have you not been following these abc blogs?
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Let’s see, we are going to help our kids get an education by having them burying their head in the sand? No, I think you’ll only get sand up your nose!
And all the communist talk on this thread? Look up kibbutz and then the political ideology of who signed Israel’s constitution. Now what? Yeah, we are a nation of idiots!
Posted by: R. Schauer | September 4, 2009, 6:40 am 6:40 am
The schools can link the speech to their websites and the parents can watch it with their children if they desire but it should not be mandatory viewing for any child.
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You tell em! I sayed it before and I’ll say it agin, we’s a gotta keep a close eye on them types and what theys saying to our impreshunable kids. These speaches should be rated R….nobody under 18 aloud to here em unless a company with a parent or gardyun. It ain’t like this boy is jest bustin’ up an old chifforobe, these is our younguns!
Posted by: Bob Ewell | September 4, 2009, 6:43 am 6:43 am
JULIETERRA, I have not seen one person say that Obama hates whites. I HAVE seen about 2,504,328 posts saying Whites hate Obama.
Posted by: Ryan | September 4, 2009, 6:43 am 6:43 am
Keep Politics out of the Schools! It has nothing to do with race. If Obama wants to give encouragement to students, he can do it through Public Service announcements on TV. There is enough on these kid’s plates already, they don’t need to get involved in politics so early in their lifes. Why not invest more in the programs already there like D.A.R.E. or maybe create a Presidential Reading Program or Physical Fitness program.
Posted by: Willy | September 4, 2009, 6:44 am 6:44 am
“Only until the federal government decides that those plans don’t meet the “standards” they determine.”…..ah here we go, “the government takeover” FoxNews meme…..and yes we know the new mem >> the POTUS is not a socialist now, but has been found to be a flaming communist and he was born in Kenya to commuist parents….blah, blah , blah….it would laughable if it was not so tragic to see a cable news network that has indoctrinated millions using lies and distortions….where will it all lead?
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 6:45 am 6:45 am
I still would like to know why this speech was not approved by school boards before going to the principals. Sounds to me like they are trying to dictate what our children are exposed to.
Posted by: Jerrie | September 4, 2009, 6:50 am 6:50 am
I will not allow any kids to see Obama at school. He is a “Ayers” style community organizer who is trying to “educate” kids. The problem is he himself has appointed people like is green czar, a radical Marxist, and this disqualifies Obama from ever being able to address our school district. Nobody trusts him and people are furious. Obama is finished.
Posted by: brian | September 4, 2009, 6:52 am 6:52 am
yeh, lets just follow the trajectory of he far right memes that FoxNews and WND and others put out there…..
so first he was a muslim, and then arab muslim, then he was a socialist, then he was a Kenyan not eligible for the WH, then the socialist one came back, now they moved on to the flaming communist one (socialist has lost its meaning from being used too much)……
suppose if we follow the Fox meme trajectory to 2012 – at that point they will be saying he was born on a faraway planet and is actually half silicon and half vegetable, and has had torrid ongoing affairs with underage cucumbers in the private Oval office bathroom…..
impeachment proceedings wil be started by Lindsay Graham……as result of the vegetable love affairs…
so by the time 2012 comes around, they will have gone so far over the edge, that the GOP will be totally discredited and revelaed to have been takenover by unhinged zealots, and the President wins a landslide of over 400 electoral votes….so from the immortal film The Truman Show ….”where does it all end”
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 7:01 am 7:01 am
As far as Im concerned we don’t need Obama telling our children to stay in school.
If Obama wants to preach that message he ought to be doing it in black schools where kids get pregnant at 13 and where 50% of them are too lazy to finish school anyway.
We do just fine, instilling in our children a sense of responsibility and a work ethic.
We don’t rely on the government for handouts.
Our kids don’t get preferential treatment
There are no quotas for our kids.
Obama should save his “stay in school speeches” for his own people.
They’re the ones who really need to hear that message
Posted by: Norris Hall | September 4, 2009, 7:02 am 7:02 am
“JULIETERRA, I have not seen one person say that Obama hates whites. I HAVE seen about 2,504,328 posts saying Whites hate Obama.”
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Ryan you haven’t been paying attention. Obama has been called a racist many a time in these postings.
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 7:04 am 7:04 am
Obama has many Communist in Office at the White House. Obama surrounds himself with Bill Ayer Types. Obama Czars must go. And Obama must be impeached. America does not want Communist in the White house write your senators, call the White House. Demand Obamam Fire VAN JONES!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jonn | September 4, 2009, 7:05 am 7:05 am
It would seem the issue is the “live feed.” Why not post it on you tube? Then parents can fast forward through the parts they don’t like?
Where I used to live — if teachers/faculty did not like a student taking responsibility for her own education — the teachers/faculty threatened to murder students — one of them called it “a preemptive strike.” And get this, if you report it to someone who allegedly has the authority to keep you out of harms way — the Office of the Vice President of General Counsel interferes and accuses you — the student — of making veiled threats against them.
If the parents don’t like what the president’s remarks — then why don’t they teach their children how to do a critical analysis about the pro’s and con’s of what the Presidents speech writer means?
Maybe the speech writer and media should get together and skip the Presidential broadcast completely. Or maybe the President should do a internet town hall meeting — and skip the speech all together. Q & A has it’s own rewards. We get to see the President think on his feet (or on his seat presuming the link up would come from the Oval Office)? The first President to speak directly to school children — wouldn’t that be George Washington? Back to basics would be an in person “meet and greet and Q & A.”
Posted by: WISDOM | September 4, 2009, 7:06 am 7:06 am
Want to reduce the drop-out rate? That’s easy. Take away the safety nets so when people drop out they fall flat on their faces. As long as government subsidizes failure the drop-out rate will rise.
Posted by: JohnQPublic | September 4, 2009, 7:06 am 7:06 am
“Obama has many Communist in Office at the White House. Obama surrounds himself with Bill Ayer Types”…..ok, so lets fire Van Jones….so who are all the other “communists” and can you source this?…..man-up
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 7:09 am 7:09 am
“Obama has many Communist in Office at the White House.”
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Yeah, prove it. Provide the names and proof of all these ‘communists’.
The only one you’ve got is a guy who ONCE said he was a ‘communist’. Was he card carrying? Is he still?
I was a Republican once. Does that mean I still am?
NOT AT ALL!
Posted by: julieterra | September 4, 2009, 7:14 am 7:14 am
This is the last straw for me. The Republican Party has been taken over by radical nuts that are starting to put the Taliban to shame. I’ve been a member of the Republican Party for 25 years, but as of today, they are history. Wish I had all the money back that I had contributed through the years.
Posted by: Janice | September 4, 2009, 7:15 am 7:15 am
IM THINKING THAT WE MUST B IN NORTH KOREA . THE ” GREAT LEADER ” WILL INSPIRE US TOO GREATER PRAISE OF THE ” GREAT LEADER ” WHAT IS GOING ON. WHERE IS MAINSTREAM MEDIA OBAMAISM OR RADICALISM DOES ANYONE SEE A DIFFERENCE. USA WAKE UP,GET OFF THE COUCH, THIS GUY IS GOING TO DESTROY ALL THAT BRAVE SOLDIERS HAVE FOUGHT FOR SINCE THE 1776 REVOLUTION. VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE OR ALL OF THEM ” DIED IN VAIN “
Posted by: roberta | September 4, 2009, 7:15 am 7:15 am
Classic GOP. Instead of exposing their children to another point of view, critically thinking, and discussing, the response is to censor. It is bad precedent. The problem is that most of the parents aren’t sure why they don’t like Obama, ‘cept that he’s a colored and has a “D” after his name. And he’s a Nazi and a Socialist.
Critical analysis is the only thing that can save this ignorant nation.
Posted by: Chuck Darwin | September 4, 2009, 7:23 am 7:23 am
I’m a parent of a third and fifth grader. I don’t believe it is appropriate for any adult to ask them to write him a letter telling him how they can help him. Our district is requiring a signed note to allow the students to watch. I’ll decide once I see the text of the speech.
By the way – part of the reason a lot of districts in Dallas aren’t watching is because they scheduled this during student lunch periods. They dont have time/space to move all the kids around.
Posted by: GL | September 4, 2009, 7:24 am 7:24 am
It shouldn’t be a tool for the right wing, but it’s OK to turn it into a tool for the left?
Posted by: dernhelm | September 4, 2009, 7:25 am 7:25 am
talk about brain washing! parent-censorship! what are they afraid of?
Posted by: teri | September 4, 2009, 7:25 am 7:25 am
It is truly amazing that this has turned into such a political issues. It is my understanding this is a speech about trying to encourage kids to stay in school and do well. What political issues will the President be discussing in the speech. For all those who say the President should stay out of schools, what about past Presidents? Why was it ok for them to actually go into schools? Wasn’t Bush actually in a school when 9/11 happended? Didn’t Regan go to schools to encourage kids? Why now is it such and issue?
It is sad to see people jump to conclusion about what the President is going to say to the kids? How many have actually hear or read the speech?
I am truly sadden by the lack of respect people have for this President? We are still sending soldiers (my son included) into a war started by Bush, yet people continue to defind him. Bush started the bail out of companies, I beleive we lost 5 millions jobs under his administration but this in now forgotten and the current President of 9 whole months gets blamed for EVERYTHING.
Posted by: Carol | September 4, 2009, 7:27 am 7:27 am
umm…how does a lesson plan change from “helping the president” to “achieving your educational goals”? how are they even related? that’s like changing the lesson plan from “why the north won the civil war” to “fdr and the court packing plan.” sorry, but it does smack of indoctrination when you’re asking elementary school kids “how can you help the president” when anyone who has taught school knows that elementary school kids are taught by “directed” learning approaches. and that’s not an indictment of directed learning. it’s simply an educational approach based upon an understanding that young children need direction in formulating what are to them, fairly complex thought processes. so, the question becomes, upon what basis and under what influences are these responses directed. it’s one thing to do directed learning on things like “what are your 5 favorite things about school?” it’s quite another to ask 7 years olds how they can help the president. and if the answers come out stuff like “get health care for everyone” and “stop global warming through cap and trade” you know where that’s coming from. and just because bush I and reagan did it doesn’t make it any less creepy. i don’t want any politician addressing my children when i’m not present.
Posted by: davidfrat21 | September 4, 2009, 7:30 am 7:30 am
I wonder why ABC has latched on to this typical Fox story like it is really news. A small segment of the population thinks everything President Obama offers is subversive to their ideals. I think his taking the time to challenge our children to work hard and make this a
good school year, is commendable.
Patricia
Posted by: Patricia | September 4, 2009, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Obama wants to brainwash these children to accept his death panels which will really be DEATH SQUADS. Groups of doctors sent out by the goverment to subtlely convince the millions of weak and old and sick people to sign their own death warrants. God help us!
Posted by: 123avs | September 4, 2009, 7:35 am 7:35 am
So Cav16…care to weigh in….? Where is the trajectory of conspiracy theory going on the POTUS…? from Arab Muslim, to Socialist, to Kenyan, to Nazim to Socialist again (till that got tired), and now on to Communist …what’s next once this one gets disproved as well? cmon and man-up…
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 7:37 am 7:37 am
This much-to-do-about-nothing would be funny if it was not so pathetic. It mirrors the lies of the Right about Health Care Reform, and has been fanned into a raging fire by the contemptible Fox News and the right wing radio crazies.
The right wing loony tunes should not even be given press time and space. They should be ignored as they have nothing of any use to add to society.
Posted by: Rob | September 4, 2009, 7:38 am 7:38 am
“Obama wants to brainwash these children to accept his death panels”…..uh hate to inform you …the “endo fo life counselling” proposal (aka by Mrs Palin) as “death panels, was put in the bill by Republicans….doh!
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 7:39 am 7:39 am
It has nothing to do with what he’ll say. It has nothing to do with Reagan and Bush doing something similar in the past. It has nothing to do with my political persuasion.
No President or politician should be appropriating part of a school day to address students, however benign the message might be. It sets a terrible precedent, possibly foreseeing a time when the message might not be innocuous.
In this regard, I believe in separation of school and state.
Posted by: sagman44 | September 4, 2009, 7:40 am 7:40 am
You’ve got a President that surrounds himself with advisors and Czars which lean toward the far Left, are radicals, and admitted Communists. Why wouldn’t parents be suspicious of anything he wants to say through the schools?
Posted by: Bill | September 4, 2009, 7:45 am 7:45 am
BREAKING NEWS……GLENN BECK SCOOP OUT TODAY…
you think it was big, that Mr Beck uncovered that Mr Obama is an Arab Muslim, a Socialist, a Communist, and actually Kenyan born…JUST WAIT til today’s show!
According to sources …Mr Obama WAS BORN not in KENYA BUT A FARAWAY PLANET and is actually half silicon and half vegetable, and has been engaging in a torrid affair with underage cucumbers in the private Oval office bathroom
impeachment proceedings will be started by Lindsay Graham the spokesman said today……as result of these perverted vegetable love affairs.
so by the time 2012 comes around, god only knows what we will learn about this President….PASS THE WORD ON!!! Watch BECK TONIGHT!!!!
Posted by: indithinker | September 4, 2009, 7:49 am 7:49 am
You know the kids in Michigan who are in jail for murder — the Detroit Free Press mentioned they have diagnoses of Attention Deficit Disorder. That happened to me to –in my 40′s because I was suffering from hypoxia (lack of oxygen) and I was hemmorhaging internally — so the doctor prescribed Straterra and my medical record looks like I have a psychiatric disorder – so now I have to go back and change all of the medical records. As for “pressured speech” I was unable to eat normally because nothing would go through — so I managed to eat a fig newton — and my blood sugar shot up — and then i spoke rapidly because of all the sugar in my system — and then the call it rapid speech and all of a sudden someone wanted to give me a pill for bi polar — only I said no — and then what happened — I ended up in emergency 1/2 dozen more times — before someone cut out 4 inches of my intestine — because the student who repaired my hernia (without my permission) entrapped my nerves and twisted my intestines and created the bowel obstruction that nearly killed me — only it’s not over yet — I do not believe those students have ADHD or are bipolar — I think the food they eat is causing the problem. There’s arsenic in Washtenaw County water — and that’s just for starters — because if you don’t use faucet filters in South Eastern Michigan — the likelihood you will lose your physical health is higher than you can possibly imagine — and that is how “psychiatric diagnoses” happen. The biological corridor ought to be shut down and those who invented the drugs and the psychiatric diagnoses ought to be in prison instead of earning a living causing problems for the students so their lawyers will pretend to earn a living. The educational system in Michigan is a travesty. It’s place where students learn to be cruel by watching what faculty do enforced by lawyers who violate the constitution. This is not the United States of America that we knew. The first step — is get a change of venue. if the President wants to speak to kids — do it after school — he doesn’t need the class room.
Posted by: WISDOM | September 4, 2009, 7:54 am 7:54 am
How are our kids supposed to become good little Obamajugend if we don’t send them to school to hear our Dear Leader speak?
Posted by: Clyde | September 4, 2009, 7:54 am 7:54 am
As much as we liberals hated Bush, we NEVER said Bush shouldn’t talk to children. You rightwingers have some issues.
Posted by: mdell27 | September 4, 2009, 8:03 am 8:03 am
These snakes only changed the plans because we found out about them. Thank goodness for the internet! When they came up with this lesson plan, I’m sure they all felt it was perfectly worded, not “inartfully” worded. I’m sure they felt it was too conservative and didn’t go far enough. But they got caught and had to backtrack with some ridiculous story. I’d like to know – who wrote it? Shouldn’t they be fired for such inartfulness?
Posted by: J4140 | September 4, 2009, 8:08 am 8:08 am
It’s all pretty incredible. It all boils down to 2 ways of looking at the universe…it’s the problem that has always existed. There have always been ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’ (all over the world, at all times) When the revolution was fought, Republican types joined the Tories, when the Civil War was fought, the South behaved pretty much the way it is behaving now. You people who hate Obama don’t want to come to terms with what you are. But if you stop watching Fox News for just one day…it might dawn on you. It’s not a pretty picture.
Posted by: goldstarmother | September 4, 2009, 8:17 am 8:17 am
My kids will have the Constitional flu Tuesday. I don’t accept a dictator,liar or a man who refuses to show he isn’t an illegal alien to the American people. He doesn’t have his own kids in Public schools and therefore has his nerve to think he can motivate them in anyway shape or form. This in an attempt to molest young minds and bend and shape them into his diabolical and sinister plans to destroy America. Don’t tread on me or my children. He has said it very clearly my kids are off limits ! well sir, so are mine so back off.
Posted by: miffed american | September 4, 2009, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Who in the world comes up with this stuff?
Posted by: LongT | September 4, 2009, 8:26 am 8:26 am
Next we’ll have Nanny Pelosi on Barney with Kermit the Frog?
Posted by: LongT | September 4, 2009, 8:27 am 8:27 am
I can’t believe the ignorance of some parents. They choose to keep there kids out of school because of a speech. That’s why this country will never move in a positive direction.There’s too much hate in this country. This is not about the kids,this is about some of you hating Barack obama. Some of you want things to stay the way they are that’s why everything obama does and says is cut down by some of you. So selfish, so ignorant and so hateful
Posted by: vanessa penney | September 4, 2009, 8:32 am 8:32 am
The only brainwashing these kids are getting is from the ignorant parent that keep them out of school. This country has been headed downhill way before Barack Obama. Open your eyes American kids are behind some of the poorest countries when it comes to education. You can block Obama’s objectives but you can’t stop the downfall of this great country of yours.
Posted by: Craig Jenkins | September 4, 2009, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Let me begin by saying that I sense I great deal of media irresponsibility. Why are you guys wasting our time igniting sentiments of hate and lies from some who simply refuse to do some research for the truth? Health Care Reform town hall meeting disruptions; now President Obama’s simple education speech viewed by some as a violation of the Constitution, brain washing, indoctrination and all that nonsense. Give me a break! It is nothing but hate and the fact is for those who care and should care, women will outnumber men in the work force and perhaps lead this country in the very near future(Economix NY Times Aug 10 2009); blacks are making great progress in higher education (US department of Education statistics for 2007) and the population of the minority will become the majority in the next 20 years (US Census Bureau). So, if there is any fear by those who still refuse to accept the truth, perhaps the above will awaken their senses.
