White House: We’re Creating an Economic Environment for Lessening Job Loss

How can the stimulus impact the job #’s when it doesn’t go into effect until 2010 or 2011?

No mention of job growth? Figures!

“How can the stimulus impact the job #’s when it doesn’t go into effect until 2010 or 2011?”
Regret | Sep 4, 2009 12:36:41 PM
What are you talking about? There are over $200 billion in tax cuts in there that technically went into effect Jan 1 (the 2009 tax year), plus they certainly have spent a great deal of money outright already, and have a lot of businesses keeping staff on to respond to RFPs for government infrastructure projects getting underway.
The stimulus spending isn’t instant, and they have been going slow to keep fraud low, but a great deal of money has gotten out.

It’s not working where I live! There are no jobs only job losses…
Obama should be devoting all his time to the economy and jobs, this is what will sink his presidency (economics)…just look at history.

Has Biden ever had an original thought?

Joe Biden issued the following statement today. ” Since President Obama is out of town through the weekend I have initiated the following jobs initiative. S…eptember has been declared National Wilderness Month by the President. As many of you know there are lots of trees in the wilderness and some of them have leaves which will begin to drop from the limbs. I am creating 200000 Leaf Czar positions since we still have only spent about 10% of the stimulus package. Each Czar will be issued a rake and be sent into the wilderness to clean up the fallen leaves from these evergreen trees. This will help alleviate all the forest fires being caused by global warming and follows through on our promise of “rake ready” jobs as well as create thousands of jobs in the rake manufacturing industry. If Congress will immediately pass this expenditure, I promise the unemployment rate will drop below 6% by October.We will also be able to use the leaves in our energy program since they were green at one time thus eliminating our dependence on foreign oil. Yes we can…”
(yes, this is a joke)

Duh?
Maybe Obama missed the message…..we aren’t looking for a reduction job losses…..we are looking for jobs creation!
Talk about not understanding the problem!

Since the Merit of the Stimulis was to create jobs and it sure has not done that,Maybe we should demand it be given back to the treasury and Tax Payer. If the White House waits long enough there will be no more jobs to lose,then they can say we have lost no more jobs this month. What kind of Crapola are they spreading?

Terrific news. Now that that’s solved,
let’s have some more teachable moments
about conflict resolution, or something………..

Don’t anyone pull that foot out of Sheriff Joes’ mouth!!

“We’re making progress,” Biden said. Today’s number is “much too high but it’s roughly 2/3rds” what it was eight months ago.
Of course, brilliant Joe forgets that companies have cut their payrolls to the bone so they have run out of people to lay off – for the moment. They will watch the bottom line for a quarter or two and then start over with more layoffs if profit doesn’t return. But Joe doesn’t know this because he’s never had a real job or run a real business. Maybe he should stay at a Holiday Inn.

“Since the Merit of the Stimulis was to create jobs and it sure has not done that,Maybe we should demand it be given back to the treasury and Tax Payer.”
Marion | Sep 4, 2009 1:32:13 PM
Does that include taxpayers “giving back” the $288 billion in tax cuts too? Including the $70 billion tax cut to the upper middle class this year alone, introduced by Republican amendment in the House. And canceling the 2200 road projects that thousands of businesses are documented as under contract and ramping up to perform?

Does that include taxpayers “giving back” the $288 billion in tax cuts too? Including the $70 billion tax cut to the upper middle class this year alone, introduced by Republican amendment in the House. And canceling the 2200 road projects that thousands of businesses are documented as under contract and ramping up to perform?
Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 4, 2009 1:47:56 PM
Yes.

“Maybe Obama missed the message…..we aren’t looking for a reduction job losses…..we are looking for jobs creation!
Talk about not understanding the problem!”
Rick McDaniel | Sep 4, 2009 1:30:53 PM
That’s funny enough to be reposted on it’s own. Talk about not understanding the problem indeed.

