Specter on Wilson’s “Hero” Status: What’s Happening in America?

Here’s the rebuke
“Whereas the conduct of the Representative from South Carolina was a breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives disapproves of the behavior of the Representative from South Carolina,” the resolution says.”
Not a big deal.

Arlen Specter was never a real conservative, he was only ever a Republican for his own craven political expediency, as was his jump to the democrat party. His entire career is/was a lie. Thus, this statement from him is worthless.
Joe Wilson is a hero for speaking truth to power. There are not adequate words to express my overwhelming and proudly-held CONTEMPT for this disgraceful Congress and it’s craven, traitorous leadership; nor for the occupier of the White House.

“The Democrats continue to march in lockstep to their ultimate destruction in 2010.”
ROFLMAO!
Non Republimussen polls have the Democrats up quite a bit in Generic balloting.

Let’s see…what’s happening in America? Due to policies, agendas, czars, corruption, debt, fraud, and a community organizer trying to play President, what’s happening is people are mad as hell.
Say what you want about race, financial disparities, religion, or political orientation being the catalysts, but any rational thinking citizen knows when he/she is being taken for a ride. Finally folks are waking up and realizing that it is OUR tax money, OUR hard work, OUR families and even our own country that’s being taken for granted by government more now than ever before. This latest expose on ACORN sheds light on the absolute corruption of these so-called “community organizations” that are no more than con artists using funds they receive from OUR taxes to promote their immoral and at times illegal agendas.
So if Specter is really dumb enough to ask “what’s happening in America”, maybe he should take a look around at his “new party”, and then attend a “tea party”. He’ll get it then.

Wilson gets my thanks for speaking the truth. Specter needs to retire.

“Non Republimussen polls have the Democrats up quite a bit in Generic balloting.”
Ryan C – Let us lead you by the hand since you refuse to acknowledge reality:
“It’s fast becoming conventional wisdom, but statistics wonk Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com reiterated that Democrats should be nervous about the 2010 midterm elections. “I don’t think you should feel at all comforted by 2010,” said Silver. The political prognosticator PREDICTED A 20- to 50-SEAT LOSS IN THE HOUSE FOR THE DEMOCRATS AND EITHER A ONE SEAT GAIN OR AS MUCH AS A SIX SEAT LOSS FOR THE DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE. This comes from the same numbers guru who called the presidential election results correctly in 49 states. “Don’t be complacent about 2010,” Silver warned bloggers and activists attending the Netroots Nation conference in Pittsburgh.”
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Nate Silver sits on your side of the aisle. Case closed.

Specter is insignificant and has no principles. Who cares what he says. He’ll be replaced next year by either a D or a R that actually believes in representing the people instead of representing his/her ego.

Seems to me that if Congressional actions have very low approval ratings,then,if one acts unlike a congressional rep,it would mean approval.Get it? Americans don’t like the “Norm” in Congress.

“Senator Wilson…traitor to the United States of America.”
So, Ryan, what of your outrage when your liberal heroes chose to boo Bush during 2005 State of the Union Address?
(is it because back then “dissent” was “patriotic”? these were the dark days before our totalitarian Boy King assumed his throne)

Sen. Spector- how did you vote on the bills introduced not to allow Illegals to be eligible for the proposed health care bills? This is what Rep. Wilson was talking about when he called out”you lie”– no enforcement.

Here is one more thing. What about that senator (woman) who thought it above her office to attend the tea parties? Can you believe she had the nerve to sit in her cush office being paid with your tax dollars and her office is above that? Can’t wait until 2010. I hope I live to see the next election. Remember these people and don’t forget, let’s get in office people who are representing me and you. I might just run myself.

“I guess I wanted to also say-”the people” might need a resolution to say “we disapprove the “ignoring what needs to be investigated and no one is listening”. Can we take a vote on that one? And they wonder why is there no respect?”
Because we are a Constitutional Republic, not a direct democracy.
“Don’t know about you but I don’t recognize anything but what the constitution allows and doesn’t seem to be an issue anymore.”
You obviously have little clue of what is in the Constitution.
Hint: Its not what Glenn Beck says.

The fact that people are obsessed with this nonsense reveals how pointless the President’s speech has become.I feel that Mr. Obama is losing touch with the job of being president; his appearence on Letterman has more to do with acting as President instead of governing.

