Axelrod: Fox News Is ‘Not Really A News Organization’
WH Communications Director Anita Dunn declared a war with Fox News this week and this morning on This Week, Axelrod reinforced their stance saying “[FOX] is really not news.”
I asked him if he's worried his strategy is fortifying his enemy?
“I’m not concerned, Mr. Murdoch has a talent for making money,” Axelrod said.
“The only argument that Anita was making is that they are not really a news organization, if you watch even its not even their commentators, but a lot of their news program. It’s really not news, it’s pushing a point of view and the bigger thing is that other news organizations like yours, ought not to treat them that way. And we’re not going to treat them that way, we’re going to appear on their shows and participate, but understanding that they represent a point of view.”
Watch our exchange HERE.
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FOX News is like most of the rest of the programming on its network….trash. Murdoch has made a fortune pawning trash TV to the American public while decrying the breakdown of civilization. They have made an institution of hypocrisy.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 18, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Considering that NBC almost has its own office in the White House, Mr. Axelrod has a lot of chutzpah calling out Fox.
Posted by: Greg | October 18, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am
it’s called Fox Faux for a reason..
Posted by: Gus | October 18, 2009, 10:36 am 10:36 am
And he thinks ABC news or CBS news or NBC news or CNN news aren’t opinion providers. This man better lay off the drugs. Isn’t this story an opinion. Axelrod’s perspective is his opinion. He is a fool
Posted by: Jack | October 18, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
The only reason the WH is declaring war with Fox is because Obama’s got the rest of the news organizations in his back pocket, but Fox won’t bow to His Highness.
Posted by: Ang | October 18, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Amen. The circus Fox “News”??? has made of American political discussions is an embarassing spectacle which the rest of the world watches with the same bewilderment and disgust as they’ve done watching Jerry Springer from abroad, wondering if all Americans act and behave similar. It might make entertaining television but it is scary to think people really act/believe like that. Is the right so angry at losing control that they will stoop to any level to discredit and marginalize the left? Have we lost all moderation and reason? Our politics have become purely emotionally motivated and from what I see, the right is clearly at fault.
Posted by: finally | October 18, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Fox News hammers the Government for their bad decisions be it GOP run or Dem run. We are Canadian/English and firmly believe that Fox News is more fair than the others combined
Posted by: Chris | October 18, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
This is just another of the Obama team tactics to rid themselves of anyone who will not worship Obama. Axelrod/Obama is just scared of Fox News since they are the only news network willing to report the truth against Obama and his associates/czars. Fox has the highest ratings of all the networks combined. People want the truth, not news stories to support Obama and his agenda.
Posted by: Debbie | October 18, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Mr. Arod’s comments indicate to me that he is using his skill as a WH spokesman to convince the public of another falsehood. If FOX is not a news network then why do they even bother to mention it. I think they are scared. Afterall what happened to that energy czar freak that disappeared so suddenly from the picture. Now it is time for Anita Dunn and Mark Lloyd to go as well. Anita Dunn thinks Mao Tse Tung is great!! Good grief people wake up and smell the crack.Lloyd thinks Chavez is wonderful.OMG!!!!!!
Posted by: hil | October 18, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am
ALRIGHT NOW!!! Call it exactly what it is! Its about time people start really questioning the journalistic credibility of FOXagendaNews.
Posted by: FS | October 18, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am
FOX is at the top of the idiot tier. It is a tabloid network-no news, just opinions. Close behind are the other ‘networks’. Yellow journalism. ABC-CBS-MSNBC report and slant gossip garbage for the most part. FOX creates the garbage.
Posted by: Erik | October 18, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am
It’s true. Fox news is essentially Republican TV. It’s entertainment. Just like the talk shows.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am
create ‘classes’, and encourage warfare between them…
Posted by: ncpilot09 | October 18, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am
This is just like cuba, vz, china , n. korea, Iran and other countries trying to neutralize/silience/remove any opposing view and opposition to their political view. Very dangerous road for america to travel and being driven by the president.
Posted by: Joe | October 18, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am
FOX NEWS! “Biggoted and Slanted”!!
Posted by: Sentinel | October 18, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Fox News hammers the Government for their bad decisions be it GOP —Fox news claimed fannie and Freddie made all the bad loans in the sub prime melt down. They said, essentially, it was all the black’s fault, all thoes blacks who took out loans they couldn’t afford and then dumped them. But whoops! Businessweek Magazine came out about a month later and did a big analysis and said, uhhh, no, actually, Fannie and Freddie did not MAKE bad loans, they invested in the same derivatives everyone else did that were BACKED by the bad loans, just like the banks did. The bad loans, the subprimes, were made by unregulated PRIVATE mortage companies. So if you’re inclined to say the government does everything wrong, and that regulation is bad, then these pesky little facts would be a problem for you, because the PRIVATE industry mortage companies that bush would NOT regulate then killed the economy NOT Fannie and Freddie whose lending standards were much stricter. So…did Fox EVER retract their statement it was all Fannie and Freddie’s fault?????Nope. In fact, they just kept on it. Why? Do you imagine they can’t read? Or are so ignorant they were not aware of businessweek and wallstreet journal anaylsis???? well, maybe, but my bet, Murdoc said “hmmm, our listeners wont like that. well, dont tell them. They’ll never find out on their own! God knows they dont read teh wallstreet journal or Business Week! I just want my ratings!” and still, ONE YEAR LATER< to this day, you STILL get right wingers coming on here defending Fox as great news and claiming it was all Fannie and Freddie's fault.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
To all you Fox News supporters stop drinking the cool-aid. Ever since the Fox News network went on the air in 1996 they were never a news outlet, but the communication arm of the Republican Party and still are. They wouldn’t know what was fair and balance was if it hit them in the face.
Posted by: bob | October 18, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
lol You people on here debating this. The reason he said Foxnews is not a news channel… because they’re not. Go look at the executives and directors histories. Do you know Roger Ailes history?
If you call Foxnews News you HAVE to call the Enquirer news…
the reason we are in the situation that we are in and the last decade went the way it went, why we ignored the financial issues, elected George Bush twice, went to war…go look at when FoxNews launched.
We elected , went to war, ignored our financial travesties all becuase of the hype and spin of Fox (extension of the enquirer) News.
Youwant to be mad at our situation. Fox is a cancer to democracy… they are a tabloid standard…and screwed over your children.
Posted by: dl | October 18, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Please George…
you know Rahm.
Can you tell him that this strategy is so asinine, demeans the presidency, and makes someone like me, who wants the policies of this administration to succeed, be so totally turned off by the thuggery of the Chicago advisers?
Anita Dunn, Gibbs, Axelrod, Emanuel… and, sadly, Obama… STOP.
You make yourselves look small.
Obama promised to be the president of all Americans, to listen especially when they disagree.
Regardless of the news content at Fox, it is the channel that troops in Iraq and Afghanistan tune into, that people throughout this country tune into — Americans.
What do you gain by dissing so many people?
I am so disgusted. So absolutely disgusted by the lack of decency, the inability to take the high road, and the disrespect for presidential prestige displayed by this administration.
They’re embarrassing us. And we want President Obama to succeed. We want health care reform, and climate change legislation, and immigration reform, and support the foreign policy by in large.
But this sort of thuggery is appalling and I can’t stand to be so associated with it. It makes me lose my respect for the administration and wish for and administration that would restore respect for all Americans regardless of what they believe.
Why are they so blind and stupid, George????
Please tell Rahm.
Posted by: Jenna | October 18, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Amazing to me that the Obama Administration can blatantly call out Fox News because Fox is the only news company not completely in the tank for liberalism. It’s painfully apparent CBS, ABC, NBC and the rest all have a liberal agenda and daily promotes Obama’s policies. None have an ounce of integrity about them. So that leaves Fox, which by the way, often has liberal commentators offering a balanced perspective. This simply isn’t good enough for Obama; how dare ANYONE not get on board with his Marxist train!?? Well, I guess it says something about the value of Fox given their ratings. There’s something Obama fears.
Posted by: fedup_11 | October 18, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
The fact that Fox is anti-Obama is immaterial in my opinion. The problem I have with Fox is that they call obvious falsehoods and half-truths news. If you are so against someone or something you should be able to provide truth that shows why the person/idea is so bad, Fox has shown repeatedly that they cannot.
The only time Fox attacks any Republican is when the Republican has said something that doesn’t agree with the Fox storyline.
Posted by: Tom | October 18, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Since when is the White House an authority on the news??? Don’t they have a SMALL vested interest in who reports what?
Posted by: Frank | October 18, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
If Fox is an arm for the GOP then MSNBC and CNN are arms for the Obama administration. The administration attacks on FOX exhibits to me a fear that they have for critism and the massive step the are willing to take to supress freedom of speech. This is not exactly the unity Obama spoke of during his campaign. Appears that division is the name of the game and divide and conquer may be the objective. It is all about perception mr. president….it is all about perception.
Posted by: jj | October 18, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am
All one needs to do is to go to the official website of each of the major American news organizations and look at the top stories on their opening pages. FauxNews is pathetic, and I automatically lose any respect for anyone who believes anything that is said on Murdoch’s network. I think the “National Enquirer” has more credence as a serious journalistic endeavor. Beck, Hannity and (of course) Bill-O all blatantly push their far-right agenda across as “fair and balanced” reporting, when it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that their agenda is the spread of false propaganda designed to enhance the stature of the right, and to use scare tactics on people in order to discredit the left. Oh… and the fascination with crap like “Octo-mom” is another thing that FauxNews exploits, because they know the same imbeciles who believe their “reporting” will also be interested in the inbred exploits of Jerry Springer rejects.
Posted by: Dan the Man | October 18, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am
This story is simply a subtle attempt by the WH to make future “censorship” of news organizations possible and more socially/politically correct, aided by the liberal media. If Nixon were President today and his staff were making these kind of statements against a news organization, there would be outrage by the media, not what we are seeing now.
Anyway, “news” shows is a relative term. In my area we have a 3-hour “morning news” show with 15 minutes of actual news reports and the rest “chit-chat” among the anchors dealing with non-news nonsense and trivial matters. They do have sexy female anchors though!
Posted by: Terrence ODay | October 18, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Remember when the Mark Sanford scandal broke? Mark Sanford was one of the GOP’s rising star, but FOX news labeled Sanford as a Democrat. They did the same thing with Mark Foley. Again a Republican suddenly became a Democrat.
When a news organization cannot even get the most basic facts straight, it ceases to be a news organization.
FOX news is owned by Rupert Murdoch, an Australian immigrant with a God complex. He doesn’t give a rat about working people in this country. They are just toys to be manipulated for his own personal gain. He’s just here to collect the Benjamins.
FOX News is really the FAKE News Network.
Posted by: William Joseph Miller | October 18, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I have watched ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN and Fox news is tackling the issues.
It appears that this administration has a problem when a news organization that comes out with legitimate questions about there policies. We have to remember. There was a reason that the fore fathers of this country put in the freedom of the press. It was to keep the people informed of what is going on. So knowing that why would the current administration be attacking a news organization that is telling it like it is. Think about it.
Posted by: aforefreedom | October 18, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Fox news is like any other news organization. Most have a slant one way or the other. And the Obama administration isn’t much different than any other presidential administration. Wake up and smell the regime people. We are getting pushed further and further into a communist state where the people have no say. Remember we are the ones that vote for these politicians and keep them there. Don’t fall asleep on the job.
Posted by: Grace | October 18, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
The Fox News Channel is the most trusted news source in America, according to a new poll released by the BBC and Reuters that surveyed 10,000 news consumers around the world.
Asked which news source they most trusted, 11 percent of Americans named Fox News – more than any other news source in the U.S.
Fox News led the broadcast networks by substantial margins, with ABC coming in at 4 percent, NBC – 4 percent and CBS – 3 percent.
Posted by: ncpilot10 | October 18, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Regardless of the news content at Fox, it is the channel that troops in Iraq and Afghanistan tune into, that people throughout this country tune into — Americans.
————- It’s their entertainment. It’s right wing Republican TV, just like the Catholic channel is for catholics and the evangelical channles are for evangelicals. People watch all sorts of things for entertainment. If Obama wants to go on Fox for fun, for entertainment, fine, but why bother going on for a serious policy issue. Why take part in the farse? Call it what is is. Fox is entertainment. period.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
more recent?
An annual survey ranked Fox News as the country’s most-trusted news source … and the least-trusted.
Sacred Heart University’s third annual “Trust and Satisfaction with the National News Media Survey” found that Fox News topped the list when people were asked which news source they trust the most.
Fox News had 30% of the vote, then CNN (19.5%), NBC (7.5%) and ABC (7.5%).
When asked for which organization they trusted the least, people picked Fox News again (26.2%), then NBC (9.9%), MSNBC (9.4%) and CNN (8.5%).
Another interesting result from the study: Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly ranked as the most-trusted news anchor on cable TV.
Posted by: ncpilot10 | October 18, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Since the ABC opinion police will not let me post via cut and paste the results of numerous polls that list FOX NEWS as the MOST TRUSTED news source by substantial margins, let me suggest that you who keep bashing Fox do this: google “most trusted news sources”….you might be in for a surprise.
Posted by: ncpilot10 | October 18, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Noam Chomsky Praises Marxist Hugo Chavez But Compares Rightwing Media to Nazis
Saturday, October 17, 2009, 1:00 AM
Jim Hoft
Venezuelan Marxist Hugo Chavez praised Noam Chomsky at the United Nations in 2006 and said Bush was like the devil.
ENOUGH SAID AMERICA DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU ELECTED?
Posted by: pauldia | October 18, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Looking at most of these comments it is absolutely amazing that so many people think they are a news organization. A commentary is not news. It’s an opinion. Axelrod is also making a commentary.
It’s scary how ignorant a certain population of our country is. IF they can’t discern news against commentary, then what hope do we have.
Posted by: Tylerkad | October 18, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am
often has liberal commentators —LOL!!! what Fox news has is what a right winger would IMAGINE a liberal commentator to say. But if you actually are not a right winger and you listen to their ‘liberal’ point of view, you grow very confused as to why the ‘liberal’ doesn’t actually KNOW any of the liberal points of view on that topic and curiously looks likes…..he’s acting. Fox News is essentially the news world’s equivalent to professional wrestling.
Posted by: oh please | October 18, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am
If you can’t beat em, slander them right? Isn’t that what the democrat party is all about? Race cards and being offended anytime something doesn’t go there way? The rest of the news organizations have failed to report facts or ENTIRE stories. What has become truth and honor?
Posted by: Dan Burkard | October 18, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am
FOX Noise is much more accurate…..
Posted by: SearamblerOne | October 18, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
People are switching to FOX to, finally, learn the truth about this corrupt administration. Kool-aid drinkers are beginning to wake up and see that what OBAMA has planned for our country is not what they had envisioned, after all. FOX is the no. one cable news network; the others are running scared!
Posted by: Linda C | October 18, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Axelrod is a little jealous of Fox’s success lately. Actually all the major networks are impartial unfortunately. I actually like Fox business because they ask where is the spending going to take us down the road as opposed to Obama’s cheerleaders on the other networks. Fox does have a lot of Hollywood trash on their front page. This is unfortunate.
Posted by: Huh | October 18, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Fox is to news as National Enquirer is to newspapers and the WWE is to real wrestling. A lot of people pay attention to it, but there is little fact in the content.
Posted by: Obvious | October 18, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
I do, on occasion follow the same story with all the Networks. I’ve discovered that Fox will leave out a portion of an AP report because it contradicts the message they are trying to send. Fox absolutely has no class. Never have I heard a New commentator on any channel other than Fox make such outlandish remarks about our President. Hannity said on the day that President Obama was elected “He would be nothing without Oprah”. President Obama had graduated from one the most prestigious Universities in the US with a very high grade point average, was a community organizer and state legislator before he met Oprah. Hannity, Limbaugh and Glen Beck however couldn’t make it through the first semester of a second rate college. Fox spoon feeds hate, paranoia, and lies.
Posted by: Sharonkathleen | October 18, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am
This time last year, there were over 600,000 layoffs THAT MONTH. The stock market was crashing and we were on the precipice of an economic collapse that would have made the Great Depression look like a day in the sun. Yet if you turned to Fox News, you’d think hte biggest problem facing the country was a guy names Ayers. Fox news had NO IDEA what was happening in the financial markets and what the aftermath was going to be. They were saying Fannie and Freddie made bad loans (also another falsehood they never retracted). Tell me, in all this time of crises, where was the news? What they did report on was wrong, what they didn’t report on was HUGELY negligent in their omission. Who reports on Michael Jackson while the economy crumbles????
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Good grief! These guys won’t let it go. They have used all the other networks to promote their healthcare agenda, economic stimulus program, etc. Imagine the outrage from the liberals if the Bush administration would have favored Fox News. 2012 can’t come soon enough to get these clowns out of the Washington.
Posted by: Steve | October 18, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am
“Asked which news source they most trusted, 11 percent of Americans named Fox News – more than any other news source in the U.S.”
Being ‘trusted’ by the sheep doesn’t make what they do NEWS…..
Posted by: SearamblerOne | October 18, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Mr. Axelorod needs to concentrate on REAL issues instead of initiating a smear campaign against everyone who disagrees with Obama. I am a Democrat who is totally disgusted with this administation. If they only spent an ounce of time working on real problems like the economy, wars, etc. instead of promoting their Socialism agenda they might earn a little respect. Can’t wait until 2010 so we can start getting rid of the Democratic mess. Yes I am through with the Democratic Party. I didn’t like George Bush but he looks like a saint compared to this group!!!
Posted by: Debbie | October 18, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
This is it folks. If you don’t kiss the people in the WH’s butt, you are lied about and called names. This is America? Thank God that at least Fox has the integrity to tell the truth about the liberal agenda of this presidency.
Posted by: bo | October 18, 2009, 11:27 am 11:27 am
NBC – National Barack Cheerleaders, ABC – All Barack Cheerleaders. No news organizations there. Just a bunch of cheerleaders that “get a tingle running up and down” their legs whenever Obama speaks. How pathetic that this administration cannot fathom non-sanctioned reporting. And how embarassing as an American to see my President whine so much. I guess the “blame Bush” tact has run its course and this is what they have now devolved to.
Posted by: RDH | October 18, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Fox News is trash. I reached that conclusion during the presidental campaign and have not watched since.
Posted by: Monica Morton | October 18, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Fox news is not news organisation. Then, what is it? He said, ‘It’s really not news, it’s pushing a point of view.” Which news organisation does not sell their point of view? All have. What he said like he was convincing 5 years old kids. That was not a problem of wrong public speech. It was an attitude that he thought Americans were easily convinced by simply twisting the facts.
Posted by: Newnews | October 18, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
I do, on occasion follow the same story with all the Networks. I’ve discovered that Fox will leave out a portion of an AP report because it contradicts the message they are trying to send—–me too. I also notice that Fox throws in their ‘spin’ on why something happened, like why Fannie and Freddie fell. They just threw that in the same day. Then, when they are proved to be wrong, I watched again, and never did they detract their error. At this point now, it’s lying. But they kept it up. to this day they will still say Fannie nad Freddie brought it all down, when in fact it was private mortage companies, it was the private sector. Fox NEVER covered the democrats hearings for “Predatorial Lending Practices” on capital hill before the meltdown. Here was Barney Frank PREDICTING the meltdown, “Economic blackmail” he said, when/if the banks fall, and Fox NEVER reported it! Then when the it hit the fan, NEVER did Fox say ‘oh, by the way democrats predicted this…” LOL!!! I think they’d rather get rootcanals than admit that! And ever since, they never have! I’m sorry, but if you find you CAN’T report a story because you’re too vested in the THEORY then I think hte light bulb should go on and tell you, gee, maybe, maybe, we’re not news.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Fox News never reports anything good that the present government is doing. Everthing is negative. News should be balanced and objective. Hanity hates the President so much, you can see toxic fumes coming out of his mouth whenever he mentions the president name.
Posted by: Aintso | October 18, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
I am as liberal as you get and I check the headlines from ABC, CNN, and Fox. All the BS aside, lately, I have been getting better news from Fox then anyone. At last Fox doesn’t censor its blog.
Posted by: Real Liberal | October 18, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
I see the right-wing Sour Grape Kool-Aid drinkers (now in convenient teabag dispensers)are out in force today. Such anger over calling out their Lord and Master’s entertainment for what it is.
Oh, and Jon Stewart was the most trusted cable news person, not anyone on Fox. How about that, a real comedian beat out all the wannabes.
Posted by: Amused | October 18, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Fox news now..You CNN and MSNBC next. Obama and his minions are determined to control everything and that certainly includes the press. Shades of Chavez..
Posted by: Valerie Tarantolo | October 18, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am
How much more whining are we going to get from this administration?
Posted by: Marcus Whitfield | October 18, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Let’s be honest. The MEDIA is driven by one thing and one thing only. $$$$$$$$$$. 99.999% of the media is agenda driven by a few white guys who control 95% of the economy. Wake up everyone. You have all been bushwacked by your friendly MEDIA. Here is the solution. Don’t believe a word that the MEDIA says. Just live your life the best you can and take care of your family and friends.
Posted by: cony007 | October 18, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Fox can’t even get a defition correct. Socialize medicine is when the government OWNS the medical community – owns the hospitals, owns the actual medicine, owns the laboratoris, pays the doctor’s bills. The VA is socialized medicine. Why, if right wingers are so up in arms about not having socialized medicine, why are htey not freaking out saying the VA should go private???? and why, for the love of God, are they calling having health insurance, “socialized medicine”???? Does no one on Fox news not have a freakn dictionary????
Posted by: so true so true | October 18, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am
It not different point of views, different opinions and different takes on policies that are the issue. It is an issue when there are not enough freedom to express the differences in opinions, points of views and takes on policies. I’m not comfortable at how uncomfortable the WH appears to be with the critism coming out of FOX. The administration should let its agenda and accomplishments stand on their own and allow facts to guide the public’s opinions. Besides, while i have turned away fox at times due to statements or shows that may have been too radically right winged, i have also turned away CNN and MSNBC at times when their statements or show was too radically left winged so it seems to me opinions from all sides are a dime a dozen out ther on the air-waves. Thus, i’m a bit perplexed as to why the WH is so fearful of FOX and what some of their opininated pieces have to say. The WH need to be careful because it may give the impression that they have something to hide and that is why they are working to suppress certain opposing views.
Posted by: tan | October 18, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am
This administration is out of touch.
Jon Stewart’s criticism of the news industry in “The Audacity of Hos” is spot-on (and hillarious). Even SNL’s little skit reflects the obvious … this administration is incompetent. Unfortunately, most of the mass news media is blind to it.
Let’s hope no one else in this administration idolizes Chairman Mao or the other atheistic communist murderers that have polluted history. Be careful out there … don’t get on their enemies list.
Posted by: joe | October 18, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Whining???? You mean, the staple cry of the GOP – the WHINE! Hours and hours of bellyaching PER DAY, every blessed day, Cry cry cry. Now it’s ‘why doesn’t he come on our show?” The administration is simply answering a question. “IT’S NOT NEWS.” Three words does not a ‘whine’ make!
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am
to view fox news as “fair and balanced” pretty much went out the window year’s ago…it’s easy to test the validity of axelrod’s statement, even for a college dropout like me! compare headlines from the major news brands and then read the stories. fox news always embellishes and reinfoces any story that boosts conservative morale/ republican agenda… however you want to look at it. shep smith is cute though. i’m pretty sure he’s an alien though.
Posted by: missourimolecule | October 18, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Seriously, What are you watching? Can you remember fox bashing George Bush like it does Obama..tell the truth! The truth will make you free!
Posted by: Stanley | October 18, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am
They all bias the story mainly through omitting parts that do not tend to support their agendas. A good example is the huge story about Bush vs Chaney over pardoning. The left side made a big deal out of this and omitted the real story which is the difference between Bush not pardoning anyone compared to all that came before him. Big omission.
I watch FOX. I find it less biased when it comes to the news.
Posted by: clark | October 18, 2009, 11:47 am 11:47 am
The White House is taking a page out of Chavez’s book and isolating opposing media. OK, they offer a point of view, but they are still the popular media. If the administration isolates everybody that disagrees with them, there will be a lot of people crying in America in the future, especially many of its most hearty present-day supporters. There is no evidence coming from the White House that actually refutes Fox News’ allegations, just bravado, and contempt. I actually agree with many of Obama’s decisions to date, those that suggest to Fox News that socialism is coming, but I still think they are right, it is coming, and I don’t see any sign that it will be of the benevolent, tolerant, form, just bravado.
Posted by: JSB | October 18, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
hey seriously- i think you are correct. hey stanley- i think you are incorrect.
Posted by: missourimolecule | October 18, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Let the American People judge for themselves who they would rather get their information from.
Per the ratings, it is obvious that Americans are NOT STUPID and can decide for themselves who is telling them both sides of the story and which networks are the “Obamamaniac” networks.
Let the American people decide for themselves who they would rather trust to tell them what the Obama Administration is up to. The Obama Administration seems to want to continue to think that the American people are “TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THEM”
WE, THE PEOPLE. ARE NOT STUPID, OBAMA.