What did the republicans do when job losses began in 2007 and 2008. Nada. What Obama was faced with no other president has had to deal with including the lies/rumors/mis-statementa and the venom of the talk show hosts. He has done a great job is trying to ignore this but what is happening now is more than just not likeing the health care bill. Here in Atlanta,they want to pass an amendment to prevent democrats from enforcing the health care reform should it pass. Who asked them to take charge of my health care? They have no right to prohibit anything important like that. They would rather see more people lose homes due to forclosure (most due to rising cost of health care) than to let Obama succeed. I cannot understand this hate especially from the people who are always professing such strong religious beliefs. Lord, save me from these people. Most intelligent people know just what is really going on here and you are fooling no one. As for the job losses, sadly they will be the last thing to turn around and everyone knows this. President Obama is trying to help by extending the unemployment benefits and by the way this is also adding to the deficit but it is for a good cause so lets understand this. Also, the passing of a health care bill will help those without jobs and no health care. What is wrong with everyone?

And canceling the 2200 road projects that thousands of businesses are documented as under contract and ramping up to perform?
Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 4, 2009 1:47:56 PM
Arizona issued a statement saying that shovel-ready jobs will create approximately 2000 construction-related jobs – BY THE END OF 2010. They continued to say that even shovel-ready jobs take a long time to get going.
I believe recovery dot gov listed creating/saving 77,000 jobs for Arizona. Since no one is keeping track of saved jobs, looks like they have a long way to go.
But that’s ok, keep rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

“I suppose the DNC talking points he downloads everyday don’t mention that the $200B tax cut equates to just $8 per week per employed individual. That’s about one lunch per week. With the loss of an additional 216K jobs in August that lessens the impact of jhw539′s tax cut.”
j0112 | Sep 4, 2009 1:47:51 PM
Really? So we can raise $100 billion a year – about the CBO estimation of healthcare reform bill costs – by raising taxes only $8 a week? That sounds like an awfully good deal… (The actual numbers are more like $13 a week, $50 a month, and that only covers half the tax cut. But I guess Republicans are wealthy enough that an extra $50 a month in the paycheck is irrelevant to their lives.)
Stepping back from the documented fact you’re wrong, doesn’t the right wing do even the slightest reality checks before mangling and parroting whatever they heard on some radio show last week?

BBC: Set 4, 2009:
“The unemployment rate rose after dipping to 9.4% in July but the Labor Department said the job loss figure was the smallest in a year.
Analysts had expected the unemployment rate to rise to 9.5% and job reductions to total 225,000.
However, Nigel Gault, chief US economist at IHS Global Insight, said that the rise in the jobless rate was not too discouraging: “What I would take encouragement from is the fact is the trend in the rate of decline in jobs is still improving, that private sector jobs were down 198,000, that’s 50,000 better than the previous month and it’s almost 200,000 better than the month before that.”

BBC: August 28, 2009:
“Consumer spending accounts for about 70% of economic activity in the US.
It is, therefore, an important factor in the US economy’s recovery.
On Thursday, revised figures for US economic activity beat analysts’ expectations.
The figures confirmed that the economy had shrunk at an annual rate of 1% between April and June. Analysts had expected the figure to be revised downward.
The second-quarter figures were an improvement on the 6.4% annual pace of contraction in the first three months of the year, and they helped to fuel hopes that the US economy is on its way to recovery.”
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Thank you President Obama and administration.

What is wrong with everyone?
Posted by: talmag | Sep 4, 2009 1:58:13 PM
“Everyone” being people who don’t agree with obama, or you. I personally don’t believe there’s anything “wrong” in that sense.
Another quote: “Who asked them to take charge of my health care?” I ask the same thing, who gave the writers of these monsters the right to penalize me for disobedience? That little section about fining people for not having health care is pretty ugly. So don’t whine about someone, somewhere, defending people against this. Guess what? You can still accept the edicts, and leave others out of “democrats … enforcing the health care reform.” Your quote.
I see a whole lot of democrat/liberal willingness to force your beliefs on others. What happened to Dissent?? Oh, yeah, now the revolutionaries are the government. That, my friends, changes everything. Look to history.

“That little section about fining people for not having health care is pretty ugly. So don’t whine about someone, somewhere, defending people against this. ”
Eyes Open | Sep 4, 2009 2:20:47 PM
So society is expected to not let you die of a broken arm even if you don’t have enough money, yet you find it appalling that society asks you to pay for this service? Or are you advocating we allow people to die of broken arms? Or really, you just like the status quo – you can be insurance free and just keep freeloading off the emergency rooms if your really need it.