I wonder what happened in 2001 when these very people supported a President who by my account cost this nation more harm in every avenue you could think of. We now have a leader who is working just as hard to correct all of the wrongs inflicted upon, the rich, the middle class, the poor and violated the Constitution, wrecked our economy for which I’m a victim of unemployment for 8 months and counting.
“Wake up America!” as Senator Kerry warned you in the months leading to the 2004 election. Change is coming and it is real. This nation’s demographics are changing and everyone needs to pay attention including the media.
Posted by: Saul | September 4, 2009, 8:42 am 8:42 am
If this is true, that parents are calling to complain that the President of the United States has a positive message for schoolchildren… and are threatening to keep their children out of school – how UNPATRIOTIC can they be? He’s not asking the kids to become Democrats, is he? He’s not telling them to spy on their parents, is he? He’s not promising them he’ll start a new war so they can all get the ‘chance’ to serve their country is he? They are actually betraying the Great USA. I’ll bet I know which party they belong to… and I bet I know who’s behind this.. Rove/Cheney/Limbaugh… true UnAmericans, they are.
Posted by: sevresblue | September 4, 2009, 8:43 am 8:43 am
I’ve heard they won’t show it in Shelby County Tennessee but will in the Memphis City Schools.
Posted by: Mustang | September 4, 2009, 8:43 am 8:43 am
I agree with Carol (nicely said). People are taking this way out of context. What’s wrong with President Obama speaking to our children?..if more parents took the time to speak to their own children, then maybe the dropout rate wouldn’t be so great in this country.
Posted by: Shonnan | September 4, 2009, 8:45 am 8:45 am
123avs – the guys in the white coats are on their way…. get ready!
Posted by: sevresblue | September 4, 2009, 8:45 am 8:45 am
I can tell you WHY a lot of parents have a problem with the president addressing the students. It’s not because he’s going to get up and tell the kids to stay in school, or that he’s even talking to our kids, as some of you oddly think. It’s because that, as a parent, I have to wonder if this little speech is really about the kids and their education, or is it really all about Obama? Have any of you actually read the preparatory materials that the White House is encouraging teachers to use after his speech? On a couple of the pages (7-12th grades), every other word is “Obama.” What exactly does asking questions like, “What are the three most important words in President Obama’s speech,” and then asking the child to rank them, have anything to do with the importance of education? Good luck trying to answer that one in a way that makes sense.
Posted by: Aaron | September 4, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am
The right-wight wing hysteria is trying to control a country, even though they lost the last election. They have been so successful at screeching whatever political epithet that they can – accusing Obama of being extreme right-wing (fascist) or extreme left-wing communist. They just can’t seem to make up their minds.
We have entered the age of American Unreason, where discourse is replaced by the absurdly politically correct notion that %60 of the electorate are cultists to Obama, and their Children Must Be Protected.
And the school districts and the media are pandering to their loudness as if they represent any sort of legitimate point of view.
It’s time for a revolution, all right, but instead of slitting our wrists, we should actually try to understand and study the issues. And teach our children to be able listen and learn for themselves.
Posted by: Mike Haubrich, FCD | September 4, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I now think it’s okay for anyone who wants to keep their child from hearing the President talk about education.
It’s possible all that tinfoil their kids would wear to school would interrupt the transmission.
Posted by: Tim | September 4, 2009, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Hugo Chavez style indoctrination! we should stop it now!
Posted by: scott jeffries | September 4, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am
“Have any of you actually read the preparatory materials that the White House is encouraging teachers to use after his speech?”
Yes.
“On a couple of the pages (7-12th grades), every other word is ‘Obama.’”
Liar, liar, pants on fire!
Posted by: Rudy | September 4, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Idiots! I’m so sick of the lying GOP talking about socialism all the time, and the moronic American public swallows it whole..gee, nobody bitched a fit when Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.” The GOP is a disgrace..they keep disseminating lies to try to destroy anything that needs to be accomplished.
Posted by: leogorky | September 4, 2009, 9:08 am 9:08 am
Racism, racism, racism…
Posted by: leogorky | September 4, 2009, 9:10 am 9:10 am
for those who say it’s all about republican v. democrat, you couldn’t be more wrong. there are many moderate, independents who simply don’t want any politician beaming into classrooms. and as far as the “positive” educational message, how is asking children to write missives about how they can help the president an educational message? and why would the white house change the lesson to something completely different… “how to achieve your educational goals” if the original plan was about the same thing? can anyone explain to me how a letter about helping the president is the same as achieving personal goals in education? and i just love the attack from some about parents being the problem, and if they’d simply talk to their children then the president wouldn’t have to. so, obama’s a surrogate mom and dad now? give me a break. i’m neither a dem or rep, but i’m not thrilled with the president using school time to advance himself…and that’s what this is about. dude is trying to make himself a 24/7/365 media presence. if he had his way, his photo would be mandatory wallpaper on everyone’s computer.
Posted by: davidfrat21 | September 4, 2009, 9:16 am 9:16 am
I would like to say thanks to all those parents who are keeping their kids from listening to our president. It just lets me know that racism is still alive and well in the US. How dare a black man, that was elected by the people to be the president of the United States, speak to our children and encourage them to do well in school. United States, yeah right! We are just as separate as we were in the 60′s. Thanks white republicans and Fox News for showing that you are still just as hateful as you have always been. Why don’t you just do what you really want to do and call the the president the n-word and go on about your lives. You republicans completely disgust me and now I will never vote for anyone in your party.
Posted by: TB | September 4, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am
“On a couple of the pages (7-12th grades), every other word is ‘Obama.’”
For the record, the classroom activities document contains 1,240 words. The name “Obama” appears 9 times in the body and once in the header.
Man, when these right wingers tell a lie, they really do it up good!
Posted by: Rudy | September 4, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am
You have to put this speech into current political context. Conservatives believe that young people voted for Obama based on VERY little understanding of his ideology and of our history. He was well spoken (reads well from teleprompters), pushed all the right PC buttons, and played all the right emotional notes. When we hear he is going to use the power of the presidency to thrust himself into the classrooms, we are skeptical. When we read that the WH has prepared lesson plans, warning lights go off. Then we hear part of that lesson plan is to write about how they can help the president, and the firestorm starts.
So no. This is not just about a speech from a President. There are very real reasons for the reaction and they were created by this administration.
My daughters teacher has said she will keep it down the center and I will trust her.
Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2009, 9:27 am 9:27 am
What will be done with said “letters”? Will they be turned over to the school counselor? Is there red flag criteria? Will the “letters” subsequently be reviewed by a panel? What if the “letters” do not meet the goals and agenda of the party and it’s “ruler”? No child is the property of a school, DHS, doctor, or any other state sponsored entity including the president. I do not want to see children used as political pawns in an attempt to subvert the family unit. They are not to be used to inculcate contempt for any person who does not go along with a socialist agenda. Given obama’s past “friends”, I would not allow him to communicate anything to my child unless I were present.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 4, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am
OMG! This is insane. Get a grip people! Nearly every president makes comments about education to students. Prohibiting students FROM listening to this wise message is no different than closing libraries and burning books. (By the way, this message is MUCH better than the message sent by Palin’s pregnant teenage, unwed daughter who was paraded on national television!)
I am quickly becoming of the opinion that conservatives are COMPLETELY NUTS! Their priorities are totally screwed up.
Posted by: jmb | September 4, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
The real shame here is that everybody, both supporter and critics, believe in their hearts that the President of the United States would (or should) use this speech to pitch a political agenda to school children.
Has the office been debased that much in a mere 7 months ?
Posted by: John Q Public | September 4, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am
These parents are overreacting. Students need to listen to what their leaders/rulers have to say. Beaming this message into classrooms only makes sense. It’s not like they could watch C-SPAN for this kind of lesson. And this lesson is sorely needed nationwide. If Obama doesn’t tell students to study, have goals, etc. who will? Teachers? Parents? Come on!
Posted by: I. Pledge | September 4, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am
This is outrageous. Have these parents lost their minds or are they so brainwashed by the previous administration and current republican lies and scare tactics that they can not think for themselves! This makes me sick!
Posted by: confidential416 | September 4, 2009, 10:06 am 10:06 am
jmb-Not by a president taught by a racist, America hating Rev. or a domestic terrorist.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 4, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Obama is a joke and not a very funny one
Posted by: Sam Adams | September 4, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
I think these parents are overreacting and once again are blowing things out of proportion.
Posted by: confidential416 | September 4, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Wow! Now I know why Michael Savage calls Liberalism a mental disorder. I thought after all the facts were shown about what this hopey changey is really all about, people would get it. A lot did, but there are still the brain dead lurking around. A big gathering right here. Our “ruler”, WHAT? Yeah, it’s cause he’s black, not because he’s a marxist. WOW! You people will be the death of this country.
Posted by: Dianne | September 4, 2009, 10:15 am 10:15 am
I’ve read the lesson plan materials and it’s classic lesson plan structure: ask questions about what you’re going to be listening to, what you are listening to, and what you have listened to. The preparatory materials ask students to do some research about the presidency in general and who is the current office holder. Many of the follow-up questions relate to personal reflection and goals.
Standard stuff. Watching the overblown, frankly insane reaction to this episode makes me wonder if we *shouldn’t* have some type of licensing for people before they can become parents.
grow up, people. your side lost an election. our nation has survived much more than the last eight months (the last 8 years, for instance).
Posted by: Anon | September 4, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am
The county I work in has left showing this speech up to the individual teachers. Most teachers are opting out of showing this speech becasue of the attitudes of parents in the communtiy. The teachers are not sure if the county office will back them or stab them in the back if parents complain about the speech. I have 100 students and have had 76 emails from parents telling me they do not wish thier child to view this speech while at school. The entire speech is being released to schools to preview, so I do not see what the big deal is.
Posted by: Debbie | September 4, 2009, 10:32 am 10:32 am
fascinating comments here.
I, for one, did not realize that presidents had no other leadership function besides electioneering (though I was beginning to think that was the case over the last 8 years), or that elementary students were among the democrats’ biggest voting block.
Posted by: jrcjr | September 4, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am
jmb and others, you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills before attacking parents for wanting to control what their children are exposed to.
It’s not all conservatives, believe me. It is independents and moderates who don’t like the lesson plan. Remember, people aren’t objecting to the president telling kids to study hard and stay in school. That would be fine.
Stick with me here. The problem was the original lesson plan that the DoE produced to structure instruction before, during and after the speech. These were the questions:
Why is it important that we listen to the president and elected officials?
Why is what they say important?
What is the president trying to tell me? What is he asking me to do?
What new ideas is he challenging me to think about?
What specific jobs is he asking me to do?
Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers, parents, principals?
What does the president want us to do?
Does the speech make you want to do anything?
Are we able to do what the president is asking of us?
The above was the original lesson plan. Nothing about how we the people are the government. Nothing about how individual citizen choice is the key feature of free American democratic society.
Nothing about how the president serves at the pleasure of the people, not the other way around.
The kids are not supposed to see themselves as in service to the desires of the president. They’re supposed to learn the civic responsibility they have to remain vigilant on government, and make sure it adheres to the it’s constitutional strictures.
You don’t want all these ideas put in terms of this president, but in general terms of the country and government as a whole. They’re not supposed to feel they’re supposed to serve and obey the president.
Yes, some of the above were changed due to pressure. But the fact remains, that was the original intent of this exercise. That’s why people don’t trust him.
Posted by: mr | September 4, 2009, 10:36 am 10:36 am
If this isn’t ignorant, I don’t know what is. Parents upset because this man wants to encourage kids to work hard in school. What’s wrong with this picture. I know these same people want Obama out of the Whitehouse but it’s ignorant when parents prefer to let their kids stay home because of this .THIS COUNTRY WILL NEVER MOVE FORWARD, NEVER. There’s too much hate and ignorance in this country
Posted by: vanessa penney | September 4, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am
As a retired school teacher my question is, if there are so many “smart” people in D.C. why can’t they write a plan, any plan , and get it right? Why do they have to rewrite it again and again?Talking about lesson plans. So don’t tell me it’s not about “HIM”
And while we’re on the subject of race, I believe there is such a thing as reverse racism. But we are too scared to bring that up. Just because we disgree on policies does not mean we are
racists.
I guess if Hillary had won and we didn’t like her policies, we would be called” Woman Haters?
Posted by: pam | September 4, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Clearly a list of nefarious questions that are meant to undermine the lack of respect shown by our children and encouraged by their parents for our teachers, educational system, police, and authority figures in general, mr.
…Oh wait. These are questions that are meant to undermine a lack of respect for a president for a party other than your own.
Posted by: jan | September 4, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Anon, again, you all are deliberately “misunderstanding” the source of the discontent. What you read is the NEW lesson plan after the original one that caused the furor. That original version is posted below.
This is an effort to make anyone who disagrees with this administration out to be crazy, wacky and extreme. It’s also an effort to belittle and mock the authority parents are supposed to have over their own children.
People aren’t buying it, and this has cost Obama trust. The original intent was obvious in that first lesson plan. It was way out of line as far as an in-school lesson plan, exhorting students to direct action to “help” the president. That’s not civics, that’s giving instructions.
Posted by: mr | September 4, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
The true sad part about all this is that those who don’t want this “brainwashing” to occur are hiding their children from this rather than taking the time to discuss it with them and explain what you don’t agree with. If I don’t hear it or see it, it isn’t true, correct? Rather than listen to opposing viewpoints and debating them, it is much easier for opponents to just not allow those thoughts and ideas to be expressed in the first place. You aren’t giving your children a chance to think for themselves, you are doing the brainwashing. Let your children think for themselves rather than just become your clone.
Posted by: Lloyd | September 4, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am
As I said earlier, Lee Chen, I would never pull my kids out of school because Bush was addressing them. I would tell them that I think he’s a total idiot and then I would send them to school as usual to listen to… what an hour?… of speech and then continue their school day as usual.
Posted by: jan | September 4, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Also, pulling them out of school indicates a lack of belief in your own children and the values you taught them
Posted by: jan | September 4, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am
I live in Houston. I called my children’s school district to find out if they were going to allow the students to hear the speech. I was told that they were leaving it up to the campuses. I called each school. The first said they were holding tests that day. Which had not been scheduled by the way its not on their own calendar. But that the speech would be recorded and IF the teacher wanted to play it at a later date the teacher would have to send out permission slips. The second school said it was up to the teacher. When I asked to speak to the teacher to find out if she would be playing it the principal said no. Teachers did not have to explain their position. I have a problem with that explanation when these very teachers talk to my children about VERY personal issues. (drug addiction, sexual encounters, etc.) I will be doing my research to see if these campuses held other “political activities”. I am sick and tired of this double standard. I don’t have a problem with the oposition speaking up that is their right but let me exercise mine as well. Everybody is walking around angry and feel that they are not being heard. If everybody would just stop and ask questions and actually listen to the response you can then take a stand. WE ALL NEED TO LISTEN or we will ALL pay the price.
Posted by: Sally | September 4, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am
From a vantage point outside the USA and with no axe to grind or political agenda. I believe this has all the hallmarks of a no confidence vote in anything you do now Mr president because you are hiding your trans-parent documentation. This is now becoming a battle between those with Christian values who respect the spirituality of the founding fathers. As this affects the most powerful man in the world controlling a nuclear arsenal of mass destruction this subject is gaining interest outside of USA. Is Americas standard still IN GOD WE TRUST?
Posted by: Col UK | September 4, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
How do you know I saw a “second” lesson plan?
When you are asking questions about a particular speech, it is common to include the name of the specific speaker.
And whether you like it or not, the election of the first non-white president of the U.S. is a major event in history, so it is worth discussion when that president speaks to a group of Americans.
“This is an effort to make anyone who disagrees with this administration out to be crazy, wacky and extreme.”
I honestly don’t care if you disagree with this administration. What I do disagree with is this outrageous, insane attempt to make this speech into something malicious, evil, and evidence of some sort of fascist plot. That is the precise definition of crazy, wacky and extreme. There have been instances of presidents addressing children in schools before, including St. Ronnie the Reagan.
“It’s also an effort to belittle and mock the authority parents are supposed to have over their own children.”
Only when those parents teach their children hate for the occupant of the legitimately elected leader of the nation. (or, for that matter, those gross displays of childish behavior during the recent town hall meetings toward elected officials and people with different viewpoints).
You can disagree with the president all you want, but this is the government we have.
Posted by: anon | September 4, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Younger people tend to be less xenophobic and more internationally-oriented than many older people. Thus they are more likely to make comparisons of US policy (health care for example) with other countries, instead of just chanting “USA!” or following a formulaic ideology.
They also tend to be more supportive of government programs, more inclined to work in groups, and more accepting of different people and cultures.
It’s easy to see why that would make conservatives worry about their future political prospects.
It’s therefore very important that they demonstrate a burning hatred for the Presidency and for Obama himself, as well as violently resisting any attempt to improve our country, because disrespect and paranoia are clearly the way to make our young people start to be conservative again.
Right?
Posted by: Brian Griffin | September 4, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Les Chen: You people are seriously out of your mind. He’s just talking to kids about bettering their education. Pres. Bush did it Pres Reagan did it so the only reason I can think of is the white people are scared again so they are making a fuss about nothing. I am white and I can totally see through all your lies because I know people in my personal life who have the same reaction to this and I know why they do it.
Posted by: brian | September 4, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Maybe they should also teach evolution that week and just let all the nuts take a long vacation.
Posted by: Ron | September 4, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am
You can add school districts in Pennsylvania too. Our school district has a best practice policy to review all material before it is used in the classroom. The WH is releasing the speech on Monday, which in case someone forgot, is a holiday. The teachers won’t be in school to “review” the speech. There is a difference between a President speaking at one school and having it nationally televised, and having a President speak with the intention of EVERY school hearing it. This also, once again, points to incompetence in certain areas of the President’s administration that half of the schools have already started, and many more don’t start until September 9th. Not exactly well prepared.