WE, THE PEOPLE, CAN SEE THAT YOUR ADMINISTRATION IS “GOVERNMENT GONE MAD”
The Congress is OURS and so is your White House … They belong to us, THE PEOPLE … and WE, THE PEOPLE, want it back … BECAUSE YOURS IS A GOVERNMENT GONE MAD
Posted by: NoObamaPlease | October 18, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Thus, i’m a bit perplexed as to why the WH is so fearful of FOX and what some of their opininated pieces have to say. —–I dont think by saying “they’re phoney baloney” is saying that you fear them. Just the opposite. Fox doesn’t simply have different opinions. They omit HUGE things from their stories, they slant what they report to support their agenda. you watch the same news story from three stations, NBC or some such, Fox and then NPR or CNN, and by far, you will get the most indebt analysis of a story from CNN or NPR. They are new stations, they have the time, the budget and they will dissect the story andthe history behind it, like a ruling from the supreme court. For instance, when is the last time you heard of a recent ruling from the supreme court reported on Fox????? Ever???? NPR reports each and every supreme court ruling as it is handed down and goes into the indebt details ofthe case and which judge voted which way. THAT is news. If there is a big news day, like the day Lehman Brothers fell, you go on NPR and they all about Lehman, have economist on saying what does this mean, on CNN, same thing, on NBC, they report it, maybe 3 minutes, on to the sports…on FOX….all you hear for a solid straight half an hour is “Bill Ayers…” You’d think somethign that happened 20 years ago was more important than an indication that our economy was about to go in free fall. I dont think one Fox news watcher would have even known Lehman fell on the day it did, nevermind what the bigger repercussions of that meant. Sure, they’re all happy wiht the news they got that day. How did they know they just missed a HUGE happening in our country. how did they know? Did they ever? does anyone on here remember the day Lehman fell? And the anxiety that brought to folks? I’m sorry, but fox news is NOT news. It is sensational entertainment. Compare what is being reported on the NEWS that day and it takes about two days to see the glaring difference.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Gus, it’s called Fox Faux because those (like you) called it that. It’s a stupid name, initiated by foolish people who result to name-calling instead of honest, civil debate.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Is it in fact that Fox News isn’t a ‘News Channel’ or is that the content is such that the Administration isn’t happy with it? Case in point Obama’s 43 Czars.
Posted by: David | October 18, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Fox is a great news organization. The reason liberals have a problem with Fox News is because they obtain comments from both sides and often the liberal side has a difficult time articulating their point of view on a particular issue, which in turn exposes their shortcomings. This is the first time I have ever seen a Presidential Administration cry about a news organization; in fact most news organizations to include news papers and magazines were against President Bush, but did you hear him or his administration crying and complaining, “NO.” I am a firefighter in the USAF Reserve and a police officer in the civilian world, my message to President Obama and his administration as well as all the liberals out there crying about Fox News, please stay out of the military and the law enforcement career field. If you can’t take Fox News you will not be able to take the military or a police career.
Posted by: DTH | October 18, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am
If it comes down to whether FOX or Obama is telling us the truth, I’d take FOX any day of the week and twice on Sunday!
Posted by: Todd | October 18, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am
I am embarrassed for President Obama. He is quite obviously an intelligent man. Why is he childishly whining because someone disagrees with him? It’s foolish on his part and all those who speak for him. Guess what, Mr. President: some people think your policies are wrong just as some think they are right. Your behaviour in this matter just strenghens the arguments of the nuts who scream SOCIALISM! You ARE behaving like a despot by trying to suppress the voice of opposition. If your policy is right, defend your policy. If you can’t convince the American people, then maybe you need to re-think the policy.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Judging by their ratings the majority of Americans would disagree with dilrods comments! If I was the Obama administration I would worry more about Iran, Pakistan, Russia and China……….they think he is a clown and seem to enjuoy yanking his chain!!
Posted by: david | October 18, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Czars. Another case in point. When has a president’s advisors ever been called ‘czars’??? who does that? how can a grown up with any credibility call a presidential advisor and cabinet member, to which every president has always had, call them a ‘czar’. It’s foolish immature behavior, yet it’s common Fox news banter. Just like saing “socialized medicine” when in fact, socialism means ‘government OWNED” as in, the VA. And if government OWNED medicine is such a bad thing, why weren’t cons trying to get the VA privatized all these years?
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am
To many(most?), the president’s spat with Fox News is childish and immature.
Posted by: deanbob | October 18, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
it’s a point of view millions of people agree with cause socialists and communists are the real enemy….uneducated voters have put the kind of people who share the values of our worst enemies of the past in the oval office who plan to end democracy.
Posted by: dm | October 18, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Everyone at faux news should be jailed and waterboarded. Hannity and beck can be given shock treatment continuously.
Posted by: truthbetold | October 18, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
This administration – isn’t a really good administration either! Spin it how you want but they sure do dominate the ratings! BOO!
Posted by: Michael W | October 18, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
For all of you that are shock by news that fox news is not a real news station. It will also shock you when I tell there is know santa clause or tooth ferry.There is some good news, no boogie man are under your bed. But if you still belive it is real news organzation, I have a bridge in brooklyn I can sell you. And the aliens are coming so drink the kool aid
Posted by: eric | October 18, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Axelrod is out of his mind. FOX is the only news organization with the guts to challenge that totalitarian regime and they are upset and frightened. They also have become too accustomed to the pandering of ABC and the other traditional networks and FOX has them on defense. Keep it up FOX you are the only place where truth can be found.
Posted by: rplat | October 18, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
the president’s spat with Fox News —-What spat? It’s Fox who keeps crying Obama wont appear. Obama is the president of the United STates. He’s a busy man. He could give two craps about Fox. His spokesperson is simply answering a question. “THEY ARE NOT NEWS” is simply an answer to a question.
Posted by: R U kidding me | October 18, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
The Wall Street Journal, a Murdock-owned propaganda tool, is also not legitimate news. Its headlines, reports and analyses are distorted and biased toward right wing positions. It’s as big a joke as Fox.
Posted by: bob10001 | October 18, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
I am an independent that tilts democratic. i do watch foxnews and i love o’reilly. The problem with hannity and glenn is they seem to preach to the few extremes in the US. Just like MSNBC’s olbermann. There must be some decency in opinionated reporting; calling a president racist without any evidence is not and should never be considered decent!
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Posted by: Nduche Onyeaso | October 18, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Finally a news story about fake news. I’ve always felt Fox News was far right and shawn hannity proves it. -nuff said.
Posted by: jim | October 18, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
Seriously, if cons are so against socialized medicine, why has it been good enough for our troops? Where have you people been all this time? And even now? Why have you not been crying and whining to get Veterans health care privatized? Why are you not crying to have it changed now? Answer this, right wingers!
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
axelrod,obama their all a joke,wake up people.Give me my vote back I’ll give it to mccain.I was stupid o ote for a socialist,flat as stupid
Posted by: bigdog | October 18, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
“The fact that Fox is anti-Obama is immaterial in my opinion. The problem I have with Fox is that they call obvious falsehoods and half-truths news. If you are so against someone or something you should be able to provide truth that shows why the person/idea is so bad, Fox has shown repeatedly that they cannot.
The only time Fox attacks any Republican is when the Republican has said something that doesn’t agree with the Fox storyline.
Posted by: Tom | Oct 18, 2009 11:01:08 AM”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Alright now, present some credible evidence to support that false babble.
Posted by: rplat | October 18, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I wonder if before Hugo Chavez got to the point he is now, where he has closed down all opposition media in Venezuela, that as a first step he publicly called the targeted media’s professional integrity into question and accused them of supporting his opponents?
Posted by: walter | October 18, 2009, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Fox news is the only one creditable any more. The rest have their heads stuck up the white houses’ rear. They will say whatever they are told to say.
Posted by: yeager12 | October 18, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Obama administration’s talking points:
- blame Bush and Republicans
- demonize Fox news
- apologize to world for U.S.
- improve Talaban image
- give encouragement to Hamas, Hezbollah
- kiss up to news media (except for Fox)
Posted by: joe | October 18, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
So Fox News is the only news group pushing an ‘opinion’? Oh Really? I guess MSNBC is straight down the middle huh? I guess Keith and Maddow are just a bunch of neutral observers on their shows?
Please people. Don’t listen to this joker or anyone else in the WH. Also ABC, NBC, CBS, etc, don’t you want to at least question the WH on this sort of thing? What happens when you guys are against an admin, you will be next.
BTW people, watch Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS for youselves and make judgement. Don’t let people tell you what is bias or what, figure it out for yourself.
Posted by: lionheart | October 18, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
The dilemma here is pretty obvious – unless you ohh and ahh over EVERY LITTLE THING this White House does, you’re fodder for these kinds of wasteful, petty, childish attacks. Are you telling me that this administration has nothing better to do than launch attacks against a news channel? You’ll notice that NBC and ABC are conspicuously absent from these attacks – since both slant their news angles decidedly in favor of Obama! To Barack, Axlerod, et al – GROW UP!
Posted by: MoreNMore | October 18, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Why are they so obsessed over Fox News?
Posted by: Justin | October 18, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Fox news does need a dictionary. Socialism is when the government OWNS all the businesses. SOCIALIZED medicine means the government OWNS the hospitals, the clinics, the labs, pays the doctors. Essentially – the VA. The VA is socialized medicine and it’s what our troops have always had. Never heard a single con, nor Fox news, complain about socialized medicine for our troops, yet Fox is supposed to LOVE our troops and socialized medicine is supposed to be so evil according to them. And why Fox news says that mandating health insurance, that is run by a private insurance companies to provide health care for privately held hospitals and clinics is considered socialism is just…..wrong. Yes, they need a dictionary. They use the wrong terms constantly. It’s a bastion of ignorance. But hey, republicans are not ones to let a little things like facts get in the way of a rant.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Hey President Obama…..might want to tell your staff to stop showing their immaturity and inexperience by taking the “bait”. Turning this into a school-yard girl fight does absolutely nothing to help your position, and will most likely be used against you by Fox as “proof” that you are a Marxist Socialist who wants to control the media. Axelrod’s comments just gave Fox an entire week of headline stories and I bet Hannity/Beck/O’Reilly are busy celebrating and trying to decide how best to spin this to their MILLIONS of viewers. Even CNN and MSNBC are shaking their heads at the stupidity. Wait a minute….I wonder….are your people really so thin-skinned and naive….or….is this just a ploy to get Fox talking about something other than the health care/cap and trade bills??? Not bad……………
Posted by: Janice | October 18, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Kettle: Pot
I have observed that all of the television news networks have a common denominator. Five minutes of news, and twenty five minutes of telling people what to think under the guise of “analysis” or “roundtables”.
Maybe the reason this stands out so clearly with Fox is due to the mentality of their target audience.
The biggest problem with news organizations today is the amount of important, legitimate information covered up. In the aftermath of 9/11 nobody would ask the obvious questions and everybody joined in the chorus of “if you don’t believe the government’s version you are either a psychotic or a terrorist”.
Those anthrax filled letters must have really done the trick……..
Of course, Fox News didn’t receive any. They were already on board.
Posted by: Tom | October 18, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
I agree with Jenna’s comments about wanting our President to succeed. Why does his administration feel they need to come at a Network? Don’t we have National issues his administration can be putting their efforts towards?
I am a conservative and feel that FOX News right now is discussing issues that I feel are important. Shouldn’t people like me be represented, too? What right does the President have to stifle my 2nd amendment rights? Isn’t that why we have the 3 branches of gov’t? I am fearful that he oversteps his powers as he appoints his czars without governmental (by the people) vetting. What can WE do?
On a different point, why do so many people refer to our president by his first name? Those songs that those kids were singing, refered to him as Barack. It’s just another feather in the cap of disrespect for this man. Have you seen the video of the Russians refusing to shake his hand and his reaction? (like a chastised school boy)
So, it does not surprise me that he has taken his eye off the real issues and is fighting the Fox News network. Americans contact your congressmen/women and let your voices be heard. We may have 4 years with Mr. Obama, but we don’t have to have 4 years with the same congress. VOTE
Posted by: AmericanGirl | October 18, 2009, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
So Fox News is the only news group pushing an ‘opinion’?—no, it’s not just that. They do NOT cover the news. On the day Lehman brother fell they reported on….Ayers!!! They NEVER have reported a single surpreme court ruling. They reported that Fannie and Freddie MADE the bad loans that went bad and caused the meltdown. THat was just WRONG and never did they retract that when Business Week Magazine and The Economist came out and proved it. It’s not just their opinion, it’s their LACK of news coverage. you report on michael jackson as your lead story on a day that there is an indication that we are headed for a huge recession, I’m sorry, but you can’t call yourself a news source if you do not report the actual news of the day! Fox news NEVER Reported on the hearting the democrats had on Predatorial Lending Practices that PREDICTED the economic free fall. If you watch Fox, you NEVER KNEW those hearings happened! HOW can you say you are news source when you DO NOT REPORT THE NEWS!!!! If democrats do something good, something that makes sense, something that was smart, fox WILL NOT REPORT IT! YOU are being censored if you watch fox.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
malcat … way to go dude!
Posted by: joe | October 18, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Um, WHAT… Obama has ONE channell that he can’t control and the government has to declare war on it. O’bomba you;ve got enough wars on your plate, how about honoring your promise to bring the troops home to defend OUR land? I think the UN can take the rest of the world, let THEM go bankrupt, and while your at it, try to find all those BILLIONS that you gave YOUR friends in BIG buisness… Nah, too complicated, and can’t be summed up in a TElePROMPTeR!!! Oh well, just B* and MOAN like the rest of your shrinking amount of supporters. More WARS, More Bankruptcy… YES WE CAN!!!
Posted by: jafo | October 18, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Wow, they must be really scared of you, Fox! Keep up the good work.
Posted by: Aaron | October 18, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
I’ve not heard all but Fox News called the Democratic or Obama moutpiece. I’ve heard them called libral. There is no question that Fox News is conserative but I don’t for one minute believe that they are a republican mouthpiece simply because they disagree with many of the policies of the Obama administration. Are all opposers of the administration going to be branded and discrimanated against, is this a new trend? One can only hope this does not last very long.
Posted by: Robert | October 18, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
What’s funny is EVERY other “news” channel out there spews liberal based propaganda. At least the folks at FOX admit that they are republicans and know the difference between news and opinion. Another example of if you disagree with King oh wait that’s presidant Obama then you’re under attack. What’s happening to our country is sad and people better wake up.
Posted by: Allison | October 18, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
This administration is really getting too sensitive. Frankly, I think it’s interesting to watch Fox just to see what the others aren’t reporting.
Posted by: LongT | October 18, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Mr. Axelrod has got it all wrong. FOX is the only news organization in the country, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and spanish/latino Univision are arms of Obama’s Socialist White House. If you really want to know the truth you have to watch FOX or else listen to talk radio or look for the facts and the truth in the internet. It’s OK George let them keep it up, they are just digging themselves into a deeper hole little by little, the American people know what is going on. Even liberals are beginning to doubt Obama, he is great at talking but not at delivery. By the way you asked the best questions to Obama during his interview with you!
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Tom: Fox isn’t the only “NEWs” network with false and half truths. They all do it. What about Dan Rather’s reporting? The WH is looking like a spoiled child who cannot stand that someone doesn’t like them. My advise to them: Grow up!
Posted by: dnc-donotcare | October 18, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
For instance, when is the last time you heard of a recent ruling from the supreme court reported on Fox????? Ever????
——–THE FOX NEWS SHOW! Nice try. We’re not talking about obama appearing on a website, are we? The Fox News Show has NEVER reported on a supreme court decision. Everytime I drive home and hear NPR do an indebt analysis of a supreme court decision, I come home and turn on Fox news just for kicks and see what they reported that day and it’s hysterical. When Lehman brothers fell I came home and turned on Fox news and you’d think the biggest story in the nation that day was a guy named Ayers. How many Fox news WATCHERS on here even remember the day Lehman fell?????? You didn’t even know it did, did you? and if you did, it had to have been someplace other than Fox.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
If FoxNews isn’t news, then neither are CNN or MS-NBC.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
axelhood and the rest of obamas clowns are just a bunch of chicago scumbags, and obama said to judge him by who he hangs around with , so he must be a csb
Posted by: John | October 18, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
For the Axelrod to hold that view doesn’t bode well on his cognitive ability. It’s pure dumb and reflective of a cry baby. He knows some of the stuff that Fox’s pundits say is true–waa waa waa. They’re not fair! So let me go instill some (more) ignorance in our voter and support base.
What a goober.
Posted by: tc | October 18, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Boo, Hoo, Fox is not real news! What a bunch of whiners. Fox is more accurate then most. Especially the organization that sez “Our Healthcare reform will not add one thin dime to the deficit”. The White House is after Fox because their investigative journalism has outed so many administration officials by exposing this administrations Maoist and Communist bias.
Posted by: the_centrist | October 18, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Dear Seriously: I am a member of the military reserve and I was active duty for ten years. I am currently on active duty stationed in Southwest Asia. Since I am currently on active duty, my family is entitled to military healthcare, but we choose not to take part in it because we prefer the healthcare outside the military. Healthcare for military members has always been a service the government has promised to provide for those who have served our country. I am now in my 19th year of military service and to be honest, military healthcare is not the best healthcare and that is why 83% of the active duty military is now paying for their own healthcare through Tricare Health Insurance. Tricare allows the military member and family to obtain healthcare outside the military health system.
Posted by: DTH | October 18, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
REV JEREMIAH WRIGHT says he always watches fox news.
Posted by: paws 7000 | October 18, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
While I believe that Fox does lean to the right, I also Believe the NBC CBS and especially ABC News Organisations are far more left leaning. I believe this Nonsense coming out of the Whitehouse right now about “Evil Insurance Compqanies and the bad Fox News has far more to do with the fact that the Administration has done nothing it promised to do despite a Super Majority in Congress. Simply put it needs a scapegoat to hide its failure. Gitmo is open .. and shuffling the prisoners to new location is not any better. Gays still can’t marry or Serve Openly and instead of Reforming Health Care he has come up with a Overpriced nightmare of a insurance plan. Obama has very little substance so they are trying to hide that fact b manufacturing Bogey men. (BTW I never watched or read to Fox News until Obama started whining about them)
Posted by: Rick | October 18, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
David Axelrod is illogical.
MSNBC is pushing “one view.” Just watch their commentators to realize this. Why does he not call MSNBC out for pushing “one view.”
The White House is ridiculous.
Posted by: Benjamin | October 18, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Is Obama the next Chavez ?? Is he planning to close Fox news because has been critical to his presidency when others just play lame ?? The democrats in the White House are truly a fascist regime ! I was giving them the benefit of the doubt but I can see clearly their colors …shame on you America, You have allowed this to happened by hastely putting these people in the White House without giving it a good look.
Posted by: Not a sheep | October 18, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
They are just mad because fox news doesnt like him, every other news channel like ABC, NBC, CBS, etc… are biased and only talk about democrats and talk down to republicans/conservatives all the time. Thats why i stopped watching ABC most of the time. Its a bunch of hippie liberal bull
Posted by: mom | October 18, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Seriously write: “Seriously, if cons are so against socialized medicine, why has it been good enough for our troops? Where have you people been all this time? And even now? Why have you not been crying and whining to get Veterans health care privatized? Why are you not crying to have it changed now? Answer this, right wingers!” —-
OK, Medical care for our troops is an obligagtion of US citizens and its government promised to them when they enlisted. Why should we waste money paying some private company when the PROFIT earned could be spent by the VA on better care for the troops? Every penny spent paying profit means a penny less for care. It all comes out of the budgeted amount.
Just like Medicare. For those who do not know this: the day-to-day administration of Medicare is performed by private companies who earn profits for doing so. I know this because I worked for one of those companies for 20 years. Activities such as fraud investigations, abusive practices research, medical policy development and data analysis are all done by employees of the private company. The federal agency CMS provides oversight, but the private companies have a lot of leeway in what they do and how they do it. It’s getting better, but I personally think the government should bring all that ‘in-house’ and reduce overhead costs. But it’s been that way since Medicare began in the 60s.
So, Seriously, any more questions about privatizing VA health care? Do you want to engage in civil debate or do you just want to rant and insult all who disagree with you?
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
I don’t for one minute believe that they are a republican mouthpiece simply because they disagree with many of the policies of the Obama administration—-I dont either. I think their lack of reporting of anything good that smells of partisanship for me. FOr instance. LAst year this time, we had over 600,000 layoffs PER MONTH. This past month, how many??? If you listen to other news sources you would know. WE went from 600,000 layoffs a month to 12,000 a month last year, clearly indicating that we are coming OUT of the recession. Did you hear those numbers from Fox news? No. If you listen to fox news, you think we’re headed INTO recession and deep depression even though every indicator is that we’re improving. It is the OMMISSION of news and facts shows how partisan Fox is. Fox NEVER reported on democrats having hearings on Predatorial Lending Practices before the meltdown. Why not? Well, then, it would make democrats look smart, on the ball, ahead of the ball and predicting what came down 6 months later. If you only watch Fox, you think democrats had no idea it was coming or was doing anything to stop it. How convienent.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Although I voted for our president, regardless, Fox news organization is entitled to their opinions, as with the other news outlets, also, considering most news channels are pro-Democrat, their views could not prevent the election of republican presidents…people are educated enough when they read propaganda, the media is oblivious, of the street talk…take the issue of the middle east, what the media says and what folks on the street say are not in sync…
Posted by: phantomniter | October 18, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
New headline…
Non kool-aid drinking Americans: Mr. Axelrod’s boss is “not really a world leader.”
Posted by: Mike D. | October 18, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Any intelligent individual can tell Faux News isn’t real news. They spent the entire Bush presidency saying everything he did was perfect and anyone who disagreed with the president was unAmerican, and now they are suddenly saying that disagreeing with the president is the most noble thing a person can do? They have never once had an unbiased report on anything. Anyone who thinks they are unbiased is either a hardcore conservative or blind.
Posted by: Brandon | October 18, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
If you watch carefully, their news is cherry picked to attack this administration at all times. The news itself is embellished with heresay and not news at all. FALSE NEWS NETWORK would be more apt.
Posted by: MacMakay | October 18, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
It is becoming blatantly obvious that you libearls don’t handle dissent very well, and liberals are supposed to be open minded people always willing to consider other points of view. The hypocrisy of your socialist agenda is to just attack all those that don’t agree with you, to go against the first ammendment of our constitution, censure dissent. Being an idiot has nothing to do with party affiliation, it has everything to do with whether you are able to look beyond that affiliation and follow the facts wherever they may lead you to.
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
All these news channels are pushing their own agenda. I switch from one channel to another to see what different shows are reporting. I watched MSNBC Morning Meeting and it was the most bias disgusting show I have ever seen! Fox News is News. Yes, they have a more conservative agenda…but they by far show more of both sides than any other news channel I have watched. They have some very conservative/anti liberal programs that are NOT news shows. Fox News is excellent on covering all sides of issues though. This administration is going after them as “not really news” because they are the only station calling this administration out on serious issues. Axelrod was stumbling all over the place this morning. He went way out of his way not to answer some important questions. It is obvious he was sent to do damage control.
Posted by: Meg | October 18, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Try answering the question. If socialized medicine is so horrible, why have cons not shouted from the rooftops all this time that our troops deserve better? The VA IS socialism. So why are cons OK with our veterans and our troops having socialized medicine? Why do not they not now, or at any time, been so up in arms about socialism before? It’s the evil horror, so why is it good enough for our troops? YOu say becaues private health care is for profit? And it would cost more money? So, we should be trying to save a dime at the expense of our troops? So we, the civilians, are entitled to better than the men and women who defend us?? Protect us civilians from the horros of socialized medicine but who gives a crap if the troops must endure it???? Nevermind the small flaw that mandating health insurance is not socialized medicine. I’m imagining for a moment that cons have a clue what the definition of socialized medicine actually means, and asking why is it acceptable for our troops, but not for them???? I thought they just LOVED the troops so much! THey’ll sport a stupid yellow magnet on their vehicle but then throw you all under the bus when it comes to your health, huh?
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Fox News Is ‘Not Really A News Organization’??
Yeah, right!! Fox is the closest thing America HAS to a real news organization. The likes of ABC News, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, Al Jazera; they’ve all followed the National Enquirer model… no investigation, maximum sensationalism, sell advertising, and entertain (vice inform).
But then again, I’m not surprised that Obama, like Clinton, would try to redefine a term in common usage… like NEWS!!!
Hey, Axelrod, go fly a kite!!! You have 380 days before the INDEPENDENTS in this country send you and yours back to the STONE AGE!!!
Posted by: Laughin_All_The_Way | October 18, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Axelrod is still campaining. NEWS is news. FOX actually reports more news that all the others combined. The others are more of a tabloid. Just look at their headlins. Balloonboy, Megan McCains Chest, Britney farted…bla bla bla…
Posted by: Mike | October 18, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Dunn and Axelrod are both idiots! As a retired Engineering Manager I believe I know stupidity and political BS when I see it! This whole administration with it’s self-righteous Craz’s and not so hidden agendas are a group of self serving socialist lairs. Hopefully the rest of the country will figure it out by November 2010!
Posted by: 312capri | October 18, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
George you are a fair minded reporter with lots of experience, do you subscribe to Mr. Axelrod’s assesment that FOX News is not a news organization? What do you think is the purpose of Mr. Axelrod’s accusation? When Obama was interviewed by O’Reilly during the campaign it was a fair and balanced interview, was it not? It is obvious that Obama has been having a honeymoon with the liberal media for 6 months but over the last three months the truth about Mr. Obama and the rest of his Socialist friends is coming out. Why don’t they just come out and say, we are socialists and we want the United States to become a Socialist country!
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
OK, “Seriously”, your posts clearly demonstrate a total lack of respect for all who disagree with you. Yes, I (white, conservative and leaning to the right) am quite aware Lehman fell; I knew it the day it happened and knew it was coming before it happened. I heard about it on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC and CBS. You are either deaf, blind, or just plain so biased you hear and see only what you want to see. Instead of tuning in a station just so you can mock others, tune in to listen to all viewpoints. It’s what an intelligent, reasonable, unbiased person would do.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
BTW, Axelrod, Fox News has the HIGHEST viewership in the NATION!!
Nice try to redefine REALITY!!
NOT!
Posted by: Laughin_All_The_Way | October 18, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
I thought I would watch “This Week” for a change. A minute after George Stephanopoulos asked David Axelrod the pre-assigned question, “Is President Obama tough enough” and Axelrod began to drone-on with tired rhetoric geared to an eight-grade audience, I ‘clicked’ off the TV set and went on to other endeavors. And they criticize Fox News?
Posted by: Don | October 18, 2009, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
As an independent voter from NY, I listen to and read all the major news outlets on a regular basis, online and on cable and mainstream TV. And I mean EVERYTHING, from the NY Times to The Wall Street Journal, to MSNBC, and Fox – and everything inbetween. It is called being informed…you can’t make intelligent decisions unless you consider all points of view – unless you are a lemming with blinders. Frankly I don’t understand the threat posed by any network – and they all have a bias, one way or the other. The First Amendment of the Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and a free press…if you don’t like a network…use your TV remote and stop slobbering.
