Trigger Happy: Will those who’ve dug in be able to walk back?
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports:
Did that feel like a congressional break? Does it feel like a trigger has already been pulled?
Here on another jobs day, with Vice President Joe Biden setting that bar high — and the unemployment rate up to 9.7 percent, creeping toward double digits – the anticipation begins to build over President Obama's new, new approach to health care.
But who's ready to listen?
The summer has had the impact of moving the two sides farther apart, not closer together. The floating of possible compromises has prompted those on the left and the right to sink in their feet.
And we're still digging: The mere hint that President Obama might not insist on a public option has provoked the kind of quotes that are hard to walk back from.
But first, a longstanding policy is being shifted by the White House — after years' of legal wrangling and complaints.
"The Obama administration plans to change White House policy by releasing the names of thousands of visitors whose comings and goings traditionally are kept secret by presidents," USA Today's Richard Wolf reports. "The new policy would begin in mid-September. Electronic visitor logs maintained by the Secret Service would be released three to four months after visits are made. The disclosure would include who set up the meeting, where it was held and for how long. Specific requests for visits before Sept. 15 would be dealt with individually."
"Exceptions would be made in cases of national security, extreme confidentiality — such as a visit by a future Supreme Court nominee — and strictly personal visits to the first family, including daughters Malia and Sasha."
"We will achieve our goal of making this administration the most open and transparent administration in history," Obama will say, per ABC's Jake Tapper. "Americans have a right to know whose voices are being heard in the policymaking process."
Back on health care — where every quote on the public option should be parsed for wiggle room these days:
"Any real change requires the inclusion of a strong public option to promote competition and bring down costs," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "A bill without a strong public option will not pass the House."
"A health reform bill without a robust public option will not achieve the health reform this country so desperately needs," members of the House Progressive Caucus wrote President Obama. "We cannot vote for anything less."
A break in labor's ranks? "We've got to find out what's doable," Teamsters President James Hoffa said on Bloomberg TV's "Political Capital with Al Hunt." "I think it's important to get something done this time and declare a victory."
Looming over a frustrating debate: "Top Democrats should be very frightened about the sharp drop in support among independents, because it could ultimately threaten their party's hold on the House and shrink their majority in the Senate," Charlie Cook writes in his National Journal column. "Voters see Obama as having sent suggestions rather than proposals to the Hill, staking his future and reputation on a body that they hold in low regard."
He continues: "With 14 months to go before the 2010 midterm election, something could happen to improve the outlook for Democrats. However, wave elections, more often than not, start just like this: The president's ratings plummet; his party loses its advantage on the generic congressional ballot test; the intensity of opposition-party voters skyrockets; his own party's voters become complacent or even depressed; and independent voters move lopsidedly away. These were the early-warning signs of past wave elections. Seeing them now should terrify Democrats."
Trigger the trigger — the only plausible negotiated settlement to this long battle.
"The idea of such a backup plan or ‘trigger mechanism' has emerged in negotiations between the White House and the one Republican willing to engage with them on the issue, Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, on whom the White House rests its hopes of finding a middle ground," Robert Pear and Jackie Calmes write in The New York Times. "If Mr. Obama has new ideas about the public plan, he has not shared them with his allies in Congress."
"The plan might win over moderate Republican and wavering Democratic senators, who do not want to give the government blanket authorization to enter the insurance market and compete with private companies," the Los Angeles Times' Peter Nicholas and Christi Parsons report. "At the same time, President Obama could make the argument that he has not abandoned the prospect of a government-run plan, also called a ‘public option,' which liberals contend is needed to inject competition into the insurance industry."
"We don't even know what this buys us," said one Democratic senator. "Does it get us to 58 votes? And if that's all it does for us, why do we want to go down this route?"
House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., is floating an idea that goes down a similar route: "We ought to set up some pilot programs regionally around the country," Clyburn told McClatchy's James Rosen. "What you're trying to do is find out what works and what doesn't work."
Other concessions? "Nancy-Ann DeParle, Obama's health care adviser, said that outrage over insurance company practices has grown so great that Congress could quickly pass legislation to fix the problem, with or without broader proposals such as requiring people to obtain coverage," Michael Kranish reports in The Boston Globe.
"I think the insurance market reforms are so deeply thought to be needed that I think the Congress would be willing to enact those apart from the increases in coverage,'' DeParle tells Kranish.