Posted by: Amy | September 4, 2009, 11:03 am 11:03 am
As a retired school teacher my question is, if there are so many “smart” people in D.C. why can’t they write a plan, any plan , and get it right? Why do they have to rewrite it again and again?Talking about lesson plans. So don’t tell me it’s not about “HIM”
And while we’re on the subject of race, I believe there is such a thing as reverse racism. But we are too scared to bring that up. Just because we disgree on policies does not mean we are
racists.
I guess if Hillary had won and we didn’t like her policies, we would be called” Woman Haters?
Posted by: pam | Sep 4, 2009 10:45:15 AM
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If Hillary had won the election, this wouldn’t be happening to this extreme degree. I “was” one of you until very recently. I am not a racist and I didn’t vote for this President but I will not stand with such ugly people. I expect to turn on the TV in the future and hear one of you has taken him out. This has gone too far and is officially beyond the pale. I mean, come on…only one race in America is freaking out like this…not Asians, not blacks, not Hispanics, not Native Americans etc etc.
Posted by: Kim | September 4, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
The Republicans are now in their “silly season.” Now, they just look petty and small. They don’t want the President talking to their children about studying, making good grades and going on to possibly attaining your goals in life. What a bad thing that would be.
Yet, these same people want Creationism taught in the schools. Well I for one do not want anyone talking to my children about anything concerning religious belief without me being present. The only person I want communicating with my children concerning anything on religion is myself, my husband or our priest. I don’t want some teacher of who knows what denomination indoctinating my child with their religous concepts without me being present. In the states where this teaching of Creationism is part of the school curriculum parents need to step up and demand that it be optional or that they the parents be present in the classroon when it is being taught. And yes I would be there because my child’s religious upbringing is my responsibility not the public schools. So, if you don’t want the President to speak to your children just keep in mind that many of us do not want your religious beliefs being taught in a public school setting where all are required to participate whether they agree of not.
Posted by: I've had it | September 4, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
When anyone (other than the press) looks at the make-up of the staff surrounding BHO, we have concluded that with the likes of Jones and others they are a bunch or Radical, Hate America, Facists or Chicago Political thugs of Union, ACLU, SCIU, ACORN make-up.
With that now known by most and based on recent statements / actions such as characteriszing Veterans as potential terrorists, turn over e-mails to the WH,and more recently suggesting that those opposed to healthcare are radical terrorists spured on by a news channel… WHY SHOULD W BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM THE WH TO BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A POLITICAL GAME AIMED AT WEAKENING OUR COUNTRY TO THEIR VISION.
In another time these little steps would have been called Communist Pioneer (youth) development activities to creat a mind-set for the state!
NEWS FLASH MORE OF US ARE ANGRY AT THE SPENDING, THE CZARS, THE POLICIES, THE APPOLGIES!
Posted by: NeoConVet | September 4, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Teachers in the county I work in just received a lesson plan check list that we have to complete prior to showing this speech in class. Basically we have to show how the speech relates to the standards that we MUST teach. If we can not relate the speech to the standards we can not show the speech in class. We also revieved permission forms that we must have parents sign if we wish to show the speech. Like I stated eariler most are not planning to show the speech due to backlash that will come from parents.
Posted by: Debbie | September 4, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am
mr wrote: “Yes, some of the above were changed due to pressure. But the fact remains, that was the original intent of this exercise. That’s why people don’t trust him.”
Oonly one part has been changed that I’m aware of. It used to say, “Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.” Now it states, “Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short–term and long–term education goals. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.”
All the other lines you listed are still there.
pam wrote: “As a retired school teacher my question is, if there are so many ‘smart’ people in D.C. why can’t they write a plan, any plan , and get it right? Why do they have to rewrite it again and again?”
I’m confused. Where are you folks getting your information about all these alleged changes?
Posted by: Jess Askin | September 4, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
I mean, seriously, disagree with the President’s policies all you want (when you really do), but to pimp the paranoia? Don’t write to the president, because then, he’ll have your name? Seriously? Skip school because the president says to get an education? Are you kidding me? These are not true conservative values. This is idiocy.
Posted by: leighG | September 4, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am
You can sit on here and play the mary poppins role when it comes to race ALL YOU LIKE.Alot of this very well does have to do with race, not all of it but alot of it. Shucks all you have to do is read some of the comments that have been posted on ABC NEWS.COM since the man was elected. So don’t come on here and act like race is not playing a big part in this Barack Obama hate game.
Posted by: vanessa penney | September 4, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am
As a child I often had assignments that took the form of “what would I do to help the president run the country” or “what would I help the president do if I had the chance.” The idea is that there is a President in the U.S. and as a schoolchild you learn that they run the country and so you think about just what that job is and what would be most important to you if you were in their position.
Now as a very young kid, when Bush Sr. was in office I wanted to tell him all about how recess should be longer and lunch should be better tasting. And when I was older and Clinton was in office I wrote about longer recesses so I could burn off extra energy and pay attention in class. By the time Bush Jr. was in office and I was more politically aware, THEN I started in on my actual opinions with regards to foreign policy, education, etc.
This is a lesson aimed at SCHOOL CHILDREN. It’s harmless.
Posted by: Katarin | September 4, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Considering some schools teach the idocy of creationism, aka intelligent design as science, nothing the President could say about education could be worse than the nonsense that religious nuts in this country already allow.
Posted by: Sammy | September 4, 2009, 11:27 am 11:27 am
As responsible parents, it is our obligation to ensure our kids get properly educated by a State Certified, Trained Educator…and not by a politician, Repub or Dem or other, looking to make his mark in history…As educators, we are required, by State Standards, to devote a set amount of time to particular subjects per day. Setting aside an hour , minimum, to a politicians’ speeches, well I believe the thinking person understands what I am suggesting …Do we take out of Math time or perhaps Language Arts time???? Yes, an hour out of ONE day sets back lesson plans for a week or perhaps a month…Not too mention that other politicians may feel that they are owed the opportunity to “sound off” as well..DO TEACHERS A FAVOR AND DON’T SET UP A PRECEDENCE FOR THIS AGENDA, AS IT JUST TAKES TOO MUCH PRECIOUS TEACHING TIME OUT OF AN ALREADY IMPACTED DAY…Our job is too teach your kids how to read, write, do math, open up the world of art, music, history… it is your job to teach your children your standards of life and how to formulate opinions on social issues..political issues…religious issues…I DON’T WANT THAT JOB…..and I believe most teachers would agree..
Posted by: Parallex View | September 4, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
So the immediate response is to hide the fact the president is giving a speech about the importance of education from your child(ren)? So what exactly does that do to your child(ren)? Are you trying to ignore the fact there is a president or are you upset that he is not “your” president? Who really loses here in all this? Certainly not the President and certainly not the parents. Just your child(ren). You can disagree with the president until your blue in the face, but turning tale and running from the speech sets the tone for your children. “Don’t agree with it…run away!” Is this really conservative values here or is it something else?
Posted by: jljr222 | September 4, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Barrack Obama said: ” We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national securtity objectives we’ve set. Everybody somewhere between the ages of 18 and 25 will serve three months of ‘basic’ training…We’ve got a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong…”
…remember the Obama Youth Brigade and its chant?
Posted by: lindy | September 4, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
If this is just a welcome back speech then why the lesson plan?
The Winds of War are blowing
Posted by: William | September 4, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I have a question for Jake to answer: can you tell us whether the former presidents’ speeches were given with the administration’s expressed intent of being shown in schools? The implication in this article is that the format is the same…and I don’t believe it was. There is a difference.
It does seem strange to alot of us that the President would want to speak to children at school, rather than directly including their parents in the exhortation to pursue education.
Posted by: JDuncan | September 4, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
“I’ve had it”, what are you talking about? This has nothing to do with creationism. How did that even get inserted in there?
You people are making alot of assumptions about what belief system people have if they opposed the original lesson plan of the speech. It’s not just bible belters but middle American moderates and independents that opposed the first lesson plan.
I also didn’t see anyone protest that they didn’t want the president to talk to their children about studying hard? Huh? Never heard that one before.
Please stop mischaracterizing the opposing view, and then arguing against it in an effort to make it appear more extremist and crazy, and bringing all kinds of other issues into it. That’s dishonest.
And characterizing any opposition to the president’s actions as racial or hateful is not what tolerant liberalism and democracy is all about. You are allowed to disagree and debate with any administration, as Hillary once reminded us. That’s not a “Mary Poppins” view of race. Believe me I’m quite familiar with racial hate from both ends of the spectrum, and this ain’t it.
It’s a very serious charge, and the more frivolously it is thrown around, the more it loses it’s legitimate profundity and credibility.
Posted by: mr | September 4, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
“I’ve had it”, what are you talking about? This has nothing to do with creationism. How did that even get inserted in there?
You people are making alot of assumptions about what belief system people have if they opposed the original lesson plan of the speech. It’s not just bible belters but middle American moderates and independents that opposed the first lesson plan.
I also didn’t see anyone protest that they didn’t want the president to talk to their children about studying hard? Huh? Never heard that one before.
Please stop mischaracterizing the opposing view, and then arguing against it in an effort to make it appear more extremist and crazy, and bringing all kinds of other issues into it. That’s dishonest.
And characterizing any opposition to the president’s actions as racial or hateful is not what tolerant liberalism and democracy is all about. You are allowed to disagree and debate with any administration, as Hillary once reminded us. That’s not a “Mary Poppins” view of race. Believe me I’m quite familiar with racial hate from both ends of the spectrum, and this ain’t it.
It’s a very serious charge, and the more frivolously it is thrown around, the more it loses it’s legitimate profundity and credibility.
Posted by: mr | September 4, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Why the lesson plan you ask? i ask why cut down everything this man tries to do.Are you that paranoid and fearful?
The only people that will lose in the end because of some of the adults or so called adults outburst and hate is the children and that is a shame. Some of you act like you are so concerned about the children when it comes to who’s going to pay for this that and the third but you’d rather keep your kids out of school because of this speech. You’d rather they miss a day of education because of self. How selfish is that
Posted by: vanessa penney | September 4, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
What is the drop-out rate in this country? Where do American students rank worldwide with other industrialized countries in mathmetics and science? We need all the help that we can muster expecially coming for the President of the United States, the most prestigious position in the world. Is the rejection another case of “cutting off your nose to spite your face”? We should welcome any opportunity to advance our students educationally. What a rightwing cope out!!!!
Posted by: Queen G. Whaley | September 4, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
The real reason parents don’t want their kids to hear Obama? Because then they’ll know their parents are idiots for dissing him.
Posted by: Gaelic Gal | September 4, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
And characterizing any opposition to the president’s actions as racial or hateful is not what tolerant liberalism and democracy is all about. You are allowed to disagree and debate with any administration, as Hillary once reminded us. That’s not a “Mary Poppins” view of race. Believe me I’m quite familiar with racial hate from both ends of the spectrum, and this ain’t it.
It’s a very serious charge, and the more frivolously it is thrown around, the more it loses it’s legitimate profundity and credibility.
Posted by: mr | Sep 4, 2009 12:58:24 PM
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Then why are the people who call him a Marxist/Socialist and claiming he’s dangerous and “different” than any politician in our American history predominantly one race in our society?
I wouldn’t be doubting your claim if only you had a significant number of minorities agreeing with your side. Can someone please explain how only one segment of society see’s something that all the others do not see?
Posted by: Mark | September 4, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Christianity has ruined the whole world.
Posted by: Jackson | September 4, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
So John, are you a racist because you didn’t voted for Bush?
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
I find it very sad that our country has gotten to the point it is at. We allow our news organizations to think for us. Even when the majority, both conservative and liberial, belong back in the times of Donahue. The anger over this speech and over healthcare is not being truely addressed. The truth is most of us do not trust either side. Rep. and controlled by corprate greed but Dems. are controlled by unions and special intrest. Neither have the country first they are to busy paying favors back. This was not well thought out by the WH, not all schools are in session and if it is just a address then why the need for a lesson plan? No one sends me the outline or study plan when the Pres. addresses the nation.
Just like the far right should not be allowed to legislate morality neither should the far left. It is time to get back to the middle where people are allowed to be people and the new is just news.
Posted by: Dan | September 4, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Maybe they’re worried Obama will be as ideological as Reagan was. He might even talk about helping community service and other radical liberal ideas. Will be interesting to compare their speeches and see.
Reagan to schoolkids:
“Because you see, the taxes can be such a penalty on people that there’s no incentive for them to prosper and to earn more and so forth because they have to give so much to the government …
There was talk about having a gun ban in California. It didn’t go through. But I got a letter from a man in San Quentin Prison. And from the prison he wrote me the letter to tell me he was in there for burglary, he was a burglar. And he said, “I just want you to know that if that law goes through, here in San Quentin there will be celebrating throughout the day and night by all the burglars who are in prison.” ”
Remember all the liberal outrage over this “indoctrination?” Oh, right, me neither. Liberals understood that no kids actually paid attention.
Posted by: Brian Griffin | September 4, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
You poor saps that need a religion to tell you how to treat people and a political party to tell you how to think have really hurt a lot of people over the last many, many, many years.
You are just the type of person that religions and political parties LOVE!!
But hey, if it helps you to sleep better at night thinking you came from a pile of ash and a rib bone, congratulations. But let me just add that from the looks of all your behinds out there, I’d say that rib bone came from a side of pork belly!
Posted by: Jackson | September 4, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
The United States of America is almost $12 trillion in debt, and much of that money is owed to foreign nations like China, Russia, and Saudi Arabia. And in the next decade our debt is set to double, to a massive $24 trillion in 2019.
Like teenagers with their first credit cards, Congress and the White House are burning through money with absolutely no thought for the consequences – but the bill for this spending spree is going to come due, soon.
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”
Adolf Hitler
Posted by: Signman | September 4, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
mr wrote: “Stick with me here. The problem was the original lesson plan that the DoE produced to structure instruction before, during and after the speech. These were the questions:”
I just double checked the lesson plan to see which of the questions you listed were still in it. Here’s what I found:
Why is it important that we listen to the president and elected officials? [still there]
Why is what they say important? [still there]
What is the president trying to tell me? What is he asking me to do? [still there]
What new ideas is he challenging me to think about? [still there]
What specific jobs is he asking me to do? [still there]
Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers, parents, principals? [still there]
What does the president want us to do? [still there]
Does the speech make you want to do anything? [still there]
Are we able to do what the president is asking of us? [still there]
mr wrote: “Yes, some of the above were changed due to pressure. But the fact remains, that was the original intent of this exercise. That’s why people don’t trust him.”
mr, none of the questions you listed have changed. Where are you getting your information?
Posted by: Jess Askin (again) | September 4, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Mark | Sep 4, 2009 1:06:29 PM…..Can you cite your source for your (“different” than any politician in our American history….”)?
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
TO: DeanBOB,
Lets talk about burning through money.
Have you forgot that a self proclaimed christian president by the name of GEORGE W BUSH started a bogus war that has cost the tax payer over $12 billion a month? None of that is even remotely Obama’s fault?
Posted by: Jackson | September 4, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Jackson | Sep 4, 2009 1:43:53 PM
….of the $12B / month you cite, how much would the military spend if it wasn’t in IRAQ? Do 2 wrongs make a right?
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
To Paralexview: Your view is a warped one. The president is the best person to speak to children regarding education as he is a prime example of what you can achieve with a good education. He did not come from money and yet he studied thanks to his Mom who woke him up at 5a.m. to study> Do you do this…I think not. All he wants to do is to get some kids off the streets and not into gangs. This is is hope to help them find themselves not get into trouble. What a narrow minded person you are and you are depriving your child of a great lesson. If anyone is spreading communism or socialism it is the ones who say if he does not think like me he is wrong.
Posted by: talmag | September 4, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
It is well documented that Obama while campaigning was targeting and using children so they would in turn manipulate the adults around them. His own website bragged of how successful they were using children. This is much of the same drivel—Obama is targeting children again, not for them, but his own narcissistic egomaniac self. His poll numbers are falling as adults start to wake up, and he is in campaign mode for it is all he knows how to do—read off teleprompters and lie to people in his ‘speeches’.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Mark | Sep 4, 2009 1:06:29 PM…..Can you cite your source for your (“different” than any politician in our American history….”)?
Posted by: deanbob | Sep 4, 2009 1:43:20 PM
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Huh? I don’t think he’s any different than any politician in history. I was insinuating that it freaks “some” white people out that we have a black President. By different…I meant not white…not what they are used to etc.
Posted by: Mark | September 4, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Jackson, there’s a debt problem. Do we take steps to reduce it, or do we accept a similar fate as the Weinmar Republic?
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
$12 billion a month!
Posted by: Jackson | September 4, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
TO: DeanBOB,
Lets talk about burning through money.
Have you forgot that a self proclaimed christian president by the name of GEORGE W BUSH started a bogus war that has cost the tax payer over $12 billion a month? None of that is even remotely Obama’s fault?
Posted by: Jackson | Sep 4, 2009 1:43:53 PM
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You’re wasting your time. It’s not about policy issues for most.
Posted by: Mark | September 4, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
You should have been asking George W Bush before the christian started a bogus war. Afganistan is the only place we should have ever targeted.
Posted by: Jackson | September 4, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Obama’s Narcissistic Personality Disorder is shining thru again. Why do so many fascist and socialist dictators share this same disorder?
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
i think that parents dont want there kids watching it because the are racist it has nothin to do with being in debt
Posted by: Nikki | September 4, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Mark, I’m not naive enough to say there are none who care about color; but, the very largest majority of conservatives I have run across care about what the president believes and does – not his color. So, when so cries racism, I disagree.
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
i would love to her wat he has to say
Posted by: nikki | September 4, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Nikki, as a parent—I can tell you-its because its fascist not racist. This is something Hitler did, and for Obama to target kids again is very telling of the slime that is Obama.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Anyone read Peter and the Wolf?
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Get a grip people!!! I’m not a Black American, and till recently a Republican. But NO LONGER, because of the bottom line, all the HATE MONGERING going on in the name of…. what I don’t know!!!! Certainly not the GOD I know!!! You want to help our Country & the World stop the damn division & get it together!!!!!!
Posted by: lisa | September 4, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Mark, I’m not naive enough to say there are none who care about color; but, the very largest majority of conservatives I have run across care about what the president believes and does – not his color. So, when so cries racism, I disagree.
Posted by: deanbob | Sep 4, 2009 2:05:36 PM
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ah, you obviously don’t read the right wing blogs. Read their comments sometime and come back and see if you still stand by what you’re saying.
My own parents who are Christian conservatives, claim they don’t care he’s black (around others)…but used the “N” word my entire youth and now only use it when they get angry at one of them. Luckily, I rejected what they “tried” to instill in me and grew up totally opposite of them. I live in SC and I’m surrounded by these types of people.
Posted by: Mark | September 4, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Mark, I live in Texas. My neightbor immigrated from Cuba. He has lived in socialist/communist country and still has a brother living there. He talks to his brother once a month and is always concerned that his brother has enough food to eat (despite sending him money) and about his health.
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I am appauled by the behavior of my fellow Americans.We behave either like uneducated fools or like functional iliterates Why are we assuming that the president wants to indoctrinate the children by offering to give an address prior to the opening of school? Interest groups and bigotry is really destroying this nation. I happen to be a Republican who has gone Democrat. Republicans are self centered, Godless bigots who are like sheep in wolves clothing. Give the president a chance. America profess to be a wealthy nation, yes,but there remains a segment [white, blacks, and hispanics alike]who have been oppressed by the few.
Posted by: puncie | September 4, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Some of you don’t want any change because you’re selfish.It’s a shame that people would put self in the way of letting their kids go to school all because of this speech. What are you proving by letting your kids stay home? NOT A THING.The kids will get the short end of the stick. i have seen and heard so much from ignorant and hateful people on here since Obama took office.You’re not hurting Obama and his family by not letting your kids go to school. You’re hurting your own kids
Posted by: vanessa penney | September 4, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Problem for Obama and what has caused such a stir is that the original “lesson plans” and information on the speech were all about Obama. How children can serve him and listen to him. It was all about him, as usual. This is the first instinct of the Obots and it is truly their motive. To create a “leader” who supercedes the constitution and all that is America. Instead of profession loyalty to the country, its about profession loyalty and service to Obama. Look at the celebrity video with all the pledging to serve Obama. Even Obama’s logo, the giant O with the fruited plane enclosed within himself is a symbol of this movement. Why doesn’t he use the presidential seal for his correspondence like all other presidents. Why is it alway the O, and usually with the O standing out and superceding other symbols of America, which are shown scanned back in the background, with the Great Obama taking over all. It’s truly creepy all around and unAmerican. And when you look at the history of Bill Ayers and people Obama surrounds himself with and how they have moved to using the educational system to advance their Marxists notions, its not much of a leap to assume Obama will continue this. It’s also a principle tool of Karl Marx. Read his manifesto. Look at Mao in China. In Marxist societies it always becomes about the leader. That dear ones is the problem. Not Obamas color. He is frightening in his Marxism and his approach and his self-aggandizement. Our leaders in America serve the people. We don’t serve them. We pledge to serve our country, made up of fellow citizens. We don’t pledge to serve a single leader like Obama. He is not to be trusted.
Posted by: Texas | September 4, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
85% of conservatives will never agree with anything that President Obama suggest, a least not openly. I certain many of these haters spouts “wasteful spending” in regards to the cash for clunkers program while taking advantage of the program themselves. Reagan openly address school children about politics, George Bush Sr. address shcool children about saying no to drugs, “W” went around the country reading books to school age children, yet there was never a mention of any parents protesting by keeping their children home. What’s the difference between these past presidents and the current president? The color of his skin.
Posted by: the_peoples_prez | September 4, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Before entering politics, George H.W. Bush was a World War II hero, a pilot and Ronald Reagam was a radio reporter, a movie star. Obama was a community organizer and a Chicago politican. Parents are fearful because they smell too much politics in him.
Posted by: Barbara | September 4, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
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There are many American who just don’t TRUST President Obama with their children and, therefore, don’t want Obama to give an unscreened message to their kids.
The real tragedy is that either Obama and his administration are oblivious to this sentiment, held by American, or are in complete denial. The slap in the face is when Obama calls the distrust “silliness” and Gibbs then gives that message to the press.
Mr. President – people DO NOT trust you and calling them SILLY makes it worse. Please wake-up
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Posted by: No Bama | September 4, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
This is PURE propaganda! Shame on the president for this underhanded tactic. If he were to just talk about studying and working hard, but talking about controversial subjects such as stem cell research is unacceptable. My kids will not be in school that day. Also, my second grader does not even know the middle finger is bad. I am dumbfounded by the infomercial put out saying these things by Hollywood actors. ABC, I hope you speak the TRUTH about what the president is doing. This is not about republicans or democrats. It’s about AMERICA and our freedoms which are being violated. I am sure Germany did not see the propaganda put out by the Nazis, but hindsight it seems so obvious. He is no better by going through the back door indoctrinating our kids. Most of us Americans do not agree with the president’s views on controversial issues such as UNICEF and stem cell research.
Posted by: Denise Gray | September 4, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
85% of conservatives will never agree with anything that President Obama suggest, a least not openly. I’m certain many of these haters spouted “wasteful spending” in regards to the ‘cash for clunkers’ program while taking advantage of the program themselves. Reagan openly addressed school children ABOUT POLITICS, George Bush Sr. address school children about ‘saying no to drugs’ and “W” went around the country reading books to school age children, yet there was never a mention of any parents protesting by keeping their children home. 41% of Latinos are dropping out of school and African Americans are probably right there with them. White students are taking advantage of online paper mills as plagiarism is up in this current, yet the Republicans are throwing a hissy-fit when the president wants to address children about staying in school. Wow! What’s the difference between these past presidents who spoke the children in past and the current president? The color of his skin.
Posted by: the_peoples_prez | September 4, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I do not care who will not show President Obama’s next news release.
He is a blessing and he is doing a marvelous job. He has done more for the people in the short 7 1/2 months he has been in office, than the 8 years of the Bush joke and rich Madoff scams and toxic assets Banks scamming each other. This man is helping America and Republicans cannot stop him from doing the right thing for America. The republicans are doing whatever they can my lies, manipulation and deception to undermine President Obama, but it will not work. Everyone is not stupid enough to believe those lies. I know he will be successful with this new healthcare plan. We need it. Senator Kennedy wanted it before he passed away and it will be done.
Posted by: Agent of Change | September 4, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Before entering politics, George H.W. Bush was a World War II hero, a pilot and Ronald Reagam was a radio reporter, a movie star. Obama was a community organizer and a Chicago politican. Parents are fearful because they smell too much politics in him.
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Actually you forgot to mention that Obama was top of his class at Harvard and W was constantly bailed out of trouble by rich daddy while playing bones on and skulls. Obviously you are not high on education if you’d prefer having and actor and a party boy address your children about education rather than an educator.
Posted by: the_peoples_prez | September 4, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
People who matter do trust Obama. It is not a matter of trust, it is a matter of hate and racism which is what alot of this is about.
Anything, no matter how stupid it is, you label as a huge contraversy and conflict for Obama when the conflict was originated by the media, FOX (the joke), CNN(joke also). Some on CNN do appreciate Obama, but some of these shows like Dobbs leads me to believe anyone can get a show.
Posted by: Not Confused | September 4, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
The president has hired a self avowed communist named Van Jones. Ask anyone has lived under a communist government about healthcare and getting enough to eat (on a regular basis).
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Sorry, we are not selfish for not wanting Obama’s kind of change. Far from it. It’s Obama who is hurting our kids and our country and all change is not good change. Also why should we trust our kids to a man who has a track record of setting up web sites and asking people to snitch to the White House on people who voice disagreement with his policies? Can’t you Obots see how unAmerican and how totalitarian that is becoming? Also I just learned that he has involved the NEA and local arts communities and marketers to help get his message out. That, my friend, is blatant propaganda. What will we see next — huge murals with the great and mighty supreme leader Obama’s image on every building wall and street corner? That ugly and scary “O” logo everywhere we look? Also the NEA is tax payer funded. It is supposed to foster art for arts sake and for the culture. It is not supposed to be an arm of the White House’s communications department. He’s using our own dime to propagandize us. The people involved in that initiative know it’s wrong and likely illegal. They said in their conference call with the White House that they’d have to figure out the legalities of how they would speak to each other about what they were doing. This just adds to the distrust of the president and why people what to keep him out of the classroom. There is nothing that Obama is doing that is American. Why, why are there so many Americans who can’t see the path he is taking us down?
Posted by: Texas | September 4, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
President Obama is doing a great job considering all of the issues he has to address at one time. We should support him and there should be an uprising against those who do not support him. It is unusual to me the things that are allowed to be said about him, that was never said about BUSH who got us almost to a place of No Recovery. Any school should be honored and appreciative to have President Obama as their speaker and encourager to the kids. Many are not so much angry at what he is doing as much as they are angry that He(a black and white) man is doing them.
Get Over It !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Obama Supporter | September 4, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
I say we give the students a CHOICE. Those who don’t want to hear more socialistic marketing MUST be given the opportunity to listen to another POLITICAL speech, say from NEWT GINGRICH or JOHN MCCAIN and learn about school VOUCHERS instead !!!!
Posted by: Johnny | September 4, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I voted for Obama and would vote for him again in a second. He is highly intelligent. He does not have to know every aspect in detail of the healthcare policy as long as the people he assigned does. That is how it has been done historically. You test him and fight on everything including his smile, his encouraging words to the youth, his wife Michelle wearing shorts in over 90 degree weather which is totally idiotic and ridiculous. Intelligent people would not even address such stupidity, but the media will do anything to get ratings.
Posted by: Obama Voter | September 4, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
You know there are unstable people in this country and many of them are on this blog, from reading some of these crazy comments. They need to grow up and get a life.
Posted by: Obama Voter | September 4, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
The school districts that do not televise President Obama, would be surprised if people demanded their school tax back or if they decided these schools are not where they want their children to be. Someone like President Obama encouraging them and telling them to be all that they can be and speaking confidence into them, is truly a blessing and a unique opportunity.
Posted by: School tax payer | September 4, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
The next time that I hear the word “racism” just because I don’t agree with the policies of President Obama, I think I’m going to puke.
Posted by: MikeG | September 4, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I say we give the students a CHOICE. Those who don’t want to hear more socialistic marketing MUST be given the opportunity to listen to another POLITICAL speech, say from NEWT GINGRICH or JOHN MCCAIN and learn about school VOUCHERS instead !!!!
Posted by: Johnny | Sep 4, 2009 3:06:58 PM
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Since they were not given a choice when Bush and Reagan were President and spoke to the school kids…then NO.
Who do you people think you are “trying” to make the rules for THIS President different than all others?
Posted by: Mark | September 4, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Obama wants to form a cilvilian army Hitler started with young also. when Reagan and Bush televised to children it was not piped into all classrooms. This should not happen
Posted by: k.g.Lynch | September 4, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
BILL OREILLY wrote this last month in regards to President Obama addressing the children of our country…”A child does not go from taking English lessons in Indonesia to editing the Harvard Law Review without doing some tough work. The President earned his present job by performing in school and, later, in his various jobs. He was smart enough to lay a foundation for success. Early on as a kid, he understood the big picture.” Conservatives, please keep your children home next Tuesday, so that the words of wisdom from our current president will fall on the ears of children privileged with sane parents.
Posted by: the_peoples_prez | September 4, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
I do not want my child listening to Obama demanding of them to write letters to state how they will help him period. I don’t not want my child for to help Obama with anything nor do I want my child used as a tool by Obama to force his political agenda upon the American public—such as his plan for stem cells (which is planned for this speech btw.) I do not want Obama brainwashing my minor in hopes that later my minor child will vote for his socialist nonsense. I do not Obama using and brainwashing anybody’s child. This whole thing is morally wrong.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
I say Obama develop some class and stay the hell away from targeting children to help him. He did the same thing before the eletion.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
“This is PURE propaganda! Shame on the president for this underhanded tactic. If he were to just talk about studying and working hard, but talking about controversial subjects such as stem cell research is unacceptable.”
It’s pure propaganda alright, and you’re spreading it, Denise Gray. A brief summary of what Obama’s speech will cover has been posted at the Dept. of Education’s web site for some time: “During this special address, the president will speak directly to the nation’s children and youth about persisting and succeeding in school. The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning.”
It was the dirty Republican Party of Florida that started spreading lies when they issued a statement claiming Obama was going to “indoctrinate America’s children to his socialist agenda,” and force children to watch him “justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other president…”
And the stem cell lie came from madman Glenn Beck
Why do you people fall for every morsel of garbage that filthy right wing leaders and entertainers feed you?
Posted by: WWW | September 4, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
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There are many American who just don’t TRUST President Obama with their children and, therefore, don’t want Obama to give an unscreened message to their kids.
The real tragedy is that either Obama and his administration are oblivious to this sentiment, held by American, or are in complete denial. The slap in the face is when Obama calls the distrust “silliness” and Gibbs then gives that message to the press.
Mr. President – people DO NOT trust you and calling them SILLY makes it worse. Please wake-up
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Posted by: N Waff | September 4, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Have you ever seen America this divided in the last 50 years? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Or, is this what politics is really about? I do believe this will help America rediscover itself.
We don’t hate the left, we feel you are just confused and tricked by the spin masters, but you seem to have a hate for us and we are around half the population also. Let’s both look for the truth together. Maybe together we will find it.
Posted by: old1 | September 4, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
You know Mike G., you’re the one with spewing hate on here. Do you even have any kids of your own? You want to be a socialist nation, then maybe you should be looking for another country to live in. If you’re blind to the fact that what Obama is pushing for is just that, then you’re blind. It’s amazing how people like yourself gave Bush crap each and every day of his presidency, but now that you have a democrat in the office that’s ruining our economy, creating an enormous, unheard of deficit, running the banks and auto industry, etc. you have no complaints. All I know is that in 2012 you’re going to see the largest turnout for an election that there’s ever been, cause the movement is on to get rid of this president and this current government that thinks we all owe them something.
Posted by: skidmark | September 4, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
I am furious at the people of this country not supporting the President. Our President wants to address the children of our nation. The same children that will one day have their own voice in our society. Yes, their own voice and mind. Imagine that! You are all worried that the President is going to “brainwash” when you are all doing that for them already, by telling them they can’t listen to it and that you won’t send them to school. Shame on you .
Posted by: Lynne | September 4, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Great post from another site “It is just horrible that the President of the United States take an interest in the well being and education of our children. It was so much better to watch as our children’s education continued to falter insuring our kids can no longer compete. That will result in the decline of the American way of life which the GOP now thinks is the only way to regain political power. I never thought I would see a major political party stoop to such fear mongering tactics in my lifetime. The party of no is really good at saying no, I will give them that.” – Thanks Jeff
Posted by: the_peoples_prez | September 4, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
YOU are one of the problems with this country and this administration. You could dish out criticism during the Bush years but you can’t take it when the shoe is on the other foot!
Posted by: MikeG | Sep 4, 2009 3:23:32 PM
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Oh brother. And let me guess. YOU fought back against the criticism of Bush, but want Obama supporters to roll over??? What a fricking hypocrite.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
I love this country and I support this President and I will never roll over for the anti-science, anti-education, anti-big city, anti-equal rights, anti-civil rights, anti- progress, anti-innovation, anti-artist, anti-small business, anti-worker, anti-rule of law, pro-torture party, of noise and no, who nearly destroyed the economy while insisting the fundamentals were still strong and tarnished our reputation around the world.
Posted by: Alyson | September 4, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Speaking of truth, Why was Tuesday the 8th of September chosen for the Kiddo’s speech? Could it have anything to do with a California eligibility court case?
Posted by: old1 | September 4, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Come on republicans is there anything you are not afraid of? I mean seriously. I’ve seen school children with better coping skills than you. I though the republican party was supposed to be the tough party and the dems were supposed to be the wimps. Maybe it’s better to keep your kids home during his speech. I don’t want your frightened kids anywhere near mine.
Posted by: Scott | September 4, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE SOCIALIST INSTITUTIONS. If these parents are so worried about exposing their children to socialist ideas, why aren’t they sending their kids to private schools? Public schools are institutions paid for with tax dollars that are collected from all of us equally whether we have children or not for the greater good of the country. Isn’t that the thing these parents fear most?
Posted by: Michael Hanlon | September 4, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Scott maybe we should have different schools, maybe with vouchers. Yours could worship Obama and ours could raise children to keep America strong. We can agree to disagree. Separately!
Posted by: old1 | September 4, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
It interesting to see the map of the states tha will not air the president’s speech. Texas made the list? Shocking.
Posted by: the_peoples_prez | September 4, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Hey Old1 -
Now you are talking segrigation. Spoken like a true republican. Let’s take away a womans right to vote too. Ooooh those scary women voters.
Posted by: Scott | September 4, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
old1 – IMAGINE! A politician making a decision based on political expedience. The horror…the horror…
Posted by: Merrill | September 4, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Great post from another site “It is just horrible that the President of the United States takes an interest in the well being and education of our children. It was so much better to watch as our children’s education continued to falter insuring our kids can no longer compete. That will result in the decline of the American way of life which the GOP now thinks is the only way to regain political power. I never thought I would see a major political party stoop to such fear mongering tactics in my lifetime. The party of no is really good at saying no, I will give them that.” – Thanks Jeff
Posted by: the_peoples_prez | Sep 4, 2009 3:48:47 PM
Nice post. Thanks for sharing.
And btw, skidmark. Your post was a little jumbled but I do have kids, they love the president and they look forward to hearing his speech though they sincerely hope they still get to play on the playground for as long as usual (young boyz will be young boyz.) They, like I, would laugh at the notion of a socialist takeover of the country, or that anyone would be afraid to the point of nonsensical hysteria by “socialists”. In the past our mayor has also visited the school as has the police chief and our state representative. Nobody flipped out. Imagine that.