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Hey ‘mom’, don’t stop watching any of them. I’m conservative as heck, but I do my darndest to listen to all viewpoints. If we don’t know or undertand the opposing view, how can we speak out against it?
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Aintso said “Fox News never reports anything good that the present government is doing.” Well, it’s a little difficult to report anything good when they haven’t done anything good. Do you want them to make up something?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I don’t see anything untrue about the statement. Fox is a branch of the GOP, always has been. Their views are horribly slanted to the point where it is ridiculous. They pass on slanted GOP favorable stories, that are questionable at best, as if it were gospel. I think they should have to change the name of their broadcast to something like “The Globe” or the National Star… perhaps “The GOP Shill” might be more appropriate.
Posted by: Where's the beef? | October 18, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
heard about it on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC and CBS. —you listened to 5 tv stations that day? I tuned into Fox that day, they never reported it. ABC and NBC did a blip, one or two minutes tops. Only NPR did a long analysis of what it may mean, what hte implication were, and whether or not bush should let it fall and if it would cause a dominoe effect. I turned on Fox that day, and later again that night and they never reported it. Ayers Ayers and obama palling around with terrorists was all they were talking about.
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Dan the Man
You think cnn,msnbc,and the others dont do the same thing, except tilt their stories in the opposite direction, if you think they dont, you need help.
Posted by: plopsdad | October 18, 2009, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
when they haven’t done anything good—-this time last year we had 600,000 layoffs PER MONTH. Now, we have on the order of 12,000 layoffs per month. You rather have it the other way around. but then again, you listen to fox news, so I’m sure you never heard of these numbers, did you?
Posted by: seriously | October 18, 2009, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn’t thinking.
George S. Patton
Posted by: Mr Twister | October 18, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
All you have to do is look at their web page. They have pictures of beautiful women at the bottom and how you can “take a look” at their latest photographs. I’m sorry, is it a new channel or Maxim Magazine?
Posted by: chris carr | October 18, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
This just tells me that BO and his lackeys are running ABC now…..
Posted by: Vet1973 | October 18, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Anyone who is still a liberal by the age of 35 is simply an idiot with no ability to reason and no common sense whatsoever.
This “advertisement” by George and Axelrod is absolutely classic. Anyone who believes one word out of Axelrod’s mouth today is brain dead. Every major media outlet (except for FOX) is in the tank for Obama. The Obama indoctri”nation” movement CANNOT stand that anyone (FOX in this case) actually speaks the truth about them.
The conservatives (i.e. those in line with the Constitution) are waking up…ready to take back our country.
Posted by: Dax | October 18, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
seriously – this administration had nothing to do with the slowing of layoffs – it is part of the natural economic cycle. It would have slowed without any government intervention. Heck – we are exactly on track for what the analysts said would happen if the government did nothing. And I happen to watch all of the news channels to get all sides of the issues – do you?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
FOX news is garbage and I will not waste a penny watching it; not even for the Cartoons. It will be a waste of electricity and makes me want to puke!
Posted by: Otto | October 18, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
To DTH: First and most important, Thank you, thank you for your service. The sacrifices you and your loved ones are making ARE appreciated. I mean that sincerely, deeply and without reservation. Please take care of yourself and your fellow warriors. I pray everynight that all of you will be able to come home soon…well and whole. I currently have 3 family/friends in Iraq, 1 family in Afghanistan and 5 scattered around the globe. Every warrior that falls has earned the highest respect and honor the US can give.
My husband has Tricare due to military retirement now; it’s good insurance. And it provides excellent financial support after Mediare. My brother is disabled due to service in Viet Nam. In our area, he has to obtain healthcare for those medical problems from VA. It’s not the best, but it’s not the worst.
Again, be safe!
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
So what is little Georgie ……. and whose point of view does Georgie, a Democratic operative, push after having his daily private Whitehouse briefing..
Posted by: Vet1973 | October 18, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Nixon tried this stuff in his day!
Posted by: Dennis | October 18, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Seriously: I am a veteran. I was active duty for almost 10 years and I am now serving in the Pennsylvania Air National Guard. After I got off active duty, I went and worked for the Veterans Administration for about nine years, not once did I ever seek treatment at the VA in which I worked at. I preferred to purchase my own healthcare plan through a private organization (Blue Cross/Blue Shield). I am not the only veteran who has chosen not to take part in the VA healthcare. There are thousands of veterans who have never stepped foot inside a VA. So, is the VA healthcare any good? Many veterans think it is and many such as myself do not. But, Seriously – as DTH said, the military/VA healthcare system was set up for those who served our country, and yes it is a “form” of socialized helathcare, but again, it was only set up for those who have served our country.
Posted by: Eric | October 18, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Chairman Mao would be proud of Axelrod
Posted by: turn to Chairman Mao for guidance | October 18, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Yes, I do listen to many news stations a day…forgot NPR. They provide company on my daily commute to work. I can listen to many news stations a day because I do NOT watch trash such as DWTS, American Idol, and other stupidities some people consider entertaining. My apologies to those here that do, but that’s my opinion of them. I also spend most of my lunch hours reading the news on many news web sites such as this one. I am committed to staying as informed, educated and knowledgeable about politics and legislation as I can. My vote is my right and obligation as an American citizen, it is my duty and obligation to make sure my vote represents my views. I believe those statements apply to all voters. We are a great nation; it is the responsiblity of all Americans to keep it that way. Voting based on knowledge instead of emotion and rhetoric is ONE way we each can do that.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Malcat, this debate has run its course, lets talk about something interesting. Do you read Camille Paglia? Paglia writes for Salon. You can link to her through Drudge. She is seriously brilliant and often surprising. I find her independent views on many issues totally refreshing. She is unpredictable, and unafraid to criticize anyone on either side of the aisle. I recommend her to everyone, regardless of their politics.
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Otto how do you know that they have cartoons. Trashing Fox is not smart cause now even the diehard nuts will start watching and see some truth.
Posted by: earl | October 18, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
sieg heil! Yes, Fox is not really a news organization.
And Herr Alexrod is not really an unscrupulous influence peddler from that great Chicago dirtbag tradition that is such a fine model for political virtue. Hey, earth to Dave stick to lining your family’s pockets and pushing your leftist agenda. And most of all keep trying to shut down all dissent while pretending to advance freedom. You and the Chicago cow(s) you rode in on.
Posted by: alejandro | October 18, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Obama’s popularity is in a steep decline and Mr. Axelrod is badmouthing FOX, is he going to blame them for it as well? Obama is still in campaign mode, he spends most of the time raising funds for 2012 and in the celebrity circuit, but when it comes to substance what has he accomplished, the SNL Skit is right on the money, nothing, zero, nada, jack and squat. Obama spend more time attacking FOX, and all of those that disgree with his Socialist agenda than doing anything constructive. Obama said he was going to transcend race, have a bipartisan and transparent administration and get rid of corruption, has he done any of it, no it is worse now than it has ever been.
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
I mean, I recommend Paglia to everyone I know who is able to process what she says, IE, the intellectual people that I know. Your concise writing tells me you are one of those intelligent people!!!!!!!!
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Fox is anything but fair and balanced. I wouldn’t even participate with them, at all, in any way. When I want news, I goto NPR or BBC first, then ABC.
Posted by: Benjamin | October 18, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
My God! What do these libs want? Is it not enough that ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, NYTs, WaPo, LA TIMEs, etc. are in 100% lock-step with this administration? Are they looking for complete control of the media by the government the way China, Venezuela, and other Communist countries that they admire have?
Is it really so bad to have one news organization that is willing to hold Obama’s feet to the fire and approach his socialist policies with a skeptical eye?
What good are the media if they are not asking the hard probing questions and providing opposing viewpoints to what the government is saying?
Will the libs be calling ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, NYTs, WaPo, LA TIMEs, etc. “fake” news organizations the next time we have a Republican President and they start questioning & criticizing that administration? What hypocrites!
Posted by: Dan In SC | October 18, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
There is no attempt to censor Fox News, just to recognize it for what it is, a propaganda machine inducing fear in gullible people in support of the Republican Party agenda, often against their own self interest.
Posted by: ahumbleopinion | October 18, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
no NDMOMx2, I haven’t read her writings. I will try to do so. I try to stick with news shows versus commentary. I prefer to read facts and then make my own decisions..most of the time. For instance, I don’t spend a lot of time watching Hannity, Beck, Chris Wallace and so forth.
I once accidently flipped to FOX when Rush was on; broke a fingernail changing channels.
I never listen to those analysis things media do after the President speaks. They ALL are biased. I heard what the President says; I do not want to hear some talking head tell me what he ‘really’ said. I’m just that way.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
It is quite surprising that President Obama’s administration has the time to critic a television network. I don’t watch Fox because their news is blatantly slanted (unlike MSNBC) whose news is mostly slanted. However, what Fox news puts out is none of the concern of the White House, they should expect criticism from the news media whether it be true or not. I can’t believe they are so thin skinned. I know that the president had a love affair with the news media, but for the most part its now over and he had better get used to it.
Posted by: Mary Dawn | October 18, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Benjamin, your viewing is way too narrow, if for no other reason than you ought to inform yourself on how the opposition thinks. Take off the blinders and listen to everyone. You don’t have to agree with them, but at least know how your fellow Americans think. And respect that they can have an differing point of view. It is called democracy!
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Last Sunday, October 11, on CNN during a station break on John King’s “State of the Union” program, a “promo” for Anderson Cooper 360 stated, “keeping right-wingers accountable” — I couldn’t believe it until I played it back. I have not seen the ad since that time, but I don’t watch much of CNN.
I use this as an example of the hypocrisy in the various “news” channels and the White House in particular. Dunn’s remark that Fox is not news and has its own political agenda, “unlike CNN” — some major pandering from the WH.
News programming generally has become offensive in the “dumbing down” — but it is MSNBC that leads the pack with offensive anchors, reporting and unconscionable attacks.
I agree with Geo. H.W. Bush, they (Rachel and Keith) are “sick puppies.”
Posted by: pcafe | October 18, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Fox news: it’s not news, it’s a lot of people yelling and screaming and sounding like hysterics. In my more innocent days, I thought it was just a couple of the commentators. I know better now so my opinion of Fox has not changed. I look to other media outlets for a more balanced view of the news.
Posted by: JGR | October 18, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
deanbob – It is childlish and immature, but it has a purpose … to shut down the opposition. Our First Ammendment is under attack, this Administration does not tolerate dissent. Most freedom loving Americans see Mr. Axelrod for what he is a hypocrite and a liar just like his boss.
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Thanks for the compliment, NDMOMx2. I try to use what brains God gave me.
Can I ask a question: without revealing any personal info you don’t want to, but what does you ‘name’ mean? I like it!
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Malcat, try Palia, she is a professor who is continually listed as one of the 100 intellectuals on the planet today, both in the US and Great Britain – for what those lists are worth. But she is seriously brilliant. I listen to anyone who doesn’t yell at me over the airwaves. I also have low tolerance for the pseud-intellectuals who talk down to the viewers…like Keith and Rachael…I listen, but they TURN ME OFF!
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
I wonder why he doesn’t complain about MSNBC pushing a point of view. Probably because it’s Obama’s point of view that’s being pushed.
Stop whining, you losers. This is a distraction from your failure of you super-brilliant “stimulus” pork bill to fix the economy, you inability to prosecute an effective wartime strategy in Afghanistan and your failure to convince the American electorate that a government takeover of health care is in their best interest.
Get back to work, you crybabies.
Posted by: Good Lt. | October 18, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
28 Soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan this month, while Obama campaigns in san Francisco, dances with JLO and mark Anthony at the White House and goes to Texas A&M for a seminar on Community Service with George H. Bush at his library. Genearl McChrystal reqquested troops two months ago and Obama is still sitting on it. Is this what we can expect from our Commander in Chief?
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Yes, you may ask what my name means, my children went to a little school in South Bend, Indiana. We’re a Notre Dame family…with some Ivy League thrown in.
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
This WH only wants the liberal point of view. So be it. Most of us know what is going on and we don’t waste out time watching NBC, CBS, ABC or others of their ilk. We listen to Rush!
Posted by: DrGrantDFW | October 18, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
to JGR: There are many different “shows” on the air on many channels where talking heads scream and yell. Those are commentaries, not news. Fox News broadcasts are news. You may not agree with the stories they cover, but it’s news. As are news broadcasts by other stations. They also pick and choose the stories they want to cover. ALL media is biased!! We haven’t had unbiased news in this country for many years. That’s why I listen to them all, research, and make my decisions using my brains instead of letting someone else (liberal or conservative) tell me what to think or believe.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Fox News blows away this network and others week-in, week-out. How does Axelrod explain this? Rush Limbaugh blows away the radio competition, day-in, day-out. How does Axelrod explain this? Conservative books often hold the top 10 NY Times book list week-in, week-out. How does Axelrod explain this. Sarah Palin’s book is a bestseller on Amazon and Barnes & Noble, and is in Amazon’s top 100 bestseller list. Curious, since the book hasn’t been released yet (November 17th). How does Axelrod explain this?
This President and his ideology is an aberration to this country…a very costly mistake that needs to be swept away quickly at the next election. Axelrod attempts to demonize and marginalize the above people I mentioned, including those millions who agree with them. He and his ideologues can’t escape the truth that a majority of Americans reject their ideas.
Doesn’t this Administration have anything else better to do than to pick a fight with one news network? It is this pettiness that convinces me we have a team of boy scouts running this country. It’s both pathetic and dangerous.
Posted by: Pete Freans | October 18, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Terrence ODay – You are 100% correct about one thing! FOX has the sexiest and smartest anchors, they are much more sexier and much more smarter than all of the other news media organization combined, and they are by far the fairest and most balanced news group, that is why they have exceed all others in their viewership. Too bad for Obama and Axelrod that they have decided to stay away from FOX, I guess they are afraid to face the music!
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Look at Murdoch’s long history of using his media properties to infuence governments…the Australian Labor Party, Britian’s Tony Blair, and his infamous conversion to being an “American” so he could own U.S. broadcast licenses. He had to push the Republican agenda to get the FCC to approve it. What we have with FOX proves the danger in allowing non citizens to own U.S. media. Leni Riefenstahl would feel right at home at FOX.
Posted by: Bob | October 18, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Yes, all of the news organizations push a “point of view”. It just so happens that ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN all push the same point of view as the Obama administration. Let’s see – Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, etc…..all have the same point of view as the President. Fox just doesn’t happen to have the same “point of view” as the administration.
It’s SO obvious that they want to silence their opponents and create a “warfare” between the ideologies so that the American public doesn’t know what’s really going on. And it’s a sign of desperation. Really classy on the part of our government to use taxpayer dollars to target independent media.
Posted by: MLM411 | October 18, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Thanks for the name explanation. Another Notre Dame fan, huh? My neighbor is rabid for her alma mater. I sent her an email expressing condolences for their football loss yesterday.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Axelrod this old played out thug tactics trying to discredit someone who opposes your views is tiresome and just doesnt work. Nobody is litening to you that has any education. See most people are tired of these antics and it actully works against you. So the bigger question is are you trying to discredit them because the administration was unable to monitor the big bonuses the bank executives are receiving after they were bailed out by tax payer monies? Or how about not being transparent with the health care bill or maybe Obamas promise not to raise taxes on anyone making under 200,000 dollars or the inability to maske a decision in Afganistan or maybe the 10% unemployment rate or maybe the 1.4 trillion dollar deficit? My god I just started to name a few things that this administration has failed to address this quiote scarry. Nevermind Axelrod keep trying to discredit people because I just realized we are in worse shape than I thought!
Posted by: james | October 18, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
–I listen, but they TURN ME OFF!—My medicinal support of choice is Tylenol. I hate to be “yelled” at also, whether the volume is high or low.
God bless you along with America and all who dwell within. Lunch calls me.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
“Fox News blows away this network and others week-in, week-out. How does Axelrod explain this? Rush Limbaugh blows away the radio competition, day-in, day-out. How does Axelrod explain this? Conservative books often hold the top 10 NY Times book list week-in, week-out. How does Axelrod explain this. Sarah Palin’s book is a bestseller on Amazon and Barnes & Noble, and is in Amazon’s top 100 bestseller list. Curious, since the book hasn’t been released yet (November 17th). How does Axelrod explain this?”……… Oh here, let me explain this. Jerry Springer seems to still have a show, correct? There is no shortage of idiots in this country. Frankly I think ALL NEWS is messed up. I just happen to get that Fox is about the worst. You guys that lap up Fox would remain O.K. if you’d knock off ONLY watching Fox. That’s where the problem is.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Fox news is taken straight from the template of the former USSR propoganda news programs. I am glad they are being exposed. Too bad there are Americans who are too brainwashed already to get it.
Posted by: Keith | October 18, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Malcat, you know we were all tuned in yesterday..it is a family affair. Even the in-law is a Triple Domer. Well, the odds makers were wrong on the point spread, and the Irish made it a roller coaster ride in the fourth quarter. But surely your neighbor didn’t think the Irish would beat Southern Cal? Speaking of names, do you have a bad cat? LOL!
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Some lib wrote:
“Fox news is taken straight from the template of the former USSR propoganda news programs. I am glad they are being exposed. Too bad there are Americans who are too brainwashed already to get it.”
I almost fell out my seat laughing when I read this. Are you kidding me???? In the USSR, the media did not DARE ask hard questions or criticize the government. To do so would have landed them in prison. Fox is the ONLY news organization in this country asking the hard questions and offering critical analysis of this administration.
Stop drinking the kool-aid. If there’s a Pravda in this country, its all the other news outlets except for Fox news.
Posted by: Dan In SC | October 18, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Everyone should watch Fox occasionally to get a different perspective. But those who believe that Fox is the only one to be “telling it like it is” and the only one “to really be giving Americans the scoop” is delusional -> you have surrendered your brain to Rupert Murdoch -> he owns you, you no longer think for yourself. And the beauty of it all is that he is so skilled with the spin that he makes people think that if they watch Fox, they’re the “true independents.”
Posted by: Reality Check | October 18, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Fox News makes me laugh its one of the funniest all dayers on the box.
Posted by: Jem | October 18, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“There are many different “shows” on the air on many channels where talking heads scream and yell. Those are commentaries, not news. Fox News broadcasts are news. You may not agree with the stories they cover, but it’s news.”………. I’ve noticed something over on Fox. Beck or Hannity will choose the days talking point. Say, “Obama has a secret czar government.” Maybe they’ll choose the latest czar to go after. Then what does Fox “news” run all day? Any story they can to give creedence to this. A wad of which is bogus trumped up nothing. Do this enough 24/7 and you can have people believing anything. The next day you have it on see if you can spot the theme.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
WOW, the pot calling the kettle black. The White House and ABC are in together, and they have the gall to talka bout Fox. Bottom line is that if you aren’t chanting “Yea Obama” you are in their crosshairs!!!
Shame on you Axelrod, if people want to listen to Fox they can, and if they want to listen to ABC they should. Deal with the real problem of job and growth in this country and stop whining!
Posted by: Sue | October 18, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
ncpilot10, 11% of Americans thought Richard B Cheney was doing a great job even up to the bitter end of the disaster that was the Bush/Cheney administration. So to use a stat that says that 11% of Americans cite Fox as their news organization of choice tells a critical thinker NOTHING except perhaps confirms how thoroughly duped 11% of Americans are. Pull up your plane before it stalls…
Posted by: Reality Check | October 18, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Fox News prints/states the Facts about Obama’s dirty little regime, and they (Obama’s clan of fascists) starts calling them names? Oh-boy, way to pathetic.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
This White House administration wants a government run news agency so that the American people will only hear what they want us to hear.
Posted by: d | October 18, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
If Fox News wasn’t such a major player in the news media world – the White House and others wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, they are a major player and they’re getting stronger and stronger by the day. The White House better lay off. Bush had to put up with nonsense from all the liberal media, Obama only has to put up with FOX who refuses to bow. However, it drives the liberals crazy because they actually do have Democrats on and they argue back and forth all the time about both sides of the issues. That’s what American’s want – not media stations rooting for anyone who agrees with the owners.
Posted by: Michelle49 | October 18, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
“I almost fell out my seat laughing when I read this. Are you kidding me???? In the USSR, the media did not DARE ask hard questions or criticize the government. To do so would have landed them in prison. Fox is the ONLY news organization in this country asking the hard questions and offering critical analysis of this administration. “………. Key words – “This administration.” See, this one is all evil. That last one was perfect. An example might be “when in the WORLD did “feel good” war reporting become a trend?” Why, when it was Bush’s war. Over on Fox they ran fluff pieces about how we built a school.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
This is not about left vs right, or republicans vs dems. Fox News is a propaganda arm of republicans. They lie and distort reality. Conservatism is about lying to promote the profit interests of big corporations.
Posted by: Poggy | October 18, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
OMG FOX NEWS opinion shows sheds light on the real agenda of the White House. How awful is that for the country? MSNC and CNN are ‘real news outlets’?That is laughable. I think the first item of this administration is to get rid of media that upholds the public interest and not the interest of the White House. I believe that is how China, Iran, Cuba, Russia, and Chavez operates. Can we not go there? Let all media live or die by how many people watch or read them. Can the Obama Administration really stand up for America out in the world if they are afraid of FOX NEWS?
Posted by: rnews2u | October 18, 2009, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Fox is garbage- plain and simple. Even a 5 year old kid knows that.
Posted by: louis4louis | October 18, 2009, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Actually Obama’s fools shouldn’t even try to trash National Enquirer…since even they have more accurate than Obama’s typical propaganda sites like MSNBC and even ABC. Who was it again that broke from the kool-aid crowd and first released the story of John Edwards and his hanky panky? Oh yeah, the National Enquirer. There was a time that I would laugh at anyone claiming the NE was actually news, but given what Obama’s site pass off as news, even the NE is more worthy of news title than they.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Go Fox News!! The fact is that when you are taking on fire like Fox is now …. you are directly over your target! Nice job. Fox is the only true journalism of all cable networks. The rest are in bed with Progressive Dems. The truth will have sunshine on it! God Blessed America and will continue to do so!
Posted by: FoundingFathers | October 18, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Glenn Beck unleashed on Mao loving Dunn (Obama’s girl) who earlier in the week declared war on Fox. Glenn Beck has since been making fun of Dunn and her love affair with the mass murderer Mao and her comments of war. Beck even put up a direct line to his station for Obama’s administration particularily the fool DUNN (who is the only one with the number to this particular line) to call him IF ANYTHING BECK SAYS IS ANY WAY INACCURATE about the corrupt administration known as Obama. Of course, they can’t call because Beck has been dead on…but this leaves Obama/axelrod/dunn in a very bad situation…..Obama must now toss Dunn under the bus since her love affair with all Mao has come to light, but what an embarrassment for Obama so now Axelrod and I am sure others will slowly be put in to take over for Dunn.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Now that Obama has won the Nobel Peace prize lets give Axelrod the Joseph Goebbels award for propaganda.
Posted by: jeffersonian1 | October 18, 2009, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
So when does this White House pull a Hugo Chavez and take over all the news media? We have a Dictator in the making and we can thank all those that voted for this corrupt Illinois politician in into office! All the other news media is already in his pocket!
Posted by: stoltz61 | October 18, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
WH continues to utilize Alynski methods. I can’t wait for the 2010 elections to neuter these idiots.
Posted by: Mark | October 18, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Every network has hard news shows and opinion shows. While I’ve heard blatant cheerleading for Obama on NBC, ABC and CBS hard news shows, I’ve never heard any cheerleading for either Bush or Obama on Fox’s hard news. As far as the opinion shows, they’re just like the op-ed pages in the newspapers…opinions. Apparently, the White House doesn’t like some of the opinions expressed on Fox. If they’re upset because some disagree with them, they’re wasting a lot of time being upset.
Posted by: MizFW | October 18, 2009, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
That dadblamed FOX News!!!
It’s no wonder Anita Dunn, and the rest of the Obama Administration hates FOX.
They must really be a thorn in their sides…(LOL).
I guess they hate it, that FOX tells us the truth, and they are worried that the people might actually listen to what is REALLY going on in Washington.
Well, we ARE listening, and come 2010…they will find out how much we ARE listening!
Posted by: asialee | October 18, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
What is the White House scared of FOX news? I mean BUSH never did this to NBC despite the trashing from MSNBC. Isn’t Chavez doing something like this, too? I would think some alarm bells should be going off in those who support the 1st Amendment. Why is it the executive branch of the government’s job to attack the media for doing it’s job.
Posted by: Texan2112 | October 18, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
So true so true, perhaps you and other bots should go back to school. Fox’s defination of socialized medicine is dead on while yours like most things of Obama’s is wrong or flat out dishonest. Columbia online defination of socialized medicine: so·cial·ized medicine (ssh-lzd) KEY
NOUN:
A government-regulated system for providing health care for all by means of subsidies derived from taxation.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Seems like this is a warning to Fox…you’d better get in line with the other networks and only report favorable administration news! Can a government takeover of Fox be far off?
Posted by: Zeke | October 18, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Bob1001, did you just attack the WSJ….or god, as an investor, I can tell the WsJ is the tops for news both in and out of business…..they have also been in the news of late for overtaking other lesser Obama friendly non-news sources to become the leader in their field for news and subscriptions.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Chris | Oct 18, 2009 10:45:54 AM you said….Fox News hammers the Government for their bad decisions be it GOP run or Dem run…………. Your comment simply isn’t serious – on election night, the FoxNews roundtable was a public wake – only the Greek choir bemoaning the loss of its soulmates Palin and (less so) McCain was missing.
Posted by: Robin | October 18, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
“Of course, they can’t call because Beck has been dead on…but this leaves Obama/axelrod/dunn in a very bad situation”………. Dude. This is the most ridiculous nonsense to ever come down the pike. Yeah, that Beck has a phone and is daring the President to phone him. And yet it works. Here you people write about how he’s got the President where he wants him. You guys are so eaten up with this ridiculous nonsense you scare me the most of anything going on lately. It’s like you’ve lost all reason.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Fox news viewers demand a certain point of view and Murdoch who was up front when he launched his news admitted that… by saying he was going to represent the conservative point of view because he believed that the other news channels were giving the liberal point of view. To Fox viewers and Murdoch, “liberal” is anything that they don’t want to hear …Fox obliges their viewers with trash that they want to hear, making it impossible to separate news facts from news opinion. It’s pathetic!