Don't give up on the Gang of Six — yet: "All six of the Finance Committee negotiators – three Republicans and three Democrats – are expected to take part in a conference call scheduled for 90 minutes on Friday at 10:30am. While the lawmakers have been in their respective states during the August recess, staffers have reportedly been hard at work on the secretive compromise," ABC's Z. Byron Wolf reports.
Can you get people together in this climate? "Though favoring one proposal over another carries political risks, potentially limiting what Obama might be able to claim as a victory, senior administration officials said the speech will satisfy demands that he clarify which provisions he supports and which he could jettison," Anne E. Kornblut writes in The Washington Post. "Advisers said Obama will address the question [of the public option] — setting the stage for a showdown between liberal Democrats insistent on a public option and conservative Democrats and Republicans who oppose it.
"Conservatives plan to run new advertisements on Tuesday arguing that Democrats' health proposals contain no guarantees to prevent government from rationing health care and creating long waits for treatment," Janet Adamy writes in The Wall Street Journal. "White House allies on Capitol Hill expect the president will scale back some of his ambitions, without going as far as Republicans such as [Sen. Chuck] Grassley are seeking."
"Interest groups are unleashing a torrent of modern and old-fashioned lobbying tactics at members of Congress returning for the autumn battle over health care, from spending sky-high amounts on TV ads to staging rallies in the capital and perhaps outside insurance company offices," per the AP's Alan Fram.
Think the temperature's cooled out there at all? "An already ugly health-care debate got even uglier on Wednesday evening when a 65-year old opponent of Democratic reform proposals had his finger bitten off at a vigil organized by MoveOn.org in Thousand Oaks, Calif.," per ABC's Teddy Davis.
David Brooks' latest prescription: "This is not the time to get incremental. It's the time to get fundamental. Reform the incentives. Make consumers accountable for spending. Make price information transparent. Reward health care, not health services. Do what you set out to do. Bring change." The upshot? "He's become ordinary," Charles Krauthammer writes in his column. "The spell is broken. The charismatic conjurer of 2008 has shed his magic. He's regressed to the mean, tellingly expressed in poll numbers hovering at 50 percent."
Coming up on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Sunday: White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, plus a special health care roundtable with former Sen. Tom Daschle, former Sen Bob Dole, Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., and Rep. Mike Pence, D-Ind.
Your stimulus salesman, maybe overselling: "Vice President Joe Biden proclaimed success beyond expectations for the $787 billion economic stimulus, but his glowing assessment overlooks many of the program's problems, including delays in releasing money, questionable spending priorities and project picks that are under investigation," the AP's Brett J. Blackledge reports.
Look forward to seeing these numbers: "Mr. Biden predicted that the stimulus package will have created or saved a total of 750,000 jobs since it was passed in February. The president's Council of Economic Advisers on Sept. 10 will issue its estimates of the number of jobs saved and created with stimulus spending," Louise Radnofsky and Elizabeth Williamson report in The Wall Street Journal.
Back to school — for a schooling: "President Obama's plan to deliver a speech to public school students on Tuesday has set off a revolt among conservative parents, who have accused the president of trying to indoctrinate their children with socialist ideas and are asking school officials to excuse the children from listening," James C. McKinley and Sam Dillon report in The New York Times.
"As the statement drew attention from blogs and cable TV news shows, some conservative sites began calling for a ‘national skip day' to prevent children from being exposed to ‘Obama propaganda,' " per the Los Angeles Times' Kristina Sherry.
Per the AP: "Districts in states including Texas, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Virginia, Wisconsin have decided not to show the speech to students. Others are still thinking it over or are letting parents have their kids opt out."
The text will be released a day earlier, so schools can decide in advance whether to let their students watch.
The third branch speaks: ABC's Jan Crawford Greenburg has details of C-SPAN's interviews with Supreme Court justices, as they get ready to welcome a new member. "I suspect it's like people look at their families. You know, this is the family how could it, you know, be different," Chief Justice John Roberts said.
Van Jones, in deep: "A top environmental official of the Obama administration issued a statement Thursday apologizing for past incendiary statement and denying that he ever agreed with a 2004 petition on which his name appears, a petition calling for congressional hearings and an investigation by the New York Attorney General into ‘evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur,' " ABC's Jake Tapper reports. "A source said Jones did not carefully review the language in the petition before agreeing to add his name."
Big week for George Will: First he wants out of Afghanistan, now it's Iraq. "As Iraqi violence is resurgent, the logic of triumphalism leads here: If, in spite of contrary evidence, the U.S. surge permanently dampened sectarian violence, all U.S. forces can come home sooner than the end of 2011. If, however, the surge did not so succeed, U.S. forces must come home sooner."
The Kicker:
"I'm surprised people consider it unusual that a former politician would be on a dancing show. . . . Politics is also show biz." — Tom DeLay, new "Dancing with the Stars" contestant.
"I have spoken to every single governor, except one, who's now a former governor." — Vice President Joe Biden, not the first or the last to have trouble connecting with Sarah Palin.
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In lieu of a back-up trigger to engage the public option, why not a back-up trigger to relax the public option efficiencies if private companies show they can’t compete?
Posted by: 92F150 | September 4, 2009, 9:02 am 9:02 am
no public plan. but reform start with reforming medicare,medicaid and social security they know their is alot of fraud in these goverment agencys how stupid they want to add on another goverment run mess come on these morons can’t run anything you never add on more to a disaster alraedy in progress.
Posted by: natale from mass. | September 4, 2009, 9:47 am 9:47 am
I think it absolutely incredible, that Obama has been wasting so much time over health care, and has been doing absolutely NOTHING about job creation.
The entire population will soon be a shambles, from lack of income, and Obama is only concerned about health care.
Would someone in Washington, please clue Obama in, on what is REALLY important….right NOW?
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | September 4, 2009, 9:49 am 9:49 am
I find it unbelievable that Republicans will stand in the way of something that will benefit this country (them included) just so that they can say Obama has failed at something. I am a progressive in Louisiana — the only one in a company of 30. My co-workers are staunch Republicans who admit that this country is in dire need of reform (especially considering the cost of their own health care and insurance premiums), but they get a tingle in their legs at the thought of Obama failing at getting reform passed. I call that cranked up crazy!!
Posted by: hang | September 4, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am
I think Obama has a keen sense of what is important right now. Health care is a major major issue in this country and reform needs to begin immediately. People need to listen and stop buying into the republican trash talk and lies.
Posted by: confidential416 | September 4, 2009, 9:59 am 9:59 am
time to get it done.
Posted by: jonnycometo town | September 4, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am
The last thing we need is for the government to compete with private insurance companies. Will the Public Option be self financing or will it be subsized by the government?
If it is subsized, then the government can drive private companies out of business by setting premiums so low that no one can compete with them and not LOSE money.
If it is self-financed (is anything the government creates truly self-financing?) I would be personally inclined to favor it but I believe that to control the cost of health care the government will need to address Tort Reform.
Posted by: cobraman2001 | September 4, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am
no public plan if they cant run medicare medicaid or social security and you people know this.reform those first then look at other ideas. stop adding on to the nightmare some of you people personally just want a free ride iv’e never seen anything like this they want goverment to take care of them americans our becoming more and more lazier .eventually they sit back and sink farther and farther into goverment taking care of them. i’ll live in a tent i will never ask for a hand up oh thats right i can get off my a** and do it myself.
Posted by: natale from mass. | September 4, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am
One of the reasons for needing consumer protective standards [law/regulation] with healthcare as it stands– most people have no idea how to be medical care consumers.
Buying medical/health insurance as it stands as consumers in an unregulated capitalistic for-profit business requires the consumer to understand the product.
Most people understand donuts & coffee when they compare shop for donuts & coffee. Most people have limited knowledge of Medicine, nor what their insurance policy covers[if they're lucky enough to still have one].
Free-market healthcare is for profit. The opposers to health reform must have great trust in the private sector corporations to “take care of them”…
Trusting a for-profit business, more than a regulated standard to ensure their protection? That’s what the government is for!- That’s why we follow the Constitution to protect us.
People are losing homes and becoming bankrupt from the uncovered medical costs. 51% of bankrupt cases filed in 2007 were due to medical debt.
Posted by: gus amaral | September 4, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am
July issue of The American Journal of Geriatric Psychiatry, reviewed 15 studies that together followed more than 28,000 subjects for at least two years. All the studies controlled for age, sex, smoking and other factors. The studies variously defined light to moderate drinking as 1 to 28 drinks per week.
Compared with abstainers, male drinkers reduced their risk for dementia by 45 percent, and women by 27 percent.
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It’s Friday. Anyone else interested in participating in keeping their mind straight?