Posted by: jhw539 | Sep 4, 2009 2:22:18 PM
“Obama has been performing up to my expectations – not perfect, not abysmal, but entirely competent and inline with what I expected from his long record of public service in IL.”
So then you think that this is “a new era of accountability and transparency in a post-partisan, post-racial world.” Because that is what he campaigned on.
“If you’re surprised that the ESTIMATE of unemployment put out at the start of the year turned out not to be perfect, that is really your problem.”
No I’m not surprised at all. But look at the promises that were made about the unemployment rate to pass the bill. People – especially uninformed people – take those things at their word. All I’m saying is Obama took advantage of his popularity, his knowledge that people hear what they want to hear, and played the country accordingly.
I know you’re not stupid. You know what I’m saying is true about him is true.

“Most of us realize that Mega-corporate run America, after years of free-market enterprising, have put our country at risk for failure.” gus amaral
So gus are you saying that government control of industry and everything else is the answer?? I work for government and see it from the inside. It is not the way to go. The Government works for us not vice versa.

“Biden was speaking via a teleconference to employees of solar panel manufacturer Solyndra, Inc., in Fremont, California… Biden heralded the environmental jobs being created…”
No doubt there was no mention of the closing of the NUMMI auto plant in Fremont, with 4700 employees and with ripples down the supply line of up to as many as 10,000 jobs. I’m sure the solar panel factory will cover all those, right? Right?

Biden said, “hope is like the sun, as you journey to it cast the shadow of our burden behind it.”
And don’t forget your pooper scooper.

Even though the stimulus was about half as big as it should have been, and included too many tax cuts, it is kind of refreshing to have a President who actually cares how the broader economy is doing rather than just how many of his friends can stuff their pockets with taxpayer money.

“So society is expected to not let you die of a broken arm even if you don’t have enough money, yet you find it appalling that society asks you to pay for this service?”
The notion that someone’s broken arm is a problem for “society” is at the root of the current mess. And Obama’s efforts will make things far, far worse.

it would be very foolish to make absolute statements about vague generalities.
Posted by: gus amaral | Sep 4, 2009 2:59:41 PM
Speaking of absolute statements about vague generalities…
Most of us realize that Mega-corporate run America, after years of free-market enterprising, have put our country at risk for failure.
Posted by: gus amaral | Sep 4, 2009 2:32:55 PM
Did you use your computer today gus? The computer chip inside was the result of a mega-corporation creating new products in a free market system. And the rest of the computer? Same thing.
Was Barney Madoff a mega-corporation? No. People are bad, gus – not mega-corporations. When the federal & state govt does a more efficient job of watching over things and encouraging growth in an honest, ethical way… then we’ll talk. Otherwise, I’ll take the mega-corporation and free market any day – warts and all.

Government control of cooperation’s is not the answer. The people’s control of the government is and always has been the answer. We once had monopoly laws in place for a reason. How did lobbying become legal? Lobbying is a form of legalized bribery and is an outright insult to all Americans! Cooperation have taken control of government and are now being allowed to write their own legislation. Our voices are being ignored, there is no longer any transparency, we are being lied to on a cregular bases, and corruption has set all too deep.

Single Payer/Medicare for All, HR 676, would create 2.6 million new jobs and guarantee healthcare for all Americans, with coverage that allows you to choose your own doctor and never lose benefits, even if you move or lose your job.
Obama – NO!
Single-Payer – YES!
HR3200 – NO!
HR676 – YES!

Vice President Biden really knows how to spin. He says: “When we took office back in January, job losses were staggering…” Regardless,the spin, the numbers during the past 6 months are even more staggering.
Here are the unemployment rates for Jan 2008 through August 2009.
2008: Jan,4.9%; Feb, 4.8; Mar, 5.1; Apr, 5.0; May, 5.5; Jun 5.6; Jul, 5.8; Aug, 6.2; Sep, 6.2; Oct 6.6; Nov, 6.8; and, Dec, 7.2; 2009: Jan, 7.6; Feb, 8.1; Mar, 8.5; Apr, 8.9; May, 9.4; Jun, 9.5; Jul, 9.4; Aug, 9.7.

Percy = FAIL
Read up on the relationship between job losses and unemployment rate. Generally, the former leads the latter. Econ 101, man.

“Left-wing violence update: Police are now searching for the cowardly left-winger who bit off an elderly man’s finger at a health care rally.”
Right wing violence update: Said man had his finger bitten when attempting to punch the biter in the mouth a 2nd time after sucker punching him.

Posted by: Eyes Open | Sep 4, 2009 4:39:41 PM
“That’s seriously…sad. You can’t even see, can you? Other people’s beliefs mean nothing to you? They have no right to believe in anything you don’t? My, how very democratic of you. And who (if your mind will let you pull up this FACT) said “BELIEVE!”? Why, ’twas Obama!
Just keep on believin’, gus. Facts and logic are getting in the way, though. But you can ignore them, I know you can. Be strong for the Faith.”
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This is an illogical rant. fact.
you missed the meaning of the original statement, almost entirely.

“Even though the stimulus was about half as big as it should have been, and included too many tax cuts, it is kind of refreshing to have a President who actually cares how the broader economy is doing rather than just how many of his friends can stuff their pockets with taxpayer money.”
Well said !!!

As far as the stimiulus goes ….. it’s not like Obama created the problem …. it was thrown in his very capable lap by …. hmmmmm …. let’s see Bush/Cheney for 8 years prior ….. guess it was them & previous de-regulation of …. well, let’s see, financial institutions ….. oh, & trickle-down economics.
Not that I’m bitter or anything …. I did like Reagan & Eisenhower …. back when the Republicans weren’t so hateful.
Sorry ….. I find them these days just as polarizing as they find the current aadministration. I wasn’t always that way about the GOP.

Too much BS from the Obama administration.

In Janurary the CBO told us that if no stimulus were passed, we would be out of the recession in the 3rd quarter of this calendar year. We’re right on schedule, but we’ve added $787 Billion to the deficit.
Thank you, Mr. President. If this reckeless adventure in spending helps to kill your cuckoo public option, it will all have been worth it.

I see that the “it’s George Bush’s fault” excuse is alive and well. 20% of the Obama presidency has already been completed and everything is still blamed on the previous administration by some individuals.How do we know that the stimulus didn’t make things worse? How do we explain that the unemployment rate not only exceeds the White House predictions with a stimulus boost, but exceeds the White House predictions WITHOUT the stimulus?Today the unemployment rate for teenagers was reported to be at the historic high,yet where is President Obama?Is “acting President Biden” supposed to explain these numbers?People, at some point the President has to forget about getting out of town and at least give the illusion of doing something. Currently this is government by Brownian Motion.

The right wing extremists have done the Republican party no favors. People are tired of the neverending sreaming and criticism on every issue from Michelle’s dresses to the Pres taking his kids for ice cream.
People are tired of the fear mongering, smears and hate from the political right.
You’ve been turning people off the in droves.
The conventional wisdom in recent weeks has been that President Barack Obama’s approval rating has been in decline. And compared to his post-inauguration high, it certainly has.
Today, Gallup offers some evidence that Obama’s approval number is edging up again.
Obama’s approval rating in Gallup’s daily tracking poll has now gone up four straight days, and this afternoon stands at 55%.
Five new national polls show President Obama with an approval rating in the 52 to 56 percent range.
An Ipso-McClatchy survey found 56 percent of those surveyed approve of Obama’s performance in office, while 40 percent disapprove. CBS News came up with a similar finding, 56 percent approval to 37 percent disapproval.
At the other end of the spectrum, the approve-disapprove margin is just 53-45 in a CNN poll. Pew Research comes in at 52-37.
You right wingers have blown it with your blind ideological agenda to smear the President and your “The sky is falling” screaming.

“Obama won’t be happy until 50% are unemployed!” Posted by: drjohn | Sep 4, 2009 7:16:46 PM
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This is the kind of senseless, obvious smear comment that it driving people away from the right wing in droves.

The Gallup Poll had Democrats +17 a few months ago.
Today Democrats are +5.
Bad news for Democrats.

“Employers fired people when Obama was elected.” Posted by: William | Sep 4, 2009 8:03:11 PM
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What an uninformed comment.
The unemployment figures started rising under Bush a full year before Obama was elected.
You also seem to be ignorant of the fact the economic meltdown under Bush was WORLDWIDE – not just in the United States.
You should read some international newspapers – or at least some real newspapers – and try to get up to speed on world affairs.

Unemployment is 9.7% BECAUSE of OBAMA and only a FOOL who lacks basic math skills would see otherwise.

Well, if it doesn’t work, I guess its time to repleal the Obama tax cuts.

The only thing that can save Obama is creating JOBS. But that becomes difficult in this outsourced economy. Who are the unemployed going to vote for when the money dries up… Perhaps… REAL “Change!” Cause the status quo just isn’t cutting it.
Check out David Swanson’s article “The More Things Change” He sums up Obama’s dilemma pretty well.

“Horsecrap, the economy, the markets and employment had been in freefall for almost a year leading up to the election and simply continued its trajectory when Obama was elected.”
Wasn’t Obama a US Senator back then? Why didn’t he spearhead an effort to warn about and head off the collapse? Hmmmmm?

Sure, more jobs for those who meet race, gender, sexual orientation, and other socioeconomic federal guidelines.

If there’s any recovery, it is in spite of WH policy, not because of it. The inflation being set up with the stimulous…and of course the idiot Health Care Plan will pretty much douse any real recovery with inflation. Didn’t gold just start trading at $1K per ounce yesterday?

“Obama won’t be happy until 50% are unemployed!” Posted by: drjohn | Sep 4, 2009 7:16:46 PM
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This is the kind of senseless, obvious smear comment that it driving people away from the right wing in droves.
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Unfortunately, though it is probably the case.

It’s hilarious to see the right wingdings up here blaming Obama for a global recession that started prior to his term. Do you really think your rantings make any sense, or serve any purpose other than to drive the country into the ground?

Joe Biden used to say that the 787 billion stimulus spending will keep the jobless rate below 8%. Now the rate is 9.7%, what else can he says ?

Sounds like the definition for ‘snow-job’.

James L. – Ya know, this recession was built largely on the unregulated practices within the (private) Wall Street, banking and insurance industries with their creative investments. The stimulus monies had to be used to stabalize them…unfortunately. Had we not done this under Bush and now Obama, we would have had a deeper recession and probably a depression. We are ever so slowly exiting the recession. I note that banks have begun repaying the loans with interest, the housing market has begun to perk up and there are signs across the world that economies are rebounding. Now, we can assume your posture and position that Obama has done nothing and that things are worsening or we can look at reality. The job market has not rebounded yet. It is at 9.6 percent. Job markets are one of the last things to rebound because businesses are still skitish about new investments and borrowing. I suspect we are probably about 8 months from a more complete recovery. So you can stop with the negativity as things are beginning to turn around.

I will not hire any new employees until at least 2011 if that early.
I can’t afford to do business. I had to let go 15 people this year. I hired 5 people in 2008. They were part of the 15 I had to let go.
It is a shame that so many people do not understand that when you run a small business like I do you manage around 1.5 million dollars in contracts in a good year but when that number drops to less than half as it has this year at 700,000 it destroys everything.
I can’t afford to keep people employed and I have not made a profit this year. In fact, I have had to use my savings to keep the business alive and prevent further hirings.
I blame the Democrat controlled Congress and President Obama. They are to blame. I noticed a subtle change early in 2008. They screwed with the minimum wage, forcing me to not bring in younger workers to fill orders during our summer hours.
The teenage unemployment rate is 26%. This is the fault of Democrats having raised the minimum wage. In their desire to ‘help’ they have caused millions to become unemployed.
Obama is a disaster. I detest what he is doing to this economy.

Fred – Get real. Your statement totally overlooks the past eight years of deficit spending on Iraq and the failure to regulate businesses that created the instruments “hedge funds”, phony wealth and Ponzi schemes that undermined the economy. You say the current administration is at fault for high unemployment rate because of “proposed trillions in new spending.” This does not account for the trillions in deficits racked up under the Bush Administration and the current budget which included the stimulus package (under Bush). Deficits do matter….which is not what Cheney espoused. However, what we invest taxpayer dollars in also makes a difference. There is very little return for investments in another country’s infrastructure and a war such as Iraq. But, there is economic return for investments in such things as education, job training and our own infrastructure. Deficits do matter! But, investments in developing American industry, education and innovation have more return than the waste, fraud and abuse under the previous administration.

Save Jobs—Impeach Obama.