Much. Ado. About. Nothing.
Posted by: Alyson | September 4, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
CBS News 2005 (AP) The United States is losing ground in education, as peers across the globe zoom by with bigger gains in student achievement and school graduations, a study shows.
Among adults age 25 to 34, the U.S. is ninth among industrialized nations in the share of its population that has at least a high school degree. In the same age group, the United States ranks seventh, with Belgium, in the share of people who hold a college degree.=======
But to **** with the socialist President and his brainwashing message. Just keep praying and all will be well in America!
Posted by: Merrill | September 4, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Scott, should they teach Saul Alinski in your school?
Posted by: old1 | September 4, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
WAIT!!!!……I’m sorry “old1″ did you say the left has hate for “you” assuming you on the right. Have you been on this planet long? Did you not see the hateful rallies, signs, comments and pictures about candidate and now President Obama? I’M SHOCKED!!!, SHOCKED!!! that the President of the United States would dare encourage children to study and stay in school. What is this world coming to when a smart man who knows a thing or two about pulling one’s self up his own boot straps thinks he can inspire children. The nerve. Republicans have completely gone off the deep end. I am a black man who did not initially support the President. I would be able to buy into the rights arguments if we didn’t just have G.W. Bush and Cheney for the past eight years and I heard no complaints from conservatives (I’m not sure what they mean by that word because their actions don’t match up with the literal definition of conservatism). America had pleny to be down right OUTRAGED about over the past eight years and we heard nothing from the right now you want to claim a man that has been in office for little over eight months is comparable to Hitler. I don’t but it for a second……..your motives are much more nefarious than you clam, much more.
Posted by: Ken in Atlanta | September 4, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Old1 – they should be taught not to fear anything and everything that’s different than what they are. They should be taught that being different is just plain different not something to fear. That is called maturity.
Sorry, I’m not up on my Saul to have a better convo on that one buddy.
Posted by: Scott | September 4, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Ken, one day I truly hope you open your eyes and see what this man, you seem to admire, is really up to. We worry about what he says to our children because most of what he speaks (or reads) in untrue.
Posted by: old1 | September 4, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Alyson, Who did he dedicate Rules For Radicals to?
Posted by: old1 | September 4, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Even the republicans did not target children to use as political tools. As an independent, I am outraged at the fascism of this administration. IMPEACH OBAMA.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
OK George – this time please don’t delete my post. I find it quite interesting that most of these comments are pro-Obama, on a supposedly un-biased news station’s blog. My comments a couple weeks ago wondering why it was OK to bash Bush but not Obama disappeared within minutes. It’s all about CONTROLLING YOU, Obama supporters – I beg you to open your eyes. Does the Oval Office really have time to be preparing lesson plans?? We “accidentally” suggested to ask students to write letters on how they could help the President???? Quit insulting my intelligence. There was once a time when students would actually dress up and look forward to going to school to hear the president speak just out of respect for the office. Wonder when that respect went away . . . ? Dems please don’t answer it for me, I already know in my mind and WON’T change it!
Posted by: mel | September 4, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
I am amazed at how little people are paying attention! The problem with Obama speaking at to the schools is that his aides wrote a lesson plan that was NOT just about staying in school and instead was filled with how are you going to help obama? And pleaase stop playing the racism card! It is definitely not true and getting really old. It is his ideas and plans that are the problem not his skin color.
Posted by: honey92345 | September 4, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
I knew it would reveal itself sooner or later…..”PotatoeGater22″, in fact Bush 1 and Reagan both gave similar speaches to school children. Reagan even discussed policies. I have no problem with people having disagreements with the President; I am an independent myself. What I do have a problem with is hypocricy, lies and subterfuge. This is not knew so why the newly found reason to be outraged, like I said I have a feeling that your motives are more nefarious than you let, on much more.
Posted by: Ken in Atlanta | September 4, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Why are they making a poltical hoopla over this? He is not going to ‘brainwash’ children. This is going too far. At this rate, this nation really will be divided between Republicans and Democrats at the rate the Repubs keep attacking everything Obama says or does. I’m growing sick of the fear mongering the GOP has taken in the past two years.
Posted by: GWP | September 4, 2009, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Obama will speak to some kids next week, but I am so damned proud that folks on the grassroots level put their foot down if that is what they chose to do………better let the Administration know WHO RUNS THE SCHOOLS…regardless of a few bucks for No Child Left Behind……WE DO, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DO, NOT ARNE…NOT BARACK.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again, when someone writes the history of this one term President, it will clearly point out that any President needs the TRUST of the voters, otherwise it all crumbles….and when you have objections …not to a speech…but to the proposed Teacher Aids which in and of themselves were somewhat repugnant, all you do is breed more mistrust……and then along came Czar Von Jones….like Press Secretary Gibbs said…it’s the silly season…and hearing all about Von, it sure in hell is…………..
Posted by: justj joey | September 4, 2009, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
From reading some of these comments I have come to the conclusion that a few of you could have used some inspiration while you were in school. It is obvious that you didn’t apply yourself while there because you didn’t learn how to spell nor did you learn subject verb agreement when writing sentences. There is an old saying that goes like this: “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm the fact.”
Posted by: Children Are Our Future | September 4, 2009, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
The “parents” crying out with outrage about having their children watch the President of the United States of America present to them a request to better themselves are the same people known as the birthers, the Palineese, the Medicare entitled who don’t want government health care et. al. who most likely force their chfildren to watch the Fox News Channel or “Jesus Camp” at night rather than study for the next day’s test at school!
Posted by: john copeland | September 4, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Now that all the “what can you do to help the president” stuff has been removed from the lesson plan (There were other parts removed also, it wasn’t just one sentence), and the speech has been re-written, I’m sure it will be just fine for kids to hear.
I think many liberals seem to think that conservatives are just knuckle draggers that can’t read and so they can get away with whatever they want.
Truth is we are watching and when things like this come up we will speak up. No need for the GOP to try and push this, real conservatives are taking care of business now.
Posted by: jh | September 4, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
It’s not about CHANGE, it’s about CONTROL!!
Think about that – and then you’ll know why some are worried. As Americans we ALL want freedom, right? If someone is controlling you – you don’t have freedom. I decide what values to instill in my children, not politicians that I didn’t vote for. Even if my elected official was in office – I’m not a hypocrite – I would say don’t show his speech either.
Posted by: mel | September 4, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Jake,
Poor reporting on your part and on the part of ABC News. You feature a sensational headline about “School Districts in Six States…” and then say, in the text of the article, “Nonetheless charges from Republican officials that President Obama is seeking to indoctrinate students — unsupported by any real evidence — have been flying.”
If there is no real evidence of President Obama seeking to “indoctrinate students”, then why are you pushing this story so aggressively?
Isn’t this “story” mainly just a creation of the extreme right-wing that hates Obama no matter what he does or doesn’t do?
Posted by: Jim Cap | September 4, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Who’s in a better position to speak to our children concerning short- term-long term education goals than a man who is a product of that educational system and a true success story who became the leader of the free world, a family man, a man with integrity and a father himself of two, who better qualify than President Barack Obama, maybe the Republican would prefer Sarah Palin ( a parent who’s teenage had a baby out of wed lock or John McClain ( Who been Marry several times, who also left his first sick wife for a rich airess), Governor Sanford of Virginia ( who left his duties of Governing to cheat on his wife and the citizens of Virginia, I could go on but I won’t, This President is by far more qualify than most to give that pep talk to our children and future leaders.
Posted by: gman | September 4, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
“Now that all the ‘what can you do to help the president’ stuff has been removed from the lesson plan (There were other parts removed also, it wasn’t just one sentence), and the speech has been re-written, I’m sure it will be just fine for kids to hear.”
I just checked the lesson plan for the third time today, and I STILL don’t see anything changed except for the one line. Where are you people getting your information?
Posted by: Jess Askin (yet again!) | September 4, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Wow! I am 47, white, female and live in Wyoming, born and raised in Montana. We had to respect the President (Nixon) when I was in school. We were not allowed to talk bad about any of our elders and we actually wrote letters to the President as part of our curriculum. We have fallen apart in the educating of our children and are losing ground in the world everyday. Check the trib.com site and see how Senator John Barrasso visited a fifth grade class in Casper, Wyoming today and no one whined about that. Sorry to say I am a registered republican after seeing how divided we have become because we have a Black Democrat President. I would be honored to have the President speak to one of my children. Call it what it is, racism.
Posted by: kris | September 4, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
A vote for the GOP is a vote for Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh. The attacks on Obama’s school speech, when the elder Bush and Reagan both did the same things, shows that. To turn something like this into nasty politics, is an insult to the presidency itself.
Posted by: JAB | September 4, 2009, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
WHY DO YOU NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO TELL YOUR CHILD TO DO WELL IN SCHOOL? Do it yourself! As a teacher I can tell you that the students who do the best work in schools are the ones who have families at home who support and encourage them.
Every year I offer my Government classes the opportunity to watch the State of the Union address for extra credit, regardless of the party affiliation of the president. But I would never show it in class.
I love the idea of encouraging education but I am suspicious of the motives in this case.
Please save the “racist” accusations for when there is actual racist activity. You’re belittling the word to the point where it won’t have meaning. Almost half of Americans did not vote for the man and his approval numbers are dropping quickly. Its not about a black man. Its about the wrong black man. If Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams had run, they would have won by a landslide and the country would be on the upswing.
Posted by: Jones | September 4, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
This is what I believe, and it makes me sick to my stomach. My and Your America is not living up to what it is suppose to stand for, I mean this is our President of the United States and look at how everyone is acting, I mean it isn’t hard to see what is happening here, No matter what this President decides to do all of these so called Americans will be against it and it’s sadly for one reason and one reason only, it’s notbecause he’s a Democrat, It’s not because he’s a Liberial, it’s not even because of some of his views or his associates, It’s sadly only and I mean Only because he’s Black and in this day and age and the History of Racism and Bigotry in this Country, It’s so hard for me to see how this could be happening so openly, Their not even trying to hide it and we keep trying to understand why certain groups are so against common sense things like Healthcare and the Stimulus or even having the President of the United States speak to our Children ,Like alot of our past Presidents and their Wives. I mean this is The President of the United States , Right !? Black, White, Brown Etc. Really People it’s just a color in a crayon box. What’s up with the hatred, what is this all about ? I’m not overly religious, but people do you really think if you really believe in Jesus Christ,God,Budda,Ali Etc. Is this what He or She would want us to use our Life’s Energy for? I am Ashamed and Appauled by this straight out Racism or Bigotry, Some of the people against him are out of work, Don’t have Good Healthcare or None at all and they hate him because why ? Because he’s trying to find away to help them!? It’s Racism, Bigotry True and True and if I hate anything it’s this. This is so Sad ;-( Believe it or not People of these United States Racism and Bigotry is Alive and well in the greatest nation on the planet, there is no Common sense answer why this is happening, It’s just hate
Posted by: Ray | September 4, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
It is a terrible thing when American children in PUBLIC schools are denied the opportunity to listen to the President of the United States providing a positive message to them. This country has become so divided because of the hate and religious fanaticism which was encouraged in the eight years of the Bush-Cheney administration. It makes me so sad to see where this country is today! I keep hoping that the U.S. will show signs of improvement, but the conservatives seem to be hell-bent on destroying this country.
Posted by: jmb | September 4, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
“Almost half of Americans did not vote for the man and his approval numbers are dropping quickly.”
Going back as far as 1960, Obama popular vote total beats Kennedy and Carter (both 50%), Reagan in his first term (51%), Clinton (43% and 49%), G.W Bush (48% and 51%), and tied with G.H.W. Bush (53%)
Obama’s approval ratings have actually gone up over the last few days, but they will likely drop again in the days to come.
Posted by: Numeros | September 4, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
The Party of Duh does it again. The very thought of the President saying something to impressionable young students must be terrifying to the parents who can’t read. They only know what they’re told by Rush and the other saviors of America. Heaven help the kids if they should find encouragement from that nasty Democrat.
Posted by: way2ski | September 4, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Obama is down to 42% according to the poll I last read—and the sad thing is that polls are always bias in favor of dem politicians…so his actual numbers are probably more likely in the 30′s somewhere already. Impeach him now while we can…..he won’t leave quietly and I suspect he will do something to remain in power like all other socialist dictators.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Given the national school drop-out rates, teen pregancy issues, teen gang violence and crimes, etc, we should be supportiing our President as he reaches out to our youths to let them know that they are a valuable part of our society and to reinforce the value of their education. Good grief people, why does EVERYTHING President Obama does have to be so maliced? Whether you voted for him or not, there is a point when we as citizens should be able to look at an issue objectively instead of always posing Dems vs Repubs. I’m sure if Sarah Palin rambled off her thoughts to our youths, the same people opposing Obama’s speech would be front and center when she spoke non-sense about how it’s ok for teens to have babies cause her child did, or how it’s ok to carry rifles because she does, etc. Since the election, it has been PROVEN that certain people will continue to bash ANY and ALL efforts of this administration. Why is that? Ask yourself that question because many of us I already know the answer to it.
Posted by: Lisa | September 4, 2009, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Jmb, if you want your kids (if you have any) to listen to the Obama try to indoctrinate them—simple solution is to tape Obama and play it when they get home. Hello.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Good thing the Party of “Duh” won’t let the students hear him… He’ll probably tell them they’ll face a death panel if they don’t stay in school…
Posted by: way2ski | September 4, 2009, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
States controlled by the Party of “Duh” will probably pipe in Rush Limbaugh instead. Now there’s inspiration…
Posted by: way2ski | September 4, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
“Obama is down to 42% according to the poll I last read—“
42% was the Zogby poll from 8/28-31. The daily polls have him at 48% (Rasmussen) and 55% (Gallup).
Posted by: Numeros | September 4, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I will not be one walking and knocking on doors to encourage children to stay in school.
Again we cannot just leave it to tea-
chers to teacher, because there is more
sexual assault by teachers, teachers having drugs in their cars on school campus, teachers putting scott tape on children’s mouth, so bewhere, encourage-ment not bad idea.
Parents don’t know what their children
are doing in their own house, like builting dombs, playing with guns.
That bomber that killed 270 people got a hero’s welcome, old men and children
welcome him with open arms.
SOME AMERICANS DON’T WANT THEIR CHILDREN
TO LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Posted by: gluee | September 4, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
The “duh” party has a higher percentage of college graduates than the other party.
Posted by: Nephron | September 4, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Polls numbers are not accurate and are irrelevent. Seriously, how many people can say that they have ever been interviewed or polled in regards to Obama, Bush, or anyone else? We all can go onto any site and press a button but is that a real indication? No, so it’s fair to say that all of these poll numbers are truly reflective of what America as a whole thinks. But if it makes you feel better to quote percentage numbers, go right ahead and you would probably be about 3% correct.
Posted by: terri | September 4, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Most of these parents are extreme conservatives who would never vote for any Democrat and who would never approve anything President Obama did or didn’t do, under any and all circumstances.
They hate Barack Obama because he is black and liberal; two things they despise.
What they fear is that their children might learn to like and respect this president. Better to fill their minds with hatred and fear. That will help with their development, no doubt.
Posted by: Jim Cap | September 4, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Well, Numeros, you focused on the least important part of my comment. As a teacher I am more concerned with PARENTS/FAMILIES encouraging their children than the president. It means everything to them coming from a parent or mentor rather than someone they don’t know (even celebrities). The sad fact is if he needs to make a speech, he should direct it to the absentee parents who don’t do their job.
Obama’s girls are doing quite well because he and his wife expect and encourage that behavior, despite the republican president that preceeded him.
But, thank you anyway for verifying my point. Yes, 47% of Americans did not vote for Obama. That is, as I said, almost half. I can see that you did not need a speech from a president to get you to do well in math.
For approval ratings, try the last few months, not the last few days.
Posted by: Jones | September 4, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
“The ‘duh’ party has a higher percentage of college graduates than the other party.”
Elitists!
Posted by: Rudy | September 4, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
I agree with Lisa. For those very reasons, I talk to my children constantly and am more than happy to allow my children to hear President Obama’s speech that will reinforce the importance of education. Given the state of the world, now more than ever ALL of us need to put more emphasis on education. It’s a positive move and if only a few lives can be inspired to do better, then it is worth it. So, is it a good idea. Yep, you betcha!
Posted by: Robert | September 4, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
“Polls numbers are not accurate and are irrelevent. But if it makes you feel better to quote percentage numbers, go right ahead and you would probably be about 3% correct.”
Are you saying that the pollsters were 97% incorrect in predicting the outcome of the 2008 election?
Posted by: Numeros | September 4, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
“For approval ratings, try the last few months, not the last few days.”
Ok. Job approval dropped from 59% to 53% over the last two months. (RCP average)
Posted by: Numeros | September 4, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
indithinker said “..ah here we go, “the government takeover” ”
Have you read HR3200? It says “SEC. 122. ESSENTIAL BENEFITS PACKAGE DEFINED.
(a) IN GENERAL.—In this division, the term ‘‘essential benefits package’’ means health benefits coverage,
consistent with standards adopted under section 124 ” All they have to do is change section 124 & your employer based plan no longer a qualified plan.
By the way, I don’t watch Fox news. I mostly watch ABC & MSNBC.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 4, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
FURTHER MORE I PAY MY TAX IN HISD, those tax paid for computer to be put in the class room for that purpose, to educate our children.
if they have no interest in the speech, find something else for them to do, staying home is wrong message to send out, when people are walking blocks to blocks encouraging kid to stay or return back to school.
Posted by: gluee | September 4, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Instead of listening to drivel from a politician, students should be studing mathematics,chemistry, physics and biology.They should be studing those subjects that will enable them to compete with their well-educated foreign peers.This presidential exercise is nothing but pap.
Posted by: Nephron | September 4, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Ray | Sep 4, 2009 6:01:28 PM……you have a very good point, however it will not change a thing even if it is true, the haters will counter you with the “Just because they think this way or that way that doesn’t make me a racist speech, but in truth you are right, it the common sense stuff that’s so revealing, it is the simplicity of the speech and the reaction to it that so baffling, it does make one wonder what is the deeper meaning of these peoples negative reaction to it, on the one hand here is the leader of the free world, a man with some Integrity and faithful husband and good father and parent, now tell me? which of these is not up to standard of their so call christian values, yes! so you can only draw one conclusion and that is his skin color.
Posted by: gman | September 4, 2009, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
jmb said ” the President of the United States providing a positive message to them” How do you know it is a positive message? Have you seen the text yet? It is MY job as a parent to encourage my children to stay in school & do their best. It is not anyone else’s place to do so.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 4, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Jones, as a teacher you should also know that EVERY child does not have positive reinforcement in their life to encourage them to do well in school each day. I agree that they should but many do not for a number of reasons that are NOT the fault of President Obama. So for those kids, if they can get inspiration from him, then why is that so bad? I could understand the uproar if an ex-con was coming to speak at the schools but it’s the President of our country speaking. Seems to me that the people who are so skeptical and opposed to their children watching the speech are the ones ‘indoctrinating’ their children to only see the world through their parents’ views. How much damage can a positive ‘stay-in-school’ message be to the kids? I guess if McCain and Palin gets on the news Sunday morning and say it’s ok, then all the skepticism will disappear because THEY said it was ok. Think for yourselves then judge people and situations for yourselves.
Posted by: Kim Reed | September 4, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
JAB said “A vote for the GOP is a vote for Glenn Beck ” Have you ever actually listened to Glenn Beck? He bashes Republicans as much as he bashes Democrats. Neither party is following the Constitution and that needs to stop.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 4, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
If President Obama just sat in the White House and didn’t do anything for 4 years, how much scrutiny would that get? He entered office during a time when it seemed like everything in our country was going backward and he is trying to do something to correct it, then he is labeled as being too aggressive in making things better. Problem is, many people don’t want to admit that the issues we as a country have need to be fixed. In regards to education, I think learning is a life-long process that starts in our schools. I’d prefer to see future generations of over-educated citizens instead of under achievers stuck on stupid because they had no one to inspire them.
Posted by: Natalie | September 4, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
“How do you know it is a positive message? Have you seen the text yet?”
From the Department of Education:
“During this special address, the president will speak directly to the nation’s children and youth about persisting and succeeding in school. The president will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning.”
Yet the all-knowing Republican Party of Florida with a wave of their magic political wand pulled this out of their… er, hat:
“The idea that schoolchildren across our nation will be forced to watch the president justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other president, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power,”
ellsbells930, do you think the DOE is trying to lure America’s children into the den of the evil Obamamonster where he can sink his fangs into their young minds and indoctrinate them? Or are you just trying to stir up a little trouble with your questions?
Posted by: WWW | September 4, 2009, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Lisa | Sep 4, 2009 6:39:01 PM …well said and I agree. It’s sad that all issues in our country have to be divided between Republicans and Democrats when we are all dealing with the same issue. How can we teach our children to have respect for our country’s democracy, when citizens get on open forums and disrepect our President? What do you think that says to foreign countries about the state of America and its citizens?
Posted by: Rhonda Little | September 4, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Reading these comments, it’s always easy to pick out the educators and the like who have lived out of the public trough all their lives.
Posted by: john Arizona | September 4, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Kim, thank you for your comment. You are right, many kids don’t have a positive influence at home. I teach in a school that has a higher drop-out rate than the national average. It breaks my heart. We work hard here to bond with and encourage our kids. But there are only 200 of us and 2,000 of them. And when the last bell rings, they go back home. Or worse, to their home away from home: gang hangouts.
The biggest problem I have with the speech is that it includes curriculum. And the curriculum is wrong. We don’t serve the president, he serves us. He made the speech about him and not about the kids. A simple “Do well in school” and then a class discussion would have sufficed. Now that its been “corrected”, I don’t think its too bad, but the damage has been done.
The irony of ALL this is that the absentee parents don’t know about or care about any speech or politics or what their children are watching or doing. I suspect that every parent, regardless of political beliefs, that has an opinion about this are the very parents whose children will be fine academically because they care enough to invest time in their education.
And oddly, an ex-con is would probably be more motivational to our student population about not making bad choices than the president about making good ones because they can relate to that. They can’t relate to a politician in a suit.
As far as the parents that indoctrinate their children with religious and political views, I think that’s just called “parenting”.
p.s. I’m quite proud of the fact that for the last two presidential elections my students could not figure out who I voted for because I was so balanced in my presentations. In fact many of my acquaintances don’t know because I focus on issues, not people or parties.
Posted by: Jones | September 4, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
WWW – that still is not the TEXT of the speech. It is only what the White House has told them it is about. So until I can actually read what he is going to say, I can’t support it. This administration, time & time again, says or writes something & then scurries to say “that isn’t what we meant” or “we didn’t word that the best way”. We hear it over & over again – so how are we supposed to trust that what they told the DOE is what they are going to do?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 4, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
JAB said “A vote for the GOP is a vote for Glenn Beck ” Have you ever actually listened to Glenn Beck? He bashes Republicans as much as he bashes Democrats. Neither party is following the Constitution and that needs to stop.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | Sep 4, 2009 7:28:20 PM
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I watched Beck for the first time this week to see what all the hoopla is about. I could not believe Fox News allows someone like him to have a show. I have to believe it’s an act for ratings and he really doesn’t believe what he says on his show.
Posted by: Kellie | September 4, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
“The biggest problem I have with the speech is that it includes curriculum. And the curriculum is wrong. We don’t serve the president, he serves us. He made the speech about him and not about the kids. A simple ‘Do well in school’ and then a class discussion would have sufficed. Now that its been ‘corrected, I don’t think its too bad, but the damage has been done.”
The document is still chock-full of curriculum, Jones. And there wasn’t anything in there about serving the president. “Helping” is not the same as “serving.” And you seriously believe the entire tone is somehow changed by rewriting a single line?
Posted by: WWW | September 4, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
“that still is not the TEXT of the speech. It is only what the White House has told them it is about. So until I can actually read what he is going to say, I can’t support it.”
Ah, so you DO believe in the Obamamonster. Gotcha.
Posted by: WWW | September 4, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Has anything done better with Obama in it? The educational foundations=NO, Senate-NO, Presidency-NO, attorney-NO. And yet their are bots who think we should sit back and watch things to continue to get worse under Obama? I don’t think so.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 4, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Here is a thought… if parents do not want the President to influence their students, then why stop there? First, lets get rid of ROTC, then Military recruitment in High Schools and finally, History classes. I mean, after all, should they have to hear visionary speeches from Reagan or Bush either?
This is not only a slippery slope… but it is stupid. Let teachers handle the speech and the class. Otherwise, home school the students and that way you can protect them from perceived mind control.
Posted by: Jack | September 4, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
I am an old, old schoolteacher. I am absolutely delighted at all of this fuss over the President’s speech to the schoolkids. It is the very best advertising he could possibly get.
I remember when the librarian used to go through the books (even the encyclopedias!) and cut out the nude pictures, but especailly the magazines. That really helped magazines sell. Do you think we did not notice the missing pictures and make notes about the book, page number etc.?
The children’s curiosity will guarantee that they hear the speech, but some may not hear it at school. Were any of you adults ever young? You sound like you are raising a bunch of really mindless robots. I actually heard a woman say on TV yesterday that the kids don’t pay attention to things like this that they have their own little things to think about. How dumb can a parent get?
Oh well, go to it, wear yourselves out.
If your kid is forbidden to hear the speech, ask him/her again in about 3 to 6 months. And watch the eyes closely.
Of course you could just listen yourself and critique it, with your child, on your own, without taking the sopinion of any political party as your own, like sheep.
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Posted by: Old Virginia Mom | September 4, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
In response to the School Teacher – Old Virginia Mom – your response is awesome. I am new (4 years) to the teaching profession and your response made me realize that I should not get so worked-up about mind-numbing issues that I have no control over. You are absolutely right… this overreaction has ensured that students will not only hear the message, but they will “get it” too!
Posted by: Jack | September 4, 2009, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
WWW – No, I am going by all the mis-steps this administration has taken in their words. Don’t just pick out one little phrase out of context & make assumptions. The rest of my post makes clear why I have reservations about this.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 4, 2009, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
I wouldn’t have any problem with the president encouraging kids to stay in school if it were really about THEM. What an truly caring public servant would have done is tape the video, elicit feedback from teaching professionals and make it an optional tool for their use in motiviating kids to stay in school. I probably won’t keep my son from watching it, but BOY are we going to talk about it – and the Constitution as well. Thanks for the lesson plan idea – Mr. Obama.
Posted by: Patty | September 4, 2009, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Apparently there are still people in this country who can’t get over the fact that the President is black.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | September 4, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I totally understand the fear that so many people out there are suffering.
After all, the last time a President spoke to schoolkids, 3000 people died.
Who knows what could happen?
Posted by: Flash Override | September 4, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
JimmyTMac – No – there are many of us who can’t get past the fact that he had the most liberal voting record of all the senators – that he leans so far to the left that it is a wonder he doesn’t fall over. It has nothing to do with his skin color, it has to do with his policies.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 4, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
How insane! It seems the conservative talk has a number of people brainwashed tot he point they can’t think for themselves. Mark Davis in Dallas, TX says keep your kids home from school on Tuesday—encouraging truancy—all the President wants to do is encourage students to stay in school, study hard, use their gifts—Jesus said something about that. How insane!
If you are afraid your child may be exposed to something you don’t agree with just keep them home—don’t use it as a point of discussion—just keep them home. What next? Lock them in their rooms, don’t let them read the newspaper, don’t let them read books.
How insane!
Posted by: George | September 4, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Politicizing children to the point of establishing a cult of personality is a crime in my eyes. It would be better if the time taken for this address could be better spent providing valuable classroom instruction
Posted by: Daniel West | September 4, 2009, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
“write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” Another assignment for students after hearing the speech was to discuss what “the president wants us to do.”
The above are a couple of quotes I picked up tonight.
I finally figured it out. I believe that there is a surprising percentage of our population that suspect that Obama is the Anti Christ. Even though other presidents have done the same thing, he is singled out and demonized because they can’t stand the idea of their children admiring him, when he stands against everything they have swallowed from Rush and Co.
Posted by: LD | September 4, 2009, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Daniel West, it seems the conservative talk is politicizing the children. The President of the United States has two roles: ceremonial and political.
The address to the children is more ceremonial. It is intended to be a pep talk, an encouragement, a support. This is much like how the monarch in the UK functions.
But in the good old USA the President is also political, like the Prime Minister of the UK, proposing an agenda that he believes will be in the best interest of our nation.
Would you suggest amending the Constitution to separate the two? I hope not. It has served us well for over 200 years.
Let the President speak, let him be heard, let the children discuss, let the teachers teach, let the children learn.
I hear from students periodically who think Obama is bad because he supports a longer school day and a longer school year. Adults have told them this and they don’t want to discuss it. End of story.
The tourist industry lobbied Texas to get the legislature to change the start date for school—why?—the early start date interfered with their bottom line. The children did not enter the equation.
I call this a tempest in a teapot or much ado about nothing. The rancor about the President’s speech has nothing to do with the welfare of the children, but everything to do with conservative agenda to bring this president to his “Waterloo”.
Posted by: George | September 4, 2009, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
The NERVE, who does he think he is?
I am totally against the President of the United States spewing his socialist propaganda by telling our young American children to do their best in school to secure a brighter future!
Seriouly, anyone that is against anyone telling our young people to do well in school is just stupid!
Stop listening to the bigots on talk radio. Form your own opinions.
Posted by: denise | September 5, 2009, 12:06 am 12:06 am
President Obama will not hurt your “precious” little children, but you protesters sure don’t mind hurting his children. Wonder what your kids think? Try asking them, you might be shocked.
Posted by: P. Robinson | September 5, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am
For this to be issue is obsured! Anyone who objects to anyone speaking in support of education is unbelievable
Posted by: Sherrelle | September 5, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am
It always amazes me how people worry about the wrong things in life. Parents are afraid that the president of THE United States of America is going to brainwash their kids with a 20min speech. He must be one heck of a speaker with super powers. Next thing you know, he’s going to start sending subliminal messages while everyone sleeps…’WORSHIP ME, I AM THE ALMIGHTY, BRING ME YOUR FIRST BORN CHILD,’ etc. People are so scared and paranoid that they are willing to forgo their children education so they won’t have to listen the president speech. If you are so afraid that Barack Hussein Obama can change your child mindset in 20min, YOU must have done a terrible job as a parent. No one is going to remember this speech by the next election because their leaders will have something else for them to focus on. Remember, China, Korea, India are hiring our own teachers go teach English overseas. They obviously know something many Americans choose to ignore. I will let you figure this one out. Hopefully, it will not be too late.
Posted by: Name Slick Back | September 5, 2009, 12:22 am 12:22 am
I never hear anything like this, parent do not want their kids to hear what the president has to say. May me think it all about who the president is, not what is has to say. I never hear this much up roar when the other presidentS came on T.V. I like to known where these people were 4 or 5 years ago when this encomic starting taken a down.
Posted by: Calvin | September 5, 2009, 12:30 am 12:30 am
At least two recent Republican presidents have done something similar so I don’t understand the controversy. What’s wrong with encouraging the next generation to be prepared to take on the responsibilities of the future. Is it a Democratic/Republican thing …. Republicans or conservative Republicans can send a message to the American youth but less conservative Republicans or Democrats can’t?
Posted by: Michael | September 5, 2009, 12:32 am 12:32 am
George, I read your statement. It scares the heck out of me that you are right in your last words. Lets join hands across American praying for his protection and guidance.
Posted by: Michael | September 5, 2009, 12:43 am 12:43 am
I respect the office of the President of these United States of America. I respect President Obama, and am look- ing forward to listening to his speech. I expect it to be encouraging, enlightning and uplifting!!! He’s too smart and too well intentioned to do anything other than to ask our young people to do their best in school and be ready to face a future of doing all they can to make America continue to be a place where freedom is important, and hard work encourages success.
Posted by: Fannie Moran | September 5, 2009, 12:45 am 12:45 am
It amaze me about all this hoopla. these same people complaing about the speech. Probably will never ask a teen why they drop out. If this speech help one child rethink dropping out so be it. Don’t schools teach our history. What a great debate and a live history discussion for our kids for and against.
I can’t belive this day and time schools are still banning free speech.Rember long hair, beards, earrings male, crosses, braids,afro’s, tattoos, books, writers, dances, elvis pressley, witches and so on.
Posted by: gdub | September 5, 2009, 12:47 am 12:47 am
It doesn’t matter what Presidents have given speeches in the past. The real problem here is that there has never been so much controversy with a President in our history concerning all the unanswered questions about his background, his old friends, his birth origin, his “closed” college information/thesis, his 20+ years of religious teachings with Wright, etc. THAT’S THE PROBLEM. People do not trust him…..especially with our children. The line is drawn when it comes to our children. Period. Let him try to deal with adults…..like an adult, but leave our chilren alone.
Posted by: Carole | September 5, 2009, 1:06 am 1:06 am
It doesn’t matter what Presidents have given speeches in the past. The real problem here is that there has never been so much controversy with a President in our history concerning all the unanswered questions about his background, his old friends, his birth origin, his “closed” college information/thesis, his 20+ years of religious teachings with Wright, etc. THAT’S THE PROBLEM. People do not trust him…..especially with our children. The line is drawn when it comes to our children. Period. Let him try to deal with adults…..like an adult, but leave our chilren alone.
Posted by: Carole | Sep 5, 2009 1:06:02 AM
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Yeah because he is so “”"”different”"”" than all our past Presidents eh?
*wink wink*
Posted by: Jenny | September 5, 2009, 1:26 am 1:26 am
All of this talk about the President “indoctrinating” children with a socialist message, and questioning his “shady” background reminds me of the rumours spread by schoolgirls in the 7th grade.
When I was in the 7th grade, my classmates were convinced that Jimmy Carter was the AntiChrist because his initials were “JC” and he was a farmer.
I guess alot of you have never advanced past the 7th grade.
Posted by: NanC | September 5, 2009, 1:45 am 1:45 am
It is sad to see our country, that prides itself in freedom of speech, but is unwilling to let our President of the United States, Barack Obama address our school children. In 1991, I didn’t hear any protesting when then President George W. Bush, spoke to our nation’s students. What about First Lady Laura Bush, I am sure she visited children in schools. What was her agaenda political? I never viewed it as malicious. I have never heard so much disrespect for any President. It is truly sad that other countries see us so undivided as a nation, simply because our President is showing how important children are to him.
Posted by: Yoli | September 5, 2009, 1:49 am 1:49 am
I think that the Rightwing in this country has gone overboard on this issue. All American children should have the freedom to listen to the President Of The United States of America. The last time I checked, the schools in the United States are in the United States so what’s the problem. We let Republican presidents come to schools and that was acceptable. Barack Obama is a good role model for all students. For Obama, going to Harvord Law School to get his education way before becoming President, isn’t that a “Good Thing” for young people to look up to? I think so.
Scott
Posted by: Scott Strzechowski | September 5, 2009, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Obama’s intent was clear enough. This is another prime example of why public school should be abolished and replaced with a voucher system.
Posted by: John | September 5, 2009, 3:02 am 3:02 am
I can honestly say that I’m as close to being ashamed of being American as one can get. What should have, and actually is a historical, landmark achievement that proves the American Dream a reality, has turned into a sideshow freak circus.
The hypocrisy has reached the point that it should choke any sane individual. yet we see said individuals buying into the same scare tactics that they succumbed to during the presidential race and again when Health Care Reform was intruduced
I pose this. Until the people that are screaming and crying about the sky falling actually come up with something better, we all should follow the Golden Rule. Do (or say) unto others as you would have them do (or say) unto you.
Posted by: Jax | September 5, 2009, 5:52 am 5:52 am
This idea of Obama speaking to our children is some type of indoctrination.
This happened in the primaries. He played with children’s minds then, now he’s trying to invade the younger children’s minds again.
Posted by: al from nj | September 5, 2009, 7:50 am 7:50 am
This President should be concerned with failing domestic and international policies. Let the true professionals educate or children
Posted by: Curt | September 5, 2009, 8:26 am 8:26 am
How is he a positive role model? Anyone with connections, money, enough strong-arm buddies, the right speech writers and the ability to sway the masses with hope/fear can become President, that was proved with Dumbya — twice. Obama isn’t any better. His political connections are corrupt, therefore he is corrupt. His arrogant statements have to be “refined” by his staff nearly daily. The same staff who have “issues” of their own, to which he turns a blind eye and expects the same of the masses. He is not a good person. And the only anchor his supporters have is his race, and accusing detractors of racism.
Posted by: Eyes Open | September 5, 2009, 9:09 am 9:09 am
What failing domestic and international policies? The economy is growing, Terrorist Leaders are being captured and Killed on a monthly basis, and he is taking the fight to the Taliban that killed 3,000 Americans…..Iraq was a failure and a lie, and wasn’t worth the 4,600 Americans that died there. And whether you LIKE it or not…..HE CAN speak to the American people at anything or place……got a problem with that….sure, he’s Black right.
Posted by: sara | September 5, 2009, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Obama was probably going to ask them to report any “fishy” things going on at home.
This guy makes Jimmy Carter look like a genius.
Posted by: W Bramlett | September 5, 2009, 9:20 am 9:20 am
“The real problem here is that there has never been so much controversy with a President in our history concerning all the unanswered questions about his background, his old friends, his birth origin, his “closed” college information/thesis, his 20+ years of religious teachings with Wright, etc. THAT’S THE PROBLEM. People do not trust him…..especially with our children.”
Carole, obviously the background of a politician is very important to you, so I’m sure you’ve done a lot of research. Can you tell me where you have found information (grades/gpa/class rankings/birth certificates, etc.) for Barack Obama, Joe Biden, John McCain and Sarah Palin? I’ll tell you what I have so far.
I’ve seen Obama’s birth certificate (short form), and know he went to Occidental College, Columbia University, and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard with a Juris Doctor.
Biden graduated from the University of Delaware ranked 506th in his class of 688. He then earned a Juris Doctor from Syracuse. I haven’t seen a birth certificate.
I have seen a copy of McCain’s Panamanian birth certificate (short form) and a mostly illegible copy of the long form. He earned a bachelor’s from Annapolis, graduating 5th from the bottom in his class of 899.
Palin attended the University of Hawaii, Hawaii Pacific College, North Idaho College, University of Idaho, Matanuska Susitna Community College, and back to University of Idaho where she earned a BS. I haven’t seen a birth certificate.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Posted by: Jess Askin | September 5, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am
This latest incident shows just how desperate the gop (the party of fear)really is. I have never heard of anything so UNAMERICAN in all my sixty years. This latest fiasco is really more about politics and fighting Obama every step of the way than for the welfare of children. I think the Gop has become of the party of disgust and if they feel things are sop bad here in America they should just leave. The United States of America would be a much better place without all this infighting.
Posted by: GOP fear tactics | September 5, 2009, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Denise,
I can understand your frustration with others that disagree with your position. However, your approach doesn’t match the ‘tolerance’ message Obama speaks of. Just because others disagree with you does not make them ‘bigots’, ‘racist’ or ‘republicans’, it makes them Americans. That is the really cool thing about this country, we can think, write and say whats on our mind without fear from our government to silence us…..oh wait, scratch that…
What HAS BEEN really cool about this country is we used to be able to think, write and say whats on our mind.
But guess what, the government is still ALL the people, not just a few, so the ‘fat lady has yet to sing’. My dad always said, don’t poke a sleeping bear, well too late the bear is awake and is NOT happy.
Posted by: Survivor53 | September 5, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am
The American Taliban forgets that Reagon used the very same schoolTV network to address ALL school children to discourage kids from trying drugs. These people are nuts and the media is giving them too much attention. I have not seen one broadcast of parents who are in favor of the President’s speech. Are you not journalists who are supposed to give a BALANCED report of any event?
What is happening is that the American Taliban starts a little fire and then the media swoops in and fans the flames into a wildfire. STOP IT!
Posted by: CAROL | September 5, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am
I think this is just another example of how partisian the republicans have become. Trying to scare the public into not listening to the president of the USA is about as low as you can get. When you think about it how unpatriotic can they get? bush did the very same thing and they were all googled eyed with joy. It is pretty apparent to me that the gop is doing everything they can to make our president look bad with total disregard for real Americans.
Posted by: con me not | September 5, 2009, 9:36 am 9:36 am
What an absolute shame……. absolute shame! Shame on the right-wing for politicizing the President’s message to children. Two republican presidents have addressed children in the past. Now, the right-wingers want to have their children not attend school on the day of the President’s message because of…? Oh, who cares.
The Right-Wing is really acting like a bunch of sore losers… whining cry babies. We’re Americans…. we vote and we support whoever the majority selects to lead us. This time it happens to be President Obama.
The next time a Republican President wants to talk to my grandchildren, I’m going to……. LOL…. nah, I won’t do the same thing because I don’t have the brain of a child like the republicans that are complaining here.
Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | September 5, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Now those that oppose the president have been labeled American Taliban? WOW!!!
Posted by: Surviror53 | September 5, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am
“Reagon used the very same schoolTV network to address ALL school children to discourage kids from trying drugs.”
That isn’t all he did. Reagan also attempted to indoctrinate them with his political policies.
“We’ve been working to take an economy that was in bad shape and get it moving and growing again; take our national defense and make it first-rate again after a long period of decline; and to restore reason, respect, and reality to our foreign policy… We’ve been trying very hard in Washington to make America even more economically fit by really overhauling our entire tax structure. When we came into office, the top personal tax rate that the Federal Government could put on your income was 70 percent. Now, you can understand, I think, that if you were getting up in those brackets — there were 14 different tax brackets, depending on the amount of money in each bracket you earned. And when you could look and say, ‘If I earn another dollar, I only get to keep 30 cents out of it,’’ you can imagine the lack of incentive there. Well, we lowered it to 50 percent, and the economy really took off. Now we’re trying to lower it yet again so that families can keep more of their money and so the national economy will be lean and trim and fit for the future.”
Posted by: Jess Sayen | September 5, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Parents, provide your children questions to take to school to be answered:
1) When I grow up, will I have to pay taxes? If not, would you hire me in your administration? If so, why is it fair that I have to pay taxes and the people you hire do not? A…re you a good role model for other employers?
2) Should I learn how to balance a checkbook or should I spend money that I don’t have….spending IS fun…….
Posted by: Jenny | September 5, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am
The Republicans will stoop to anything to create controversy. A “back to school” adress of encouragement from the President of the US is now, somehow, sinister? Thus far, in the short time Obama has served as President, the right wing activitists have sought to squash any reform that benefits the American people with every “scare tactic” in the book. They simply do not want President Obama to accomplish anything -that is the right wing goal. That the American public is stupid enough to fall for their tactics is not even understandable. So the lies of the Party in power for the previous eight years have been replaced with the lies of the Party out of power in 2009, and Americans, incredibly are still believing them! Didn’t the debacle they created before leaving office teach you anything?
Posted by: Laurel1181 | September 5, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Survivor53 Said: “My dad always said, don’t poke a sleeping bear, well too late the bear is awake and is NOT happy.”
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LOL ….. No “Survivor”, the bear actually woke up in November 2006 and November 2008… that bear is called, “the majority vote”.
Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | September 5, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am
These are the children of the same people who once thought MLK was the antichrist. They taught their children to lie and hate and throw a tantrum when they don’t get their way. This is the results. Idiotic statements like: “I’m American”, “my children are American”, “this should not happen” and “I’m scared”. The idiot woman that said this sounds like her idiot sister that said “I don’t have healthcare, and I can’t afford healthcare, but I sure as hell don’t want government run healthcare!”….. Boy I sure would agree with a Death Panel to kill off that gene. ROFL! But now I understand how some of the worst policies are enacted.
Posted by: Coherent1 | September 5, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Laurel1181 said ” A “back to school” adress of encouragement from the President of the US is now, somehow, sinister?” The original focus of the speech was different from what is now supposed to occur.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am
In response to this quote from the lesson plan:
“Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.”
We haven’t heard the speech yet. If in the speech the president says “Help me take control of the people through healthcare and mind control” then we have a big problem.
If he says “Help me to keep this country great my doing your part and staying in school”, then the question in the lesson plan of how to help the president is not as ominous as some people seem to think it is.
Posted by: Stop The Insanity | September 5, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am
This is know-nothingism taken to a whole new level.
OBAMA: Stay in school.
WINGNUT: Skip school.
Great message machine there, GOP>
Posted by: Flash Override | September 5, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Beginning in the ’60s, our schools began to be infested with leftwing teachers and administrators. The infestation is now thorough and I have no doubt that most classrooms will be pimping for Emperor Obama in any way they can and sending the message home with the children.
Posted by: Ron | September 5, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
I say again (since the moderators had a problem with MY using the word idiotic):
It’s now idiotic to say “I’m American”? What are you, then?
Posted by: Eyes Open | September 5, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
…”that bear is called, “the majority vote”.
That bear put bush in for a second term. That bear appears to be a little dim when it wakes. Base emotions drove it to vote based on fear/promises in ’04 and ’08.
Posted by: Eyes Open | September 5, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
There will be a direct positive correlation between socialist expansion and the “drop out rate”. Socialist programs are largely responsible for the “drop out rate” to begin with. No incentive to stay in school when a person can feed off of another and the government.
Posted by: Reflect09 | September 5, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
I can’t believe what I’m reading. The president of the country some of you hold so dear wants to talk to our children about education and you have a problem with that. He is asking children to be involved in the direction the country takes and in their personal development. Politics aside this reaction is ridiculous. And for those of you who say race is not an issue you are lying to yourselves b/c that can be the only explaination for such nonsense and disrespect. He fails we all fail; don’t you get that?
Posted by: sickofthedisrespect | September 5, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
You know, you could call the right’s collective tantrum about the the speech what it is – a lie. like the death panels, the FEMA camps, and on and on – these people are nuts.
Posted by: blogenfreude | September 5, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
ronnie reagon did it in 1981 and H. bush did it in 1991 so why is the American taliban against it now???
Posted by: gop biggots and racists | September 5, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
This is know-nothingism taken to a whole new level.
OBAMA: Stay in school.
WINGNUT: Skip school.
Great message machine there, GOP>
Posted by: Flash Override | Sep 5, 2009 11:49:02 AM
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Seriously!
Posted by: Alyson | September 5, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
“The original focus of the speech was different from what is now supposed to occur.”
The focus looks exactly the same to me. “President Obama will deliver a national address to students on September 8 at noon ET. He will challenge students to work hard, set education goals, and take responsibility for their learning.”
That’s the fourth time in two days I have checked for changes because of comments made here and it’s the fourth time I’ve found no changes other than the single line about helping the prez. So, I’m asking you “change” folks for the fourth time….. Where are you getting your information about changes?
Posted by: Jess Askin IV | September 5, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Why are people saying it’s the Right Wing who is upset with this??? I’m not part of the Right Wing and may of my co-workers and neighbors who don’t like list aren’t either.
This administration is dividing the country. People make assumptions that if you don’t agree it is because of what “Party” you are from. This has gotten people who have never affiliated themselves with a part involved.
It is nonsense to point the finger at a Party that is upset.
AMERICA is upset Damn#t
Posted by: KC | September 5, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
“Why are people saying it’s the Right Wing who is upset with this???” Perhaps because it was the Republican Party of Florida that issued a press release on September 1st claiming that Obama will attempt to “indoctrinate America’s children to his socialist agenda.” The release stated, “The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.” Obama was called a “Pied Piper” sent into schools by the Democrats.
Funny thing is, the press release contains a link to the DOE which contradicts the wild GOP propaganda. Too bad so many conservatives ignore reason even when it’s just a mouse click away.
Posted by: WWW | September 5, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
He simply wants to address our children about education. Deal with it!! Or are you afraid our children would gain RESPECT for our President?
Stop making something out of nothing. Focus on the real issues. Hey, the United States is NOT what it was a year ago, and it probably will never be the same again. Deal with it!
Posted by: Michelle | September 5, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Michelle, you will have to forgive us Americans if we refuse to become a socialist bananna republic quietly. Fascists deserve no respect—espeically when they spend their time running scams and trying to indoctrinate children. Obama, aka Hitler Wantabe, does not simply want to address our kids. We parents wouldn’t mind someone pushing the ideal of staying in school, but Obama is up to something different—–his questions about his royal egoness such how can the kids help Obama, indicates a man entralled with his own own self. No surprise then, that Obama has a history of talking to kids…..which he used for socialist Acorn tools with his Education Foundations (kids scored lower on tests after Obama’s involvement) and then again while he was campaigning in which he bragged on his website of using children as political tools.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 5, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Michelle the more of a spotlight we can cast on Obama’s doings, the less abuse of the kids he will be able to do. Impeach Obama.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 5, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Even ABC is now running stories about DEms breaking and running from Obama—-he is a fascist marxist/communist. Any with any sense will be running.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 5, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Alyson,
Obama: “How can you help me?”
Parents: “Hitler said the same things to children trying to Indoctrine them”
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 5, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Michele said “Hey, the United States is NOT what it was a year ago, and it probably will never be the same again. Deal with it! ”
Excuse me?!?! “Deal with it”? I will not be quiet & I will not sit down until we are again operating as the Constitution intended. We are just supposed to accept that we are moving toward a socialistic society? I don’t think so. If you want someone to dictate what you do with your life, then by all means, allow someone to – however – NO ONE and I mean NO ONE will tell me how to live my life & take care of MY family.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Guys…get a GRIP! What is so wrong with having the kids write an essay about what they can do for their president? He works for us, for our country, no matter what political line he falls under. Have we stopped encouraging our children to reach for what seems impossible? Has the American Dream truly died?
Back when I was a kid, we were encouraged to write to the president, ask questions, learn more about how our government was run because it was out LEGACY. Everyone of us knew that if we worked hard that some day, there was a real chance we too could be called Mister or Madam president.
Now that we have just such a success story in the white house, we’re running scared, screaming SOCIALIST AGENDA, LIBERAL PLOT. GET.A.GRIP.
We’ve had good presidents and bad presidents, but to be honest, this guy hasn’t been able to sneeze and say bless me without some right wing nut or left wing liberals saying he’s doing something wrong, that he didn’t cross his toes, blink twice and say God Bless America before blessing hiomself. GET.A.GRIP. and either put up, or shut up.
Posted by: Jax | September 5, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
It does not matter what the Obama Administration does or says, the Republican base will always disagree with the issue at hand and spew hatred and propaganda to scare up their followers. I’m a white Independent voter and I can see this pattern everytime there is an issue in the news. Surely does not make me want to side with such mindsets. As Americans, we may not agree with our elected officials but we should at least respect the post. More than half of the nation disagreed with Bush’s agenda but he was not blatantly disrepected although he should have been. If Obama’s plans completely turned this whacked economy around and everyone thrived in financial success, these people will still find a negative flaw in that to fault Obama. Sad and ridiculous
Posted by: Tiger | September 5, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
“Obama is up to something different—–his questions about his royal egoness such how can the kids help Obama, indicates a man entralled with his own own self.”
Obama didn’t come up with those questions, at least not according to the DOE:
“The Department of Education offers educators a menu of classroom activities—created by its teachers-in-residence, the Teaching Ambassador Fellows—to help engage students in the address and stimulate classroom discussions.”
“…he bragged on his website of using children as political tools.”
Shyeah, right. Quote please.
Posted by: WWW | September 5, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Excuse me?!?! “Deal with it”? I will not be quiet & I will not sit down until we are again operating as the Constitution intended.
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All youse whining protesters…..STIFLE IT! I say…..AMERICA, Love it or Leave it!
Posted by: Archie Bunker | September 5, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
ellsbells930 said “The original focus of the speech was different from what is now supposed to occur.”
The focus looks exactly the same to me. “President Obama will deliver a national address to students on September 8 at noon ET. He will challenge students to work hard, set education goals, and take responsibility for their learning.”
What are you claiming is different?
Posted by: Jess Askin V | September 5, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I know these wingnuts are fanatics, but I sometimes wonder if they had stayed in school like President Obama suggested, if perhaps they might have turned out to be productiive members of our society instead of the morons they now are….
Posted by: leftyintexas | September 5, 2009, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
TAP TAP TAP
Is this thing on?
TAP TAP TAP
Posted by: Jess Askin VI | September 5, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Jess Askin V – The original lesson plan included specific questions related to policy issues and how the students could help the President achieve those goals.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Jax said “What is so wrong with having the kids write an essay about what they can do for their president? He works for us, for our country, no matter what political line he falls under.” Right there is the problem – he works for US, not the other way around. His intention was to ask for help in pushing through HIS agenda.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Obama works for George Soros, a Saudi Royal,and himself, but I don’t think us. If he did, he wouldn’t be lying to us and running scams. Fascists Socialists don’t work for us.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 5, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Archie Bunker – How dare you tell me to leave this country that I love. The last time I looked, we still had freedom of speech – guaranteed by the Constitution. You are the one whining, not me.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Broward Coutny School Superintendent James Notter has made the President’s address to the Nation’s school children mandatory & it will be considered the same as an assignment in terms of attendance. Glad to know we have a Superintendent with some sanity and respect for the President of this country.
Posted by: Mac K | September 5, 2009, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
ellsbells930 claimed “The original focus of the speech was different from what is now supposed to occur.”
I found no changes to the description of the speech and asked ellsbells930 what had changed.
ellsbells930 did not answer that question, and now claims instead that the lesson plan has changed: “The original lesson plan included specific questions related to policy issues and how the students could help the President achieve those goals.”
Only one line in the lesson plan has been changed – “Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president,” became “Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short–term and long–term education goals.”
What other changes have been made? What policy issues were or are contained in the lesson plan? Please be specific.