Posted by: gus amaral | September 4, 2009, 10:34 am 10:34 am
and a goog majority live be on their means.also take care of yourself look at yourself look how large americans are today i’m middle class been moving along perfectly for years since i started working as a kid 45 now me my husband and child are great.my husband has a small plumbing business with his partner they’ve been doing fine because we dont live be on are means were coasting perfectly along i love this country capitalism all the way.
Posted by: natale from mass. | September 4, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Vote public health care straight up or down. The health care system cannot continue as it is and they know it. The public option is the only thing that will hold it in check. Don’t compromise a good bill for a bad one just to get a couple of republican votes. We would rather a good bill fail than have a bad one pass. If it fails we’ll clean our ranks and go for single payer which means he government handles it all in 2011. Bring on the vote!
Posted by: rightbehind | September 4, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Go back to the drawing board and bring a bipartisan plan to the table that focuses on true reform – free market competition, tort reform, and reducing fraud and waste in the existing programs. Makes sense to me.
Posted by: FairTax Proponent | September 4, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I’m Sorry. It is a sad day when my state representative in Congress can be ordered on how to vote by some old lady named Pelosi.
Congress is really the pits.
Posted by: James L. | September 4, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am
I’m Sorry. It is a sad day when my state representative in Congress can be ordered on how to vote by some old lady named Pelosi.
Congress is really the pits
Posted by: James L
You twisted that one. They are not told “how to vote” only to take their pick. Bring on the vote so we can vote coming the 2010 election 14 months from now. Bring it on!
Posted by: rightbehind | September 4, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Since the so-called debate on health care turned into a shouting match as encouraged by the GOP, I’ve lost interest. The consequence is that I’m for it, if only because the GOP is against it. That they (the GOP) fostered George Bush and Cheney on our country, together with their Itaqi adventure, has tainted the GOP for all time.
Posted by: John Locke | September 4, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
I must say that this current idea of “health care reform” really isn’t reform, but more of just adding another level of goverment on top of what we have currently, with regards to healthcare. That is the wrong path to take, and trying to shove a massive bill through the goverment makes it even worse.
Considering the size of the health care industry the approach should be more incrimental, and broken up into several bills over a few years. We’re talking about 17% of economy and trillions of dollars on monies in question here and we have to take it slowly so that if we make a mistake we can have time to fix it without making things much worse.
I would suggest congress scrap what they are doing now, 4 bills in the senate and 6 in the house last I heard, instead spread the work between about 6-8 years and a number of bills to be very focused about what we are doing.
Bill 1. A full audit of social security, medicare and medicaid, with the goal to make them self-funded and sustainable.
Bill 2. Allow people to shop for insurance across state lines, individuals who opt for private insurance plans(non-employer provided)have a tax credit for their premium and for any dependents that they have on their plan, tax credits/debt forgiveness for medical students who agree to spend at least 10 years as a family, pediatric or geriatric doctor and establish a federally mandated curriculum for a “Life Economics” course at the highschool level that teaches finiancial studies related to choosing insurance/medical savings plans/credit card useage/checking and savings account use to students.
Bill 3. Remove current federally mandated coverage options(ie “plans must include coverage for podiatry” and the like). Instead let each state determine what coverage options that plans from their state must have. On the federal level all insurance companies must offer a “choose your own option” plan where consumers can choose coverage options based on their own life needs, with options to renegotiate coverage options once a year, or more often based on signficant life events(marriage, birth of a child and so on).
Insurance companies can no longer have life time maximum benefit limits in their medical or dental insurance plans.
Drug companies are barred from marketing perscription drugs directly to consumers(TV and magazine adds).
Bill 4. Create an insurance pool for the Chronically uninsured, or those who are unisurable due to pre-existing conditions. Must not be able to get medical coverage for less than “$X per month” premium and have had no medical insurance for at least 1 year. Federal Government pays 60% of their insurance premium of an insurance plan with a company of their choice. Lawyers representing claimants of malpractice suits are limited in compensation to a flat fee per hour determined by the presiding Judge. Pain and suffering portion of awards for valid claims are limited to potiental wages lost due to the injury received for the improper care received.
Such a plan is pretty straight forward, it will benefit most people in the argument(drug companies and trail lawyers take a hit) and, though I’ve not cruched the numbers, I bet this would cost much less than 1.7 trillon dollars.
Posted by: bobtherepublican | September 4, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am
If you manufacture poison, do you shut down the plants cause the poison makers will lose their jobs?
Posted by: Macrose | September 4, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
BBC Setember 4, 2009: “US manufacturing output grew in August for the first time in 19 months, a closely-watched survey suggests.
The Institute of Supply Management’s purchasing managers index rose to 52.9 points last month, up from July’s 48.9.
With any number above 50 indicating expansion, it is the latest sign of recovery in both US factory output and the wider economy.
Separate data from the main US estate agency body said pending home sales hit a two-year high in July.
The National Association of Realtors said the number of sales agreed, but yet to be concluded, rose by a seasonally adjusted 3.2% in July compared with June. This was the sixth monthly rise in succession.
The number of home sales agreed was up 12% from July last year.”
Posted by: gus amaral | September 4, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Under the watch of President Barack Obama:
BBC: Aug. 28, 2009: “US consumer spending rose slightly in July, helped in part by the government’s “cash for clunkers” car scrappage scheme.
Spending increased by 0.2% from the previous month, the third consecutive monthly rise. Personal income remained virtually unchanged.
The rate of increase was less than in June, when spending rose a revised 0.6%, the Commerce Department said.
Consumer spending accounts for about 70% of economic activity in the US.
It is, therefore, an important factor in the US economy’s recovery.
On Thursday, revised figures for US economic activity beat analysts’ expectations.
The figures confirmed that the economy had shrunk at an annual rate of 1% between April and June. Analysts had expected the figure to be revised downward.
The second-quarter figures were an improvement on the 6.4% annual pace of contraction in the first three months of the year, and they helped to fuel hopes that the US economy is on its way to recovery.”
Posted by: gus amaral | September 4, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
When will he realize that many of us simply DO NOT WANT the government to become anymore entrenched in our lives? Everytime you let the government take care of your needs you have relinquished part of your freedom until we will be nothing more than minions of whomever is in power at the moment. This is not what America was built on.
Posted by: cwg | September 4, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Sales of new US homes rose to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 433,000 in July, up from 395,000 in June, said the Commerce Department.
Posted by: gus amaral | September 4, 2009, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
“When will he realize that many of us simply DO NOT WANT the government to become anymore entrenched in our lives? Everytime you let the government take care of your needs you have relinquished part of your freedom until we will be nothing more than minions of whomever is in power at the moment. This is not what America was built on.”
Posted by: cwg | Sep 4, 2009 12:38:38 PM
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We are “built” on The Constitution of the United States. That was our freedom from the British monarchy. It’s our “government”.
Your claims are ridiculous.
Posted by: gus amaral | September 4, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Those ‘shouting’ at the townhall meeting do so because they have been ignored by their senators and congressmen. Isn’t shouting better than biting off fingers and beating up your opposition (aka SIEU)?
Posted by: deanbob | September 4, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Nancy Pelosi,has already let the cat out of the bag,about a trigger,she acts like it will be set so sensitive that it will be tripped in less than a week of the health care bill being signed. No trigger for a Public Option,No money from Medicare to fund a Public Option,Let insurance companies compete across state lines,and have Tort Refom to reduce costs.
Posted by: Marion | September 4, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
gus amaral…our founding fathers didn’t put anywhere in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence (which declared us separate from Great Britian) that government provided services were the “rights” of Americans if you can show me otherwise please do. Less government intervention is always better unless you are too lazy to take care of yourself.
Posted by: cwg | September 4, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Where is the Van Jones Story?
Posted by: mike | September 4, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Van Jone, Obama’s green jobs czar, Obama’s adviser. Van Jones is a former Black Panther, He recently said white people are poisoning the water in black neighborhoods, he rioted during the Rodney King riots and stole goods. He is a self proclaimed communist. As green jobs advisor, he wants to shut down most industry. This guy is a radical loon and he has this power??? Where’s the story ABC news?
Posted by: mike | September 4, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Once again a bad bill is a bad bill is a bad bill and this is a very bad bill. For those of you on here preaching how it needs to pass simply ask yourself…if this is so good then why don’t the people that are writing and pushing for it also saying that they will be the first to sign up? Why is this only good for the “average” American but not good enough for those in Congress or our President? Here’s another thing…something the story here missed. Obama made this statement to ABC “Americans have a right to know whose voices are being heard in the policymaking process.” Ok…so why not then release the names before Sept 15th of this year? Why will they only acknowledge the names if you can give the exact name and date of visit? After throwing a July 4th party for the press I’m some how guessing there will be a lot more “personal” visits so names will not have to be released.
Posted by: mikemcdon321 | September 4, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm