“Top Line” — Black Caucus Chair: “Hate Speech Can Turn into Hate Crimes”

The GOP leaders should be the first to condemn this kind of “hate”, knowing full well the “ugly murderous” actions of this kind of behaviors…..What is our nation coming to? Are they any “decent” human being left in this country. It’s no wonder the economy was in the “ditch”, millions of Americans without Healthcare, middle-class workers who has shouldered the rich as well as the poor, is Poorer….what is left….greed, hate, ignorance, and class warfare between the haves and have-nots. Is This America. I don’t think so.

It seems that Obama started this by calling those that oppose the health care reform legislation liars. It seems that in all of the areas he mentioned the opposition had some real concerns. They certainly had concerns about coverage of illegal immigrants. Reid and Pelosi followed a similar path in the stimulation bill – no verification will provide hundreds of thousands of tax payer paid for jobs to people that should not be in the country.

“Hate speech can turn into hate crimes.” And all criticisms of Obama and his agenda are nothing but race based hate speech. Ergo, all criticism of Obama must be treated as a crime. Easy to see where where the tolerant, open minded left is headed with this line of reasoning.

How ironic: on the day a white child on a bus in Belleville Illinois is singled out because of the color of his skin, beaten to a pulp while a black crowd cheers, choked and violated for 13 minutes, and the police say that is not a hate crime.
But if you dissent against Obama, that is a hate crime.

The only “hate speech turning into hate crimes” I see are the lack of manners and civility on the part of blacks. Every year, almost 30,000 black men rape a non-black female. EVERY YEAR!! And no one is allowed to talk about this. To do so, would be harmful to black mentality.
Rep. Lee should check out “The Color of Crime” on the FBI’s website. Until then I’ll save my tears for the victims of black savagery.

Well, first off doesn’t belonging to a group like the “Black Caucus” already make you racist? I mean..common..if there was a “White Caucus” imagine the uproar. Secondly and more seriously; where were these people when liberals and Democrats were calling Michaal Steele racist names? How about when liberals and Democrats were throwing oero cookies at him saying he’s black on the outside but white on the inside? Where were these people when liberals and Democrats were making racist remarks to Condi Rice? Oh, that’s right…they throw out their fake outrage only when the person has a (D) after their name. What a joke a of a group.

Rick McDaniels — I 100% disagree with you. This was a race card. Wilson is from South Carolina, the first state that began American Civil War. This state was inclusive with the Confederacy, as most of South red states were during that era. So Wilson reflected his Republican Party’s slate, which is racism, disrespect for others of difference in opinions and ideologies, and desire to be in control, abusive, and exhibit hatred. This is a perfect storm for al Queda. They watch what we do everyday, and even interact with us through internet and community inclusiveness. Republicans have fed right into the hands of Osama bin Laden, and Republicans will do any and everything to get one more strike at America from al Queda so they can “be right”. Republicans have put America in danger and they are responsible for their own actions. Therefore, thank you Rep. Lee for leading this reprimand that should be considered criminal in nature.

Is this the best we can come up with, in light of the titanic mess Bush left,
and Obama seems to be making worst.
One side gets tagged with bad press, ACORN example, than the other side has to find something to counter with.
Win loose or draw, people are generally
distrustful of both political parties.
Obama is no exception
What a reach to equate Wilsons comment with racism. Roll out the old, tired guilt trip routine, for a get off easy card.
How can we take this government serious? What happened to common sense?

Does Rep. Barbara Lee mean when Serena Williams said “I feel like taking this [expletive] ball and shoving it down your [expletive] throat,” to the line judge or when Kanye West leap from the audience to run onto the stage saying “Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time.” examples of “hate speech becoming hate crime”?

Is it also racist to point out how the President lied in his address to congress and the nation about the gentleman from Illinois who supposedly was dropped from his coverage and died as the result!?

None of you were marching in the streets when the Bush admin was running up deficits, adding prescription drug benefits and taking us into a made up war! That’s why we know most of this anger is because a Black man is President. Suddenly you have lost ALL respect for the office! We are not fooled by this and we weren’t fooled during the Bush admin.

When you can’t dispute the facts…..pull the race card! When you haven’t got a leg to stand on……pull the race card! When you lie and people call you out on it and provide evidence to support your claim……pull the race card! When your policies are failing and your radical ties are become exposed…..pull the race card!
How about arguing your position with facts rather than just resorting to race everytime someone disagrees with you?

The Black Congressional Caucus is “right on.” The disrespect shown to a sitting president, whether he is Black or not, is very clear not only in this Congressman’s comment, but across America, with the GOP politicians pushing their own agenda. This comment generated by hate, does lead to hate behavior & ultimately lynching, even though in this case, it isn’t physical. Here in Idaho, there is a residue of anger in having selected a “Black” president that hasn’t subsided since the election. It is seen at local gatherings, in local newspaper Letters to the Editor and Internet blogs. Of course, it’s complicated here because of the crimes associated with “illegal aliens” and local Hispanics in general. But hate crimes are NO myth here in Idaho, and has not been completely eradicated. GOP politicians are fanning those fires here & elsewhere.

Perhaps Ms. Lee, needs to remind the hip-hop, rap industry of that fact. last time I looked, 90% of those folks were from the black community. Talk about hate breeding.

A formal reprimand would not have been necessary if Joe Wilson had conducted himself in a mannerly fashion in accordance with the position he holds. Maybe we should call Joe Kanye West, Jr. …. shoots off his mouth, is rude, apologizes but still thinks he’s right & that it was OK to act rude.
I’m for the reprimand. Had it been a republican president, I would feel the same way. Government is supposed to be civil & especially civil to the commander in chief.
I am worried also about the hate words becoming hate crimes. I don’t remember anything like this ever going on before.
We have a democratic president who is black. I can’t help but feel there are people who have a deep seated problem with the fact that he’s a democrat but an even deeper seated problem with the fact that he’s black. Example: Joe Wilson is from the sourth & he chose to dis-respect our highest “elected” official.
As far as lying &/or name calling, the past August has been really bad & I lay the blame on the GOP or possibly the media who pick up & report on the worst possible happenings at these town hall meetings.
REgardless I find it so hard to believe that people believe stuff like “death panels”, that medicare is not government run, that they don’t have a country, etc. I blame the GOP for stirring these people up with mis-information.
The Nazi signs, etc. of the 9-12 gathering is totally ridiculous. People throw around the word socialism & I bet they don’t even know the definition of it …. they just repeat what they’ve heard from … oh I don’t know …. their GOP leaders & people like Rush Limbaugh (I use the term people loosly when talking about RL).
There are people out there still trying to prove Obama is not a citizen …. my gosh, don’t they have a life.
I myself want the bickering & name calling to stop, & Obama’s speech last week was in answer to what’s been going on during the month of August, which was totally misleading those who are paniced by “death panels” & believe that is actually what will happen. How could anybody believe such a think would be the case in the USA …. boggles the mind.
While I realize the GOP have different political beliefs than the democrats, they let their people flounder & live in fear due to their mis-representation of facts. I find that cruel & not in the best interest of America. I believe they did this all in the interest of politics.
I think formal reprimand is necessary now & for the future – no matter who is president. Not good to disrespect the President.

Hey Elle, Has anyone informed you that the civil war ended almost 150 years ago. And that the south seceded because a Republican was elected President. That there was no Republican party in the south, and that all the blatently racsist Jim Crow laws were written and enforced by the Democratic party. I’m originally from the supposedly progressive state of New York and it was far more Racsist than where I live now. Which is, lets say, further south. My daughters best freind is an African- American, My direct next door neighbor is also African-American. I don’t care and neither does he. Which is as it should be. Brush up on your history and And let go of your tired old sterotypes. Crying racsism has become the same as crying wolf. We are not so naieve as to think that it does not exist. But when the charge is made as often as it is these days. That when its real, we won’t recognize it or even care because we’re getting sick and tired of constanly hearing it.

How on earth can anyone claim that saying “you lie” to the president when he is lying is racist and maintain a straight face!?
First, I don’t think the President was lying.
Calling out like Joe Wilson did in Congress to the President is NOT OK. It is rude, whether racist or not, it is rude.
Does anybody remember that Howard Dean lost a primary quite a while back because he went ballistic at a campaign stop. Your elected officials (in this case Joe Wilson) must act like grown ups & not hot heads.
I think part of the problem with the GOP is that they are in the minority for real this time & they are having a hard time dealing with it. So they act badly & mislead their supporters. A difference of opinion over policy should be able to be discussed w/o the use of inflamatory rhetoric, like death panels, etc. That’s why we have 2 parties ….. 2 different belief systems.

Bah, now they’ve gone and exposed the GOP playbook:
1. Use apocalyptic and disrespectful rhetoric that exacerbates fear, bigotry and extremism among the uneducated and intolerant.
2. Counter any liberal criticism of your inflammatory calls for action by saying they can’t take a joke.
3. Keep turning up the heat and act surprised when somebody finally heeds your calls for extreme action.
4. Be sure to maintain you were only speaking figuratively and you are being unfairly blamed when violence occurs.
5. Keep your celebrations behind closed doors.

When I lived in Myrtle Beach I learned quickly it is indeed different down there.
The rhetoric off the right has gone to a level unlike anything I personally have ever witnessed. I have no doubt things are getting dangerous. I have finally joined the ranks of those understanding why the black people might feel the way they do with the way things are going.
In the meantime? Nothing cracks me up more than a pack of white people whining about how bad those blacks are. You guys can’t be serious? Save the pity party as there is no way the white race can compete for the “put upon” award. And I’m white.

“How on earth can calling someone a liar be considered a race issue? It is a TRUTH issue. They are NOT the same thing. Get a life. This race card is getting really worn out.”………….. It’s easy. This has never been done before and it’s a new low. There has been a total lack of respect since BEFORE he took oath and began to do a dang thing. I’m 50 and I’ve never heard anything as ugly as what I’ve been witnessing. And it started well before serious talks of healthcare.

This whole issue of race is rediculous. I seriously doubt that Rep. Wilson had a racist thought in his head when he blurted you lie. I took his outburst as one from sheer frustration of the entire health care debacle. I understand his frustration. Where was the outrage and resolutions when President Bush was booed? Where was the support of Condi Rice when she was being denegrated? Do as I say, not as I do. The United States government is so corrupt it is destroying our great country. We keep hearing the same old garbage day in and day out. When are we as voters going to put a stop to it? Send these corrupt politicians a loud message in 2010. Vote them all out – black, white or purple.

The race card is played on both sides.
Can’t we agree or disagree on the points
instead of turning that disagreement
into a personal issue on race??? If this
country is racist, how can you explain
Obama’s rise to the presidency???

abc

There was no mention or indication of race until the liberals brought it to national attention. Why can’t they accept a difference of opinion and that the majority of Americans do not support the Obama healthcare plan. While it may not have been appropriate for Rep. Wilson to shout out his remarks, it is also not appropriate for the President to mislead the American public. Let’s leave the race card behind and start a real discussion of the issues- with both sides represented!
Why is your newscast so slanted toward the liberal agenda? This used to be an America with two sides where opposition was met with mediation. Please report all views of the issues- it is too important to the future of our country. This is not a football game where the newscasters are cheerleaders for the home team. We all have a stake in the outcome.

Is the black caucus in all reality the same thing as the KKK, only in reverse?
check it out.

Absolutely ridiculous Cathy. And since when is a “black caucus” not racist? I’m sure many would take offense to the creation of a white caucus.

what the public backlash will be in the end is… no more black president like Obama – rather we need a black president who has integrity, true negotiation skills, someone who does not blow in the wind (voter wind direction), conviction on an issue, not a flip flopper…

Anybody wonder why there even is a ‘Congressional BLACK Caucus’ if there is no race division in the Congress? What a bunch of losers….of course, if people didn’t run scared everytime the old race-horse was trotted out, there would be absolutely nothing for them to stand on…and I mean Nothing!

I love Rep Lee’s comments. She states that today’s formal congressional bloviating “is very important because people in our country need to see members of Congress act in a civil manner.” You have got to be kidding me!
Well, lady, just let me know when you plan on starting. The comments spewed from the mouths of those on the left and especially Rep. Lee’s over the last several years could not remotely be construed as civil.
Nothing racial here, just the truth.

“I disagree with everything you say, but rather than fight to the death for your right to say it, I will have you prosecuted because I hate what you say”. Who’s the hater here?

To the Congresswoman who writes the rules. Race Baiting also leads to riots!!! To turn every word and comment into a “Wolf, Wolf” warning is dangerous and leads to an apathy toward the Baiter. Be care ful of what you “rule”…it could be interpreted as “revenge. See how it goes??