“So you think they were heroes just like Joe Wilson then?”
Liberals have liberal heroes (who are absolved of egregious behavior/actions as long as they stay true to ideology: see T. Kennedy, Rangel, Daschle, Dodd, B. Clinton, V. Jones, R. Burris, etc., etc., etc.).
Conservatives view politicians as public servants. You screw up, you’re gone.

“Because the GOP field for 2012 looks real bad right now.”
You know what else in 2012 is looking bad right now? Re-coronation of your Boy King. Outside of Clinton (who then moved Center to save his presidency – no way Obama is doing that, at least credibly), when was the last time a president lost so much goodwill/approval, so fast?
I’m not worried about 2012. Or 2010. Obama has alienated many of his voters in just 9 short months. I don’t see any change in trend. Twenty seats in House. Easy.

Ryan (ctrl) C -
“Is that why Vitter the prostitute customer remains in office? Or Sanford or Ensign? And that’s just the family values adultery guys.”
So I leave you a lenghty list of Dirty Dems and this is all you got? Weak.
Well, if it matters, here’s my take:
- Vitter: Don’t know anything about him (don’t know situation/details, not able to form opinion)
- Sanford: Should resign, his actions impact his position negatively
- Ensign: I have no problem with him – His situation is between him and his wife
Others:
- Craig: Should go
- Stevens: He’s gone. And while he was cleared of charges, given the smoke around him there was probably some fire
Any of these guys been investigated for not paying taxes?
BTW – Forgot about “Frozen Cash” Jefferson down in LA.
Seriously, Ryan – Come back with a better reply.

So I leave you a lenghty list of Dirty Dems and this is all you got?”
You cited a list that had;
1 guy who lost his election several years ago.
A Senbate appointee the Democrats tried to block from being seated.
An administrative appointee who resigned.
And finally a man who recently passed away.
The right wing…stuck on stupid.

BTW – Forgot about “Frozen Cash” Jefferson down in LA.
Seriously, Ryan – Come back with a better reply.”
Well if we’re gonna go back a few years and cite Jefferson.
I see your Jefferson and raise you
A Ney
A Cunningham
A Stevens
A Delay
Shall we go on?

Republicans, by giving Joe Wilson “hero” from their points of view, and to cover their own disgrace, have given ammunition to the enemy, al Queda. Republicans want another hit from al Queda so they can tout that President Obama was the wrong choice. Since they lost 2008 elections, Republicans are acting as if they died. The steps of accepting death is shock, then denial, then anger, then denial, then anger, then acceptance, then peace of understanding. Republicans will remain in the “anger” mode as long as they possibly can in order to get back what died in 2008 — the Republican Party.

Again the mention of boy toward an African American President by a white right winger.
Are you not aware of the racial history behind that?
Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 15, 2009 8:26:17 PM
Assuming you mean Boy King, it’s a common phrase used throughout history. You are really losing all perspective here Ryan.

Death is final, and the Republican Party is dead. All the shouting and pushing are from those in the Republican Party trying to revive themselves but no resusitation instructions were signed by them in November 2008. They are zoombies walking around trying to get back what they forever lost in November 2008 — their identity. Death is final and Republicans are dead in water. All the shouting, pushing, shoving, name calling, and abusive behaviors won’t bring back Republican Party of Reaganism. The Republican Party won’t ever come back since most Americans don’t behave badly like they do. No one really wants to be a “Jerry Springer” 15 min of fame guest, and that is just what Republicans are. We all had 8 years of hillbilly Bush for President who set the bar very low. Thank goodness for President Obama who raised the bar extremely high, is educated, extremely knowledgeable, has manners and grace, can carry on an intelligent conversation, and understand the enemy very well. Keep Civility Alive. Vote Democrat 2008, the real Americans!

Specter is a has-been. He changed parties to keep his big salary and fringe benefit package. Wilson picked an inappropriate time for his outburst; however, it is extremely difficult to hold one’s tongue when you know the person speaking is lying. Obama and his liberal cronies based the entire 2008 campaign on lies. Wilson did apologize and Obama accepted. This should be the end of the story. Congress needs to move on, quit acting like children, and get to work!!! We just don’t need another distraction!! How about all the mean-spirited things that libs have said about G W Bush and ordinary citizens??? They had better clean up their own act!! That goes for Obama too!!! When Obama won, we all lost. We need to replace the liberals in Congress.

“Specter has been working hard for us for years.”
Spector has been a “has been” since the Reagan administration.

Civility has been forgotten or willfully ignored by some. Why? Who lost and who won -voters. The dust is settled, let man do what we hired him to do and clean up this mess. Whether a Republican or Democrat in office, we would still be arguing over Healthcare reform, the economy and bailouts… simply because we have to do this. Avoiding a second Great Depression or losing employer-based health insurance because of affordibility in 5 years for lack of reform of an increasing unaffordable system were and are and will be necessary issues to dispense with. It seems a lot of this “anger” of combination of many things – Republicans loosing the general elections is behind this. The Now Way No How response while at times theatrical, at times comical, appears vain and counterproductive.

If this guy from South Carolina can be a hero, what’s happening in America? Is anybody secure?”
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My God a sane statement comming out of Washington!
Want to really know what is happening? The Media looking for a story give these crackpots a voice, as if they made sense. I am talking about ABC, CBS, CNN Drudge, TPM, Daily Kos, Huffington, You name these nuts are on every page.

Thanks for proving my point jhw539.How did he get into law school with no honors,no honorary society membership,no record of scholarship? Why won’t he release his transcripts or LSAT scores?Probably because they were nothing special.Obviously he is hiding something-the truth is sometimes a bitter pill,but it is still the truth.

The louder and more extreme the ‘right’ gets is beneficial for the Dems….. one of the reasons McCain lost the election (besides Palin) were his strange actions and statements during the financial crisis… in a moment of stress, McCain appeared to be not in control of himself or his political message….
For the last few months the ‘right’ and Republicans have been manifesting the same behavior. It makes for great TV, but the message that is left is the same as last fall…
‘we are out of control, and we have no message other than being loud and demonstrating how stressed we are.
Now, .. ‘birthers’, ‘deathers’, comparisons to nazis and communists make great theater,
but the results will be the same as in the 2008 election….. America rejected the hysteria, xenophobia, and delusional hate speak, before, and will do so again.
The shrill vocal minority is exactly that, a minority, they are seen by the majority of Americans for what they really are and represent.

anyone know who the guys sitting to the left and right of Joe Wilson were? I have not been able to identify them.

Obama – the Man from Nowhere.

“Joe on Specter’s taking of Republican’s votes and trampling them to give Democrats the political edge over the will of his constituents: “What’s happening to America?”"
Joe | Sep 15, 2009 10:32:40 PM
I wouldn’t beat that drum too loudly seeing as how Republicans are the ones likely to gain a dozen seats or so in the House via switches if the most conservative Blue Dogs are driven out over health care and CO2 limits.

John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.
Posted by: Freedom defined.
I see you don’t know either…. oh well

Republicans aren’t the ones demanding hand recounts and breaking election rules by ignoring deadlines
Posted by: Joe
maybe, you should have a chat with Sen. Franken from Minnesota, and get his perspective on that..

Racism is holding Obama to a different standard than you held Bush.
Posted by: He’s just a man
racism:
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
see… not so hard to be accurate

Twice on the House floor Stark called Bush a liar.
Reid called Bush a liar
Obama dissed Crowley
Pelosi lied about the CIA
That’s what’s happening in America, Arlen. Specter’s problem is that he’s been brain dead for at least a dozen years.

Obamacare: treating asthma with a breathalyzer.

“57 states …
But he graduated magna cum laude. :O”
ceeLeelee | Sep 15, 2009 11:16:15 PM
Right. And McCain really believes there is trouble on the Afghanistan/Iraq border.

“If you thought Bush could be criticized and jeered but Obama cannot be, YOU are the one who is a racist.”
He’s just a man | Sep 15, 2009 10:51:48 PM
Bush Jr was never, ever, heckled during a joint session of Congress. Not once. No modern president ever has. When speaking to Congress, they are serving the Constitutional role of co-equal branch and heckling them is akin to burning the flag to anyone who knows and respects our form of government. You clap, you sit stonely, you grumble or hiss. You do not shout down the Executive branch when they legally have the floor.

“But in your eyes, he’s black so there’s no POSSIBLE way he could have earned it. If his career to this point, including a successful stint as a professor, doesn’t prove it than there is no way twenty year old report cards would do it. Most likely, the Right would find that he took a class from some professor whose half brother once was a member of the Communist party and just use it as fodder for their two minute hate.
Go ahead and paint Obama as an elitist left wing economic idiot. That’s partisan.”
I see, calling his actions as elitist is partisan, but calling us racists for disagreeing with his actions. Believe me…if he’s purple and continues to grow government, then most of america will continue to disagree.
We disagreed with Bush too, but Obama has accelerated the growth to in his own words “unsustaiable rate”. And yet it continues. SO now we are saying to our congress – STOP SPENDING.
The race card has been played way too many times in the last month. It doesn’t have the power to silence our legitimate disagreement. No one in this battle of “ides” brings up race –except the left.

jhw539 “Obama got good grades at Columbia”How do you know? As I previously stated he has not released any transcripts-besides,he only went to Columbia for two years.He wasn’t Phi Beta Kappa,he did not gaduate with any honors from Columbia.So I ask again: how did he get into Harvard Law School?Am I racist for asking this question?Am I racist for asking any question about President Obama?

Oh my:
You forgot Joe Biden.

Its getting scary everyday. I get this morbid feeling about the safety of President Obama.
I talk not of the Person, Mr Barack Obama, but the Office he represents.
What is happening to Americans? Why is the society so polarized and divided along Party line?
Why are decent and knowledgeable people allowing politicians to divide them for political gains?
Why is it that People find it difficult to see beyond the facade that is the cacophony of the the discordant tunes these Politicians are playing?
Why can’t we see that all the noise by Talk-show hosts is just to drive up rating while dividing the Country?
I am not an American and I can see through this smokescreen. Why can People be discerning enough to know the motivations of this Agents of division?
The Healthcare reform is not for the Obama Family. They are blessed enough to be able to foot their medical expenses.
Is it possible for us to think that over 70% of Americans can not access good and qualitative healthcare because of the exorbitant cost?
As they say, an healthy nation is a wealthy nation.
A country that could commit billions of Dollars to fighting a senseless war can not vote a quarter of that cost to guarantee its citizens access to Healthcare services.
This is sad.
My intuition tells me that this is not about Americans not being their neighbors’ keepers, it is about ensuring the President Obama fails, so that the Democratic party can look bad in 2010.
With Political powers snatched from The Rights in 2008, they can’t wait to get it back even if it means turning the gullible Citizens against their President.

Joe Wilson broke the “rules” and apologized. Because of his action, the bill has been changed to prohibit subsidizing illegal immigrants. You might not like his methods, but the results speak for themselves.
I don’t understand all the hand-wringing over legitimate criticism of this administration. Where have you people been for the last 6 years? Did you not see how the left de-legitimized Bush to the point that when the market fell, he was practically powerless to act? They actually made a movie about how to assassinate him! Were you not worried then? Talk about cheapening the discourse. Give me a break.

“Is it possible for us to think that over 70% of Americans can not access good and qualitative healthcare because of the exorbitant cost?”
Dare Nigeria, this is inaccurate. Who is telling you this?

He didn’t know that the two bills he referred to were defeated however, he still felt the president was lying and would not back down.
Posted by: talmag
nice of Wilson to stay current on important legislation….. Wilson did this on purpose, it was planned

Technically B.Hussein Obama didn’t “lie” (kinda like B.Clinton didnt have “sex” with Lewinski) – there will be no “Illegals” when Obama is done. The amnesty he is about to grant to all these criminals here illegally in our country will take care of that. 10 million aliens will instantly become democrats…er…citizens. This will secure not only the next 8 years for B.Hussein, but a mere 2/3rds vote from a majority democrat congress on a constitutional amendment to term limits, and he will be President (effectively ruler of the World) for life. Now what is really creepy is, in numerology – Barack Hussein Obama = 666! Freeky! Is Obama the AntiChrist? I’m starting to think so.

You really have to feel sorry for the citizens of South Carolina. Look what sorry individuals they have governing their State.Governor Mark Sanford and Cracker Joe.It really makes me wonder what kind of school system they have there. I find it appalling that anyone ,anywhere would laud Ignoramus Wilson as a “hero”.President Carter is correct to say that this fringe element is racist.Those of us who are with the President will deal with these sore Losers and give us the change that we voted for. I find it incomprehensible that these ignorant, backwoods rubes didn’t say a word when GW Bush bankrupted the country with His phony War. They sat silent for EIGHT long years, yet they scream,march, carry vicious ,vitriolic signs and bellow like wounded water buffaloes after only Eight Months. South Carolina is to be pitied for the sorry image their legislators portray.