Posted by: sosupernova | October 18, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Webster’s New Twentieth Century Dictionary-FASCISM: A system of government characterized by one -party dictatorship : forcible suppression of the opposition ( unions, other, especially leftist, parties, minority groups, etc.) The retention of private ownership under centralized governmental control, BELLIGERENT NATIONALISM AND RACISM, GLORIFICATION OF WAR, ETC. ALSO KNOWN AS THE EXTREME RIGHT WING, CORPORATISM, TOTALITARIANISM, POLICE STATE, PLUTOCRACY, OLIGARCHY.
FOX NEWS is FASCIST NEWS; the official propaganda outlet for war-mongers, huge concentrated transnational corporations, banksters, and all the resource strippers and polluters and of course all the nutters who imagine themselves remotely even Christ-like. A church house on every corner, and yet human behavior still no less barbaric than our earliest ancestors. A simple trade of game-kill and club for oil and a bomb. What has changed?
Posted by: George Orwell | October 18, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Axelrod please stop using these played out attacks on someone who disagrees with you. We are all aware of these tactics and they just dont work anymore. These tactics usually demonstrate something you are trying to hide or discredit. So what are you and the White House trying to discredit? Maybe the transparency promise where we now have a few hiding behind closed doors writing a health care bill? Or maybe allowing the public to view it 72 hours before it is voted on? Or maybe the reconciliation approval? Or maybe the banks our tax dollars went to bail them out and their still getting multi million dollar bonuses. Or maybe 10% unemployment and the fact the half the stimulus money created 30,000 jobs at a cost of $500,000 per job of tax payers money or maybe the 1.4 trillion dollar deficit that will burden generations to come to pay it back? Or maybe the inability to make a decision in Afganistan? Geez I better quit now before I really get depressed!
Posted by: tammy | October 18, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Of course the WH has a vested interest (getting their message out and yes debating those who don’t like their proposals), Frank | Oct 18, 2009 11:04:18 AM. Murdoch and Ayres and their entertainers O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck have a different, vested interest: turning our nation into a huge reality TV game show with lots of evil left-wing bogeymen to boo and hiss: it’s a fine American tradition, and it’s called exploiting the dreams, frustrations and fears of susceptible souls to make money, lots and lots of money.
Posted by: Robin | October 18, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Seriously, geez go back to school….Freddie and Fannie guaranteeing bad loan risks (thus inducing orginators and lenders which could be defined as a foreseeable MORAL HAZARD) which in turned encourage bad loans. Was it the only reason? No, but it was one of the major ones. It along with the Housing queen Barney Franks little law forcing banks and lenders to have a GOOD COMMUNITY SCORE really screwed us all. You see the housing queen and Obama’s best bud ACORN had a legalized criminal racket going with the Home lending. Ghettos and other other bad risk areas were were forced upon banks if a bank ever wanted a COMMUNITY SCORE good enough to grow or expand…the only way a bank could avoid these forced loans to druggies and other bad risk was………TO DONATE DIRECTLY TO ACORN according the law. If ACORN didn’t get shown (APPRECIATION) then they COMMUNITY ORGANIZE to extort the bank. Blagovich’s appreciation should be ringing bells when thinking of Obama and ACorn and Barney Franks.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Fox really isnt a News organization? Thats ok, since Obama really isnt a President.
Posted by: Eric the Swede | October 18, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
FauxNews is pathetic, and I automatically lose any respect for anyone who believes anything that is said on Murdoch’s network. I think the “National Enquirer” has more credence as a serious journalistic endeavor. Beck, Hannity and (of course) Bill-O all blatantly push their far-right agenda across as “fair and balanced” reporting, when it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that their agenda is the spread of false propaganda designed to enhance the stature of the right, and to use scare tactics on people in order to discredit the left.
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LOL. Obviously you never watched OReilly. OReilly defends Obama more than anyone else on Fox. I cant stand when he does that, even though I admire him for trying to be neutral. I dont want neutral, I want his opinion. And try to discredit the left?? Thats not hard to do. Look at all the BS you Liberals are doing out there, ruining this country. And then you wonder why jobs are going overseas, and our economy is tanking. Your agenda is whats killing this country…too much spending, too many taxes, and no leadership. You are quite pathetic.
Posted by: AjentOranje | October 18, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Axelrod would be a great media advisor to Putin.The guy has absolutely no sense of the sanctity of a free media.
Posted by: Jabli Izvesti | October 18, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
What the White House means is that Fox is the only NEWS source not in the hip pocket of the Liberal witchhunters. They are all about freedom of speech unless someone dares be smarter and more realistic than they are. Hilarious! You go, Fox News! We depend upon you for the truth.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Fox is NO DIFFERENT than CNN, MSNBC, and all the other “new” outlets. Unbiased news reporting died back in the 1960s.
Posted by: Chip | October 18, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Where’s the beef?, before you babble on with claims that Fox news is a branch of the GOP, perhaps you should research work on growing a brain muscle since if you watch Fox news programs take shots at both parties. Glenn Beck is a LIbertarian btw.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
So, what does Axelrod think about, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, NBC? They are also presenting their points of view – a liberal one. It seems to me Mr. Axelrod is suffering from an extreme case of double standards where liberal views are welcomed with open arms; conservative views, we’ll give those commentators a swift kick in the pants, since they don’t tow our liberal line. Hypocrisy!
Posted by: Amanda Mosierski | October 18, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Hooloo – Again, seek knowledge, Fannie and Freddy didn’t do it: Federal Reserve Board data shows that:
More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.
Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.
Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that’s being lambasted by conservative critics.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
I find it hard to believe that anyone can watch Fox(Faux)
news and HOESTLY say they see no bias. Or that all the other news outlets have a “liberal” bias. Come ON! Everyone not completely blinded by their own bias knows that Fox spouts a right-wing line. Every story (and they select particular stories that support their editorial slant and ignore others) is reported from a pro-Rep./anti-Dem. perspective. I suspect those who see a liberal bias in other outlets are just so used to the blatent bias on Fox they perceive unbiased, neutral jouralism as “liberal”, since it lacks the “conservative” commentary they consider “fair and unbiased.” No accident that Fox was the only news on at Rep. headquarters during the election…it is not news, it is commentary aimed at reinforcing the beliefs of viewers.
Posted by: raven | October 18, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Liberals crying about Fox news is music to my ears… Please keep crying Liberals… PLEASE!
Posted by: Mike | October 18, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Otto said “FOX news is garbage and I will not waste a penny watching it; not even for the Cartoons”
Hey Otto – FoxNews doesn’t show cartoons. You obviously have never watched it, so how can you say it makes you puke?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Mr. Axlerod’s answer is to be expected. How else would the administration explain why they are not allowing interviews with FOX NEWS. The administration does not like it when Fox News provides opposing view points. Therefore they will continue to shun Fox News. In the end I believe this to be a mistake on the part of the administration.
Posted by: Lara | October 18, 2009, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“Fox is NO DIFFERENT than CNN, MSNBC, and all the other “new” outlets. Unbiased news reporting died back in the 1960.”…… Disagree. Fox is almost 100% pro repubican. The others lean left.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Well now atleast Obama can start getting away with his very tired old card of it’s Bush’s fault for his failings. Now, he can say it is Fox’s fault that he is abysmal failure.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Fox News could learn a thing or 2 from ABC news about what real news is. Stories about the top 5 celebrity slobs, for example which is posted on your home page today. That’s News!
If the WH keeps this up, it is like to invoke rebellion from young idealists who regard free speech more valuable than the disdain for Fox News that has been cultivated by the liberal media and education complex.
Posted by: California Serf | October 18, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Secondlook, first off, I am dudette–not dude. Secondly, Obama is a fascist pig blaming Beck and Fox for Obama’s shortcomings is really pathetic.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“Fox is NO DIFFERENT than CNN, MSNBC, and all the other “new” outlets. Unbiased news reporting died back in the 1960.”…… Disagree. Fox is almost 100% pro repubican. The others lean left.”————————- Secondlook, that is putting it mildly. They do more than “lean.” At least one network tells the Libs to pound sand instead of toeing their line and daring to think for themselves. I don’t bother watching the drivel on all the other Leftist networks; it is a waste of time.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Third secondlook, If Fox/Beck said anything not true—–Obama would be able to call Beck and say it isn’t true—but they can’t because you and I and everyone else knows all the nasty very bad things Beck and the others are saying about the fascist pig Obama is very very true.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Reality Check Time:
Fox News maxs out at about 4 million viewers. Dana Carvey’s 1996 cancelled-after-eight-episodes-because-ratings-sucked show averaged 9.4 million viewers. Fox’s importance is only in their own heads.
Posted by: keller | October 18, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
ells I totally get that. My point is there’s a HUGE difference. One “leans” a way – the other is absolute propaganda that is ALWAYS pro republican. I can’t think of the last time I saw anything but pro-republican on Fox. I frankly think our press is a mess in general and it needs to be addressed. This goes for all of them.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Raven, how can you watch all the Liberal networks and not see their transparent agenda? They are garbage. At least Fox News GETS IT. As people really get smarter and more experienced, they get more Conservative. Liberals are strangely naive for a group that claims to be “enlightened”. It is hilarious, watching their Bozo antics, but sad for our country.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
talkhoo you’re killing me. NO PRESIDENT is going to acknowledge some stupid ranting talk show fool by picking up the phone to argue with them. The fact you think they should makes me crack up. What? Since Beck dared that President he should be phoning? It’s absurd. He doesn’t owe Beck anything. Now, be a good Beck supporter and go study up on that Commie art on the Rockerfeller center. Maybe buy some kleenex for the pansy man that cries entirely too much. I can’t believe so many of you buy into his nonsense. And BTW, half of his junk is spin and he’s playing you to make money.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
WHY HAVE THEIR NUMBERS INCREASED SO DRAMATICALLY? As Glen beck said when real journalists want to start asking the questions that he asks he will go away. it wont happen the liberal media loves their liberal president and they are all in the tank for each other. Fox asks the questions the others dont or won’t. They report stories the others wouldn’t dare. The mainstream media died last year.The liberal goverbment is all about freedom of speech until some one disagrees with their view point and then it’s time to marginalize and destroy. Change we can believe!
Posted by: fmi200 | October 18, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Look how skewed the view of many FOX “News” Channel viewers are, they think a real news network like CNN is liberal. It’s only liberal in the fact that it it actually is fair and balanced. Thanks to the warped view of the world that FOX provides, many viewer can’t tell the truth, if it slapped them in the face. In addition, just because MSNBC is really a liberal mouth piece it doesn’t change the fact that FOX “NEWS” isn’t full of half truths.
I can honestly say I include a regular diet of all the the “news” networks, including MSNBC and FOX news. And while I’m listening I put on my critical thinking hat on and actually analyze what I’m hearing. If everyone did that there’d be no issue. The great danger of FOX “NEWS” is that it has an enormous audience of people who don’t think about what they are hearing enough to see that a good amount of what FOX “NEWS” is spewing doesn’t add up. It’s easy to get angry, It’s easy to be scared, It’s hard to sit back and think your way through the garbage.
Finally, I’m in the US Army and we are not liberal, we are not conservatives we are Americans. The Military is full of a bunch of people, with many different views of life. Don’t lump us into one point of view.
Posted by: Steve | October 18, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Secondlook,who do you think you talking too? Freddie and Fannie BUY UP packaged loans that originators and mortgage lenders gather up and sell to them. In otherwords, Freddie and Fannie job isn’t to ORGINATE THE ORIGINAL LOAN most often—it was used to buy up packaged loans to supposedly free up cash for more loans, but it provided orginal lenders and orginators a way to UNLOAD loans made to bad risks so the orginal lender and orginators didn’t have to worry about the credit worthiness of bad loans long term. BTW, the ceo’s of both companies Johnson and Raines are corrupt little piggies and buds with Obama. Remember Obama had to toss them under bus pre-election after their actions became more apparent. Up till that point, Obama was referring to them as his money counselors. GAG!!!
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Anita Dunn is just ticked because Fox blew the lid off the fact that she stated in a commencement address that she admires Mao Tse Tung as one of her favorite political philosophers.
Posted by: Bob Webb | October 18, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Brian, the fact that “you don’t bother to watch the drivel on the left networks” is exactly the problem. If you limit yourself that much to “tailored news” you’ll get unbalanced. It’s so easy to spot an “only” Fox watcher it’s unreal. They all repeat the same things. I know conservatives that get what that network is.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
of course she thought ND would win; she thinks they could beat Heaven’s angels!
My name is based on 2 things. The ‘mal’ is the first part of a nickname given to me by, of all people, an FBI agent. I used to do fraud investigations for a private company holding a Medicare contract and had a reputation for ‘bulldog determination’ to find all the facts. Me being female, he didn’t what to reference ‘dog’ in any way so he named me ‘malicious’. The second part (cat) is because I adore cats. My co-workers put the 2 together and voila…malcat.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
The Obama Administration’s definition of a “news” organization is a group that deliberately speads ideas, facts, or or allegations to further the Obama administration’s cause. For the record, that’s the real life definition of a “propaganda” organization. If you doubt me, check Merriam Webster’s Collegiate dictionary, (11th Edition) under the definition of “propaganda”.
“News” is defined as “a report of current events” or “previously unknown information.” Fox does both, and therefore qualifies under both definitions. Just because the events or information reported do not jive with your world view does not disqualify it from being defined as “news”.
Posted by: MNResident | October 18, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Keller, you wish. Fox does have a lot of influence; they are depended upon to escape the Liberal dogma everyone else belches constantly. 1996? Get real! That is worse than stale information. Do you really think a show with 9.4 million viewers or even 4 million would get cancelled today in this fragmented and oversaturated environment? Fox does just fine, and will continue doing better. They wipe up the floor with those blatant Democratic lapdogs MSNBC and Critic-In-Chief Keith Olberman!!
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Second, if Obama thinks Beck isn’t factual—why doesnt he sue for slander or libel then instead of declaring war on a news station? Because he can’t—what Beck says is truthful which why Obama’s little Brown shirts can’t attack the messages and are instead trying to smear Fox News and lay the groud work for censorship (or should I say trying to censor since the Fairness doctrine scam of theirs.) Obama is a fascist, moron, crook and he just can’t stand this thing called free speech and a news station that dares report the news not Obama propaganda.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
One could just as easily argue that this “president” is not a real president. Not in the true meaning of the word as he does not represent the nation, but rather his own agenda and ego which more often than not put American interests at the bottom of the list.
Posted by: California Serf | October 18, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Well talkhoo, if you must know I think I’m talking to another completely uneducated Foxbot. Fannie and Freddie don’t lend money, to minorities or anyone else. They purchase loans from the private lenders who actually underwrite the loans…….. Not that this will work, but let me try: THE MORTGAGE MARKET went nuts and started lending to anybody and everybody, and this was NOT just the fault of Fannie and Freddie. Reins needs to be canned, and I’d speculate about 95% of all congressmen are corrupt. This goes for your little party of virtue over there as well. Now, go Google Abramoff and study up on the ugly on your side. He was a bud of Bush Co.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
So much for a “new age in politics” thats unless you call the new age, more of the same.
Posted by: Adam | October 18, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
“This is not about left vs right, or republicans vs dems. Fox News is a propaganda arm of republicans. They lie and distort reality. Conservatism is about lying to promote the profit interests of big corporations.”—–And when did you conduct personal interviews with every conservative in the US? That is the only way your statement could have validity. If Fox News IS the ‘propaganda arm of the Republicans’, then what does that make stations who carry Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and other blatant liberal commentators? The correct answer would: ‘the propaganda arm of the Democrats’. Didn’t want you to strain your brain too much.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I think the obama orgaization is afraid because of Glenn Beck. Since he has been on, they have been firing shots at fox because he has reported on the multiple aids in Obama’s office that have openly admitted they are communists or praise communist idols.
Posted by: Adam | October 18, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I read this study a while back about “partisan” people. The ones really into a party or ideology. They did this study and proved that they can take in facts, mull them, and spit out the ones that don’t support their ideology. It’s easy to see this study would be correct. I do not understand what’s happening in my country. I’m pretty sure the majority is moderate, yet you extremes are going to be the death of us.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Just one thing.I like foxnews and am greatful that they hold the presidency accountible for their actions.Who knows what would be going on behind close doors if fox didn’t investigate.I don’t see any other news channels holding this “change” accountible.I personally don’t think it’s change we need,but rather a step back in time when my grandparents told me things were so much better.(before the 60′s)I also personally believe the only reason Obama is pres is because it was the COOL thing to do amongst this college hip-hop crazed generation.So Mr.Pres…You can thank mostly the politicial iliterate for that seat you sit in.I’m pretty sure YOU won’t be sitting there in 2012.
Posted by: brian | October 18, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Why is the WH afraid of FOX news?
Posted by: CW | October 18, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Secondlook, first off I corrected you on your claims of Freddie and Fannie not being responsible—secondly I specifically said they weren’t the only reason in the same post—Don’t try spinning nonsense now about your orginal statements. Secondly, before you ramble off about what you know nothing about again…such as the recent claim of yours about me being in the party of vitue which I assume you mean republicans, try to think. I am a LIBERTARIAN (HATE oBAMA, but I am not overly fond of any republicans either although compared to the demmies the republicans look downright mild in comparison as of late.)
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
It’s laughable that those on the Left don’t see any liberal bias in the reporting on their staples (NBC, CBS, ABC, etc.). They have to hear the other side of the story from Fox news to realize how much they’ve been brainwashed by the all-Obama, all-the-time networks. If we’re a nation of Obama worshippers, why is it that Fox is the most watched cable network news? People just need to get the rest of the story and they know they’re not going to get it from the bimbos on CNBC, MSN, ABC, CBS, etc.
Posted by: s | October 18, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
AGREE !! FoXNEWS is like TMZ , A bunch of right party HACKS with circus OPINIONS, The scary part is’ there is people out there who is not very BRIGHT that thinks its actual NEWS and believe everything that they say.
fair and balance to me is putting the cameras on the politicians and feeding it back to us the viewers’ and NOT injecting a SINGLE OPINION ….. Thats our JOB, I know thats NOT FLASHY… but thats how NEWS is suppose to be.
Outside of that.. they are NO different from TABLOID SHOW .thats why the Whitehouse needs to shut them out.
Posted by: chris | October 18, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
BTW, second—I love Beck’s show, but hate O’reilly.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Hello SecondLook. I agree with your comments: “Frankly I think ALL NEWS is messed up. I just happen to get that Fox is about the worst. You guys that lap up Fox would remain O.K. if you’d knock off ONLY watching Fox. That’s where the problem is.”—But let’s be fair. There are people who ONLY watch liberal news/commentaries. Yes, people who want to be informed must realize that all media is biased. All media picks and chooses what they want to cover. We should listen to all sides and then use our brains to decide what to believe instead of letting someone else tell us.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
C’mon Axelrod.tell us something we don’t already know.
Posted by: Robin | October 18, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
malcat – I’d agree that ANYBODY doing tailored is foolish. It’s dangerous for us all. I’m a centrist. I watch it all and somehow manage to annoy both parties half the time. I’m just more inclined to take up for the Obama administration currently because republicans are just so absurd lately that they seem to bring this out in me. I believe they’ve raised the bar on dumb and mean. I’m going to give the man a bit more time here, like I did Bush. Axelrod would have come across better had he addressed ALL of the issues with the press, and not just gone partisan with his gripe. I think they need to break it back up for one thing.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
While eating lunch I tuned into Fox News to listen to a debate about health insurance reform. The debaters included a Republican and Democratic member of Congress. The monitor had some trouble reining both of them in because, being politicians they love to hear themselves talk, but did a pretty good job. I enjoyed it, learned a thing or two before they moved on to another subject. I turned it off to engage in a lively discussion with my hubby who is Democrat. He’ leans toward the ‘co-op’ concept.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Another reason he’s part of the Fox viewership is that he needs a perspective he’ll never get from the Left. The Left has us in an illegal war!!!! Remember: George Bush’s “illegal” war in Iraq. Obama has us in it but now there’s not so much talk about the prez. having us in an illegal war. Where’s the outrage from the left? Short memories!
Posted by: s | October 18, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
The people who believe Fox News is a creditable news organization also believe that the National Enquirer is a real newspaper. Neither of them feel a need to put real facts in their “news.” While the Enquirer features the Bat Boy and aliens, Fox News runs birther stories and the junk about “Obamacare will kill grandma.” They’re all crazy over there.
Posted by: Kevin | October 18, 2009, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Hey George, I think you should wear a donkey pin in your profile photo. Let’s stop beating around the bush.
Posted by: Henry | October 18, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Hey s – You don’t quite understand how inheriting a problem is not the same as starting the problem? Same with the economy. Healthcare will probably be the problem Obama leaves.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Come on, People, Axelrod is right after every “news” program shown on the Fox News Network there is a caveat “the OPINIONS EXPRESSED here do not represent..blah.blah…” and I don’t have a problem with that Murdoch and his sort have the right to express whatever they want, yet the Fox Channel is not the only ones…this opinion based programming began I think in CNN with crossfire, so Axelrod should also call them out also.
Posted by: Johana | October 18, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Wake up people….. Fox news has always been like this…… And this is not the first time people have said something like this about them. Don’t let them fool you. Open your eyes and see the truth. I use to always watch Fox news but then I realized that they weren’t really reporting things as they were, but were putting they’re own angle on things. Believe me there was a time I loved Fox news.
Posted by: Wake up | October 18, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
I find it hard to believe that anyone can watch Fox(Faux)
news and HOESTLY say they see no bias. Or that all the other news outlets have a “liberal” bias. Come ON! Everyone not completely blinded by their own bias knows that Fox spouts a right-wing line. Every story (and they select particular stories that support their editorial slant and ignore others) is reported from a pro-Rep./anti-Dem. perspective. I suspect those who see a liberal bias in other outlets are just so used to the blatent bias on Fox they perceive unbiased, neutral jouralism as “liberal”, since it lacks the “conservative” commentary they consider “fair and unbiased.” No accident that Fox was the only news on at Rep. headquarters during the election…it is not news, it is commentary aimed at reinforcing the beliefs of viewers.”—-I can’t honestly say there is no bias. There is. I am not blinded by prejudice. I watch all news channels everyday (with the rare exception of course). They are ALL biased. Let me repeat: They are ALL biased. If you cannot see that, then I think you are the one biased and blinded. You see Fox as evil and all others as balenced. Yep, you are just as blinded by your prejudice as SOME of Fox viewers.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
“You see Fox as evil and all others as balenced. Yep, you are just as blinded by your prejudice as SOME of Fox viewers.”….. Well said there malcat.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
crafty like a fox. Only idiots believe it is news. I hugely glad to see someone say what it is. Join me a never watch Fox again!
Posted by: hildebrandt | October 18, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Steve: Finally, I’m in the US Army and we are not liberal, we are not conservatives we are Americans. The Military is full of a bunch of people, with many different views of life. Don’t lump us into one point of view.—-
First and most important, thank you for your service. You are appreciated. I’m not being sicky sweet; I mean it.
And thank you also for stating the obvious that so many people can’t see: the military, like every other group consists of individuals. Not EVERYONE has to share the same opinion even if they might be part of a group. What a hideous world that would be.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
If Fox is not a really a news organization, then why does the Obama Admin even mention it? If something is irrelevant, then you don’t ‘declare war’ on it. Therefore, the Obama/Emanuel/Axelrod White House must feel threatened. One thing they cannot have is dissent in the news; it must all go according to their agenda. CNN, ABC, and MSNBC have drunk the kool-aid on that.
Posted by: Bill | October 18, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
SecondLook, you wrote: “It’s easy to see this study would be correct. I do not understand what’s happening in my country. I’m pretty sure the majority is moderate, yet you extremes are going to be the death of us.”—
I know we disagree on many things, but on this post you state my thoughts exactly.
Look at some of these posts here. The hatred, the spitefulness, the gross arrogance and stupidity. “We have to be right and anyone who disagrees is vile, evil and stupid!” (Not and exact quote but a summation.)
I too am concerned about the US. We have all got to get a grip or we are doomed.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Fox News is 10% news and 90% commentary. It’s an entertainment network more than most other “news” networks. All the other news networks are not free of criticism, however. But let’s face it. News is not exactly entertaining. Reporting the pure dry facts can put people to sleep. At least Fox News network puts some drama into theor shows. Just don’t take them any more seriously then your average hollyweird TV show.
Posted by: Wayne | October 18, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
It is rather hilarious listening to the bots whine that Fox watchers are brain washed—–when obviously we Fox Watchers who are overhere at the Obama proganda cite ABC obviously tend to gather our information from several sources listening to both sides. The bots and their closed little minds couldn’t handle the truth.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I think the WH is making a big mistake going after Foxnews like this.
I’ll admit Murdoch makes money off of sleeze and there is a fair amount of sleeze on the Foxnews website, but this is also true of all the other major news outlets as well.. They are all doing it.
The fact that he didn’t point to any of the others that are very favorable toward the WH ruins his credibility… sounds political. If it really was about fairness in the news then he should also point to outlets like MSNBC & which is know by many as the Obama network which is owned by GE, a major contributor to the Dem. party. Bias in the media is a reality, so going to different outlets, some that lean left some that lean right, & getting the different angles (eg. quotes or bits of info.) on the story that other articles may leave out gives a better sense of things. Also there are things that Fox reports on that others don’t and vice versa. I think getting rid of the 1 more conservative leaning major cable news network is a dangerous thing as it will take away balance in the news world.. If they are all on the same page then no one will point it out when they do something wrong. It’s like having a 1 party system… very dangerous & the WH is just playing into the criticism/notion that they want to control everything.
Posted by: jk | October 18, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
The only reason I watch Fox News is because the other agencies are very biased in how they report things. Fox News is no different in that it has it’s biases in the other direction. The fact that the WH is trying to control freedom of speech in Obama’s first term makes me very concerned about the next 3 to 7 years and it’s impact on the freedoms we enjoy and that other people flock to the states for. ABC must be thinking that they better not critic Obama are they’ll be labeled the same thing. Wake up people, this type of attack on personal points of view is historically a bad omen.
Posted by: An American | October 18, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Johana: Are you actually saying that any on-air person of Fox News cheered when Chicago lost the Olympics? Really?
I didn’t see any cheering. I did hear some objecting to President Obama spending personal time on that instead of dealing with the very real and serious problems troubling the country as a whole.
I did hear some state that Chicago simply was not financially capable of preparing for the Olympics.
I did hear some say Chicago shouldn’t host that type of event because of its problems with high crime.
I heard all of that on Fox….
and CNN….and MSNBC.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I have to go work on an article I contracted to write (yup, I am a freelancer), but let me say this Malcat….it is a pleasure to read what you write. You are a quick study in gifted intelligence…you absorb data from many sources, think analytically and express your views concisely and intelligently….wish more of my friends and relatives had that kind of brain. Fortunately my immediate family does. BTW, my mother was a Republican, my father was a Democrat…they didn’t raise us with blinders to mindlessly follow one party path. In retrospect, I respect them for this, God rest their souls. I have no patience with polarized morons. Adios, I look forward to finding you on future comment boards.
Posted by: NDMOMx2 | October 18, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
I’ll admit that my two main news networks are ABC and FOX. I like to watch both because I can get both sides of the issues that way. The generally liberal side from ABC and the generally conservative side from FOX. Personally, I would like to see someone come up with a network that is truly fair and balanced.
Posted by: Kemuel | October 18, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Axelrod dont you think you should be concentrating on other issues like the 1.4 trillion dollar deficit or the lack of transparency demonstrated with this administration with the closed door health care legislation being written or the failure to allow the public to view the bill before it is voted on or the inability to control the bank ceo’s getting million dollar bonuses after receiving our tax payers money to bail them out. Or maybe the 10% unemployment rate or maybe half the stimulus money was able to produce 30,000 jobs costing tax payers 500,000 per job. Or maybe making a decision on the Afganistan war or maybe even the promise that was made that no one making over 250,000 will not be taxed. With a list like this I can understand why he wants to divert the attention onto FOX.
Posted by: randall | October 18, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Thank you America! Isn’t it great that people can think for themselves, and not have the White House telling them what news to watch of what to eat, when to buy health insurance, and when not too. OPPOSITION IS A GREAT THING! TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE. The White House cannot take criticism. They can’t stand it. And typical policians that they are, they easily point their finger at their opposition and simply state that it isn’t real. If you want to talk about POOR standards in journalism, take a look at CBS, ABC, AND NBC. WHen you compare FOX News to these networks that put a constant “spin” on the news, Fox doesn’t look so bad. And that’s probably why their growing constantly, while the main stream media outlets are loosing viewers. I admire opposition if its genuine! Fox is genuine.
Posted by: Litzen16 | October 18, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
I am going to have say that ALL OF THE SITES that haven’t reported about Obama’s Dunn LOVE AFFAIR with MAO are without a doubt the non-news sites.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Adios, I look forward to finding you on future comment boards.—
Same to you. It’s always a pleasure to ‘meet’ people able to debate issues with honesty, candor and civility whether I agree with them or not.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Fox does not “decide” the news (spin) loohead.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I’m as unbiased as youll find anywhere and was in the media over 40 years. I find FOX news (not opinion shows) to be much more fair and unbiased that any other news outlet. I think if you have a idealogical bias then FOX news will not please you. If you’re middle of the road politically..then FOX news will be your choice.
Posted by: Chuck D. | October 18, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Lets hear the examples you fraud! As always, leftists “fair and balanced reporting” is the resolute enemy of leftist democrats, who need the lapdog media to prop them up every day with vast lies of omission. But how come we never hear specific accusations when these claims are made? Where are the facts? At the same time, the government media left has forgotten to cover John Edwards love child and felony investigation! What does his cancer surviving wife think of his actions? How’s that piece coming along kids? FOX NEWS IS THE NUMBER ONE NEWS STATION IN AMERICA FOR GOOD REASON!!
Posted by: shepard148 | October 18, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
FOX Noise is a sick joke on its listeners and the world. Murdoch even admitted, after the Iraq war was becoming a disaster that he was not reporting the issues as news but as a sales pitch for the war.
And their motto is “Fair and Balanced News”. Rubbish! They are conning people and playing on their partisanship and disappointment and make a mockery of the truth at every turn. Murdoch is a rabble rouser.
Posted by: Honestly | October 18, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Second, I ddn’t say Fox decided the news….I simply apply logic and a scientifical way of testing which sites are non-news and news sites. Simple—just go back and research which ones reported what should normally be called news. Dunn being loved with Mao is certainly news in that this communist is certainly a threat to all Americans. So the test question stands—-who has reported the news? Just one source—Fox. Therefore, science would dictate that those stations not reporting the news should be consider the non-news sites.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
At the time of biggest economic meltdown in US and word, what was the biggest “news” in Fox News? It was all Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright from morning to night.
Posted by: Alex | October 18, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Even if Axelrod was right – you are listening to somebody that is part of the Chicago machine. The Obamas, Rahm, Axelrod, and the others are NOT the ones to be telling ANYBODY who is and who is not honest. If it was not for Fox, we’d still be thinking that ACORN was an honorable organization and that Van Jones was not a Communist. Obama does not like dissent, get used to it.
Posted by: Bill | October 18, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Of course Second, you would have be logical to follow along with a scientifical test for telling which news sites aren’t really news sites.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Hysterical!!!!! The unbelievable Audacity of Total Hype!!!!! Obama is a walking example of electing a teleprompter as Commander In Chief. He is a waffling clueless part time professor, full-time self promoter who has no clue as to economics, war, or peace…
And every other network has hired former Democrat officials as their anchors!!!! Incredible hypocrisy and people, we are headed for a civil war, driven by the neo fascists of the American left.
Posted by: ObamaTard | October 18, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
“At the time of biggest economic meltdown in US and word, what was the biggest “news” in Fox News? It was all Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright from morning to night.”
Perhaps Fox felt that the possibility that the President of the US ‘might’ be a racist and/or anti-American was worthy of reporting. The actions of such a person would be a far greater threat to the US than an economic meltdown. An extremist with those beliefs in the office of president could destroy the very foundation of our country.
Maybe, that’s fine for you….not for me along with the huge majority of fellow Americans.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Let’s try this again loo. Beck does NOT call the news. BTW, has it ever crossed your mind that if all they have over there is “guilt by association” or “McCarthyism” there might be a problem?
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Axelrod. If anyone knows about making money then I suggest it is you. The difference between you and the rest of us is that we live within the rules that govern us whilist you and others like you, use the government as a cash cow.
Posted by: david | October 18, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Lemme see… what percent of the news market does ABC have?? What percent does Fox News have? Gee, is there any “hidden” motive whatsoever to run this story???
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ABC News needs to set its sights on attainable goals. Like “Can they beat the National Enquirer????”
Posted by: Laughin____All_The_Way | October 18, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
FOX News is like most network news… Slanted factual information. AT LEAST FOX has the guts to go one on one with the opposition and ask for facts. Unlike CNN repeating unsubstantiated statements about RUSH like they were fact then throwing out a HALF hearted apology after the damage was done.
Who blew up the truck to try and prove their point? Was that NBC? And how about the anchors with their chuckles and sly remarks like they actually know something someone else doesnt. Who was it that didnt know about the ACORN news story? Oh yeah ABC’s main Anchor Charlie Gibson.
The shear arrogance and lack of actual fact checking have made the news media a laughing stock.
CNN reporting what Sadam wanted because they wanted to stay in Baghdad. WOW who remembers that fact!
AND the fact they are acting like complete LAP DOGS for President Bush and now Obama shows how much they lack integrity.
Posted by: ChicagoBob | October 18, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Axel Rod’s idea of a news network is anyone that doesn’t ask questions about what he is doing. He wants the Lap Dogs in the general media because they are CHEAP and EASY to take advantage of. American FOOLS!
Posted by: ChicagoBob | October 18, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
When Bush was in office and spoke on national T.V., all channels had a Democratic rebuttal immediately following his speech. When Obama gives speeches, the ONLY channel that allows rebuttal is FOX.
At least we hear BOTH sides from FOX.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | October 18, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Amen. The circus Fox “News”??? has made of American political discussions is an embarassing spectacle finally >>>>> Really it was better when we all sat down and SHUT up and take it up the behind like FOOLS. The lack of discussion is what is desired. The lack of the light of truth is whats wanted. WHO is RAMMING DOWN legislation without 72 hours for people to READ??? DOH American FOOLS!
Posted by: ChicagoBob | October 18, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
secondlook – MSNBC and CNN are also full of propoganda. You have to watch all of them & pick through the propoganda. You can’t pretend that MSNBC & CNN aren’t as biased as Fox.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
I’m a liberal Democrat, but I am wary of anything that Axelrod does. He has a history of dropping “unattributed” news stories in media outlets that smear campaign opponents and favors his own client. He is a master manipulator, and is known for this here in Chicago.
Posted by: SEP | October 18, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
I think fox has too celebrity news but it is definitely a news organization. To say that it is not is purely asinine. Consider that if it was purely political and Republican why would there be any celebrity news? I mean come on, January Jones on GQ? How does that attack the Obama agenda? Balloon boy hoax? I was sick of that on Thursday and it won’t go away on Fox or CNN…
Posted by: Crawford | October 18, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Sounds like the White House is trying to censor Fox news. I hope the American people realize this and don’t drink the “kool-aid”
Posted by: Deb | October 18, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
George you got your daily call from Rhambo and went with it. ROFL ABC lap dogs.
Posted by: ChicagoBob | October 18, 2009, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Anything short of State run media (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and PBS) would be viewed by this WH and its left wing extremist supporters as non-news.
Posted by: TJ | October 18, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Check it out folks WHO Rhambo calls in the AM? George you are on that short list aren’t you? ROFL ABC getting s shiver up their legs because they might loose to FOX news.
Posted by: ChicagoBob | October 18, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Taking it a step further, Obama and his ilk are not really an Administration, they just have convinced a few people they are credible. The vicious, hypocritical baloney slicing coming out of this White House is pretty scary.
Posted by: Banderman | October 18, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
MORE SLANDER from the White House. YAWN whats new? First its DOCTORS doing bad things. Then its insurance companies. Those CRAZY Nazi Astro Turf protesters…
Now its Fox News. More SLANDER being spewed by the White House. Nothing new to see here move on.
Posted by: ChicagoBob | October 18, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Ells – This is the third time I’ve said this today. The left is biased. Fox is almost 100% propaganda though, and out of the league. All press needs work as it’s all a mess.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Secondlook, if you can honestly say that Keith Olberman merely “leans” and is not blatant, you are not as smart as I took you for initially. He is more blatantly partisan than anything on Fox. Have you ever watched Bill O’Reilly? He takes special pains to present both sides, but he doesn’t allow the spin and Liberal or any other extremist talking points the other networks use as staples. Yes Fox leans right; thank God at least one source does; the others are in the tank for the Libs, everybody knows that.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Washington is trying everything to stop the truth from getting out. This is what the new social order is going to impose on the news and anyone else that does not agree with Obama. FOX News should change their name to Radio Free America.
Posted by: Albert Friday | October 18, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
You have at least one NEWS source, Fox, that at least goes against the popular flow of Demo dogma. Thank God. Criticism from the likes of this Bozo Dunn and the geniuses bashing Fox on this board are actually a very good sign that they are doing something right! You go Fox News…..
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Not ironic and unseemly at all that George, a former senior Dem advisor for Clinton and best friends with Rahm and Carville, gives time for Axlerod to defame Fox news? Fox is one of the few news outlets not kissing Obama’s rear daily and doing the Lewinsky at his beckon call with starry eyes. I’m so sickened by how biased the alphabet news is toward’s Obama. And no I didn’t vote Repub in the last election in case you wanted to know. Many Independents are so sick of both parties and the leftist media we can puke!
Posted by: freemort | October 18, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Chris is griping about people “who is not very bright” watching Fox. Good job, Chris. Do you use Ebonics in every conversation? Figures…
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
They read the book more than once.. If someone disagrees with you then single them out and make sure you attack them.. Fox is the only network that isn’t in the tank for this guy… Sooooo they are marked.. Linsky 101…
Posted by: Bill | October 18, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Brian – Olberman and O’Reilly don’t really have dogs in this fight. Neither one is news. They are both political commentary shows. The only reason Beck got brought up today was because a Foxbot kept trying to suggest he should call all the shots on what is news now or something. You guys do get that Beck, Hannity, etc. are NOT news? Maybe this is where the problem is.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Actually, it seems to me that Axelrod isn’t a real WH spokesperson. He looks more like a cartoon character than a human being.
Others have said it here, I’ll reiterate… If FOX isn’t a real news source, why is the WH worried about it? This is tantamount to saying they ARE a thron in their side.
Posted by: Nancy | October 18, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Kemuel, your suggestion has a lot of merit. Fox and ABC together are not bad. I would not waste my time with MSNBC. That dimwit Keith Olberman is the most partisan figure on TV. Their pathetic offering is laughable.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Obama doesn’t “have” the other news channel in his “pockets”….they have been critical at times and objective at times…in America WE call that legitimate News. Everyone who has any decency or intelligence has known for years, and VALIDATED this past year….that Faux News is an operative of the GOP, masquarading as though it is “mainstream” media. This is at best the opposition “station” imbedded with person attacks, untruths, spins, opinions and broadcasting other legitimate news casters “news reports” to “fool” the fools that it’s their news. Murdock has made billions on the backs of unsuspecting people that doesn’t know the difference. Much to this year, he has made billions off of ignorance based on fear and hate tactics. What “mainstream” media would employ such “commentators” as Beck and Hannity with O’Reilly make believing he is a serious news person. I remember switching my stations the morning after then candidate Obama quenched the Dem. nomination…and he and his wife exchanged a “youthful fist bump”, and the screaming from one of the bleached-blond, shorten skirted females yelling ” a SECRET CODE, a TERRORIST signal”…..my kids had engaged me with this greeting and approval for at least the last 3 years….my generation would give the ‘high’ five”. Their sole “opinions” were focused on Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. To this day, they are “reporting” that Ayers wrote then Senator Obama’s “Dreams” book. …. but wait they will stage a GOP rally and report on it themselves…misrepresenting the facts of the numbers in attendance. This is clearly an Opposition, GOP geared operation, flying under the FCC radar as “news”. They have it right. And who cares if their ratings go up, there are a lot of their kind out there, and the amount of ignorance in America never cease to amaze me. Maybe they should be the ones with a “mop”…I was shocked to see Chris Wallace, a man I grew up watching as a young girl in this “cesspool”…to me he has lost credibility, or is this what “old” has beens do. Major appears to be an objective reporter and should consider getting out of that “cesspool”….or at least he’s being checked by regular news correspondents without an agenda.
Posted by: sara | October 18, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Secondlook, I was gone for a while, but you did say something during the interim which I definitely agree with: the media in this country is a problem that needs to be fixed. I am not sure how best it would be done, but news sources need to be out of the political pockets of anyone, and need to represent the good of the American people, period. Their job is too important for them to continue to be political hacks.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Sara, your comments and sophomoric name calling “Faux News” is about as partisan and tainted as you claim Fox news is. Where is your credibility in this debate? All emotion. You’re living in a world colored by the Left, many of us lean right. Your bias and prejudice is just as obvious to us as you say ours is to you. Back to square one…
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
And the “All Barack Channel” is news?
Posted by: WhatAJoke | October 18, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Axelrod and Dunn are only backtracking what has previously happened, Dunn overreacted as she usually does and said something very “stupid” and very unprofessional. It shows their frustration in the lime light, Fox news is the only news channel that airs information that has anything remotely negative to the white house, and cnn, abc, and msnbc does not, that is just how it is folks, lets grow up and admit it. we have a Biased, split media in america. It’s just intertaining to me that government officials go on the air and make fools of themselves in front of the nation, and try to backtrack. They are not interested in solving or prioritizing the problems in america, otherwise they wouldn’t really care what the media says about the government.
Posted by: Ty | October 18, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
hey joe, just saw your post: malcat … way to go dude!
It’s dude-ette actually, but thanks all the same.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
No one is afraid…that has nothing to do with anything. It’s being discussed because they’re Not what is represented by them….they are one step above the Jerry Springer show, only with the men in pinstrips…..just take a visual observation of the “reporters” ..spitting, yelling, red with hate….reporters, no matter what emotions that arises from a TRUE story, violent most times, leaves their opinions at the doorstep….why…America is not interested in that reporter’s emotion…we want the NEWS…Just News.
Posted by: sara | October 18, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
“I have this feeling running up my leg” — oh yeah, that was Chris Matthews and MSNBC. Ain’t got a problem with them, do you Axe?
Posted by: Matthew Steilberg | October 18, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Jerry Springer is popular too, may I add.
Posted by: sara | October 18, 2009, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
How come this man is whining so much about Fox? He has an opportunity to speak his mind about his choice of legislative issues and he chooses to whine about Fox. Go home, little boy!
Posted by: wavygravynet | October 18, 2009, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
“Secondlook, I was gone for a while, but you did say something during the interim which I definitely agree with: the media in this country is a problem that needs to be fixed. I am not sure how best it would be done, but news sources need to be out of the political pockets of anyone, and need to represent the good of the American people, period. Their job is too important for them to continue to be political hacks.”……… Absolutely. Same thing goes left here. I was talking to a liberal friend the other day and we both questioned if there weren’t only 5 reporters left. Have you noticed how you can go on all websites and they typically all run the same stories? It’s rather scary. I’m just annoyed with those on the right that can’t see how bad Fox is as they’re the ones yelling the loudest about biased press. Then don’t support your own. Either you’re against it or you’re a hypocrite and you’re only against left leaning. Axelrod would have gotten more respect out of me if he’d included them all. He should have.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
And again Second, why don’t you understand Obama administration of corrupt communists thugs and fascists is NEWS. And even without Beck, all REAL news stations should be reporting about the slime Obama has in…but no they don’t so by the rules of the scientific test–they are the ones that aren’t real news stations. Fox has fulfilled its requirement to be considered a newsstating because they unlike the Obama proganda sites have been and I should say been putting up REAL NEWS…instead of the proganda nonsense.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Fox News is a joke, an out-and-out political propaganda machine. Most of us have known this for some time now, they are the luaghingstock of the news world. Pity that some are so emotionally attached to what they want to hear, and have been strung along for so long, that they don’t see this.
Posted by: iamwomaninMI | October 18, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Second, you won’t need to go to China—obama’s administration madly in love with China’s mass murderer here will bring it here if we continue to allow Obama communist adminstration free reign because the Non-news sites refuse to report real news…hence it being real news to report Obama’s Dunn love affair.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Fox leads in ratings for a reason. CBS, NBC and ABC used to do investigative reporting. Now it’s all slanted liberal. Without Fox we, the people would not have heard Rev Wright’s racist sermons, the ACORN tapes or known how leftist the Czars are. Keep on doing your job Fox! No one else will…
Posted by: Kathy in Pa. | October 18, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I wonder what story or stories that Axelrod thinks are slanted? It looks like if you make an accusation then you would have an example and further it looks like the host would have ask; which one?
Posted by: david | October 18, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
When all is said and done, and the emotion is removed from the “Left vs. Right” debate, there is actually not that much difference between what most of us want. We want the truth, we want our leaders to stand for principles and not opinion polls, we want to remain secure, and we want to be left alone to live our lives and raise our families. If you have to watch two or more news sources in order to sift through partisan rancor and triangulate to where the truth really is, then I guess that is what we will have to do. The only stipulation is that one of them be Fox, because they are the only voice that goes counter to the popular, “toe the line or you don’t graduate from journalism school” current.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Axelrod continues his attack on Fox News because it’s an easy way to rile up Obama’s most devoted supporters as well as divert attention from the things Obama’s doing his base is not so happy about. It sad they don’t seem to be able to tell the difference between Fox’s hard news programs and its news analysis programs. Any analysis program not presenting opposing points of view is a waste of time…you know, like NBC.
Posted by: MizFW | October 18, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Fox has NEVER been about news.
Posted by: Doc Savage | October 18, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Axelrod would have gotten more respect out of me if he’d included them all. He should have.————————— Good point, Secondlook.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Wow Mr. Axlerod, it must surely be damage control time at the WH for you to be getting on board to state that Fox is not a new organization. If they are not a news organization, then what shall I call CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, NYT’s. Boston Globe, International Herald Tribune, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, and a host of others that only report in glowing positive terms what the administration is doing. Since I scan and read all the political writings on HuffPo, RCP, NRO, NPR, The Hill, etc and I work in a foreign country where the people are laughing about the administrations lack of getting anything accomplished. They watch BBC, CNN and Al Jareeza and then ask me what I think. I tell them the truth. It is all politics. They are all amazed that the WH has taken on a news outlet which can influence millions of peoples minds. I guess we will award you the first Joseph Goebbels propaganda prize to be collected in Copenhagen. Dunn likes Mao too much for my taste and for Lloyd to think that Chavez has done a great job I have to wonder about his sanity.
Posted by: Gene44 | October 18, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
It is truely pathetic how people just can’t handle the truth. Fox shows both sides on every issue. I always wonder why are liberals so afraid of people who have other opinions. why are they so desperate to hold onto their beliefs even when they are wrong.
Posted by: jonny | October 18, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
This fued says more about CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC then it does about Fox. The other networks give Pres. Obama favorable coverage. Biased. Without Fox we would not have known about Acorn.
Posted by: Bassman | October 18, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
johnny – Fair and balanced my hoo hoo. “Shows both sides of an issue?” That just means when they have some talking head on about some story they have one on both sides. Many times they’ll have about three republicans and one democrat I might add. The part news can mess with is “what” they choose to report on and what “facts” they put in the article. Or even what they choose not to report on. BTW, while they do this? They constantly run a flag in the corner (so you’ll feel all patriotic to watch) and all lettering is red, white and blue. It’s so propaganda it’s absurd.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
FOX is the only MSM network not blatantly catering to this unfathomably inept administration. No wonder why they are number 1.
And NBC is the worst of the worst. They have by far the strongest agenda out there today, with ABC a close second.
Posted by: SafetyHit | October 18, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Many of you must have slept thru how Fox had a love affair with Bush. All the feel good stories about wars.
Posted by: secondlook | October 18, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Then what is MSNBC? It is as bad, no, worse than FOX at pushing it’s agenda. They all suck anyway. It’s awfully funny that the WH has commented on FOX for a few weeks now. The more you mention it, the more you look like you are afraid of it.
Posted by: Robert | October 18, 2009, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Foxnews is the only real news channel out there! They are the only ones who do real investigating to find out the facts- the others CNN,NBC,ABC& CBS- all believe what Obama and his Chicago gang says and roll over and play dead. Of course Axelrod is going to discredit FOX- because they do not want you to know the TRUTH! WAKE UP AMERICA-stop being so trusting. The people in the WH are out to destroy you!
Posted by: Linda | October 18, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter and the likes are the reason I went from a Regan Republican to a Democrat… as long as the GOP is going to be run by morons I’m out…
and let’s get off Obama’s back the guy is doing a good job under the circumstances…
Posted by: Velvetjones | October 18, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Who is this “George”?
Posted by: Hugh | October 18, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Leftist totalitarians in the White House don’t like criticism and hate free speech.
They would love to just shut all conservative speech down. Especially since conservatives are winning the national debate on Health Care, Cap and Trade and Afghanistan.
Funny how so many leftists love dictators like Castro and Chavez who agree with the White House view on free speech and open debate. They just shut it down.
There are about 100 million people in this country who are of the mind: OVER OUR DEAD BODIES!
Posted by: Parker1227 | October 18, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Damage Control for What???? Oh, I know, “Obama’s SECRET PLAN for SOCIALISM” Now this sh! came from “a news” station. Be for REAL. OOOOO, I’m scared…………….LOL
And by the way again….Jerry Springer made alot of money off of Ignorance, Irrational thinking, Fights, Anger and INCEST… and someone’s sad, sad life.. Who was watching him … he had high ratings…..other sad, anger, violent, ignorant people.
Posted by: sara | October 18, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
FOX is a disgrace to the U.S. and it’s people. If Canadians and English people believe they are most fair, you could not be further brainwashed. They should not be allowed to spew their poison.
Posted by: Tonio | October 18, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Wow!…The White House is really worried about Fox news. Why?
Posted by: CW | October 18, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Terrence,
How do you feel about the Bush administration not allowing the media to film the coffins of dead
solider’s? What about this, the same administration not wanting to turn over official papers to the library of congress? Or outing a CIA operative, wait a minute here’s another one lying to congress to make a declaration of war? I think calling out the farce known as fox is great! When anyone said something from the old regime, no one called for a firing of that person so CHEERS to the WH and I hope they don’t back down!
Posted by: Denisa | October 18, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Seriously, the VA hospitals are not socialized medicine. You are uninformed and deluded. The expenses of war caused disease and injury are a necessary medical expense of having a military. The Veterans Administration cares for those who injuries are borne on behalf of society but should not be a freebie health program for aliens and the improvident who would sooner flee than serve to defend the United States.
Posted by: Crawford | October 18, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I don’t think the Obama’s administration is worried about Faux News, nor any legitimate and credible News organization……believe me, this is the only Prez that has been scutinized over and over……Worried about what…. now, Faux News should be ashamed to have been perpetrating a Fraud for years, and is now been called for what it is…..A GOP operative on national T.V.
Posted by: sara | October 18, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
The WH owns NBC. GE stands to make billions off of health care and cap and tax. Very dirty hands. The alphabet stations will not report or only half report if it makes Obama look bad. They are excellent at repeating though. Many people who bash FOX have never watched. Usually they get hooked like myself, because other news seemed to be just fluff. Many Liberals, Democrats and Independents watch FOX because other networks will not report all the facts. The WH controls other news. I call that propaganda. The WH going on a smear campaign to demonize FOX seems like a slippery slope to end free speech, kind of like the way Chavaz has been successful at. This WH gives me the creeps.
Posted by: novadine | October 18, 2009, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Educated people have known that Fox “news” was a joke a long time ago.
Posted by: Clay | October 18, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Fox news is actuall news organization, obama is actual the fake one.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Best educated people watch Fox news….it is afterall the ONLY STATION ACTUALLY REPORTING NEWS, not just Obama propaganda.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
The other networks had better wake up. Fox today-you tomorrow?
Posted by: Nina | October 18, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
What a bunch of crybabies. Did Bush call out ABC, CBS and NBC because of their slanted reporting? Obama and his Chicago fools are ticked they have a REAL news outlet that is telling all sides of the story. They are upset they don’t rule Major Garret and Chris Wallace like they do George Stephy and Charley Gibson and the rest.
Posted by: Motney | October 18, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Axelrod isn’t telling us anything new. He really speaks from a common sense centrist point of view, and he has the job of getting so much done against so much obstructionist resistance. It must be a maddening job at times.
Posted by: Brian | October 18, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
What about reporters on CNN and MSNBC?
They practically whiz in their pants when they talk about Obama. They are his fan club. You call that good journalism? When John Kerry lost to Bush, they were practically in tears.
These reporters are cheerleaders for the Dems. Fox News is the only one that reports the new accurately. Yes they have conservatives on but they also
have on liberals to express their opinions. Obama’s people are now trying to control the media but they forget their are people out there that believe in freedom of speech.
Posted by: Kathy | October 18, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Hitler declared war, called newssites non-news sites too that spoke out against him. Then worked to have them shut down for telling the truth about him. Funny how history repeats itself and funny how much Obama and his people remind me day after day of Hitler and his people.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
This is just wierd. A PRESIDENT, trying to silence his opposition. I don’t care for watching any network news, they are ALL giving as much opinion as fact. Some do it more subtly than (not a tough task there), often by omission, but they ALL do it. If he’s not trying to silence his opposition, then what? The only other reason I can think of is petty, juvenile and a bit scary. I wonder if it makes other journalists rethink possible negative articles about the admistration or their policies? I personally wonder who will be next? If they are willing to go this route with a large network, bloggers and local news op-eds will be like swatting flies.
Posted by: debs | October 18, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
If you think Fox News is the Right Wing mouthpiece than answer this: What is hell is CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS??? They all slant left except when caught up in something that can’t be denied like the “Lewinsky” incident. Most “Mainstream” newspapers are extremely Left wing — I can’t even remember the last time The Washington Post or The New York Times endorsed ANY republican candidate.
Posted by: Gauston in DC | October 18, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Hey Chavez, and Castro, and Mao too all attacked dissenting news sites as non-news too before shutting them down for speaking out againt their fascist leaders. I see a pattern with these pety communist/marxist dictators that obama wants to be. History repeats itself repeatedly…
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
The leftist & MSNBC,demomized President Bush for 8 years, and continue to do so, and now all eyes and targets are on FOX News. Demonize the the messenger, and never answer the hard questions, The Democrats do it so well. Mr. Obama will never answer the hard questions, he just wants his way. He is surrounded by socialist radicals, Pelosi and Reed could care less if their health care bill ruins the economy of the USA. Why don’t all you so called mainstream media hacks and leftists, look at the possible effects of the the new taxes in the health care bill to the economy. Taxes and expenses always get passed down to the consumers. How bad will this be. They say some $860 billion to fund this thing. Well that is $860 Billion of new taxes that will not be spent by the consumer on other things. Things like clothes, cars, toys, TV’s etc. Jobs will be lost. Could it be that is why no one is hiring right now, because of this health care mess. We are in the worst recession since the Depression, and the Democrats are about to force down Americas throats a huge tax increase. The did that in the Depression raised taxes and things got worse. They want to put a tax on Insurance “Cadillac” Plans. $8,000 and up. Well guess what that is a normal plan that most of America has. it is hardly Cadillac. So Reed & Pelsoi, go ahead and pass this thing and say good bye to your office. Are the Democrats so calis they don’t care, and pass it anyway. They are willing to loose power, but they got their way, and push the country into a depression. Reed & Pelsoi, see you in the unemployment line after your next election. Did either of you read the stimulus bill that is not creating jobs, did you read this either, have you ever read any of the bills you passed. Do what is right solve the problems, but tax us anymore, don’t force things on the american public they don’t want. And stop trying to silence a vocal voice, “FOX News”. We do not live in a communist, or socialist country. Those countries control the media and the message. The USA Government does not. Stop this petty nonsense and creat some real jobs already, and no new taxes……
Posted by: Bill | October 18, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Obama is an actor.
Everytime he speaks, it’s straight
from the acting studio.
It’s sad that some Americans do
not see this.
That’s why Hollywood loves him
Birds of a feather flock together.
Posted by: Serena4141 | October 18, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
(LOL) The truth hurts FOX. What I’m wondering is when is the GOP going to start being required to disclose FOX as a 24 hour political contribution. How much money is all that airtime worth anyway?
Posted by: dan | October 18, 2009, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
What some of you don’t seem to understand is that the difference between Fox and all other news channels is this: a legitimate news channels states the FACTS of a story without injecting any political slant. Fox ALWAYS taints their stories with “opinions” that belong on an op-ed page. The other major news sources are not so obviously partisan in their stories. They don’t skew their stories to promote ANY agenda whether liberal or conservative. Just a statement of what went down and let the viewers decide for themSELVES how they feel about an issue. Fox clearly tries to spoon-feed a viewpoint to their viewers. THAT’S the difference between “news” and opinion-based journalism. Everybody on the planet knows this. If you don’t understand the difference in nuance, you’re probably one that watches Fox believing it’s legitimate, unbiased “reporting”.
Posted by: puppyfeet217 | October 18, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
FOX is a disgrace to the U.S. and it’s people. If Canadians and English people believe they are most fair, you could not be further brainwashed. They should not be allowed to spew their poison.
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Actually Fox News with their conservative bent AND other stations with their liberal bent are wonderful examples of what our Constitution stands for. Remember that little thing about ‘free speech’.
Americans have the right to freely argue their positions. We have the right to disagree with those of different views. Just because one political party is ‘in power’ does not mean those who disagree with one, a few or even all of their policies have to shut up.
You have your opinions and I have mine. Thank God and the Constitution of the United States of America that we can freely express them without fear of that ‘knock on the door’ that other countries need to fear.
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
“The bigger thing is that other news organizations, like yours, ought not to treat them that way, and we’re not going to treat them that way.” Axelrod told ABC.
Really? An Obama hack is now telling the networks how to think and behave??? Our founding fathers would roll over in their grave in disgust at the abdication of the press to the government.
Posted by: Jim | October 18, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
You could lump the Lefts blend of ABCCBSNBCMSNBC and PBS news together and not touch one show on FOXNews. Bash them all you want they clean the LeftNEWS clock. The majority of Americans have voted with their remotes MZ Dunn and Mr Axelrod!
Posted by: Brad Holman | October 18, 2009, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Gee, if Axelrod, Anita Dunn, or BO don’t like Fox News, they can do what other Americans do, change channels.
The WH is getting all “wee weed up” because Fox’s ratings are going through the roof. Fox and followers are NOT bowing down to “Dear Leader” like those who are reporting for and following the alphabet networks.
Posted by: littleleers | October 18, 2009, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Despite the fear of starting another round of raving rants and hostile childishnees, may I propose a new issue that is relevant to this article?
President Obama was elected to be POTUS? I didn’t vote for him; don’t care for mose of his policies. But, he’s the President for the next 4 years (God forbid some raving lunatic does the unthinkable!).
He’s the Prez. Of the whole country. That includes conservatives, Republicans, red states…all of us.
We have a saying in church: “Don’t just speak to the choir.” If I were the President and wanted to gain acceptance for a policy, why would I only want to speak to those who already agree with me.
Now people here are saying that FOX News listeners are all Republicans and conservatives. (I will leave out the insults and filth some of you have used.) Some of you say that Republicans and conservatives are too stupid to listen to other news outlets. According to some of you, Rs and Cs would be a captive audience almost.
So, here’s the question. Why would an intelligent President repeatedly decline to speak to the very people he should be talking to?
Just asking?
Posted by: malcat | October 18, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Fox News is the best. Read the polls.
Posted by: Serena4141 | October 18, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Most people that watch FOX, only watch FOX because as far as they are concerned 99.9 percent of the media is a conspiracy against righteousness. They do it looking for justification for their spitefulness about losing the election. They are looking for ammunition to regurgitate during political discussions in social settings. FOX spins the news into a false reality their viewers want to hear.
Posted by: dan | October 18, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
I am amazed at the Obama admin. and how stupid they make themselves look.
Sooo, let me get this straight. CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC – they are real news because they withhold the truth from America? Axelrod go back to Chicago where your BS is believed.
Posted by: jlpillinois | October 18, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Objective commentary by the President is met by unobjective hyperpartisanship by the right. Fox is not up to the standards of ABC or CNN, or PBS, for example. An objective study was done some years back, and FOX was found to be the most biased news source as compared to other major networks.
Posted by: Charles Carruth | October 18, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Anyone watch MSNBC? Same coin, different side. This administration is starting to sound more and more like a South American dictatorship. But, why should that surprise anyone. They like all the S.A. dictators.
Posted by: pam | October 18, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Axelrod, Rahm, Duncan, Obama hate free speech – they can’t stand it.
Blatant attempt at suppressing free speech. Unbelievable, and these fools honestly believe they are right.
Posted by: jlpillinois | October 18, 2009, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Fox News is the ONLY news network–I am not talking about the opinion shows, but they do allow both sides of the discussion–The Bret Baier Report is the best news program on tv. Watch and you will see.
Axelrod is just upset that there is ONE network that doesn’t worship the ONE–if the other networks and papers had done their job in the first place voters would have known who they were voting for last Nov., instead of having buyers remorse now!! It’s going to get worse, watch and see!!!
Do you honestly think MSNBC is a “real” news network—”Keith”—please!!!
Posted by: ssmith | October 18, 2009, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
the one thing libs dont do is research try it sometime it shows that fox of all the networks is the only true news network keep it up libs its fun to see you fall
Posted by: alan | October 18, 2009, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
This controversy is not about politics. It’s about the American way of airing all viewpoints whether you agree with them or not. MSNBC is no different from FOX. Republicans never targeted Olberman, et al, for the outrageous “news” coming from that network.
Posted by: pam | October 18, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Why is FoxNews so popular? Don’t you think the Obama administration would WANT to go on their shows and rebuff their slanted reporting? I think the administration is AFRAID of Fox news for exposing the Obama administrations lies. Ooops I pulled a Joe Wilson.
Posted by: motney | October 18, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Those of you constantly saying the MSM is in the tank for Obama need to click on the ABC political link and read the headlines again. It doesn’t look all that flattering to me.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Axelrod, Rahm, Dunn, Obama LIE!!
Posted by: jlpillinois | October 18, 2009, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I find it interesting that our media today is not up in arms about the censorship that is going on in this admistratition. I is really scarey how our government want to shut up anyone that does not agree with them. Look at how they are going after the health insurance companies for daring to have an independent study on how this health care reform is going to affect our lives. No one dare contradict this admistration. Fox is the only new orginization that is willing say question our President, because the rest have lost their balls along time ago.
Posted by: Jaye | October 18, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I find it interesting that our media today is not up in arms about the censorship that is going on in this admistratition. I is really scarey how our government want to shut up anyone that does not agree with them. Look at how they are going after the health insurance companies for daring to have an independent study on how this health care reform is going to affect our lives. No one dare contradict this admistration. Fox is the only new orginization that is willing say question our President, because the rest have lost their balls along time ago.
Posted by: Jaye | October 18, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Well, Obama isn’t really much of a president.
Posted by: BJ Butler | October 18, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
“Murdoch has made a fortune pawning trash TV to the American public while decrying the breakdown of civilization. They have made an institution of hypocrisy.
Posted by: indy_voter”
LOL, too true. It’s sad but very true. Remends me of once seeing Fox News and they were going on about Obama and democrats being immoral and “just telling people what they want to here now before they charge them big later”. Then it went to a commercial break where up popped a lady telling me how all my debt worries could be solved if I take out another loan with them.
The utter hypocrisy was so funny I was almost in tears.
Posted by: John | October 18, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Davy, the only reason you and Barky don’t like Fox is because Fox can’t see the Emperor’s new clothes, either.
Posted by: Sharon | October 18, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Only extremists watch faux news.And those that are unable to think for themselves.
Posted by: Fox Lies | October 18, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I must agree with both Indy_voter and Greg on this one.
Posted by: Realist | October 18, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
If Fox News is so wrong all the time, please clearly explain when? They aren’t wrong. They are dead on. AND liberals can’t tolerate it. Liberals can’t stand to be challenged. They attempt to shut down anyone that doesn’t preach the part line. People, this is a dangerous time for America. Fox News is the only news outlet daring to ask questions of the Obama administration. I look forward to the coming revolution.
Posted by: Brad | October 18, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Right wing nut jobs watch fox propaganda.
Posted by: idiots watch fox | October 18, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Tough talk from Obama, I’m sure Foxnews is quaking in it’s boots. When Putin or that guy in Iran is “pushing a point of view” will the Obama administration be equally tough?
Posted by: Betsy | October 18, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Indy_voter, the first poster, sold Murdoch short. It’s not just American journalism that Murdoch corrupted. It’s news media outlets in the entire English speaking world. But, the man knows how to make money. Long ago and well-before Limbaugh and Coulter, he understood that right-wing ideologues, who perceived themselves to have no voice and were susceptible to manipulation, represented a rich vein to be mined with propaganda and demagoguery. After 8 years of cheerleading neo-con abuses of the Constitution, Fox’s cries of censorship are more than a little hypocritical.
Posted by: B. Bear | October 18, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Fox News is #1 in Cable News rating by more than 2 to 1 margin. 57% of homes have cable. It would be interesting to see what Fox would do to the fringe networks if they had access to all TV owners. The White House would come begging.
Posted by: jerry | October 18, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I’ve never seen anything like it. Weakest administration I’ve ever seen in my life. Attacking a news network. How pathetic. Bunch of babies. Sally Obama, Sally Axelrod, Sally Emanuel. Sally Administration. Geez get over it and deal with the real problems. If you don’t like it don’t watch it you bunch of weirdos.
Posted by: Jan | October 18, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
All right thank you fore fathers for the free press. You know what the cool thing on this is Fox is correct on there news reporting more often than the rest of the news organizations. And the truth is upsetting the current administration.
Posted by: aforefreedom | October 18, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
You are exactly right. Just because they are not the suck up liberal likes it makes all their views wrong. Typical of you liberal morons. Why don’t you put yourselves to good use and get to work on that wall that needs to be built? If not take responsibility and support them so I would not have to work so hard to pay taxes and pay my daughter’s medical bills who has had 16 brain surgeries and pay for my insulin pump that cost me $6,400.00? I work so I am denied MEDICAID to pay for it all. If you would do that, my taxes might be decreased making it easier for me to pay our medical bills that exceed $1,000,000.00. Well I guess I will get back to work nursing all my patients who I am forced to give free medical care to and at the same time illegal. What a wonderful life.
Posted by: BAMA FAN | October 18, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
What most of you don’t get is this: it is NOT okay for a supposed “news” channel to try to sway the opinion of viewers. Objective and unbiased reporting is an ethical requirement of journalistic standards. Fox News does NOT abide by that – using news “reporting” as a platform from which to espouse their own agenda which is to not-so-subtly influence the opinions of viewers! It is NOT okay for a ‘news’ channel to hold up two objects, one black and one white and then state “Pssst, white is better”. If they wanted to get expert opinion from BOTH sides, as to the merits of black or white, that’s fine. But Fox doesn’t.
Posted by: puppyfeet217 | October 18, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Fox just does not report the news the way the Obama administration wants it reported. Fox certainly leans right, however most other news leans left. The statement that fox is not a news organization reflects poorly on the Obama administration.
Posted by: Bob | October 18, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
THANK GOODNESS THERE IS FOX NEWS! The rest cnn, msn, abc, cbs are all biased.
Posted by: Anna | October 18, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
The experience of watching Fox News is is more painful than watching Access Hollywood, E True Hollywood Story, or Etertainment Tonight. At least those other shows occasionally entertain.
Posted by: Bwahahaha | October 18, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
And MSNBC is not Obama TV? This is just a petty diversion because They can’t accomplish anything of substance. There are bigger fish to fry for the White House. This only makes them look petty!!
Posted by: Dr342 | October 18, 2009, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
If you don’t like it don’t watch it. Get a hobby or something. Get back out to your lawn chair next to the mailbox.
Posted by: jan | October 18, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Unbelievable that the WH makes statements that NBC and the other news organizations “…ought not to treat Fox news like a legitimate news organization”. I understand clearly that Fox news has a bias when reporting news, but so do the other news outlets. However, the WH has no business telling any new organizations what they should or shouldn’t do.
Posted by: Diego | October 18, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Axelrod,and his Chicago thugs,are going to loose in the long run. These guys will hang themselves on there own. There in over their heads. Chicago politics on a national scale. Keep hiring commies to work with. A Chicago street gang could run the country better. How’s that change working out for you Obama Voters. Bring on 2010/2012. What a laugh these guys are.
Posted by: Rob G. | October 18, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Fox news is only a new organization in name only they care about ratings that is it and they will do anything even if it is unethical to obtain those ratings. So I think it is fair to call them out after all all that really comes out of Fox News is Anti-America this, anti-democroacy that and so on.
Posted by: Nathan | October 18, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
George Axelrod is the master of double-talk. Both he and Dunn are becoming (he, especially) a joke. I record both This week and Fox News Sunday, and I especially applaud Mr. Stephanopoulos asking Axelrod about this, as well as the other hard questions. Did anyone else notice Axelrod stuttering, while attempting to look like he had a clue? He must think we are all a bunch of idiots, and/or blind followers. Keep it going, George. It looks as if you might even see through this comedy…
Posted by: Trey K. | October 18, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
And MSNBC is not Obama TV? This is just a petty diversion because They can’t accomplish anything of substance. There are bigger fish to fry for the White House. This only makes them look petty!!
Posted by: Dr342 | October 18, 2009, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
“I find it interesting that our media today is not up in arms about the censorship that is going on in this admistratition.”………. WHAT CENSORSHIP? That must be right up there with “Obama has taken away our freedoms.” What freedoms? And then you write: “Look at how they are going after the health insurance companies for daring to have an independent study on how this health care reform is going to affect our lives.” O.K. first off do you not get this is the industry not wanting something so they’re going to try to lie about it? You think companies have more virtue than government? And all the administration did was criticze it. They did not “try to censor” the insurance companies. This paranoia is killing me.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Axelrod,and his Chicago thugs,are going to loose in the long run. These guys will hang themselves on there own. There in over their heads. Chicago politics on a national scale. Keep hiring commies to work with. A Chicago street gang could run the country better. How’s that change working out for you Obama Voters. Bring on 2010/2012. What a laugh these guys are.
Posted by: Rob G. | October 18, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Its war then! This should get interesting. I can’t see this ending well for the WH.
Posted by: Robert L | October 18, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
I can’t see it ending well for republicans. Fox is just completely ruining your party over there.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
The only people that are drinking the cool aid are the ones that believe the lies of this administration.
CBS, ABC, and CNN are the most biased state ran media outlets around.
At least with fox news you do not have to look at BBC or Reuters, the independent or foreign media for news that the other three networks refuse to report.
Posted by: merci | October 18, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
FOX NEWS: UNFAIR AND BIASED……
Posted by: Homer | October 18, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
This Administration wants you to shut up and drink their Koolaid just like Jim Jones did and look what happened to his followers.
How soon people forget and how often history repeats itself.
Posted by: merci | October 18, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
It’s clear that they see FOX as a threat. They should challenge them head on. Go on FOX, tell your side. But no, they allow Olbermann & the other guy, Maddow tell the story. This makes them look Pathetic and petty!!
Posted by: WRA342 | October 18, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
They have all the other outlets in their corner, and they still cannot convince the American people or get a single thing accomplished. IM sorry I ever voted for this guy…
Posted by: BBALL | October 18, 2009, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Let’s try this again. Maddow and Olbermann are NOT news. Neither is Beck and O’Reilly. Nobody is dogging on political shows. Well, Beck maybe. Cauz he’s a lying idiot.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Fox News does offer opinions, and frankly, they are entertraining. They are also watching the Obama team pretty closely, which is more than I can detect from any other so-called news outlet. Someone needs to watch Obama closely. I do read other news, for example, I like the GMA website because it offers pretty good receipes. Don’t care much for ABC news coverage, though. Fox News – keep doing what you’re doing. Some needs to shine a light on this bunch.
Posted by: Lee Cobb | October 18, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
secondlook -and this is the third time I’ve said this. You can’t slam Fox for being 100% propoganda and NOT slam MSNBC & CNN for the same thing. Those two are JUST as guilty as Fox.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Actually ….Fox’s market share includes Republicans, Independents, Foreigners, Libertarians, and even some Demmies. Idiots try to smear Fox news when they have facts to back up their statements—Most bots in otherwords.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
talkloohoo – well, see you’re wrong about a whole bunch of things. Educated people gather information to form their opinions from a variety of sources, excluding Fox. And for you to construe Axelrod’s remarks as some kind of attempt to “shut down” a station is ridiculous! He’s doing no such thing. Where did you get the idea that the WH is trying to axe the channel??! You’re drawing some crazed over-the-top conclusions here. He said “They are not news” – how is that an attempt to quash the channel?
Posted by: puppyfeet217 | October 18, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Puppy, for starters—-try the FAIRNESS doctrine of Obama’s and Axelrod. Obama/Axelrod are FASCISTS AND HAVE FOR A LONG TIME BEEN TRYING SILENCE FAIR SPEECH and silence any critics by smears, threats, abusing court systems. They have been working to kill the constitution and find any means possible to shut others up. Really very sad, and much like Chavez, Castro, and Hitler have done.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Must be a reason why FOX is beating every media outlet. It’s clear this White House is why out of touch with the American People. He is a one term president.
Posted by: Sentinal | October 18, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Velvetjones – You allowed tv personalities determine your political affiliation? I’m not going to say what I think about that.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I always thought that mentioning that the left wingers who were supported by CBS..NBC..ABC..CNN…and all the other left wing news organizations should have at least one competitor.
While the left whines about 4600 guys getting killed in Iraq…we complain about 9,600,000 children that were slaughtered in abortion clinics during the same period of time.
Whoa be it…that we mention the lefts Hypocrisy in counting dead troops every day of the week on the Liberal News Media, to bring down a president, without mentioning 9.6 million babies deaths.
When they are digging up dinosaurs in the arctic and antarctic….and looking at fossilzed tyranasaurus tracks in the northern reaches of the Brooks Range in Alaska…And while digging up Dinosaurs near glaciers in Antarctica…..why would we question hacks like Al Gore and his henchmen, on global warming.Being that Antarctica and the Arctic were obviously very warm to begin with…since dinosaurs roamed there…. Why would we want to question whether the planet was ever supposed to have these stupid glaciers to begin with.
Why would you need people like Fox News to ask some pertinent questions.
Only Liberals ideas are really important we assume.
Posted by: Steven Wilson | October 18, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Correction: Actually ..Fox’s market share includes Republicans, Independents, Foreigners, Libertarians, and even some Demmies. Idiots try to smear Fox news when they have NO facts to back up their statements—Most bots in otherwords.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
ells I’m not saying this again. Yes the MSM “leans” left. I’m sorry but FOX is NOTHING but the all republican channel. They’re the worst. And evidently their people don’t understand math either. Because if they think they’re number one it’s because they don’t split the pool three ways.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
puppyfeet- If you think that MSNBC and CNN report facts, then perhaps you had better go back and learn the difference between fact & opinion. No so-called news organization reports facts any more.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
This is petty and Stupid, not a single Champaign Promised has been accomplished!!! Yet they start a war of word with FOX!! What are they doing????
Posted by: Dodger | October 18, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Hey Talkoutmyhoohoo – The following is ALSO bogus spin coming off Fox. Obama is NOT going after the fairness doctrine. “Puppy, for starters—-try the FAIRNESS doctrine of Obama’s and Axelrod.” But you’d know this if ya got your head off the all republican all the time channel.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Second and you would be wrong again, calling Fox the republican channel. For instance, I have Beck bash the hell out of my Senator (my as in from my area, but I that Had figured him out years ago and refused to vote for him last election) Graham who is a republican.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Secondly Second, Beck hates the illegal immigration which both parties have enabled not just allowed which he regularly condemns both corrupt parties.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Again, BECK IS NOT NEWS.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
CBS, CNN NBC and ABC could be compared to the Tehran Times are or North Koreas Naenara new agencies.
All state ran media reporting only what the administrations want them to report.
The stance this administration is taking is foolish at best and destructive to themselves at worst.
Shame on them and shame on all of you for propagating this travesty.
Posted by: merci | October 18, 2009, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I too believe that the Obama Administration fears Fox News. What they do not realize is that all the attention to Fox News leads to more viewers for Fox.
I’m one of them!
Posted by: ewc | October 18, 2009, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
secondlook – MSM doesn’t just LEAN left – they are hard-core left – just like Fox is hard-core right.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 18, 2009, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Never watched FOX or Listened to Rush Limbaugh until I saw what the fuss was about. Im sure Im not the only one…
Posted by: Fox Fox | October 18, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
First step in the nationalization of the press is to silence the opposition. Can somebody please tell me what separates us from Russia or China now? Anybody?
Posted by: Sean Smith | October 18, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Second, going after the Fairness Doctrine? What are you smoking? Obama is tring to have it instated with it requiring successful networks like Fox and Rush to go bankrupt doubling their costs to pay for pro-Obama sites since no most people don’t want to listen to the Obama propaganda sites. Obama is in otherwords trying to force non-minority Obama sites out of business as a way to work around that pesty Constitution that he doesn’t like.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
President Obama opposes any move to bring back the so-called Fairness Doctrine, a spokesman told FOXNews.com Wednesday.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Beck is more news than Georgie Straphaolus here on ABC.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
ells – This is where we can agree to disagree. Yes the press is a mess. Yes it needs to be taken to task. But I remain rooted in that the MSM is a leaner vs. full on propaganda like Fox promotes. Click on ABC’s political and look at the titles on the articles and tell me if it all reads flattering to Obama. Right now. Answer? Nope.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
“As the president stated during the campaign, he does not believe the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated,” White House spokesman Ben LaBolt told FOXNews.com.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Obama lies like a dog too…..He said he was againstreleasing the photos of the Cia interrogators after working so hard to have them released at the expense of the safety of our Cia and military, but then claimed he didn’t. All I can say is he lies like all pathological lying socialopaths.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Dear Mr. Axelrod:
Taking the “White House vs. Fox News” position is beneath the dignity of the United States and its American people.
This unseemly and amateurish tactic will only serve to reinforce poor opinions of this administration.
Perhaps even more damaging, it will likely further contribute to both domestic and international perceptions of inexperience and incompetence within the Obama administration.
Remember:
The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools. -Ecclesiastes 9:17
Posted by: Issachar Berean | October 18, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
In June 2008, Barack Obama’s press secretary wrote that Obama (then a Democratic U.S. Senator from Illinois and candidate for President):
“ Does not support reimposing the Fairness Doctrine on broadcasters … [and] considers this debate to be a distraction from the conversation we should be having about opening up the airwaves and modern communications to as many diverse viewpoints as possible. That is why Sen. Obama supports media-ownership caps, network neutrality, public broadcasting, as well as increasing minority ownership of broadcasting and print outlets
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
From Obama’s Racist Diversity CZAR—”It should be clear by now that my focus here is not freedom of speech or the press. This freedom is all too often an exaggeration. At the very least, blind references to freedom of speech or the press serve as a distraction from the critical examination of other communications policies.
“[T]he purpose of free speech is warped to protect global corporations and block rules that would promote democratic governance.”
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Second, Obama’s administrations actions and comments clearly shows a communist regime hell bent on killing off the constitution (which Obama has himself said he doesn’t like)starting with the right to own guns (something our founders demanded if for no other reason than to put our government back in place once it had become corrupted as founders knew government tend to become) and more spefically the murder of free speech pointing out what the fascist communists are up to.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Fox is just simply a great example of corporate capitalism running amok. They are also the best example of what is wrong with American politics (so divisive that nothing positive can ever be accompluished for the majority of Americans) But the joke will be on them. They behave so ridiculous “in the name of news”, that they are making conservatism a “cult”. And that is why moderates have left the Republican Party in droves – because nobody wants to vote alongside conservatives any more. Fox is simply making money at the Republican Party’s expense.
Posted by: CND FOX | October 18, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
A National Rifle Association advertising campaign distorts Obama’s position on gun control beyond recognition.
The NRA is circulating printed material and running TV ads making unsubstantiated claims that Obama plans to ban use of firearms for home defense, ban possession and manufacture of handguns, close 90 percent of gun shops and ban hunting ammunition.
Much of what the NRA passes off as Obama’s “10 Point Plan to ‘Change’ the Second Amendment” is actually contrary to what he has said throughout his campaign: that he “respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms” and “will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns.”
The NRA, however, simply dismisses Obama’s stated position as “rhetoric” and substitutes its own interpretation of his record as a secret “plan.” Said an NRA spokesman: “We believe our facts.”
Perhaps so, but believing something doesn’t make it so. And we find the NRA has cherry-picked, twisted and misrepresented Obama’s record to come up with a bogus “plan.”
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
I agree, Fox News is not even close to being fair and balanced. They are pushing the rights agenda for sure.
Posted by: Jim Bob | October 18, 2009, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Last week the Governor of Missouri, Matt Blunt, issued a statement on the Obama campaign’s “abusive use of Missouri law enforcement.” What was striking about the allegations Blunt made was the eerie parallel between the Obama camp’s activity and the Organization of the Islamic Conference’s efforts to stifle all criticism of Islam and destroy the freedom of speech — also by means of legal intimidation — at the UN and elsewhere.
Blunt charged that four Missouri state officials along with the leader of Obama’s campaign in Missouri “have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.” In declaring an intent to prosecute those who spread what they considered to be falsehoods about Obama, they were, said Blunt, “abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.”
Such behavior, said Blunt, was “scandalous beyond words.” Obama and his supporters, he said, were trying to “frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.”
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Then there are these other articles regarding Obama’s attempts to kill free speech. WASHINGTON – As popular opposition to the reinstitution of the so-called “Fairness Doctrine” mounts, Barack Obama and the Democrat-dominated Congress will end-run critics with legislation that will curb dissent on talk radio through the imposition of “localism” rules and community watchdog boards across America, charges a new book by a former NBC Westwood One talk-show host.
In “Shut Up, America! The End of Free Speech,” author Brad O’Leary says the plan amounts to the development of party-approved “commissar committees” to censor the kind of lively and free-wheeling debate America has known since the scrapping of the so-called “Fairness Doctrine” by President Reagan’s Federal Communications Commission in 1987.
By demanding radio stations answer to local community watchdog boards to ensure programming is “balanced,” “fair,” “diverse,” “tolerant” and “serving the public interest locally,” O’Leary says the rules and legislation being planned will once again make talk radio accountable to politicians, political activists and bureaucrats at the FCC.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Coming from these crimminals and communist in the White House, I would take that as a compliment. Wow, Fox must really be getting to them. Keep it up and expose these thugs for what they are.
Posted by: Alex Mackie | October 18, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Second and again Obama lies CONSTANTLY. Only an idiot doesn’t know this guy has lied day in and day out. His actions speak louder than his words and sorry hun, but Obama has been trying to kill the gun amendment. Again, the guy has already said he does not like our constituion (what self respecting fascist and communist would like our constitution?)and has worked to kill it.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Didn’t Richard Nixon try to villfy certain news outlets in his time? Does this White House really want to come off sounding like the ghost of Nixon?
Posted by: Tim Walker | October 18, 2009, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Nixon had far more morals than Obama BY FAR.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
I am 50 years old. I can say, without a doubt, that in my lifetime? So far? The worst EVER administration for truth? Bush and Cheney. By far. Nobody can touch them. Say all you want. Keep throwing it hoping it will stick. Just because you say it? It does not make it true. This like the supporters of the biggest liars ever slinging mud. Which means nothing to me. Like pot meet kettle. You guys should know what lying is. Since you supported it so much.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Anyone that does not watch fox news does not know what is going on in this country or the world for that matter.
Fox news rules, you can not silence the ratings no matter how much any of you liberals or this administration tries. LOL
Posted by: merci | October 18, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
January 26, 2010
The commander and chief goes to court to prove he is a legitimate commander and chief.
He can not even prove that and lies about not being born in Kenya.
He spends over a million dollars to keep all his records sealed when he could spend 24.00 on a birth certificate to prove exactly where he was born. Does that make since.
I guess his paternal grandmother is a liar. She swears he was born in Kenya.
Posted by: merci | October 18, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Did I hear Dunn correctly when said Fox news is not a news org. like CNN? That is the best compliment Foxnews could ever receive. CNN and MSNBC are so far up Obama’s ### that every time Obama speaks they break into a news alert. It is one thing to hope for a president to succeed but it is totally another to make an effort to support a President. I say bring it on and let the racist america hating white house..via chicago politics try to win this fight. I guarantee millions of Americans on every street in every town across America will stand up and fight back..Obama should be impeached and Axelrod and Emanuel should be imprisoned. In another year they may be.
Posted by: TruthNMichigan | October 18, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Watching Axelrod today was scary- his body language was that he was pushing his spiel down your throat, and if George tried to get a word in edgewise, he used his hands outstretched to say “shut up until I get finished”. Exactly who does he think he is?
Posted by: virginia | October 18, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Thank you merci, for putting a face on the stupidity of Fox “news.” Even conservatives are knocking that garbage.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Issachar Berean 8:04 PM—I agree 100%
Posted by: adam | October 18, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
love em or leave em. If no one loves them, they will disappear. If they are watched, they will not go away. So, if they have a viewing public, they probably have as much right to the airwaves as anyone else and it the WH doesn’t like it I guess they can get a new czar in place to regulate them.
Posted by: mad dog | October 18, 2009, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
So Secondlook….exactly what does Bush having the worst administration in your lifetime of all of 50 years (that makes you about 16 or 17 when Carter was elected….right?) have to do with Axelrod making a fool of himself this morning? Axelrod did nothing but hurt Obama today.
Posted by: michael b | October 18, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
The last tiem a US President attacked a news organization the way Obama and his administration are doing was guess who? Tricky Dicky …. yse, Republican Richard Nixon going after the New York Times, he actually kept a black list of media organizations he woul attack, how ironic that President Obama 40 years later is doing the same, he and his administration are attacking all media outlets that may get on their way, FOX, and radio talk shows. Anybody that questions or points out the many lies of the administration is attacked or accused of being racists, except this time unlike the 70′s when Nixon was doing it, it is a totalitarian socialist adminitration and the liberal media are just arms of Obama’s propaganda team. The only news organization that presents opposing points of views are FOX News and talk radio and you liberals who are supposed to be so open minded canot take, you just rather destroy all the opposition, this is beginning to look more and more like Castro’s Cuba or Chavez’s Venezuela.
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
if Fox isn’t news, Obama isn’t president.
Posted by: Sally Sue | October 18, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Mr. Stephanopoulus, of all of the reporters that interviewd Oabama the weekend that he refused to talk to Fox News you were the only one that asked any good questions, how does it feel working for ABC News an arm of Obama’s Administartion and the Democrat Socialist Party? Have you considered going to work at FOX or maybe in a talk radio show? You shoul a little soul searching because you sir still have some hope as a journalist, and I do mean it sir with all due respect. If it not were for FOX News Journalism is non-existent in this country.
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN have celebrity newscasters who might as well be on the DNC and White House payroll their bias is so apparent. So, having the White House say to Fox we’re going to pretend you don’t exist and ignore you might be hilarious to democrats watching if this were a SNL skit. Unfortunately, it’s not a SNL skit. The White House is serious … in conceding the Fox vote in the 2010 and 2012 elections on behalf of democrats. I hope all democrats appreciate that.
Posted by: Rob | October 18, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
When I was living in Cuba under Castro’s Regime there was only one source of news and information … it all came from Castro’s Office, he dictated all of the news and all of his agenda, there were no dissenting or opposing views, everyone was to follow his views like zombies, and this is the way it has been for the last 50 years, is this what this nation is coming to with Obama’s Socialist Administration?
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
In my opinion all so called news organizations are biased, because the organizations are comprised of human beings. Reference Genesis 6:5.
Posted by: Phil Tweedy | October 18, 2009, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Anybody can see that the panels on FOX are always one-sided. It’s the GOP-Right Wing network with no attempt to be fair and balanced. Everyone can’t see it because bigotry, if nothing else, is a blinding force.
Posted by: Mike from Carolina | October 18, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
THE NEWS MEDIA BETTER BE VERY CAREFUL AND SHOULD CHALLENGE THE OBAMBA ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE EACH OF THEM WILL BE NEXT. AND ALONG COMES CENSORSHIP.
Posted by: joe | October 18, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Axelrod and the administration don’t like Fox because Fox “calls them out”.
Obama will sit at the table with Chavez but is afraid of Chris Wallace?
Meanwhile Fox’s ratings continue to climb!
Posted by: Ed Taylor | October 18, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Look Guys, it’s like this….either you believe everything the way I do or else you are an idiot. Conservative listen to and hear what they believe to be the truth. Libs hear and believe everything else.
Posted by: mywayorhwy | October 18, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
The First Ammenment of our Constitution is for Freedom of Speech: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech; or the right of people to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Our Government, the Obama Administration is doing everything they can to suppress freedom speech by attacking anyone that disagrees with their socialist agenda, accusing them of being racists, extremists, bigots and the like. It is demeaning for the Office of the President of the United Staes to take such stands taht resmble so much the ones taken by Richard Nixon in the 1970′s. It is a travesty and a disgrace!
Posted by: wizact123 | October 18, 2009, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
When Germany invaded a country it first confiscated weapons then radios, is Obama reversing the order?
Posted by: Ed Taylor | October 18, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Every news channel appears to have an agenda, the question is whether they clearly differentiate the opinion shows from the news shows. To shut up the opposition is exactly what dictatorial regimes do – like Chavez in Vz, Castro in Cuba, K. Jong Il, etc. Please don’t tell me that George Steph is not pro-democrat after working for Clinton. Please don’t tell me that R. Maddow, C. Matthews and K. Olbermann are not over the top Left wingers. The network news anchors time again have given their opinions while supposedly reporting news. This is a desperate response from the Whiner in Chief and his Chicago lackeys.
Posted by: Chris | October 18, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
GIVE ME a Break… Do you people really buy all the garbage on MSNBC? It is by far the most biased, factless and slanted news network ever. They are by far worse than Fox in the slant they put on their news.
Posted by: phoneman | October 18, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
After reviewing these blogs on Axelrod’s statement reagarding FOX news, I can say taht I watch both FOX news and ABC News so I can hear every opinion out there and folks there are very encouraging signs in these blogs that there are more citizens standing for freedom of speech and defending FOX against the White’s House assault against free speech than I expected. There are of course many which like zombies are willing to follow in line with the White House propaganda and that is very unfortunate but that is part of the freedom that we enjoy. The day the Obama Administration starts cracking down on FOX, talk radio and blogs like this one on ABC we will be in serious trouble, I can see it coming in the very near future if Obama can have it his way.
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Regardless of your feelings for or against the President, statements by the US Federal Gov to try to sway public opinion against a private enterprise are BEYOND horrifying! The Gov has absolutely NO right to do this, this is akin to censorship. Perhaps not through legislation, but through the court of public opinion – if they can get the naive public to agree with this, then they have effectively censored a private enterprise from daring to criticize them or disagree with them. There is a reason why Nazi Germany, the Taliban, China, Cuba, and any other dictatorial regime limits free speech, and that is to keep people from questioning them.
The White House’s actions and words against Fox News speak volumes. I wonder how long until it turns on ABCNews, CNN? How long until the Gov has to “take over” the media outlets so that they can control the information they want.
Posted by: Rob | October 18, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
If Fox News is not News, then I suggest NBC, CNBC ABC and CBS are nothing more than a propaganda arm for the Obama Administration and left wing radicals.
Obamas’s problem with FOX is Beck and Hannity educate folks about the People Obama surrounds himself with. Communists and Marxists are abundant in the Obama Administration. Just take a look at Van Jones and Mark Lloyd. Then you have Anita Dunn herself disclosing her deep admiration for Mau te Sung. I see no one at the WH disputing Obama’s ties with Fascism, Marxism or Communism.
The Devil Obama hates the truth and know millions are becoming wise to his agenda. He is getting nervous that a revolt will upset his plans to enslave The U.S. under a Socialist regime.
Posted by: Conserv_man | October 18, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
“After reviewing these blogs on Axelrod’s statement reagarding FOX news, I can say taht I watch both FOX news and ABC News so I can hear every opinion out there and folks there are very encouraging signs in these blogs that there are more citizens standing for freedom of speech and defending FOX against the White’s House assault against free speech than I expected. “……… Let me tell you what is wrong with this. The right tends to scream the loudest over “biased MSM.” They claim it’s wrong. It’s bad. It’s evil. Then they support a station that raises the bar. So, what you have here is not them defending freedom of speech. You have them defending their right to biased and then some while running down all of the other guys and fussing about how they need to knock it off. It’s hypocritical. These are the same people that say “I won’t listen to anything else because it’s biased.” Either biased is good or bad. Can’t have it both ways.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
FOX and MSNBC are both opinionated trash, not real news. Want real news, watch Bill Moyers Journal!
Posted by: tom | October 18, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Watch out! Like the old magician’s trick, the Obama administration is probably attacking a “News” organization because they want us to ignore something else that they are planning or doing. Hmmm … maybe a “decision” on Afghanistan troops will be made this week…and they are looking to build a feeding frenzy somewhere else. Perhaps the nuclear option for health care will be used this week.
This independent voter has 0 trust of this administration. $1.4 Trillion in deficit! 3 years of democrat spending. Our dollar is almost worthless. Hello? any Americans still use their heads to look at what else might be happening. Or are we all sheep?
Posted by: Phil | October 18, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Second, I am younger than you…..but even at 40 I remember the nightmare called Carter…he was the worse beyond a doubt up till Odummy that is. How did the American people let in someone worse than Carter, geez.
Posted by: talkhooloo | October 18, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Because they expose the corruption with this current administration and the spending spree that is out of control Fox is labeled as not being a news program…Really what is Keith O, Racheal M, Chris Matthews Ed Young considered? Please White House grow the he$$ up. Quit blasting everybody who doesn’t agree with your propaganda..
Posted by: bailedout | October 18, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
The Obama regime has made a pattern of attacking anyone who object to his agenda. From Joe the Plumber to Insurance Companies and now FOX News.
The idea is to shut up and take away our freedom of speech. Obama has Mark Lloyd (a Marxist) working in the FCC to shut down conservative talk radio.
The left wing and Obama hate to see the truth come out.
Let’s face it, it was clear from the beginning Obama was a tool for the far left and his heroes too are Communists, ,Marxists and radicals.
Posted by: Conserv_man | October 18, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
On February 14, a Florida Appeals court ruled there is absolutely nothing illegal about lying, concealing or distorting information by a major press organization. The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information. The ruling basically declares it is technically not against any law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort the news on a television broadcast.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
For those who claim FOX lies; How about facts? Come on…what specifically did they lie about?
Now if you are looking for a Liar and deception, listen to Obama’s mouth running. He appears to have forgotten other speeches he made that leaves an evidence trail. He has failed to cover his Czars records…I mean Communists and Marxists??? and even Anita is in love with Mau te Sung.
Hey Obama…where is the transparency and the congressional hearing made publicly on C-SPAN?
Axelrod, and Emanual are a disgrace and should be sent to a Gulag for reprogramming. Obama needs to go back to his inner city politics where he is appreciated.
Posted by: Conserv_man | October 18, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
I am not a fan of Fox by any means. But they are as much a news organization as MSNBC and the other cable chatter.
Posted by: scott jeffries | October 18, 2009, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
If Obama and his regime continue to show such disrespect for America, it would be no wonder if we were to see a Military Coup. If I were a military man, I would have no respect for the paper Commander in Chief!
Obama appears to be suppressing our rights and has failed to demonstrate the “opinion” of Glen Beck to be false. Marxists and Communists surround Obama. The fact his administration wants to push his agenda down our throat is evidence he is wrong for America.
Posted by: Conserv_man | October 18, 2009, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Conserv man – Like Obama is supposed to phone Beck on that hotline? You people slay me.
Posted by: Secondlook | October 18, 2009, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
I love when the government gets to decide what is news!
Posted by: Julia Kercher | October 18, 2009, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
While Obama’s henchmen are running around badmouthing everyone that gets on their way as a distraction, and Obama appears to be doing nothing, Obama’s Czars are quietly and subversively working in every community in America (remember Obama’s Community Organizing Experience) to “fundamentally change or capitalist system”. There is no question that within a very short period of time our country will be changed forever in ways none of us that have enjoyed the freedom that we have had will be able to recognize it!
Posted by: wizcat123 | October 18, 2009, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Down with Obama and the left.
Posted by: Charles Encharge | October 18, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Jee i wonder why Fox news ratings are doing so well??? Could it be because most of America is starting to share a good size chunk of it’s views towards the Obama WH
Posted by: haha! | October 19, 2009, 12:03 am 12:03 am
The Obama administration is out of control on its war with Fox. It is a shame they don’t make a decision on the war in Afganistan with such speed and venom.
The Obama administration borders on treason.
It will be interesting when they step on NBC’s toes. Hell hath no fury like a scorned lover.
You guys need to cover the Obstruction of the First Amendment. This is a huge story.
Posted by: John Brandt | October 19, 2009, 12:08 am 12:08 am
I like the anti Fox comments from people that are obsessed with the mainstream news coverage of the important issues. The constant coverage of the Baloon hoax! Who cares?
Trampling of the first amendment takes priority. Don’t you agree?
Posted by: John Brandt | October 19, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am
I watch fox and am an independent. Is the only channel I trust in this mess. the other news channels have been in bed with the white house since the campaign election and their news is partisan. While I support the president I take offense to his view that fox is partisan seeing the other channels so warped you can’t get the right story on anything. This article and comments above really have me thinking.
Posted by: Steve | October 19, 2009, 12:30 am 12:30 am
A number of liberal outlets spoke out against this strategy last week. Many said he attacked Fox to appease the “left” who are starting to complain about gays in the military, no immigration reform, no public option in the healthcare bill, Gitmo still open among others. Not to mention no strong position on AFG, no movement on Iraq, silent while Iranian protestors slaughtered on the streets, a stimulus bill that was designed to satisfy his contributors and not lower unemployment, a ridiculous debt, a ridiculous deficit, no returns from pandering to foreign countries, no progress in N. Korea or Iran, using false stories to sell healthcare, saying cops acted stupidly while admitting he didn’t know any details, suspect people in his administration, always in campaign mode, proposing to tax everything, etc. I guess if you are so worried about Fox, you’ll forget these little items.
Posted by: Gwen | October 19, 2009, 12:53 am 12:53 am
thuggery alive and well in usa. if hope and change don’t work, use abuse and thuggery.
Posted by: chicagothug | October 19, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Faux news is a joke and the whole country knows it, click!
Posted by: richard | October 19, 2009, 1:56 am 1:56 am
It is so funny to read the posts, just admit it …if you are liberal you hate Fox news and you probably hate Lou Dobbs on CNN as well. Most all of the other News channels are in the pocket of the liberals. Simple solution..you get your news from the state run media outlets and I and people like me who want to hear both sides of the issues whether I support them or not will listen to the only 2 stations that have people reporting the truth. The White House better listen up..most people are moderates ..we are not left leaning liberals. If they want to get there message across they need to do it on the news stations that the majority of the people are watching. To have the Politicians & the Government try to alienate those Stations only makes me want to watch them more. This is America people…not Cuba…
Posted by: Pink | October 19, 2009, 2:25 am 2:25 am
The credibility of this whole conversation is questioned whenever the guy they are considering part of real “news” is the former political advisor to Bill Clinton. Everyone knows that ABC/CNN/NBC/”put station here” is in the Left pocket just as Fox is in the right. Don’t try to make news out of this. cause like most of the ABC only stuff…it isn’t worth it.
Posted by: Travis | October 19, 2009, 2:36 am 2:36 am
I agree with Axelrod. Fox News has every right in the world to broadcast whatever it wants. But it’s not news. It’s like Air America, but on TV. It is a right wing, perspective editorial channel, with its prime time shows featuring Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck, all ultra-right-wing conservatives. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. But the White House is right in not treating Fox as a news organization.
Posted by: Dave | October 19, 2009, 3:24 am 3:24 am
remember when the MSM “news anchors” said “the seagulls are in awe” during the inauguration? give me a break!!! The other news outlets are so slanted it makes me want to puke! ofcourse they are watched by the same people who think “polanski didnt commit rape rape”, child molestor michael jackson is just misunderstood, its our fault 9/11 happened, teddy kennedy wasnt really a murder, etc etc….
Posted by: daniel | October 19, 2009, 3:54 am 3:54 am
Hey Mr. Axelrod why is this administration undies so musshed-up on Fox’s not in step with other blind networks in reporting your agenda, afraid that the Chicago crooks whom are currently employed in the W/H be made known? You’re time will come and it’ll be a disgrace time for our country but we will prevail by throwin all you morons out.Thank you Fox News..
Posted by: patriot | October 19, 2009, 4:36 am 4:36 am
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Let me list some other countries who clamped down on their news organizations:
China
Russia
North Korea
Vietnam
Venezuela
Cuba
Do you really want to live in any of them?
Posted by: Bob Krebs | October 19, 2009, 5:04 am 5:04 am
If FOX news and its shows are reporting false facts and reports on what the Obama adminstration, House and Senate are doing or trying to shove down our throats then Dispute the facts that they are reporting, but NOOOO, all we here is that Fox News is only a reporting something that is only for entertainment and should not be taken seriously. If the WH is thinks this, why do they keep bringing this up. Most Americans do not have a lot of time to keep up on the day to day politics and can only stomach seeing the President on TV 80x a week and FOX News has a variety of news topics more then the other WH run media. Why do you think they have the Top Ratings.
Posted by: Chuck F | October 19, 2009, 5:11 am 5:11 am
Unemployment at 9.8% and expected to go much higher, 1.4 trillion dollar deficit, 2 wars, a massive expense of a health care bill, running auto and banking industries, a stagnant economy and trying to ruin what’s left of the U.S. with cap and tax, you would think Obama and his administration wouldn’t have time to be concerned with FOX. Oh, could it be because FOX has been exposing our corrupt officials and/or the organizations they support. Unfortunately the “main” media has sacrificed their reliablilty and unbiased reporting with viewers to further the causes of this administration. The “main” media have lost a considerable amount of viewers and they won’t be back any time soon..just look at the ratings.
Posted by: bailedout2 | October 19, 2009, 6:04 am 6:04 am
A lot of normal people occasionally also watch Fox. It provides a valuable benchmark, sort of like the Black hole of Calcutta or Absolute zero or Ishtar.
Posted by: Robin | October 19, 2009, 6:53 am 6:53 am
White House representatives were on just about every Sunday show and had the same word for word message regarding FOX. People should be wondering if the White House likes these stations because they are willing to promote the White House Agenda without question and if they can’t stand FOX because FOX has the “audacity” to actually question the character of the people Obama surounds himself with and his policies.
Posted by: tiredofit | October 19, 2009, 6:58 am 6:58 am
i think fox news is pretty ridiculous, but i think this administration is even more ridiculous for engaging in this nonsensical smearing of it. this is akin to a teenaged girl circulating nasty rumors about her rival for homecoming queen. on top of that, it has to make people wonder why it is that this administration is so preoccupied with telling us who all the boogeymen are. and strangely enough, all the boogeymen just happen to be opposed to obama. according to what i can remember, everyone opposed to obama (any industry not currently controlled by obama, republicans, conservative news outlets, citizens who speak out against the administration) is evil and dangerous to america. this administration is every bit as paranoid as the last and the only real difference is that the mainstream media give immediate attention to every tantrum obama and his aides throw. you’d think the office of the president is the underdog in american politics.
Posted by: davidfrat21 | October 19, 2009, 7:03 am 7:03 am
The major news organizations have a slight liberal bias, but they at least try to be fair. Fox is _deliberately_ biased to the right. Murdoch bragged about it when they formed the network. They don’t even have a token liberal voice. (I’ll count Colmes if they ever give him his own radio show.)
Posted by: quagga | October 19, 2009, 8:03 am 8:03 am
THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!FOX is the only network that doesn’t follow the leftist party line that Obama is preaching.
Posted by: Johnny L | October 19, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Someone said……FOX is the only network that doesn’t follow the leftist party line that Obama is preaching. And before Obama? Fox has been a very consistent weather-vane for the truth (watch Fox, and it’s a safe bet the opposite is true) since 1996 -it’s in their mission statement…look it up.
Posted by: Robin | October 19, 2009, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Is Fox News a “legitimate news organization?” This question can be answered with a flip or the same question. “Is this administration legitimate?” Those who ask this question are marginalized and labeled “wingnuts”, “fringe”, “un-hinged”, tin hat hypes. The same response should be given to an administration which uses the bully pulpit of the White House to attempt to marginalize and isolate all critics and messengers which gain traction. The question is “Where are the jobs?’. This administration missed the mark by 2,000 billion dollars in estimating the deficit, and their so called” stimulus”; the absolute antidote to unemployment exceeding 8%, is an abject failure. The Federal Reserve is now the lender to America, the consumer is non-existent, and we look more and more like Japan’s lost decade. Can you say double dip? Memo to Mr.Axelrod; your “enemies list” is growing in conjunction with your policy failures and inititatives, I suggest a mirror sir to seek your culprit.
Posted by: pauldia | October 19, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am
George
a good journalist would have followed up and Asked Mr. Axelrod his view on MSNBC and it’s ties to the Obama White House. You clearly showed your bias as you left Axelrod off the hook…
Posted by: joe cassidy | October 19, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Fine, you don’t like Fox News. The bigger issue here is the Government dictating what private companies can or can not do. Where is your outrage that the White House is attempting to silence a private company?
Posted by: Deborah | October 19, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
I think this comment about Fox News indicates the administration is comfortable with the questions the other networks ask. Its like the easy teacher who does not challenge their students. ABC should learn from this that the adminisration views them as being “easy”. Challenge their numbers and inconsistencies.
Thank You
Posted by: Wib | October 19, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Fox news is associated with conservative, unbiased news. They investigated Acorn, and two czars who were fired after the truth came out. No other news organizations talked truth to power. It really doesn’t matter what the White House does, or what ABC “news’ tries to enable the White House to do. Viewership of Fox went up 20% after the White House made them an enemy. GE, NBC, MSNBC, identified as the White House Propaganda Arm, are losing revenues, losing profits, and fading away. I personally won’t buy a GE product nor buy any products advertised on what is now ironically called Main Stream Media. It is fun to watch them going down, though.
Posted by: andrew nelson | October 19, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Like them or not, much would have been swept under the WH rug if it were not for the boys at Fox News.
Fox News does not hammer hard enough on the CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER of the national debt! It is far more critical than any touted healthcare crisis.
It should be hammered until some politician steps up to the plate with a plan to reconcile the books. Not one has a plan, not one admits the grim reality of continued deficit spending.
At what point will recovery from the debt be impossible? Are we already there, and is that why no one will address it?
A vague hint at some futuristic deficit reduction just don’t cut it, the growing debt still looms.
Wake up America!
Posted by: Ed Taylor | October 19, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
The Obama administration cannot handle the truth. FOX reports the truth everyday no matter what the subject is or the persons political affiliation. As far as opinion, CNN, NBC, CBS and this network ABC all have their opinions, but I listen to them all. This way I can decide for myself. Unfortunately, MSNBC seems to be handled by the White House, more so than the others. You have to ask yourself, what is the Obama Administration afraid of? Why are they attacking a news organization, with inaccurate innuendo? Why does the White House choose to ignore all the citizens of this great country who watch FOX? Does the White House really care about them? Doesn’t seem so. You decide.
Posted by: Voter in VA | October 19, 2009, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
I unfortunately followed this link from ESPN (part of Disney, along with ABC & MTV).
I don’t see how this is a relevant topic for our President to be concerned with. There are more important issues.
I probably won’t read ABC again – nor will I start reading/watching FOX. This kind of news is depression I don’t need to focus on now. I do not enjoy hearing the bickering from both sides of the political aisle while I get ready to go to Afghanistan regardless of a change in policy. I will probably continue reading government intelligence since that most affects my life for the time being.
I will keep reading ESPN for my sports news. I think perhaps sports reporting is the last bastion of good reporting where everyone knows and accepts peoples different opinions. Sure the stakes aren’t as high.
Fortunately for America and unfortunately for some citizen-soldiers, the U.S. Military will follow the orders of the President regardless of the soldier’s or the president’s party.
I hope our sacrifice gives the President the confidence to do what is necessary, to make decisions for the benefit of the country, and to keep concern for our lives. We will defend America, its citizens, and any and all U.S. Presidents always and with our lives.
I hope the rest of you will weigh in on your local and national level elected officials to make your voices heard, so that whatever the President orders the military to do is what the people want.
Posted by: E-Style | October 19, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
If you want the truth watch FOX NEWS. ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN are allslanted to the left and are puppets of the current administration
Posted by: Michael | October 19, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Dear Michael | Oct 19, 2009 12:57:51 PM…there’s some heavy puppeteering going on over at Fox. Just not sure if the strings run from Fox to the GOP or vice versa. In any case, it is the only TV programmer that is entirely and very visibly dedicated to the bankrupt agenda of the far right that has so disrupted our great nation this past generation. Best to all you supporters of Fox – hope you change your mind about how you view the world some day – it’s beautiful out here, even though most are different from you.
Posted by: Robin | October 19, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
The White House thinks it’s in a popularity contest.
Posted by: Peter | October 19, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
The FNC has more viewers than all the alphabet soup media(abc, cbs, nbe) and Government controlled media (msnbc) put together. No one forces folks to watch The Fox News Channel they do so because the other channels refuse to ask real questions. Only FNC ask real questions and have real journalist today. There was a time that I would watch only ABC, but not today. Today these non news channels play the role of a mocking bird and repeat what the WH states…unchallenged. The first media to start asking and doing real news stories involved in digging into the backgrounds of the WH czars and advisors to bring out the backgrounds of these people will see a major increase in ratings. So…George step up!
Posted by: Rod | October 19, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
When a sitting administration starts going on a vendetta against a news station, all news media outlets should cringe. Michelle Obama said our country is “mean” and she was right, as evidenced by the above vicious comments. Obama complains that America is racist, derisive, dismissive, and divisive,and then proves it with his own actions against the citizens in the country that elected him, the first biracial president in American history. We have been accused of being cowards by Holder, and then the administration exhibits its own cowardice by attacking a news station? Are you serious? Don’t let this type of rhetoric divide us all. Freedom of press and speech is uniquely ours and we shouldn’t let any elected government “employee,” no matter who he or she is, attack our freedoms in this way. We would never have let any previous administration get away with this, so stop letting this administration get away with it! All news channels (and I’ve watched all of them) are guilty of the very things Fox News is being accused of, so get off your soap boxes and quit being bullied by our elected officials. If you don’t like what you are watching, hearing or reading, voice your opinion and then watch, listen to or read something else!
Posted by: C Feather | October 19, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Fox is not even opinion repackaged as news – it is propaganda pure and simple designed to addict information-deprived and under-educated viewers to link them into the ratings war. A profit motive designed to exploit the most easily exploitable segment of American culture – right-wing nutjobs.
Posted by: alchemistoxford | October 19, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
First this fight with Fox News and now I read that they are at odds with the chamber of congress thats some half a million businesses that they represent whos next,probably the A.M.A. cause those guys are intellegent and we cant have that.
Posted by: earl | October 19, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Obama administration would be wise to remember this, It ain’t smart to bring a knife to a gun fight! If you cut off FOX exactly what reason do they have to speak nice of you. Remember this as well, You get what you give. It makes no difference what you think of FNC, MSNBE and CNN would make a permanent diet change for FNC ratings. Perhaps Obama holds some of Murdoch’s stock!
Posted by: ibpod | October 19, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
When is Obama going to start making tough decisions and stop running around in campaign mode dogging Fox,America,Insurance companies,the wealthy,wall street,Doctors and anyone else that disagrees with him. What happened to transparency? He promised to engage all..especially those that disagreed with him! His words,not mine!
Spineless!!!
Posted by: shawn | October 19, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
The only reason people who call Fox News “fauxnews” and “worse than the national enquirer” is because they have either never actually watched Bill O’Reilly or Glen Beck (mind you he is crazy) or they are so blinded by their own beliefs that they are not willing to listen to other political points of view.
Posted by: Will | October 19, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Will wrote: “The only reason people who call Fox News “fauxnews” and “worse than the national enquirer” is because they have either never actually watched Bill O’Reilly or Glen Beck (mind you he is crazy) or they are so blinded by their own beliefs that they are not willing to listen to other political points of view.”
Bill O’Reilly recently quoted from a poll which found that more Americans trusted Fox News for accurate reporting. However, O’Reilly left out the second half of the quote which found that Fox also topped the list of LEAST trusted TV news outlets – more than a quarter of Americans surveyed didn’t trust Fox. You can’t even trust their “No Spin Zone” guru to give viewers the whole story about who’s most trusted.
And how about when Fox ran full-page ads in three major newspapers claiming that ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN missed the story of the TEA party protest in Washington. Lies don’t get much bigger or more blatant than that.
Posted by: WWW | October 19, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I watch many different news channels and can planly see that most FOX bashers never have watched much of the shows. Fox has two sides, the news side and the commentary side. Most people can dicern the difference. During the FOX News shows they are the most fair and inpartial of all the networks. A lot more fair then the other cable networks and moderately moreimpartial then the so called main stream media. Main stream has become too opionated during the story. I do not care to know the news anchors’, or stations’ opinions disgised as fact. Just tell me the facts and let me decide. Many times, I can see how the anchors slant the story to make their point. It is sad that the people of this country need to work so hard to actually find the truth. Maybe the President and his staff are against FOX because they can not control them like they do the main stream media. I can only hope that the main stream will soon wakeup to their tactics. Why are they not up in arms when the government tries to eliminate any media presence?
Posted by: plumborodev | October 19, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
It’s no surprise Fox leans to the right. It should also be NO surprise all the other networks (ABC, CNN, MSNBC, etc) either “lean” to the left, or are as far to the left as Fox is to the right. MSNBC may as well be called “Mucho Socialist News for Barrack Channel” because of the “tingly” leg comments and comparing Obama to God.
So that’s not the debate. The debate SHOULD be that the US Gov has absolutely NO right to try to sway public opinion and attack & marginalize a private enterprise!
WAKE UP PEOPLE! The same people making us scared of insurance companies, Wall Street, Mortgage companies (and soon to be energy companies & next gun companies) are the VERY SAME people who have CREATED the mess they “claim” they can fix!
THINK about it! The Gov is NOT the solution to the problems, the Gov IS THE PROBLEM!
And they should NOT be demonizing ANY private industry, for it is the businesses & innovation that have made America what it is! It has been free market capitalism & entrepreneuriship, NOT socialism!
HOW DARE the White House try to tell ME (and YOU) who we should & should not listen to? They are VASTLY overstepping their bounds here, and are treading into places that the Nazis went in trying to control the media!!
Posted by: Rob | October 19, 2009, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
This is a warning shot across the bow of all the other News agencies. So we shall see if ABC’s Jake Tapper and these other members of the White House press corp are journalists for the people, or journalists for the State.
Posted by: john | October 19, 2009, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Idiot Liberals, Weak Conservatives
Posted by: Bob | October 19, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Censorship always sounds better when you agree with the censor. As an open minded person I seriously hope that other open minded people will start to think critically about what they are supporting.
Posted by: chad | October 19, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Rupert Murdoch who actually owns Fox News also owns other tabloids, including the supermarket tabloid Star. He’s made billions on exploiting others.
Posted by: Erin | October 19, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
When is the press going to close ranks AROUND EACH OTHER and NOT the white house.
Who are the white house to say ANYTHING about the press on this level? Its NOT UP TO THEM to tell the press what IS A LEGITIMATE agency?
The story isn’t whether FOX IS legitimate its that FOX is being singled out by the white house.
I guess this generation is to young to remember Nixions war with ‘specific’ news organizations. How did that work for him? It is a perfect analogy? No, its not, but no analogy is.
Besides I suppose the white house says FOX isn’t a news org because have a ‘different take’ well so if the news agency have the ‘same take’ it would be OK?
Van Jones, ACORN those were just ‘made up’ huh?
When will the press start to defend EACH OTHER not just attack EACH OTHER as news agencies. You have a JOB TO DO REMEMBER? It’s to be CRITICAL OF THE GOVT!!!!!
Oh I guess not in this new 21st century we find ourselves in huh?
I suppose when you, George, go on FOX you are working as an arm of the GOP to huh?
Nixon would be so very proud.
Posted by: David from WI | October 19, 2009, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
It is not they are giving subjective opinion. What Fox is saying is prove them wrong. IF the White House does not start answering or come out of hiding, then Obama will and already has loss credibility.
Posted by: singleeye | October 19, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Prove Fox wrong.
Posted by: singleeye | October 19, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
If you notice, Fox is raising serious questions about the dems and reps
Posted by: singleeye | October 19, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Sing to the John Lennon song give peace a chance. Again, all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong. all WE are saying is prove Fox wrong.
Posted by: singleeye | October 19, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
If they think FOX IS wrong how can they handle N Korea, Iran, Russia, Cuba etc….
They can’t even handle being criticized by THEIR OWN CITIZENS!!!!
Wasn’t that the argument used against Palin if she can’t handle critical questions by the press was she really ready to be VP??? THE PRESS DEFENDED THEM SELVES IN THAT LINE OF REASONING.
That works both ways you knuckle heads in the press.
When your white house is based on personality and image you can’t very well defend yourselves with debate can you?
The white house can’t even handle FOX news how can they handle foreign threats.
God help us.
Posted by: David from WI | October 19, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
If the WH doesn’t “call out” a news agency then we can assume the WH owns them!
I don’t get Fox News (they haven’t made it to free-to-air satellite yet), but the sound reporting it does gets out even if it’s by the others trying to marginalize Fox.
There is just a number of important news flashes that the others only touched because they had to after Fox opened the door!
Did Nixon or the media (and the public) win when Nixon took on the media? All the WH has done is increase Fox News ratings which already eclipse the competition!
Posted by: Ed Taylor | October 19, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
has Obama gone mad, he’s dissing more than half of America. What on earth is he doing? This is utterly unbelievable, this man is off his trolley. Keep thsi Obama and you will be impeached and you might end up back to teh south side of chicago with your old acorn job!
Posted by: alamb | October 19, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Fox News=Fake News. It is amazing to see how easy it is to forget the last 8 years. I think it will take us at least 80 years to fix the mess, if not longer. Trusting big business has made the rich get richer and it has put the squeeze on the middle class, and now we are all paying for it. You can respond to this message any way you want, but you can’t deny that this MESS that we are in started 8 years ago. Anything that you say to refute this means that you have been living in a hole with no clue…probably because you only watch Faux News.
Posted by: Steve | October 19, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
This whole story is a joke !! It shows the White house is immature and childish
boohoo they won’t talk to fox so what! I quit watching ABC NBC CBS and CNN a long time ago they are to much to the left and this country is not left wing the are on the right or the middle
And poor baby they don’t agree with him !!
!!!
he behaves like a spoiled rotten brad , he must stamp his feet too
Posted by: M S Long Beach | October 19, 2009, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
George, wake up. I have no dog in the fight but your left-leaning past is showing. You lob softballs to Axelrod so he can join Dunn in saying Fox is not a news station but you could have balanced it by asking your guest if he agrees that MSNBC is farther left of center than Fox is right. At times like this you’re using your fine show as nothing more than a mouthpiece for one political party.
Posted by: Gordon | October 20, 2009, 12:32 am 12:32 am
I seemed to have heard all this before. The Obama White House = The Nixon White House. Forget about truth and honesty. Enemies list, Attack the media, Smear Campaigns. Pointing fingers at different groups. Yes, if you are old enough you have seen this show before.
Posted by: CaigGap | October 20, 2009, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Steve, I’ll respond, even though this is not what the story is about, but it sure sounds like you need a history lesson. The “mess” we are in actually started about 70-some odd years ago, w/ the “New Deal” and socialist-style programs. Then things started getting REALLY bad during Carter’s administration (remember him? Remember how bad the economy was under him? Remember how he wanted low-income people to own houses?).
Things haven’t gotten any better, so couple those SOCIALIST programs with deregulation of certain corporations (who then turned around to let GREED ruin them), and THAT is why we are in the shape we are in today.
BOTH parties are to blame for this, and if you cannot see that then you are blinded by either naivety or stupidity. Oh, and Obama is just adding to what will be yet ANOTHER fall (perhaps during your children’s adulthood, perhaps their children’s adulthood – who knows). But, I do know you cannot spend money you don’t have.
Did you know that in less than a year, Obama has spent MORE money than Bush had spent on the ENTIRE war in Iraq? But, I guess that’s “OK” because Obama is your “messiah.”
Just wait until China wants to collect on the debt we owe them. Just wait until this “new Deal” offered by Obama bursts…
Posted by: Rob | October 20, 2009, 9:10 am 9:10 am
I’ve been watching Fox News every night for the past several years precisely because I got tired of the bias of CNN, NBC, PBS, etc.
I have a question for Mr. Axelrod and Ms. Dunn: Are we now living in a dictatorship? Are we under Mao’s rule where anyone deferring from the government is to be shut down?
I certainly hope not!
Posted by: AGTR | October 20, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Fox News is not really a news organization…ergo….
Obama is not really a president…
Makes sense to me!
Posted by: Cat | October 20, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
You know what is amazing? It is the videos, the quotes, the films of these czars, the press advisors and the president himself. The fact is that Fox News plays the videos, shows the quotes and ALWAYS proves where they come from. It is amazing that even after all that, people still do not believe.
If you saw a video of one of the czars saying he believes in socialism would you believe it? or would you says that Fox News made it up? I really want to know. Because I have been watching Beck and he proves by showing videos that these people are out to socialize the US. When will you wake up? Obama is surrounding himself with socialist and puts down everyone that disagrees with him and his policies.
I only ask that you watch one show of Beck and then come back here and let me know what he has wrong. If you consider yourself a fair and open minded person, watch one show of Beck. Nightly at 5: pm eastern time.
Please it is driving me crazy that this is going on under our noses and we are not doing anything about it.
Posted by: David | October 20, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
ABC should join ALL other networks, news or otherwise, in loudly denouncing the strong-arm tactics of this administration. Because it won’t be long before it becomes a case of ‘They came for Fox News, but I wasn’t part of Fox News so I said nothing’……….
Posted by: RIChris | October 20, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
you know what funny, this sound like elementary school pointing fingers. Dems or Republicans, they new orgizations better stand together for free speech, the shoe can always be on the other foot! Does the White House not have better things to do!
Posted by: S Bolt | October 20, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
The President would turn his back on a rabid dog at his own peril. Why would a rabid FOX be any different? Parry and thrust, Mr. President, parry and thrust.
Posted by: Les Izmor | October 20, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
From the very early days of this administration.I said that this president sees himself as a black victim and that he will go all out to correct the supposed evils. He is young and will learn that the solution to one problem will result in another that might be worse. Go slow.
Posted by: Peter Mann | October 20, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
To those of you whose posts seem to agree with Axelrod, have you even considered how DANGEROUS this thought line is? Imagine your response if someone in the Bush admin said this about CBS or NPR. Wouldn’t you find it appalling and increase your determination to defeat that administration? I find it doubly shocking that most of the media is silent on this story. Silence must mean agreement to them. I shudder at the thought of what is coming. What’s next, a government OK to destroy Fox property and hurt their employees? Will you be OK with that, too?
Posted by: Ragnar | October 20, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
The WH has some concern ?
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: Mike | October 20, 2009, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Posted by: Mike | October 20, 2009, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
The Obama Administration are not dummies. They realize they have a very short window to achieve their political agenda. If the mainstream American public find out how Obama’s agenda is going to effect them, they will activate politically against his policies.
Fox news is the only media network standing in their way which shortens that political window. They know FOX must be neutralized, even at the risk of discontent. Unpopular politics always work best in the shadows of spin.
What the other news networks must remember is: what goes around comes around. They will be next. If they lose the ball on media censorship when the policy is in their favor, the day will come when the political window will close on them too.
Freedom of speech, press, and opinion to speak out, for or against, our government has been the only true check and balance of the US Constitution. Don’t allow political bullies take it from you.
Posted by: ljocampo | October 21, 2009, 4:12 am 4:12 am
Glenn Beck has an OPINION Show and is making monkey’s out of all the hacks in the White House. It’s hilarious to watch and everytime old David or Ballerina Boy flaps their pieholes, Glenns ratings shoot up even higher. Love the RED PHONE, Glenn. Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Sunnyr | October 21, 2009, 4:58 am 4:58 am
Rupert Murdoch who actually owns Fox News also owns other tabloids, including the supermarket tabloid Star. He’s made billions on exploiting others.
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I don’t know about the STAR but I do know he also owns the Wall Street Journal and other news publications and would like to buy the NY Times. I say GO FOR IT, Mr. Murdock. Turn the Slimes into the Times again. It will drive the liberal twits nuts!
Posted by: Sunnyr | October 21, 2009, 5:07 am 5:07 am
Independent of your political persuasions, you are surely outraged at the recent President Obama Administration attacks on Fox News. These attacks were, as some would say, divisive, even derisive. The administration position is clearly meant to control the media, not only Fox, but all news media; dissuade journalists from expressing dissenting opinions, and/or dissuade their sponsors. This great country cannot tolerate a government attempting to control media, and it is the duty of every journalist to severely challenge our government’s interference in this fundamental freedom of speech. A journalist who leaves this kind of attack unchallenged ultimately risks their own rights in “reporting”, and ultimately our liberty.
Posted by: Jim O | October 21, 2009, 7:12 am 7:12 am
Give me a break… There is not 1 media outlet in the US that isn’t biased politically. Mr. Axelrod could actually be honest and admit that MSNBC, CNN, ABC & CBS are some of the largest contributors financially for the Democratic Party. Plain & simple, we Americans get watered down news everyday and the propaganda we have to swollow isn’t provided by just 1 media outlet, they’re all involved equally!!
Posted by: Pete | October 21, 2009, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Fox News hammers the Government for their bad decisions be it GOP run or Dem run. We are Canadian/English and firmly believe that Fox News is more fair than the others combined.
Really? Can any of you righties Name ONE TIME FOX CALLED OUT BUSH OR THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS FOR ANYTHING? Thats right, it was zero, none and zilch. You Fox nuts were salivating over G.W.’s every move, and if Anyone voiced the slightest concern over Iraq, Katrina, wireless wiretaps ect they were labeled terrorists.
Posted by: repubswrong | October 22, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Thank you to ABC News for standing up to the this Administration for trying to control the news media, they attack Fox News, who will be next?? A free press is essential to our freedom — I have more respect for all the major news networks since finding out that they are defending the position of all networks to control their own programing without censorship.
Posted by: Judy | October 22, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I agree with you Rahm.
Posted by: Judy | October 22, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
When the President of the USA’s obvious lack of experience is pulled out into the public eye with his rediculous cabinet choices and “pay back” positions by a news network, he thinks his office gives him super powers over public opinion. Little did the country realize until now that they elected a talking head that is driving the country into the Stone Age. Fox did the homework and the public listened. They had the highest rated shows way before this and Obama have built them into the super power of news now. Anybody notice: Fox rating are through the roof and Obama is falling fast in opinion polls passing 45% as we speak. Actions speak ;ouder than words and Obama has none. Why crack on Fox for exposing this guy? Polls are the real numbers. Not left wing news organizations and their followers. Look at these postingd for Obama loving ABS. Many supporting Fox or at least defending. Talk is cheap and only one side will be laughing in 3 yrs. Enjoy your ride.
Posted by: Eom | October 23, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
DUH !!! Anyone with half a brain knows why it’s called Faux News, The Fox Opinion Channel, Fix News, ETC, ETC…. Since their inception, they’re goal is to provide their slant in news, AND opinion… they minimize and omit the truth, hype the right wing rhetoric, exagerate in advantagious ways and on and on… That Fox news is not news, is NOT news…
Posted by: duck | October 24, 2009, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
If a conservative doesn’t like a certain news channel, he switches the station.
Liberals demand that those they don’t agree with be shut down.
Posted by: Troy Goecekrman | October 25, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
As for Fox News I can only add “it’s news to me” because I hear news on Fox that either no one else is reporting, or they pick it up after Fox.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | November 5, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Yeah, that’s right. Fox News represents a point of view alright, a conservative point of view. The White House under Obama represents a point of view too, a radically liberal one. That’s why Obama’s focusing more presidential energy when not vacationing or supporting some sports star or team (for those not watching ESPN) on pushing liberal agendas like abortion hidden in the health care bills or homosexual marriage or embryonic stem cell research, as opposed to actually fixing the economy – classic bait & switch.
The big reason Obama hates Fox News is they are a conservative news station. NBC is a liberal news station but they’re on the same side as Obama with the same radical POV, so the White House is all rah-rah for them. Cut the hypocrisy, every station, every person, every news anchor has a POV. To be unbiased or at least close to it isn’t silencing points of view but trying to display all views equally. Fox News for all its POV-pushing at least isn’t afraid to bring liberals on the shows and air out the differences then and there. Obama on the other hand is trying to silence the one news station unafraid to call him out on stuff like ACORN – which the other news stations did not and should have picked up on. Yeah, sometimes Fox throws junk out there, but other times they report the criticism of liberal politics that is accurate and otherwise wouldn’t get reported. Obama won his first election not by defeating his political opponents but challenging their petition signatures after the filing deadline with a team of lawyers. The guy isn’t about free speech or fair play, just winning. People should’ve figured this out about our lawyer in chief.
Posted by: Joshua Zambrano | January 27, 2010, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm