Today’s Q’s for O’s WH – 9/10/2009

Good questions, Jake. Thanks for trying and keep at it, please.
Cadillac health insurance plans are not only expensive in and of themselves, but their very existence encourages overutilization and drives up costs. Unfortunatly, “accepatable health care coverage” as defined by HR3200 is of a cadillac variety, and will continue the spiral of out of control spending.

Jake,
How ’bout some follow up on Van Jones? Does PBO agree he does not belong in his administration? If not, how far out does one have to get before he is too far out? If yes, how did he get in the administration in the first place–was his background known, but dismissed as no big deal, or (unlikely) was it missed?

Are people really concerned that illegals may pay their own money to buy unsubsidized insurance? Seems like the least they could do, in addition to paying taxes, to makes sure they don’t burden our country further.

“Seems like the least they could do, in addition to paying taxes, to makes sure they don’t burden our country further.”
How about we start with gaining entrance to the country LEGALLY? Too much to ask?

… it’s obvious… the people who assemble Cadillacs.. please…….

There are STILL way too many questions that need to be answered on this bill. He did not say anymore last night than has been said for the past few months. For example, exactly WHAT does the “public option” cover? Will the person being covered have to go to only government sponsored doctors and hospitals? How are they going to control the fraud that PEOPLE put on insurance companies? All we hear is complaints about how insurance companies do horrible things to the people they insure, but what about the people who go to the doctor every time they have a paper cut just because they have medicaid and they can? There’s many more where that came from, but that’s just the beginning. I think the main question the American people have is how this monster is going to be paid for without any extra deficit? REALLY?

“Conveniently enough, the union negotiated plans are exempt from Obamacare.”
Also, the House version of health care, that has made it out of committee, has a $10 billion provision tucked into it for the unions.
Cadillacs, indeed.

“The other issue with illegal immigrants getting HC coverage in many of the proposed bills is that there is no mechanism to determine if someone is an illegal immigrant.”
MayBee | Sep 10, 2009 4:58:19 PM
“Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” – HR3200
There is no mechanism defined to verify they aren’t actually lizard men from Atlantis either, and I doubt another 1000 pages of minutia would change your opinion.
I find it interesting that when Republicans were in power they didn’t have the slightest urge to complain about illegal aliens explicitly being covered by Medicaid.

The only way President Obama has any possibility of passing health care reform, is a commitment to remove illegal immigrants from gaining entrance to any public option? In the health care bill they must–PROVE–to the majority of the American People that–NO ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONAL–will be able to bleed the government extension in the package. An amendment to the 1000 page reform bill, must guarantee–IN THE WORDING– that a very thorough background identity check is performed on any applicant who applies? E-Verify would be a progressive identifier, with an initial examination of Social Security number in conjunction with Homeland Security Databases.
To complete the operation of E-Verification this PC application, must branch out across the country as a permanent tool in business and industry for every worker newly hired or long time employee. Thousands or even millions of illegal workers could be hiding in plain site in the workplace, as they have never been checked as a citizen or legal residency compliance? It also seems that the auditing of 1-9 forms around the country, that the federal authorities forget to mention that irregularities by employers only allows them to dismiss the applicant? The fact is that ICE raids have trailed off, so that any illegal workers–ARE NOT DEPORTED–they can move onto yet another workplace. Anybody who is suspected of being in this sovereign nation illegally should be detained and held for ICE inspection, not released into the public mainstream?
We all know that Fraudulent ID is so prevalent, that all security systems have been compromised, with even al-Qaeda murderers who brought down three passenger jets. On 9/11 these terrorists had in their possession numerous authentic drivers’ licenses and other picture ID. E-Verify is not perfect and can be cheated, but as it’s modified, collecting more tools to compliment the enforcement program it success rate will become exemplary. Those hired workers who then find themselves under suspicion, can have errors resolved through any Social Security agency. That special interest groups have remained silent about this matter, doesn’t need any explanation? most Americans want enforcement at our borders, the workplace, so contact your reluctant politician at 202-224-3121 MORE HONEST INFORMATION AT NUMBERSUSA & JUDICIAL WATCH. REMEMBER NO MORE BLANKET AMNESTIES!

“In the health care bill they must–PROVE–to the majority of the American People that–NO ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONAL–will be able to bleed the government extension in the package.”
Oh please, a portion of the American people don’t even think Obama has proven his own citizenship. There is nothing, literally nothing, they could do to stop the Right from whining and whipping up fear amongst their followers.
“Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.”
Now why isn’t there the same blind rage about a real case of subsidizing illegals – Reagan explicitly extending Medicaid coverage to illegals? Why didn’t the Right do anything about that all the years they held Congress and the White House?

It sounds to me like the media is trying to stretch as much as they can to cover for their utter failure on the Wilson story. ABC reported it as a he said/he said story without noting that Wison was not only out of line, but wrong.

Gibbsy says: ” I think the CBO would one of the first to tell you that one way to bend that cost curve is to go after and discuss how to prevent what the president called “Cadillac health insurance plans” last night, that tend to make steeper that curve going upwards.”
What kind of morons do they think we are? The “cadillac health insurance plans” are what help subsidize the uninsured the most. The definition of a “cadillac health plan” at least in the private world is one where the premiums are higher and the payments to Doctors and hospitals are higher, thus doing more to help than hurt when subsidizing the uninsured. Now, on the other hand a “cadillac health plan” provided to government employees and representatives could do more harm than good as we all have to pay for them, so if they got rid of those, the cost of overall health care would go down some, probably not much, but some. Either way we are talking a few billion dollars when the deficit is going to be over a trillion dollars, so it is pretty stupid to cite this as a major contributor to bending the cost curve in any direction.

“The Republicans are kissing the Hispanic vote good bye.”
And the Democrats are insulting legal hispanic immigrants by kissing the butts of illegal aliens to get their illegal votes.

The whole thing about immigrants, even those who are here legally, can not buy insurance from the exchange is absurd. Those who are here legally pay taxes, ss, and contribute to the country. WH said that legal immigrants (including green card holders) are required to buy insurance but can not buy from the exchange. So, I guess when you are immigrants, they all fall under leeches category regardless.
So much for HOPE Obama..it turns out you are spineless…we should have elected Hillary Clinton instead. The woman is a fighter.