Posted by: Jess Askin VII | September 5, 2009, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Funny article in the Orlando Sentinel about State GOP chair, Jim Greer– you know the guy who just threw a nationwide hissy fit, claiming that the classroom is no place for politics and Barack Obama’s “indoctrination.” Turns out he visits classrooms and espouses Republican values, even telling Hillary Clinton jokes. The dude is a major hypocrite. But the parent who wrote the article didn’t throw a hissy fit, because she teaches her children critical thinking skills and that every story has more than one side.
the last time Obama spoke to school children, he said : “No one has written your destiny for you. Your destiny is in your hands. You cannot forget that.”
Wow, is THAT worth all the shrill.
Eyeroll.
Posted by: Alyson | September 5, 2009, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
“His intention was to ask for help in pushing through HIS agenda.”
Says which psychic in the GOP?
Posted by: WWW | September 5, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
If this were George Bush, the media and all the little liberals out there would not think twice about states/districts not tuning in…but since it is the ANOINTED ONE…THAT is a different story. I don’t see anything wrong with the President trying to encourage and give ambition to kids….but Bush Sr did something like this about 20 yrs ago, and the Dems made the same rukus.
Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
WWW – It was in the original lesson plans on the DOE website.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Jess Askin VII – Obama’s people have stated that they have changed the speech because of the outcry – so if it didn’t contain policy issues, why would they have needed to change it?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
And what happened to my Obama statements showing even before the election he was targeting children to be indoctrinated to be his tools “to help” him push his socialist Agenda? “Kids for Obama’s starter kit” ringing any bells? Completely disgusting…whay type of lowlife uses kids for his politial purposes…OH yeah, Hitler and Obama.
Posted by: PotatoeGater22 | September 5, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
What are we teaching our kids. I teach my kids to respect authority. I hated Bush but respected his authority. Is this the message you want to send to your kids? Impeach everyone who has been wasting time coming up with scandles instead of coming up with ways to help America!!!!!!!!!!!! So much time and energy is spent trying to run Obama’s name in the ground when do they have time to work on American real.issues
Posted by: Lost in America | September 5, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
If President Obama suggested that children should be sure to brush their teeth a couple of times a day, Republicans would throw away their kids’ toothbrushes and proudly let their teeth rot in their heads.
Go ahead and keep your kids home from school — the world will always need ditch diggers and burger flippers.
Posted by: Doc Tourneau | September 5, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Lost in America – There is a difference between respecting the President & blindly following the President. There is a difference between asking kids to do their best in school (what the summary now says the speech is about) and asking kids to help further the President’s agenda (which is what the original intention was).
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Once again the American people are acting like idiots. President Obama is the perfect person to encourage our kids to do better in school. He comes from a broken home, raised partially by a mother on welfare and doting grandparents, excelled academically, and became the first African-American president. So many of our students’ lives mirror his. I’m afraid that the lunatic fringe is growing exponentially.
Posted by: dramaguy | September 5, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
ellsbells930, even when I ask for specifics about your claims, you reply with non-answers.
First YOU claimed that the focus of the speech had been changed. Next YOU claimed that “questions” [note the plural] about policy issues in the lesson plan had been changed. Yet only one line was changed: “Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.”
So let me try this again, ellsbells930. WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE CHANGED AND WHAT ARE/WERE THE POLICY ISSUES IN THE LESSON PLAN? PLEASE PROVIDE THE EXACT TEXT IN QUESTION.
Posted by: Jess Askin VIII | September 5, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
“There is a difference between asking kids to do their best in school (what the summary now says the speech is about)”
I almost missed that one. So you ARE claiming the speech summary has changed. WHAT DID THE SUMMARY SAY BEFORE? PLEASE PROVIDE SPECIFIC TEXT.
Posted by: Jess Askin IX | September 5, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Yeah, the Kids For Obama starter kit opens with:
“Do you feel like you want to get involved in the political process but you don’t know how? Do you feel like there’s something important coming up in the Presidential elections? Get involved in KIDS FOR OBAMA! Studies have shown that kids can affect their parents and their siblings’ opinions and even change the opinions of older family members . . . including those of voting age. Are you still with me? Great, Let’s get started!”
From there it goes on to say “you will find that you’ve become really dedicated to the cause.”
Nah, he’s not into molding young minds to follow him…. ’tis just paranoia.
Posted by: Eyes Open | September 5, 2009, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Jess Askin IX – I can’t provide the summary because the Dept. of Ed changed it on their website. You cannot access it any longer.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 5, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
How sad it is when parents would deny their children hearing a United
States President telling them how important it is for them to stay in school
and become well educated!
There are monumental drop out rates in this country and far too many of
our youth are not well educated enough to have higher paying jobs, much less
meaningful careers. Too many of our children are more interested in playing
video games or hanging out at the mall instead of reading books and
learning things.
Now, for the first time in our nation’s history, we have a
President who really cares about this situation and wants to speak directly to
these young people to encourage them to study, set goals and work hard, and
some people find ways to distort this, to make it out to be an evil “plan”.
How much more can the anti-Obama fear mongers feed this paranoia?
Posted by: Lou | September 5, 2009, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
This issue indicates the sad state the Republican party has sunk to. Instead of acting like responsible adults by disassociating the party from such absurdity as calling the President’s speaking to students as “Marxism”, the leadership supports this ignorance or stays silent. It appears that Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and other extremists really are the substitute leaders of the party. Push the right buttons and the mob flies into action. While accusing the President of being a Marxist among other things, they trample the rights of others to free speech in their town halls by shouting them down. They intimidate others at presidential events by carrying assault weapons. Just because they can doesn’t mean they have to. Seems to me, these people representing the Grand Old Party have more in common with authoritarianism than President Obama or the Democratic Party.
Thinking Republicans should be embarassed that these people represent their party unchallenged. Presidents Bush and Reagan both spoke to the students and there is nothing different about President Obama doing it except that the extreme right simply doesn’t like him and is throwing a national tantrum like some two year old at the Walmart.
I don’t expect more from this kind of rabble but I do or better said….I did…from the leadership of the Republican Party that I always supported. Not any more however.
It is very sad to see this happen to the Grand Old Party.
Posted by: Mona Benge | September 5, 2009, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
You know, I’m just glad all of this right-wing extremist nonsense is being chronicled online. Assuming the bigots and theocrats don’t blow us all up, it’ll be entertaining to go back to the digital archives in a couple of decades and rub their noses in how paranoid they all were.
Posted by: Johan | September 5, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
How dare you tell me to leave this country that I love. The last time I looked, we still had freedom of speech – guaranteed by the Constitution. You are the one whining, not me.
Ellsbells930…we all have it and that is what the President is using “freedome of speech”. The irony is that when speech is not in your favor you want this “administration” to be impeached, silence, shouted out. Too bad YOU DIDNT REALIZE that this is a democracy and the majority voted this administration om. Thanks for DISRESPECTING our democracy! You do not always have to agree with anyone or statement but decency is what separates a child from an adult. Which one are you?
Posted by: us citizen | September 5, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Why can’t the children of America listen to the President of the United States when he speaks about education? The only people that are putting any kind of ugly spin are the ones against free speech. Two Republican Presidents spoke and the children were allowed to hear the speech, why not a Democrat? Whether or not my child should hear what the President has to say should be up to me, not up to the schoolboard, or a politician that I may or may not have elected. Is this another form of the right wing “moral” majority raising its ugly head trying to tell America what it can hear or not hear, read or not read, say, or not say, speak or not speak? This sounds like McCarthyism all over again.
Posted by: Peggy Gross | September 6, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
If this were George Bush, the media and all the little liberals out there would not think twice about states/districts not tuning in…but since it is the ANOINTED ONE…THAT is a different story. I don’t see anything wrong with the President trying to encourage and give ambition to kids….but Bush Sr did something like this about 20 yrs ago, and the Dems made the same rukus.
Posted by: Bill | Sep 5, 2009 6:38:07 PM
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This has NEVER happened in my country. If anybody fussed before it might have been some partisan politicians trying to score some points. Never before have “citizens” behaved like this. Never. I loathed Bush. However, had he spoken and people behaved like this? I’d have said they were wrong them too. At the most I’d find out what was said and maybe talk to my kid about it if it bothered me. So, um, NO. If you guys are going to behave this absurdly? You will own it. Because this is a new one and you’re out of line. I can’t believe this comes from the same group that accused me of being unpatriotic if I fussed about a war.
Posted by: secondlook | September 6, 2009, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Honestly, if the President sat down on Tuesday and started reading passages from Das Kapital he would be finished immediately. His own party would probably impeach him. The idea that this has sparked such controversy is ridiculous.
I have an idea, these school districts that refuse to show the President’s speech should return their Title I and other federal funding dollars. I would gather that the schools with biggest fearmonger parents & leaders running a muck also get nice big chunks of federal $$$ to run their schools.
Posted by: Get_A_Clue | September 6, 2009, 4:27 am 4:27 am
So now the Republican party is against education because it’s communism to tell students to work hard in school.
These people are so racist I can’t believe they didn’t become athetists when they learned Obama was a Christian.
The real question is, “Why is the Obama administration pandering to these morons?”
Posted by: DiMi | September 6, 2009, 7:23 am 7:23 am
“I can’t provide the summary because the Dept. of Ed changed it on their website. You cannot access it any longer.”
The original lesson plan (with one different sentence) is still available on various web pages. But time and time again you refuse to answer what “questions” (plural) have changed, and what “policy issues” were/are contained in the plan. Speaks volumes about the truthfulness of your claims, ellsbells930.
Posted by: Jess Askin X | September 6, 2009, 7:27 am 7:27 am
Jess Askin X – I can’t find it. And I HAVE answered your questions, you just refuse to accept it.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 6, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Get_A_Clue – The Federal government shouldn’t be in the business of funding education in the first place. And if they choose to, they should not be permitted to use blackmail to conditionally fund education or anything else. You can pretty much measure the decline in our education system with the creation of the Department of Education & their increasing power grab.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 6, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am
I left out “as a cabinet level position”
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 6, 2009, 9:29 am 9:29 am
“I can’t find it.”
I don’t think you looked very hard. Nevertheless, I posted the complete original lesson plan just for you, ellsbells930. (It’s long, but hopefully the moderators will leave it up.) Now what “questions” (plural) have changed, and what “policy issues” were/are contained in the plan?
Posted by: Jess Askin XI | September 6, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am
I guess the lesson plan was too long to post. (sigh)
ellsbells930, the original plan is available at the Chicago Tribune’s website. Please look at it, compare it to the new version (one sentence changed) and tell me which “questions” (plural) have been changed and what “policy issues” are contained in either version.
Posted by: Jess Askin XI | September 6, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
I have no problem with the president talking to all our students to encourage them to get a good education and stay in school. The problem that I have is with the lesson plan. That is not his job. It is the job of the Education Dept. If a school wanted to do a lesson plan after the president spoke, then that should be up to the school. Not the president.
Posted by: ritzau | September 6, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
What does this say to the world about democracy as a principal when a democratically elected President is not allowed to address the nations children? We need to all stand up and say this is ludicrous!
Posted by: smart one | September 6, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
ritzau wrote: “The problem that I have is with the lesson plan. That is not his job. It is the job of the Education Dept. If a school wanted to do a lesson plan after the president spoke, then that should be up to the school. Not the president.”
According to the DOE website, the president didn’t create the lesson plan:
“We also encourage educators to use this moment to help students get focused and inspired to begin the new academic year. The Department of Education offers educators a menu of classroom activities—created by its teachers-in-residence, the Teaching Ambassador Fellows—to help engage students in the address and stimulate classroom discussions about the importance of education.”
Also, from the DOE FAQ:
“Q: Is it mandatory?
A: No. The Department is inviting schools to show the address. The choice is entirely up to schools and their communities.”
Posted by: WWW | September 6, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
thank you Mona Benge!
Posted by: smart one | September 6, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
The explanation is obvious: Americans do not trust Obama to speak to our children.
Obama has proven himself to be a lying, racist, communist who works tirelessly to divide and destroy America.
He is the worst president that we have hired in my lfetime.
We all laugh at Obama when he preaches and apologizes to his muslim and communist buds. Such an incompetent fool!
But LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!
Posted by: Duked MHA | September 6, 2009, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
“Americans do not trust Obama to speak to our children.”
Not all Americans. Not even the majority of Americans. Obama’s unfavorable rating is 33% – and of those 33%, even fewer believe that the White House is home to a child-eating monster.
“Obama has proven himself to be a lying, racist, communist who works tirelessly to divide and destroy America.”
It’s the right wing politicians and commentators who are out to frighten, divide, and destroy America with outrageous lies:
•Obama was born in Kenya
•Obama wants to mandate circumcision
•Children will be indoctrinated and grandchildren may be aborted
•Forced abortions plus sterilants in drinking water to control population
•Mandatory euthanasia counseling sessions
•A VA manual encouraging vets to commit suicide
•Death Panels
Posted by: WWW | September 6, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
It’s just plain prejudice against the President. He hasn’t even given his Address yet and ppl are complaining. Give him a chance.
Posted by: Ted C. | September 7, 2009, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Here is a thought…. Air it on primetime so the parents can sit and watch it with their children. So the parents can ask them questions and encourage them. Shouldn’t we a parents be doing this, what a perfect opurtunity to visit and dicuss with your child. Don’t go into the schools and try this. Not a good
Posted by: Jp | September 7, 2009, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Right wing-nuts don’t want their children to go to school and/or be educated. So what else is new?
Posted by: Common Sense | September 7, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
With all that is going on in this world I cannot beleive there is controversy over our President speaking to children. I am a senior citizen and this world just gets more ridiculous. These protestors banned the President speech in Il without even knowing what the content is. And I am sick of this communist and socialism stuff they are laying on Obama….read the newspaper instead of blindly listening to your preacher. Bush bailed out the banks and Bush took over GM…yeah this was all done before Obama. Children need to be taught respect for adults and their President. How about after the speech at dinner you can discuss,you can find the speech content online. I am really sick and tired of these Republican religious nuts effecting my rights. If I wrote this when Bush was in office I would probably be arrested. I for one am hoping my president succeeds and will do whatever I can and certainly give him some time to correct all the wrongs from the past 8 years..no small task.
Posted by: Roberta Worstell | September 7, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
For anyone who is interested, I think there is something parents of all parties can learn from all this hoopla. Posted here:
Specifically, I think we should remember who has the MOST influence over our kids. (Hint: it’s not the President.)
Posted by: Nola Redd, Schuylkill County Independent Examiner | September 7, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
All,
Keep your kids home. Do not let this administration ruin the minds of free thinking children. We are not a Socialist country and the speech had to be re-written because it stated just that. I was born a Free American and have served 30 years in the Military. I will this countries right to free religon, FREE SPEECH, and Right to Bear Arms. GOD BLESS THE CHRISTIAN Country of our. KEEP YOUR Children Home during the brain washing speech that had to be re-written. Enough of the LIES. ENOUGH!!
Posted by: Arrow | September 7, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Haven’t you heard, Arrow? The party’s over. The goofy GOP chairman from Florida has thrown in the towel and admitted that the speech is fine and dandy. Send the kiddies off to school; the Obamamonster isn’t going to gobble up your offspring.
Posted by: WWW | September 7, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
what would jesus do?
Posted by: mikejgrant | September 8, 2009, 9:39 am 9:39 am
I hate politics! I think Polititians are a bunch of liars. I think We The People should take control of our country. It’s not even about the people anymore and that is a crying shame. I did keep my child home today.
God is Great
Beer is Good
People are CRAZY!!
Posted by: AAA | September 8, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I cannot believe the ediots in this country not letting their children watch this speech. It’s not hard to see why this country is so screwed up when kids can’t hear the president on just good common sense. Maybe its because so many have none.
Posted by: Clifford Snow | September 8, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Much of this problem could have been solved by saying that the President would begin his speech by leading children in the Pledge of Allegiance. A prayer would have been nice as well, but I guess those days are gone.
Among other things, it might show that our President doesn’t hate the country he alledgedly leads.
Posted by: Steve | September 8, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
The lesson plans were probably trying to satisfy the schools, because since
NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND (alias, ALL kids LEFT BEHIND WITH NO-FUNDED POLICY) every little thing has to have a curriculum standard. For instnce, children can’t go see the symphony on a field trip without elaborate “curriculum standards” written in the lesson plan. The speech was not re-written, the original version is posted online. The rude screaming minority seems to be sorry losers. Obama did win the election, HE IS OUR PRESIDENT!! The speech encouraged children to do their best, set goals… if that’s socialism…..go figure.
Our country is in real trouble when ignorant, prejudiced, religious zealots are given so much press and news attention. Yes they have a right to their opinion, but they do not have a right to control schools. The fanatical Republicans claim to love their country more than the liberals, yet they hate the government??? go figure
Posted by: allie | September 9, 2009, 4:42 am 4:42 am
Steve, why stop with the Pledge of Allegiance? Put up a few more hoops for him to jump through next time. Perhaps lead the kids in singing The Star Spangled Banner – all four verses of it! Then, follow up with America the Beautiful. For the finale, Obama could stand on his head and whistle Yankee Doodle Dandy. Would that prove to you he’s a real, bona fide POTUS?
Posted by: WWW | September 9, 2009, 4:54 am 4:54 am
It is interesting how quickly we forget. When President Bush (the first) gave a speech to Junior High students, the Democrats (with a majority in Congress) denounced the speech. Not only that but they had the GAO investigate and held hearings questioning administration officials. When Democrats do it, it is proper however if a Republican does it we need to oppose it. This is hypocritical, and worse the news media is mum about this.
Posted by: J Danino | September 9, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
J Danino, did Democrats across the country threaten to keep their children out of school when Bush gave his speech? Did Democrats accuse Bush of attempting to indoctrinate America’s children? And when you say “hearings” just how many are you claiming were held?
Posted by: WWW | September 9, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
“Greer said “this administration has been very aggressive and very vocal of their vision of what America should look like in the future and that is not my and my wife’s vision of what America should look like..”
I was not aware that Jim Greer and his wife could use the chairmanship of the florida gop as a platform to espouse their personal views on national television. Florida needs new republican leadership.
Posted by: florida gop | September 9, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm